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968: The Solution®, Don’t Buy The Torture Chamber, Maximum Resolution

968: The Solution®, Don’t Buy The Torture Chamber, Maximum Resolution

Everyday Driver Car Debate Feb 04, 2025 56 min
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About this episode

Exploring the decline of small cars in the U.S. market, the hosts delve into listener questions about the future of compact vehicles and how manufacturers can revitalize interest. They discuss the emotional appeal of driving and the importance of fun over safety in car buying decisions. The episode also features a segment on a listener's search for a practical yet enjoyable daily driver, leading to suggestions like the GR86 and BRZ. With insights on automotive trends and potential revivals of classic nameplates, the discussion is both thought-provoking and entertaining.

Technical Too Afraid to Ask
Concept

Circuit of the Americas

"...what's Koda circuit of the Americas. That is the purpose built F1 track just outside of Austin. It is awesome."

Circuit of the Americas is a racetrack in Texas designed for Formula 1 racing. It's famous for its unique design and is a popular venue for car enthusiasts and racing fans.

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Nissan 300 ZX
Niels de Wit from Lunteren, The Netherlands (CC BY 2.0)
Car

Nissan 300 ZX

"...with our cars of the past, 300 ZX and 928. We got those on Koda."

The Nissan 300 ZX is a sporty car that was made in the 1980s and 1990s. It's known for being fast and stylish, making it popular among car enthusiasts.

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Porsche 928
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA)
Car

Porsche 928

"... South trip with our cars of the past, 300 ZX and 928. We got those on Koda. We're going to go back wit..."
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Concept

Spa-Francorchamps

"...a day at Spa, Frankershot, and a road tour in between with some great cars, great food, great people..."

Spa-Francorchamps is a well-known racetrack in Belgium where many exciting car races happen. It's famous for its twists and turns, making it a favorite among racing fans.

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Concept

Nürburgring

"...a day on the ring, a day at Spa, Frankershot, and a road tour in between with some great cars..."

The Nürburgring is a well-known race track in Germany where many car manufacturers test their cars. It's famous for being very difficult and exciting to drive on.

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Company

AutoTempest

"...you need Auto Tempest.com. Any car anywhere at any price auto tempest searches all the major car listing sites on the web..."

AutoTempest is a website that helps you find cars for sale by searching many different car listing sites at once. It shows you price trends and lets you save your searches.

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Term

price history

"...Auto Tempest has recently added price history for every car listed so you can see how prices are trending..."

Price history shows how much a car has cost in the past, which can help you understand if the current price is fair or if it's gone up or down.

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Mazda Miata
Yaktatel (Public domain)
Car

Mazda Miata

"Zach drives a 2016 Miata and though he's not planning to part with it anytime soon, he feels the options for small cars are dwindling to near zero."

The Mazda MX-5 Miata is a small sports car that is very light and fun to drive. The 2016 version is popular for its good handling and sporty feel.

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Toyota Corolla
TTTNIS (CC0)
Car

Toyota Corolla

"...ld we do next for each one? For example BRZ 86 or Corolla GR or Miata or Civic SI WRX all of those. What wo..."
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Honda Civic
MercurySable99 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Honda Civic

"...one? For example BRZ 86 or Corolla GR or Miata or Civic SI WRX all of those. What would we do for the nex..."
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Subaru WRX
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Subaru WRX

"...example BRZ 86 or Corolla GR or Miata or Civic SI WRX all of those. What would we do for the next editi..."
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Toyota Corolla Gr
TTTNIS (CC0)
Car

Toyota Corolla Gr

"...ld we do next for each one? For example BRZ 86 or Corolla GR or Miata or Civic SI WRX all of those. What would..."
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Term

K cars

"...the Japanese who still buy K cars. K cars over here is the best example they can think of. K cars over here are a novelty."

K cars are small cars that are very popular in Japan. They have to follow certain rules about how big they can be and how powerful their engines can be, making them great for city driving.

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Car

Daihatsu K trucks

"...you see them actually over here a little dihatsu K trucks. You see them on like golf courses and big places that are resorts because they're perfect to fit down small pedestrian pathways..."

