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#078 - New Roadster Logo? E-Bike Epidemic, Lexus TZ, Rivian Pickup, Slept on Wagons, & More

#078 - New Roadster Logo? E-Bike Epidemic, Lexus TZ, Rivian Pickup, Slept on Wagons, & More

Clutch Culture Podcast May 11, 2026 67 min
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About this episode

Roadster talk kicks things off with a Tesla trademark for a new Roadster logo, which the hosts read as a possible reveal. The conversation then widens: e-bike sidewalk incidents, rising fuel costs, and why automakers chase “wow factor” screens and lighting. Used-car “rabbit holes” get real with S-Class math, PPI advice, and fleet/repo dynamics shaping inventory and prices. Later, the hosts speculate on Lexus TZ EV claims, debate Alcantara and branding, and discuss California ticketing driverless cars.

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Car

Mercedes-Benz C-Class

"You're talking about the C-Class video, right? Yes. That was all I noticed because of the amount of people that were like, honestly, that's why I would buy it."

The Mercedes-Benz C-Class is a popular Mercedes luxury car. Here it’s mentioned as an example of how some buyers are drawn to the car’s screens and flashy interior features.

Car

Lexus GX460

"You know, I've been driving the GX460 around a little bit more than usual this week. It's a great vehicle. The vibrating, the dinging,"

The Lexus GX460 is a luxury SUV that feels more like a traditional truck. The host is saying it can still be annoying with alerts and vibrations, even though it’s a great vehicle.

Car

Lexus LX

"Now, I want to stick on this topic in the pocket because I want to talk about your LX, my Raptor, but also since we're talking Mercedes,"

The Lexus LX is a big luxury SUV with a more traditional, rugged foundation. In this part of the show, it’s referenced as one of the vehicles the host is using while talking about modern car features.

Car

F-150 Raptor

"...e pocket because I want to talk about your LX, my Raptor, but also since we're talking Mercedes, I don't k..."

The F-150 is a large pickup truck. It’s popular because it can be used for work and everyday tasks. The podcast mentions it while comparing it to other vehicles.

Term

mileage

"under 100,000 miles, like 70,000 miles... every 10,000 miles on one of those older big bodies, you're sort of getting a different bill."

Mileage is how many miles the car has been driven. They’re saying that higher miles often means more wear and more expensive problems later.

Car

Mercedes-Benz S class

"As soon as I saw it was like 74,000 miles and like $22,000. I was like, wait a minute. Here's the problem. It's 22,000 that's going to turn into 40. Okay. So you got to look at it properly."

This is Mercedes-Benz’s big luxury sedan. They’re saying that even if the sticker price looks low, an older high-mileage one can cost a lot more after repairs.

Term

depreciated

"There's nothing like a depreciated S class big body."

Depreciation means the car’s value goes down as it gets older. They’re saying that even if the price drops, fixing an older car can still be expensive.

Car

Raptor

"You're going to have a Raptor and an S class and that VW is gone."

“Raptor” is a Ford off-road pickup. They’re basically comparing a truck rabbit hole to the luxury-sedan rabbit hole.

Car

Volkswagen Rabbit

"...at. I mean, I'm going to send you right down that rabbit hole. You're going to have a Raptor and an S clas..."

The Volkswagen Rabbit is a smaller car made by Volkswagen. In the episode, it’s mentioned as part of a phrase about getting pulled into a topic. It’s not being discussed as a specific performance or tech feature there.

Term

MSRP

"worth it when you do the math from the purchase actual MSRP to what you actually bought?"

MSRP is the “list price” the manufacturer puts on a new car. They’re comparing that to what they actually paid to judge if the deal makes sense.

Car

Nissan Leaf

"Dammit. Nissan Leafs, $2,000. That's right. Nissan Leafs."

The Nissan Leaf is an electric car. They brought it up because they were talking about EVs and what you can find for low money.

Car

Jeep Wrangler

"Like the GTI is kind of the kid, you know, Wrangler,"

The Wrangler is Jeep’s off-road SUV. They’re name-checking it as part of the kind of cars people get excited about.

Car

Volkswagen Gti

"we've talked about this in the wagons. Like the GTI is kind of the kid, you know, Wrangler,"

GTI usually means a Volkswagen Golf GTI, a sporty hatchback. They’re just using it as an example of a fun, everyday car.

Car

Ford Raptor

"because a Raptor with the half door is really hard for pickup lines and stuff like that to just get them in and we got to go. So I rarely take the Raptor."

