The discussion revolves around the quest for the 'coolest car of all time,' with hosts and guests sharing their personal favorites and debating the criteria for coolness. Notable mentions include the Porsche 911, E-type Jaguar, and various rally experiences. The episode features anecdotes from rally events in Africa, highlighting the camaraderie and challenges faced by participants. The conversation also touches on the impact of famous personalities on car perception and the significance of driving experiences, making it a rich exploration of automotive passion.
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(00:00) Intro
(00:06) Things we have done in cars this week
(36:20) What is the coolest car ever made?
(49:26) Choose one car mag subscription for Xmas present to yourself
(1:06:57) Quick Xmas supercars from Neil
(1:10:15) 2CG
(1:18:07) Music
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"[432.7s] es que el Porsche 911
[437.4s] no es el mejor que el sporto que puede ser el mejor caro,"
The Porsche 911 is a famous German sports car that has been made for many years. It’s known for being fast, handling well, and having a unique shape with the engine at the back.
The Porsche 911 is a legendary German sports car known for its rear-engine layout, distinctive silhouette, and long history of performance and engineering excellence.
"[548.4s] Y lo voy a hacer, que me ha hecho, no me he hecho, pero es muy claro.
[552.9s] Él fue Look gets 996 GT2.
[555.6s] En Mobile.de, de un nudo."
The Porsche 996 GT2 is a special, powerful version of the classic 911 sports car. It has extra turbochargers that give it a lot more speed and is very popular among racing fans.
The Porsche 996 GT2 is a high‑performance variant of the 1990s 911 model, featuring a twin‑turbocharged flat‑six engine that produces over 500 horsepower. It is prized for its track‑ready handling and limited production numbers.
"When you see Mark II Escorts and two forties Ed Datsons and they had two of those Mercedes SLCs that ran back in the day..."
The Mark II Escort is a small car from the 1970s that people liked to race because it was light and easy to work on. It’s a classic example of an affordable, dependable car.
The Ford Escort Mark II was a compact family car produced from 1974 to 1980, known for its reliability and simple engineering. It was popular in rallying due to its lightweight chassis and tunable suspension.
"I don't want to give way too much of the film, but the rally briefing itself, I mean, all these briefings tend to go on too long at race meetings..."
Before a rally race starts, the drivers gather to hear important details about the track and any special rules. This helps them stay safe and perform well.
A rally briefing is a pre-race meeting where drivers receive critical information about the course, hazards, and strategy.
"I didn't realize the safety car came out from the start line, not the finish line, and that there's, yeah, you always should have listened."
In racing, a special car called the safety car pulls in front of all competitors when something dangerous happens on the track. It keeps everyone moving slowly and safely until the problem is fixed.
A safety car is a vehicle that leads the field during caution periods in motorsport, slowing traffic and ensuring safety while incidents are cleared.
"…spending £475,000 on a boxer, and he's on that…"
A boxer engine is a type of car engine where two cylinders sit opposite each other and move in opposite directions, making the engine flat and low. It helps cars stay balanced and run smoothly.
A boxer engine is a horizontally opposed twin‑cylinder configuration where the pistons move in opposite directions. It’s known for its low center of gravity and smooth operation, famously used by Subaru in many of their models.
"[1576.5s] to be driving V8s again in five years' time, maybe that wind is changing"
A V8 is a car engine with eight cylinders that makes a lot of power. It’s often used in fast or big cars.
A V8 engine is a type of internal combustion engine with eight cylinders arranged in two banks of four, forming a 'V' shape. V8s are known for their power and smooth delivery, commonly found in performance cars.
"[1581.9s] he's bought his forever car and it's lovely, we celebrated him"
A forever car is a car you love so much that you want to keep it for a long time, like your favorite toy.
A 'forever car' refers to a vehicle that owners consider irreplaceable and plan to keep for many years, often due to sentimental value or exceptional performance.
"[1586.4s] I went to Joe McCarrie's party, which I know managed it and also Mr Cooper, which was lovely in one's worth, on Saturday night and celebrated Joe and Franco and all the gang there"
The BMW i3 is a small electric car made by BMW. It runs on batteries instead of gasoline and is designed for city driving.
The BMW i3 is a compact electric vehicle produced by German automaker BMW. It features an all-electric powertrain, lightweight construction, and a distinctive design aimed at urban mobility.
Car
Volkswagen I3
"[1618.5s] ...about in your I3, you're doing car things and you're seeing car people..."
The I3 is a small electric car made by Volkswagen. It runs on batteries instead of gasoline, making it good for city driving.
The Volkswagen I3 is a compact electric hatchback introduced in 2014, known for its lightweight design and efficient battery use.
"I think for me it's either 300 SL-goal wing or E-type Jaguar, and I know maybe I'm saying what is the most beautiful car in the world"
The Mercedes 300 SL is a very old but beautiful car from the 1950s. It has special doors that open up like a gull’s wings, which is why it’s called the Gullwing.
The Mercedes-Benz 300 SL, nicknamed the "Gullwing" for its upward-opening doors, is a classic 1950s sports car celebrated for its sleek design and advanced engineering.
"and that's the, you know Steve McQueen drives 300 SEL Mercedes, suddenly what is effectively"
The 300SEL is a big, fancy car from the 1970s that had a strong engine and lots of room inside. It was famous because stars like Steve McQueen drove it.
The Mercedes-Benz 300SEL is a large, luxury sedan produced in the early 1970s. It was known for its spacious interior and powerful inline‑six engine, making it a popular choice among celebrities like Steve McQueen.
"I totally get your very beautiful e-type jaguar, of course, Neil, it's just a stunning kind."
The Jaguar E-Type is a famous old sports car from Britain that looks very beautiful and was very fast for its time. It’s a collector’s favorite today.
The Jaguar E-Type, produced from 1961 to 1975, is a classic British sports car known for its sleek design and powerful performance. It became an icon of automotive styling and engineering during the 1960s.
"you could turn up, you could turn up to the Pagani, Coney, Xeg, Ferrari"
Pagani makes very expensive, super‑fast cars that are built by hand in Italy. They’re famous for their beautiful design and extreme speed.
Pagani is an Italian luxury hypercar manufacturer founded by Horacio Pagani. The company is known for producing extremely high‑performance, hand‑built cars such as the Pagani Zonda and Huayra.
"[4166.3s] BMW CSL Batmobile.
[4169.7s] Oh, no es supercar."
It’s a special edition of the BMW M3 that was made lighter and faster for racing. It looks sporty and is very quick on the track.
The BMW M3 CSL ("Coupé Sport Leicht") is a lightweight, high‑performance version of the E46 M3, known for its aggressive styling and track‑ready dynamics.
"[4656.9s] A W12 engine, Continental speed.
[4660.9s] That starts on Monday, so just after it goes out."
Continental is a German company that makes tires and parts for cars. They are famous for making good tires that help cars handle well, especially in racing and on fancy cars.
Continental AG is a German company that manufactures high-performance tires and automotive components, known for their quality in racing and luxury vehicles.
"He's also got some smoke chrome stuff done, which he did. Smoke chrome was the wheels on his Continental"
Smoke chrome is a special paint job for wheels that makes them look dark and shiny at the same time. It’s popular on cars to give a sleek, modern look.
