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CarCast+Edmunds - Interview with Alan Clarke head of Ford’s Advanced EV Development.

CarCast+Edmunds - Interview with Alan Clarke head of Ford’s Advanced EV Development.

CarCast Jun 02, 2026 54 min
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Alan Clarke, head of Ford’s Advanced EV Development, traces his path from motorsport to Tesla and then to Ford’s “Blue Oval.” The team’s Long Beach EV effort is described as VC-like, startup-style, and empowered to rethink everything “from the ground up.” They reverse engineer competitors, chase efficiency and cost parity, and treat the early truck as a make-or-break bet amid massive EV write-downs. The hosts also dig into charging psychology, dealer rollout, and why EV trucks are a tougher launch than SUVs.

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Car

Tesla Model

"...ly both in the room in 2012 for the launch of the Tesla Model S and he started in motorsport, as he'll explain ..."

The Tesla Model Y is an all-electric SUV made by Tesla. Instead of using gasoline, it runs on a battery and an electric motor. It’s popular because it offers SUV space with an electric drivetrain.

Car

Jeep Renegade

"...alk about going from this kind of startup sort of renegade outfit into, you know, the ultimate big American ..."

The Jeep Renegade is a small SUV made by Jeep. It’s meant for people who want an SUV look and some off-road capability, but in a smaller size. It’s often discussed as part of how Jeep’s lineup targets different kinds of buyers.

Concept

reverse engineered

"I know they reverse engineered some of the competitors, particularly the Chinese cars, stripped them apart and the Tesla's and said, these cars are way cheaper to build"

Reverse engineering means taking something apart to figure out how it works. In this case, they’re studying competitor cars to learn what makes them cheaper and more advanced.

Concept

rethink this from the ground up

"We've got to rethink this from the ground up. And I think Ford CEO Jim Farley came out and said, it's like another model team moment."

“From the ground up” means starting over instead of making small changes. For an electric vehicle, that can mean rethinking how the whole car is designed and built.

Place

Long Beach

"So they've they've empowered this team down in Long Beach. It's quite a long way from Detroit, both metaphorically and literally"

Long Beach is a place in California where Ford has operations. The point here is that the EV team is working from there, not from Detroit.

Concept

electric car

"It's quite a long way from Detroit, both metaphorically and literally to to rethink the electric car. And they're going to come out first with an EV truck."

An electric car runs on electricity stored in a battery. The discussion is about rethinking how to build and design EVs overall.

Concept

EV truck

"to to rethink the electric car. And they're going to come out first with an EV truck. I was given this two hour tour of the the facility, including lots of technology wins"

An EV truck is a pickup or light commercial truck designed to run on electricity. Trucks are especially demanding for EVs because they need more energy for towing, hauling, and higher speeds, which affects battery size, charging strategy, and cost.

Concept

venture capital

"They are trying to prove themselves so they can continue to be funded by their venture capital, in this case, Ford, right?"

Venture capital is money investors put into a new or risky business. The business has to prove it’s making progress so the investors keep funding it.

Car

Renault Modus

"...it's had a very different opinion now. Of course, Modus, but that was going to be our next question. Modu..."

The Renault Modus is a small hatchback car made by Renault. It’s designed to fit in tight spaces while still offering usable room inside. If it’s being discussed, it’s usually because it’s a practical, compact option.

Car

Tesla Model S

"[535.2s] on the original Model S, was it? [537.4s] It was. ... [581.8s] but I remember going to the original launch of the Model S, [583.8s] which would be 2012, was it? [586.8s] when the first customer cars rolled off"

The Tesla Model S is Tesla’s well-known electric sedan. The speaker is talking about the early days when the first customer cars started arriving around 2012.

Car

Tesla Roadster

"[540.4s] on a really fast car called the Roadster. [542.5s] I remember it. I drove it. Yeah, that was great fun."

The Tesla Roadster was one of Tesla’s first electric cars. It was made to show that an EV could be quick and fun to drive, not just practical.

Term

EV

"[562.4s] they were working on a car that it wasn't that it was an EV. [565.6s] It was that it was fast and fun and, you know,"

EV means electric vehicle. It’s a car that runs on electricity from a battery, not gasoline.

Concept

emotional product

"[569.4s] an emotional product and, you know, [571.6s] took one drive of that for me to be sold."

An “emotional product” is something that makes you feel something—like excitement or connection—rather than just being a practical thing. The speaker is saying that one drive made the car feel special to them.

