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Hello and welcome to a bonus episode of the AutoCar podcast,

My Week in Cars. It's not My Week in Cars. It's not AutoCar Meets either. It's Meets AutoCar,

maybe. But Steve Cropley is here as usual. Hello, Stephen. Hello, mate. I'm also delighted to

say that we're joined by AutoCar's news editor, Will Rimmel. Hello, Will. Hello. Welcome to the

show, mate. Thank you very much. Will's got lots to tell us about the new all electric,

all singing, all dancing, may not sing or dance Ferrari, which we'll come on to in a minute.

Meantime, I need to tell you that this podcast is sponsored as the My Week in Cars pod is sponsored

by Anderson, the design-led EV charging company. Go to Anderson-EV.com. They are running an offer

throughout this month where if you buy lots of extras, you get £100 off them.

There you go, Will. There you go, Will. Get stuck into that, mate.

Are you a driveway now? Have you run an EV?

I've got a just today, actually, my Audi Q6 e-tron's just gone back my long term.

Oh, really? Yeah. Goodbye is coming soon. And I have got a Prius now, so I plug in.

Oh, that's good. I'm glad. And it's red. And it's got my initials on the number plate.

Is it? It's awesome. Yeah, it's just outside the rear.

How do you find running one without an AM charger?

It's a faff, but I actually like driving EVs. I drive really nicely. They're really smooth.

So it's weird. So I live in Southampton. My nearest charger is like a 10-minute walk.

So if it's raining in the morning, it can maybe be a bit down, but at least it's fresh.

And it's not too expensive. It's like 49 per kilowatt, kilowatt hour overnight. So yeah, it's

fine. Oh, and you can park it overnight then? Yeah, if there's not someone parking like an old

fiesta in the parking space, then I'm good. But yeah, I'd rather have a driveway and a home charger

or I can charge it. I think a friend was charging at 7p a night at the minute.

I sent 7p a kilowatt hour overnight, which is great. Yeah, that is good.

Steve needs to be doing that next. I do, mate. I do.

He needs to phone Anderson and talk to their concierge service.

How sponsor offers a concierge service where you can talk to them about getting cheap power.

And I have been meaning to it for, well, a year. Yeah.

As a long-term listener, Steve, I'm aware.

Let's do a quick later from Tony in Somerset, who says,

I was listening to Steve's conversation with Carl Ludwigson, which was one of our

auto car meets recently, I think. Yeah, a while ago, yeah.

About his book on supercharging in which Steve recounted his first experience of driving a

forced induction vehicle, a Saab 99 Turbo. Do you remember? I see my memory, mate. I

forgotten you're mentioning that already. But you remember that vividly.

Yeah, I don't think I drained on to it, Carl, about it.

Tony says, I still remember my first experience. It was in the mid-90s and a friend's Montego

Turbo. The experience led to my next car purchase being a 1990 Renault 21 Turbo,

which I thoroughly enjoyed for the four years I had it. I also remember Matt commenting that his

Audi A2 seemed to struggle to get the same MPG when the weather was wet as dry. I find this with

my Montego the theory is that it's dragged from pushing the water out of the way. I don't think

it has to be noticeable standing water before the tyres are doing more work and therefore

requiring more energy to move them along just a thought. I think that's probably, yes, that

plus denser air as well. I think air is more dense when it's wet than when it's dry, I guess.

I don't think he passed off like that. Yeah, the really technical size of it is great.

So this pod listener, we're going to interview Will, effectively, because he has been abroad

to see the interior of the new upcoming electric Ferrari, which lands when?

Reveal for reveal in May. When we say the outside. But you've seen the inside.

See the inside? Because, and listen, if you don't know, Ferrari is doing a three-stage

reveal because it's Ferrari. Back in October, Cody Felix Page, our deputy editor, went to

Maranello to see the powertrain. So we learned about the powertrains, going to have a thousand brake,

which it's Ferrari, isn't it? Full-wheel drive. Full-wheel drive, yeah, quad motor.

And then I went out to San Francisco last week, just got over the jet lag, to go see the interior.

But it wasn't like Camille. It was lots of different stations of things. Right. But yes,

the one across there. And then in May, full reveal. So we're going to see the exterior,

and that's going to be at Maranello again in May. Okay. Yeah, then we think on the road next year,

I think is what we're looking at. And a four-door? Four-seater. Four-door, four-seat duty. Okay.