Smoke chrome is a finishing technique where chrome plating is applied with a controlled amount of oxidation, giving the wheels a dark, almost black look while still showing some chrome highlights.
"I like the idea of this manual gearbox, the single mass flywheel, all the lightweight stuff..."
A single mass flywheel is a part that helps the engine turn into the transmission. It’s simpler and lighter, but can feel a bit more vibration.
A single mass flywheel is a standard, non‑dual‑mass component that connects the engine to the transmission. It provides smooth power delivery but can transmit vibration more directly than a dual‑mass flywheel.
"I like the idea of this manual gearbox, the single mass flywheel, all the lightweight stuff..."
A manual gearbox is a type of transmission where you shift gears yourself with a stick and clutch, instead of the car doing it automatically.
A manual gearbox, also known as a stick shift, requires the driver to manually select gears using a clutch pedal and gear lever. It offers direct engagement and can be preferred for performance driving.
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así que es la más grande que lo que he hecho.
Es la más importante que lo que he hecho en mi car.
Y no me han hecho la granja de creativa de creativa de mono-hydre.
Eso es algo de algo de la más grande, ¿no?
Que no necesariamente hay que ser controlada.
Por lo tanto, los enviores de los enviores
están en la granja de creativa.
Hay muchos que serán en la granja de creativa de creativa de creativa
que, en la granja de creativa de creativa de creativa,
lo nämará en una manera que no han hecho apreciado.
Que como moi, lo he hecho la granja de creativa de creativa de longitud.
Y luego a través de manos dominated lived ko ration teenagers
son los kilotras ayudковos de la salida,
el momento de unde에요 perfecto.
Rey, liani extraño de la Mendida del счernal.
Llamé en тепrona rescatida.
ay kestrú.
He visto paralyzed.
Ayer se sólo túvaria las árcas del car.
Ayer se los
oncéó a mi cabra.
Nosotros, sigamos 것도 smiling,
Mobolfomensupcion o litter.
I think it's a good way to judge
how proud a country is of itself.
And in many ways, can you beast the UK and both.
So I want to thank the East African-Tafari Rally organizers
for putting on an event that I didn't think existed
anymore, the type of event where on the last day,
the leader has such a big crash.
He's blessed in Balder, but I think he's still in hospital.
Shit.
Because it's so tough.
Yo siempre He hecho el safari,
que pensaba que era el uno del mundo de la dominante de la Rio de Janeiro
en los 70s y 60s, no.
Es el avión de todo lo que es eso.
Eso es para cuando llegue a los museums.
Que se ve, de verdad,
These are all the rally cars
y el safari car es todo.
Porque es una gran parte de la expensive car,
para el evento.
Wow,
no, mi final.
Porque vamos a hacer un film en el vean.
es que el Porsche 911
no es el mejor que el sporto que puede ser el mejor caro,
porque se operaba tan rápido hacia la intensidad de la perspectiva,
porque se fue construyendo en una forma que
tan rápido se accedía a su requirements,
que es, oh, porque se levo este
como el criticismo de las fortas,
la idea de que
las personas no utilizan la similidad de la similidad de un SUV o 4x4
que me descomandas en la carrera.
Me lo contándose.
Pero yo con la 9-11 en la cifra de una hija.
Con los siete quajos firmados,
la agregation acabó.
La juz, que nos se le casaron,
ponemos un escarbo de computador,
con unos 40 kilómetros.
Tiene 70 kilómetros en una hija.
Nosotros no usamos a esa creación
que fue dentro de la cadencia que estaba,
podíamos balarules y que venía con los 4 horas
de la graja a partir del día.
Es solo un jugador de otra tensión
con una comunidad en la cifra de la�ora.
que no tienen las complicaciones de todo el colegio.
Ya tienen todo el beneficio de tracción.
Así que puedes matarte cosas.
Tú puedes, en una nota técnico,
un 9-11 puede enfiarse a lo menos rots.
Es mejor, porque es, efectivamente, es un esquí a la frente.
No tiene un sumo o un ingenio.
Así que cuando te saca el color,
y te relegó el brazo,
los ojos se rompieron rápido,
así que no tendré un colegio que es difícil.
Es un fresco 9-11.
Es un poco más.
Es un poco más.
Es un poco más.
Es un poco más.
Así que, gracias por letting me hablar sobre el Chris.
Yo he visto un poco de nox.
El segundo uno era el más grande que me ha hecho en el car.
Es una de las cosas que se han hecho en el caro.
Pero es una aventura.
Y es un poco de memoria.
Si te ha hecho el caro,
y es muy grande.
Y se se ha hecho una de las cosas que se han hecho.
Y se ha hecho una de las cosas que se han hecho en el caro.
No, no, no, no, no.
Pero me fue jugando por los pagos.
Y, eh, ¿qué ves?
Y lo voy a hacer, que me ha hecho, no me he hecho, pero es muy claro.
Él fue Look gets 996 GT2.
En Mobile.de, de un nudo.
Y lo voy a hacer, que no era uno de ellos, ¿no?
Así que él es el que me ha hecho, pero él se lo hace.
Es exactamente lo mismo que es eso.
Y es muy cool rase en el car, rase en la Porsche.
Que le había una Porsche en la parte de la torcilla.
y pues...
¡No es muy bien!
Imagina, Ivina, me voy a dar un caro.
Sí, sí, sí.
Me voy a clicar.
A clicar.
Él es el estado de Legends de Legends,
y me hablo mucho.
Y una cosa sobre la gente en el rally,
es que crea un bondo con tu mano y tu mano.
En el caro, y tienes un rutino.
Y te puse tus canzas y te puse un rojo de 3 h.
Y tienes que decidir si vas a la persona o no.
pero lo que se llama el co-driving es que son otros partidos,
los sentidos y lo que hizo el rato,
entonces con el rato, con un estilo de moda,
lo que puedes ver con el rato,
bueno, puedes jugar música y les voy al canto,
pero puedes usar eso como al fone,
entonces lo que ha habido fue que no usan por 2 horas.
Lo que creo es muy bien,
porque es para la gente, no me ha ido a un estésre,
So I am in love with Kenya now I really am. I just think it's a beautiful country
for the beautiful people. So I urge anyone that wants to go on holiday.
You know go down to the coast, go to Kenya, go and do a bit safari, go see some animals,
go and then go and sit by the Indian Ocean and dip your toes in that bath water.
It's an happiness country.
Yeah just to have a toast.
The coolest, I think the coolest car event at all.
When you see Mark II Escorts and two forties Ed Datsons and they had two of those Mercedes
SLCs that ran back in the day, there was cadets, there was a bloke turned up in a Citroen
Visa and finished the event.
So that.
It was just like magical.
Do you think it's the hardest thing you've ever done in a car?
By miles, when I was when I was trying to corral a load of villages that were caught
on mile up the road to come down and help me push my car back onto its wheels.
I just thought, I, yeah, really this is quite tough.
I've got the t-shirt here, this is one, this is one, this is a day of rallying in a white
t-shirt there.
So you can see where the, that's what you look like and you see where the Simpson's device
is, is welded onto you from the belt.
You should frame that.
I'll show you the, I'll show you some of the, I would show you some of the bruises, but
I'd rather not.
Thank you, thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
D, I think it is grueling rallying and when you read, you go back and think about how
the sport was sold to the world, you'd buy the auto sports or motorsport and you'd read
the report wouldn't you which would run to ten pages and then it would have a massive
status and finishes list.
