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I guess I'm going bonus episode crazy because this is another one within two weeks.
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I think this is the third one because last week I had one on Wednesday and then one on
00:23
Friday and then now this morning.
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I decided to do a bonus episode today in lieu of the Subi Scoop because I wanted to get this
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episode out as soon as possible before we get too far away from the end of Overland Expo.
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I had Joe on from Subaru again because we talked about Overland Expo before the events
00:47
and then now I wanted to have a wrap up and get his thoughts on his overall experience
00:54
of Overland Expo after all of them were completed.
00:59
So that's what this conversation is, is just me and Joe talking about Overland Expo and
01:03
the overall experience.
01:05
What his takeaway was, feedback that he received, feedback that I got and then what my experience
01:12
was and just kind of an overall general wrap up of the whole event.
01:19
And so we're looking forward to Overland Expo next year.
01:23
This is going to be really fun and we talk about some things that they are looking to
01:28
do differently and to potentially add.
01:31
So there's some ideas that are going on and then there's going to be some brainstorming
01:36
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01:44
But before we get into the episode, I want to just say a few things.
01:48
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01:51
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But anyway, enough of all of this.
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We'll go ahead and get started with this conversation that I had with Joe from Subaru
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Yeah, happy Halloween to you too.
04:41
We missed you, Joe.
04:46
It was so bummed I couldn't be there for the last hurrah.
04:50
Yeah, Virginia was actually really good.
04:54
In some ways and other ways the event as a whole was kind of, I don't know, it
05:01
was like, I know it wasn't as big, not as many vendors and everything.
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So that was different.
05:09
So it was definitely the lowest attended event out of the series, which I kind of
05:14
knew going into it.
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So I wasn't super surprised by that.
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But I don't know if it's more or less than last year.
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I don't have those metrics yet.
05:27
Let's talk Overland Expo.
05:30
Yeah, so I mainly just wanted to ask you about like, so take it back to the
05:36
beginning of before even the pilot last year of like when you started even
05:43
thinking about considering Overland Expo.
05:47
How did all that come about to even go last year and do the pilot?
05:54
So early 2024, I guess it was.
05:58
We had a few ambassadors approach, Sean and myself, and essentially ask if we
06:05
could help support them to attend the event and have some sort of Subaru presence.
06:12
So that's really what kicked off the conversation was a few select ambassadors
06:16
that brought it to our attention, gave us a little rundown of what the event was.
06:20
And, you know, it kind of took off from there.
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So what kind of planning did you have to do for last year when you did the pilot?
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And where was that again?
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The pilot was in the Pacific Northwest location in Redmond, Oregon.
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And we were just really casual attendees at that point.
06:41
So we selected a small booth space just like any other consumer.
06:45
And we worked with the ambassadors to map out which cars would come,
06:49
how we would display them in the space.
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And, you know, what kind of giveaways we wanted to provide consumers as they came
06:56
through, which was great in theory.
06:58
But when we got there, the space was way smaller than we expected.
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And we ended up like cramming way more into this little space than we wanted to.
07:07
And things like shade structures that we all thought were going to be perfect
07:11
and look great just were a total failure.
07:13
So it was definitely like a scramble to the last second of that one.
07:17
But all good learnings, right?
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That's the name of the game.
07:22
Yeah. So what was it about the pilot that made you decide, OK,
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we can do this in 2025 and make it work?
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We saw a ton of dogs, like a ridiculous amount of dogs.
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So I think that was indicator number one that we really needed to be there
07:38
just because of the sheer amount of dogs that we're running around.
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And then so many people kind of taken off guard by the presence of Subaru there.
07:50
And specifically the way the vehicles were accessorized and equipped.
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I think just really took them took them off guard because they really weren't
07:59
thinking about Subaru in that way.
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They weren't expecting to see a Subaru outfit in overland gear.
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And so when they saw them and they got to talk to the owners of those vehicles,
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you know, we saw some real magic unfold between the different consumers.
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And that was a clear indicator.
08:14
We just send more people to get in front of. Yeah. Yeah.
08:19
So then what kind of like planning and preparations went into effect for 2025
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and getting on the, I guess, like the roster for being at each of the events?
08:31
You know, a lot of conversations with Overline Expo,
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once they found out that we were interested in joining as a title sponsor,
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they were pretty much reaching out weekly, just trying to see how they could help us
08:42
walking through the different booth options at each stop
08:45
and just trying to come up with a plan on how we would we would show up.
