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An Actually Usable VW Bus: The Kindred EV Bus — Carmudgeon Ep 241 w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott

An Actually Usable VW Bus: The Kindred EV Bus — Carmudgeon Ep 241 w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott

The Carmudgeon Show Jun 15, 2026 57 min
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About this episode

Kindred Motorworks’ EV VW bus is framed as a transformation from legacy VW bus terror to something genuinely usable. Hosts quantify why the original felt unsafe—“terrifying at 45 miles an hour”—then dig into the conversion: boxed frame reinforcement, a large multi-location battery pack, and a C7 Corvette-based front suspension. Driving impressions emphasize modern highway confidence, DC fast charging at 40 kW, and a glaring omission: “there’s no regen at all.”

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electrification

"our philosophy as we have discussed at various times about electrification is that your best chance of success with electrification is to electrify something where the powertrain the engine the old outgoing internal combustion engine was not a highlight"

Electrification means converting a car so it runs on electricity instead of gasoline. In this discussion, they’re saying conversions are more likely to feel right when the original car wasn’t really about its engine.

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internal combustion engine

"where the powertrain the engine the old outgoing internal combustion engine was not a highlight like Ferrari luce because Ferraris were never about their engine"

An internal combustion engine is the normal gasoline or diesel engine that burns fuel to make power. The hosts are saying that if the original engine wasn’t the best part of the car, switching to electric can work out better.

Car

Ferrari Luce

"...ombustion engine was not a highlight like Ferrari luce because Ferraris were never about their engine of..."

The Ferrari Luce is a Ferrari model mentioned in the podcast. The speaker is saying the engine wasn’t the main thing people should focus on. Instead, they’re pointing to other qualities that make the car interesting.

Car

Volkswagen flat four

"of course not okay gotcha so the pushrod Volkswagen flat four with its robust angry 36 to 44 horsepower is not a motoring motoredom motoring them engine"

This is a type of engine where the cylinders sit flat, like a “boxer” layout. The host is talking about the older Volkswagen air-cooled engine that makes a distinctive sound, but it doesn’t have much power. That low power is a big reason the bus feels under-motivated.

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air-cooled flat four

"so yeah I would say an air-cooled flat four soundtrack is kind of part of the type one type two type three type four Volkswagen experience"

This describes an older-style engine that cools itself using air instead of antifreeze. It also has a flat, sideways layout for the cylinders. The host is saying this engine type is a big part of the classic Volkswagen “feel,” especially in how it sounds and how much power it has.

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Type one

"so yeah I would say an air-cooled flat four soundtrack is kind of part of the type one type two type three type four Volkswagen experience"

Volkswagen used “Type” numbers to group related cars. “Type 1” is basically the Beetle family. The host is using these Type numbers to talk about the classic, older Volkswagen era and how they all feel similar.

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Type two

"so yeah I would say an air-cooled flat four soundtrack is kind of part of the type one type two type three type four Volkswagen experience"

“Type 2” is Volkswagen’s label for the classic Bus/Transporter family. The host is grouping several Volkswagen “Type” families together because they share a similar classic character. Here, it’s especially relevant because they’re talking about a bus.

Car

Volkswagen Golf

"...kswagen win of which there was only one until the golf came out right there was basically one Volkswagen..."

The Volkswagen Golf is a compact car that Volkswagen made to replace older models. It became one of their most common cars, so it’s often mentioned when people talk about Volkswagen’s history. It’s designed for everyday driving rather than being a niche vehicle.

Car

Audi Tt

"but you were you could choose how you wanted your beetle to be it could it be a beetle it could be a karmic gear which is a two plus two Cooper convertible sports car with 30 something horsepower or sports car is in very heavy air quotes I mean it looked like the quotes are so heavy that faster than I am or you can have it in a square back a fast back a notch back or not back there were three backs yeah or a bus and the bus was available"

The Audi TT is a sports car model from Audi. In this part of the conversation, it’s mentioned because the host previously made a video about it. They’re basically saying, “we filmed that other car for the TT episode.”

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square back

"or a square back a fast back a notch back or not back there were three backs yeah or a bus and the bus was available"

This is a specific name for a Volkswagen body shape. “Squareback” usually means the rear looks more upright and boxy, often with a hatch-style layout. The host is listing different classic Volkswagen shapes you could choose from.

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fast back

"or a square back a fast back a notch back or not back there were three backs yeah or a bus and the bus was available"

A “fastback” is a car body shape where the roof slopes down smoothly toward the back. The host is comparing it to other Volkswagen body shapes like “squareback” and “notchback.” It’s basically about the silhouette.

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notch back

"or a square back a fast back a notch back or not back there were three backs yeah or a bus and the bus was available"

A “notchback” is a car shape where the roof and rear end look more separated, like there’s a step or notch. The host is listing different classic Volkswagen body shapes you could get. It’s mainly about how the car’s silhouette is shaped.

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panel van

"or a bus and the bus was available with a pickup bed and like a double cab or a single cab or the bus bus or a panel van which has no windows right"

A “panel van” is a van meant more for cargo than passengers. It usually has fewer windows (especially in the back) so it’s more like a box for carrying things. The host is using it to describe different bus configurations.

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experientially defined

"of all of those I feel like the bus was perhaps the least defined by its engine it was so far away you could barely hear it and feel it it was you mean experientially defined sure and it sort of it was largely insufficient to motivate such a large vehicle"

The host is talking about how a car’s personality comes from how it feels when you drive it, not just the numbers. In this case, the bus is so big and the engine so weak that you notice the lack of power in everyday driving. So the engine’s weakness becomes part of what defines the experience.

Car

Volkswagen Id Buzz

"...es an hour yes um we in your icons that was about id buzz id buzz which was also yellow wasn't it I don't k..."