Daihatsu K trucks are tiny trucks made by the company Daihatsu. They're really useful for moving things around in tight spaces, like on golf courses or in small towns.

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Volkswagen Golf
Vauxford (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Volkswagen Golf

"...e a little dihatsu K trucks. You see them on like golf courses and big places that are resorts because t..."
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Term

horsepower

"...with the extra long back and the extra 600 horsepower. That's what we take seriously as a country. We don't buy small cars."

Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful a car's engine is. The more horsepower, the faster and stronger the car can be.

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Cadillac Escalade
Baron Maddock (CC BY 4.0)
Car

Cadillac Escalade

"...e it seriously. We take it seriously when it's an escalade with the extra long back and the extra 600 horsep..."
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Brand

Mini Cooper

"...I liked what Mini Cooper did for a long time. Yes. They appealed to the fun of driving..."

Mini Cooper is a car brand that makes small, stylish cars that are fun to drive.

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Brand

Alfa Romeo

"...but you know what alpha Romeo's commercials were excellent because it appealed to essential nature of driving..."

Alfa Romeo is a brand that makes sporty cars and often creates ads that focus on the enjoyment of driving.

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Term

miles per gallon

"...never mind the fact that I'm getting no miles per gallon as I sit here in traffic..."

Miles per gallon (MPG) tells you how far a car can go using one gallon of gas, which helps you understand its fuel efficiency.

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Scion Frs
MercurySable99 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Scion Frs

"...nd of things. And you wind up with stuff like the FRS which becomes the 86 chassis. What is that doing ..."
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Renault Wind
Dennis Elzinga (CC BY 2.0)
Car

Renault Wind

"...ving and racing and those kind of things. And you wind up with stuff like the FRS which becomes the 86 c..."
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Toyota RAV4
TTTNIS (CC0)
Car

Toyota RAV4

"...Now the RAV 4 selling a half million. If this car sells six to 10,000, we will feel like that was worth our investment."

The Toyota RAV4 is a small SUV that many people like because it's useful for families and everyday driving. It's known for being reliable and having a lot of space for cargo.

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Tesla Cybertruck
Alexander-93 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Tesla Cybertruck

"...I'll go the other end of the spectrum. Why does the cyber truck exist? Because you have a CEO who went, no, no, no, no, no, seriously, that child's drawing make it look like that."

The Tesla Cybertruck is a new electric truck that looks very different from regular trucks. It's designed to be strong and high-tech, appealing to people who want something unique.

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Concept

American name plate

"...there are no American name plates. I won't say manufacturer because then we get into the, what is American?"

'American name plate' means car brands that are usually thought of as American, like Ford and Chevy. It's a bit tricky because many companies make cars in the U.S. but are from other countries.

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Ford F150
UltraTech66 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Ford F150

"Well, the people that are now buying K trucks, I want a smaller truck. Right. But they did not appeal to F-150 and Silverado buyers. Of course not. Absolutely. None of those buyers would have ever considered a Tundra. Now they're sort of like, huh. Now they're big enough."
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Chevrolet Silverado
LukaCali (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Chevrolet Silverado

"...ruck. Right. But they did not appeal to F-150 and Silverado buyers. Of course not. Absolutely. None of those ..."
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Toyota Tundra
IFCAR (Public domain)
Car

Toyota Tundra

"...maybe I should get a Toyota Tundra. They associated that. So it took them forever to get that thinking..."

The Toyota Tundra is a large truck that many people use for heavy-duty tasks or towing. It's known for being strong and dependable.

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Term

front-wheel drive

"...it can't just be a front wheel drive manual transmission hatchback. It's got to be something true."

Front-wheel drive means that the front wheels of the car are the ones that get the power from the engine. This is a common setup in many cars and helps with fuel efficiency.

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Term

manual transmission

"...it can't just be a front wheel drive manual transmission hatchback. It's got to be something true."

A manual transmission is a way to drive a car where you have to change gears yourself using a stick and a pedal. It gives you more control over how the car drives.

