Giovanni Lanfranchi from Zeekr discusses the brand's strategic direction and the importance of unifying R&D across its platforms. He highlights how Zeekr is adapting to European customer preferences, including design and technology features, while maintaining a close collaboration with their Chinese counterparts. The conversation covers the challenges and successes of integrating AI in development processes, the unique characteristics of their vehicles, and the potential for future expansion into North America. Lanfranchi also shares insights on customer involvement in product development, showcasing a commitment to creating user-friendly features.
At CES 2026 Sam and friend of the show John Voelker sat down for a conversation with Giovanni Lanfranchi, CEO of Zeekr Technology Europe to learn more about the Geely Group's approach to product development
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"Polestar and Lotus and possibly some like that. Do they share these platforms..."
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"...Do they share these platforms and in particular I asked because..."
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"...the Gili group so brand that are not link Zeekr and Gili itself..."
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"...the chief architect of the entire CIS see the super hybrid architecture..."
CIS super hybrid architecture is a special design that helps car makers build different types of cars more easily. It makes cars better and helps save money during production.
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"...look at the Zeekr 9x. This is an instantiation of the CIS architecture..."
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"...especially on the vehicle dynamics there is uh we have a department that through in france fort actually really focusing on all these vehicle dynamics characteristics..."
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"...there is all the calibration tuning and and the ai proactive takes uh from a overall out there platforms..."
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"...there is the 48 more stabilization bar that is capable to really detect..."
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"...there is a lot of work around the motion sickness so fusing elements from the sensor from the from the outside..."
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I thought what I would do is give you a few questions and let you answer them
however you choose. I've read about Gile for a long time. I've read about the
two additional brands in no particular order. I'm curious about how the brands
have been received in Europe and what lessons Gile has learned about European
customer tastes, modifications that may have been required and what the brand
images are in Europe as and sort of all in comparison to how those things may
line up in China. Yeah, very good. So I will just elaborate a little bit, try to
address together all your questions. Maybe to set the context it is important to
share with you a very important strategic decision that the company had
probably it can be precise but it was March 2024 and internally it's called
Paisu Declaration. That was basically a sort of manifesto issued by the company
by our chairman, chairman Lee. That basically if you read it is just one page
pretty simple but what this declaration does is basically to set some
guiding principle for the next coming here and one of these guiding principle
and I'm putting a little bit of context but then I come to your question was to
really have a very strong unification, consolidation, platformization across
entire GV company, entire GV group and I want to be very honest with you. When I
read it since I'm of course I had a lot of other experience with other company
IDM and so on I said yeah okay maybe just a strategic direction it will take a
while to to basically realize it. In reality this was super fast. The
implication this had have been really yeah I'm being just shocked by the amount
of profound radical change of the way of working of the internal technology stack
alignment and of what basically this meant for our ultimate product and then
for the customer. So one of the points and now I start getting into your brand
part was really to have previously there was some research and development
dedicated assigned into the brand. Okay so for example when I joined Z-Card we
have an electric electronic platform, an E platform, a centralized zonal platform, an E platform. We had an overall
mechanical architecture known as a SIA, Sustainable Exibirius
and we were basically building and hold the stack for the Z-Card break. Okay and in parallel there was
Gilly that was do something of course we were cooperating but they were two
different means. So what one of the implication of that of this Faizu
declaration was to really unify immediately all the R&D into one single
organization but most important into one single architectural stack at the
mechanical level, at the software level, at the application level. So now I start
getting a little bit more into your question. What you see now is that the
base, the core architecture for example if you go to the when you will go to the
Gilly book you will see the Z-Card 9S, you will see the Gilly M9, you will see
the Lincoln Core 900. They all share same mechanical, electrical, electronic
architecture and this is extremely important because this is giving us the
level of steel, the level of abstraction that is very important in order to
stay competitive in this market. I will not mention name but yeah it's very
different from what were from the struggle that for example some European
OAS are having these days where it took several years. This was very very different
and also the results are already in the market. Now does it mean that it is one
size fits all? No because we had in this overall strategic declaration that was
also the direction to have an R&D at the research and development in
Europe. Basically focusing on European. I live US aside for the month but
European and let's say non-Chinese market, non-Chinese customers and this was more
than again I don't want to mention any name other Chinese competitors. This is
after the declaration or before during the decade. One of the elements has
been overseas is a strategic market for Gilly, no big surprise but what was not
soon obviously as a given was that this meant to have a significant R&D
presence in Europe. So far I'm leading an R&D center with basically two main
locations one is in Gothenburg, Sweden, one is in Frankfurt and we are working
on with the Chinese tea on this common mechanical and electric electronic
platform. If you want to give you the name the mechanical is the CIAR and
CIS and the electric electronic is the CIAR 2.0 but that's not too relevant.
