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Classic Auto Mall - #243 Stewart Howden and Guests Rick DeBruhl of Barrett-Jackson Auctions and Keith Martin of Sports Car Market

Classic Auto Mall - #243 Stewart Howden and Guests Rick DeBruhl of Barrett-Jackson Auctions and Keith Martin of Sports Car Market

Classic Auto Mall SHOW May 16, 2026 57 min
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About this episode

Broadcast from Morgantown, Pennsylvania, the show kicks off with auction talk, then zooms out to the Barrett-Jackson world—weather, bidding drama, and standout segments like the blindfold “feel the steel” game. Guests and hosts connect the dots between auction visibility and the restomod surge, including Corvettes pulling eye-popping prices. The conversation also gets practical: how to verify claims, why mechanical reliability beats cosmetics, and even classic driving techniques like double clutching and heel-toe. Along the way, there are shop stories, race-driver anecdotes, and event updates.

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Concept

restomods

"I think it's given a lot of people a new appreciation for rest omods because you guys light it up with the rest omods out there."

A restomod is an old car that’s been fixed up and also improved with newer parts. It keeps the classic style, but it’s often easier to drive and more dependable than the original.

Car

Chevrolet Corvette

"..., the dollar figures that those things from those Corvettes, from Jeff Hayes that are bringing seven or $800,..."

The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car made by Chevrolet. People talk about it a lot because some versions are rare and can sell for a lot of money at auctions. That’s why it comes up when collectors are comparing prices.

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mid-year Corvettes

"you know, for the longest time, especially with Corvettes, mid-year Corvettes, we've talked about, you know, you modified"

“Mid-year” Corvettes are cars made partway through a model year. Sometimes they have special mix-and-match details from before and after the changes, so collectors notice them.

Concept

rest-o-mod craze

"And then one day we started to see the beginning of the rest-o-mod craze start to pop where people were doing, you know, nice rest-o-mod conversions, adding breaks, adding, you know, better radiators, whatever it may be, and suddenly the prices started to creep up."

A rest-o-mod is an old car that gets kept looking classic, but gets updated with newer parts so it drives better. The hosts are saying this trend became popular and started making these cars cost more.

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split window

"And now, I mean, the thought of taking a split window, 63 Corvette modifying was a heresy years ago."

“Split window” is a Corvette body style where the rear window is split into two parts. The host is saying that modifying that kind of Corvette used to be considered a bad idea.

Car

Cadillac Escalade

"...say this all the time, you get out of a brand new Escalade and you get in a 69 DZ302 Z20A, you're going to s..."

The Cadillac Escalade is a large luxury SUV. It’s meant to be comfortable and feature-rich for everyday driving. The podcast mentions it to contrast how a modern luxury SUV feels compared with an older classic car.

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air conditioning

"And you really would like that fifth gear and the better breaks stereo and the air conditioning and yada, yada, yada, right?"

Air conditioning is the system that cools the car’s cabin. The host is saying people miss features like this when they drive older cars.

Concept

straightaway

"You know, he knew the revs he was at going down the straightaway loan away by what he did."

A straightaway is the straight part of a race track. Cars usually go faster there, so what the engine and car do under steady throttle matters a lot.

Concept

rev

"You know, he knew the revs he was at going down the straightaway loan away by what he did."

“Revs” means how fast the engine is spinning. In racing, drivers pay attention to revs because it changes how quickly the car accelerates and how the engine feels.

Car

Porsche 917

"And you realize, I mean, here's a guy who drove both a Porsche 917 and a Ferrari 512 who could actually talk about the differences between those two cars."

The Porsche 917 is a famous old race car that competed in endurance races. It’s known for being extremely fast and historically important in racing. Comparing it to another car usually means comparing how different the driving and design are.

Car

Ferrari 512

"And you realize, I mean, here's a guy who drove both a Porsche 917 and a Ferrari 512 who could actually talk about the differences between those two cars."

The Ferrari 512 is a famous old Ferrari race car from the 1970s. It’s known for a strong V12 engine and for racing at the highest level. In comparisons, people focus on how the car feels and behaves differently.

Concept

jump-starting

"Brian Redmond owned the McQueen one for a while and there was a story he told about pushing it down his gravel driveway and jump-starting."

