CarCast+Edmunds - Talking Rivian R2, autonomous cars and more with Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe
About this episode
BMW’s new i3 EV design language takes center stage, with debate over its sharp “kidney” front, eccentric north-south steering wheel, and screen-heavy cabin layout—plus questions about whether battery breakthroughs are coming fast enough. A serious Hyundai Palisade stop-sale is discussed for limited/calligraphy trims with powered third-row issues. The main event is an interview with Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe at the R2 launch, where he frames R2 as a mass-capable SUV competing for buyers like RAV4/4Runner shoppers, and bets heavily on autonomy progress toward level 3 and beyond.
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Toyota Tacoma
"Hi, you're listening to Meditating with Jan from Toyota. Soften your focus and visualize yourself off-roading in a Tacoma."
The Toyota Tacoma is a pickup truck from Toyota. People like it because it’s tough and can handle rough roads, not just city streets.
The Toyota Tacoma is a midsize pickup truck known for off-road capability and durability. It’s commonly chosen by people who want a truck that can handle dirt roads, trails, and everyday driving.
Toyota Grand Highlander
"Because you're driving the kids to a farm sanctuary in a Grand Highlander."
The Toyota Grand Highlander is a bigger Toyota SUV with room for families. It’s meant for carrying kids and gear comfortably.
The Toyota Grand Highlander is a larger three-row SUV positioned above the standard Highlander. It’s designed for families who need more passenger and cargo space while still using Toyota’s mainstream comfort and reliability focus.
Zip Recruiter
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ZipRecruiter is a website that helps companies hire people. It’s mentioned here because this part of the podcast is an advertisement.
ZipRecruiter is an online hiring platform that matches employers with job candidates. This segment is an ad and not directly about cars, but it’s part of the podcast audio listeners hear.
Rivian
"But this week, we have an interview with their CEO and a few other things to get into today."
Rivian is an EV manufacturer known for building electric trucks and SUVs, with a strong focus on software, driver-assistance features, and adventure-oriented design. In this episode, Rivian’s CEO is interviewed, so the brand context matters for understanding the company’s strategy.
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They’re reading an ad for a company called Bioproteintech. The link is just where you’d go to sign up for the offer they mention.
This is the website for Bioproteintech, referenced as part of an ad read. It’s not an automotive company, but it’s a brand mention that listeners may want to recognize as the sponsor behind the “CarCast” promotion.
iX3 (G08)
"... new design language for BMW. We saw it with the IX3. And now we're seeing it with the, with the I3,"
The iX3 is an electric SUV from BMW. It uses electricity to drive instead of gasoline. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because it shows BMW’s newer design direction for its electric vehicles.
The iX3 (G08) is BMW’s electric SUV variant built on the X3 family’s underpinnings. The podcast notes BMW’s “new design language” and says they’ve seen it with the iX3, then connects that to other BMW EVs. That makes it relevant as an example of how BMW is updating both styling and EV direction.
BMW i3
"... IX3. And now we're seeing it with the, with the I3, which also points to, you know, what the three ..."
The i3 is a small electric car made by BMW. It runs on electricity and was one of BMW’s earlier EV models. The podcast mentions it because it’s part of the story of how BMW’s electric cars have developed over time.
The BMW i3 is a compact electric car that helped establish BMW’s early approach to EVs. In the podcast, it’s referenced alongside other BMW EVs as part of a broader point about the brand’s evolving lineup and design direction. That makes it a useful historical reference when discussing how BMW’s electric strategy has progressed.
kidney grills
"with the very prominent crit kidney grills works better on the sedan than it does on the SUV."
BMW’s “kidney grills” are the brand’s recognizable front grille openings. They’re talking about how that bold front look can work better on some car shapes than others.
“Kidney grills” are BMW’s signature grille shape, named for their distinctive kidney-like openings. In this segment, they’re discussing how prominent grille styling can look different depending on whether the car is a sedan or an SUV.
steering wheel
"And then there's pretty eccentric steering wheel, ... So a spoke that runs kind of from the top of the steering wheel to the bottom, and then nothing on the side."
The steering wheel is what you use to turn the car. Here, they’re talking about a steering wheel design that looks unusual compared to most cars.
The steering wheel is the driver’s primary control input for steering angle. In this segment, the host is highlighting a design choice that changes the wheel’s spoke layout to stand out visually and ergonomically.
head up display system
"in a similar vein to what you might expect from a head up display system. But that's all your primary information."
A head-up display shows important info on the windshield. The idea is you can see speed or warnings without looking down at the screen.
A head-up display (HUD) projects key driving information onto the windshield so you can keep your eyes on the road. The host compares the small top-of-dash strip to HUD-like functionality, suggesting it’s meant to show primary data without forcing a full glance to the center screen.
Lincoln
"it's kind of like what Lincoln is doing, right? But I think Lincoln does it all with one big screen instead of two screens."
Lincoln is a luxury car brand. The host is comparing how Lincoln uses screens on the dashboard to what this other car is doing.
