Rain may have wiped out the main day of the OBX Rod and Custom Festival, but the hosts still describe a huge turnout of drivers—hundreds of cars packed across parking lots. The conversation then shifts to what makes custom projects worth building: telling a story, not just selling, and deciding what to keep versus what to move on after it’s been seen. Later, the show pivots into real-world buying and ownership talk—EV charging, dealer markups, warranties, and even novelty “tire smoke” air fresheners.
Join Dave and the crew on Let’s Talk Cars Radio as we recap our OBX Rod and Custom Festival car show trip while braveing the rain. The guys also debate the pros and cons of building an over the-top "toy" hot rod and discuss why thousands of new Corvettes are sitting unsold on dealership lots. You wont want to miss this!
"...t, so that car will never leave our side. Uh, the Nova has quickly become a labor of love. That car prob..."
The Chevrolet Nova is an older Chevrolet model that many people still like today. Some owners spend a lot of time fixing it up or customizing it, which is why it can become a “labor of love.” It’s the kind of car that often has a personal story behind it.
The Chevrolet Nova is a classic American car that became especially popular with enthusiasts and collectors over time. It’s often discussed as a “project” or “labor of love” because many owners restore or modify them rather than leaving them stock. A mention like “the Nova has quickly become a labor of love” typically signals a personal restoration or long-term ownership story.
"I went and looked at uh. I looked at a seventy three vet, and I thought about just putting a super stupid motor sticking out of it, you know, making it kind of more look like crazy, like a crazy hot wheel."
“Vet” means Corvette, which is a Chevrolet sports car. The speaker is talking about a 1973 Corvette and imagining a wild custom build for it.
“Vet” here is shorthand for a Chevrolet Corvette. A “1973 Corvette” is a specific generation-era muscle-era Corvette, and the speaker is talking about building one with an extreme, show-car style engine setup.
Concept
super stupid motor sticking out of it
"I looked at a seventy three vet, and I thought about just putting a super stupid motor sticking out of it, you know, making it kind of more look like crazy, like a crazy hot wheel."
This describes an extreme custom “show” engine setup where the engine is made to look oversized or prominently displayed. It’s more about visual impact and hot-rod style than a typical factory engine bay layout.
"We would have to put a hot wheel wrap on it, you know."
A “wrap” is a vinyl sticker/covering that goes on the car’s body. They’re talking about a toy-like design so the car looks like a Hot Wheels model.
A “wrap” is a vinyl covering applied to a vehicle’s exterior for color or graphics. A “hot wheel wrap” implies a toy-car style livery—bright, exaggerated colors and patterns—meant to make the Corvette look like a Hot Wheels toy.
"I looked at an old army truck and I was like, well, let me take an old army truck, put a blower in it or something."
A “blower” usually means a supercharger. It pushes extra air into the engine so it can make more power.
In this context, a “blower” means a supercharger—an engine-mounted device that forces more air into the engine. More air typically allows more fuel to be burned, which can significantly increase power compared with a naturally aspirated setup.
"...go how much do we need to win to walk away with a Mustang or a classic car? Speaker 2: The thing about it i..."
The Ford Mustang is a car made by Ford that’s known for sporty looks and strong performance. It’s been around for many years, and people often collect them. That’s why it comes up when someone talks about getting a Mustang as a prize.
The Ford Mustang is a classic American muscle car that has been produced for decades, with many different generations and special editions. It’s frequently discussed because it’s both a popular performance platform and a common “classic car” target for collectors and enthusiasts. In a conversation about “winning” or “walking away with a Mustang,” it’s likely being referenced as a desirable prize or example of a sought-after car.
"I think I told you guys, the stockpile of electric cars right the second is crazy. They're just not moving that quickly. So they were doing a study because the fact that there's so much money spent and there's so many of them, and they're sitting around the lots and they're not sold."
They’re describing a bunch of electric cars that are sitting unsold at lots. That usually happens when not enough people want to buy them yet, or when the price is too high.
The hosts are talking about an “electric cars stockpile,” meaning unsold EV inventory sitting on dealer lots. When EVs don’t sell quickly, it can reflect pricing, charging convenience, or consumer demand lag compared with how many were ordered or financed.
"Like I said, you know when we went on our trip. I have a little bit of self driving features, but not like these other cars have just enough where it kind of just keeps it straight, and you know, I have power steering, but just you know, driving that far and having it just do as much."
They mean the car has helpful automation, like keeping itself in the lane. It’s not the same as the car fully driving itself without you paying attention.
“Self driving features” here sounds like driver-assistance tech—systems that can help with steering and lane keeping, but typically still require the driver to supervise. The key idea is partial automation rather than a fully autonomous car.
"I have a little bit of self driving features, but not like these other cars have just enough where it kind of just keeps it straight, and you know, I have power steering, but just you know, driving that far and having it just do as much."
Power steering makes the steering wheel easier to turn. They’re basically saying the car helps a bit, but you still have to do a lot yourself.
“Power steering” uses a motor or hydraulic system to reduce the effort needed to turn the wheel. In the context of the quote, it’s being contrasted with how much driver-assistance can “do the work” for you during long driving.
"I like the fact that we have one to it and I don't have a Tesla that does everything for you, but mine does. It will dry down the road and keep in the lane..."
Tesla is an electric-car brand. The speaker is saying their car can help drive more automatically—like staying in the lane—so the driver doesn’t have to focus as much.
Tesla is an EV brand known for driver-assistance features that can help with lane keeping and adaptive driving on highways. In this segment, the speaker credits Tesla with reducing how much attention the driver needs during road trips.
"It will dry down the road and keep in the lane, and I don't have to keep my hands les stew and all that kind of stuff."
“Keep in the lane” means the car helps you stay in your lane. It uses sensors to nudge or guide the car so you don’t drift as easily.
“Keep in the lane” refers to lane-keeping driver assistance, which uses cameras and sensors to help the car stay centered in its lane. It’s part of the broader idea of semi-automated highway driving that reduces driver workload.
"I also think, you know, it's not just a plug in place scenario, even though you know, kind of kind of a joke because the electric is kind of plug and play."
“Plug-and-play” is the idea that EVs are easy—just plug them in. The speaker points out that you still need a place to charge, like at home or at a public station.
“Plug-and-play” is a common way to describe EV charging and ownership as simple: plug the car in and it’s ready to go. The speaker contrasts that idea with the real-world need to have charging access (home installation or public chargers).
"... how you do it right, or you go into one of those charger stations, but you know you're gonna have to walk...."
The Dodge Charger is a performance car made by Dodge. It’s designed to feel powerful and exciting to drive. In your podcast context, the word “charger” may be used in a double-meaning way.
The Dodge Charger is a full-size, performance-oriented sedan/coupe-style car that’s known for powerful engines and a strong enthusiast following. It’s often mentioned in car discussions because it’s a recognizable platform for both street driving and high-performance builds. References to “charger stations” in the context you provided suggest the conversation may be playing on the Charger name while talking about charging or driving plans.
Concept
charging at home vs public charger stations
"when you charge, you know, you have to charge it somewhere, so it's either going to be at home... or you go into one of those charger stations..."
EVs have to be charged, not fueled. The speaker is saying you can charge at home, but if you don’t have that setup you’ll rely on public charging stations, which can be more inconvenient.
EVs must be charged somewhere, so charging access becomes a practical part of ownership. This segment compares home charging (often requiring installation) with using public charging stations, which can be less convenient than fueling a gasoline car.
"...ow. I told you guys, I watched it because I had a firebird in it, and that's the reason why I watched it. An..."
The Pontiac Firebird is a classic American muscle car made by Pontiac. It’s known for being sporty and having a strong enthusiast following. The podcast mention suggests the speaker had one and it influenced their interest.
The Pontiac Firebird is a classic muscle car from Pontiac’s lineup, known for its styling and performance potential. It’s frequently brought up in enthusiast conversations because it shares the same era of popularity as other iconic American performance cars. In your context, the host mentions having a Firebird, which explains why it’s part of what they watched or discussed.
"They're like, well, this is how we structure these deals. This is the bottom line, out the door price. What he gave you was the sale."
The “out the door price” is the final total you’ll pay to get the car, not just the sticker price. It includes the extra charges like taxes and fees.
“Out the door price” is the total amount you pay to take the car home, including the negotiated sale price plus taxes, registration, and dealer fees. It’s the number shoppers should compare across dealers because it reflects the full transaction cost.
