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120 - Why is Zeekr booming? Plus Government incentive clarity at last

120 - Why is Zeekr booming? Plus Government incentive clarity at last

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About this episode

Zeekr’s rapid rise is traced to real-world visibility, online buzz, and a feedback loop that feeds R&D—plus pricing discipline that protects residual values. Alongside the Zeekr/Zika chat, callers share what actually drives their decisions: LFP vs NMC preferences, family space, and how home charging (and AR HUDs) changes day-to-day confidence. The hosts also dig into Australian incentive clarity and charging infrastructure—questioning whether rural rollout matches how fast EV sales are growing.

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LFP battery

"And then mostly to balance the LFP battery. So they introduced that new golden battery, I think it's called, and then we will drive model."

An LFP battery is a type of EV battery chemistry. People like it because it tends to be safer and can last a long time compared with some other battery types.

Car

Mini Cooper hatchback five door

"So I had a Mini Cooper hatchback five door petrol car for, I think just almost 11 years, actually."

They’re referencing their previous car: a Mini Cooper five-door hatchback. It’s just background on what they drove before switching to an electric car.

Concept

no vetted lease with the no fringe benefit tax

"And then, of course, the no vetted lease with the no fringe benefit tax that, you know, I could do through no vetted leasing. It was basically when I did the calculations going to end up roughly the same cost of running an EV."

They’re talking about a leasing arrangement where the tax treatment is better—specifically, it avoids a tax called fringe benefit tax. That can make the EV cheaper to run month-to-month compared with other options.

Car

Dodge Journey

"... us a little run through of the kind of cars, the journey? Where did you start and how did you get to where..."

The Dodge Journey is a family car type that’s meant to fit passengers and luggage. In the podcast, it’s brought up because they’re talking about where someone started with cars and how they progressed over time. It’s part of the speaker’s personal car story.

Concept

ADAs system

"But also something with decent software and good ADAS system and something I could take on the occasional three to four hour trip down the Canberra or just out of Sydney."

ADAS are driver-assist features that help you drive—things like keeping in your lane or helping avoid crashes. They can make commuting and road trips less tiring.

Term

NMC

"And as I said, the LFP was sort of a preference. Although I think I could have dealt with NMC."

NMC is another kind of EV battery chemistry. It’s commonly used when manufacturers want more energy (often meaning more range), but it can age and charge differently than LFP.

Car

Tesla Model 3

"So I've been over in the US on work a few times and taken a Tesla for a weekend, Model 3 and Model Y. And that was kind of my benchmark, I guess for software and technology."

The Tesla Model 3 is a popular compact electric car. Here it’s mentioned as a reference point—like a baseline the host compares other EVs to for how the software and tech feel.

Car

Tesla Model Y

"So I've been over in the US on work a few times and taken a Tesla for a weekend, Model 3 and Model Y. And that was kind of my benchmark, I guess for software and technology."

The Tesla Model Y is an electric SUV. The host is using it along with the Model 3 as a baseline to compare other EVs, especially for the software and tech experience.

Car

BYD Atto 2

"But my first cars were the Kia EV3, MG S5 and the BYD Atto 2. And that's where the journey began."

The BYD Atto 2 is an electric car from BYD. The host mentions it as one of the first EVs they tested to start building their opinions.

Car

Audi S5

"... dynamics. But my first cars were the Kia EV3, MG S5 and the BYD Atto 2. And that's where the journey ..."

The Audi S5 is a sportier version of an Audi car. It’s meant to be more powerful and more fun to drive than the standard model. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because it was one of the speaker’s earlier cars.

Car

Kia EV3

"But my first cars were the Kia EV3, MG S5 and the BYD Atto 2. And that's where the journey began."

The Kia EV3 is an electric car model. In this conversation it’s part of the early set of EVs the host tested while figuring out what they liked and didn’t like.

Car

Alpina B10

"...ree, I think they're called. Geely EX5, Leapmotor B10, GAC AONV and the UT as it was that same dealer. ..."

The Alpina B10 is a luxury sedan that’s been tuned to feel more powerful and sporty than a standard version. It’s mentioned because the conversation is comparing different cars the speaker has looked at or driven. It’s basically being used as an example of a performance-focused luxury car.