Jump-starting means using another battery to get a dead car started. It’s a common way to revive a car when the battery doesn’t have enough power on its own.

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drive train

"trying to see if I can see some flexing in the drive train, you know, if it's popping, got it up on the rack."

The “drive train” is the set of parts that sends power from the engine to the wheels. They’re checking it because something seems to shift or make noise when the car accelerates or brakes.

Concept

got it up on the rack

"trying to see if I can see some flexing in the drive train, you know, if it's popping, got it up on the rack. Finally, I call over one of our veteran guys..."

“Up on the rack” means the car is lifted so you can look underneath. Mechanics do this to spot problems in parts you can’t see from the ground.

Concept

blindfold feel the car test

"one of the coolest segments, I think, is the blindfold feel the car test because that was one of my favorites."

This is a game where people wear blindfolds and try to judge a car just by touching it. The goal is to notice things you can feel—like how solid or well-finished it seems—without looking.

Car

Cadillac El Dorado

"on the car and feel what it is. I mean, a 59 Cadillac El Dorado Brits, pretty easy on the tail fins. Everything e..."

The Cadillac Eldorado is a luxury car made by Cadillac. The podcast is talking about an older 1959 version, which is famous for its big tail fins. People bring it up because it looks distinctive and stands out.

Car

Cadillac El

"on the car and feel what it is. I mean, a 59 Cadillac El Dorado Brits, pretty easy on the tail fins. Every..."

The Cadillac ELR is a luxury car that uses both electricity and a gasoline engine. The podcast mentions it while talking about different Cadillacs and how they feel. It’s included because it’s a specific model people can compare when looking at cars.

Concept

feel the steel

"Steve Mignante was the guy who came up with this, called it feel the steel."

“Feel the steel” is a game where you use your hands to figure out what car it is, without looking. The idea is that experts can recognize cars by their shapes and details.

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A pillar

"we would put their hand on the A pillar of the car. And then it's like, all right, start feeling around"

The A pillar is the vertical metal support at the front of the car, near the windshield. It’s a good “starting point” for this blindfold game because different cars have different shapes there.

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base price

"I mean, you're looking at a car that for, you know, with a base price of $70,000, it is just amazing."

Base price means what the car costs when you buy it with no extra options. Any add-ons usually increase the total price.

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option stacking

"people will tell you all the time, you know, that if you're going to get a Corvette, oh, you got to get this option, this option. And it's over 120 grand."

They’re talking about how choosing lots of add-ons can make the final price jump a lot. The takeaway is that a simpler build can still be a great car.

Car

Corvette Z06 Corvette

"...e here to buy a car, don't overlook a 10 year old Z06 Corvette, because it's a lot of car for them. I mean, you ..."

A Corvette is a sports car, and the Z06 is a higher-performance version of it. The podcast is saying that a relatively newer Z06 Corvette can be a strong deal because it offers a lot of performance. It’s being mentioned as something you shouldn’t ignore when shopping.

Car

Ford Gtd Mustang

"And it's so stupid. Look at the GTD Mustang. Oh my God."

The Ford Mustang GTD is a very high-performance version of the Mustang. The podcast is reacting to how extreme it is compared with a regular Mustang. It’s mentioned because it’s meant to be a serious performance car.

Term

Nürburgring

"And of course, the whole Nürburgring thing is everybody beating everybody's record."

The Nürburgring is a legendary race track in Germany. When people talk about cars beating records there, they mean the car is setting very fast lap times on a track everyone recognizes.

Car

Volkswagen Bus

"I'm going to get out of my old VW bus and see what I could call. I'll never forget my, my dad's girlfriend's daughter. We had a Volkswagen bus and we drove from, from Salisbury, Maryland to Ocean City, Maryland..."

A Volkswagen bus is a classic van that many people use for road trips. In this story, the host is talking about driving one across the country and camping in it.

Company

Barrett-Jackson Auctions

"So, you know, some of the moments that we've seen from Barrett Jackson over the years have been incredible moments. [1345.8s] I mean, you know, you could just say the Ferrari hat guy..."

Barrett-Jackson Auctions is a major collector-car auction company known for high-profile vehicles and dramatic bidding. The hosts describe how it can feel like “reality TV,” but with real cars and real money changing hands.