"they didn't want to do the deal unless we were going to buy all this stuff, and I'm like, no, we're not We're not buying that crap. First of all, I'm not buying extended warranty from you."
An extended warranty is extra coverage you buy after the factory warranty ends. It can help pay for repairs, but you should check what it actually covers and what it costs.
An extended warranty is a vehicle service contract that covers repairs beyond the factory warranty period. Dealers often bundle it with the purchase, and the value depends on coverage terms, exclusions, deductible, and whether the plan is priced fairly.
Brand
sena warranty
"It's not worth the paper it's written on unless it's well hopefully still true. It's a sena warranty. Look them up."
They’re talking about a specific warranty company (“sena warranty”) that they think is better than the one being offered. Different warranty providers can cover different things and handle claims differently.
The speaker mentions “sena warranty” as a specific warranty provider they believe is worth looking into. In practice, warranty brands matter because coverage quality, claim handling, and exclusions vary widely between companies.
"So no, I'm not buying that paint sealing protection. Car already has it on it."
Paint sealing protection is a product that’s put on top of the paint to help protect it. Think of it like a protective layer that can make washing easier, but it’s usually part of a bigger detailing process.
Paint sealing protection refers to aftermarket products (often synthetic sealants) applied over paint to create a protective barrier against water, dirt, and contaminants. In practice, it’s usually a step in a multi-step detailing package, and the value depends on product quality and surface prep.
"You're going to seal on top of the ceial and then ceramic coat it for another four grand And we're not doing all that junk."
Ceramic coating is a protective layer put on your car’s paint. It helps water bead up and makes the paint easier to clean, but it’s not magic—how it’s applied matters a lot.
A ceramic coat is a liquid polymer/ceramic coating applied to a car’s paint to add a hydrophobic (water-repelling) layer and improve stain resistance. It’s often sold as longer-lasting protection than basic wax, but it still requires proper prep and correct application to work well.
"The craziness is going on right this second with repos and how that's starting to get completely out of control again"
Repossessions are when a car is taken back because payments weren’t made. If more cars are being repossessed, you’ll often see more of them appear at auctions.
Repossessions happen when a vehicle is taken back by a lender or finance company after the buyer falls behind on payments. When repos become more common, it can increase the number of cars showing up on auction sites, which can affect pricing and availability.
"And if you don't believe me, just click onto one of the auction sites, go to any of them. There's tons of them out there."
Auction sites are websites where cars are sold to the highest bidder. The speaker is saying that many of the cars you see there come from other sources, like repossessions.
Auction sites are online marketplaces where vehicles are listed for bidding, often including dealer inventory, trade-ins, and repossessed cars. The speaker’s point is that a large inventory at auctions can be driven by repeated listings and supply flowing from finance defaults.
"... being a Wendy's employee, I guess it has to be a hellcat my understanding the little article they sent. Sp..."
The Challenger is a performance car made by Dodge. It’s designed to be fast and exciting, and some versions are especially powerful. Your podcast context suggests they were talking about a top-performance version.
The Dodge Challenger is a performance-focused muscle car known for its powerful engines and long-running popularity. It’s frequently discussed because it’s a recognizable platform for both factory performance and enthusiast modifications. In your context, the mention of “a hellcat” indicates the conversation is likely referring to a high-performance Challenger variant.
"Speaker 2: Okay, that's gonna be more than you made in a year.
[3180.0s] Company Still the car payment a year, I don't it's got to be for like exactly, there's no I mean, I guess it's for everybody.
[3207.0s] Speaker 4: They're allowed to spread it out for seven to two months, okay, so they given a longer period on the book"
A car payment is what you pay each month to pay off a financed car. If you stretch it out longer, you might end up paying more overall.
A car payment is the recurring amount you pay to finance a vehicle, typically monthly. The segment also hints at financing structure—like extending the term—so the total cost can rise even if the monthly payment feels manageable.
"Speaker 4: They're allowed to spread it out for seven to two months, okay, so they given a longer period on the book, Okay, okay, maybe okay, So that's why even then that's still a very expensive car payment. It does say at the end
[3218.4s] the interest is going to be a skyrocket."
Interest is the fee you pay for borrowing money. With a car loan, it can add a lot to what you pay in total.
Interest is the extra cost charged for borrowing money, usually expressed as a rate over time. In car financing, interest can make the total amount paid much higher than the vehicle’s sticker price, especially if the loan term is extended.
"Speaker 2: I got another one for you. I told you some
[3233.6s] crazy news before we got out of here. Okay, here
[3233.6s] about Tesla and you guys know, I'm Tesla fan, like Tesla's like Lucid Motor two. Although I heard that they're
[3239.0s] having a rough first quarter."
Lucid Motor is a company that makes electric cars. The host is saying Lucid has had a tough start to the year.
Lucid Motor is an electric-vehicle brand focused on luxury EVs. The host compares it to Tesla and mentions that Lucid is having a “rough first quarter,” implying near-term financial or operational challenges.
"Speaker 2: ...it told you the distance of the object that was driving behind you, like how close it was, and if it was in your blind spot.
[3351.0s] It lets you know that you could see the blind spot."
Your blind spot is an area next to or behind your car that you can’t see well from the mirrors. Some cars use sensors to detect cars there and warn you.
A blind spot is an area around your car that you can’t see directly from the driver’s mirrors or by turning your head. Driver-assistance systems can detect vehicles in that zone and warn you before you change lanes.
"Speaker 2: ...I was talking about the way Win show wipers work, or the way headlights work, all that kind of stuff. Some things I think we
[3384.1s] can we can improve upon."
Headlights are the lights at the front of the car that help you see the road. Newer designs can help light the road better and automatically adjust in some situations.
Headlights are the front lamps used to illuminate the road at night and in low visibility. In modern cars, their design can include different beam patterns and automated features that improve visibility and reduce glare.
"Speaker 2: ...I was talking about the way Win show wipers work, or the way headlights work, all that kind of stuff. Some things I think we
[3384.1s] can we can improve upon."
Windshield wipers are the blades that wipe rain off your windshield. Some cars can automatically change how fast they wipe when it starts raining.
Windshield wipers clear rain, snow, and debris from the windshield so the driver can see. Many cars use rain-sensing wipers that automatically adjust wipe speed based on how much water is on the glass.
"Speaker 2: ...Apparently they're thinking about redesigning the tailgate on trucks again. How it's a great idea. You have it,
[3397.7s] how tell me?
[3401.6s] Speaker 2: Toyota now has it folded sideways. The only other way
[3409.4s] is fold up."
A tailgate is the back door of a pickup truck bed. How it opens can make it easier to load things and can also change how you use the truck.
A tailgate is the rear door on a pickup truck that swings down or opens to access the cargo bed. The way it opens can affect loading convenience, storage, and how easily you can use the truck as a work or leisure platform.
"Speaker 2: Toyota now has it folded sideways. The only other way
[3409.4s] is fold up.
[3410.4s] Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think it's more the fact of how it folds."
Toyota is the car brand mentioned here. They’re being credited with a pickup truck tailgate design that folds sideways to make it more useful.
Toyota is the automaker being referenced for a pickup-truck tailgate design that folds sideways. The point is that different opening mechanisms can change how practical the truck is for loading and everyday use.
"And believe it or not, less than ten years ago, I almost bought a jacked up Ford truck again, and I talked myself out of it only because it was done very nicely."
“Jacked up” means the truck sits higher than stock. People do it for looks and sometimes for off-road clearance.
“Jacked up” is slang for raising a truck’s ride height, usually with suspension lift components or larger tires. It changes the truck’s stance and how it handles, especially on-road versus off-road.
"Speaker 2: It was. My buddy had one that was tricked out.
[3516.8s] He had it souped up, hit it lower, a little bit lower the ground, and it was It wasn't slammed, but it just had the right stance to it."
“Souped up” means the truck was modified to be better than the factory version—often for more power or a more extreme setup.
“Souped up” means modifying a vehicle to make it more powerful or more aggressive than stock, often with engine upgrades and supporting changes. In this context, it’s used to describe a buddy’s truck being heavily customized.
"He had it souped up, hit it lower, a little bit lower the ground, and it was It wasn't slammed, but it just had the right stance to it."
“Hit it lower” means the truck was lowered so it sits closer to the ground. That usually changes the look and can affect how bumpy it feels and how much clearance it has.