Car

Galaxy Geely Ex5

"...he hashtag one and three, I think they're called. Geely EX5, Leapmotor B10, GAC AONV and the UT as it was tha..."

The Galaxy EX5 is an electric car model. The podcast mentions it while talking about different EV options and which one might fit the buyer. It’s part of the comparison process for choosing an EV.

Car

Elexio Hyundai Alexio

"...he UT as it was that same dealer. Renault Scenic, Hyundai Alexio. I think they were the ones who drove and then I ..."

Elexio is a car name that comes up while the speaker is talking about cars they looked at. Since this is an EV podcast, it’s likely part of comparing electric options. The episode doesn’t give enough detail here to say more than that it was on their list.

Car

Toyota bZ4X

"I think they were the ones who drove and then I looked at the Polestar 2 Toyota BZ4X, BYD C1, C1, Volvo EX30 and the Q85. I was trying to type them out as you went."

The Toyota bZ4X is Toyota’s electric SUV. The host lists it among many EVs they tested to compare how the cars feel and how the tech works.

Car

Polestar 2

"I think they were the ones who drove and then I looked at the Polestar 2 Toyota BZ4X, BYD C1, C1, Volvo EX30 and the Q85. I was trying to type them out as you went."

The Polestar 2 is an electric car brand/model the host tested. It’s mentioned as part of the broader set of EVs they compared once they moved beyond Tesla.

Car

Volvo EX30

"I think they were the ones who drove and then I looked at the Polestar 2 Toyota BZ4X, BYD C1, C1, Volvo EX30 and the Q85. I was trying to type them out as you went."

The Volvo EX30 is a small electric SUV. The host mentions it as part of the broader range of EVs they looked at while comparing brands.

Car

Geely EX5

"I mean, like we landed on the Geely EX5 was what my son and wife loved because it was like the luxury of it. The massage seats, you know, the big opening roof. But for me, like it was just too soft and floaty to drive, especially coming from the Mini."

The Geely EX5 is an electric car. The speaker says their family liked it for comfort features, but they personally didn’t like how it drove because it felt too soft and not very “driver-y.”

Car

Skoda

"But like we just got into Skoda's. We're both in Skoda's this weekend. I got it instantly and went, this is, I can feel this is a European car. It's tuned. I can feel the ride."

Skoda is mentioned as the brand the speakers are driving this weekend. The speaker claims they could “feel” it was a European car because it’s “tuned,” emphasizing that chassis tuning and ride/handling setup can make cars feel distinct even when they’re all trying to be comfortable.

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ride

"It's tuned. I can feel the ride. It's so much different to many other cars on the road."

Here, “ride” means how smooth the car feels over rough roads. The speaker says you can tell right away that the Skoda’s ride is set up differently.

Term

driving dynamics

"Yeah. And you obviously, despite the overwhelming love from your partner and your son, the Geely didn't make it just because you didn't like the driving dynamics."

Driving dynamics are how a car feels when you’re actually driving it. It includes things like steering feel and ride smoothness, and that’s why the speaker didn’t want the Geely EX5.

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head up display

"what I did love, mate, was the head up display, Stephen, because unfortunately you didn't get to drive it because I went away and you had the Mercedes you loved. Was the head up display was down the bottom of the windscreen. And it was a reflection as all head up displays is, but it had this depth to it. So it made you think it was kind of far further into the screen than what it was."

A head-up display shows important driving info on the windshield. That way you don’t have to take your eyes off the road, and the way it’s positioned can make it look clearer or more “real.”

Concept

HUD depth / apparent distance

"Was the head up display was down the bottom of the windscreen. And it was a reflection as all head up displays is, but it had this depth to it. So it made you think it was kind of far further into the screen than what it was. It had a really good look. I really liked that."

They’re talking about how a windshield display can trick your eyes a bit—making the information look like it’s farther away than it really is. That can affect whether it feels easy and comfortable to read.

Term

heads up display

"The heads up display, I liked it. [725.7s] I think that I like those ones that with that full augmented reality projection on the windscreen, but I think that Alexio had a more practical one."

A heads-up display shows important info on the windshield. That way you don’t have to look down at the dashboard as much.