Not a supercar. Okay. It's important. They said it's not a supercar. They made this point.

They went, it's not a supercar. So a brand new line of cars, yeah. So a new architecture,

presumably. Yeah, the spoke platform. There was a four-door back in the day, wasn't there,

called a pin-in, remember that? Uh, vaguely. Possibly not. My memory is. It goes back in history.

Hang on, hang on, Steven. Oh, look it up. I'll be a man looking at your computer on the internet.

He does make you wonder about, you know, Ferrari have been so loyal to pin-in

for Rena, haven't they? It's a, it's quite a thing to give this thing over to a British designer.

Yeah, I think that's one of the main things about this, isn't it? Yes, I got it. Tell me who, who

has designed it? So it's, it's, um, it's very 2026, isn't it? So the designer is, uh, well,

the designer firm is called Love From, and that's been founded by the old Apple design

boss, Johnny Ive. Okay. So yeah, it's, I don't think 10 years ago, we'd have said, oh, Ferrari,

you're going to let the guy who's designed the iPhone, the iPad, the Apple Watch,

designed their first ever electric car. Um, but he has, and he's done the interior,

he's doing the exterior, but he's done the exterior, we haven't seen it yet.

So he's done the outside as well? Yeah. Wow, that's going to be interesting.

Yeah, so Fabio Manzoni, I was speaking to him as well about it, and he seems really chill.

He's the design director? Design boss of Ferrari, yeah. And he seems really chill about it. I think

he's quite happy to have a bit of work on his plate from, from what he was telling me. Um,

but they all seem really happy with it, and we haven't seen the exterior yet. Um, but I can come

to the exterior a bit later on because we've got some, some good stuff from, from Johnny on that.

I managed to kind of politely corner him as a fellow Brit, and he was happy to tell me something.

Is it, do we know how tall it is? Is it SUV-ish, or is it more CT?

So we've seen some spy shots, which, uh, again, they said to plug it, if you go on the website

from October time, we've got some images up, but they're very clad, as in

lots of coverings on the car. Pin bags? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, but we think it's going to be

Porosangui kind of height. Okay. It looks quite junky. Um, and he said to me when I was talking

to him about it, that it's going to be big and junky. So I'm expecting, well, well,

Ferrari don't do SUVs, do they? SUVs. No, what do they call the, what do they call the Porosangui?

A Ferrari, don't you think? Oh, that's it. Yeah, which if you call it an SUV in front of any of

them, they kind of give you a bit of a slight, I don't know what you're talking about. Yes,

like going to the Navy and calling one of their ships a boat. I don't like it very much. Yeah.

Did you find, did you find it shocking? Cause when I saw your pics or the pics that you've,

we've just run now, that was not what I was expecting. That was, it's, it's pretty conventional

really. I, you know, I would have said, it goes back a few years. Are the outside or the inside?

Inside. Inside. Sorry. The views that we've got are just of the, of the facial and the

instrumentation. The pictures we've got online at the minute, they're all CGI's from Ferrari and they

are, listen, I'm sorry, they're awful. They're so, so bad. Um, but we do have some our own pics on

there as well, which look a lot better. Um, and yeah, it's, so when again, when you hear that

the designer's going to be the guy who does, who created the first iPhone

and up to what 2020 he was there. So iPad, Apple watch, I thought the, the, what was it, the

six 39 inch screen in the GLC, the Merc GLC is going to look old style compared to that. It's

going to be just touch screens. It's going to be that. And no, it's not, it's a 10 inch screen

at the front, loads of physical controls, a three spoke wheel. So round dials we've got,

it's beautiful. Yeah. I'm just showing Steve a picture of it now, because obviously we're

on a pod and we're talking about things you can see which is never good.

Works brilliantly on radio. There are, but on the vid that you've done,

as well as it's not just the renderings there, is that you've actually touched the physical

bits. So in terms of the feel and quality, perceived quality, does it feel a high grade?

Oh, really? We've been having this debate in the office all day of the people saying,

oh, it looks so, it doesn't look great, doesn't it miss? And I'm the one there going,

but it feels amazing. Everything, all the touch points. So when you have a look online listener

at our pictures, there is the center console and it looks like black plastic. It is, it is all glass.

It's the same glass you have on your iPhone, your phones. So you have the shiny bits and you have

the matted bits and the quality just feels money. It just feels like I'm spending X amount on the

car and that's what I'd expect. Everything just feels expensive and I think I use the word clickable

too much in the video, but it feels clickable. All the two paddles that manage the talk just feel

like you're really doing something. Everything feels like it has a purpose and I really like that.