I've been looking at some old race to race and rally reports.
We should discuss this.
I'll put it on the phone.
How people used to absorb media before this, before there was television links everywhere.
It made, I think it made your investment in investment more real in some respects, but you committed
to this chunk of words that talked about much more than just the first three as well.
It really comes across is that everyone gets to mention it's not just about the first three.
So yeah, quite humbling, I'm very glad I got to do it.
Did you, this is the, you know, I get really car sick in cars.
Do you get ever get car sick or feel, do you know what, could be stopped for a minute?
The only thing that people that code drive that I've got in common is they have to have
absolute, there can't be any case of you ever getting car sick because this will find
me.
You know, if you're doing 140 kilometer stages and Aaron 15 minutes, look it up and down
at nights and you're being fired into ruts and sideways and jumping, then I didn't.
I think I'll remember reading the right stuff and they would describe the sort of medical
and physical requirements for an astronaut, they had to make sure they were doubly unlikely
to do anything.
Code driving is the tummy one.
If you have the tummy, you're done, yes, it happens on the first day.
Of course, compounded by the fact that you're eating African food to everyone gets the
trots.
And the wall of shame or the waddle of shame before stages when people, quite well-known
people or wealthy people would waddle off with their wet wipes into a bush, or even better,
there would be no bush.
People tried to hide behind a very skinny tree truck, you know, give it up, just get out
in the open and get it done because that tree is hiding nothing.
You know, when Clive James used to do a show, he did one in Africa, and it was Clive James
on Safari, I mean, you can watch it on YouTube, but there's an incredible story about it.
He was an Italian who went out on that Safari with the Safari guide that Clive had, an
Englishman who'd been in Africa for 30 years, and this guy had exactly that, he had terrible
diarrhea, this Italian man, and they were in a Land Rover, and the guy said, just do your
diarrhea in the Land Rover, he's like, no, I can't, I can't, he said, we're in the bush,
do your diarrhea in the Land Rover, and he refused, he went behind a bush, he got eaten
by a lion.
Boom.
I still think, if that was the choice, it's the lion.
We are real.
I don't want to give way too much of the film, but the rally briefing itself, I mean, all
these briefings tend to go on too long at race meetings, you know, we're normally hopping
about one foot, the other on the other, after three minutes, I know where the finish line
is, actually, rule number one is always listening to the briefing, because there's always
something in there you thought you knew, but you didn't.
And if you're honest with yourself, you're a bit embarrassed, because you think, do you
know what?
I didn't realize the safety car came out from the start line, not the finish line, and
that there's, yeah, you always should have listened.
I never been to a briefing before, where a man stood up and said, right, this is the wildlife
briefing.
You're the big green, you said, because you're in Africa, you're probably going to come
across the wildlife.
And we're like, yeah, great, you get to see a lion and a giraffe, and he said, just remember
a couple of things.
First of all, when you start a stage, sometimes you'll get there a bit early, and you'll want
to probably find some shade, when you point your car up, you just sit there and cook.
So everyone goes for the shade, you behave like animals, so you'll try and all go for
a shade.
Now, if you can't get any shade for the car and you see a tree, just remember that you're
probably sharing it with many other things that are looking for shade two, and there
are things that could probably hurt you, so just be mindful of that.
So we're all sitting there thinking, well, this is new.
And then we had a long list of what to do if you came across certain things, most
of which was stay in the car and fucking pray.
Yeah, we stayed in, I mean, PG Anderson, you might remember PG Codro for me in the rally
with no name or couple of these.
He's the wonderful Swedish man, PG we love you, who just shouted, you're too slow
I can see England from here, we used to throw the book out the back, like the gaffer
with a parking ticket and just say, get out the, you know, just get going.
He, we were, we were at a game lodge at the end of one day's racing, and we were, the
guy collecting us to take us to go for dinner was late, and he arrived, and everyone was
a bit kind of, we've got a rally tomorrow, we went into a dinner and he said, I'm sorry
I'm late.
There was a lion in the road that wouldn't get out of the way, which was great.
So we all said, well, can we go back and see him, we're going that way, yeah, we'll
go with him, we'll drive up, we're going to try and find the lion, and then we'll, we'll
get going.
So we're, we're looking for this lion with spotlights out the side, PG and his wonderful soft Swedish
tones goes, I went for a run here this morning, you mad, there's lions around here, PG,
I didn't really think about that, no, so yeah, there are things that will let you, what,
I mean, it's just, it just feels like a land of opportunity, friendliness.
There are some mad bits, don't get me wrong, and you have to cross the palms of the authorities
quite often to get where you want to go, but that always feels like you're in a film,
doesn't it?
It always feels like you're sort of, you know, in die hard, you just pull out some dollars
and give it to the place when he lets you go through, it's real, you do it over there.
So God, what, yeah, I'll, I'll think about it a bit more, I'd rather not have the crashes,
I'm sorry to 30, that definitely I caused one of them, but he drove beautifully, and
I'm going back next time and I'm driving.
I think that might be the beginning and the end of my Amazon co-driving career.
Well, you say that, some of the greatest people and figures and characters in the sport
have been co-drivers, Jean-Tot, David Richards, Robert Reed.
Well, there's a, I put a heartfelt note up on Instagram, and several co-drivers
replied to me saying, thank you for saying that, I just said, I think my words were,
I never knew, I never understood how great you were and how much you, basically how much
you contribute to the success and excellence of the drivers that take the fame.
It's a very strange relationship, it's a fucked up marriage really, and there's massive
pressure, because the moment that I, I like them, the co-driver to Pirelli and Formula
One, I don't understand it, there's nothing to be gained in having to be lost.
When things go well, the co-driver takes no chords whatsoever, when they go badly there
to play, they are Pirelli and Formula One co-drivers.
So, I wrote this, and then I realized that I just, I had no idea, I've had a large response
from people saying, this is what it's like, it's a remarkable thing to do, and I, you have
a great responsibility, these weren't my notes, I was using third party notes, which makes
it very difficult, because if anyone that knows Rowling, this is effectively a tulip
note that's augmented with quite a bit of written information, but in Africa that can
change day to day, because it reigns so severely, you can have washaways and holes that
appear.
That's the danger, the big danger is holes that aren't marked.
I'm still going 17 minutes in, so I think I'll stop there, but it was a fabulous event,
and I'm so glad I got to do it.
The reason I did it was I was pissed in a pub of 30 in March, and I said I'd do it, man
in my word.
I was regretting it, I tried to wriggle out of it three months ago.
I phoned Tuttle and Rich's operation, that's another conversation, how he runs that
event, I don't know.
He should be running the UN to control 22 people that do that Rowling.
But I said to 30, I'd do it, and I would, man in my word, and I wouldn't be able to
do it otherwise.
I have a long run at this thing two years time, maybe I can get sponsors together, but
it's a lot of money, and I couldn't afford it, and I wanted to experience it, so I thought
it's probably a pride sitting in the passenger seat, and it is fabulous, and the driving,
it's another subject, driving in Kenya is a joy, they just say get on with it, just
get on with it, you know, you don't really, don't be rude, don't deliberately piss
everyone else off, but if someone's overtaking someone, you need to go on the grass, just
get on with it, and the policeman sees you, they might have a little word, but that's
it, just get on with it.