Term

augmented reality projection

"I think that I like those ones that with that full augmented reality projection on the windscreen, but I think that Alexio had a more practical one. [734.1s] I drove the Kona as well, actually."

Augmented reality projection overlays helpful directions or warnings on what you’re already seeing through the windshield. It’s like “digital arrows” on the real road view.

Car

Hyundai Kona

"I drove the Kona as well, actually. [736.0s] Anthony, you said, you said that you, you said you live in the inner city."

The Hyundai Kona is a small SUV/crossover. In EV form, it’s a popular car to test because it’s easy to drive in cities and it’s designed for everyday charging.

Term

off street parking

"What's your, what's your charging situation that you have off street parking or how's it going to go? [746.2s] I have off street parking."

Off-street parking matters for EV ownership because it usually enables home charging. Without a driveway/garage, you may rely more on public chargers, which can be slower and less convenient.

Car

Dodge Charger

"...t the Zika, you know, pre-order deal comes with a charger. I just need to get the electrician to wire it up..."

A Dodge Charger is a car model that’s usually known for performance. In this podcast, it’s mentioned because a deal includes a home charging setup, so you need an electrician to install it properly. That’s about charging your car at home, not about how the car drives.

Term

home charger

"But the Zika, you know, pre-order deal comes with a charger. [758.7s] I just need to get the electrician to wire it up."

A home charger is a charging unit you install where you park your car. It makes it easier to charge regularly without hunting for public chargers.

Concept

pre-order deal

"But the Zika, you know, pre-order deal comes with a charger. [758.7s] I just need to get the electrician to wire it up."

A pre-order deal means you pay before the car arrives. You might get extras included, but the delivery date can change.

Car

Sealion Cline 7

"Correct, yes. So I was looking at C-Line 7, but I'm not too really too sure which variant will fit me. And also, I've got other things I've got to think about as well,"

The Sealion 7 is an electric car model. The podcast mentions it because the speaker is deciding between different versions (variants) and wants to make sure the right one fits. They’re also thinking about other factors before choosing.

Car

Subaru WRX

"...up-and-coming Addo 3 Evo. Because I used to own a WRX, but I own a Forester now, so I would like someth..."

The Subaru WRX is a sporty version of a Subaru car. It’s designed to be fun to drive and usually has all-wheel drive for better grip. The podcast mentions it because the speaker used to own one before switching to another Subaru.

Car

Volkswagen Golf

"... about Volkswagen, right? When Volkswagen had the Golf, sells great, good car. Then you add in the, the ..."

The Volkswagen Golf is a common, everyday car model. People like it because it’s practical and generally easy to use. In the podcast, it’s brought up as a car that sold really well when it was being discussed.

Car

Nissan R32

"..., sells great, good car. Then you add in the, the R32, the GTI. You start to really entice people who l..."

The Nissan Skyline is a car model that’s known for being sporty. The podcast brings it up because it has a reputation that attracts drivers who want performance. It’s being used as an example of a car that draws attention.

Concept

second hand EV

"That's right. And I think our advice there is to anyone looking at a second hand EVs, don't buy a second hand EV if it doesn't have a battery health report included like pickles and others are doing."

Buying a used electric car is a bit different because the battery’s condition is the big thing to worry about. If the battery is worn out, the car can cost more later.

Term

battery health report

"And I think our advice there is to anyone looking at a second hand EVs, don't buy a second hand EV if it doesn't have a battery health report included like pickles and others are doing."

It’s a check that tells you how worn out the EV battery is. For a used electric car, that matters a lot because a badly degraded battery can be costly to fix.

Concept

government subsidies

"but we're not relying on government subsidies to sell our cars."

Government subsidies are money the government provides to lower the cost of something. Here, they’re talking about whether EV sales depend on those incentives or whether the cars are good value even without them.

Term

FBT

"At least 38 callers have specifically called out the FBT and novated leases as part of their decision."

FBT stands for Fringe Benefits Tax. It’s a tax rule that can affect how much it costs when your employer provides a car, and for EVs it can make them cheaper for employees to use.

Term

novated leases

"At least 38 callers have specifically called out the FBT and novated leases as part of their decision."

A novated lease is a way to get a car through your employer. Instead of paying the lease yourself, the employer manages it and you often pay using salary deductions, which can make the car cheaper—especially when EV tax rules help.