The Ford Raptor is a special version of Ford’s pickup truck made for off-road driving. Here, the host mentions it because the “half door” makes it awkward for getting in and out.

Car

Honda Civic

"So then I started looking at wagons, four doors and you can get an SI Honda Civic. Let's just start there. I was like, let's think practical, Rob. Let's think practical. Sure you will. Manual, four door Honda Civic."

The Honda Civic is a very common, practical car model. The host is saying they were considering a Civic (with a manual) because it’s more practical than the bigger, more expensive options.

Car

BMW 7 Series

"I went down in year, I went up an engine and I'm like, well now there's, I got M8 options, I got seven series, I got S-classes."

The BMW 7 Series is BMW’s large luxury sedan. The host mentions it as a more expensive, bigger-car option that shows up when they’re looking around.

Concept

sponsored links

"I went down in year, I went up an engine and I'm like, well now there's, I got M8 options, I got seven series, I got S-classes. And dude, CarGurus saw you coming. I just started putting all these links up like, hey, look at this sponsored link. Exactly. When it didn't filter by price, I was like, wait a minute. And then I was like, oh, they're all sponsored."

Sponsored links are ads that look like regular search results. The host is saying the site was showing paid listings tailored to their interests, not just the best or cheapest options.

Car

Chevrolet Corvette

"... I think I've driven them four doors, basically a Corvette with four doors. They're also still very expensiv..."

The Corvette is a sports car made by Chevrolet. It’s built to feel fast and fun to drive, and people often talk about it because it can be pricey. In the episode, it’s used as a reference point when comparing other cars.

Car

Chevy SS

"And dude, CarGurus saw you coming. I just started putting all these links up like, hey, look at this sponsored link. Exactly. When it didn't filter by price, I was like, wait a minute. And then I was like, oh, they're all sponsored. It's just giving me what it knows I want to see. It's heading you right down the road. Bro. And then what's crazy too, the Chevy SS's, which are great cars, I think I've driven them four doors, basically a Corvette with four doors. They're also still very expensive."

The Chevrolet SS is a performance sedan—basically a “sporty” four-door. The host likes it, but says the good examples cost a lot.

Car

Chevrolet Camaro

"And people got so defensive like, well, Ford or Camaro, you know, it's like that, you know, that's exactly what I feel like they sound like when they're typing in the comments to it. Oh, the Camaro name."

The Camaro is Chevrolet’s famous sporty muscle-car. The host is talking about online arguments over whether a certain sedan should be tied to the Camaro brand.

Car

E90 M3 manual

"E 90 M three manual 43,000 miles exact year. My exact car went to auction finished at 43 grand."

This is a BMW M3 from the E90 generation, and “manual” means it has a stick shift. The host is saying these cars can be a better deal than people expect, especially when they’re low-mileage and properly optioned.

Concept

platform that's forgotten

"I've been telling all of you guys this is the platform that's forgotten. And I would, I would start to think about these because they're gonna"

The host is talking about a type of car that people don’t pay much attention to, even if it’s a good one. When everyone focuses on the “popular” options, the less-talked-about ones can stay cheaper for a while.

Concept

analog-ish

"Is it a $99,000 experience? No, but I will say you're going to see people who are looking for analog ish, right? Because you do have infotainment in that now it's very dated"

“Analog-ish” refers to cars that feel more mechanical and less computer-driven—think simpler controls and fewer modern infotainment features. In this segment, the host contrasts that preference with the fact that the car still has infotainment, but it’s “very dated,” which can make the experience feel less modern and more old-school.

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once a space gets crowded

"that you got to realize that once a space gets crowded, you know, it's going to be tough to be in that space."

This is basically a buying-market idea: if lots of people start wanting the same niche car, it gets more competitive and prices tend to rise. The host is saying that’s why timing and awareness matter.

Car

BMW E46 wagon

"And then I ended up on an O five. What is it E 46 wagon? Nice, right? I'm like, man, those are really cool. But there's you can't find those at all."

This is a BMW 3 Series wagon from the E46 generation. Wagons like this are rarer than the sedans, so good ones can be tough to find. The host is saying that some modification choices can ruin the overall look.

Term

clapped out

"There might be six in the country and they're all super clapped out. Yeah, clapped out is the right word."

“Clapped out” is slang for a car that’s in rough shape—worn out and not taken care of. The host is saying the wagons they can find are usually like that.

Term

mods

"it's just has all the wrong, all the wrong things, all the mods are assaulting your eyes every time. Yeah, it's just like, I see what you were trying to do."