Car

Tesla Model 3

"...at period was, and obviously, you get on with the Model 3 and Model Y and everything that came later."

The Tesla Model 3 is an all-electric sedan made by Tesla. It uses a battery and electric motors instead of a gasoline engine. It’s a major model because it’s designed to be more accessible than earlier Tesla cars.

Person

Bill Ford

"We should explain the characters that you're talking about. [783.5s] So, Jim Farley, the CEO of Ford, Bill Ford, [785.6s] probably needs no introduction."

Bill Ford is a major figure at Ford connected to the Ford family. Here, he’s mentioned as someone the speaker worked with while thinking through Ford’s electric-vehicle direction.

Person

Jim Farley

"We should explain the characters that you're talking about. [783.5s] So, Jim Farley, the CEO of Ford, Bill Ford, [785.6s] probably needs no introduction."

Jim Farley is the top leader (CEO) of Ford. The hosts mention him because he’s important to how Ford is handling the move to electric cars.

Person

Doug Field

"[787.3s] And Doug Field, who's leaving Ford now, "

Doug Field is a senior executive at Ford. The host says he’s leaving, and he’s mentioned because he was involved in the EV-focused leadership discussions.

Concept

barrier to entry

"the number one barrier to entry is this combination of the amount of range you get and the amount of money you have to pay in order to get it."

A “barrier to entry” is the main reason people don’t adopt something yet. In this case, it’s mostly how far EVs go and how much they cost.

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range

"the number one barrier to entry is this combination of the amount of range you get and the amount of money you have to pay in order to get it."

“Range” is how far an EV can go before it needs charging. Think of it like the fuel tank’s distance, but for electricity.

Term

solid-state memory

"You think about solid-state memory, for example, was always more expensive than a traditional hard drive."

“Solid-state” storage is the kind that uses chips instead of moving parts. The point is that it used to cost more, but got cheaper over time as it became common.

Term

traditional hard drive

"was always more expensive than a traditional hard drive. And now it's flipped, and everything we have has solid-state storage, for example."

A traditional hard drive stores data with moving parts inside. The speaker is using it as a comparison to show how newer tech can start costly and later get cheaper.

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ICE parity cost

"we're then spitting distance of ice parity cost, internal combustion engine vehicle, parity cost."

“ICE parity cost” means the price of an EV is getting close to the price of a gas car. When that happens, more people are willing to switch.

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charging stations

"I think a lot of people are used to seeing tons [1234.3s] of charging stations, at least in the coastal areas [1238.1s] of the United States."

Charging stations are public chargers where you plug in an electric car to recharge it. If they’re common in one area but not in others, it can make people hesitant to buy an EV.

Concept

psychological barrier

"so how do you, you mentioned infrastructure [1271.0s] and you're right, that's a big psychological barrier."

A psychological barrier means people feel uneasy or worried, even if the facts look better than before. In this case, the worry is about EV charging and whether trips will be easy.

Company

Electrify America

"But every time we rode trip my wife, [1283.9s] we had a very bad experience [1285.1s] with Electrify America and Rivian."

Electrify America runs a network of public fast chargers for electric cars. If someone says they had a bad experience with it, they likely mean the chargers didn’t work well when they needed them.

Car

Dodge Charger

"... good experience because it just takes one failed charger for you to really be the floor of your trust fall..."

The Dodge Charger is a car that’s built for performance and strong acceleration. It’s a sedan, not an SUV or truck. If it’s mentioned in a charging or reliability story, it’s usually because someone depends on it and wants it to work when they need it.

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battery electric vehicles

"another tough use case for battery electric vehicles, but smaller trucks are used a lot for towing small boats"

A battery electric vehicle is a car that runs on electricity stored in a battery. You charge it by plugging it in, and things like towing can use more energy than normal driving.

Car

Toyota RAV4

"... we found a way to get more cabin volume than the RAV4 and that is the number one selling SUV in the wor..."

The Toyota RAV4 is a compact SUV made by Toyota. It’s popular because it offers a good balance of space, comfort, and everyday practicality. In the conversation, it’s used as an example of a top-selling SUV and a reference point for interior room.

Concept

secure lockable storage

"one of the number one gripes we hear from pickup truck owners constantly is they want secure lockable storage. And with an open bed, you don't get that."