“Hit it lower” refers to lowering a vehicle’s ride height, typically via lowering springs, coilovers, or other suspension changes. Lowering affects stance and can also change ride comfort and ground clearance.
"It wasn't slammed, but it just had the right stance to it. It was"
“Stance” is how the truck looks in terms of how it sits—how high or low it is and how the wheels fit. People care about it because it affects the truck’s overall look.
In car culture, “stance” means the overall visual and geometric setup—how high the car sits, wheel/tire fitment, and the balance of the front-to-rear height. It’s often discussed alongside lowering/lift and wheel choices.
"...to And I think that was all. It might have been a lightning, it might have been. I think it was a lightning t..."
The Ford F-150 Lightning is an electric pickup truck made by Ford. Instead of using gasoline, it runs on electricity stored in a battery. The podcast mention is likely about whether the truck being discussed was this electric version.
The Ford F-150 Lightning is an all-electric version of the Ford F-150 pickup truck. It’s significant because it brings electric power to a mainstream truck platform, which changes how people think about towing, charging, and daily driving. In your context, it’s mentioned as a possibility (“it might have been a Lightning”), suggesting the episode was identifying a specific electric truck example.
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Speaker 2: I was waiting to see if you're paying attention and app I wait for you to say it. Hey, guys,
it is a great day for a radio show. Hopefully
where you guys are at, it's a great day for a car show. Hey. So if you all don't know
and you weren't there, you guys missed it. It was
a awesome, awesome show out in North Carolina, even though it got rained out for the main day. I mean,
let's just talk about the craziness of how many cars.
So I've been talking to people about it all week.
Everybody enjoyed themselves, but yes, we did get rained down, like I said, on Saturday, was the main event. It
got rained out. But I will say that the organizers
of the OBX Rod and Custom Festival stuck it out.
They are still out there even bad weather, underneath the tent, trying to finish up the events and stuff and still trying to keep a happy face, even though it rained all day, start raining Friday night, and then it just carried all the way through, which washed most things away.
But a lot of people packed up and they did head home. But there was still a lot of cars
we found so on Friday, and Nate will tell you, in a fifteen mile stretch there was more parking lots than we could count on our fingers and our toes with cars packed in them, up and down that strip of about for about fifteen miles long. Now, if you
couldn't find something at that show that you liked, I don't The cars aren't for you. I mean it had
every type of car that you could think. Rather you
were into rat rods, you need muscle cars, pro street customs, low riders, you name it. It had it. We saw,
We saw it all and it was a great, great turnout to be just an awesome show. And then the
ring came and then it kind of sent us all to uh, back to our houses or hotels or where we were staying at. And I mean we made the
best of it. We had a good time. We met
some cool people, hit a couple of the local spots and hung out, had some drinks and cotails of people and kind of talked to stuff. So that made it cool.
I did not get my full dose of cars that I needed. I got a good injection of it. And
I can see just what attracts people to this show.
I mean, and here's the thing, guys, It's not like trailer queens. These are very very nice cars, and there's,
like I said, there's something for everybody. Rather be you know,
a rat rod or something that's being in the works.
Everything was being driven. I mean, like we saw everything
being driven. It's not like everything came right off a
trailer and then went right back on a trail. Now.
I saw couple those and we were on People are like, oh I saw that. I saw a couple. But I
would say ninety percent of the cars that were there were drivers. And I saw some very expensive builds that
were drivers, which just made me happy to see him being driven. I mean, I saw crazy things. Dam remember
the guy with the he had the full on dragster.
Yeah that was cool. Yeah it was you liked it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean there's a bunch of vehicles out there that I loved. You know, there's a great time
to get out there, see a bunch of different builds and just see it. We have a good time for
the little part that we you know, got to see right.
Speaker 2: Before the rain came. Now, we stayed even with the
rain coming in on Friday night. Like I said, I
mean the parking lot. I would say probably in the
one parking lot that we camped out, and there was easily probably six hundred cars in that parking lot. I
mean easily, I mean just in that one parking lot.
It was pretty crazy. It was row after row after
row after row after row of cars and likely there's a lot of cool stuff if you can get a chance to go check it out. I have some of
the pictures we did take if we spotted to you. You
guys know we played the did we spot the game?
Uh there's I did post ups pictures, I got some more to come. Ich tid to edit everything through. So
if you guys can get chance to check those out, definitely go on to Facebook and check them out. I
gotta post up there for you guys at Let's Talk Cars radio or any of the platforms you guys use.
You find this, it'll connect you innerweb it and make you guys come together. But yeah, really really cool. One
of my favorite cars that I saw was a I believe it was the front of it it was a co truck. In the back of it was an older
ambulance body, but they pushed them together and kind of made it look like a jeeper creepers truck kind of looked to it. I thought it was very very cool.
Was on air bag, so I dropped down low. Another
one was there was a Nash Metro out there with it just a gigantic motor sticking out of it. So
think about a roller skate with just all motor.
Speaker 3: This is just a bunch of toys there.
Speaker 2: There was it was, it was, it was.
Speaker 3: It was tons of toys, trucks, little monster trucks, little little toy trucks.
Speaker 2: They did. It got me thinking though, so and then
it was like, oh, I knew this was gonna happen.
Are talking. I was like, before you guys say anything,
because here it comes. I know. We got projects being
built but I was just like, it would be cool to build something just for for the rotten Custom show, something that's over the top, just stupid crazy. That's just
a toy, it's not made for anything, just a building to say we built it. It'd be fun. And I
got a kind of an idea kicking around. I threw it.
I'm gonna tell youybod, because nobody's still my idea yet.
But I threw it to Nathan. He was like, well,
I don't know. You know, we don't build things to
sell things. We build things to keep having a story.
Speaker 3: I'm just a practical guy. I don't want anything. I
just had the store. I mean, look, I think cool.
Those things are cool, but in the day, everybody sells them because it's just a practicality. Like i'd have something
that's cool, build up that you know, is more practical.
I could take, you know, for a road trip or to a car show or you know.
Speaker 2: I get it. Let me tell you what my problem is.
So as I thought about it, and I thought about what you said, because I's kind of going through and thinking about a little bit. My issue with some builds,
not cars, not like the bad Am Nope, building it for myself. That's you know, a build of that's something
I've wanted to do right right, so that car will never leave our side. Uh, the Nova has quickly become
a labor of love. That car probably just stick around forever.
A good price, good deal. So now if I build
something like a rod and did big motor stuff like that, once it's built, here's the reason why people sell the same thing. So I listen to what you said, and
I got I went a deep dive yesterday and I went to talk to people about I'm like, what do you all think about it? Here's something actually, no, we
seize them out. So it was something similar that because
I had the conversation with you, and then I was just curious. Am I the one that was on the
wrong side of the conversation. I'm like, all right, So
for you guys that build like super Dup or just toy hot rods with big blowers sticking out of the hood and stuff like that, do you keep them? I'm like,
or is it just a And it funny enough, it falls into the same category like Seema does. Right, A
lot of people build a Sema car, but once you've seen it, everybody has enjoyed it, appreciates your collaboration and effort put into it. But it's been seen, and then
that's why they get sold off. People think we sell
them off because we built it, we enjoyed it for a little bit. Everybody has seen.
Speaker 3: It, right, and you always add a little flavor in there that is not really practical right on percent.
Speaker 2: And then so somebody made a good point. I never
thought about those life. They're like, well, it's kind of
like a movie, right. You have this movie and you
go and you see it, and then everybody's seen the movie, and what do they do? They wait for the next
good movie to come out, and they want to go see that. They don't just keep on going back and
watching that one movie over and over again. Same thing
with building something like that. That's how it was described
to me as Okay.
Speaker 3: No, that's a terrible I thought it's a great analogy.
Speaker 2: But then I used the analogy. I was like, well,
wait a minute, I just watched Breakfast Club over the weekend for like a two hundred million time and enjoyed it just as much seeing it as I do. They're like, yeah,
but that's a classic. I'm like, well, see, we're onto something.
These are classics, they're classic cars. I'm like, it's kind
of They're like, you're it's a reach. They told me
it was a far reach. But I kind of get
what they were saying. I think, if I decide to
build something like this, I think I need to do it to the point where I'm doing it for me and for the labor, Like for something that I think is really really cool, so I enjoy driving it after the fact of showing it to everybody. I'll give you a.
