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Carvana SHOCKS The Auto Industry | Episode 1084

Carvana SHOCKS The Auto Industry | Episode 1084

CarEdge Live Jun 05, 2026 28 min
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CarEdge Live digs into why Carvana is rattling the auto industry, starting with a Wall Street Journal report on Carvana’s used-car growth and its new-car push that “has dealers rattled.” The hosts connect Carvana’s expansion to Jeff Bezos’ direct-to-consumer “Slate” effort, including Slate’s $650 million series C and Carvana warrants. They also discuss how online, AI-driven shopping and shipping could reshape dealer models—while used-car prices stay elevated amid a shortage of low-mileage late-model inventory.

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Company

FTC

"The other wake-up call for the industry is what we spoke about yesterday with what the FTC is doing. This feels different and deeper, though, Deb, because they're now partnering to a degree."

FTC is a U.S. government agency that looks out for consumers and tries to prevent unfair business practices. If the FTC is involved, it can mean rules or investigations that change how car companies sell and market vehicles.

Term

equity

"This feels different and deeper, though, Deb, because they're now partnering to a degree. I mean, they're going to have equity, or at least the option to get equity, in one of these companies that is incredibly, it has a ton of interest."

Equity means owning part of a company. If you get equity, you can make money if the company becomes more valuable over time.

Company

Slate

"I mean, they're going to have equity, or at least the option to get equity, in one of these companies that is incredibly, it has a ton of interest. I mean, Slate has a ton of interest. Jeff Bezos is backing it."

Slate is a company being talked about as an EV-related product that’s getting a lot of attention. The hosts are suggesting Carvana might partner with it to help it grow faster.

Person

Jeff Bezos

"I mean, Slate has a ton of interest. Jeff Bezos is backing it. The product that they've presented to the market has garnered tons of headlines."

Jeff Bezos is a famous tech entrepreneur and investor. In this segment, he’s mentioned because his backing is seen as a vote of confidence for the EV company being discussed.

Company

Lordstown Motors

"What were some of those EV companies that went out of business really quick? This is not Lordstown Motors. This has a different feel to it, and this is not related to the FTC."

Lordstown Motors is mentioned as an example of an EV company that failed quickly. The point is to contrast it with the current situation being discussed, implying this new effort may be different in structure or prospects.

Company

Carvana

"It is a little bit related, obviously, to your point, around 2 million use car sold, but they could be selling 2 million new cars soon if Slate blows up and Carvana is part of the reason why. Well, I almost am amazed that Jeff Bezos would get in bed with Ernie Garcia III and Carvana, but perhaps he sees it as a way to more quickly scale Slate."

Carvana is a company that sells cars online, especially used cars. The hosts are saying Carvana could help another company grow faster by partnering with it.

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use car

"It is a little bit related, obviously, to your point, around 2 million use car sold, but they could be selling 2 million new cars soon if Slate blows up and Carvana is part of the reason why."

A used car is a car that someone owned before you. The hosts are talking about how many used cars Carvana sells and whether it could sell lots of new cars too.

Person

Ernie Garcia III

"Well, I almost am amazed that Jeff Bezos would get in bed with Ernie Garcia III and Carvana, but perhaps he sees it as a way to more quickly scale Slate."

Ernie Garcia III is a business leader associated with Carvana. The hosts are basically saying this is a big-name, high-stakes partnership.

Term

CDJR

"Carvana took what was it, eight Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram dealerships and became some of the top volume CDJR dealerships in the country."

CDJR is a shorthand for Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, and Ram. A “CDJR dealership” is a car store that sells cars from those brands.

Concept

publicly traded dealer group

"So, do you think, then, that perhaps every large publicly traded dealer group will become its own manufacturer of product as well? No, I think that's what's unique here to Carvana."

This means a big dealership company that’s owned by investors and listed on the stock market. The host is asking whether those large groups might start making cars themselves instead of only selling them.

Concept

manufacturer of product

"So, do you think, then, that perhaps every large publicly traded dealer group will become its own manufacturer of product as well? No, I think that's what's unique here to Carvana."

The host is talking about a dealership company going beyond selling cars and trying to make cars (or its own branded offerings). It’s a big business-model change, not just a new way to advertise.

Company

Penske

"No, I don't think Penske is going to come out and say, now we're selling what's another Slate Auto, you know, I don't think that's... Well, I wouldn't necessarily say that because when Saturn went under, Penske was in negotiations to take over Saturn and become the manufacturer of Saturn. So, this is something that Penske explored in the early 2000s when Saturn was shuttered."

Penske is a big business in the auto world. The host is bringing up Penske’s history to suggest that large companies sometimes look at making their own products, not just selling cars.

Brand

Saturn

"Well, I wouldn't necessarily say that because when Saturn went under, Penske was in negotiations to take over Saturn and become the manufacturer of Saturn. So, this is something that Penske explored in the early 2000s when Saturn was shuttered."