This means storage you can lock so your stuff is harder to steal and stays protected. The host is saying pickups often don’t have that with an open bed, but EVs can.

Term

frunk

"with an EV, you have the superpower of having a frunk and you could put your backpack there and close it"

A frunk is an extra storage compartment at the front of many electric cars. Since there’s no engine in the front, you can put things there and close it securely.

Car

Ford Maverick hybrid

"you know, [1510.4s] seeing a Maverick hybrid or a Ranger, [1514.4s] both of which are very similar in price point"

The Ford Maverick hybrid is a small pickup that runs on a mix of gas and electricity. The point here is that it’s priced similarly to the EV truck being discussed, so it’s an easy option for people who aren’t ready to go fully electric.

Car

Ford Ranger

"walking into the Ford dealership, [1511.8s] seeing a Maverick hybrid or a Ranger, [1514.4s] both of which are very similar in price point"

The Ford Ranger is a pickup truck. In this conversation, it’s mentioned because it’s priced close to the EV, so it competes for the same shopper’s attention.

Term

NVH

"but it has to be, you know, [1536.8s] super compelling from an attribute standpoint. [1539.4s] NVH has to be great, driving dynamics have to be great."

NVH is a car-industry way of talking about how quiet and smooth the ride feels. Lower NVH means less annoying noise and less shaking, so the car feels more refined.

Concept

fund-to-drive moniker

"NVH has to be great, driving dynamics have to be great. [1542.6s] And we keep using the fund-to-drive moniker. [1545.0s] That's very important to us."

“Fund-to-drive” is basically a slogan meaning the car should feel fun and exciting when you’re driving it. They’re saying the EV has to win on how it feels, not just on the technology inside.

Car

Geely Galaxy M9

"And then as we tested a Geely Galaxy M9, [1663.9s] and we had one here in America, [1665.4s] I put it through the test track, [1666.5s] put it through all our range testing and everything else."

The Geely Galaxy M9 is a Chinese car that uses a hybrid system to help it go farther. The speaker says they tested it on a track and did range testing to see how well it performs over distance.

Term

review mirror analysis

"And so we call it review mirror analysis [1724.3s] because if it's already on the market [1725.5s] or someone's already thought about it, [1727.7s] you get to look at how customers perceive it."

It means looking at what already exists and seeing how people react to it. Engineers check things like whether it breaks or wears out, and whether the new features people added are actually useful to customers.

Term

autonomy

"[1754.6s] the risk of name dropping, [1755.7s] I spent some time with RJ Scrinja at Rivian recently [1758.0s] and what he's talking about as he's Tesla at the moment [1762.1s] is autonomy, autonomy, autonomy. [1764.2s] And it was interesting walking around this building. [1766.0s] There wasn't, I don't think anybody really talked about [1767.6s] autonomy."

“Autonomy” here means how much of the driving the car can handle on its own. Think of it as features that steer, control speed, and—at higher levels—drive more independently.

Term

Blue Cruise

"[1766.0s] There wasn't, I don't think anybody really talked about [1767.6s] autonomy. [1768.5s] I know Ford has Blue Cruise,"

“Blue Cruise” is a Ford feature that helps the car drive more on its own, like keeping in the lane and managing speed. You still have to pay attention and be ready to take over.

Term

ice product

"you may end up with a short range EV and then you have an ice product that you use for road trips."

“ICE” means a normal gas or diesel car with an engine. Here, they’re saying you might use the EV for daily driving and the gas car for longer trips.

Term

massive battery

"You do, you know, pushing 500 miles, but they do that by just having a massive battery and hence massive cost that goes with it."

A “massive battery” means a big battery in an electric car. Bigger batteries can go farther, but they usually cost more and add weight.

Term

optimize down to the watt

"You need to optimize down to the watt, down to the, you know, every kilogram, every microgram, whatever you need to do to get the most efficient vehicle."

“Optimize down to the watt” means making the car use electricity more efficiently. The goal is to get more miles out of the same battery energy.

Term

every kilogram, every microgram

"You need to optimize down to the watt, down to the, you know, every kilogram, every microgram, whatever you need to do to get the most efficient vehicle."

They’re saying weight matters a lot. If you make the car lighter, it takes less energy to move, which can help the EV go farther.

Term

giant battery

"And, you know, I think mass is one of those compounding things for real world range as well, where if you put a giant battery into it, crash gets harder to solve..."