08:50
But then that led to the discussion of how are we going to support the event itself?
08:54
Like it can't just be me and a few others showing up, trying to set up
08:58
this entire space and experience.
09:01
So we had to go look for a vendor that we thought would be good
09:05
at these types of experiential events.
09:08
And one that we thought could really take our vision and transform it into reality.
09:13
So that led us to an RFP process where we put some bids out for a few different partners.
09:18
And ultimately, G7 was our winning partner that had the best vision,
09:22
the best idea, and we knew could bring everything to life.
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Had y'all worked with G7 before or was this the first time?
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That was our first, yeah, first time.
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How do you feel that they did overall with the event
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through the year and the different locations?
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I mean, the the structures that we had in place at the event
09:48
were really difficult to transport and assemble.
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So the fact that they were able to bring these on site
09:54
and make them look perfect each and every time, I was really blown away by that.
09:59
And even the craftsmanship that went into the the materials
10:03
and all the the display items, you could just tell a lot of thought
10:06
and care was put behind it.
10:07
So that in itself was was a huge win.
10:10
And then the staff, all really hardworking,
10:13
went above and beyond for everybody.
10:16
And any time there was a suggestion or any sort of feedback
10:19
to improve it after each stop, they just jumped at revising the plan
10:24
and seeing what they could do to make the experience better for us.
10:27
Yeah, they did a really good job.
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I mean, everything that was set up there,
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like you said, the structures and then the just the craftsmanship
10:35
and the way that everything looked, everything looks so nice.
10:39
And I got a lot of really good feedback from people
10:42
asking them, you know, what they thought of the setup and everything.
10:45
And so everybody was like really impressed with it.
10:48
And I think one of the biggest things that most people liked about it
10:52
was how big the space is and how welcoming and inviting everybody
10:57
everybody was and how friendly everybody was, too.
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It was a really a nice surprise for people as they walked through
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we asked to go from a sea of pop-up tents and teardrop flags
11:08
and then come across this really warm, welcoming space with people
11:13
that, you know, really wanted you to come in and enjoy everything that we had to offer.
11:18
Yeah, and it wasn't, you know, it wasn't salesy.
11:20
It wasn't like, hey, come look at these Subarus.
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How can we get you into one?
11:25
It was it seemed like it was mostly just wanting to have genuine
11:29
conversations with people about Subarus.
11:32
And of course, I know that there were people there like Ursula and John
11:35
who were talking to people specifically about, you know,
11:40
their interest in Subaru and they did a really good job of providing
11:44
information, answering questions and getting the people that had
11:49
more curiosity about Subaru to learn a lot more.
11:52
And, you know, hopefully some some of that got converted into some sales over time.
11:58
You know, having the the product specialists were
12:03
was so helpful because people ask a lot of technical questions about the products.
12:08
This event more so than others.
12:10
And it was really important that we had subject matter experts that could
12:14
speak to all these technical questions that came up.
12:18
Yeah, and I want to say thank you for having me and the podcast there
12:23
because that was it was a total surprise to me because, you know,
12:27
there was that was kind of going on behind the scenes.
12:29
And then you emailed me and said, hey, I want to talk to you about this
12:33
opportunity and told me about it.
12:35
And I'm glad that I was able to participate in four of the five
12:39
events and locations and had an opportunity to meet a lot of people
12:43
and get a lot of good feedback.
12:45
And so I'm glad and very thankful that you had me be a part of that.
12:49
And I'm glad that I was able to help out, you know, in any way that I could.
12:54
Not for our pleasure and thank you for spending so much time with us.
12:57
I think it was a bit experimental this year and how we integrated
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the podcast component. I mean, really, everything was experimental.
13:04
But I think in general, it worked out really well.
13:07
You're you being able to interact with the consumers and talk to them
13:10
naturally and capture stories.
13:12
And as we look to next year, like figuring out ways that we can elevate
13:15
that and give you the right tools and the right platform
13:18
to to take another level, I think would be a great interest for us.
13:23
Yeah, as far as the event as a whole, like, what is your take away from it?
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Like, how do you feel that everything went
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stuck from, you know, because you started off in California
13:35
and you didn't end up going to Virginia.
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But for all the stops that you did make it to and then any feedback
13:41
feedback that you got, you know, what is your take away from it all?
13:45
We're all very pleased with how the event series went.
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We were surprised by just how many people showed up to California,
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I don't think we were expecting the attendance that that shook out.
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I believe they had over 19,000 people at that stop.