Lincoln is Ford’s luxury brand, and the host is comparing its screen strategy to the vehicle being discussed. The key idea here is how luxury EVs/modern cars use large, integrated displays—sometimes one big screen, sometimes multiple stacked screens.
aerodynamics
"So, what they're doing at the moment is really iterating it and evolving it. So, they're getting better at aerodynamics, they're getting better at the software to actually manage the battery."
Aerodynamics is how air resistance affects a car’s efficiency, especially at highway speeds. Improving aerodynamic design can increase EV range without changing the battery itself, which is why the speaker mentions it alongside software improvements.
frunk
"Yeah, it does a little, a little frunk. A little frunk. Yeah, Yeah, it's got a little frunk, more like a storage bin in the front."
A frunk is like a trunk, but in the front of the car. On many electric cars it’s there because there’s no engine up front, so you can store small stuff like cables.
A frunk (front trunk) is a storage compartment in the front of a vehicle, typically made possible by packaging an electric drivetrain. The host notes the frunk is small but useful for items like charging cables.
stop sale
"There was an issue with the Hyundai Palisade and there's a stop sale. Stop sale is a serious thing to take a look at."
A stop sale means the automaker tells dealers not to sell certain cars right now. It’s usually because there’s a safety problem that needs to be fixed.
A “stop sale” is an order to halt sales of certain vehicles due to a safety or compliance issue. It’s often followed by a recall and a fix once the problem is identified and a remedy is ready.
recall
"...they will also do a recall. So if you have a Palisade limited... contact your dealer immediately."
A recall means the manufacturer will fix the problem on affected cars. Owners are usually notified and can get the repair done through their dealer.
A recall is the formal process where an automaker notifies owners and performs a remedy for a safety defect or noncompliance. The speaker notes Hyundai will do a recall after the stop sale while they work on a fix.
Hyundai Palisade
"we were running a test that Telluride and the Palisade."
The Hyundai Palisade is another family SUV with three rows. They mention it in the same breath as the Telluride because they were testing and comparing the two.
The Hyundai Palisade is a three-row midsize SUV that competes directly with vehicles like the Kia Telluride. In this segment, it’s mentioned alongside the Telluride as part of a test, likely to compare how the two SUVs behave or how their systems perform.
Kia Telluride
"Because we, yeah, we actually, the Telluride came out this week and we were running a test that Telluride and the Palisade."
The Kia Telluride is a family SUV with three rows. In this episode, it’s brought up because they were comparing it to another similar SUV during a test.
The Kia Telluride is a three-row midsize SUV that’s often compared against other family-oriented crossovers. Here it’s referenced because the hosts were running a test involving the Telluride and the Hyundai Palisade, suggesting a comparison of real-world behavior or features.
Rivian R2
"We sat down in South by Southwest where they were launching the R2 and had about a 20 minute chat, really not just"
The Rivian R2 is an upcoming electric SUV from Rivian. It’s the newer model they were promoting at a big event (SXSW) during this conversation.
Rivian R2 is the next-generation, smaller electric SUV that Rivian is positioning as a more accessible step in its lineup. In this segment, it’s mentioned in the context of Rivian launching the R2 at South by Southwest (SXSW).
Tesla Model Y
"We're not trying to build another Tesla Model Y. It's priced almost right on top of very, very similar to Model Y, but it's giving customers a very different choice."
The Tesla Model Y is one of the most popular electric SUVs. Rivian is basically saying, “We’re in the same general category,” but R2 is trying to appeal to different buyers.
Tesla Model Y is Tesla’s compact electric crossover/SUV and a key benchmark for pricing, packaging, and target customers. The speaker uses it as the comparison point for how R2 is similar in size/value positioning but aims to be meaningfully different in customer appeal.
0 to 60
"So, it's an SUV that accelerates a portion out of 11, 0 to 60. It's more capable than almost anything off-road."
“0 to 60” is how quickly a car can go from standing still to 60 mph. Faster times usually mean the car feels more responsive.
“0 to 60” is shorthand for acceleration time from 0 mph to 60 mph, a common performance metric. The speaker uses it to argue that R2 accelerates strongly for an SUV, even though it’s positioned as a mainstream EV.
neural nets
"which is use of transform based encoding and the idea of using neural nets and foundation models versus a real space approach."
Neural nets are computer models that learn from lots of examples. For self-driving, they help the car interpret what’s happening on the road.
Neural nets are machine-learning models inspired by the brain that learn patterns from large datasets. In autonomy, they’re commonly used for perception (seeing lanes/objects) and prediction (what other road users might do).
transform based encoding
"which is use of transform based encoding and the idea of using neural nets and foundation models versus a real space approach."
This is a type of computer-learning method. The idea is to help the self-driving system understand driving data better and learn patterns that transfer to new situations.
“Transform based encoding” refers to using transformer-style neural network methods to represent and process driving-relevant information. In autonomy, this can improve how the system learns from data and generalizes to new situations.
foundation models
"using neural nets and foundation models versus a real space approach."