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Ford Edge
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Ford Edge

"...ompany, maybe BMW, maybe Toyota, who's on cutting edge of tech. I mean, you could, you could say every c..."
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Company

Stellantis

"Instead of trying to make each brand do their thing, I think that's Stellantis's problem right now. Well, but you know, it's interesting to bring up Stellantis because I was thinking about this."

Stellantis is a big car company that makes many different brands of cars, like Dodge and Chrysler. It was created when two companies joined together.

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Dodge Dart
Noah Wulf (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Dodge Dart

"This is a few years ago when we released the Dodge Dart. It's about a decade ago. It's a little more than that. Okay. They re-release the Dodge Dart."

The Dodge Dart is a small car that Dodge brought back a few years ago. It was meant to be affordable, but many people didn't think it drove very well.

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Chrysler 200
HJUdall (CC0)
Car

Chrysler 200

"Now it was it was a companion car. Think about this now to the re-released Chrysler 200. These were genuinely bad to drive cars, but you couldn't tell it from the commercial."

The Chrysler 200 is a medium-sized car that Chrysler made for several years. It was meant to be a good option for families, but many people found it lacking in quality.

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Term

GR models

"Now Toyota has done this in a little more viral way where watch the Toyota commercials of the last five years where they brought up the GR models."

GR models are special performance cars made by Toyota. They are designed to be more fun to drive and often have features that make them better for racing.

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Subaru Outbacks
IFCAR (Public domain)
Car

Subaru Outbacks

"But probably dig in and love it. I submit to you, we're going to talk about what we do to change some of these cars. I submit to you that in some cases, there are people buying Subaru Outbacks because they love their WX so much 15 years ago before they had kids."

The Subaru Outback is a type of car that can handle rough roads and bad weather. It's popular with people who like to go on adventures or need a reliable vehicle for their family.

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Ford Probe
Kieran White (CC BY 2.0)
Car

Ford Probe

"...? It isn't the Mustang and I don't allow the name probe to be ever used again in the history of time. Go ..."
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Ford Mustang
Hans-Jürgen Neubert (CC BY 4.0)
Car

Ford Mustang

"... is the new small fun car from Ford? It isn't the Mustang and I don't allow the name probe to be ever used ..."
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Ford Focus
Vauxford (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Ford Focus

"Go back to the focus. What is that? What is the new Ford focus?"

The Ford Focus is a small car that is known for being fun to drive and good on gas. It's a popular choice for people who want a reliable vehicle that isn't too big.

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Ford Falcon
GTHO (CC BY-SA 3.0)
Car

Ford Falcon

"...ly have it as a fun hatchback but let's go to the Falcon. Bring back the Ford Falcon. Make that a genuine ..."
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Chevrolet Corvette
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA)
Car

Chevrolet Corvette

"obvious shopping Corvette off as the brand and all right. Yeah, for sure, competitor and maybe a cross platform sharing. And then the Corvette at the top end."

The Chevrolet Corvette is a fast and stylish sports car made by Chevrolet. It's known for being very powerful and is often seen as a symbol of American muscle cars.

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Pontiac Fiero
MartinHansV (Public domain)
Car

Pontiac Fiero

"...olstice is a great name. Solstice at the low end. Fiero is the MR2. Oh, Hilton, stay."
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Toyota MR2
TTTNIS (CC0)
Car

Toyota MR2

"...great name. Solstice at the low end. Fiero is the MR2. Oh, Hilton, stay."
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Pontiac Solstice
MercurySable99 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Pontiac Solstice

"Solstice is a great name. Solstice at the low end. Fiero i..."
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Honda S2000
Handelsgeselschaft (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Honda S2000

"Honda S2000. S2001."

The Honda S2000 is a small sports car that Honda made for a decade. It's loved for its fun driving experience and powerful engine that can go really fast.