Saturn was a car brand that eventually got shut down. The host is using it as an example of how big companies sometimes try to step in when a brand collapses.

Concept

buying public

"Manufacturers, for the most part, have gotten out of hand when it comes to what it is they've decided to build and how it is they've decided to price it. And they have taken the vast majority of the buying public out of being buyers. So, I mean, we talk about it all the time, you know, they're selling vehicles to 13 to 15% of the population out there."

This just means the general group of people who might want to buy cars. The host is saying current pricing and choices make it so most people feel like they can’t realistically buy.

Concept

13 to 15% of the population

"So, I mean, we talk about it all the time, you know, they're selling vehicles to 13 to 15% of the population out there. Slate would appeal to the other 87 to 85% of the population that feels as if they can't participate."

The host is throwing out a rough number: they claim only a small slice of people (around 13–15%) are actually buying cars. The argument is that the rest feel left out, so a new approach could capture that bigger group.

Company

General Motors

"you could take Stalantis, General Motors, you could take Ford, you can combine their market values and it still won't add up to Carvana's market value..."

General Motors is a major old-line car manufacturer. In this clip, it’s mentioned because the hosts are comparing company sizes and market values.

Company

Stalantis

"Yes, but my suspicion would be is that you could take Stalantis, General Motors, you could take Ford, you can combine their market values and it still won't add up to Carvana's market value..."

This sounds like the speaker is talking about Stellantis, a big car company. They’re comparing the size of traditional automakers to Carvana’s influence in the car-buying market.

Company

Ford

"you could take Stalantis, General Motors, you could take Ford, you can combine their market values and it still won't add up to Carvana's market value..."

Ford is a big car company. The hosts bring it up to compare how valuable traditional automakers are versus Carvana.

Term

direct to consumer

"There's legislation in many states for manufacturers to sell direct to consumer. There are companies like Carvana, which have historically been just used car dealers..."

“Direct to consumer” means the car is sold straight to you, not through a traditional dealer network. The hosts say laws in some states are making this easier, which can change how car buying works.

Company

Amazon

"You've got Amazon playing a role in the auto space, not doing a ton and nothing necessarily that innovative to you and I, but it's Amazon for goodness sake."

Amazon is referenced as a non-traditional player trying to influence the auto space. The segment suggests Amazon has a role in car buying, but not necessarily as innovative as Carvana’s approach.

Company

root insurance

"Carvana also plays already in the insurance space with the root insurance. So like, I don't know, I can just see the whole world of car buying changing materially here."

Root Insurance is an insurance company mentioned as part of Carvana’s business. The hosts are saying Carvana is expanding beyond selling cars into related services like insurance.

Term

AI agent

"think you forgot to mention one other company. And that would be CarEdge with their AI agent ability [572.7s] to be able to shop on behalf of people."

An AI agent is like a smart assistant that can do tasks for you. In this case, it’s meant to help with car shopping—finding options and helping you move through the process.

Company

CarEdge

"think you forgot to mention one other company. And that would be CarEdge with their AI agent ability [572.7s] to be able to shop on behalf of people."

CarEdge is a company that’s trying to use AI to help you shop for a car. Instead of you doing all the searching and comparing, the AI agent helps do that work for you.

Concept

disruptors

"So yes, Carvana and Slate could be disruptors or disruptors. [603.5s] Yeah, yeah, they are."

A “disruptor” is something new that shakes up an industry. In this segment, it means companies that could change the usual dealership-style way of buying cars.

Term

deposit

"it's talking about this guy, Josh, [635.2s] who swore off ever buying a Dodge product again because he lost his $500 deposit and had a few [642.3s] bad experiences at their franchise dealership."

A deposit is money you pay upfront to hold something or start a deal. In car shopping, it can be used to reserve a car, and losing it can be a big deal for buyers.

Concept

franchise dealership

"it's talking about this guy, Josh, [635.2s] who swore off ever buying a Dodge product again because he lost his $500 deposit and had a few [642.3s] bad experiences at their franchise dealership."

A franchise dealership is a traditional car store that sells a specific brand’s cars under an agreement with the manufacturer. The segment uses it to explain why some buyers may be unhappy with the usual dealership experience.

Brand

Dodge

"it's talking about this guy, Josh, [635.2s] who swore off ever buying a Dodge product again because he lost his $500 deposit and had a few [642.3s] bad experiences at their franchise dealership."

Dodge is a car brand. In this story, the host mentions it because the buyer had a bad experience related to trying to buy a Dodge.

Brand

Jeep

"He then bought a Jeep from a Carvana dealership [649.4s] a thousand miles away."

Jeep is a car brand. In the segment, the buyer switches to a Jeep after a bad experience with a different brand and ends up buying through Carvana.

Brand

Toyota

"and are those vehicles going to be similar, Dad, [676.9s] to what Toyota did when they first came to this country in the 60s? Simple vehicles, [682.3s] get you from point A to point B."

Toyota is a major car brand. The host is using it as an example from the 1960s to compare how a new approach can start simple and still change the market.