The Volkswagen ID. Buzz is an electric van. It’s meant to be a practical vehicle for people and cargo, but powered by electricity. The podcast is also pointing out its distinctive color and presence.

Car

beetle

"and a beetle I was actually surprised I think that bus must have been I hesitate to say hot rotted warm rotted uh it was faster than the beetle it was faster than the beetle sedan"

The Volkswagen Beetle is the iconic VW compact with a long-running history and a very recognizable shape. In this segment it’s used as the baseline comparison for how the bus feels and how speed/acceleration compare in real conditions.

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headwind

"and there was a huge headwind and I could do 42 uh actual I think indicated it was 44 and I had the whole crew behind me ...and then there were cars behind me that were blinding me"

A headwind is wind hitting you from the front. It makes it harder for the car to move forward, so you feel slower even if you’re pushing the vehicle hard.

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12 volts

"they switched to 12 volts in 1967 don't quote me on that uh and the six volt ones are even worse even 12 yeah you know they were not exactly they were sealed beams they're terrible"

“12 volts” is the usual electrical system voltage in most cars. It typically powers brighter lights than older 6-volt setups, though the host says these particular headlights still weren’t great.

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six volt

"and I not only are the headlights on that car glow worms um in terms of that light I must have been a six volt they switched to 12 volts in 1967 don't quote me on that uh and the six volt ones are"

“Six volt” means the car’s electrical system runs on 6 volts instead of the more modern 12 volts. Older 6-volt systems often make headlights dimmer and less effective.

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sealed beams

"even worse even 12 yeah even 12 volts you know they were not exactly they were sealed beams they're terrible"

Sealed-beam headlights are older-style headlight units where the bulb and lens are built as one sealed piece. The host is saying these older headlights don’t put out very good light.

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boxing me in

"and I could do 42 uh actual I think indicated it was 44 and I had the whole crew behind me I had one person in front of me who just fucked right off and left me for dead and I'm like you're supposed to be boxing me in so you're protecting me"

“Boxing in” is when cars position themselves to trap another car in a small space. Here it’s used as a joke about how the crew should have helped keep the host from being isolated on the road.

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sidewind

"and then I made a left and went south and that headwind turned into a 40 or 50 mile an hour sidewind I like how cardinal directions suddenly become relevant when you"

A sidewind is wind coming from the side. It can shove the car sideways and make driving feel more difficult, especially for a tall, slow vehicle like a bus.

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120 degrees of lock

"120 degrees of lock on the steering just to get it to go straight and then when the wind would stop momentarily then the car would veer into the shoulder"

Steering lock is how far you can turn the steering wheel before it hits its limit. If the steering has a lot of lock, it can feel harder to keep the car going straight without constantly correcting.

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mileage

"it's amazing that they have accumulated the mileage is that some of them have and that people traveled across the country in them"

Here, “mileage” just means how many miles the vehicle has been driven. The point is that some of these old buses have still racked up a lot of miles.

Concept

100 concentration type of vehicle

"i mean and to think that nobody did it sober either or like not high is amazing because I feel like it's a 100 concentration type of vehicle to operate at any speed you have"

The speaker means this van takes a lot of focus to drive safely. They’re saying you can’t just relax behind the wheel—you have to stay on top of what the vehicle is doing.

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crumple zone

"you are you are the crumple zone and you know the the headlight buckets meaning the rear part of the headlight is protrudes into your knee space"

A crumple zone is the part of a car that’s designed to crumple in a crash. That helps slow down the crash forces instead of them going straight into you.

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headlight buckets

"you are you are the crumple zone and you know the the headlight buckets meaning the rear part of the headlight is protrudes into your knee space basically"

Headlight buckets are the inner housings behind the headlights. On some older cars, those housings can take up space near your knees or feet.

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deluxe

"like the full most luxurious expensive version which was called the deluxe and the deluxe was available with or without the full length roof"

“Deluxe” here means a nicer, more optioned-up version of the VW Bus. It’s the more expensive top trim with extra features.

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full length roof

"the deluxe was available with or without the full length roof and the full length roof always came with these eight little skylight things on the top"

This means the bus has a roof section that runs farther along the van. That lets it have more windows/skylights, which is one of the things that makes certain versions more desirable.

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skylight

"the full length roof always came with these eight little skylight things on the top and that's how you got to the grand total of 23 windows"

A skylight is a window in the roof. In this case, the host is saying the top VW Bus versions have several skylights that add to the overall window look.

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safari windows

"this one has the safari windows which were optional which is the windshields are hinged at the top and can be driven with them open"

“Safari windows” are a special VW Bus window option that can open outward. The idea is to get more fresh air while driving.

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air conditioning

"also these cars were not available with air conditioning so and they weren't fast enough to kill a bug if you hit it anyway"

Air conditioning is what cools the inside of the car. The host is saying this VW Bus version didn’t have it, so it’s more old-school to live with.

Company

Kindred Motorworks

"we got a tour of kindred motorsports this morning works motorworks"

Kindred Motorworks is the shop the hosts visited. They’re the ones working on or building the EV VW Bus discussed in the episode.

Place

mare island

"they're located on mare island which is a small i guess it's a female horse"

Mare Island is a real place in California. The host is saying the shop is located there in old industrial buildings.

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Coyote V8

"in um either of two flavors gas powered it's a coyote v8 in it or electrified and then now their third model is the bus evie um"

“Coyote V8” is a name people use for Ford’s modern V8 engine. In this context, it’s the engine they might put into the bus instead of going electric.

Concept

restored to a high standard

"and so when you find one that has survived well enough to be preserved and restored to a high standard then they end up getting expensive because there's a large number of people who like them and a small number of good survivors"

This is about why some older cars get expensive. If a vehicle survives and is restored really well, there are fewer of them in great condition, and more people want them—so the price rises.