Can you do it driving slow?
Yeah, you can, it's just a good question, Neil, there are some guys at the back, guys
and girls at the back that probably just take the view of, that's finished, they don't
just drive, they don't drive like it's London to Brighton, but they do, they can still
pull a wheel off now and again, but their aim is to finish the event, and I think, that's
what makes endurance rallying so interesting, because there's lots of races within races,
and the largest one is the tortoises versus the hairs, sorry, that way around, so you've
got the ones, the aim is that the tortoises will just wobble along, and the hairs will
probably have multiple incidents that means they climb and fall, and climb and snakes
and that as well, and quite often, the tortoises do have really remarkable results, three
of the top ten will be cars that started 50th, so there's, it's a new ones to them.
It's calling you, Neil.
I know, but I would, I love everything about it, apart from the driving fast bit, so if
you could drive slow, I'd be up for that, and just see, did you probably have a few
of you in scenery and the animals, giraffes, all of that, I've loved it.
Yeah, the only thing you've got going wrong, if you drive slowly, is you start last and
you finish last, and you're pushed, you push your finish times too late, too late back
for nice food and stuff, and you can be stuck out there in the dark, I would not want
to be finishing a stage in the dark, and I mean right now, because when you do, when
you get out of your car on the RAC, you don't think, well there's stuff here that could
eat me, it sort of adds, it adds to the jeopardy in ways that are unnecessary.
So if you're last, you have to start last every day, you can't start first, even though
you're really slow.
No, they don't do it that way, because you catch, because the stages are so long, you catch
people on the stages, the two curiosities are you can ask for extra minutes at the start,
but it's quite great.
So normally you start time as two minutes split, and a European rally, this, you start
a three minutes already, but because of the dust, you can ask for four and five minutes
gaps.
Well, if every, in the top 40 competitors request five minutes, it means the last 10 are
already two hours later than they should be, so it's very antisocial.
And the other, the other curiosity is that normally you're checking time for the next
stage, just based on your start time, plus time allowed for road transit, so you have
a cup, I've got a book here, I'll show you on them.
I knew this was a good idea.
So you get issued, so here's what you get given, and I've talked you through, but you
get issued a card, kind of shit, and I'll use the spare one, isn't it, it's not here.
So the time card, in normal rallying, is start time plus allowance for road transit, and
then that's when you start the next rally, so you normally have one hour in a box, so
you take start time plus one hour when you get there, in safari, it's your finished time.
So if you get lost or fuck up the stage, you can create a 20 minute gap to the car in
the front, but everyone else has to suffer the knock-on behind you, so if you're that
clutz that gets lost, everyone behind you is going, wish that tool from the television
hadn't chosen to do this event, because we're now all going to be 20 minutes later for
our beer.
Sense of camaraderie, drivers help each other, co-drivers, I had lent on so many people
to Alan, to Ryan, to God the countless people that helped me out, thank you, just the
best event.
I thought it was fabulous, but I have got a stinging headache, and my body aches, but worth
it.
What have you done in cars just 3.0?
I'll shut up now.
No, we wanted to hear about that, really.
It's my shitty time of year, works busy, I haven't done much, that's exciting, a couple
of little things, a mate of mine called Zade, Zade Chronicles on Instagram, picked up a
new car, at Porsche High Wickham, which actually I didn't even know Porsche High Wickham existed.
Quite new.
Quite new, and my local Porsche garage, but no one's told me about it, but it's very
posh and lovely, and he ordered a GT4, what they call GT4 RS Spider thing, in Sample
PTS Chestnut Brown Metallic, look at that, with blue leather, it's his forever car, he's
just on 100,000 miles in a 997 GT3, and he's now going to keep this forever, and do 100,000
miles in this in the next 5 years, and loads and loads of special little bits on it,
which I won't bore you with, you can have a look at his Instagram, but very sunderwitch
or whatever it's called, the special factory thing, a gorgeous car, we did that, had a lovely
coffee with him, and celebrated his madness of spending £475,000 on a boxer, and he's
on that, it's a joke, obviously, but quite a lot of money, over-list, but he's going
to keep it forever.
It's 50, what do we reckon?
It's sort of similar to that, I would say, yes, yes, yes, it is.
He sent them a picture of a conqueror with a blueberry on top, and saying, that's what
I've got in mind.
Yeah, well it's, in the flesh, it's very, very special, I'm not big for ceases, I think
it's extraordinary ambition and wonderfulness.
Instead of being sensible and buying a house and getting a mortgage and buying a flat,
he's like, fuck it, I love cars more than anything else, I want to buy them, I'm going to
do, these cool cars are not being made anymore, but maybe they are, maybe we're all going
to be driving V8s again in five years' time, maybe that wind is changing, but anyway,
he's bought his forever car and it's lovely, we celebrated him, I've been bombing around
in an I3, I went to Joe McCarrie's party, which I know managed it and also Mr Cooper, which
was lovely in one's worth, on Saturday night and celebrated Joe and Franco and all the
gang there, that was all very nice, and frankly, I'm in the run up to Christmas now and
I'll be looking forward to Christmas Eve where I can go, okay, chill out for a couple
of days.
I saw you last night, Neil, we had a curry with a couple of other people and you seemed
like me to not be disliking the Christmas period as much as normal, because you're chipping
about in your I3, you're doing car things and you're seeing car people, so you're using
your time well, I feel more chipper than usual, I hate this time of year, but I certainly
feel, I'm rather than bar humbugging, I'm seeing car people and doing car things.
I think as long as you surround yourself with good people, I think life's okay, last
night was lovely, we had a lovely little curry in Beckenfield with some great people
and chat, and I think people cheer you up then, as long as you surround yourself with the
right ones.
I stand top as Steve Soeper, who is someone that was probably a hero status for me when
I hear you.
Yeah.
Well, I think when you're young and you watch Grandstand, first of all, if you love cars
just so great, but it's not football or fucking horse racing, when the car bit comes
and you're like, yes, I do exist, it's something for me, then it would always be rally cross
or Murray doing some touring cars.
And if there's an obviously attractive, a literative name, and they happen to be one
of the quickest in a car that you like, you just draw into them, Steve Soeper is one
of the great touring car names, it just rolls off Murray's tongue, Steve Soeper.
And if you have some lovely stories from him last night, it's just got the most brilliant,
I asked him some stuff and I maybe we can come out with them on the, but we ought to
get him on the pod actually, because he's got good god, he's got some stories, he's
got that impish look in his eye and he's so competitive, he had 12 years off from racing
and then he was persuaded back to his own historics and he said he got the speed back straight
away, but the race car took a while, but the way he talked about preparation, he applied
being a touring car driver in the 80s and 90s and just how devious and clever he needed
to be to historic racing, so whoever he's racing with, they immediately had an advantage
because he just knew the way to go racing to win, that's not the discussion, knowing
how to win is much more than just driving fast, isn't it?