Speaker 3: Better analogy, get I think of I think of it as like a cell phone. Right, you have it for
a little while, you love it, it's great, and the new thing comes out and you're like, you know what, you love it more. This thing is unpractical, and then
you give it away. I like that analogy better. It's
like it's like an old phone.
Speaker 2: Okay, no, no, no, I got it. Okay, what do
you say? No? No, no no.
Speaker 4: At first step one, we got to get it approved by the missus.
Speaker 2: Step two in that angle, we still got two project cards that week. We got to get done. But I
got reminded of that by the way.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I guess we have to talk about it on a commerci Sprek because I don't want you to give up the idea. I have to
see what you're thinking about building before, okay, because it has to be a car that we would want to keep.
Like said, it's a hot run we.
Speaker 2: Build, it's gonna be hot regardless. But yeah, okay, So
here's the thing. I can't tell you guys what is
because I really truly don't want anybody steal my idea.
And I, by the way, as a ton Nathaniel, I already have an angle on the car I like to play around with. If I'm thinking about if we all
get on the same patient, I all agree, I've already got a lead on the car to make it out of the problem with it is is if I did something like this, this would have to be done by next year's show. I'd have to have it done because
that would be the whole reason to do it, is to talk about on the show and then be able to build it. The good thing about it is is
everything to do on something like that shouldn't be an issue of waiting on parts. Like what we're building now
is a little different because the parts that we want waiting for the right parts coming stuff like that, because there's a little bit more, you know. Obviously the bad
AMS is a little bit higher end of a build for a lot of things I'm doing to it. This
is just throwing together a cool rod, you know what I mean. It's a little easier. There's not a lot
that you know, not to say there's not a lot that goes in there, because there is depends on how crazy you want to go. But maybe a little bit easier.
Like I said, but I have a cool idea, and I don't know, maybe I went down the rabbit hole way deep. I went and looked at uh. I looked
at a seventy three vet, and I thought about just putting a super stupid motor sticking out of it, you know, making it kind of more look like crazy, like a crazy hot wheel.
Speaker 4: I'd be done for that, I mean, because I would drive it around like.
Speaker 2: A hot wheel.
Speaker 4: We would have to put a hot wheel wrap on it, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, no, I wanted to have a cool color, but I would definitely like I do, like the red Lion tires like like that were the craziest motor sticking out of it can Then I started looking and I remember it.
I was like, wait a minute, didn't gas Monkey do one of those, and didn't they get it made into a hot I believe they got. I think it was
like a gold Corvette or something like that. Can't what
year it is, but there's something that kicks around my head, and I was like, okay, well, maybe not that your corvette.
Maybe do like an eighty four and eighty six vet and do it kind of crazy with just a big, big motor out of it. That'd be something different. I
don't know. But then we already had an idea of
what we want to do with vets, so I was like, okay, we already have our own idea that we want to do with some corvettes. And there would be too many
corvettes in the garage, so I was like, okay, that wouldn't work. Then I started looking at stupid stuff like
I looked at an old army truck and I was like, well, let me take an old army truck, put a blower in it or something. I don't know, and just because
it'd why are you shaking your head at me? Explain?
Go ahead?
Speaker 3: Well already said the practicality. I don't know, it's just
one that's practical, right, Yeah, I don't get I just don't get behind like the non practical bills sometimes just because like how you do it. It's cool for first,
but it's like do you not like rat rods though?
Speaker 2: Is that the problem? Because rat rods aren't practical?
Speaker 3: Some I like some. I think I think some have
good touches and some can be jon. I think some
can be practical. Yeah, like John shaunk is somewhat practical.
You know, he has a lot of artwork on it, make it what it is.
Speaker 2: We've got a friend that's got a like a a rat rod truck kind of looks like a highway patroled truck that if it was done like in the fifties, it's kind of cool. I like it. I always dug it.
I thought that was neat, So I got to think about that. It's like, well, why don't I get like
an old fifties cop car and then rotten out with the big huge motor sticking out of that'd be kind of something cool, you know, that'd be something different. Okay,
that'd be cool or go ahead.
Speaker 4: I got two ideas, one crazy idea just to go on with your crazy thoughts of it there.
Speaker 2: We could do a cemit truck. I mean, come up,
that would be of a lower cement truck, be kind.
But we could also build mader Okay, so whole tight not but funny you say that. I looked at six
tow trucks last night. It was like, what do we
just do like a really killer hot rod toad trucks? Yeah, like.
Speaker 4: It is you you do it for not for hire, you know, on the side of it stuff, and then you tow one of our own vehicles.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll show you. I have one I liked,
and I saw somebody did it years ago. They just
didn't do how I would do it. I liked. If
you guys remember that late seventies hot wheels had a white and blue wrecord tell you a little little hot wheel.
They had one, and then I saw somebody recreated it one of the other car shows. He recreated it made
like a drag truck style, but did it in that paint chop that kind of stop but doing it like as a rod, would you know, just killer motor sticking obvious.
You know.
Speaker 4: Man was winning me for a minute, Yes he was.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that.
Speaker 4: Yes, he went to the Grand Pricks and they gave him a whole paint job.
Speaker 2: I remember that. I remember what color was. You know
what color was? It just scares me on top because
I don't remember what color. Here's the reason why I'm
not allowed to go to cool car shows because then I I see things. I go, man, that would be cool.
And Nate and Cameron remember because the last really big car she went to there was almost walked away from Mustard that I was gonna say, remember the Laborghini. And
I was just like, man, that's what we ought to build.
Remember one of those?
Speaker 4: And later that you were looking, I.
Speaker 2: Was like, all right, so how much can I get a Laborghini for that? I'm just gonna tear apart into
a bunch of crazy stuff too. And I kind of
faded away from that a little bit. I still would
like but I told you guys, I still I still want a Ferrari and I want to l s it.
I still think that'd.
Speaker 4: Because I know we're coming close to mercier break. But
we're why we're the type of people to go how much do we need to win to walk away with a Mustang or a classic car?
Speaker 2: The thing about it is I I'm such a card.
I don't mind throwing stupid money at cool ideas. The
problem with it is is the three of us disagree sometimes on what the cool idea is. Nathaniel usually is
the voice of reason, even though I hate it. Where
he's like, maybe we shouldn't do this, Maybe we ought to put a pin in this for a second. How
about we don't purchase this and trailer at home and then regret it later. That's kind of where he's at
where I'm just like, I was already all in way before then. I'm just like, man, hook the trailer to
the truck. We're getting this thing. He's like, WHOA, can
we think about this for a second before we spend a bunch of money on this crazy idea.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm the guy that already has a toe hook in hand.
Speaker 2: He's like, this is what you want to do. He
was like, I gotta trump both of you guys. All right, guys,
I gotta take quick commercial breakwa come back. I got
some more for you, guys. I told you don't want
me to go to car shows. I come back to
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Let's Talk Cars Radio. You're automotive specialist.
Now back to your host Dave Polach.
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back to the show. So you guys
might think I'm crazy if you're listening to the last segment about how bad I go down rabbit holes. I'm
looking at ideas after going to car shows. But apparently
I'm not as crazy as it seems, because during the commercial break, the only thing that Nathaniel did was steadily scroll his phone looking for the next rat rod idea that we could build. He's like, well, maybe we're onto
something here. Let me show you this one. So apparently
I'm not the only one we're going to quickly.
Speaker 4: Run out of space in the garage.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think about having a big piece of property.
As I was reminded today, I think Nathaniel said to me.
He was like, maybe we're doing a little extra add on more than you thought to the garage. If we
can at this rate before.
Speaker 3: We get a wearehouse, right, all Like, what's that guy?
There's a guy that bought a warehouse, put all his colluestion of cars in it, and then he made a museum.
Speaker 2: You rent over done that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's perfect.
Speaker 4: I mean even our neighbors said, so, when're you guys are going to put an extension in the back garage And I'm just like, well, I didn't think I should.
Speaker 2: So the mega garage is big, and we call the megarage because of it. To us, it's big. I mean,
I know, trust me. For guys, my garage is bigger
than yours. Okay, great, I'm sure it is. I've seen it.
I know a lot of people have bigger garages of mine.
Mine's big for what we put what we're putting together.