Car

Shelby Cobra

"...about or the Bert Reynolds Trans Am or a Shelby's Cobra, the number one Batmobile or all the 0000001 Corv..."

The Shelby Cobra is a famous sports car known for being fast and exciting. People talk about it because it’s a well-known performance car with a strong reputation. In the podcast, it’s mentioned alongside other iconic cars that collectors want.

Concept

auction bidding escalation

"You know, they have an idea as to what cars might sell for. [1384.2s] Sure. [1384.4s] At the end, you know, if you get two bidders going at each other, [1387.1s] next thing you know, it's off the charts."

Sometimes in auctions, two people get really competitive and the price can shoot up fast. It’s not just the car’s value—it’s also the excitement of winning.

Car

1979 Trans Am

"Because we've all made, I mean, I've bought the wrong 79 Trans Am, [1483.9s] they're both black, the one that I bought, [1486.0s] that I thought I was buying at 500 original miles on,"

The Pontiac Trans Am is a famous muscle car. This story is about how, at an auction, you can accidentally end up with a different (and worse) car than you thought you were bidding on.

Term

bad car fax

"the one I bought had a caved in passenger side and a bad car fax. [1493.3s] And it happens. [1494.7s] You've got to be really careful."

Carfax is a history report for a car. If it’s “bad,” it usually means there are warning signs like accidents or title problems that can make the car riskier to buy.

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car card

"Because there's what we call a car card, a description of the car. [1517.9s] And their job is to make sure that, you know, [1515.1s] because there's what we call a car card, a description of the car."

A car card is the auction’s information sheet for a specific car. It’s supposed to list the car’s details, and the experts check that those claims are accurate.

Term

matching numbers

"If it says it's matching numbers, can you prove it? [1525.9s] You know, Jerry McNish will run his finger over this one location"

“Matching numbers” means key parts on the car have the same serial/ID numbers as the car’s records. It matters to collectors because it helps prove the car is original, not a mix-and-match build.

Car

Chevrolet Chevelle LS6 convertible

"I watched Jerry McNish one time talk to me about a Chevelle LS6 convertible and running his fingers underneath the trim piece under the door. And if there was holes in there, that means it could have never been an LS6 because it had a trim piece down there."

The Chevrolet Chevelle LS6 is a special, high-performance version of the Chevelle. Here, the speaker is describing a way to spot whether a car really matches the LS6 details by looking closely under the door trim.

Car

Chevrolet Camaro Z28

"I can talk to you about about 69, you know, Camaro Z28. And I can talk about 64 amphicars and, you know, 1929 Chevy straight six engines, you know, to a degree."

The Chevrolet Camaro Z28 is a performance version of the Camaro. The point here is that some experts know the exact details that make a car truly match that specific Z28 model.

Car

Chevrolet Caprice

"...ck and somebody says, hey, open that hood on that caprice and you go there and you're a car guy and you hav..."

The Chevrolet Caprice is a large, older-style car made by Chevrolet. The podcast is talking about checking the engine bay, which is something car enthusiasts like to do. It’s mentioned because it’s a recognizable classic.

Concept

auction block inspection timing

"And you remember a car at Bear Jackson will sell every two minutes. Right. So we have two minutes to talk about the car and we got two minutes to get that hood open and inspect the engine."

At auctions, each car gets only a short amount of time. If you can’t open the hood quickly, you don’t have much time to check the engine before the next car comes up.

Car

Toyota Highlander

"I have an El Camino. I've got a Toyota Highlander. But but having said that, my my last three daily..."

The Toyota Highlander is a family SUV that’s built for everyday driving. It’s the kind of vehicle people choose when they want room and practicality. The podcast mentions it as part of someone’s recent daily car lineup.

Car

Ford Mustang convertible

"But but having said that, my my last three daily drivers have been [2074.6s] Mustang convertible. Wow, that's that's interesting."

The Ford Mustang is a famous American car, and the convertible version lets you drive with the top down. The speaker is saying it’s a fun car you can still use every day.

Term

EcoBoost

"you know, an inexpensive entry level Mustang, EcoBoost basic level,"

EcoBoost is Ford’s name for a turbocharged engine. The idea is to get better gas mileage while still having decent power.