“Mods” are changes people make to a car after buying it—often to change how it looks or drives. In this episode, they’re talking about things like wheels and lowering springs.

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wheels

"He priced it out and he goes, I'll get these wheels. I'll do these lowering springs. I'll do the, and you go, just all kind of didn't work"

Wheels are the rims and tires setup on the car. Changing them can be mostly for looks, but the size and fitment matter for how the car looks and drives.

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lowering springs

"He priced it out and he goes, I'll get these wheels. I'll do these lowering springs. I'll do the, and you go, just all kind of didn't work"

Lowering springs are parts that make the car sit lower to the ground. People do it for looks, but it can also change how the car rides and how well everything fits together.

Concept

upgrade and you go to a different platform

"Then you start thinking about your garage space and you start thinking, well, do I really like it? And then you just, you just upgrade and you go to a different platform."

This is basically saying they stop modifying one car and switch to a different kind of car. It’s like changing to a whole new “base” instead of just adding upgrades to the same one.

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tune

"He's always doing something. I think he's done like two or three BMW wagons where he takes like a base wagon and he's like, well, then we're going to do this tune. Then I'm going to rip the interior out..."

A “tune” is when someone updates the car’s computer settings. The goal is usually to make the car feel stronger or drive better.

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rip the interior out

"where he takes like a base wagon and he's like, well, then we're going to do this tune. Then I'm going to rip the interior out and I go, I feel you. I love it. I feel you."

This means removing parts of the inside of the car. People do it to customize the space or make the car more practical for their needs.

Car

2018 Jaguar XF Sport Break

"Dude, I don't even think we've talked about this one time. The 2018 Jaguar XF Sport Break. Bud. I love these things."

This is a Jaguar XF wagon from 2018. It’s the kind of car that gives you more space than a normal sedan, and the hosts are saying it’s a good used buy if you can find one at the right price.

Term

miles

"2018 with about 40, 50,000 miles? 50 30 to 40. Whoa. Yeah. If you can find one for 30, you got to pull really damn it."

“Miles” just means how far the car has been driven. More miles usually means more wear, so it can affect what you’ll need to fix or maintain later.

Concept

failing forward

"One thing you could say about Jaguar is, as they were failing, all the shit looked good. They failed forward. They're a prime example of failing forward."

“Failing forward” is a saying that means you keep trying new things even when things aren’t going well. Here, the host is basically saying Jaguar kept making good-looking cars even while the company was struggling.

Term

Apple CarPlay

"No, no, exactly. No, you can upgrade to Apple CarPlay. So I ended up, I would, and I'm going to in the Raptor, but I ended up on this and then the Volvo, which I forgot."

Apple CarPlay is a way to connect your iPhone to a car. It shows certain apps on the car’s screen so you can use navigation and music more easily.

Car

Volvo V60

"So I ended up, I would, and I'm going to in the Raptor, but I ended up on this and then the Volvo, which I forgot. I think it's the V 60 or 50."

The Volvo V60 is a Volvo wagon. It’s the kind of car people pick when they want space and practicality, not just speed.

Car

Jaguar XF Sportbrake

"If you're listening and you're as, as jazzed up about something like an XF sport brake as I am, and obviously Nick is, let us know if you decide to start searching for those."

The Jaguar XF Sportbrake is a Jaguar wagon. It’s basically the XF but with extra cargo space, and people buy it for a mix of style and everyday usability.

Term

300 mile range

"So the 20 27 Lexus TZ touts three rows. There you go. 300 mile range and v 10 sounds was the best part there."

“Range” means how far the car can go before it needs more power. They’re saying 300 miles doesn’t feel like enough for what they think the car will cost.

Car

TX Lexus Tz

"...All right. I haven't pulled up here. So the 20 27 Lexus TZ touts three rows. There you go. 300 mile range an..."

The TX is a Lexus SUV that’s described as having three rows of seats. The podcast also mentions a range of about 300 miles, which is how far it can go before needing more power. It’s included because it’s a new or upcoming option people want to understand.

Brand

Range Rover

"But Yeah, it's not, you know, all the way across the whole car. Look, man, they got to do it. We're and so they went and copied the Range Rover back in as well."

They bring up Range Rover because they think Lexus is taking design cues from it. The point is that SUV styling trends often spread from one brand to another.

Term

V10 sounds

"Okay, this isn't this isn't the V10 sounds are offensive right off the get without even hearing them."

A V10 is a type of engine with ten cylinders. People often love the way a V10 sounds, and the hosts are saying the sound they’re expecting already bothers them.