Like I said, it started off as they sold to me as a sixteen car garage. By the time I
put on my toolboxes and things and stuff like that, you could squeeze probably twelve cars in there if you need to get them there tight it's tight, but I mean, how many people have that that much room. So to us,
we named it the mega garage because it serves purpose. Now,
the problem with it is is, as camera has stated, once you start putting things in it, we have the lift in it, we have equipment in it. By the
time you start putting things, everything has to go on a wall and has a place for it, so you just keep on taking up more room. By the time
you buy two pieces of equipment, that's essentially a car spot by the time you slide it in the corner, so you lose another car spot. And that keeps happy.
The more stuff that I buy over time, and I've owned a lot of stuff. I sold a lot of
stuff off when we moved here, and I find myself buying back the stuff I got rid of. I'm just
buying new stuff because a lot of stuff I had was older. So you know, I bought all brand new
welders because I'm like, welders are getting old.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: That's on a big cart, and that basically sitting in the corner takes up a car spot by the time it's on a big toolbox that rolls around. But it's
a big cart because I have a plasma cutter, I have every type of wealding machine on it. St like,
that's what just takes up a lot of space. And
now we talked about putting. You know, we're like, okay,
let's put maybe a sand blasting case in here. So
like that, essentially, everybody's like, well, that's smart. No, it's
it is a car spot. Once you put that in
the corner, you can't back that car up against the wall in that corner anymore. That's a car spot you
give up. I mean, even though it's not taking up
the full length of a car, the way it sticks off from the wall, you no longer can slide a car in that spottingy Moore. Now you give yourself some
more walking round room in that area, but you can't once that thing sticks out, you can not back in a car along that wall anymore like we could right now.
And that keeps happening. So that's the reason why we
talked about extending the garage. The reason why I didn't
make that. Originally, I was gonna make the garage forty
by thirty feet deeper than it is right the second I just I didn't know all my neighbors well enough and stuff like that. When I bought this piece, probably
not that I have people right on top of me, but I do have people that live around me. And
I was already quite bigger than what most people had sitting around. And I was just like, oh, I don't
want to be that guy that like buys a piece of property then builds something just crazy big. Now that
everybody's got to know me and knows I'm a car nut, I guess they kind of expect it from me a little bit, you know. And I was like, okay, well,
maybe I've had some ideas of doing the extension, Like okay, the original plants just do kind of extension to store project cars in the back so they're not in the main garage where everything will be done, and they put some of the we got tractors and stuff. And I
want to put the tractors in the back back there and keep them covered. So that's the idea right this second.
But as I started thinking about keep changing, they do, they do.
Speaker 4: We're dreams and goes and we I mean, and honestly we've also gotten to that age. I mean, what we've
spent almost eleven years that we've done the radio show We're not at age where we're gonna want project cars and we're gonna want a space to park the mat so that's start running.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I do the extension I planned on it, I can put a couple of project cars back there and put my tractors back there just fine and be fine.
But what happens when we buy again? Then I gotta
make a decision. Do I go bigger? Then I actually
started thinking about I was like, well, maybe, uh I looked at I saw cool dies. I didn't talk to
you guys about it yet, but I saw there's an addition that goes on because I have read metal building is what it started off. Even though mine's finishing the
inside with drywall all that kind of stuff, there's a two story extension that goes on there now, so it goes out and then it has a second story that looks over with windows over with the existing garage that can be added to it. And I thought that was
I was like, well, that's kind of cool.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, we'll remember, I'm gonna have a garage of my house, so you can always park a couple at my house.
Speaker 2: My house too. You know what happens when we start
filling your guys's garage, we'll trade.
Speaker 4: You're right, trade the mouth we're using. I'll take the
trans am. I'll take the Nova right now, you know, yeah,
and you guys can keep the hot ride.
Speaker 2: I had a buddy that was in the tow trucks.
Love tow trucks. It was into them, and he just
he started getting so many of them. He built a
tow truck museum. I mean, he was just still he
was buying tow truck He was in the tow truck business.
And then he started getting some of the old retired ones.
People are getting rid of me, and he started keeping him and then he was restoring him, fixing me for I know, he had a bunch of them and he just started making a tow truck museum. I was like, well,
that's kind of cool. I mean, like because that was
his passion. I know, I'm not saying to say I
want to own a museum, but it's not a bad idea.
I wonder that what's write off on that is, if you have it, if you could just write off all the car. He just buy two cars a year and
they just say, what bought it for the museum? And
someone's gonna one of the lawyers that listened to this show is going to tell me all the reasons why I can't do that. I'm sure it's a very good
he's a very good question. So, like I said, I'm
not crazy because I got them to start looking on the commercial break, I do have something that's story got sent to me. And it's funny because Nathaniel touched on
it well before we start the show today. So we've
talked about you guys know it. You can't get away
from it. Electric cars come up on conversation a lot.
You just can't having a car talk radio show, you can't get away from it. But there was a thing
going around last week and never got a chance to talk about electric cars. And I think I told you guys,
the stockpile of electric cars right the second is crazy.
They're just not moving that quickly. So they were doing
a study because the fact that there's so much money spent and there's so many of them, and they're sitting around the lots and they're not sold. What can be
done to move this process? And Nathaniel said, without me
even talking about the subject with them, he's like, well, we know what the problem with electric cars what.
Speaker 3: Is Yeah, so I'd say the problem with electric cars is we touched on a couple of times one those that have it already have it. Those that want it,
it's just too expensive, right, you know, Like I said, you know when we went on our trip. I have
a little bit of self driving features, but not like these other cars have just enough where it kind of just keeps it straight, and you know, I have power steering, but just you know, driving that far and having it just do as much. I'd spend twenty grand electric car
if you could get there and do everything you need.
Speaker 2: I told you so. I like the fact that we
have one to it and I don't have a Tesla that does everything for you, but mine does. It will
dry down the road and keep in the lane, and I don't have to keep my hands les stew and all that kind of stuff. And I can see the
attraction to that feature for road trips and stuff. I'm
a driver. I like to drive my vehicle, but it
was nice to be able to not have to pay attention to the car all that much. When I took
that road trip. If I got speed ticket on we
won't get into it. But it was nice not to
have to mess around with it. Now that backfired on me.
Even though the car was doing the speed they swear it wasn't, like I said, not gonna get into it.
You can say you can tump still better. I see
the attraction to it. The problem with it is is
it's the price point. If you want to move, If
you want to move people to buy cars, to buy electric cars, and you want to move more of them, get rid of them, a lot of them. The price
point has to be right. It has to be where
I go. Okay, for twenty thousand dollars, I could own
one of these, because that's what he said to me.
I never thought i'd hear any thing you ever said it. Yeah,
it was like for the right price point for a road trip. I can see it getting these not have
to worry about anything.
Speaker 3: I also think, you know, it's not just a plug in place scenario, even though you know, kind of kind of a joke because the electric is kind of plug and play. But anyways, it's not for the fact that
you know, like when you charge, you know, you have to charge it somewhere, so it's either going to be at home and you're you know, have to find some way to plug it in at home, either you know, get somebody to install one, or you're trying an extension court through your house, whatever how you do it right, or you go into one of those charger stations, but you know you're gonna have to walk. You know, it's
not as convenient, I would say as maybe you know having a gasoline car.
Speaker 2: At times it's I I think the.
Speaker 3: I think the convenience point is what they need to sell with a cheaper, you know, price point, because you know there is more convenience with the gasoline car. You know,
it doesn't really offset the price point.
Speaker 2: So here's what I noticed, right, So I I get a lot of stories you guys send me, and of course I told you guys, I kind of go through and see what makes sense to talk about for the week and what doesn't jive. Somebody literally send me an
article on one of the magazines. And you we all
had toys we grew up with that we allid right, I didn't have one that I can remember, but I know the toy. Well, you guys know a little tyke. Nope, Nope,
you guys don't know it. You'll know if I tell
you what it looks like it's the little red car with the yellow top and it has little weird and you push the little kids in it. You push them, Yeah,
weird bubble thing.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: They are now making the EV one, so it's still that toy, but instead of it being gatten out, it has like a plug in charge that comes off it, so you were ten plugging it in and charging it.
I think that's gearing the mindset for the next generation.
Speaker 3: Pretty smart, to be fair, those weren't very playful, you know, the gas lien versus we didn't have a gas cap, so you know, that's a plus. On the electric side,
I guess maybe all right, I guess it wasn't power wheels ahead of their time then.
Speaker 2: When I was younger, So yeah, power wheel is way on down the.
Speaker 4: Road, I know, but I'm just talking about like a because they already ran on.