Car

Golf Gtd

"... Mustang, EcoBoost basic level, or you can have a GTD that does 810 and 15 horsepower. And we all seem ..."

“Golf” here refers to a car model people talk about when comparing different versions. The podcast is comparing different performance levels and trims. It’s mentioned as one of the options in that shopping conversation.

Car

Ferrari 288 GTO

"And some people might not know that it's like a 308 Ferrari and a 288 GTO, right?"

The Ferrari 288 GTO is a legendary older Ferrari that collectors really value. It’s known for being a serious, turbocharged supercar from the 1980s.

Car

Ferrari A308 Ferrari

"And some people might not know that it's like a 308 Ferrari and a 288 GTO, right?"

Ferrari 308 refers to a famous older Ferrari sports car. People mention it because it’s a well-known classic that collectors recognize.

Car

BMW Isetta

"Who knows, right? But more importantly, that's an Isetta right there. I see the Isetta."

The BMW Isetta is a very small car with a unique look. The podcast is calling attention to it because it’s easy to recognize and not something you see every day. It’s a classic microcar that stands out at events.

Concept

microcar

"But more importantly, that's an Isetta right there. I see the Isetta. You know, nothing cooler than real quick story."

A microcar is a very small car meant for getting around simply. It’s usually not built to be fast or powerful—more like practical, compact transportation.

Car

Isetta

"Bought an Isetta because bought it from the high school principal. Oh, how cool are that?"

The Isetta is a very small, quirky classic car. It’s famous for its unusual shape and the way you get in through a door that opens from the front.

Car

1982 Mercury Grand Marquis

"How about one that everybody's dying to get into is the 1982 Mercury, Grand Marquis, GS Eagle Coach, Hearst. ... It's a ghoulishly cool cruiser, a five liter EFI V8."

The 1982 Mercury Grand Marquis is a classic American “cruiser” car known for its big V8 engine and comfortable ride. Here they’re pointing out that this one has a five-liter fuel-injected V8, which is part of what makes it interesting to collectors.

Term

five liter

"It's a ghoulishly cool cruiser, a five liter EFI V8. That five liter was in everything."

“Five liter” is the engine’s size, based on how much space the pistons move inside the engine. Bigger displacement usually means the engine can make strong torque, which is why these big V8 cruisers feel effortless.

Term

EFI V8

"It's a ghoulishly cool cruiser, a five liter EFI V8. That five liter was in everything."

EFI means the engine uses electronics to deliver fuel more accurately than older carburetors. An “EFI V8” just means it’s a big V8 engine that’s fuel-injected.

Car

1999 Mercedes-Benz SLK 230 compressor convertible

"Another new arrivals in 1999 Mercedes Benz SLK 230 compressor convertible. Bahama blue metallic over gray and black. That's a nice color on the little car. ...And it's got a supercharged 2.3 liter double ever overhead cam four cylinder..."

This is a 1999 Mercedes-Benz roadster (a convertible) called the SLK 230. The “compressor” means it has a factory supercharger, which helps the engine make more power, and it’s paired with a manual transmission.

Term

double ever overhead cam

"And it's got a supercharged 2.3 liter double ever overhead cam four cylinder, which is not a slouch."

This describes how the engine controls its valves. “Double overhead cam” means there are two camshafts up top—one for intake valves and one for exhaust valves—which helps the engine manage airflow more precisely.

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supercharged

"And it's got a supercharged 2.3 liter double ever overhead cam four cylinder, which is not a slouch."

A supercharger is a device that forces extra air into the engine. That extra air helps the engine burn more fuel and make more power.

Term

five speed manual

"And it's a get rag five speed manual. That's for you. Get rag."

A five-speed manual transmission requires the driver to select gears using a clutch and gear lever. Compared with automatics, manuals typically offer more direct driver control and can be more engaging in spirited driving.

Car

2003 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Coupe

"The new arrival is the 2003 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Coupe, black over black and red, 525 horsepower. That's a lot of horsepower. It's got a LS V8, the Western sleeved LSA block."

This is a high-performance version of the Chevrolet Corvette from 2003. It uses a powerful V8 and is set up for speed, and the hosts are basically saying it’s a great deal compared to what you’d get elsewhere.

Term

LS V8

"It's got a LS V8, the Western sleeved LSA block. It's got every kind of speed part you can get on it."