And Johnny Ives was telling me that the switches on the center console, so at the bottom of the

center console, center console, central screen, there are one, two, four switches that control

temperature and stuff, but he said they all feel differently when you use them. I was just using a

the screen didn't work, but I could feel it if it didn't feel like that to me. But in the actual car,

if you do feel it and everything feels different, the whole point is you don't have to look away from

the ropes, which is really cool. I love that kind of overengineered detail. Yeah, because he's,

because when you tell somebody it's been designed by the guy who did the iPhone or iPod,

everybody's going to be thinking, oh, no, it's all going to be screen, but he says not. No, he,

no, again, one of the things I was talking to him about was about that. I said, you're the iPhone

designer, what are the screens? Yeah. And obviously, there's a screen in the middle because it's a

modern car and you need to have that central screen. But he said, if it was me back then,

I would always think that quote, I because I would never have done that. Touch screens should not be

used as the central point of contact in a car. And I found that really interesting because he

said to the iPhone was created to solve a problem that was you want to have was a calculator, a

phone, a notepad, a typewriter, everything in the palm of your hand. But he said, transferring that

to a car doesn't solve a problem. So it's just a thing in a car. And he takes your and he says

that you kept saying about it again, which was really interesting. Takes your eyes away from

the road. Yeah, which he loves strikes. He's got that 250 Europa, which is what he based the

some of the interior on. Yeah. And so he's a car guy. And he likes physical controls,

he likes staring at the road when he's driving. And he doesn't want to be looking at a screen when

he's driving around. So yeah, I was really surprised to go back to what you was saying, Steve.

It does look really classical. Three spokes. I don't like, sorry, we're looking at a picture

again, listener. I don't like as Ferrari do the two buttons for the indicators on the steering wheel.

Yeah. I remember when we drove a Model 3 a couple of years ago, when they just bought that out on

the Tesla. Yeah, on the Tesla. Yeah, I'm glad they've undone that. Yeah, same. So again, I asked

him about a stalk and the stalk didn't look clean enough. Oh, really? Yeah, so that's why they didn't

do it. But at least, at least with this, there is a one indicator on each side of the wheel,

whereas with the Tesla one is above the other, which is really poor. Yeah, but this is at least,

they're on the horizontal spokes. Yeah, they are. It's a clean looking wheel, though, isn't it?

Especially, I mean, Ferrari puts a lot on their steering wheels, usually. It's clean. And also,

it's anodized aluminium everywhere. Oh, nice. So it's, if you don't have a case on your iPhone,

you'll see around the edge of the iPhone. And you know at the bottom, I'm getting out a phone,

which isn't an iPhone, but just for purposes. On the sides, they normally have, you can see the

screws putting in at the bottom. They've got that on the steering wheel. So you can see the precision.

They were saying it's like watchmaking. Yeah. So, and again, it sounds like I've

driven the Kool-Aid a little bit. I kind of have, because I've touched it and I think it's

really, really cool. But the precision and the detail, and I think it just feels and looks really

cool. Yeah, because then, well, I was going to say, there is a risk, Steve, if you just look at the

pictures alone, you could see, does that really look high? You know, because anodized aluminium

can look like shiny plastic, you know, plastic, can't it? Yes. Yeah. So, Steve, I interrupted you.

Well, did you get the feeling that this was entirely his own visualisation,

or the whole agency's visualisation? I mean, to what extent would Ferrari

briefed him in the first place? So, I asked that question, which makes me happy that you've asked

that as well, because they're on the right lines. And I think, how do I phrase it? I asked if,

so when he went to Ferrari, Ferrari interviewed them. I'll go around. No, they interviewed

Ferrari about it, which I found really interesting. Given, obviously, it's Ferrari. And I said, you

did six months work to start with, when you came back with those designs, how much did

they change to the final? So, they went away, did their own thing, came back to Ferrari and

presented these designs. His love from? Yeah, his love from presented their designs to Ferrari,

hasn't changed. Oh, really? Yeah, I think it's been smoothed a bit, but the fundamentals were the

same. Was there anybody seconded to them from Ferrari at the time, do you know? So, it was just

completely independently done. Of course, it's amazingly, sort of generous, almost, of Ferrari

to allow that, well, but then also they can hands off go. It's nice. This cynical side of me says

that much for me. Yeah. And I suppose it is a big change of gear, isn't it? It is a big, you know,

so they needed to signal inside and out that it is just very different. They were saying,

I was only saying that now it's, it's a cut, so instead of it being a Ferrari that's electric,

no way, instead of being an electric Ferrari, it's now a Ferrari that happens to be electric,

because if they would have put an interior in, like the new Testerosa, I just don't think it

would have worked, because it would have felt like it was pretending to be something else.