Car

23 window

"this is sort of representative of that right i mean it it is it's 23 window it was not originally a 23 window so yes before all of the pitchforks come out"

“23-window” is a collector term for a Volkswagen Bus with a certain number of side windows. People care because the window layout is part of the classic look, and that look can strongly affect what a bus is worth.

Concept

full restoration of the chassis

"and what they did do and it is effectively a full restoration plus right we'll get there it's much more than a restoration i would say yeah but i mean if yes a complete restoration of the chassis for sure"

“Full restoration of the chassis” means they’re doing serious work on the van’s main structure, not just making it look nice. That matters because the structure is what keeps the car solid and safe over time.

Car

60s bus

"[916.3s] effectively a brand new 60s bus right um the facility is really cool it's a snapped one picture"

They’re talking about a classic 1960s Volkswagen bus. In this project, they keep the bus’s look but rebuild the important parts underneath for an electric conversion.

Term

84 kilowatt hour battery

"[953.5s] amount of structural reinforcement so they're boxing in the the frame rails because they're [958.9s] adding 1200 pounds worth of weight to this car in total um but part of that is batteries it's a [965.3s] oh i forgot already was 84 kilowatt hour battery or 70 74 74 kilowatt hour battery"

kWh is how much electricity the battery can store. A bigger number like 84 kWh usually means more driving range before you have to recharge.

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50 50 weight distribution

"[971.6s] located in three different spots on the car their goal was closer to 50 50 weight distribution [976.1s] we have the scales here we can weigh this we will put the weight on the screen because we haven't done it yet the weight and the weight distribution on the screen"

This is about how the car’s weight is split between the front and back. Closer to 50/50 can help the car feel more balanced and easier to control.

Car

c seven corvette

"[986.4s] just to sort of clean up the handling is what what they told us um the front suspension [993.0s] is largely from the c seven corvette yes um which is kind of wild"

They’re using suspension parts from a C7 Corvette. That’s a big deal because it’s a modern performance setup, and it has to be adapted to fit and work safely under a classic VW bus.

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unitary construction

"[1000.3s] substantial [1000.3s] reinforcements to the chassis to the it's a unitary construction but normally they have c [1005.5s] section uh frame rails and they have boxed them for strength"

Unitary construction means the car’s body and frame are basically one combined structure. That affects how you reinforce it when you add heavy parts like batteries.

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hydraulically assisted rack and pinion

"[1014.4s] basically what i concluded are front and rear subframes and the front subframe carries the [1020.3s] suspension and the brakes and the steering which is a hydraulically assisted rack and pinion [1025.3s] which is not something definitely not that you could get a volkswagen bus in the past"

Rack-and-pinion is a common steering design that turns the wheels using gears. “Hydraulically assisted” means power help is added so steering takes less effort.

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vacuum assisted

"[1025.3s] which is not something definitely not that you could get a volkswagen bus in the past uh and a [1031.2s] huge disc brakes front and rear vacuum assisted which is also so it has a vacuum pump because [1035.8s] it's an eb because so you can't pull vacuum from the engine"

“Vacuum assisted” refers to power braking that uses a vacuum source to boost brake force. The speaker notes an EV-specific constraint: you can’t rely on engine vacuum, so they use a vacuum pump to generate the vacuum needed for the brake booster.

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eb

"[1031.2s] huge disc brakes front and rear vacuum assisted which is also so it has a vacuum pump because [1035.8s] it's an eb because so you can't pull vacuum from the engine uh so dramatically improved front"

“EB” means electric vehicle. Because there’s no gas engine, the car can’t rely on engine vacuum for things like brake boosting, so the conversion adds a pump.

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torsion bars

"torsion bars and spring plates but dramatically upgraded to withstand it's a spring plate it's [1052.6s] like the little thingy that comes out of the back of the torsion bar tube"

Torsion bars are like springy metal rods that work by twisting. They help the wheels move up and down and keep the ride from feeling too bouncy.

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spring plates

"torsion bars and spring plates but dramatically upgraded to withstand it's a spring plate it's [1052.6s] like the little thingy that comes out of the back of the torsion bar tube"

Spring plates are the metal parts that connect the torsion bar to the suspension. When the torsion bar twists, the spring plate moves to help support the car.

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double control arms

"the rear suspension [1069.6s] design looks a lot closer to the original design than the front one does yeah the front is double [1077.0s] control arms"

This means the front wheel is held by two arms instead of just one. Those arms help keep the tire positioned well as the suspension moves.

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bolt pattern

"to go with a heavier and wider spring and then would fit on the corvette arm but i'll see seven [1091.7s] hubs um also yeah so it has a corvette bolt pattern which is kind of wild yes"

The bolt pattern is how the wheel’s bolt holes are laid out. It has to match the car’s hubs or the wheels won’t fit correctly.

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rear subframe

"this one [1097.6s] has 17 inch wheels uh which is required to fit over the brakes um the rear subframe is kind of wild [1105.1s] uh took picture of this too there was kind of a cold cradle"

A subframe is like a smaller frame inside the car that holds key parts. It helps support and mount the drivetrain and suspension components.

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17 inch wheels

"this one [1097.6s] has 17 inch wheels uh which is required to fit over the brakes um the rear subframe is kind of wild"

Wheel size affects whether the wheel can clear the brakes. They’re saying you need 17-inch wheels so the brake parts fit inside the wheel.

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cold cradle

"uh took picture of this too there was kind of a cold cradle [1110.6s] they welded a plate onto what was originally the transmission mount"

They’re using a nickname for the built-in mounting area that helps keep the EV hardware cool. It’s part of how the cooling system is packaged.

Term

single speed gearbox

"subframe mounts to on the leading edge um but it contains um the motor and transmission [1121.8s] known as a single speed gearbox i guess um plus inverter"

An EV can usually use only one gear because the motor pulls strongly at many speeds. That’s what a single-speed gearbox means.