Speaker 2: Batteries I never thought about I never put those pieces.
But you're right, so power wheel would have been ahead of their time in electric and then theory.
Speaker 4: I guess the upgrades like where you get better engines, like from the manufacturers from Tesla, where you get like the higher things would be us clipping out the batteries with.
Speaker 2: The drill batteries. I mean, that'd be equipment. I'm gonna
go outside, you guse you guys don't know this, but you'll I'll let you guys look it up. That'd be
like me taking my green machine. That was a big wheel.
By the way, for those that don't know, if there's a lot of you all listen to show to remember it and then saying well, I'm gonna put an electric feature on it, I mean, like I don't know, Like that's sweet. I told you I had the coolest big
wheel in town as far as I was. I had
the Chips Edition big wheel. It might had a real
siren and it had a walkie talkie that I could tell people to pull over with. I remember it. I
was like four, but I remember it was a chip the coolest kid on the block with it. I'm telling
you what. Mine had a radio and mine got FM stations.
Look obviously had an impact in my life. I remember
the Chips Edition big wheel I had, and I thought it was the coolest thing because I watched a lot of Chips. Another show I told you guys I used
to watch a lot was the.
Speaker 3: Oh Gods, did you watch it a lot.
Speaker 2: I did watch it a lot. Is it Rockford Files?
I had a thing about it, So Rockford Files. I
watched a lot. And the reason why is because, hey,
don't you make fun of me. My brain doesn't work
all the time. I got my graines. It messes my
brain up, Rockford Files. I never watched it for the
TV show. I told you guys, I watched it because
I had a firebird in it, and that's the reason why I watched it. And I also learned something about
that was the Jay turn. Was almost feels like everybody
invented the neatness of the Jay turn from because that's all that Carver did for a stunt in the whole show.
But always thought it was cool to watch so and that, you know, don't call me crazy. I got to take
another commercial break. I've be right back. Hold tight.
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Speaker 2: Polach Heys, Welcome back to the show. So, now, last second,
we were talking about things being stacked up on the dealership lots as far as electric cars. Do you know
what the other car that is stacking up that you could take advantage of right this second? Toyotas maybe, but
that's not the one I'm looking for. Could be Wow,
that's not the one I'm looking for any Apparently no jeeps, No, I thought, you know this. Apparently if you want a Corvette,
now is your time to strike. What So an article
came out this last pass. They're they're not selling there's
just too many of them and they're not selling one that's not so well. So I did make a telephone call.
Speaker 3: Yes, because anything priced over one hundred thousand, yeah, it's sitting there.
Speaker 2: Anything over one thousand and still sitting there. So I
made a call to my buddy that is involved with Chevy.
And I won't say where because I told I wouldn't.
But he told me he knows lots that still have twenty threes and twenty four stop brand new. They haven't moved.
Are so discounts though, he said, that's the problem. They're not.
They're still trying to get premium for him. Uh. And
they're trying to put like added charges on top of them for having them. And that's the problem.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing.
Speaker 4: Would I go get a twenty twenty three for the same price.
Speaker 3: I'll answer, I'll answer for sure. You know you don't
know why.
Speaker 4: Well, I know they have a different different.
Speaker 3: So I read an article and it kind of happened with the Mustangs too. So because of everything that's kind
of going on, the newer cars, you think would have more features, but actually they're not. They're taking features away
in the newer ones. So people were actually going back
to some of the older years so they can get the newer features.
Speaker 2: But I want the feature that much change from a better feature in a twenty twenty three, then you get a twenty twenty five. I wouldn't think would be a
better feature missing a feature, Magna track, stuff like that.
You talk about like some of that.
Speaker 3: Those are add on. I would say those are add ons,
but I say like a good like a good point of view is like Musting having Mustang.
Speaker 2: Back in the day.
Speaker 3: So like twenty fifteen's and I think like twenty thirteen's they there was more packages added on to vehicle stock, I believe, and then they were taken away so the package price would stay the same, so they didn't have to raise the price the value, they just took stuff away.
Speaker 2: It makes sense.
Speaker 3: I so like adjustable seats, I got.
Speaker 2: A number that I think is somewhat accurate, and he gave me kind of a spice between the two. How
many do you think corvettes right this second are laying around unsold right this second? What do you how many
you think if you had to take a stab at it?
How many do you say, Oh, you can't use your photos?
Speaker 3: No, I would say, I would say you probably need a number. How much was produced?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, go ahead, I'll give you. See you have,
like a good baby you phone to try to figure it out. I thought it was pretty staggering for the number.
Maybe it's not maybe because I don't realize how many were produced. Maybe that's the problem. But I thought it
was a pretty staggering number of how many are laying around.
Speaker 4: Twenty three thousand as well?
Speaker 2: I'm going no, no, nope, because nope, definitely not. You're
way outside the realm. But like too high or too low,
you're way too high?
Speaker 3: Okayud? Yeah, So I was gonna thought. I thought a
lot more were produced. So I'll give you there's about
fifty five thousand produced between twenty twenty three and twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: And how many unsold laying around the United States.
Speaker 3: Right this second? With that number, I'm gonna say twelve thousand.
Speaker 2: No, I'm going now.
Speaker 4: With that number, I'm probably gonna say about about four thousand.
Speaker 2: You're closer. So right this second, unhearable, there's fifty five
hundred of them that are not moving. They show longer
periods to sit on a lot. I think you said
for like three to four months that they've been sitting unsold, which is a lot that actually is that's a lot to be sitting around for a while. And the problem
with it is is because they added charges and put onto them. You know, the car should have been sixty
four to sixty seven thousand dollars and they put like a twenty thousand dollars additional onto it. Before you know what,
you're paying eighty some one thousand dollars and you don't have the coolest model out there, right, you know what I mean? That's that's just a lot.
Speaker 1: So the money don't the money don't.
Speaker 3: Equate three years ago.
Speaker 2: So now that now, if you guys remember on the show, and I think you weren't, I don't think you were doing shows with us at that point time. Yet camera
was coming in every once in a while and doing shows with us here and there. And we did a
whole episode where we went and got all the information and stuff. When we found that there was still like
two thy eighteen corvettes still laying around, remember because the new CAAMA came out. Yeah. Yeah, and there was tons
of them, and you could at that point time you were you could you were able to it. For they
were like we found everybody's like there's no way. When
we argued about it and then we went to our research, we found a lot of brand new ones cheating. They
were like in populated areas, they were like we were finding them in smaller like I'm not gonna put you guys out there like that, just so you understand, like it's not a bad thing, like like Kentucky, Tennessee. Small
towns like you know, Wyo. Small towns like Wyoming in
north about small Chevy dealerships had like two of them sitting there that hadn't moved. They just had because because
of the price point on. But now they had them
and they were willing to let them go and you could pick them up for nothing. Yeah.
Speaker 4: We were talking about like how these smaller cities or smaller towns are able to give you some better deals sometimes.
Speaker 2: What we know that to be true. We know that
we know that to be true on a person. So
I'll tell you because I think I told you. When
I went to go buy my Chevy truck here in We're a military town, they wanted a lot of money for my truck that I currently have, and I was like, I'm not paying that. I just I know that's not
the price I should be paying for that truck. And
of course I called around town, and everybody in town kind of had the same price point. But when I
did my research, I found out that when I ended up looking in small towns, the truck was drastically cheaper same truck. Now we're not talking about well apples and oranges, No,
it was apples and apples, and we're talking like it had exactly the features I wanted, and it was a drastic, drastic amount difference in price, and that was the only reason why I was able to negotiate. I did buy
the truck here locally, not right by me, but closed up we could drive to it. I bought the truck,
and I got it for the price I want it because I was able to find enough of what I wanted in small towns that were at the price point that I wanted to pay, and I was like, look, we're not talking about a one off here, We're not talking about a two off or a three off. Here's
all the ones. I found that if I'm willing to
take a half a day drive, I can go get the truck and I will for that kind of money.
We're talking ten over ten thousand dollars difference at that time in the truck. That's enough to motivate me to
get in the car and drive half a day to go pick up a vehicle. I mean like, I was like,
so if I can get it there, or you can sell it to me, which I know you can sell it to me for the same price, just choosing not to.