But what is important is that we are working very closely with the Chinese
colleagues but we have we are not just as other Chinese are doing one car and
then let have a little bit of Euro and cap and a little bit of tuning just to
be sure it doesn't make so much noise into the European market. We are part since
day one of the requirement like the parliament of every car that will be in
Europe and we had a goal to really keep the announcement day in China and in
Europe mostly very very closely each other and I would not be again as other
are doing a car is in China and one year later it comes to why because we
are the development product definition in Europe working with China so that
something is being done in China and handed off to Europe say here make your
version of it you're collaborating in CIS DIY.
Okay so a couple follow-up plans if I may first off as I understand Gili
Gili Zeekr and Lincoln Pope. Gili the bigger company also has Volvo and
Polestar and Lotus and possibly some like that. Do they share these platforms and in
particular I asked because I did go to England to talk to the Polestar 5
development team. That was number one. Number two was do you have a some examples
of things that the European team would have put in that the Chinese teams may not have
prioritized or may not have very well thought out. So and I'm very I'm very honest and
direct on question number one Volvo and all the other brand in the Gili group so
brand that are not link Zeekr and Gili itself. Yes they will converge into this platform
so the goal is to have one single platform the difference is that for the linked Zeekr and
Gili it is already today the case you go to the you see the car and for Volvo and
Polestar it is working prox it will take some some extra month for some extra years.
As they go to their next generation of products they'll transition to this
commonized architecture. That's more sure. Is every car in your stand now a
commonized architecture as you just described? Okay. The second question examples I have several
but I give you two. One so in this so all the mechanical architecture is basically
out there conceived by key people in you. So I mentioned just a name but people like
Kenneth Patterson is a chief architect of the entire CIS see the super hybrid architecture.
When you go into the stand look at the Zeekr 9x. This is an instantiation of the CIS
architecture. This is basically conceived by a team but the chief architect is a Swedish guy
and this is because there is a lot of DNA over the past 20-25 years that we want.
What does it mean for Euro? For example in the 9x you will have a terrain adapt.
So it's basically a feature that is automatic is a sort of AI virtual sensor. So in the step
automatically the pipe of terrain you are driving, grass, snow asphalt and there are that
and you automatically tune the chassis. If you were yesterday into this overall AI master
brain it will tune the chassis in order to immediate. This was developed by Europe and now
is part of the common plan. But your question may be what is the difference? Is this powertrain
for instance also going to be used? Yes put it and what were some things that the European
developed inside brought? Yes so this terrain adapt was done completely and caught up in the
life cycle by the European team and now is part of the platform so every every car will leverage
but there is also the dual case. So I give you a second example navigation smart talk bit
and again I give you some some pain. When I joined Zcar I cooked the navigation from the China
and I immediately started to talk with customers and they were not very happy and it was not
because it was particularly bad but because the the style the interaction the level of the the
user interface for example they China like to be very heavy in terms of widget and sound
alert and my customer said please give me a break I don't want to have something a little cleaner
more simple simple elegant and simple for us elegance is matter of simplicity for them
elegance sometimes it again it's not that this right or wrong with that people it's a lot of widget
a lot of things a lot of people and that so is what we did was to on top of the common platform
so we didn't develop LOS we didn't develop we built a brand new digital smart copy European
application and now this is in production on the Zcar 7x and it will be in production it
will be deployed to RTA through all the car for Europe and this is very this is again it
leverages the fei the core services but he has a very specific european flavor in which sense
one it has a lot of for example he has cloud live update in terms of in terms of map
and and this is something that is differentiating a lot especially when is when we talk about
energy management scenario we really have done a very complete integration between the edas stack
and the digital cockpit so you can see know what the car does or what are there in your digital
cockpit part and basically we also had it on top a digital assistant a sort of a generative
AI assistant chat gbt like very tuned to customer to european custom actually and this is another
element we have done so one of the thing that we did in europe is to really push forward this notion
of customer procreation i tell you a little bit more about and this is something that i also
borrowed from my previous experience in software company in tech company so
traditionally let's take this navigation application this digital pocket as an example
traditionally the way uam or reward is we design the application we find the main spec
we start test we start developing and then we start testing and then we have hopefully some
customer clinic a few weeks before the launch and if there is something that doesn't go very well