And now that interior, when you're in there, just feels a bit like it's something completely new,

it's completely different, but it's really analog. And I like that side of it. Yeah,

the picture certainly, did you see seats and things? Yeah. So seats are brand new as well.

Big one piece design. I think I said in the video, they smell really nice. And I stand by that,

they smell really, really nice. They feel cool. I didn't get to sit in them because they were quite,

there's not really touching them really. So of course, in the video, I touched them a lot

and posed them. But it was my favorite bit, because I'm just looking through pictures as we speak,

was that binnacle on the back of the wheel. So it's the instrument cluster, and it's connected

to the steering column. So when you move it, it moves with it. So you should always have a proper

view, because I hate modern cars. I had this in my Audi, where I get my perfect seating position,

look up, and I can only see half the instrument cluster, because the wheel's in the way.

This one is meant to eradicate that because you can move it in its days. But listen, when you

look online and you see the pictures, it looks like three dials around black plastic. It's actually

two wafer thin OLED screens, which in the most over-engineered Ferrari way. The top one is a

screen, has three dials cut out. The bottom screen underneath it is then the three dials.

They didn't want to do it as one for some reason. And then they've put

glass over each of the dials to make it look like they're analog, but they're digital and

they can be changed. But the needle is physical. No way. Yes, the needle is physical. So that

binnacle was made up of eight bits sandwiched together. It's incredibly over-engineered.

So listen, in the center, the front row center, where you would expect a rev counter or a speedo,

it does have a speedo in this. And so it's got a needle, which is a real physical needle.

And then the display behind it is a screen. What are the other dials? So left dial is all

about electric stuff. So that'll be your regen, your range, etc. Oh, no, not your range. I can

see the fuel in the middle. So it'll just be your regen and basically your regen or anything

electric yet. And on the right can be anything from tyre pressure to g-force to anything

to do with performance, I suppose. Did you desire it? Did you like it? I need to see the

exterior, Steve. Because it looks cool. But again, with what Ferrari have done is because we had

four individual stations, we were seeing it. It wasn't as one mule. So you couldn't see it

all together really. And when I've seen those CGI images, I don't think it looks as good

in the cabin. I think individually, they're really cool pieces. But yeah.

Tell us about Johnny Eiff. I've never spoken to the guy. What's he like? So I was speaking,

what do you think of someone? Someone recently that I or someone was speaking to said that

their claim to fame as well was getting a one-to-one with Johnny Eiff. And I found this out after

spending five, 10 minutes with him in the corner of this room just chatting about England.

His entire PR team were English as well, or entire most of PR team are English as well,

which was really nice, especially I was in San Francisco for this listener. So it was a nice

change of pace to hear some English speakers for that. And he's really nervous. Really? Really.

When he was speaking to us, he came across like he isn't PR trained at all, which was great for me.

That's remarkable, isn't it? I remember seeing him talking to us, and he turned around with

an espresso in hand, his hand shaking, really nervous. And this is the guy who's designed

probably the most influential piece of technology that we've seen ever. And he was just

very nervous and really easy to talk to, which I liked. But he lost cars, which again was

made it quite easy. You were going to tell us about the exterior? Oh yeah. So I asked him about,

as any journalist does, they're like, we're not talking about the exterior, not talking about

the exterior. I was like, okay, Ferrari PR, that's fine. They've walked away. I then go up to Johnny

and say, Johnny, talk to me about the exterior. Because he's designing it as well. And the interior,

he keeps saying it's going to be singular, the entire thing. So the interior and the exterior.

So this is quite radical. This is quite a wild one for Ferrari. How's the exterior going to be?

And he said, I'm really anxious to show everyone. I'm really anxious. And he was physically quite

shaky. I suppose he's anxious about the interior as well. But I think with the exterior, I think

because it's Ferrari, and because everyone has an opinion on the car, it's not like an iPhone.