Term

Alcantara

"Also, the fact that looks like Alcantara is around your center console stack here. Oh, that's going to look so dirty. And I mean, there's Alcantara everywhere."

Alcantara is a soft, suede-like fabric used inside cars to make things feel more upscale. The hosts say it can look dirty or wear out, especially where people touch it a lot.

Brand

NEOS

"How did you not or have you considered the NEOS as a fleet vehicle for your fleet? Well, I we brought this up. I said that NEOS saw huge spike like 20% I think you said and that and they're they're really, you know, going after fleet sales."

They’re talking about NEOS as a company selling vehicles to fleets (like businesses or organizations). They think NEOS’s US sales have been hurt by price and import-related costs, but fleet demand is rising.

Concept

fleet sales

"NEOS saw huge spike like 20% I think you said and that and they're they're really, you know, going after fleet sales. Yeah, I think is is interesting. I have not seen them in a fleet."

Fleet sales means selling lots of cars or trucks to organizations that use them for work. Instead of one person buying a car, a company buys many at once.

Concept

tariff situation

"And they they kind of took the brands like that took a very heavy hit with this whole tariff situation."

A tariff is a tax on imported products. If cars cost more to import, the brand may have to raise prices or sell fewer vehicles.

Car

Dodge Durango

"Yeah, right. And I still believe if they get in, you know, as things clear up... Yeah, we talked about Durango seeing big big spikes, because they kind of went back to a no nonsense. Here's some buttons. Here's the V8. Here's the basics."

They’re bringing up the Dodge Durango as an example of a vehicle that got more attention after it was marketed in a simpler way. They also mention the V8, implying buyers responded to that straightforward setup.

Brand

Porsche

"And but then when you talk about Lexus Porsche, there's another article about the Macan and no more, you know, internal combustion engines."

Porsche is one of the brands mentioned while the hosts talk about cars moving away from gas engines. It’s part of the bigger shift toward newer powertrains.

Car

Porsche Macan

"there's another article about the Macan and no more, you know, internal combustion engines. Do you think people would trickle? I don't want to say down because that's kind of disrespectful,"

They mention the Porsche Macan while talking about the end of gas engines. Since the Macan is a popular Porsche model, it’s a big deal when its powertrain direction changes.

Concept

internal combustion engines

"there's another article about the Macan and no more, you know, internal combustion engines. Do you think people would trickle?"

Internal combustion engines are the traditional gas or diesel engines that burn fuel to make power. The hosts are talking about moving away from them, which points toward electric or hybrid cars.

Car

Porsche Cayenne

"...uyer. I think you're going to see somebody in the Cayenne, you know, you're talking about a $200,000 SUV no..."

The Porsche Cayenne is a luxury SUV. It’s built to drive more like a performance vehicle than a typical family SUV. The podcast mentions it because it can cost around the $200,000 range depending on the version.

Concept

used market

"and so if you start seeing those come out, you know, on the used market that because some fleets, and this is I want everybody to understand, there's two ways to"

The used market is where you buy cars that have already been owned. The host is saying fleet companies often replace vehicles on a schedule, so those cars can show up for sale later.

Concept

pre-purchase inspection (PPI)

"But the way we talk about PPIs and inspections and all that, wouldn't we like cover our bases? But I always check it. Like, don't show it to me. I don't want to see fleets or rentals. ... I'll just have a PPI done."

A pre-purchase inspection is when a trusted mechanic checks a used car before you buy it. The goal is to find problems you might not notice, especially on cars that may have been used hard.

Car

Nissan Rogue

"if I was looking in that, you know, a Nissan rogue, or yeah, a rogue or like, let's just say back in the day and escape, you know, or something like that."

The Nissan Rogue is a popular crossover SUV. It’s also the kind of car you’ll often see as a rental or fleet vehicle, so buyers may want extra checks before purchasing.

Term

transmission issues

"Yeah, I'm sorry if you have one. Yeah. And everyone that I know that has had one transmission issues always, always never fails. They've had 100%."

A transmission is what helps the car change gears. “Transmission issues” means the car may shift poorly or not shift correctly, which can be expensive to fix.

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Car

Rivian R2

"All right, Rivians R2 SUV could spawn more variants, including a surprise pickup truck. How does that make you feel?"

The Rivian R2 is an upcoming electric SUV from Rivian. They’re talking about Rivian possibly adding more versions, including a pickup, which would expand what kinds of EVs the brand offers.

Term

EV

"Yeah, right? Especially for an EV."

EV just means electric vehicle. It’s a car that runs on electricity from a battery instead of gas.