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Yeah, those around 19,000 people.
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So for being a new location at a new venue, I mean, that was just
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mind blowing and our booth was next to an entrance.
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So we had a ton of traffic, which was which is solid.
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So we are excited about that location next year and how they evolve it.
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We'd love to see if we could add on a camping component
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since that wasn't available last year, but there's definitely some options there.
14:31
But yeah, overall, every stop impressed us with the crowds,
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with the the engagement from consumers.
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We really enjoyed the live programming that we had at each stop
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with the music and food.
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People loved that and that definitely drew a lot.
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A lot of people in after hours, which is great to see.
14:53
The owner vehicles were such a hit in having real Subaru customers
14:58
there with their products and their their personal vehicles.
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And the the opportunity for them to speak with
15:06
other Subaru owners or competitive owners that were that were shopping
15:10
for a new Subaru, I mean, that was just so invaluable
15:13
because they brought so much interest in and passion and knowledge
15:18
to the table that you just can't replicate that.
15:20
Otherwise, you know, it's it's just not the same.
15:24
So that was that was great.
15:25
And back to the camping part, it was four stops, the four other stops
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where we did have camping attached to it.
15:33
Those were really successful in that it brought a nice community
15:37
of Subaru owners together, some of which never had met before.
15:40
And so they had an opportunity to make new friends and learn new ways
15:44
to use their Subaru on the excursions that we did.
15:47
And all of those had WhatsApp threads attached to them.
15:50
And those threads are still going today.
15:52
And we still see conversations going back between people.
15:56
And that's what it's all about, bringing other owners together
15:58
and and allowing them to to share their lessons and their best practices
16:04
for for overlanding in their Subaru.
16:06
That that was one of our key goals.
16:07
And the camping one hundred percent facilitated that.
16:11
So very stoked about how that unfolded.
16:14
In general, like there wasn't many negatives.
16:17
I think we're going to work with Overland Expo for some better booth
16:20
placement at a few of the other stops, Colorado and even East, for example.
16:26
We feel like there's a better spot for us to be just to have more
16:30
presence and better accessibility.
16:33
So that will be a big push as we look ahead.
16:36
But otherwise, yeah, I think everything really exceeded expectations.
16:40
A hundred, I believe a hundred thousand people total
16:44
attended all five Expo's collectively.
16:47
So the exposure and the brand awareness we were able to achieve
16:51
was was really incredible.
16:53
And, you know, we track leads and sales.
16:57
We usually like to look at six months a year after the event
17:00
to track our personal journeys.
17:02
So we don't have any concrete metrics yet on vehicle sales.
17:05
But that's something that we'll be analyzing over the coming months.
17:09
How do you all calculate that and track that at an at an event like that?
17:14
You know, so the QR code that consumers scan.
17:19
Oh, yeah, participate in the scratch off game.
17:23
They gave us, you know, a few pieces of information about
17:25
themselves, which is all held confidentially and securely.
17:29
But we're actually able to use our lead management tool to
17:34
essentially track whether or not that anonymized person went and bought a car.
17:40
So if you scan that QR code, I don't know your first and last name.
17:43
I don't know any of your information, but I know that you're a person
17:46
that went to my event and then I can actually see if you went and bought
17:49
a Subaru or I can actually see if you went and bought a competitive vehicle.
17:53
Nice, really valuable.
17:54
And they can even tell us like you bought a Toyota, which tells us, wow,
17:58
we like lost somebody to a Toyota that attended our event.
18:04
So it's really cool to see those reports after the fact.
18:07
And like I said, it's usually six months to a year that we'd like to map
18:10
that journey, because not everybody's in the market for a car right away.
18:15
But it's a really cool tool.
18:16
Yeah. And going back to Camp Subaru for me, it was I think that was
18:22
a really, really good move on Subaru to attract just, you know,
18:28
everyday like daily driver people to this event, because there was
18:33
a lot of people that I ended up meeting and I know other people met
18:36
that came to the event and like you said, didn't know other people,
18:41
didn't really know that there was a community, and then didn't know
18:44
that you could do these things with your Subarus, because there was
18:47
a lot of people that just had a completely stock Subaru and then
18:51
they find all these other people that are doing all these crazy mods
18:55
and just enjoying it.
18:57
But I think a lot of people ended up making a lot of good friends there
19:02
and doing that was such a great way to just bring community, you know,
19:07
together and bring people together and just have a good time and show them
19:11
like, this is what Subaru is all about.