“LS V8” is a type of Chevy V8 engine family. It’s known for being a solid, modern engine design that lots of performance parts can be built around.

Term

Western sleeved LSA block

"It's got a LS V8, the Western sleeved LSA block. It's got every kind of speed part you can get on it."

This is about the engine’s internal structure. “Sleeved” means the cylinder area is reinforced, usually to help the engine survive higher power.

Term

Tremac T 56 manual

"It's got every kind of speed part you can get on it. It's a little bit with a Tremac T 56 manual and a racy interior."

The Tremec T56 is a performance manual gearbox. It’s the kind of transmission enthusiasts like because it can handle hard driving and power.

Car

1931 Ford Model A sedan

"Other new arrivals, the 1931 Ford Model A sedan, Ford Maroon and black over black, just a solid model A here, 201 cubic inch four cylinder, three speed manual."

This is a classic Ford from 1931. It’s the kind of simple, old-school car enthusiasts like because it uses a small four-cylinder engine and a basic three-speed manual.

Term

201 cubic inch four cylinder

"Other new arrivals, the 1931 Ford Model A sedan, Ford Maroon and black over black, just a solid model A here, 201 cubic inch four cylinder, three speed manual."

That “201 cubic inch” number is the engine’s size. It also tells you it’s a four-cylinder engine, which is a simple layout compared with bigger multi-cylinder designs.

Concept

entry level

"And it's and it's a great entry level. [2740.1s] Get into the hobby. [2741.3s] Understand if you need to work on it, it's not complicated."

They mean a classic car that’s a good starting point. It’s the kind of car where you can learn the hobby and still find parts and help without it being overwhelming.

Term

390

"Got all the restoration receipts, 390. [2763.3s] This bad boy, cruzomatic automatic. [2765.2s] This is solid cruiser."

“390” here is referring to the engine size—about 390 cubic inches. Bigger engines like this usually feel stronger and more “classic V8” than smaller ones.

Term

cruzomatic automatic

"Got all the restoration receipts, 390. [2763.3s] This bad boy, cruzomatic automatic. [2765.2s] This is solid cruiser."

“Cruzomatic automatic” means the car has an automatic transmission. That makes it simpler to drive because you don’t have to shift gears yourself.

Car

Cadillac Cts V

"..., the last on the list, but not least is the 2009 Cadillac CTS V sedan, black raven over black, 556 horsepower on ..."

The Cadillac CTS-V is a high-performance version of a Cadillac sedan. The podcast mentions the 2009 model and its very high horsepower number. It’s brought up because it’s meant to be fast and exciting, not just comfortable.

Term

6.2 liter LS

"556 horsepower on this 6.2 liter LS AV."

“LS” is GM’s V8 engine family. Saying “6.2 liter LS” means it’s a big 8-cylinder engine from that GM lineup, built for power.

Term

triple disc clutch kit

"And it's a Tremac six speed and it's a got a monster triple disc clutch kit. [2800.1s] I don't even know it sounds good."

A clutch connects the engine to the transmission. A “triple disc” clutch uses more friction surfaces, so it can handle more power and harder driving without slipping as easily.

Term

Tremac six speed

"And it's a Tremac six speed and it's a got a monster triple disc clutch kit."

A “six-speed” is the car’s manual transmission with six gear ratios. The host is also pointing out the specific transmission used, because that can change how the car drives and how well it handles spirited use.

Term

3.73 limited slip axle

"Yep. [2801.7s] 3.73 limited slip axle and 101,000 actual miles. [2806.6s] Now you say, oh my God, you know what?"

The “3.73” part is a gearing setting that makes the car feel punchier when you accelerate. A “limited-slip” axle helps the car put power down more evenly when traction is uneven, like on wet roads or during hard cornering.

Term

limited slip differential

"Yep. [2801.7s] 3.73 limited slip axle and 101,000 actual miles. [2806.6s] Now you say, oh my God, you know what?"

This is a differential that helps prevent one wheel from spinning uselessly. It sends more power to the wheel that has better grip, which helps the car accelerate more confidently.

Car

Alfa Romeo Spider

"...rs old, his exact age, I had a very similar alpha spider that I was going on tours on. Oh, full circle."