Term

inverter

"known as a single speed gearbox i guess um plus inverter [1130.0s] what what else is the ac pump heat uh heat pump i guess it's not a pump it's not heat pump but it's a uh a heating unit"

The inverter is the electronics box that turns battery power into the right kind of power for the electric motor. It helps control how hard the motor works.

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heat pump

"what what else is the ac pump heat uh [1130.0s] heat pump i guess it's not a pump it's not heat pump but it's a uh a heating unit um and a bunch [1136.5s] of coolant pumps"

A heat pump is a device that can transfer heat to warm the cabin. In EVs, it’s also part of the system that manages temperatures for the motor and electronics.

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coolant pumps

"um and a bunch [1136.5s] of coolant pumps to move all the coolant around a to heat the cabin but b also to heat uh to heat [1142.4s] and cool the motors and the inverter"

Coolant pumps move a liquid through the car’s cooling system. That liquid carries heat away from the motor and electronics and helps the cabin heating/AC work.

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operable

"because there's so much greenhouse area and that's why they have the opening windows the opening roof [1165.6s] and like every single window is operable basically in the thing"

Operable windows can be opened. Opening them can help the cabin breathe and reduce how hot it gets.

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heat rejection

"and i think we might have found the thermal limits [1182.8s] not the thermal limit the limit of rejection heat rejection from that air conditioning system [1187.5s] because it still did get a bit warm in there"

Heat rejection is how well the car can get rid of heat. If it can’t dump enough heat outside, the inside of the bus starts getting hot.

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instantaneous response

"to see it like move off like an ev with the obvious instantaneous response and like the mid-range and like the responsiveness"

It means the car reacts right away when you hit the gas. EVs can do this because they can send power to the wheels very quickly.

Term

torques

"so we should all say it as 300 horsepower yeah 350 torques uh and so it makes it transforms it"

Torque is the force that helps the car pull forward. More torque usually means stronger acceleration, especially from a stop or at low speeds.

Term

0 to 60 test

"we did a 0 to 60 test i'm sorry about that noise i just dropped my phone"

This is a simple acceleration test: how fast the car goes from 0 to 60 mph. Lower time usually means quicker acceleration.

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state of charge

"we test it trapped strapped testing equipment with a 75 ish percent state of charge it was a 7.6 seconds 0 to 60"

State of charge just means how full the battery is. If the battery isn’t very full, the car may not accelerate as strongly.

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watt launch

"if you are doing a full like watt launch with a brake torque the thing doesn't feel like outrageously quick"

They mean a very aggressive “hit the gas hard” start. The car feels less dramatic in everyday driving, but more impressive when you launch it hard.

Term

brake torque

"if you are doing a full like watt launch with a brake torque the thing doesn't feel like outrageously quick"

It means using the brakes while you launch. That can help the car put power to the ground instead of just spinning its wheels.

Term

steering feel

"so yes it is stable on the highway and feels controllable it has you know actually good steering feel and and hydraulic like yeah"

Steering feel is what it’s like to turn the wheel—how heavy or light it feels and how clearly it tells you what the tires are doing. Here they’re saying the bus steers in a way that feels good and controllable.

Term

dead zone

"the brakes have a little bit of initial dead zone and then feel amazing they're just the perfect amount of additional travel to modulate"

A dead zone is a range of pedal or control input where the system response is delayed or muted. The host says the brakes have “a little bit of initial dead zone,” meaning the first part of brake pedal travel doesn’t immediately produce strong deceleration—then the feel improves.

Term

modulate

"they're just the perfect amount of additional travel to modulate a bull incredibly modulatable yep all of it is there"

To modulate means to smoothly and precisely vary input to get a controlled output. The speaker praises the brake pedal’s travel so it’s “incredibly modulatable,” i.e., you can apply exactly the braking force you want without abrupt changes.

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zero to 60

"it's tepid off the line which is why it's zero to 60 doesn't represent what it the real world how it feels"

Zero to 60 is a test of how fast a car accelerates from a stop to 60 mph. They’re saying the bus doesn’t feel quick right at launch, so the test number doesn’t tell the whole story about how it drives.

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steering ratio

"is just a very strange layout it's steering ratio and the assist also dramatically transforms it one of the defining characteristics of driving an old bus is that the steering wheel the steering ratio"

Steering ratio describes how many turns of the steering wheel it takes to turn the wheels. It affects whether steering feels quick and responsive or slow and relaxed—especially noticeable on older buses.

Term

steering is extremely heavy

"[1491.7s] is simultaneously extremely slow yet despite that the steering is extremely heavy uh and and [1497.6s] with all of them neither and the play built in is you will routinely add 180 degrees of sweep"

Heavy steering means it takes a lot of effort to turn the wheel. It can make the car feel harder to drive, especially when parking or making frequent corrections.

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180 degrees of sweep

"with all of them neither and the play built in is you will routinely add 180 degrees of sweep [1504.9s] left to right to keep keep it 90 degrees neither direction it's not atypical um and so the idea"

This is how much you have to turn the steering wheel while driving. “180 degrees of sweep” means the wheel turns a lot from left to right during normal steering inputs.

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10 degrees of play

"the idea [1510.7s] that this has you know 10 degrees of play and then and then actually turns and you're not also [1515.4s] popping a tendon in your elbow to get it to do it is pretty wild"

“Play” means the steering wheel can move a bit before the front wheels really start turning. Less play usually feels more precise and less tiring to drive.

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wind noise

"and aesthetically it has [1524.6s] been preserved almost entirely intact and that means that the windows and wind noise and you [1530.8s] know all that stuff is old present to the counter for you yeah it's old bus experience"

Wind noise is the sound you hear from air moving around the vehicle. If the shape and windows are similar to the original bus, you can still hear that classic old-van wind sound.