19:13
This is what the community is about.
19:14
And this is what Subaru of America is about, because it doesn't seem
19:18
like there's a lot of other car brands that do those kinds of things.
19:21
And I think that's what helps Subaru stand apart from others.
19:25
Yes, that's well said.
19:27
The community aspects, everything, and we are so fortunate to have four great
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groups of people that got along, supported each other, helped each other out,
19:38
and we're camping for multiple days outside the comforts of home.
19:46
And it all just went so smoothly.
19:49
One of the thoughts that somebody had, and I think it was in Virginia,
19:54
maybe, I can't remember, or it may have been Colorado.
19:58
I think it was, I think it wasn't.
20:00
Yeah, it was in Virginia because they ended up putting a lot of chairs together
20:05
in a big circle right outside the camp.
20:08
And we did like a thing on Friday night.
20:13
I think it was Friday, no, Saturday night where Paloma was like asking people to
20:18
share stories about their Subaru's, you know, like funny stories.
20:22
And then it was close to Halloween, so some people were like dressed up a little bit.
20:28
She was asking people to share like, hey, you know, what was like your craziest
20:32
outfit for Halloween or something like that.
20:34
So that was really cool.
20:35
But then somebody said that maybe to help bring people together even more like that is
20:41
like bring up big blow-up screen and do like a movie night and, you know,
20:46
have popcorn or something like that.
20:48
Just another way to bring all the campers together all at once.
20:51
Because I know there were kind of like pockets of people here and there,
20:54
depending on the event.
20:55
Because I know at Flagstaff, it was kind of like that.
20:59
But that was just something that I heard that I thought was really nice.
21:02
And a way to like bring them together even more is to do a movie night
21:06
or some kind of games or something like that.
21:09
You agree that we heard that feedback the most.
21:11
And for next year, that's probably the primary improvement.
21:15
We want to implement for the camping is some communal amenities,
21:19
like tables and chairs that they can sit around and socialize since not every venue
21:26
that we're at had picnic tables that we can leverage.
21:28
You know, some locations it was just a field and we had to make do with whatever people brought.
21:34
So definitely going to consider communal spaces and like you said,
21:38
some activities at night to bring people together to kind of add some other elements
21:43
or all easy things to do and super impactful.
21:46
Yeah. As far as the, I still don't like to call it a booth because it doesn't feel like a booth.
21:53
As far as like this space in the area that Subaru had set up,
21:57
do y'all have some ideas of ways that you want to or things that you want to do
22:01
differently for next year?
22:02
And I mean, does this mean that there definitely is going to be a next year?
22:08
Like 90% confident there'll be a next year.
22:13
Are there any like drastic budgetary constraints or changes?
22:16
Yeah. That's my thought.
22:19
So now, but to answer your main question, I would love to create a like a second level
22:27
space to really elevate the owner's lounge to really serve a couple purposes.
22:34
One, it creates some visibility for people from afar.
22:39
If they don't know where our booth is or where we're stationed within the expo,
22:44
it'll be a clear, high structure of some sort to hopefully draw them in.
22:49
Kind of like a gnocchi and tires had across from us with the rooftop thing.
22:54
Because then it also creates a space where people can hang out up there
22:57
and observe the expo, which is a pretty nice vantage point.
23:02
So that secondary level in some way shape or form is probably the one main idea.
23:09
And then we also want to figure out ways we can incorporate
23:12
some Subaru LUPS Earths programming in some way.
23:15
Because we had love pets pretty well covered with the dog adoption.
23:18
And but now you were trying to think of how can we bring in the other pillars
23:22
and represent in some way.
23:25
So those are the main things.
23:26
Shade structures definitely a challenge at some of the events with the hot sun.
23:32
So we're looking for ways to provide shade to the consumer.
23:34
So they're not so baked out there, especially if you're attending one of the workshops.
23:40
And they're sitting in the direct sun for a half hour.
23:43
It's not a great experience.
23:45
Yeah, I know that the stage itself had a canopy on top,
23:49
but it was more decorative than functional because it had the sides were open
23:55
and the front and back were open.
23:56
So it didn't provide a lot of shade.
23:58
So if there's a way to like have the shade expand out past the actual footprint of it,
24:05
that would be good.
24:07
One of the venues they've rented outdoor umbrellas, I think it was a P&W.
24:11
That was P&W, that was nice.
24:13
That worked out good.
24:14
So something similar to that where it's portable, easy to deploy,
24:19
you know, not something that's not super invasive in terms of blocking the views
24:23
and the flow, I think that's what we're going to try to go for.