Topic

best selling cars by state

"There's a curveball here. There's an article from Motor Trend, best selling cars by state."

They’re talking about which cars sell the most in different states. Then they play a guessing game about Nevada and Texas.

Car

Ford F150

"We'll just go one or 21 and two. F-150. No, that's Texas, bro. Come on. What are you talking about?"

The Ford F-150 is a large pickup truck. People choose it for hauling, towing, and general everyday use. The episode mentions it because it’s a very common truck model.

Car

Tesla Model 3

"We have a lot of Teslas. You want to you want to guess which model like specifically? Model three."

The Tesla Model 3 is an electric car from Tesla. The hosts are guessing it’s the most popular model in Nevada.

Car

Tesla Model Y

"Model three. That was second. Model Y is actually one. Yeah, makes sense."

The Tesla Model Y is an electric SUV. It runs on electricity instead of gas, and it’s made for regular daily driving. The podcast mentions it as part of a comparison between Tesla models.

Car

Plymouth Fury

"...ching him in the circuit in Houston, Cage Combat, Fury, all those, LFA. So shout out to him."

The Plymouth Fury is an older American muscle car. It’s the kind of car people talk about when they’re discussing classic performance vehicles. In the episode, it’s brought up as part of a group of notable cars.

Car

BMW i3

"...n, yeah, BMW, you got more EVs. You know, the BMW i3. That's all."

The BMW i3 is an electric car made by BMW. It’s meant for everyday driving, especially in city settings. The podcast mentions it when talking about BMW’s electric vehicles.

Concept

used car market inventory

"And so now when people talk about the used car market and they go, we have this lack of inventory, there has to be this healthy combination of"

It just means how many used cars are sitting in the market to be bought. If there aren’t many cars available, sellers can usually charge more.

Concept

repossession

"repossessions are not healthy for the person obviously having their car repossessed, but they're healthy to put inventory back on the market."

Repossession is when the bank takes the car back because the payments stopped. Those cars can then get sold again, which adds more used cars to the market.

Concept

leasing

"Then you look at leasing over the last six years. It was basically at a very, very low rate because car companies didn't need to offer lease deals."

Leasing is like renting a car for a few years with an option at the end. When leases end, those cars often come back and become used cars for sale.

Concept

lease trade ends

"So you don't have lease trade ends at a high level."

This is about when a lease is up and the car has to be turned back in. Those returned cars can then show up for sale as used vehicles.

Concept

used-car pricing driven by lender behavior

"So you're looking at what dealers are doing on used cars, not realizing, they're only empowered to do those things and have those prices because the banks and the finance arms aren't repo in the cars."

The host is basically saying used-car prices aren’t just about supply and demand—they’re also affected by what banks do with delinquent loans. If banks aren’t taking cars back, fewer cars end up available, which can keep prices up.

Term

finance arms

"they're only empowered to do those things and have those prices because the banks and the finance arms aren't repo in the cars."

“Finance arms” refers to a car company’s or lender’s captive financing division that provides auto loans and leases. In the segment, the host contrasts these lenders with dealers, claiming the financing side’s behavior (not repossessing) is what enables dealer pricing and inventory dynamics.

Term

renegotiate what you owe

"Not what could you pay towards the loan? But like, hey, let's renegotiate what you owe on the car. This is unheard of."

This means the bank tries to change the loan terms so you owe less or pay differently, instead of taking the car back. The host is saying that kind of offer is surprising in this situation.

Concept

cars up for repo

"cars up for repo were nuts then. Yeah, it's true."

“Repo” means the car gets taken back because payments weren’t made. The hosts are saying that, at that time, repossessed cars were causing a lot of chaos or excitement.

Concept

trademark

"So Tesla finally, or they filed a trademark for the new Roadster logo, maybe meaning a new reveal being around here."

A trademark is legal protection for a company’s brand name or logo. If a company files one, it usually means they plan to use that logo in the near future.

Car

Tesla Roadster

"So Tesla finally, or they filed a trademark for the new Roadster logo, maybe meaning a new reveal being around here. ... I think the original Roadster, which I've driven quite a bit, a hell of a lot of fun."

The Roadster is Tesla’s electric sports-car name. They’re talking about Tesla possibly updating the Roadster branding and hinting at something new, based on the logo trademark.

Concept

EV space

"You know, Tesla, to me, hey man, you're in the EV space."

“EV space” just means the world of electric cars—who makes them and how they’re positioned. The host is using it to talk about whether a company is truly EV-focused.

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