This is going to be a $500,000 car, we think. So yeah, quite a lot of money.

And for people to see this and have this name attached to it, he seems really nervous. He says

it's going to be big, chunky. It's going to have similar design kind of cues to this. So

radiator, things like that. But four doors, which is cool. Four seats. And if it's slightly

classically designed like the interior, that's pretty nice. Yeah. I wonder if it's more pressure

to do a Ferrari car than it is to do an Apple car. That's probably why they canned it. Yeah,

yeah. No, I completely agree. Yeah. Well, let's hope there's a few 250 GTE influences in the thing.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that would be no bad thing. But it's not a bad thing.

Half a million dollars ish. Ish, I think, yeah. But then the, I'm saying this as someone who

doesn't have half a million dollars and never buy it. I buy it for the key. The key is very,

very cool. So again, it is, sorry, I'm using my hands listener, so it's great for radio

and podcast. It's quite small, but it's aluminium on the side, glass on the front.

It's yellow Ferrari. And as soon as you put it into this innovative bit of tech,

they've got called a key holder. Amazing. Yeah, I know who didn't know that. Of course,

of course, I know. On the center console, you put it in, it's magnetic. And then you click it down,

the yellow on the key disappears and it gets transferred to the drive selector,

which has made a glass. And then it's Ferrari said it's transferring the power from the key

to the power to the car. I thought it was really cool. And I've really drunk the Kool-Aid. I really

have. I can hear it myself. And then the drive selector is just, oh, it's so

heavy. It's a tiny thing. It's like a tiny knobble, made of glass, but it just feels.

Does it feel okay in your hand? It's kind of up to like my second finger when I'm going down,

but it just feels so money. It feels so premium. It feels like I've spent a lot of money on a car.

And I like that. They called it a key ceremony. So that says everything, doesn't it?

Yeah, but also, I mean, you say you've drunk the Kool-Aid, but there is something quite sensible

in the key no longer lighting up and the car does. So you know, you get an instant

thing of knowing what state the car is in. You have to search the dashboard for a little green

light that says ready. There's a pinky yellow thing that goes, well, now this is on.

And there's two cup holders, which you don't have to put your key into as well,

which is great because I really hate modern cars where I've got two cup holders,

but really only one cup holder because my key is off the time.

Yes, agreed. Will, this is your podcast debut. So what car do you drive?

My home car.

Q&A for the year.

I can't wait to trip up on some of these.

That's right, I've only got one.

Okay, so my car is an E89 Z4. It's a, oh, it's a TESMI.

We changed it?

This is one much TESMI. I think it's a 2.5, it's 2.5 straight six. It's the 23i. So the first one

they brought out, the best sounding one and the cheapest one. And then they ditched it for a four

pop. So.

Oh, yes, okay. But you've got the six.

Yeah. And I say I drive it, but my wife drives it every day.

Is that turbocharged or is that naturally aspirated?

It's nice.

Yeah, it's nice.

Rather cemetery or?

It's got really nice low end torque.

Yeah.

It's so nice.

Does the hood work? Because last time I was speaking to you, it was a bit...

Oh, yeah. So a couple of years ago. Yeah, because I asked you to put a call out on the pod

and someone got in touch and told me about something.

Yeah, that didn't help me, but thank you for ever came in.

I really appreciate it.

No, so I took it to a specialist last year, whose name I forgot and which are really bad about.

But it was near just not the Petersville.

So it's not your way.

And yeah, they fixed it for about a third of the cost.

Oh, I remember you talking about this.

There was some monster cost, official cost, wasn't it?

Oh my God. Yeah.

So I took it to BMW and they went, yeah, about five.

I was like five grand.

Five thousand pounds to fix the hood.

To fix the hood because they said that the motor had gone.

It was common.

Right.

I took it to these guys and they went, oh, yeah, the motor's gone.

That will go properly in a few years.

But for now, we can just do this.

I thought I'm on a journalist salary.

That sounds great.

That sounds better.

I'll do that, please.

And that was last year.

So I probably should think about the other thing, but then it hasn't gone on yet.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

If it is a problem.

So hopefully if I end up selling this in a few years, no one's listening to this podcast.

Yeah, just don't say anything.

Just third one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I can finally buy my catering that I've never going to use and then end up selling

because it's too wet in this country.

Have you seen catering?

Listen to catering today have just sort of facelifted might be overstating it.

They are now offering the 620R style grill as the standard fitment to the seven.