And that's led me down the road of learning how the price points were put on vehicles and how that kind of worked. Now I kind of knew because I
told you guys that. You know, I worked the toilet
dealership for a short period of time, and I remember on toyotas having to play the game back and forth because I'd get a customer that would come in and they want a car with certain features. We didn't have it,
but I'd find it in Kentucky somewhere sitting on someone's lot and I would call the Kentucky dealership and we would have to make with the dealership make arrangements to trade vehicles, like I'm gonna send you this vehicle and then you're gonna give me that vehicle, And a lot of times, the price point on what they wanted at their dealership versus us was very different. It was a
lot more expensive, same features on the car for the most part, But then they'd have to negotiate how they're going to do the trade because like, why I have it on there, like, well, there is really no negotiation on it because it is the same car, right. The
only difference is this guy wanted it blue when I have a white one, you know what I mean, Like the paint didn't cost any different in color. Now, I
understand if some of the features were different and stuff, but there was rarely was it that much of a price just between between the two. And they kind of
go back and forth with why am I gonna bring this one because we're moving a vehicle. It's a vehicle
for a vehicle, you know, I mean, So I'd understood that there's a lot of games played when it comes to that. Those of you that listen to the show
that owned dealerships. You guys understand a lot more than
I do because I don't have to deal with that.
I just know enough of being in the business and being around car people and being around the car seen that there's a whole lot of games to get played. Well.
For instance, Nathaniel's car. When we bought Nathaniel's car from
price point of what we knew we wanted to pay for the car, to the back room sale, there was a twenty two thousand dollars markup. Had he bought every
single thing that they tried to sell him on the car.
It was twenty two thousand dollars difference paint perfection or protection, the extended warranty, the tire warranty, the scratch the interior sealant, the paint cealant on top of a ceilant already has a sealant. It was like, well, by time it was
all sentences end. Yeah, right, absolutely, it was like twenty
two thousand dollars, Like, we're not buying any of that.
We just want the car, just the car at the price we did to negotiate it. I don't need well,
you know, you know.
Speaker 3: This, And that was how we kind of make the deal.
Speaker 2: He's like, we put that, kept saying that to him when they kind of addressed me, and I kept getting mad.
I'm like, I don't have the one buying the car.
Stop talking to me. He's buying the car. Why do
you keep them looking at me? Stop? Remember, I said, like,
stop talking to me. I'm not buying the car. But
they kept talking to me because I guess I'm the dad and I'm in the room. I'm like, I'm just
tiered ahead car.
Speaker 3: He assume, you know, just the adult is buying the deal.
Speaker 2: I get it. No, I got that, but I wasn't
buying the car. He was buying the car with his money,
not mine. He's buying it. But they kept on just
They're like, well, this is how we structure these deals.
This is the bottom line, out the door price. What
he gave you was the sale. What they're willing to
sell you for this out the door price. I'm like, no,
because we don't want any of those things. We need
to buy the car. Well, and then they were talking
about like they didn't want to do the deal unless we were going to buy all this stuff, and I'm like, no, we're not We're not buying that crap. First of all,
I'm not buying extended warranty from you. It's not worth
the paper written on. We're not doing that. I already
know it. Been in the business long enough. No, it's
not worth the paper it's written on unless it's well hopefully still true. It's a sena warranty. Look them up.
I've had great success with them over the years. But no,
I'm not supported by them. But they stuck by their stuff.
Other companies, most of them, I can't. You can't give
them to do anything over the years. All the years
I was in an automotive and steal with it, you couldn't give him pay for anything. So no, I'm not buying that
paint sealing protection. Car already has it on it. Why
do I need two more other ceilings by the way, which is one seventeen hundred dollars, one's twenty two hundred dollars.
You're going to seal on top of the ceial and then ceramic coat it for another four grand And we're not doing all that junk. I mean, like dude, no, no,
I know somebody does that. If I want it done,
I'll take it over to him, let do it for a quarter of that cost. I mean like it was
domb So I get it. And I understand how these
cars sit. I understand how expensive, and it's specialty cars.
There's a lot, especially now we're getting the point where there's a lot more cars sitting in these are railer cars.
And I've even touched with you guys, because I've been waiting for all the information come back where we are going to do a show on it. The craziness is
going on right this second with repos and how that's starting to get completely out of control again at which I told you guys forever it was going to and it's weirdy and it's crazy head again. And if you
don't believe me, just click onto one of the auction sites, go to any of them. There's tons of them out there.
And look how long the list is for cars that are sitting at auction. Where do you think those cars
came from? They're repost, guys, and there's tons of them.
And by the way, if you ever decide you want an RV or a boat, go to the auction site. Tons.
That is a whole nother business right The second all on its own that's the where to look. So yeah,
tons of cars sitting around, gotta find something to buy them.
I know we're going to fix them. I know, low
with the price, make them where people can afford them again, and then let me take commercial break. We're almost done.
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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back. So I told you I had
some like strange, crazy news things for you. If some
of the stuff we already talked about wasn't crazy enough, I'll fix that for you real quick. Remember the other
episodes ago we were talking about like new weird things, right, you guys, we were talking about it. He knows where
I'm going with this. I talked about we were talking
particularly about the grass floormats the cars that we thought was and I convinced me. Remember he commenced me it
was a good idea. I thought it was just a
chia pet. But I mean, and then we were talking
about crazy cars. Sense. Well, apparently, I tell you, guys,
it seems like every time we talk about something on the show, I swear somebody's listening, and they just side just invent more things. Apparently there's a new smell. If
if the smell of oil inside your car wasn't enough, member one of the new sentiments, it's a new air fresher.
How about tire smoke. Somebody decided to make tire smoke
air freshener. Just in case you need to have the
smell of tire.
Speaker 3: Question was, I thought, it's a bad name.
Speaker 2: What does tire? They call it cherry blossom tires smoke,
but it's still tires smoke.
Speaker 4: What I guess.
Speaker 3: Just be like burnt tire, right, because what it is burnt tire, That's what I would name it.
Speaker 4: And then my next question was is it a good year tire? I said that, I mean, who's making the
tire here?
Speaker 2: You want? You want to make, you want to make
a smell, but I'll buy. And I thought about that.
I know we talked about this the other day, but but after we got off the air, I started thinking about it. I was like, you know what I didn't
say that would be a good smell. And I told you, guys, Vegas,
I wanted to smell a Vegas desert when it rains.
If you could bottle that, I want it. I also
told you that I like to smell of fresh cut grass.
If you could bottle that as I want that. All right?
Can you think of saw dust? No? No, I know,
you know, I like, you know, building things, but no, nope, not saw dust.
Speaker 3: Firewood.
Speaker 2: Firewood would be good one, but I think that one exists.
I swear somebody bought me a candy years ago. You're close.
Speaker 4: You're close diesel or something like the race fuel.
Speaker 2: If you could bottle the smell of race fuel. I
like the smell of race set, the great smell. If
you could bow that.
Speaker 9: I'm not trying to say I'm gonna sprits it all over myself or hose my car down with it or anything like that, but I mean this, by the way, this cherry blossom tire smoke is apparently a clone for.
Speaker 2: A perfume or what do you want to call it.
I can get you some There's somebody that makes something that I've seen it advertisement. It's talked about being like
smell like the races or something like that. I just
wonder if that smells like race.
Speaker 10: Fuel, I have to buy it. It'd be great for
my clothes. So if that isn't crazy crazy enough.
Speaker 2: News for you, what if I told you that Wendy's has a discount that you guys never even heard of.
That's right, Wendy's.
Speaker 3: I want to be surprised because I don't really get that.
Speaker 2: I don't really get it. You guys used to you
guys used like the chicken nugget.
Speaker 4: They're on a Frosty discounts.
Speaker 2: It's not a Frosty discount, Nope, this one's This one's a little.
Speaker 4: Bit out there, which is what dis kind is it?
I need it now just to know.
Speaker 2: Apparently if you're a Wendy's employee, you get a discount if you buy a hell cat. For being a Wendy's employee,
I guess it has to be a hellcat my understanding the little article they sent.
Speaker 3: Over to me, you a one free meal, you get a hell.
Speaker 2: Cat, You get discount on buying a hell cat if you work at Wendy's.
Speaker 3: No kid, the owner probably really liked the hell cat.
Speaker 2: Then, first of all, this goes bad much a discount, I don't know. I had to figure it out. I can't.
It can't be anything more And look at up. It
can't be anything more than the four discount because like a Floord employee discount, because we use that before we purchase a car, and then I use the Chevy loyalty program once I've used the Toyota loyalty one that they had once, so imagine it could be anything more than what those give you. But first of all, this is
did I tell you guys. I know I did.