The Alfa Romeo Spider is a classic open-top sports car. The podcast mentions it because someone had one and used it for trips and tours. That’s the kind of car people choose when they want an enjoyable drive.

Term

double clutching

"And then he said along the way, will you teach me how to double clutch? ... So for the layman, explain to him what double clutching is. But it's a way to match the engine speed to your gearbox speed when you're downshifting."

Double clutching is a way to downshift smoothly in a manual car. You do it by briefly going to neutral, revving a bit to “line up” the speeds, and then putting it into the lower gear so it doesn’t jerk or grind.

Term

downshifting

"But it's a way to match the engine speed to your gearbox speed when you're downshifting. So because when you downshift from fourth to third, your gearbox, all the internals of that will spin up..."

Downshifting means switching to a lower gear. It makes the engine spin faster, and in a manual car you have to do it smoothly so the gears don’t clash or grind.

Term

PDKs

"It's just, it's an art form that really has become unnecessary with PDKs and things like, you know, it's so it's really, to me, it's like developing a taste in wines or something else"

PDK is Porsche’s type of automatic/manual hybrid gearbox with two clutches. It helps the car shift smoothly on its own, so you don’t have to double-clutch like you would in many older manual cars.

Term

heel towing

"So there's also heel towing as well, too. That's another little. We didn't get into that. I have never been much of a heel and toe person."

Heel-toe (heel towing) is a way of braking and blipping the gas at the same time when you downshift. It helps the engine speed match the lower gear so the car feels smoother.

Term

double clutch blip

"So because it's just kind of your twist in your ankle and. Yeah, it's. So I'm to a fast double clutch blip. Yeah. So, you know, the heel towing is, you know, people say,"

When downshifting, a double-clutch blip means you use the clutch twice and quickly add a little gas to get the engine RPM closer to what the next gear needs. That makes the shift smoother.

Term

left foot break

"I say BS because I'll tell you another thing that I do that everybody gets onto me about is I left foot break. And the reason I left foot break is because a lot of the cars I drive don't stay running very well."

Left-foot braking means using your left foot on the brake pedal instead of the right foot. Enthusiasts often pair it with heel-toe downshifts because it frees the right foot to manage throttle blips for smoother downshifts.

Term

Formula One

"And that's where you watch that in Formula One. That's where a lot of the passing happens, not on the acceleration, but on the braking, the guy who can break the latest and still maintain control"

Formula One is a high-level racing series. The speaker is saying that in F1, drivers often try to pass by braking late into a corner and staying in control.

Term

flat spot his tire

"and still maintain control and not flat spot his tire, which when that happens, then it just it's like"

A “flat spot” means the tire gets a worn/uneven patch from skidding or locking up. It reduces traction and can make the car harder to control.

Term

fettled

"do you think a scruffy BJ7 or BJ8 exists out there where it's already been fettled? I don't want to spend six months fixing little shit."

“Fettled” means the car has already been cleaned up and fixed so it’s ready to drive. The speaker wants one that doesn’t require lots of small repairs first.

Concept

mechanicals

"I think you just worry about the mechanicals. And if you can get something that runs good and stops good and starts every time you get in it, then I think that's your goal."

They mean the important working parts of the car. The goal is a car that runs and brakes well, even if it’s not the prettiest.

Car

Alpine A106

"And don't worry about how pretty it looks. No, and I also think it doesn't really matter whether it's a 106 or a BJ7 or BJ, for, for our purposes, we don't have to have the best performing big heelie."

The Alpine A106 is a small sports car. The podcast is saying you don’t have to worry too much about how pretty it looks or about having the absolute best performance. It’s being mentioned as a classic you can appreciate for what it is.

Concept

convertible roof stowage (top disappears vs sits up behind you)

"And what's nice about those cars is the top disappeared completely into the car. With the BJ8, you've got that big thing that sits up behind you."

When a convertible top folds down, it can either hide away inside the car or leave something visible behind you. That changes how you see out the back and how the car looks.

Car

Rolls-Royce Corniche

"It's kind of like those goofy Rolls Royce Cornishes with the thing that stands, you can barely even see out the back."

They’re comparing the Jaguar’s convertible roof to a Rolls-Royce Corniche. The point is that some convertible roof designs leave a big structure behind you that makes it harder to see out the back.

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