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side gust of wind

"yeah there was one pretty strong side gust of wind um that pushed me into the next [1592.6s] lane but I admittedly wasn't paying that much attention and I you know sort of it had lulled [1597.7s] me into a sense of security"

A side gust of wind is when wind hits the car from the side and pushes it sideways. It can make the vehicle feel like it wants to drift, especially at higher speeds.

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50 miles an hour

"but uh transformative experience especially the ability to at 50 miles an hour [1613.1s] where the regular bus would be topping out um to just lay into it and move off and pass someone"

They’re talking about what the van can do around 50 mph. The point is that the EV version still has strong acceleration there, while the older bus would struggle to keep up.

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first gear

"and then like stop again and then you add hills like San Francisco yeah you're doing eight miles an hour in first gear and that's it"

First gear is the lowest gear used for starting and slow driving. The host is saying the bus spends a lot of time in that low-speed mode in city traffic.

Term

CarPlay

"there's a pioneer doubled in carplay unit with nice speakers sounds good works I mean again loud on the highway so you're turning it up quite loud to to hear your music over that"

CarPlay is a way to connect an iPhone to a car’s screen so you can use apps like music and maps while driving. It’s one of the “modern tech” features the hosts are praising here.

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digital instrument cluster

"it also has a digital instrument cluster when we which would be very easy to fuck up would be very easy to fuck up it's very very simple there's no adjustment there's no interacting with it"

A digital instrument cluster is the car’s screen for the speedometer and other gauges instead of traditional needles. The host likes the design but says sunlight can make it difficult to read.

Term

gear slide gear indicator park reversal

"I understand the desire to go to an electric display because now I have a gear slide gear indicator park reversal or which is actually extremely useful that is yeah you kind of need it in an EV"

Even though it’s electric, the car still needs a clear way to choose things like Park and Reverse. The host likes how this bus shows the gear/selection clearly.

Term

power output meter

"to the left of there is a sort of looks like an old ammeter but it's a power output meter from yeah it's probably originally a fuel gauge"

A power output meter is a gauge that tells you how much power the EV is using or sending. The host says it looks like an old analog gauge and may have been adapted from the bus’s original gauge layout.

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LCD screens

"could be a factor of heat because it was just so hot today and LCD screens like to go dim when it's hot but you know"

LCD screens are liquid-crystal displays used in many modern dashboards and infotainment systems. The host points out a common issue: LCDs can dim in hot conditions, which can worsen visibility of critical readouts like speed in bright weather.

Term

DC fast charge

"and can DC fast charge I mean it's got the old SAE connector not the new tesla connector but can charge it 40 kilowatts so you could do a road trip on it"

DC fast charging is the quick way to charge an EV at a charger designed for speed. It’s what makes longer trips practical because you don’t have to wait as long.

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SAE connector

"and can DC fast charge I mean it's got the old SAE connector not the new tesla connector"

A connector is the plug shape your EV uses to charge. The host is saying this bus uses the older SAE-style fast-charging plug instead of Tesla’s plug.

Term

regen

"there's one kind of glaring omission which is there's no regen at all ... you are using the friction brakes quite often in this car which is the first time I've ever experienced that in EV"

Regen is how an EV “slows down and charges at the same time.” Instead of wasting all that slowing-down energy as heat, it sends some of it back to the battery—so you usually get better range in city driving.

Term

7000 foot grade

"oh regen doesn't really all help you all that much unless you're coming down the mountain from like Lake Tahoe okay yes coming down a 7000 foot grade"

A grade is how steep a road is. The host is saying regen can be useful on a long, steep downhill because the car has more chances to slow down and turn that motion into battery charging.

Term

friction brakes

"because there's no regen at all ... you are using the friction brakes quite often in this car"

Friction brakes are the normal brakes that stop the car by squeezing pads against discs. The host is saying this EV ends up using those brakes a lot because it doesn’t have regen.

Concept

real world economy of an EV

"just for those who have never owned or paid attention to the sort of real world economy of an EV but I mean your expectations for is the opposite relationship"

“Real world economy” here means how efficiently an EV uses energy in everyday driving conditions, not just on a constant-speed test. The host contrasts EV behavior in city driving (where regen can help) versus highway cruising (where constant speed limits opportunities to recover energy).

Term

range anxiety

"but strange oversight right I mean well and I think everyone has range anxiety certainly this is a obviously a sort of indulgent frivolous or like a toy type purchase and so maybe range anxiety is not going to be as much of a concern but that would certainly meaningfully improve range in the city"

Range anxiety is when EV drivers worry they won’t have enough battery to finish their trip. It’s basically the fear of running out before they can find a charger. If the EV can go farther in real driving, that worry goes down.

Term

DC fast charging

"it from a technological standpoint it should be relatively straightforward to incorporate yeah it would be so if the battery pack can deal with 40 kilowatt DC fast charging"

DC fast charging is a high-speed way to charge an EV at a charger that can push a lot of power into the battery. It’s faster than plugging into a regular outlet or slower home charger. The car has to be able to accept that power for it to work quickly.

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anti-lock brakes

"we talked about this when we drove the sacrilege 911 is that without having stability control and anti-lock brakes you then would have the risk of locking up the rears in when it's slippery out"

Anti-lock brakes (ABS) stop the wheels from locking up when you brake hard. If wheels lock, you can’t steer as well and the car can slide. ABS helps the car keep grip so you can stay more controllable.

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stability control

"we talked about this when we drove the sacrilege 911 is that without having stability control and anti-lock brakes you then would have the risk of locking up the rears in when it's slippery out"

Stability control is a safety feature that helps the car stay on track when the road is slippery or you’re turning hard. If the car starts to slide or rotate the wrong way, it can intervene automatically. Without it, it’s easier to lose control.