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Mazda Rx8
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Mazda Rx8

"The S3000, whatever it is, yeah, for sure. RX8, RX9 and the Mitsubishi 3000 GT. It harkens back...."
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Mazda Mx5 Miata
Niels de Wit from Lunteren, The Netherlands (CC BY 2.0)
Car

Mazda Mx5 Miata

"That brings me to the second part where David's asking what we do to these cars for the next version. I don't have all of them, but I did talk about a few of them for the MX-5 Miata. I think next for that is a hybrid powertrain."
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Toyota Prius
TTTNIS (CC0)
Car

Toyota Prius

"...me engineer could do this, but a variation of the Prius drivetrain. Current Prius drivetrain has a decent..."
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BMW E36
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW E36

"...nt it base or supercharged? It's looking like the E36 BMW size. Think about that."
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Honda Prelude
Riley from Christchurch, New Zealand (CC BY 2.0)
Car

Honda Prelude

"...in early 07 asks for our thoughts on the upcoming prelude. Will it be a front wheel drive competitor to the..."
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Nissan 240SX
The pun stops here (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Nissan 240SX

"...ey have a partnership with Nissan, bring back the 240SX. Agreed."
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Toyota Celica
TTTNIS (CC0)
Car

Toyota Celica

"...he prelude back, Toyota, you've got to do the new Celica. Toyota, you've got to do the new MR2."
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BMW 128I
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW 128I

"...ed golf sport wagon, and his current daily, a BMW 128i. Now, here's the thing about this email that shoc..."
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Ford Expedition
Noah Wulf (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Ford Expedition

"That's like, those are truck numbers. Well, the expedition gets 12. I know."
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Porsche Cayenne
Alexander-93 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche Cayenne

"Those are truck. That's my old cayenne before the big tires. Now, with the big tires, it..."
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Tesla Model 3S
Granada (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Tesla Model 3S

"three years from now. So, he's bouncing around on many options from Beater 2019 to 2020 Model 3's, mid-2004 Rangers, or the FK-8 generation type R's half of his commute would be miserable, he admits."
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Ford Rangers
Alexander-93 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Ford Rangers

"...ions from Beater 2019 to 2020 Model 3's, mid-2004 Rangers, or the FK-8 generation type R's half of his comm..."
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Tesla Model 3
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA)
Car

Tesla Model 3

"...ake 40 grand for a 2021 Ticon. It's hard to argue Model 3 when that's staring you in the face. Okay. Autote..."
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Dodge Challengers
Ermell (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Dodge Challengers

"...nd GR86s, a whole lot of Kia souls, lots of Dodge challengers, Moustangs, as far as the I can see, a handful of..."
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Subaru Brzs
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Subaru Brzs

"...lot of fun cars come up. Some mini-coopers, newer BRZs and GR86s, a whole lot of Kia souls, lots of Dodg..."
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Kia Souls
DieselFordMondeo (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Kia Souls

"...coopers, newer BRZs and GR86s, a whole lot of Kia souls, lots of Dodge challengers, Moustangs, as far as ..."
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Ford Ts Model
Alexander-93 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Ford Ts Model

"...e two from the factory. You don't need to get the TS model. You can get it in auto."
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Porsche 911S
David Villarreal Fernández (CC BY-SA 2.0)
Car

Porsche 911S

"But the largest number of great cars. I guess it wouldn't be Porsche, because even though they've produced many 9.11s, that's still one model."
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Porsche Cayman
Vauxford (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche Cayman

"Sure. Same for Cayman. Great."
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Honda CRX
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Honda CRX

"...ut it last podcast and other podcasts. Why is the CRX a car we look back on fondly? Where's the CRX?"
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Bmw I3
Frank Schulenburg (CC0)
Car

Bmw I3

"...alking truly boring commute, then yeah, you buy a BMW i3. That's a quirky little commute device for 15 gra..."
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Lotus Elise
Thierry & Didier Descouens (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Lotus Elise

"...s astonished about is that my little stupid Lotus Elise is fun doing stupid things. Just I need to go get..."
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Porsche 911 GT3
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA)
Car

Porsche 911 GT3

"...g. He was watching Matt's review of the new 992.2 GT3 and listening to him talk about the steering prog..."
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