A “giant battery” is a bigger battery pack. It can help the car go farther, but it also makes the car heavier, which can make it use more energy and wear tires faster.

Term

adding lightness

"And, you know, I subscribe to the call and chatment theory of adding lightness and I'm a big fan of optimization for what you actually need."

“Adding lightness” means making the car lighter. A lighter car usually needs less energy to move and can also put less stress on tires.

Term

optimization

"And, you know, I subscribe to the call and chatment theory of adding lightness and I'm a big fan of optimization for what you actually need."

Here, “optimization” means designing the car so it has only the parts it really needs. Instead of making everything bigger “just in case,” you size things to hit the target customers care about.

Term

scale

"Because we have a scale at the test track, we've run to eight and a half thousand pounds and it's quite striking..."

They’re talking about weighing the car on a scale. Knowing the car’s weight helps predict things like efficiency and how quickly tires wear.

Term

eight and a half thousand pounds

"Because we have a scale at the test track, we've run to eight and a half thousand pounds and it's quite striking how many of these then we can't put on the scales..."

They’re giving a real weight number for the car. When a vehicle is that heavy, it tends to stress tires more and can use more energy to move.

Brand

Rikaro

"So you're going to Rikaro and saying, this is how we do a seat. And Rikaro has spent the last few decades designing seats."

This sounds like a company that specializes in making car seats. The point is that if Ford is making its own seat design, it’s relying on its own seat experts instead of outsourcing to a specialist.

Concept

own the whole process

"if they're working on their own battery software, throughout this vehicle, they're trying to do what Tesla does, which is own the whole process."

This phrase means the company tries to control most of the important technology itself, not just buy parts and software from others. In EVs, that often includes the battery and the software that manages it.

Brand

Rivian

"And I think there's certainly in this part of California, there's a lot of people move from say Tesla to Rivian to Lucid now to Ford."

Rivian is another electric-car company. The interview is basically saying that in California, people often move between EV companies because there aren’t enough skilled workers to go around.

Brand

Lucid

"there's a lot of people move from say Tesla to Rivian to Lucid now to Ford."

Lucid makes electric cars too. They’re mentioned because the interview is about how hard it is for EV companies to hire the right people, so workers bounce between brands.

Car

Ford Lightning

"One of the flaws they had with the lightning... is the lightning was never a software-driven vehicle. This was a vehicle that had all these different components designed and built by other manufacturers, different suppliers, and the hell has to kind of come together and talk to each other."

The Ford Lightning is an electric pickup. The point here is that it didn’t come from one fully unified software-and-hardware plan—different parts were made by different companies, so getting everything to work together took extra time.

Term

operating system

"It wasn't like an OS, an operating system, and they specced out and said, you need this and this and this."

An operating system is the main software that runs the car’s computer and helps all the other software work. Here, the point is that the Lightning wasn’t built like everything was controlled from one central “OS-first” software plan.

Concept

time lag

"The big part of it... is not that suppliers couldn't do it, it's just a time lag. So saying like, you write a brief, you send it to the supplier, the supplier analyze it, ask some questions, then they develop a prototype part,"

“Time lag” here refers to schedule delays that happen when software and hardware development depend on external suppliers. Even if suppliers can build the right components, the back-and-forth (brief → analysis → questions → prototype) slows down how quickly the system can be integrated and iterated.

Concept

Skunkworks idea fail fast

"So by bringing it in-house, you can, this whole idea of, this whole Skunkworks idea fail fast. Like let's stay, it's a bit like the motorsport mentality as well."

A “skunkworks” is a small team that tries new ideas quickly, without a lot of red tape. “Fail fast” means they test things early, learn from what doesn’t work, and improve quickly.

Car

Ford F-150

"You've got the Maverick, which starts in the 20s, I think still. You've got the F-150, which is not that much more."

The Ford F-150 is Ford’s big, popular pickup truck. In this segment, it’s mentioned to compare how much more you pay as you move up the truck lineup.

Concept

dealer has to be set up to sell it

"And the dealer, this is the hard one as well, the dealer has to be set up to sell it as well. And, you know, the lesson of the EVs,"

This is about making sure the dealership is ready to sell the new EV truck. If the sales team isn’t prepared, shoppers may not understand why the EV is worth buying.

Concept

EVs

"And, you know, the lesson of the EVs, particularly in Ford world, is the dealers haven't been terribly well set up to sell these."