Concept

incentives

"these kind of incentives, as simple as they are, quite frankly, really do drive people's interest."

Incentives are rewards or cost reductions meant to get people to do something. In this case, the hosts are saying incentives can make more people seriously consider EVs.

Concept

fuel crisis

"And then you pair it with other factors like the fuel crisis and, hey, presto, it's a big win for the industry in terms of really convincing some people to consider an EV."

A fuel crisis refers to a period when fuel availability and/or prices become unstable or unusually high. In EV discussions, it’s often cited as a driver for consumers to consider EVs because electricity can be cheaper and more predictable than petrol or diesel.

Concept

hybrid

"Why would you buy a hybrid or a petrol car when you can get these EVs on the FBT on novated leases that are cheaper?"

A hybrid uses both a gasoline engine and an electric motor/battery. The hosts are comparing hybrids and petrol cars to EVs based on cost after incentives.

Concept

petrol car

"Why would you buy a hybrid or a petrol car when you can get these EVs on the FBT on novated leases that are cheaper?"

A petrol car runs on gasoline. They’re using it as the comparison point to show why EVs might be the cheaper option with certain tax/lease incentives.

Term

charging infrastructure

"Is there enough planning of infrastructure and charging stations? ... They're working with a lot of institutions to understand where our charging infrastructure needs to be"

Charging infrastructure is the network of charging points (home chargers, public fast chargers, and everything in between) that supports EVs. If it’s planned and expanded alongside EV adoption, it reduces “range anxiety” and makes EV ownership feel practical for more drivers.

Concept

EV take up

"Are they doing enough to really drive up EV take up? I think the government's certainly on the right track."

“EV take up” means how many people start using EVs. It depends on incentives and whether charging is easy enough in real life.

Concept

charging at home

"So consumers, when we talk to them and we say, look, the majority of EV owners are charging at home, and that takes out the public charging infrastructure."

Charging at home means you plug your EV in where you live. That way you don’t have to hunt for chargers every day.

Term

charging network

"But I wonder whether the rural regional expansion of the charging network is happening at the right rate when you consider how fast the car sales are happening... But for those big trips, I feel like... the broader charging network is bigger and better?"

A charging network is basically the map of EV charging stations you can rely on. If there aren’t enough chargers in the places people drive to, long trips become harder.

Term

OEM

"I know the government's got a role to play, but don't you think the industry itself selling the cars needs to ensure that the broader infrastructure play... is bigger and better?... how we can support as an OEM."

OEM just means the car maker—the company that builds the EV. They often have to coordinate with charging providers and government so drivers can actually charge the cars.

Company

NRMA

"We're starting to see as well. We meant NRMA is a great example in the big four parks. They bought EV chargers in the mountains."

NRMA is an Australian motoring group. Here they’re mentioned as an example of an organization helping install EV chargers in places where it previously wasn’t common.

Term

EV chargers

"We meant NRMA is a great example in the big four parks. They bought EV chargers in the mountains. That was never a thing before."

EV chargers are the stations that plug into your EV to add electricity. Putting them in remote or scenic areas can make road trips much easier.

Concept

private charging

"[1654.9s] So it's not necessarily always just a public charging infrastructure. [1658.2s] There's also private industry that can benefit from that. [1661.1s] Our dealerships are putting charging infrastructure and when we expand our dealer network, we"

Private charging is when a business installs EV chargers for its own guests or customers. The idea is that you can charge while you’re there, not just at public stations.

Term

residual values

"...they have to go and constantly discount them, which messes with the residual values. For us, if you price the car correctly in the first place, you have some surety on that price over the long term, which helps customers with their residual values..."

Residual value is basically what the car might be worth later. If a company constantly discounts cars, it can make the car seem worth less in the future too.

Concept

trade it in

"How much is this thing going to be worth in three years time when I want to trade it in? ...for us, pricing it correctly in the first place helps that proposition."

Trade-in means you give your current car to the dealer and use its value to help pay for the next one. If the car holds value well, the trade-in is usually better.

Brand

Ezeka showroom

"But then when you go to a new brand dealership like Ezeka showroom and you get to get behind the wheel, don't even drive it, just sit in there and you realize, oh my gosh."