Speaker 3: We talked about one percent of factory invoice.
Speaker 2: One percent. Well, that's not a whole lot of money.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be about twenty Okay.
Speaker 2: First of all, who at Wendy's is buying a hell Cat?
That's what I can't know. I mean, no, it's you're
like an executive or something like that. I know what
the car payment is on a hell Cat?
Speaker 4: Does the does the discount kick in like on day Wille?
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I mean just go go be an employee for one day, going right down to dealership.
Talking about that. Now, I ask the question, how much
is when he's paying an hour that you're driving a hell Cat to go flip Burgers. I just I need
to know what that he's looking. He's like, oh, find
out what Wendy's face.
Speaker 4: Like between ten to seventeen dollars?
Speaker 2: You were seventeen.
Speaker 4: I don't think answers fifteen to twenty five Okay, I don't think that's buying a hell Cat though, No, because hell Cat's what right now?
Speaker 2: What are the eighty nine ninety thousand right now for hell Cat?
Speaker 3: Just pi just shy, Yeah about ninety.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's gonna be more than you made in a year.
Company Still the car payment a year, I don't it's got to be for like exactly, there's no I mean, I guess it's for everybody. If you work out winds,
you get it.
Speaker 3: But but at the point it's not really for everybody.
Speaker 2: I think this falls under these category of buy responsibly maybe just a little bit.
Speaker 3: It's a great idea.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: I think companies personally should do more partnerships like that.
Like if you if a company you know, stands by a product and they personally use it, then you know there should be you know, some type of joint partnership with the employees.
Speaker 4: They're allowed to spread it out for seven to two months, okay, so they given a longer period on the book, Okay, okay, maybe okay, So that's why even then that's still a very expensive car payment. It does say at the end
the interest is going to be a skyrocket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll you'll put you'll pay payment or something like that on the end or something. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I mean, alright, probably I am of entro.
Speaker 2: I got another one for you. I told you some
crazy news before we got out of here. Okay, here
about Tesla and you guys know, I'm Tesla fan, like Tesla's like Lucid Motor two. Although I heard that they're
having a rough first quarter. But that's I heard.
Speaker 4: They say, started packing our packages with the teslas, but never to arrive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're still waring for those teslas to come.
They have not. They tell me they're in the mail.
I don't know, we'll see. Apparently they're messing with Tesla's
and they're there testament to just see how responsive they are by using old classic cartoons and putting them in front of like the cameras and the vehicles are reacting to the cartoon that it's watching. I guess maybe they're
the Only thing I can think of is the tunnel, like the cartoon where they put you know, they write that they draw the tunnel on the rock, and maybe the Tesla's are not reacting correctly. That's the only thing
I can think of how that works. Somebody tell me
which what one they're doing that's messing with a Tesla, But that's the only one that comes to mind. I mean,
because the only other thing I remember is, like, you know, why the coyote falling off cliffs and stuff like that, and I think that'd be a really horrible thing.
Speaker 4: I yeah, but like I can understand why though. So
it's like I feel like it was only designed to like go, oh, that's a car. That's a traffic light.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 4: Now they're giving TVs where it's like, oh, that's a TV and this is the TV show. It's like so
much more learning you're gonna to make the car.
Speaker 2: I don't remember what I was in, but I rode in a vehicle the day. I think it was an
uber and I noticed that it did. It was first
car bed and it does not have side mirrors. It
has cameras for the side mirrors. This the first one
I've been in. Yeah, there's no regular side mirrors. It's
actually cameras side And I know I talked about seeing that and I was like, oh, I was like, I hadn't seen that done yet. That's kind of cool. Like
I know it was coming, but I had not been in a vehicle with that technology yet.
Speaker 3: I do prefer just having my mirrors, though I've been in the vehicles with them. I'm just not a big fan.
Maybe it's like a little time to get used to.
But I think I'm just kind of used to.
Speaker 4: What I liked about this one like if it breaks, does it say no signal? That's just going to really
make you want to fix it.
Speaker 2: Right, That's what I told you. That's why I worry
about electronics and cars. What I did like about this
one was is on it it told you the distance of the object that was driving behind you, like how close it was, and if it was in your blind spot.
It lets you know that you could see the blind spot.
It lets you knew the blind spot, and then how many feet it was within your blind spot. So it's cool.
I thought that was how I was paying attention because I thought was neat.
Speaker 4: I was like me, if it like started beeping, was like you're about to hit you know, in your case.
Speaker 2: It would talk to you all the time. I turn aggressive.
All right. So the last one as far as technology was,
remember I told you I think that we need to redesign some things in cars, and I was talking about the way Win show wipers work, or the way headlights work, all that kind of stuff. Some things I think we
can we can improve upon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like we all said one thing that we would change, right.
Speaker 2: One of the things I didn't think of it. I
don't think Apparently they're thinking about redesigning the tailgate on trucks again. How it's a great idea. You have it,
how tell me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but do you see like we have it folded down.
Speaker 2: Toyota now has it folded sideways. The only other way
is fold up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think it's more the fact of how it folds. It's more about the practicality, you know,
back to that it's.
Speaker 2: Practically but you.
Speaker 3: See, like how the newer trucks are like turn your your bit of the truck into like a sea or a cooler.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen it, you know, having you.
Speaker 3: Know, multiple purposes and just being you know, the whole stuff, you know, from falling out.
Speaker 2: I like that idea, like so like I think they should bring back the cooler in it and stuff like that.
It makes sense. I get it.
Speaker 3: Like I think they should bring back like the size steppers.
I'd always liked the size steppers.
Speaker 2: I hated that look. Really, yeah, I don't like that look. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I think it depends, like there's different models, like someone like on the side, some are right.
Speaker 2: I didn't believe it or not yet, yep, mark this on your calendars. I did like the Ford Flare side.
I thought it was a cool looking truck for its time.
So I did like that certain models, so you can mark a calendar, I said, I like the Ford truck.
I remember, I told you guys, I used to drive Ford trucks for us to Showy many many many moons ago, and I just got tired of getting forward on my hands because I had to work on it all the time.
So that's the reason why I switched. But I did
like the Ford Flare side. My buddy had one. It
was done very cool, and I did like his truck.
And believe it or not, less than ten years ago, I almost bought a jacked up Ford truck again, and I talked myself out of it only because it was done very nicely. It was restored very well. Uh, and
the price point was super super right on that truck.
I should have probably bought that truck even though I'm a Chevy guy. The price point was great, exactly what
I was kit with boggers on it. It was a
cool looking.
Speaker 3: Truck, exactly what I was kind of talking about. And
those those did look good for a time.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, yeah, like I said, it is, Cameron, you got that look on your face. What are you looking
to like that for?
Speaker 4: Because I looked up the Ford flare side to see what it looked like, and it showed be a pink Ford truck.
Speaker 2: That's cool. Yeah but it was, Yeah, but it did.
It was. My buddy had one that was tricked out.
He had it souped up, hit it lower, a little bit lower the ground, and it was It wasn't slammed, but it just had the right stance to it. It was
a nice looking truck.
Speaker 3: I just like the truck from Fast and the Furious.
Okay one, I know you not, but uh no, yeah back in the future.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a Toyota.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, basically yeah.
Speaker 2: But Fast and Furious did have Afford in it had a Ford truck in it that you did like to use.
Tell me use like to And I think that was all.
It might have been a lightning, it might have been.
I think it was a lightning the new thing for the change before we get out of because I got a roll they're talking about making tailgates where they roll up like a roll up garage door. I was right,
That's why I wanted to be down before we left because you were close. I think that's kind of goofy.
I have to see what it looks like. I saw
the patent. Uh, somebody sent me over the patent for it,
and look at I don't haven't really seen it in play.
Kind of different. I don't know you guys so much.
You guys think. On that note, I gotta go ahead
and get out of here. It is Saturday. Enjoy your
guys Saturday. Make sure that you are getting out to
car shows and enjoying the weather. Sunday's right around the corner.
Make sure you unplug, spend some time with your kids, play board game, fire at the barbecue grill. Oh, and
don't forget, it's Mother's Day weekend. So Happy Mother's Day
to all your mother's out there. Hope you guys are
enjoying it. Maybe you get some good gifts. Hey, maybe
it's a car. I don't know if that's what you're into.
On that note, we're out of here. I'll talk to
you soon.
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