Does that great film that the Han brothers made about BMW and touring cars, it's somewhere
on YouTube or Vimea or the Han brothers, who made that lovely film Chris when we were
at the ring a few years ago and there's a note, one of the opening scenes in that or
the trailer of it and Steve says, if you're a Formula 1 driver, you want to drive for Ferrari,
if you're a touring car driver, you want to drive to BMW and he was in that era, he was
a rock star, he was the rock star of touring car racing, he made touring car racing sexy
and rock star, he also, he was our greatest export from that, he went to an international
race, if you went to Le Mans, if you went to Macau or whatever they were doing, it wasn't
you didn't see Hoi and all the other names, you saw Soapa on the side of a works car,
of a factory car, he was our greatest export in that sport, so no, he was so Christmas
so that was nice, but yeah, no, apart from that, you know, watching you on Instagram
have fun in Africa with giraffes, I want to go there, I want to see giraffes, they're
the greatest animals, they're the ones, they're graceful, manage whatever you've done.
Well, I was at Joe Macau and there were no medical incidents this year, so I actually got
to enjoy it from beginning to end, I did do my slightly leery, a couple of drinks and
had to go on the simulator, I am so brave and so shit, at the same time on a simulator
and I just literally could not learn the circuit, last two coordinates, breaking all wrong,
going into the moron, but it's always such a great, it's always such a great party because
I think Joe combines, you know, the art of the sale, the art of presentation, but you
know, it's family friendly, there are Winnie the Poohs everywhere, there's always great
food and just, you chat to people that, you know, that you come across so sort of randomly,
we talk, a dozen people must have talked to me about the pod and there was something slightly
different this year, rather than just going, oh, you know, I listened to the pod and, you know,
been a great kind of pod, a couple of men sort of of a rage came up and said, can I just
thank all of you for the pod and gave me a hug and just said it's just, you know, it's
just, you can't, you know, it's hard to explain what we get out of that hour, hour and a half,
though we get, it was, it was very humbling as they say and the other thing I'd like to mention,
although I can't mention his, I don't want to mention his name, but somebody that Neil knows,
when I was at the concourse with Lola in the summer, I made eye contact, that's very,
very nice man in his fifties and we got chatting and actually he owned the Issa Grifo
that won the concourse, you know, in its class. This thing was just stunning, absolutely stunning.
We've been planning to have lunch, planning to have lunch and it got delayed and delayed and delayed,
but this, this Monday, we had lunch at Vera Swamy, which is absolutely my favourite Indian restaurant.
Sorry, can I interrupt? Can we go there together? I've not been in the years, I'd love our,
well no, we're going for our Christmas meal this week, but next time can we go there please?
100%, don't look at the menu, I'll take us out to lunch, just do not look at the menu, I will order,
I mean, it's the best North Indian food, so the chap and I went to lunch and it's fact,
there is a connection that we do have in this particular connection, his, his love of cars
is like a hundred percent intersection with mine, the difference being with me, it's all theoretical,
it's Googled, I read about them, I've rarely seen them, sometimes I've been lucky enough to have
been driven in them, he owns them all, Merax, Camsins, he just got the borer, he won the borer at
the bonham sale, he completely restores them, he has an espada that he's putting together,
that's really rather beautiful, two gibblies, these are just all my favourite cars, we were talking
about the period that he loves, he loves that mid 60s period, to the kind of late 70s period,
and that's it, to complete his collection he's looking, he's going to find the right
quintage, it has to be a little P400, he thinks at the moment they're all going to the prices
all over the place, but listening to this man, listening to how he created this collection,
how he curated these cars, how he restored these cars, and with the boring, the nicest thing
he actually took out three swatches of leather at lunch, I mean we are mad, so in the middle of
in the middle of lunch, he's like, here you go, I've got to think about what, what do you think,
and we looked at this, I didn't know Connelly now make a range of leather called Maserati,
so it's kind of the Maserati Quillo, I don't know if it's a Vomal, but it was just on my stunning
kind of chocolatey red brown leather, and this in a midnight blue borer, can you just
imagine what that car's going to look like, so we've hit it off, he's very happy for me to come
and visit whenever, he's building a rather beautiful barn in which to house all of the wedges,
and I think I just might move in, I'll just go in with loads of soup and I can't open it, I'll
eat them gold, I just think looking at those, I'd be very happy, frankly for the rest of my life,
sitting on that many people that own three gents and interceptors,
those three, it's got the FF, I mean, just go wrong, every car he has just makes me gasp,
there's a, I'm sure there's a family in the Pickwick papers that's brilliantly described,
they have a house guest that comes to stay, and 34 years later is still there, I think that's
in the Pickwick papers, yeah, so you're one of those, I can't have to remember his name,
right, Chris Cooper, what have you done in cars? Well,
I also went to the car and Chris, because I'm not cool, in fact, we're talking about
cool things, and I've actually put on my little title that you can't see, I'm confused by
cool, I'm genuinely confused by cool, and management, no, I'm under that, managed very kindly
invited me to come as his plus one or plus whatever it was, so it was organised, we didn't
actually get to see each other managed, because I arrived early and left early, but it was very
nice, Joe, Joe via managed, thank you to you and Franco for inviting, it's a very, very amazing
bet, I've never actually been there before, it was great, and on the Sunday, I went to the
Wilton Christmas wake-up, Wilton Hall down near Salisbury, Wilpenbrook, and the Rafa Club of
Wilton organised this extraordinarily, do it once a month in the summer, I don't think I'd
done a Christmas one for a while, it's sort of slightly more risky with the weather, but it's
sort of early afternoon, the busiest one they ever had, it was really lovely, there was, and I think
you've all kind of touched on this, and I thought about it quite a lot, just Christmas period,
this year has felt really, really busy, for lots of reasons, quite challenging for lots of
reasons, maybe I'm trying to do too much, and my diary hasn't felt sort of as packed and busy and
full of difficult stuff as it has this year, and it was really nice on Saturday evening,
spent a few minutes at the lovely party, talking to people, meeting people in the car world, and
just talking nonsense about cars, importing stuff from blah, blah, blah, and on Sunday,
it's a real cross-section, I mean, there was a lovely Renault 5 GT Turbo in the outer car park,
not in the grounds of the castle, which I think everyone all called that, it was just,
it was an F registration, I had an E registration, black one, E126CH,
the interior just looked exactly how I remembered it, with that lovely steering wheel,
with the dished spokes, you could put this sort of thumbs in, so, but the manual choke, manual choke,
manual choke, what's the choke, what's the choke, what's the choke granddad, the kid said,
and tell us about the war while you're at it, so yeah, it's lovely, but the main thing I wanted to
get out this morning was to hear the extraordinary talk, when's the film coming out Mr. Harris,
just so we can all know we've got to get the edit together and stuff, I think, and of course it's,
everyone comes back and it's Christmas and they go quiet and they've got other projects either,
end of I suppose, end of New Year, I hope so, so it's the very talented George from petroleum,
he's a George, some of you might have seen the film I did with Francis Bourgeois in the train,
chasing the train, George made that film, he's got little premier tomorrow night in London actually,
which he's very proud of, so yeah, okay, well that's great, everyone's had a good week of car
obsession, I like it, now, what, this is a terrible question, it's far too open-ended,
open to all sorts of strange answers and I've got a feeling the Clifford proposed it,
what is the coolest car ever made? I mean, Chris Cooper rightly is head-in-hands,
I'm not going to attempt to answer this, in fact I'm going to put it to Neil Clifford,
he's calling himself Fuck Christmas Neil, which is very interesting.
So what has came from your mouth actually, because when we were chatting on the little
whatsapp when you were doing your rally, you did say, it came from you this.