24:27
Yeah, yeah, that's nice.
24:29
Is there anything else you want to share about the overall experience
24:32
and like what your other takeaways are or thoughts might be?
24:40
Yeah, I guess for the camping experiences, we paired most of those with some off-road
24:45
adventures, which predominantly went really well.
24:47
And I think for next year, we're going to try to further curate those drives
24:52
so that no matter which drive people go on, it has a great view, some sort of lunch component.
24:59
And it's not overly taxing.
25:01
One of the drives in Colorado is like a six-hour experience and people were just
25:06
So we want to avoid situations like that and just make sure it's a meaningful adventure,
25:11
but it's not too intense and there's multiple components other than just being in your car,
25:18
going over obstacles for multiple hours, right?
25:21
So that's going to be a big focus as we explore those adventures.
25:28
And then also maybe finding ways to involve the retailers a little bit more.
25:32
I mean, we invited all the stores that were local to come and attend if they wanted,
25:37
but there's opportunity for them to sell their accessories on site.
25:41
So we could experiment with that or a retailer maybe has a small collection
25:47
of some of the best overland accessories that we're selling and
25:50
people can take them away same day, which is what a lot of the other vendors are offering.
25:55
Yeah. Yeah, that's good.
25:56
Yeah. And as far as like the excursions and everything, I know in Virginia,
26:02
the expo had a hard cutoff time of six o'clock.
26:07
And so we were rushed to get back there because we were all going to stop and eat
26:12
some lunch, the ones that went on the Skyline Drive, but we didn't have time to stop.
26:18
And so we ended up all meeting up after the drive and then making our way over to the expo.
26:24
And then there were some other people that were doing the other off-road trail and they ended
26:30
up getting there after six o'clock, but they were given a pretty hard time about actually
26:35
getting in because they didn't get there before six o'clock.
26:40
Yeah, that's a good point.
26:42
That six o'clock rule was kind of loosey-goosey at times.
26:46
Some venues, we were rolling in at 10 p.m. and there was nobody there to even check us in.
26:51
And other venues, like he said, they were super strict about the check-in time.
26:57
And so the access, the passes, the badges, all the credential stuff, that was often really
27:03
cumbersome for us to distribute to attendees. So as part of the contract for next year,
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we're going to look for ways to streamline that as much as possible.
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And I think one of our requests is to maybe get some leniency around the arrival time
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and when the campers absolutely have to be checked in because it just restricts us.
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And in many ways, it seems kind of pointless since we're there to help the campers,
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we'll get them into the proper campsite, we'll get them set up.
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We don't really need much assistance with getting them on site.
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And we paid for our stuff, man, let us in.
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And we paid for our stuff, yeah.
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Hey, can I borrow your lanyard?
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It's to be fair, the contracts with OEX for this year were kind of all a cart
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because we built it as we went and it wasn't really all clear at the beginning what exactly
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we wanted to do from a camping and a food and beverage perspective.
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So now that we know how it all works and how it's structured,
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we're going to essentially go to them and be like, this is what we want,
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this menu of things for all five stops. And we want it to be super turnkey.
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So what can you do for us, right?
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Yeah, yeah, that'll be good.
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And I didn't know that until we got to Virginia because there was a few of us that
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didn't have because I know at the other events that we went to, we got there
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and you just handed us lanyards and then the parking pass.
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And when we got there to Virginia, they didn't have those for us,
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so they had to go purchase them at the OEX booth.
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And so like, oh, I didn't know that they didn't already have some for everybody.
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So a little learning experience for me too.
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In some places, parking was free. Others, it wasn't.
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Some, we could purchase parking passes in advance.
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Others, we couldn't.
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It was like really fragmented.
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So all those little things, we want to clean up and make it as streamlined.
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Like ideally, I want to wristband for all of our people,
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whether you're camping in the booth, working the booth, whatever,
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just one all-access wristband that gets you parking into the booth,
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into the camping, like no questions asked.
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Like that is your golden ticket.
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That would just make it so much easier across the border.
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So I had a good time.
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I mean, it was a lot of fun.
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It was great seeing you at all the events that you were at.
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It was great seeing Milton and Kerry and then Troy, the G7 team.
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And at the end of Virginia, it was bittersweet because you feel like you're getting to know
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these people and I was always looking forward to the next event.
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And then it's like, there's not another one after this.
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But it was a lot of fun.