A foundation model is a big AI system trained broadly, then used for specific problems. Here, they’re saying it can help self-driving systems learn and adapt better.
Foundation models are large, general-purpose AI models trained on broad data, then adapted for specific tasks like driving perception or planning. The speaker contrasts this approach with more traditional “real space” methods, suggesting faster progress and better generalization.
Tesla FSD
"So that's just now like starting to happen. So that's Tesla FSD is that our platform is that, and there's only a couple that are true AI based"
Tesla FSD is Tesla’s self-driving software package. It’s meant to automate more driving tasks over time, using cameras and other sensors.
Tesla FSD refers to Tesla’s Full Self-Driving software suite, which uses onboard sensors and AI to provide increasingly automated driving functions. The speaker uses it to discuss AI-based autonomy approaches and compares them to other systems.
AI based
"and there's only a couple that are true AI based, but the rate of progress and the rate of generalization is so much higher than anything that's"
AI-based means the car uses learning software to make decisions, not just fixed rules. They’re saying this kind of approach can help the system get better faster and handle more situations.
“AI based” here implies autonomy systems that rely heavily on machine-learning models (rather than only rule-based logic) for perception and decision-making. The speaker claims these AI-based approaches can improve the rate of progress and how well the system generalizes.
EVs
"And from a, from a kind of adoption, it's going back to EVs for a moment. What do you see as the primary reason for the, the pullbacks?"
EVs are cars powered by electricity instead of gasoline. They’re talking about why fewer people are buying them than expected.
EVs are electric vehicles, and the segment shifts to why adoption has slowed or “pulled back” despite the push toward electrification. The discussion ties EV adoption to policy, infrastructure, and public perception.
electrification
"And very few manufacturers on the journey to electrification really wanted it... Most manufacturers are like, oh, darn it. They're like, we have to do electrolyte vehicles."
Electrification means moving away from gas engines toward electric motors. They’re saying companies felt forced to do it, and the results weren’t as profitable as hoped.
Electrification is the industry shift from internal-combustion powertrains to electric propulsion. The speaker suggests many automakers pursued it due to external pressure and expectations rather than purely enthusiastic internal demand.
ICE
"And so all these businesses are saying we're just can't do it. We're not going to go. We'd rather go back to ICE."
ICE stands for internal combustion engine, meaning gas/diesel vehicles. The speaker contrasts EV plans with the option companies have to “go back to ICE” if EV economics and scale don’t pencil out.
charging deserts
"But if you're going through, let's see, there's some deserts we like charging deserts. So if you're going through North Carolina, yeah, or middle of nowhere Wyoming, like these are hard places because there's not a lot of charging."
“Charging deserts” are regions with limited or unreliable public charging coverage, making EV travel harder. The speaker cites specific places to illustrate where the network still needs improvement.
AI
"The passion is on everything. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it varies. And there, there, there's a lot of [2121.4s] overlap, especially when it comes to AI. Yeah. So the robotics work that we do, thinking about"
AI is software that can learn patterns and make decisions. In cars and robots, it helps systems “understand” the world and choose what to do next.
AI (artificial intelligence) is central to modern EV and robotics work, especially for perception, planning, and learning-based systems. The speaker ties AI to robotics efforts like model architectures and training infrastructure, implying similar AI-driven approaches could influence future vehicle capabilities.
Edmunds
"...comparing it like you guys would be doing at Edmunds as well, going, hey, we're going to look at RAV4 versus CRV..."
Edmunds is a car review and shopping website. The speaker is using it to describe how reviewers typically compare cars using things like efficiency and how lively they feel.
Edmunds is an automotive media and car-shopping resource known for reviews, comparisons, and pricing guidance. Here it’s used as a stand-in for how traditional evaluations focus on powertrains, fuel economy, and driving feel.
RAV4 versus CR-V
"...comparing it like you guys would be doing at Edmunds as well, going, hey, we're going to look at RAV4 versus CRV, and here's all of the things that go up against it."
RAV4 and CR-V are two of the most popular mainstream compact SUVs, commonly used as direct comparison models in reviews. The speaker uses them to explain how Edmunds-style evaluations typically compare powertrains, fuel economy, and driving feel.
autonomy
"[2592.9s] which I think he feels is potentially the game change moment, is autonomy. I mean, [2598.6s] this is something that, obviously, Tesla's pushing incredibly hard..."
Autonomy means the car can do more of the driving on its own. Instead of you constantly steering and watching, the car handles more of the work.
Autonomy refers to a vehicle’s ability to drive itself using sensors, cameras, radar, and onboard computing. In the podcast, it’s framed as the potential “game change” because it can change how people use their time while driving.
cameras
"...the safety or even just like the cameras and stuff and how it sees the world."
Cameras help the car “see” the road. They can recognize things like lanes and other vehicles so the car can make safer decisions.
Cameras are a key perception sensor for driver assistance and autonomy, providing visual information for lane detection, object recognition, and traffic understanding. They’re often used alongside radar and lidar (when equipped) with AI to interpret scenes.
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