Okay, right, so I have to accept the fact that I've used this as a description.
I'll keep my brief because it can go on forever and it's kind of, and it's really hard,
and I haven't even decided now what it is because it could be so many things,
cool is such a tricky word isn't it, but I suppose it's got to be something beautiful,
it's got to be something that everyone recognizes as just an amazing visual thing in my view,
the 911 is obviously probably the right answer, which Mr Harris will talk about,
I think for me it's either 300 SL-goal wing or E-type Jaguar, and I know maybe I'm saying
what is the most beautiful car in the world, not the coolest car in the world, I'll go E-type Jaguar,
it's a bit obvious, but you know what, they made a hundred thousand of them, it's British,
it's gorgeous, quite a lot of ability to access buying one because you can get one from 40
grand up to you know a million pounds, I think I'd go, I think we love Jaguar, I'd go E-type Jaguar.
Okay, one thing, one observation about this podcast, if someone starts with a very long
monologue at the beginning, like I just did, everyone then tries to make their answers shorter
because they think someone's spoken for too long, and Neil Clippers just done that,
you're going to give us a long answer next time because people are like hearing from you,
manage off you go.
I think a very open question, and I wondered whether you can answer a question where
that is the car in itself the cool thing, or is it cool by association,
and that's the, you know Steve McQueen drives 300 SEL Mercedes, suddenly what is effectively
a shoebox becomes a coolest thing you could possibly own, Mr Clipper, especially with that leather.
Exactly, or would the NSX really be a cool car of Senna had driven and tested it, it's better
than according to Luke anyway, it's better than a 348, does that mean it's good?
Exactly, exactly, very low bar, the other two 75GTB, the one that you dare call cross-eyed,
but without Peter Sellers, without being in...
Oh, Stegas.
But, Marstay, so you do wonder, and just to flip it around, I thought you know, very modern
for eyes, nicely modern for eyes, something maybe from the kind of mid-90s, late-90s onwards.
They get spoiled, don't they, by uncool people who drive them.
You know, this thing might be the most beautiful thing you've ever seen in your life, but
you've got some sort of bald football agent with a big cigar in his mouth and a velvet suit
getting out of that.
I think, oh, you know what I mean, I'm not talking about really about it, so I wondered whether
there were cars that were truly independent of their drivers.
So, anyone in that car, when they get out, people just go, that's cool, I don't care what you
look like, how you dress, what you eat, where you're from, and it's a hard, this one's hard,
and actually, I think that there are two cars for me, I totally get your very beautiful
e-type jaguar, of course, Neil, it's just a stunning kind.
Of course, Chris, you've phrased it as, I'm right out here in the middle of, you know,
the wild, effectively driving a Porsche that's been modified, water car, that must be cool,
but I actually think that the smaller classless cars, for me, there are two that I just
call it, it was the Volkswagen Golf GTI, but you know, maybe in the market too, you know,
the kind of thing where a prince could drive at, or a GP, you know, that's like, and maybe for
me also, the original Mini, and maybe even the modern Mini, because they are just, you see them
everywhere, and they're really almost driver proof in how cool they can be, so those would be the
two I think I would go for, just cool cars. I like the way that you've acknowledged the
association between a person, and then trying to separate that, that's the way I went with this,
Chris Cooper. Well, you know, I find this question really, really difficult, because I don't really
know what cool is, and I'm the, and the, and bless you, Neil, I know you try and drag me into this
group, but I am the antithesis of the corner, I don't, I don't really, close to the things which
cover my body, and I have a blusa, and therefore my wardrobe is complete, that's how I come to this
question, but I think it's the greatest question, and the hardest question about our passion and our
love, but I did find it quite hard to sort of know which, know which of the angles I had started,
so last night, I asked a young person, I asked Cameron, what's the coolest car ever,
because young people are supposed to have lost interest in cars, and not understand them, and just
be attracted by whatever's on YouTube, or whatever it is, and he gave me, and really interesting,
a really interesting little list, he said, possibly the coolest car ever is original after 33
Stadali, 2 litre V8, rest of 8000 something RPM, 967, 20 of them made whatever it was,
250 short wheelbase is cooler than the 250 GTO, that was Cameron, age 23, I thought this is,
we are in safe hands with the young, 1990 Vantage X pack, F40, if anyone knew on his somebody who
had one, Miura, the original Pagani's Honda, not the recent stuff, I said, why is that, it said,
they're trying too hard, and I think there is something about trying too hard, and I wonder whether
there are still cool cars emerging now, I think they probably are, Salva C11 is probably his favorite,
the 1990 sort of list everything, Google, go onto YouTube and look at Salva C11, this is amazing,
and Golf 9117, Golf 9117 is amazing, because it's possibly the greatest
several racing car, the greatest sponsor, and it's Steve McQueen, it's just the Holy Trinity, but,
yeah, because I think it was always great, if you ask me what the coolest car in the world is,
there's only one, there you go, the Cupcar that we used to race, so for those who are
missing a black and white, I have a very small little mini-champus model here of a 997GM1 Cupcar
man-tied that Kristen Geysper and I used to race at the VLN and the 24R racing in the Nerva Green,
sort of from about 2007, from about eight, nine years, whatever it is, it's the coolest thing ever,
I mean, in particular, you've got, there it is, I actually opened this, I don't know how many of
these they made, I suspect it wasn't very many, and I bought most of them, so I think in the
vernacular, I'm long on 143 scale 997s, it's quite, it is very cool because it's actually got,
Mr Harris, it's actually got the scoop up, it has got the scoop up, and my name's not on it,
they made it based on the one race I didn't do in the car, you did, so I'm gonna, I've got one,
I'm gonna give it to the guy that's a rich art, it makes my helmets and get my name painted on it,
so you had a better offer that year with, with somebody who had the words,
role and valta in his name, so you were, you were very much forgiven, but I had about stack of
these in the, in my cupboard, and I was doing a bit of tidy up on my office and I thought, I'm
gonna take one out of the box, and I've got a little wooden model of the Glenale ferry,
which I bought from their website in the summer, so on my little sideboard over here,
I've got the wooden Glenale ferry, which is the coolest ferry in the world, and I've just put
this in it, and that's cool because of all the memories, happiest memories of dicking your
arm with my mates, Chris and Geese Burr, and that racing car, it's a 9-11, it starts from a high
level anyway, the nerve-wrong, so yeah, to me that's the coolest car in the world, I think I
struggle not to not agree with that, but it's big, but, how do I define, I can't define cool,
but cool, and what we're trying to express here, I view as a, first of all, it's still image,
not a video image, so I take a snapshot of something, and that's how I start to deconstruct this,
so I'm more in the managed camp, I've got loads of snapshots in my head of things I've seen,
cars in situations, cars in locations, cars being driven a certain way, and they've sort of
frozen like polaroids in my head, and I can sort of call them, and normally,
cool comes from an unexpected amalgam of car and person, which I love, so I love it when you see
people that are very rich, getting out of very ordinary cars, I think that's the epitome of cool,
so we're all, I'm automatically siding with a slightly inverse snobbery here, I don't,
I think cars that are very expensive and very exuberant are almost instinctively not cool,
I just think that, so I tend to be managed, you're turning towards the ordinary,
I can't define what it is, but I can tell you the coolest single snapshots I've seen
of a human being with a car is easily when we were outside a restaurant in Bologna,
and Luca had just driven me and managed that in a Renault 4, and I captured him,
turning around to look at his own Renault 4, and just admire it, and I can't think of a cooler
car at the moment than Luca Montezemelo's Renault 4, you could turn up, you could turn up to the
Pagani, Coney, Xeg, Ferrari, whatever meeting, the biggest one in the world, if Luca drove
in a Renault 4, it's the ultimate mic drop, so it's true, I think also to support that, I often,
it's not that happened as often now, London used to be a great city for just seeing
random people driving random cars, there was always that person, I think it was a woman that used
to get into that 456, that was always parked around Harrods, and there's always, I think my mother
would have been one of these, or my late mother was, I think people would have gone, what, do you
remember to see that woman who sort of hobble up to an Audi RS4 and get in it and drive off, and
she was 82, and she'd be terrorising the roads, I think that's cool as well, all that stuff, so
but I don't think, I don't think there's a cool supercar or hypercar, I don't think,
don't think they are cool, I think they're great when they're driving them, but I'm not sure they're
cool, they're not cool in a way that a 911 that's been rolled end over end, and it's continuing to
rally the safari, these are having a safari, that's cool, but I'm not sure, I'm not sure
if I've gone a year's cool, doesn't mean they're not great, I'm not sure they're cool,
let's move on. What was your choice? The Renault 4, I think, I like ordinary cars, and I like
seeing, and for me there's an association with people, you're quite right that Steve McQueen,
probably the lustre of Steve McQueen does make anything cool, but is he too obvious, is he too
cool to be cool? There's so many nuances here, you could argue that maybe the ultimate barrier
of coolness is trying, the moment anyone or anything is trying to be cool, it is instinctively not
cool. If you wake up and think I'm going to be cool today, you're not, you're just not.