They’re talking about going to a Zeekr dealer/showroom. The point is that seeing the car in person helps you understand why it’s priced the way it is.

Topic

building brand buzz before showrooms

"But it hasn't even been in showrooms. There was a buzz... started to trickle through YouTube and it started to hit the Reddit forums and the Facebook forums, we see those forums."

They talk about how EV brands build excitement early—before most people can actually see or buy the cars. The conversation centers on social media and forums and how that turns into customer feedback.

Brand

Lotus

"We have luxury pedigree from Polestar. We have performance pedigree from Lotus."

Lotus is known for making cars that handle well. Here, the speaker is saying Zeekr’s EVs draw on that performance background.

Company

Geely Holding Group

"We have EV engineering and technology from the Geely Holding Group. When you blend that together, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out."

Geely Holding Group is the big company behind several car brands. The speaker is saying Zeekr’s EV know-how comes from that larger group.

Brand

Qantas

"So across shopping centers, even the T3 domestic airport right now, the Qantas terminal, there's a car there."

Qantas is an airline, and the speaker is saying the car is shown at a Qantas terminal. That’s basically a big public marketing spot to get attention.

Topic

EV brand visibility and customer curiosity

"[1912.9s] They go, what's that car? [1914.1s] I mean, I was at Rouse Hill Town Center recently and the car was sitting outside of the Woolworths. ... [1962.5s] So because of that information being disseminated online, people are just more engaged and more confident about the product."

They’re talking about how electric cars are showing up in more public places, so people notice them. They also say people do a lot of research online before going to a dealership.

Concept

information dissemination online before dealership visits

"[1943.1s] And then look, the reality is, guys, these days, people walk into a car dealership. [1948.3s] They know more about the car than the people selling it. ... [1969.0s] And they go in and they sit behind the wheel and it validates all the research they've done."

The hosts describe a shift where customers learn about an EV’s engineering and features online before visiting a dealership. That changes the dealership role from “teaching the basics” to validating what the buyer already researched.

Brand

Zeekr

"But so how are you guys coping with this sudden success and sudden interest in the brand? ... we are very blown away and very appreciative of customers buying into our brand, dealers buying into our brand"

Zeekr is the electric-car brand they’re talking about. They’re saying demand is rising fast, so both customers and dealers are getting more involved.

Term

dealer partners

"We work with our dealer partners to understand if we were to expand, how do we expand, where when does that happen?"

Dealer partners are the local shops that sell the brand’s cars. The company is coordinating with them when deciding how to expand in a country or region.

Term

owner group

"And in order to do that, we have to make big decisions like how do we keep our owner group engaged? So we're running events with owners."

An owner group is a community of people who already have the brand’s vehicles. The segment frames it as something the company actively manages—keeping owners engaged through events and feedback sessions.

Company

R&D division

"We invite them for feedback sessions on a regular basis to talk directly with our executives. We take feedback straight to HQ with our R&D division."

R&D is short for research and development. It’s the team inside the company that uses ideas and feedback to improve the cars.

Term

handover experience

"But we don't just want to chuck in the keys and go, see you mate, enjoy the car. We want to give them that good handover experience."

The handover experience is what happens when you pick up your new car—like getting a walkthrough and making sure everything is set up. They’re saying it matters to them.

Car

Land Rover Range Rover

"...ne. I think people who, well, I can say it, think Range Rover, think Eastern suburbs, wealthy individuals are g..."

The Range Rover is a luxury SUV, meaning it’s built to feel comfortable and high-end. The podcast mentions it because people often connect it with wealthy buyers. It’s mainly being used as an example of a premium car type.

Term

powertrains

"We've got great products, so HQ has done an incredible job and we're very fortunate that in the current state of NVES in Australia, we're able to bring these cars in. We built up enough credits that we can have a diversified mix of powertrains to suit the Australian market,"

“Powertrains” just means the car’s drivetrain setup—what kind of engine/motors it uses and how it moves the wheels. They’re saying they can offer different kinds to suit local buyers.

Term

NVES penalties

"We built up enough credits that we can have a diversified mix of powertrains to suit the Australian market, and we can do that with that penalty. We don't have to charge NVES penalties to customers because our mix is correct."