we need to wait for maybe two three four months later or even one year late what we have done in
europe and i'm pretty proud of it on to really create a customer ambassador group so these are
people are z car owners car owners and they are not paid they are not consulted that are a
passionate to really talk with us discuss with us in in design thinking session in order to give us
not just their requirement but also their emotional view of how they would like the things
happen and we constantly iterate with them so when we deliver the product
we have almost a very good guarantee or confidence that this will be quite well accepted
by the overall customer cell and just to give you a proof point we had an overall
survey and ps survey for this navigation and we got out of five we got four point eighty five
income so that is for the european style it's also quite good to tell you so this is something
that we do on the platform but this is a very specific very focused on customers or european
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details is that something that you would do like bring the customers in to the lab and show them and
let them work with it and give you the feedback or do you know or visit perhaps also include
giving them giving those customers beta versions of the software to test in their vehicles sport
okay the way towards is with let's pick let's pick these navigation these invisible coffee
as an example so we had a design take a circle watch two days in a in a physical room with around
20 of them and this was just on their voluntary base right so it's it's a little it's a little bit
of an open source thing two days really and we have paid zero well just the just the lunch
okay where we basically start working with them on empathy map of possible use case
key design part and thought these two days then we start developing and yes we gave them
not just the driver but i can also show you everyone has a nap that they can both or or or
down both what they don't like or what they would like to add and this is completely transparent
so we know that for example one of the things that they didn't like was to have some automatic
rerouting for some ev station so we will we will basically add in the app a list of top requested
feature of top requested and everyone is voting or not voting so there is a sort of
hormone understanding so in some sense this create a little bit more stress and also some
a little bit more because everyone understands that we may have a critical issue or we may
have a feature that we are but on the other end it gives us the speed the fibers that we need to
bring bringing them in at the the requirements definition process and then going and implementing
and then continuing as you develop and validate and iterate on that and then of course they had
all the drivers to the OTA we give them all the all the version and and and that's what it gives us
a confidence that we are not just because as a as an engineer sometime we we tend to know
that typical engineer my my debut is very cute because it's just my debut and that's not the
exception yeah engineers can't be precious about the product they they have to they have to learn
to take that feedback and incorporate it incorporate understand it and this requires
also some maturity on our side because a typical engineer is not especially in the automotive
even think will be a little bit as a as a former automotive engineer I told
as a user of make of the features that people like Sam design under stairs I I have to be
I had to confess that I had some pushback at the beginning my key impact with these
these customer cooperation output but then it's really a lot of fun for them as well because when
you see you know the customer that is putting oh this doesn't seem the same car with this
two follow-ups to that did I hear you who say that customers did not prioritize routing among
ed charging station or they did they did okay and we didn't have in the very at the very beginning
or it was a little bit more convoluted so that's why they okay so the way that you were doing it
that they weren't happy with as opposed to oh yeah you're doing it okay okay and then the other
one big question what you have designed essentially sits on top of the standard api that's right is
this an over-the-air update that former owners will get that's it wow that's okay so the entire
appearance how do you approach example telling a customer by the way the next time you press
the button to take that update your entire dashboard will look different what there are the
but there is this uh output this communication channel and then there is also our uh marketing
and sales organization that is basically coming the way that you let let the customers know in
advance this is what's coming give them a preview before they get it so they can if they have questions
they can maybe learn about it a little bit more and uh talk to give you a concrete example on
december because we took a challenge to do that this ota before christmas so on december 20
cycles we had these ota on the 7x for this activity and it was it was a little bit oh my
let's hope to damage our christmas but actually it went it went very well and now but this is all
since we are on this platform all the application is just through an ota so what um what is the
underlying uh software platform for that system uh i know you know volvo and polestar using android
is that also in and the rep of the art of android okay you can android os yes and that is for european
vehicles but presumably not for the chinese market version this will not go into the chinese market
this is just for european file and uh and now we are uh i i would like to show you also maybe uh
in the in the boat something more we also are evolving because customers want to for example