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locking up the rears

"without having stability control and anti-lock brakes you then would have the risk of locking up the rears in when it's slippery out"

Locking up the rears means the back wheels lose grip and start sliding instead of rolling. On slippery roads, that can make the car spin or feel out of control. Systems like ABS help prevent this.

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analog tile style knobs

"so there are some beautiful controls on the dash of this car like you know there's a beautiful analog tile style knobs right"

They’re talking about real physical knobs on the dashboard instead of only touchscreen or button menus. Physical controls can be quicker to adjust while driving. In an EV, that can include changing how strong the regen braking feels.

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digital dash

"and one is a volume control which I love that it has this digital dash that would otherwise have push button up and down"

A digital dash is the driver’s gauge cluster shown on a screen. It can display lots of information and can be customized by the car. EVs often use it to show battery and charging-related info.

Car

Bronco

"cool yeah I think there's the overlap also with the Bronco was interesting to observe firsthand as we saw them in various stages of construction but what they have basically done is repurposed a"

The Ford Bronco is a rugged 4x4 SUV built for off-road driving. Here, they’re talking about borrowing Bronco components and layout ideas to help build an electric version more efficiently.

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four-wheel drive

"what they have basically done is repurposed a lot of so the Broncos four-wheel drive so it has a motor at the front and the rear and they have"

Four-wheel drive means the car can send power to all four wheels. It helps the vehicle grip better, especially on dirt, snow, or rough ground.

Concept

serviceability

"it's like okay this is a mass production in the sense that the holes on the subframes are all in the same place and you're not like modifying stuff to get it to fit together exactly and that's part of part of the well that feeds into serviceability right you need to be able to"

Serviceability is how easy it is to fix the car when something breaks. If parts are designed to bolt in the same way every time, repairs are faster and less complicated.

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HVAC

"so this they developed one HVAC solution and then this car has a custom air box but the same the fan and whatever else is the same as they're using"

HVAC is the car’s heating and air-conditioning system. It’s what keeps the cabin comfortable, and here they’re saying they standardized that system across vehicles.

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air box

"so this they developed one HVAC solution and then this car has a custom air box but the same the fan and whatever else is the same as they're using"

An air box is an intake/ducting enclosure that routes airflow to components like the HVAC system or engine-related air paths. In this segment, it’s called out as a custom piece while other HVAC components (like the fan) remain shared.

Car

Porsche 911

"there's another car coming which is announced good Porsche 911 Porsche 911 and EV Porsche 911 [2227.4s] another EV Porsche 911 so lots of people are making EV Porsche 911s"

The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car from Porsche, known for its distinctive engine setup. Here, they’re talking about an EV version and how it changes what makes the 911 feel like a 911.

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drum brakes

"which was that it was intended for someone whose description I don't personally fit I'm willing to put up with the bullshit of driving a 50s car with drum brakes or a stinky 911"

Drum brakes are an older type of brake where pads press against the inside of a drum. They can fade more easily than newer brakes when you brake hard over and over.

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catalysts

"or a stinky 911 that you know has no catalysts from choose any decade really with a carburetor"

Catalysts are emissions-control parts in the exhaust that reduce pollution. Without them, the car can smell worse and emit more harmful gases.

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carburetor

"choose any decade really with a carburetor that will react differently every single time you started yeah press the gas"

A carburetor is an older way to mix fuel and air for the engine. It can make the car feel less consistent than modern fuel-injection systems.

Car

e-golf

"maybe the ultimate daily and it like something that's a fun substitute to an e-golf you'd have to have a huge for me I'd have to have a huge huge huge amount of money"

The Volkswagen e-Golf is an electric Golf. They’re using it as the kind of EV you’d actually consider as a normal daily, then contrasting it with how expensive an electric 911 would be.

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cabriolet

"and that car was a cabriolet that was a tiptronic and that made that helped me come to terms because it deserved to be killed"

A cabriolet is a convertible—its roof can open up. The hosts mention it because it’s a specific kind of Porsche body style, not just “any 911.”

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tiptronic

"and that car was a cabriolet that was a tiptronic and that made that helped me come to terms because it deserved to be killed"

Tiptronic is an automatic transmission that lets you choose gears yourself if you want. It’s basically “automatic with manual control,” and it’s part of the car’s specific spec they’re describing.

Concept

turning this into an EV

"or and only some particular cars right I'm no one's upset to chop up a bus I didn't really chop it up but you know what I mean no but it's irreversibly altered to be sure yeah but no one's gonna be upset about turning this into an EV fine someone will use it great"

They’re talking about converting a regular car into an electric car. Instead of using the original engine and transmission, you swap in an electric motor and battery so the car can still be driven.

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rusty shell

"helps to know that it wasn't originally a 23 window so you know you're like well if it was going to be a rusty shell someplace anywhere then"

A “rusty shell” is basically a car body that’s been eaten by rust. People might still buy it if the important parts can be repaired, but it’s not a complete, clean car anymore.

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structural integrity

"because all that the only thing that matters is that it has good structural integrity and is straight and isn't rusty beyond the level that they can effectively repair"

Structural integrity means the car’s body is still solid and not bent or badly rusted. If the frame/body is too far gone, the project usually isn’t worth saving.

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gauge cluster

"we talked about the gauge cluster uh what else do you have what do you the way it sits"

The gauge cluster is the dashboard display the driver uses for things like speed and battery/charging info. On electric cars it often shows how much power you’re using and how regen is working. The host is including it in their critique.

Term

stance

"yeah again springs or torsion bars so i mean i guess you can you can probably always adjust it i don't know if that's there's a maximum um but uh that's about it"

“Stance” is how the car sits—basically whether the front and rear look level or if one end is lower. The host is saying the back of the EV bus looks too low compared to the front. They think suspension setup (or limits on adjustment) is the cause.