Term

customizing

"And then you, as the customer, can start adding things and customizing it any way you want. But the initial pricing of it is going to be so relatively inexpensive to its competitors..."

Here, “customizing” just means choosing options or changes for the car to match what you want. The point being made is that the base car stays affordable, but you can still personalize it.

Car

Ford Bronco

"... It's not like you're going to start and become a Bronco Philson, okay? If you can run a slate vehicle up ..."

The Ford Bronco is a type of SUV designed to handle rough roads and off-road trails. It’s made for drivers who want a vehicle that can go beyond normal pavement. It may be mentioned in the context of how much it costs or how capable it is.

Brand

Mini

"And when I was at Mini, the whole concept about Mini is that you can make Mini yours in the sense that there's like a million different ways to build a Mini between an interior, paint colors, this and that."

Mini is used as an example of a brand that leans into personalization—offering many choices for things like interior and paint so buyers can “make Mini yours.” The host contrasts that approach with most manufacturers’ more fixed option sets.

Concept

mass market

"shows, at least in my mind, that this system, as we know it, is broken, which is something we've been screaming about forever for, I don't know, like six years, as to how do you change the system so that it isn't broken and it's more appealing to the mass market out there."

Mass market just means regular, everyday car buyers—not a small group of enthusiasts. The hosts are saying the current system doesn’t work well for those mainstream shoppers.

Company

Blackbook data

"Yeah, I do think that's part of the equation here, but it is interesting. I know the Blackbook data [1301.5s] shows the Slate decline and use car prices. Yeah, but the Cox Automotive Mannheim data [1307.0s] shows prices up just a little bit."

Black Book is a company that provides pricing information for cars. In this discussion, they’re used to support claims about whether used-car prices are changing.

Company

Cox Automotive Mannheim data

"Yeah, I do think that's part of the equation here, but it is interesting. I know the Blackbook data [1301.5s] shows the Slate decline and use car prices. Yeah, but the Cox Automotive Mannheim data [1307.0s] shows prices up just a little bit."

Cox Automotive is a company that tracks car-market data. Here, they’re being cited to show what’s happening to car prices and inventory levels.

Term

market day supply

"Even the Blackbook data shows that the market day supply [1315.5s] and days to turn. I think days to turn, which is how long it takes an average dealer to turn [1322.9s] their inventory, is 33 days, which is nothing."

"Market day supply" is a way to measure how many cars are available compared to how fast they’re selling. If there are lots of cars sitting around, it can push prices down; if cars are scarce, prices tend to stay higher.

Term

days to turn

"Even the Blackbook data shows that the market day supply [1315.5s] and days to turn. I think days to turn, which is how long it takes an average dealer to turn [1322.9s] their inventory, is 33 days, which is nothing."

"Days to turn" is basically how many days it takes a car dealer to sell the cars sitting on their lot. If it takes a long time, it usually means sales are slower and dealers may have to adjust prices.

Term

buy here, pay here

"Carvana is not in the business selling cars. They're in the business of selling loans. [1359.6s] They're aiming to be the ultimate buy here, pay here of the internet. [1363.6s] Well, yes. I've said it before, pun intended, the vehicle that they use to be able to sell [1370.2s] loans is well-selling vehicles."

"Buy here, pay here" (often abbreviated as BHPH) is a financing model where the seller finances the purchase directly and collects payments from the buyer. It’s commonly used for customers who may not qualify for traditional bank or credit-union auto loans.

Term

on the lot for 165 days

"Talked to my local Mazda dealer. They have a car that's been on the lot for 165 days and would only budge 300 bucks off the price I laughed."

“Days on the lot” means how long a car has been sitting at the dealership without being sold. If it’s been there a long time, it often means the price or demand isn’t great, and that can open the door to a better deal.

Term

budge 300 bucks off the price

"They have a car that's been on the lot for 165 days and would only budge 300 bucks off the price I laughed."

They’re talking about how much the dealer would lower the price. Even though the car had been sitting for a long time, the discount was only about $300.

Concept

not more negotiable

"I do think it's surprising that there are these vehicles that sit for months on months and not more negotiable. I will. Seemingly."

They mean the dealer wasn’t willing to lower the price much, even though the car had been sitting. Sometimes you’d expect a bigger discount, but the dealer still won’t move.

Term

Unsold 25 days and over 200 days

"The best used cars are Unsold 25. Unsold 25 days and over 200 days. Wait, here we go."

This is a way of grouping cars by how long they’ve been sitting unsold. The longer a car sits, the more likely it is the dealer may eventually offer a better price to get it sold.

Car

2025 Bronco Sport Top Trim

"2026 is currently you can buy a 2025 Bronco Sport Top Trim for the price of a 2026 BS lowest trim. That would be Bronco Sport lowest trim. Bronco Sport lowest trim."

The Ford Bronco Sport is a small SUV. Here they’re saying you can sometimes pay the price of a cheaper version of a newer model, but get a higher trim on the previous year.

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