they want to have on these uh as part of this digital uh co-creation one of the things that they
ask a lot is to have this digital assistant to be more and more location aware okay so if i drive
i want to say oh what is the the hotel on my right and and this is another another feature
that we have developed and in the next ota uh we will release to our to our customers
when so you said you pushed the seven x before christmas when would you a the ota yeah sorry
when would you say that project started to do the redesign to well for this navigation
is start well the navigation took six months developed the car up in digital cockpit
and uh since the seven x was already on the market right we took the first ota window before
er n to to deploy that those are the brackets to the story so i i imagine software engineers
at other auto companies may read data brazen i brought no and and again we we bought i don't
want to be now out of complementum but we really got some very very nice force from from here
what one of the challenges that automakers have found over the last five six years especially
legacy automakers that have established processes for developing and validating to deploying
software um is that those those traditional processes don't work for this um you know the
the the the fact that you know zekar and and lincoln co are relatively newer you know uh brands
you know and they they more or less started to scratch in the last six seven eight years um
where was the was the company able to establish that way of working from the ground up this um and
now you know um are you here your colleagues uh over the other brands of volvo volstar
they have certainly had some challenges with software development every six years are are
are you working with them to translate the the the the processes the organization for software
to the rest of the the company the short answer is yes and a little bit more uh
elaborated answer is that i think you really hit a very important point because sometimes we are
very focused on technology in reality of course technology is very important but what really
make a difference is the way of words is the process you add is the is the overall ability to
really to really quickly try to really quickly adapt to really create a customer feedback so
this is something that we are now quite well established in the zekar link and at
argini uh on volvo there is as i said as part of this platformization this is the word that is
i i would not say now the old way of work is completely standardized also across across yeah
it takes time to change the organization in the culture that has been around for 70 years yeah
but also the other point is that uh it's also important to be innovative in the way we for
example in the way we passed our shop for example and uh if you have time i would like to give you
a real a real day uh everyone is talking about k i you know digital a i generative a i and so
what we have done and this was also an element to set it up is basically starting from the
the spec the requirement to have an a i that create all the test cases
we always believe that there must be human in the loop i'm not a fan of a push a button and a i will
do will do my cappuccino it will not work that way i believe but it's a great accelerator so from a
spec there is a test case then this is something that we also want to be sure not in the traditional
way there will be a person a human that goes and say okay let's simulate a trip from uh uh
Berlin to Stockholm and let's see how the navigation is doing and so what we do is to really have a
camera and to really have the software running so basically the the camera is is like a human
that that captures what the dictionary will look about it will really detect all the issues it will
really have a report where say and this camera the camera is watching the screen uh in the lab
yeah and and he captured all the things that are not in sync with the original spec
and your report and and voila and this is it and then the engineers can go back and look and cut
dry and understand look at the at the delta on the problem we don't have to have a shift before
Christmas sir because that is because the machine they they they can just robot 24 by
itself okay that's sorry and this is another just a small example but this is another element of the
way it works so this is also the way we we really need to innovate are you are you utilizing um
ai tools lm's um to actually do some of the code generation uh as you go along and then
estimating it with the that doesn't see that yes and also not just that in Europe by the way in
Gothenburg we also use a la lamp to you know can not propagate with the site so up here or this type
so we have and this is not the science fiction it's something that people are using an llm
that say hey i want to create a crankshaft with this uh eccentricity can you uh oh by the way
can you also try to optimize so it's a sort of um chatbot but you don't have just the elsewhere
you're busy you're you're you're prompting the the the CAD system instead of going in
and manually drawing everything uh you're you're prompting it and having it optimize the design
and then you can see it produce the drawings yeah annotate the drawing according to the
gili companies and then take into account things like okay i want to minimize the weight
i want to maximize the strength here here's the durability requirement awesome move up
and yeah it fits together and yeah and yeah it's in any facturability there is no push button but
we experience 25 to 30 increase speed and efficiencies so that that to your point of the
way of working that i'm a big fan these are all the things that at the end make a difference and
we have this CAD AI and by the way this is also something to your question that we did in Europe