They’re talking about a government rule (NVES) that can add extra costs if you don’t meet certain requirements. They say they’ve earned enough credits to avoid passing those extra costs onto customers.

Term

credits

"we're able to bring these cars in. We built up enough credits that we can have a diversified mix of powertrains to suit the Australian market, and we can do that with that penalty."

Here, “credits” mean some kind of government-approved allowance you earn by meeting requirements. They’re saying those credits help them bring in a wider variety of EVs without extra penalty costs.

Car

Zeekr 7GT

"...more exciting. I mean, personally, when I saw the 7GT for the first time, I can't wait to get behind th..."

The Zeekr 7GT is an electric car. The speaker says they’re excited to drive it, which is why it’s mentioned in the conversation. It’s basically part of their shortlist of EVs they want to try.

Concept

shooting brake style

"I'm going to start a change level petition to have one as a company car because we need more shooting brakes and that style of car in Australia, so I can't wait. Yeah, mate. You've got a great road map coming."

A “shooting brake” is a car shape that mixes a sporty coupe look with extra space like a wagon. It’s often chosen by people who want style plus some practicality.

Car

2021 Mazda CX-8

"So we've got a 2020 Subaru XV, which we're keeping, and we're selling a 2021 Mazda CX-8."

The 2021 Mazda CX-8 is a larger Mazda crossover meant for families. They’re getting rid of it to move into an electric car.

Car

2020 Subaru XV

"So we've got a 2020 Subaru XV, which we're keeping, and we're selling a 2021 Mazda CX-8."

A 2020 Subaru XV is a small crossover SUV. They mention it because they’re keeping it for now while they move toward an electric car.

Concept

EV shortlist

"Was Tesla the one and only brand you looked at, mate? ... Was there any other brands in contention? ... You didn't consider Zika or Geely or BYD or anything like that?"

A shortlist is just the short list of cars you seriously think about before buying. They’re talking about which EVs made that list and which didn’t.

Car

Kia EV5

"Okay. The keyer EV5, I think it was. Yeah. I'm a person that loves te..."

The Kia EV5 is an electric car made by Kia. The podcast mentions it because the speaker is interested in it and likes what it offers. It’s part of the discussion about which EVs they’re considering.

Brand

Zika

"None of the big Chinese brands appeal to you. We just spoke to one of the bosses of Zika."

“Zika” sounds like it’s meant to be Zeekr, an electric-car brand. They’re saying they spoke with someone high up at that company.

Brand

Chinese options

"Yeah, we didn't consider any Chinese options, to be honest. Right. Fair enough."

“Chinese options” just means EVs made by Chinese companies. The speaker is saying they didn’t consider those brands when shopping.

Term

long wheelbase

"Is it just the standard Y or the, what's it called? Long wheelbase. Just the standard one, just the base model one."

Long wheelbase means the car’s wheel-to-wheel distance is bigger. That usually gives more room inside, especially for rear passengers, but it can make the car harder to park.

Car

Tesla Model S

"I had a Model S back in the day, [2669.8s] and it did feel like it was the techiest thing in the world."

The Tesla Model S is an all-electric car made by Tesla. People often mention it because it was one of the first EVs that felt very “future-tech” inside.

Term

early mover advantage

"Being an early mover advantage, [2712.0s] being Tesla one of the first brands, [2713.6s] I think that makes plays a huge part."

Early mover advantage means the first company to do something can get a head start. In EVs, that can translate into people thinking of that brand as the “techy” one.

Term

granny charger

"So we did buy a granny charger, [2723.9s] because we do go camping and holidaying a fair bit."

“Granny charger” is a slang term for a slow EV charging setup, usually using a standard household outlet. It’s often used as a backup or for overnight charging, especially when higher-power home charging isn’t installed.

Term

Tesla wall charger

"We did also install one of the Tesla wall chargers. [2735.0s] Nice."

A Tesla wall charger is a special charger you mount at home. It usually charges your EV faster than a regular plug.

Car

Born Bourne

"Yeah. Bobby the Bourne? I've had five or six cars"

“Born” is mentioned as one of the cars the speaker has had. The podcast doesn’t explain what it is in this snippet, so we can only tell it’s part of their personal car list. There aren’t details here about what the car is like.

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