EVs are cars or trucks that run on electricity from a battery. The speaker is saying dealerships need to be ready to explain how EVs work and why they fit the buyer’s needs.

Term

powertrain

"He was putting more emphasis on the potential features of this truck without giving all of them away, but saying the features of this truck, not necessarily the powertrain,"

Your powertrain is what makes the car move and sends that power to the wheels. In this conversation, they’re saying the salesperson should talk about the truck’s benefits, not only the technical parts under the hood.

Term

residual values

"I mean, and also if it's a loan of price points, things like the residual values become less of an issue, it's not $100,000 lightning."

Residual value is what a car is expected to be worth later—often at the end of a lease. They’re saying that if the truck costs less than a very expensive EV, people worry less about that future resale/lease value.

Car

$100,000 lightning

"things like the residual values become less of an issue, it's not $100,000 lightning. So, I'm more excited about this vehicle"

“Lightning” here means the Ford electric pickup, the F-150 Lightning. They’re comparing a very high price to a cheaper option to explain why future value worries can be smaller.

Concept

price parity

"it's a big play [2694.1s] to launch a mid-sized truck at price parity, [2697.0s] which is what they're aiming for with the gas alternatives."

Price parity means the electric version costs about the same as the gas version. The host is saying Ford needs that to make the electric truck competitive.

Concept

desirability factor

"It's gonna have to have that added value. [2702.6s] I think it's gotta have that desirability factor. [2705.2s] I mean, we talked a few weeks ago about the Rivian R2."

The “desirability factor” is whether people actually want the EV. It’s about making it feel like a great choice, not just a different kind of powertrain.

Rivian R2
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Car

Rivian R2

"I mean, we talked a few weeks ago about the Rivian R2. [2708.4s] The Rivian R2 for me has got a lot of desirability."

The Rivian R2 is an electric vehicle that Rivian is planning to sell to more people. The host is using it as an example of an EV that people might actually want, not just buy because it’s electric.

Term

solid state batteries

"The technology isn't there. [2791.3s] We don't have these solid state batteries yet."

Solid state batteries are a newer type of EV battery that uses a solid material inside instead of a liquid. The idea is that they could eventually improve safety and energy density, but they’re not widely available yet.

Car

Cadillac Escalade

"...route and putting a massive battery like in their Escalade is huge truck, heavy, expensive. They want to avo..."

The Cadillac Escalade is a big luxury SUV. It’s designed to be comfortable and feature-rich, but it’s also heavy and expensive to build. If the conversation mentions putting a large battery in it, that’s because bigger cars need more battery capacity to go electric.

Term

small battery

"[2810.8s] So they need a small battery. [2812.2s] So is the only response for him to say"

The battery is the big, expensive part of an EV. Saying “small battery” means using a smaller battery to keep the car cheaper. The downside is it usually means less driving distance before you have to recharge.

Term

efficiency

"[2820.1s] I think there's a reality with this technology [2822.1s] that you can only get 300 miles by, [2825.0s] you can get so far with efficiency. [2826.2s] And I think this is going to be way more efficient"

Efficiency is how well the EV uses its battery energy to move the car. A more efficient EV can go farther on the same charge. That’s important because it can help you get decent range without needing a bigger, more expensive battery.

Term

trade-offs

"[2835.0s] And it's range is like saying all the way through the car, [2837.5s] these trade-offs, how do you, how do you?"

A “trade-off” means improving one thing usually makes another thing worse. In EVs, adding more battery can increase range, but it also adds weight and cost. Using a smaller battery can save money and weight, but it reduces how far you can drive.

Car

Porsche 911

"Allen's a big car guy as well. I know he's got an old 911, which is heavily modified, tucked away."

A Porsche 911 is a famous sports car from Porsche. Saying it’s “old” and “heavily modified” usually means it’s an older one that someone has changed a lot for their own taste or performance.

Concept

business model

"Now it needs to be a real part of the business model. [3176.9s] It needs to earn its dinner. [3178.1s] Yeah, for sure."

They’re talking about whether the EV program makes financial sense for the company. In other words, it needs to sell well and create value, not just be a trial run.

Car

Ford Gt

"They did it with the Ford GT. [3199.3s] They're now doing it with the EVs. [3201.5s] So let's see how expensive it is"

The Ford GT is Ford’s famous performance sports car. In this segment, they’re using it as an example of how Ford has previously backed big, ambitious projects—now they’re doing something similar with EVs.

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