uh we casted and proved in Europe and now we have people in China that are basically
transferring this technology the entire chile short set that up oh no this description was
interesting because i can absolutely imagine this for all the potential use cases for a user interface
system when you get into things like adas you end up with a much greater university use cases
including the extremely unlikely but non-zero cases how does an a do you use AI for things
like that and the example i use for 15 years is mylar balloons and ceramic toilets so yes
because it was a famous like yeah a conference like us and i mean and those are those are you
know uncommon but extremely possible use cases that we have probably all experienced at some
point in our lives do or something similar the point where an AI is going to be able to say and
by the way you also need to be able to think about these things so there are two part two
that that we are working on on that part one is the adversarial AI
yeah gen generative adversarial so basically we can you explain that basically you have you
would have two different neural networks for example where one does something and then the other one
is it's a different neural network that is testing it running against it
basically trying to break it okay and then when it when something goes wrong i'm going to go back
changes are working on something and i try to mislead you and you try to do the right thing
and the more we interact the more i'm i'm getting very capable to find corner keys to mislead you
and the more you become smart to detect the corner keys and so this is an adversarial network
that you are basically able thank you to really detect this so it basically is basically the AI
training the AI you know if this is started with this generative adversarial neural network
and now we have applied that into our into our space the other thing is that that we are currently
doing on the on this generative AI is really of course and this is common but in gily i think
it's a very very important to really generate automatically a lot of use case so sorry a lot
of data not not use clear a lot of data data clip in order to avoid to really just rely on leveling
from capture data this is creating synthetic data for training and testing and this is the
step on key efforts we are far on there and this is what if you were yesterday to them to the
press conference this is what uh chair will not have lesion guide uh qualified that the AI to
load d so this this side um over the the the the thing that the tools that the approaches that you
are using in europe for software development yeah how much of that came from what was already being
done in china and are your colleagues in china now adopting things that perhaps you pioneered
in europe i think it's a little bit of a mix so in uh we have uh we have uh avid as so for example
like this kadei that basically china is leveraging what we have built and what we are boy so that's
something you pioneered in europe and and now they're we also have they are also very very strong
for obviously is on on uh contamination agent sustainability simulation or this type of things
and this is something that we are borrowing and we are in court but this is of course again it's easy
to say it takes some time and maturity to get but this is the value of this platformization
if was rather than have zika doing this on uh AI stuff and uh and gd the AI stuff now there is
really a common fail to cross pollinate buddha expedix um tell me a little bit about the positioning
of the brands in china and in europe how does each i assume gd is the most mass market brand
zika is the top tell me beyond that so yeah i think the the overall position is that uh
gili is the the mainstream if you wish uh the link it's mostly the the preview huh he's the sporty
he's the the the the uh versatility and and uh flexibility and tone zika is the luxury
he's the mixery file and we have the the top luxury brand so these are basically the three
major tier that we are basically painting our portfolio like that okay so when you will see
when you will go to the boot it will be quite evident because you will see dm9 this open very
typical mainstream car and tone and you will see the z car 9x that is really the top premium
uh super luxury thing all right got it um
is there one vehicle or is it the m9 and the 9x that best shows that differentiation on the
common architectures and they bought they all leverage a common architecture i think the differences
for example you you are gonna remember uh you mentioned edas no for example in the nine nets
you have a uh a gpilot h9 with 1400 uh eflops uh with uh with uh level pre enabled if you wish
that really has a lot of uh key capability five gliders uh uh able to capture 30 centimeter
obstacle in 300 meter if you go to the mainstream clearly you know the level of
capability is less sophisticated they still share uh the same platform but for example the uh m9
doesn't have the dual uh or uh nvidia they have just one and they have 700 pclops so it
it less capability less functionalized um oh oh sorry one more okay bye
we talked this has been great on the software side because it's given me a much better
understanding europe um are there mechanical power train suspension body design things for
europe one thing i noticed just in the ziker excuse me in mojili oh i've heard which one i drove but
the rear doors only opened at about a 45 or 50 degree angle whereas on say a bulb they open to 90
degrees are there more mechanical things that you can point to that differed when european
seam what can i say that especially on the vehicle dynamics there is uh we have a department
that through in france fort actually really focusing on all these vehicle dynamics characteristics