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Again, just thank you so much for including me in the podcast
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and Milton and Kerry and Troy to be able to go to all the events.
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We all thank you very much and thank Subaru and everybody else that was involved
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because you all made it a great experience for us.
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And we're just very, very glad to be a part of all of it.
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You make the magic happen.
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So we're happy to support it.
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How was the bed and breakfast that you were at?
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It was actually really nice.
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So I've never stayed at a bed and breakfast and I've seen them in movies and stuff
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and I just thought, oh man, there's going to be one bathroom for everybody to share.
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But every room had its own bathroom.
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So it was really nice with bathroom, shower, everything.
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So it was a great experience.
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Really that and one other B&B were the only options in close proximity to the venue.
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So yeah, that was a gamble, but glad that was good.
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Then from your perspective, I know we talked about different tweaks and changes along the way,
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but for next year, if you want to be part of this, are there any
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changes that you would really want to be top of mind?
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The things that I saw is in the owner lounge, how you had the photos and little bios up of
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some of the owner vehicles that were there.
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I was thinking if we could do something like that for the podcast.
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So it was because since I'm part of the event, if people walk into the owner lounge,
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they can see that like, you know, because I know we had talked about it before.
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I think in P&W, we talked about it before we went to Colorado and then Virginia,
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but to have more of like a visual presence of the podcast being there.
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And so like in Colorado, I was on the sandwich board, which was really nice.
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And then there was another sandwich board that had like the podcast logo on it and stuff.
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So just more of a visual presence, I think for me would be good.
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So next year, planning will start probably as soon as next week with G7,
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and we're going to have a preliminary discussion.
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And then after Thanksgiving, we'll have a workshop where we really start to solidify
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you know, what we're thinking and what changes we're going to implement and all that good stuff.
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So November, end of November, just like December,
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time is when we'll probably start to bring you into some conversations.
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Yeah, I'm looking forward to having conversations and brainstorming and
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you know, with you and G7 and whoever else may be involved and see how we can make it even
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And I mean, even with all the things that, you know, were a bit of a challenge for this year
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overall, I mean, everybody was extremely pleased with Subaru's presence there,
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first of all, because there were people that would come by and say that they came to
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Overland Expo because they knew Subaru was going to be there and they owned a Subaru.
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And then there were people that said, oh, I didn't know Subaru was going to be here.
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And I was very pleasantly surprised.
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I'm so glad to see you here.
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That's a great thing, right?
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Everyone's pretty positive when they see us.
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Yeah, which is not always the case for brand.
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So happy to be associated with a brand that has that, you know, that impression.
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And there was, I still use it, but I was using it through all the bonus episodes that I did.
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But there was a gentleman that I talked to at PNW and he had retired the weekend before.
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He was 72, bought his first Subaru for the first time and he called it a Subaru Oasis.
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And ever since then, that's the term that I like to use for it, you know?
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He said it perfectly because of how welcomed he felt and owning a Subaru for the first time.
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I think he'd had it for like four months or something or six months and
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was just raving about it.
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And then, you know, that was just, that was such a fun conversation to have with him.
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Yeah, a lot of first-timers.
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We met a lot of first-time owners.
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That was pretty sweet.
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Get their perspective on things.
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Anything else you want to add?
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No, I think that's the bulk of it.
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Well, the rest comes to mind, I'll send it to you.
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But those are the big takeaways.
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Well, thanks for, you know, doing this little wrap-up of Overland Expo 2025.
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Thank you everybody for tuning in to another Subi and you podcast bonus episode.
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And thank you so much, Joe, for taking time out of your day to record with me
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and chat about your overall experience and thoughts on Overland Expo 2025.
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I'm excited to see what's going to happen next year
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and how things will be done differently.
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And what type of owner vehicles they will have out there.
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And then, of course, the camping experience.
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And if you attended and you're listening to this,
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it was, you know, it was great to meet everybody.
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It was great to have the experience overall.
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And I'm so glad, as I know many other people are,
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that Subaru was at Overland Expo because Subaru belongs there
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and hope to see them there for many years to come.
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So overall, great experience.
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So glad I was able to be able to be a part of it.
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And as well as the other people that were going to all of the events.
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And it was just such a fun, fun, fun experience.
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And if you haven't attended Overland Expo before
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and you are able to make it next year,
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I highly, highly recommend going.
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It's such a great event and a great,
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the venues are great and vendors are great.
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And of course, Subaru being there is awesome too.
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So thank you all so much.
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