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17s

"but uh that's about it the aesthetics of the 17s are the thing that really give away that it's altered"

“17s” are wheels that are 17 inches in diameter. Changing wheel size usually changes the tire’s sidewall thickness, which can change both how the car looks and whether parts like brakes fit. The host thinks the wheel size is the giveaway that the setup isn’t stock.

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aspect ratio

"if i could have a higher aspect ratio with a smaller diameter wheel i would like that you know if the brakes don't fit then the brakes don't fit"

Tire aspect ratio is how tall the tire’s sidewall is compared to its width. Taller sidewalls can look and ride differently than shorter ones. The host is saying they’d prefer a tire setup that keeps the proportions closer to what they want.

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overheating the front brakes

"if you are going down a long grade and you did need to drag the brakes the whole way down you will be overheating the front brakes while you're doing that"

Brakes can overheat when you use them a lot for a long time, like going down a steep hill. When that happens, braking performance can drop (brake fade). The host is saying that if the EV can’t use regen enough, the front brakes may get too hot.

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kilowatts

"care of with 40 or 50 even 30 kilowatts worth of braking power you're leaving those brakes ice cold"

A kilowatt is a way to measure power—how hard the car is working. Saying “30 kilowatts” is like saying the brakes are capable of doing a certain amount of work per second.

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braking power

"care of with 40 or 50 even 30 kilowatts worth of braking power you're leaving those brakes ice cold"

“Braking power” just means how strongly the car can slow down when you press the brake. If the brakes are cold, they may not work as effectively right away, so the car may feel different until everything warms up.

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g

"it was feeling concerned it was fine it was totally four tenths of a g three tenths i mean whatever it was it was totally fine"

“g” is a unit for how hard the car is pulling—like how strong the acceleration feels compared to gravity. “Three tenths of a g” means it’s using about 30% of the acceleration you’d get from gravity.

Term

cognitive dissonance

"it's just that there's a lot of cognitive dissonance in this thing and i guess that's sort of if i had to sum it up"

The host is describing a mental mismatch: your brain expects a big, slow bus, but the vehicle behaves more like a normal car. That can make you feel like you should be worried even when everything is actually fine.

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draggy

"i have my draggy with me i'll do it zero to 60 and i'll do a quarter mile run"

“Draggy” is a little GPS gadget that measures how fast your car accelerates and how quickly it reaches certain speeds. It helps you get real numbers instead of guessing.

Concept

EV

"obviously this product will really impress people who would never buy a genuine original one uh but uh want the experience it's so certainly that's their target customer"

EV means electric vehicle. Instead of using gas, it runs on an electric motor powered by a battery.

Concept

philosophy of choosing to focus on consumers who conceptually like the idea of an old car but in practice it's not a fit

"so i mean i think it's an interesting concept i i think that their philosophy of sort of choosing to focus on consumers who conceptually like the idea of an old car but in practice it's not a fit for their mechanical inclinations or tolerance for bullshit or fumes"

They’re talking about who the product is really for: people who love the idea of an old car, but don’t want the hassle of owning one. The EV conversion is meant to remove those practical problems.

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fumes

"an old car but in practice it's not a fit for their mechanical inclinations or tolerance for bullshit or fumes or lack of air conditioning or you know headrests seem to be an important consideration"

“Fumes” means the exhaust smell and emissions from gas engines. The point is that an EV avoids that downside.

Term

brake fluid flush

"i often forget about i have to admit forget how expensive it can be to maintain an old car and i i don't mean just repair i'm just maintenance stuff where i think oh well let's just you know like just do a brake fluid flush"

A brake fluid flush is when the old brake fluid is drained and replaced. It helps keep the brakes working consistently because brake fluid can wear out and pick up moisture.

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pads and rotors

"and you know maybe throw us out of pads and rotors at it and just you know normal stuff and people like no no my guy wants 3000 dollars to do that okay"

Brake pads and rotors are the parts that stop the car. Pads clamp onto the rotors, and both can wear out over time.

Concept

dynamically deficient

"you got to choose something that's really dynamically deficient so there's a huge benefit to be gained by improving the experience"

“Dynamically deficient” means the car doesn’t feel right or doesn’t respond well in driving. The hosts are saying that if a car is weak in some way, fixing that weakness can make it a lot better to live with.

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horsepower

"maybe we can do a whole episode about a hundred horsepower to how depending on how much weight yes first one i'm thinking like zero to 60"

Horsepower is a number that roughly describes how strong the engine is. More horsepower generally helps a car accelerate and climb hills more easily.

Term

rev it to 8 000 rpm

"especially when the engine was cold and i wasn't willing to rev it to 8 000 rpm so if i applied a 5000 rpm limit to it"

RPM (revolutions per minute) is how fast the engine spins, and 8,000 RPM is a high engine speed where many engines produce more power. The host is describing how limiting RPM (not revving it hard) can make a slow car feel even worse when climbing hills or when the engine is cold.

Term

5000 rpm limit

"so if i applied a 5000 rpm limit to it there were the street right by where you live that was that 15 that was 17th 17th street 15 miles an hour"

An RPM limit means you’re not letting the engine spin as fast as it wants. That usually reduces power, so the car struggles more to accelerate, especially uphill.

Term

10 seconds to 60

"in our geographical region 10 seconds to 60 is kind of the minimum threshold for you minimum threshold to really not think it's not that you can't right"

They’re talking about how long it takes to reach 60 mph. Their point is that if it’s around 10 seconds or slower, you may feel like you have to plan your driving more to stay safe and keep moving in traffic.

Car

Porsche 356

"because the thing's turning 4500 rpm and so like alfa romeo juliet as i like this Porsche 356 is Porsche 912 all of these sort of like 100 horsepower ish"

The Porsche 356 is an old Porsche sports car. It’s the kind of car that can feel fun and quick at lower speeds, but at higher speeds it may not have much “go” left.