for uh for europe so there is all the calibration tuning and and the ai proactive takes uh from a
overall out there platforms and point uh again if you have concrete example on the nine x so for
example there is the 48 more stabilization bar that is capable to really detect uh one there is a
lot of work around the motion sickness so fusing elements from the sensor from the from the outside
war temperature and thong there is a constant adaptation of the
parameter of the chassis and thong in order to really avoid this motion sickness but there are
also for example in the semi in the nine x three elements such as
i say i'm just going to buy you a rejohn three elements like did the 48 volt bar no it detects
with uh 0.1 millisecond if i'm not wrong when there will be a cycle issue
holding so you get adaptive control of the the wall control with the stabilizer bar
with a 48 volt actuator to uh to help yeah to to optimize the angle for contact point here in
the event of a collision or when you cornering cornering the noia that's dead or even when you
go out of the tunnel and you find a opposite wing is capable to really merge a sensor from
the the temperature in the case wind and automatically counterbalance in order to avoid any any
disruption was that developed in china or europe uh both markets or this is on the
book market because this is part of the pomegranate so um yeah right now um yeah these these brands
zikr link geely not available in north america but as as the the larger group consolidates on
common architectures um do you see a potential for those brands to potentially come into the
north american market and you know obviously you know there's trade issues right now with
bringing products from china uh but as you as you move towards common architectures so
volvo has manufacturing capacity here in the us um you know that is underutilized um is there a
potential to perhaps bring some some of those products and manufacture them gear and bring them
to the north american market so just to be clear i'm not the best lie to answer because i look any
matter more tacky than than uh than says says talk uh but to elaborate a little bit i don't think
there are any from a platform architectures standpoint any any reason not to enter into the
into the us uh is there a no really no official decision no or at least not that i am aware
but i eat me up okay um on the the propulsion side which we haven't talked about very much and
and the the batteries yeah um uh you know where um how do you see that uh evolving uh for for the
zikr group um you know perhaps moving towards uh either moving in the direction of um structural
batteries uh you know sell the pack or sell the body type of architectures or you know um is
something like uh swapping either battery pack swapping or module swapping something that you're
also looking at right now basically in terms of propulsion from a back at a standpoint you're
really investing a lot on this uh lfp uh that basically this bold and what the internally
called bold and two battery uh that basically give us so just to give you an example uh 80
canny 280 at 60 uh in uh that's fast eight minutes 0.5 minute time with 60 uh and it is also water
what do you what do you see already conduction in your car input uh the other uh the other thing
that we are also very and this is uh europe that we somewhat leading it's a little bit this super
hybrid so for example what you have on the nine x it's something that we are quite because it's
it's a path that drives like a path so an extended range ev and that's what you're calling a super
hybrid is an era basically we have a a an ic a p1 and then ic and the p3 and p4 in the in the
the back and the ice ic is linked with only one gear to the to the to the p1 okay so at the low at the
no um philosophy at the low speed he basically helps to really regenerate uh energy and actually
i think it's also quite good i think it's 20 kilowatt hour uh every 30 minutes we'll come
so it is uh getting some mechanical torque from the from the ic to the wheel through the road hybrid
with hybrid on the front as well okay oh okay that's that's like that's so busy that's actually a
european thing that i have seen in other but this is also yeah i'm not sure about other for
federal but this is also from an efficient system point we have on the on the nine x we have a 70
kilowatt battery that gives a 380 plus if you combine with uh with uh with the normal combustion
you go more than 1000 kilometers yeah so this is uh this is an area that we are uh working very very
a messy pair right well i think that's all the questions i have for now john you got anything
else undoubtedly yeah i i do have another appointment in a few minutes um so i really appreciate uh
your time to to talk about all this and whatever whatever yeah yeah so better you'll be near polo
yeah all right thank you the only one i might have is what can you point to a specific success
for a product that the company introduced that has done very well here and perhaps one that did not
do as well as hoped well i think one that went very well is these seven s yeah seven s it really
yeah it has uh exceeded the expectation and we took a lot of lesson learned from the original
zero zero one zero one uh for example this navigation part and all these things are all creation at all
in order to be sure to take the to do the right things since they won and not wait for some
maturation time so i think in terms of success i really pro europe in my experience there may be
other uh the opology i think seven x is for sure and uh and the next car now i cannot
do on the end but the next car that we will announce in a few months i think it will be another i hope
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