I'm never burdened with that consideration in the morning. No, no, you're cool.
And that's why we love you Mr. C, and that's why sometimes we love to give you the right.
He is blushing, he's blushing, he's blushing, he's blushing, it's 8.
So choose one car magazine subscription as a Christmas present to yourself, now this is my
kind of Christmas. Let's start with Manish. I would actually have to reinvent one, I'm afraid,
so it doesn't exist anymore. But back in the day, when there was sort of really, in my opinion,
proper formula one journalism, for a period in the kind of late 70s to mid 80s, there was a monthly
magazine called Grand Prix International. Yes. And Gerald Dutson used to, I think he was on the
editorial board, I think it was actually quite friends. You mean Gerald Dunston? Dutson.
My Dutson, sorry, my Dutson, not Gerald Dunston, you're right, I combined two journalists,
I made a fictitious journalist, but only this was my kind of anticipated monthly. And especially,
there were occasions when you'd have two Grand Prix that happened, but sometimes three, because of
the way that the calendar worked. And I just loved reading about a Grand Prix. It was just the great
art of writing, and they would start with a description of what many cool was like that morning,
or the temperature in Jakarta Pagua, as PK suddenly rolled into the stadium, minis, whatever, and
the crowd, and they were hosing down the crowds. And the writing was always amazing, but also,
I just loved a layout. What they would do is for qualifying, you'd have all the drivers,
little tiny black and white images of the drivers faces at the top. And what they would do is just
have a yellow hand-drawn kind of circle around the top six and explain what happened in qualifying.
The race always had that fantastic chart that just showed people's positions, you know, on the
bar. And then when when pit stops came in, when the refueling stops came in, in 1983, 82, suddenly,
those graphs, instead of sort of doing this and showing you Alain Cross winning from kind of the
middle of it, suddenly they'd drop down, and then you'd see them come back up, and then you know,
the next couple of years, the patterns moved like that. They would have classified in the back,
and sometimes a little in-depth features on a particular driver. And at that time,
the relationship, I think, between the drivers and the journalists was a lot better than it is
today. So today, you know, drivers have their own social media, you know, some get Lando, I think
he has seven people working for him, what Lewis does full-time, and they control their media in a
very, very different way. These extremely direct relationships between journalists and drivers,
but the articles about the drivers weren't puffed. They were really, really good pieces.
There were stories that told you how they got into Formula One, how they tackled a particular
year. I remember reading about Jacqueline Feet getting over his accident, you know, smashed legs
and talking about what it was to recover from hospital, get back into a racing car at some point.
So that, for me, is gone. There's no one place I can get that. There's no,
there's no completely satisfying read for me in Formula One. I mean, I, there are certain websites
that I go to, but if I could have a magazine, a monthly, it would be please somebody,
Reincarnate, Grand Prix, International. By the way, I managed to find them as PDFs on the internet.
Why would you have them all from 78 to 86? And I just do love, love, love dipping in because it's
so well written. You should start a Formula One magazine, Manish. I'd love to. I think you
have tried to do that in lots of ways. I've succeeded with that one. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
effort. I love car magazines and I've tried by as many as possible to just bloody support them.
Even, even though, for my superpowers that I've got, I look at the pictures and then skip
al final de la oscuridad para ver lo que realmente piensan en el Ripo a la otra.
Entonces, lo que es un par de algo diferente, pero…
Sí, sí, sí.
¿Que si lo hablan?
Creo que esa es la mejor thinge que lo ha pasado.
No lo he pasado.
No, pero como lo sé, no era más importante.
Sí, y así, en el juego, la vida es más difícil y el final de la oscuridad.
Pero es tan mucho de los lluvianos.
Si no, me gustó el rato.
Yo estaba juste jugando en la caja.
Pero ya va a ser muy bien.
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Yo tengo la magnifía glas,
así que aunque no me gustó,
yo no me gustó nada.
Fue fundamentalmente,
me gustó todos los lluvianos,
lo que me gustó los lluvianos,
los lluvianos y todo eso.
Si me voy a hacer una vida para mí,
el que me ha hecho para cada dos semanas
es auto car,
porque no son lodos de grandes historias
que no te paremos que lo están mucho.
Aquí hay unas unas unas snippas.
Hay cuatro o cinco historias en cada paga.
y eso es lo que me gusta,
plus, eso me informa,
especialmente por este podcast,
un poco de lo que está pasando en el motor de la vida.
Entonces, yo voy a comprar el caro.
Mi alma me gusta, me siempre me gusta
cualquier caro de la vida.
Sí, me gusta el caro.
El caro es muy bien, en efecto,
creo que es casi,
me puedo comprar un caro de la vida,
obviamente, pero me puedo comprar,
¿que sea? you know, promotional 3 months or 6 months or whatever.
I think it's almost the best present for a car person anybody's life.
Almost the best present to Christmas is a subscription.
In fact, I love magazines.
Boat magazine, Sadie magazine.
Current affair, stuff, history.
And if anybody ever is kind enough to say, I don't know what to get at Christmas and say,
well, lips you just buy me a magazine.
Just buy me one magazine.
en la descripción, por un maigaze.
Me voy a decir, cash.
Sí, me voy a intentar ser como un maigaze,
y me voy a decir, en el maigaze, y después, he read it.
El rode rap es muy interesante.
Yo creo que el rode rap es el epitome de lo que
Newly said early on.
Paso en el caso de la episodio 2,
en el caso de la edición 2,
y lo que había.