There is a new range of paints and you get body colored lamp bulbs, not bulbs,

bowls, bowls, and a body colored roll bar and stuff like that.

But you can also have some of the old stuff as a no cost price.

You can tell you're a professional presenter because that was an unplanned segue.

That was a completely unplanned segue.

I was never mentioned catering last second.

There are pictures on that, on the AutoCar website and on the AutoCar socials.

And catering accepts no responsibility for the distractions caused by the catering

configurator.

Any time lost during working hours or with loved ones is the individual's sole responsibility.

That's very good.

Well done, catering.

Which I spend far too much time on.

Yeah, I'm afraid I do a bit as well.

Just before we stop, just tell us about your job.

You are responsible for the news section in the front of the magazine.

Plus, it's been off onto the website.

I'd say how my job is viewed from outside and inside are very different.

Inside I'm the guy who's always pestering people who are going on launches and jobs for,

if you're talking to anyone, please let me know and I'll send you some questions.

Or please do this many words because I need it for the magazine.

Don't come back without a story.

Yeah, basically.

My job is so varied.

Yeah, so as you know, Steve, and you Matt as well, the amount we're weekly.

So trying to get the pages filled every week is you want it to be the best it can.

You want the stories to be something that I, if I wasn't working here, I'd pick up and buy.

And I think that is sometimes, it's a blessing and a curse because it means that stuff that you

might normally put on there you won't because you're a bit proud of what you want to put in there.

Yes.

But it's really nice to do something that I just had myself there.

No, sorry. I was just refreshing the page to see how many views your videos had in the first hour.

So carry on, carry on.

Yeah, so it's just a lot of, it's amazing.

Sorry, I feel like I'm saying this very piecemeal.

It's amazing how much in the last couple of years, I've been in this job two years

and how much I know about Volkswagen's power trains and how much I know about MBV platforms.

And it's ridiculous.

And someone says something to me and I go, oh, that's actually MBV plus or something.

Oh, you know, it's just, oh, is that the new AMG EA platform?

You hear the first car of that's coming out in July.

My brain is just filled with random rubbish.

But I love it.

Good memory, though.

Oh, well, yeah.

And I forget normal things that my wife I'm sure remind me of quite constantly.

You talk to her about the MEB platform.

She doesn't care, Steve, come on.

But yeah, no, it's the world nowadays.

It's MAG, it's web, it's social.

It's just trying to, we've always been very proud of being first and being right.

And we have such good sources and such good connections in the industry that

I always hate it if somebody else beats us even by five minutes.

Because I love being first.

And I love being obviously right is the key thing and being correct.

But I like being first with the story.

I like it when we go to events now.

And this is a bit behind the curtain listener where I know other magazines will go.

Oh, there's no point in putting this up now because I know you're beaters.

And I love that.

I love that because I know they're right.

And I know that we'll get that story.

We'll talk to that CEO, we'll get that story up.

And we'll get that up before they've even thought about putting their notebook.

You know, I love that.

And that's why in my opinion, we're the best.

You should see that white of his eyes listening.

Oh, you caught me on a roll, Steve.

We've got you on a good day because we've just published a good story.

As we speak listening, Will's video on the Ferrari interior has just ticked over 3,000

views in its first hour.

Oh, that's pretty good.

It was very good, actually.

No mentions of my trousers, as I said earlier.

No mentions of your trousers in the comments.

They're black trousers.

That's all it is.

None that I've seen so far.

They're actually talking about the car rather than your trousers.

She's always good.

And it's the car that's interesting.

I think that's a good thing.

Somebody says, stop shaking the camera as if it was you.

But there was some handheld stuff going on, was there?

There was.

There was an A camera and a B camera.

Yeah, no.

I don't like that.

Yeah, I don't like that.

Anyway, that is on AutoCars YouTube.

The other story is online and it will be in the magazine on Wednesday just coming.

Week or Wednesday?

No, because this will be out on Saturday the 13th.

And I think so it'll be in the 18th.

So it's in the 18th.

So yeah, full story in the 18th alongside the usual nonsense from me and Steve and

some good stuff from everybody else besides.

You can find that on the newsstands.

You can find us at AutoCars.co.uk.

And our huge thanks to our sponsors Anderson.

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Thank you, Stephen.

Well done.

Thank you, Will.

Thank you.

Well done, Will.

That was great.

Really enjoyed it.

See you next time.

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