Car

912 Porsche 912

"...e alfa romeo juliet as i like this Porsche 356 is Porsche 912 all of these sort of like 100 horsepower ish or y..."

The Porsche 912 is an older Porsche sports car. In the podcast, it’s being compared to other classic cars with around 100 horsepower. The point is that it’s meant to be enjoyable and lightweight rather than extremely powerful.

Term

four speed

"four speed carbureted cars from the 50s and 60s and probably like as you move down market into the 70s like triumphs and stuff like that"

“Four-speed” means the car has four forward gears. With fewer gears, it can be harder to keep the engine in its best power range at highway speeds.

Term

carbureted

"four speed carbureted cars from the 50s and 60s and probably like as you move down market into the 70s like triumphs and stuff like that"

“Carbureted” means the engine uses a carburetor to blend fuel with air. Older cars often used this instead of modern fuel injection.

Car

Datsun 240Z

"...tuff like triumphs and it's amazing how much of a 240z even i like this four speed 240z yeah it's amazin..."

The Datsun 240Z is an older sports car that people still talk about today. The podcast mentions a four-speed version, meaning it’s a manual transmission. It’s considered impressive for how much driving fun you can get from a car like this.

Car

e30 touring

"i think that's part of the reason why i i don't feel like my cars are all that slow right i mean i just did i had my e30 touring at uh at wednesday night drags last night um and sonoma raceway"

The BMW E30 Touring is an older BMW 3 Series wagon. The host is talking about using his E30 Touring for drag racing and measuring its times.

Place

Sonoma raceway

"i had my e30 touring at uh at wednesday night drags last night um and sonoma raceway you mean sunday night drags because it's monday morning"

Sonoma Raceway is a racing track in California. The host is talking about drag-racing there and how the track’s run distance changes the test results.

Term

eighth mile run

"they have not announced it but changed it to an eighth mile run um and i feel like they should give us half of our money back because we're only using half the track"

In drag racing, an “eighth mile” is a shorter race distance than the quarter-mile. Since it’s shorter, the car doesn’t have as much time to build speed.

Term

quarter mile time

"i don't really give a fuck about an eighth mile but i bought my draggy with me i think it was in my bag from last week's shoot and i was like i'll put it in i'll just keep my foot in it and get a quarter mile time"

A “quarter mile time” is how long it takes a car to go 1/4 mile in a drag race. It’s a common way people compare how fast cars accelerate.

Term

Dragy

"but i bought my draggy with me i think it was in my bag from last week's shoot and i was like i'll put it in i'll just keep my foot in it and get a quarter mile time"

Dragy is a small gadget that uses GPS to measure how fast a car accelerates and how long timed runs take. It helps you get consistent numbers without relying only on track timing.

Term

gearing

"at all and or on a back road [3197.8s] at all because of gearing right that car at 100 not much left it will still do 130 but you know"

Gearing is how the transmission “multiplies” the engine’s effort. Shorter gearing helps you move off and accelerate at low speeds, but it can limit how easily the car speeds up at higher speeds.

Term

chip

"from second to third like second cannot even with a chip in it that lets it rev 500 rpm [3223.9s] past where it did from the factory um i can't even get to 60 in second gear"

A “chip” here means a modification to the car’s engine computer. It can change how the engine runs, but it won’t magically fix problems caused by the car’s gear ratios.

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torque multiplication

"first of all you have the build in the sound of an engine you know makes it feel like it's faster [3234.5s] than it really is but also you have torque multiplication from the gearing and it actually [3237.7s] does squirt across an intersection"

Torque multiplication means the transmission can make the engine’s twisting force stronger at the wheels. That’s why lower gears help you launch and accelerate quickly from a stop or slow speed.

Term

drive stick

"and will require maintenance and [3311.9s] as a pain in the ass and is leaking oil and and you have to be able to drive stick um or you can"

“Drive stick” means using a manual transmission. You have to shift gears yourself instead of letting an automatic do it.

Concept

electrifying the right thing

"so reinforcing yet again the philosophy about electrifying the right thing is really a good idea it has to be something that has a lot of room for dynamic improvement uh and in which the powertrain is not a central part of the character"

This is the idea that not every car is a good candidate for an EV conversion. The hosts are saying you should electrify cars where the electric setup can improve the driving experience without ruining what makes the car fun in the first place.

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powertrain

"the philosophy about electrifying the right thing is really a good idea it has to be something that has a lot of room for dynamic improvement uh and in which the powertrain is not a central part of the character"

The powertrain is what actually makes the car move. In a gas car it’s the engine and related parts; in an EV it’s the electric motor and its control system.

Term

suspension

"it was a fully modern suspension front and rear fully modern LS engine um i guess moderately modern at this point um with a supercharger on it"

Suspension is what connects the wheels to the car and helps the tires stay planted. Better suspension can make the car ride smoother and handle more confidently.

Term

LS engine

"this car was had nothing to do with the transam and it was a fully modern suspension front and rear fully modern LS engine um i guess moderately modern at this point"

“LS engine” refers to General Motors’ LS-family V8 engines (most commonly the small-block V8 used in many swaps). They’re popular because they’re compact, make good power, and have strong aftermarket support for upgrades like forced induction and modern fuel injection.

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supercharger

"fully modern suspension front and rear fully modern LS engine um i guess moderately modern at this point um with a supercharger on it new it was it was not it was it was built recently"

A supercharger is a device that forces extra air into the engine. That extra air helps the engine make more power.

Term

fuel injection

"it was built recently but it's still you know of the modern fuel injection and such um and i didn't have any problem with uh the suspension and brakes being upgraded"

Fuel injection is how the engine gets fuel. Instead of a carburetor, it uses electronically controlled injectors to deliver the right amount of fuel at the right time.

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