Me ha encontrado para eso,
y me sentí emails cuando se preparó,
y me han enseñado pictures de lo que se ha encontrado,
y lo que se ha encontrado, y es muy interesante,
y me ha encontrado.
Y luego me ha encontrado,
y es, es, es, es, es,
es una satisfiación que ha habido.
Es la verdad.
Es muy, es muy, muy bueno.
Y en el receptionario de nuestro office,
tenemos un top table en el receptionario,
y tenemos el economista,
el visión de la visión de la visión,
y el rode rap.
Y me ha encontrado una idea diferente,
porque el rode rap,
yo creo que el rode va a ser por el top.
Es muy interesante.
Yo creo que creo que el gilty no me ha encontrado.
¿Y tu pudiste que te ha hecho la última idea?
Porque estoy en el receptionario.
Sí, así que yo lo he hecho.
Sí, yo era que he hecho una plena plaga para el rode rap,
no sé si es buena,
Peter who's now editing it well we like the giving it
This are the people that is this rated by my three
We love it and Peter and his team who run it
We're in all of them. We really I
This is like us three coming on and saying that the Lucre film is shit
This is
Es una dificultad difícil de hablar, porque el fondo es muy simple,
algunos de los artistas son...
Yo he hablado de la dificultad de la primera rada sobre Lewis.
Y fue 4,300 odd words.
Es un problema.
Lewis Play Day.
Pero tengo que decir, eso fue muy difícil de hablar,
aunque aún no me he habido.
Es muy simple.
Es el segundo problema.
¿Y qué es el problema?
Es el problema que es el problema que es el problema que es el problema que es el problema que es el problema que es el problema que es el problema que es el problema.
No es supercar.
No es supercar.
Ah, ok.
Dodge Viper.
Supercar.
No es supercar.
Yo creo que es supercar.
Yo creo que es supercar.
Oh, ok.
BMW CSL Batmobile.
Oh, no es supercar.
Maserati Camzen.
No es supercar.
Oh, que es bueno.
Supercar.
Oh.
What's that?
It's not a supercar.
It's a very good one.
My instrumentation, I sort of almost regretted.
Because I was on the edge of Miraccan Bora,
which is basically the line goes through that.
It does.
So I went random, which I think sits on the line.
Yes.
Last one.
Aston Martin V600 Le Mans.
Oh.
Supercar.
Supercar.
Supercar.
Supercar.
I think it is a supercar.
Must be.
But it's a standard Aston Martin coup
of the same era, not a supercar.
No, it's not correct.
It's the V600 that takes it over the line.
I've worked on how you do this.
So we used to sit, we used to sit,
as I would, in the old car road test department,
which is a grand name for a corner
where there were just three children
that used to make silly jokes and were disorganized.
Sometimes the editor would say,
right, we're going to do a supercar test,
get them together.
That's when you had to decide,
you'd have these arguments.
Exactly.
Discussion.
You'd say, what's a supercar?
Aston was always afforded a little bit of sympathy
because it was British.
And we'd always be there going, yeah,
well look, he's got six hundred horsepower.
It's more powerful than all of them.
So it's got to be a supercar.
Yes.
And the Viper would be a supercar
because it was too shit to be a sports car.
Yeah.
So that's the last one.
Singer DLS.
The fact that it's a singer.
It's probably a supercar.
Yeah.
The fact that it's a singer.
It's probably a supercar.
Yeah.
The fact that it's a singer.
I don't know.
But can 911 be a supercar?
Yeah.
We go back.
We go back.
We go.
We can use a GT1.
I mean, Max Chilton did me.
I'm not a Max.
It's really well over to you.
Max, you tell us where the singer DLS
is a supercar and we'll respond next week
with your answer.
There we go.
The other one is come back to the cams in.
A car can't be a supercar if it has a model
that exists above it in a range of cars.
So a Gallardo cannot be a supercar
because they had immersed your logo above it.
So you can't have, if you've got a model
and it's one that sits above it,
the one that's subservient cannot be a supercar.
It's just a new rule.
It sounds like a new rule.
But I think it's probably a good rule.
I just want to challenge you.
Watch a 1973 commercial
for John Player's special cigarettes.
You can see it on YouTube.
And it features a cams in.
And it says, you know,
the greatest things in life are in it.
It starts listing them.
And it's a car by Maserati.
And they pick the cams in.
Like it.
I imagine that's the end of the supercar section.
I enjoyed it.
This is quite parental.
Neil's got to move on in 20 minutes.
Is it that we can string this out to 21 minutes?
So we're going to start with our,
I'm going to do our two car garage now.
Have you got it?
I have.
It's a bit controversial.
But actually, I love it because this person.
We repeatedly cite them.
Not because of their political views,
because as a car person, they're writing
and they're understanding of the motor vehicle
was supreme.
I have a two car garage that has left me
obsessing over it every waking moment.
I thought I read that right.
That was nearly a difficult one.
Here goes.
If, if Alan Clark was alive today,
what two cars will he have bought
that have been released since his death in September 1999?
Budget flexible.
But commencement with Adam's desire
for getting a good deal.
And enough facility from his bank as its CA hall.
Would love to know your thoughts.
That's from Alexander Hambley Burke.
If that's your real name, that's fantastic.
Yeah, we'll give you that one.
That's all I'm going to go straight to,
Manish, I think.
Oh.
Yes, controversial figure.
Sort with castle.
Definitely new about his cars.
I found out that actually he was under secretary
to Tom King when Tom King was
with Northern Ireland secretary
and then became defense secretary.
They were offices were next door
and can't found it very difficult working with Tom King
and we'd go round and round on his chairs
screaming at the walls, fuck her.
Fuck him.
Shit.
Like that.
And Tom King could hear all of this through the door
and described him as a non collegiate colleague
which I thought was rather genius
and wonderfully understated of a dime.
But he knew about cars.
I just listed four cars.
I thought were quite sort of axiomatic car cars.
So the 1937 Bentley 4 and a quarter,
an incredible car.
He had that.
Jaguar SS100, the 1960 Porsche 356 Cabrio.
And he also had a sit from two CVs.
I don't know what cars you had.
We got the book.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the point I'm trying to make now
is that this isn't a guy who just buys English things
from a certain era.
I think he really.
He feels cars and.
I.
The questions.
I think rather brilliant.
You know, what from basically the last millennial,
this millennium.
Would Alan Clark buy?
And I think he's open minded.
I think he's interested.
He can certainly drive.
And I went for a British car.
For my first one, I think he would probably have an F type.
But I think he'd have the pure real-wheel drive version of that.
And the version that's got the 575 horsepower.
The very, very fast F type.
I could see him in that.
I could really see him in that spec properly.
And the other one.
And I think it's quite topical car because I think he is open-minded.
And he'd be of a certain age now.
I think he'd have a BMW i3.
I think that's what he would do.
That's insightful.
I think having read his diaries too many times.
I can totally agree that he might do that.
Because he had a thing about small city cars.
Yeah, okay.
Neil Clifford.
Right.
He would have.
He has to have a Jaguar.
Yes.
70% of his car ownership was sort of around British,
around Jaguar, around Bentley.
What Jags are going to buy?
He was the man that really introduced me to Q car.
It was a Q car man.
So he'd have a project eight.
Yeah, he would.
And look, in the respect of cars,
I've endeavored to live my life as closely and in parallel
to Alan Clark as possible.
So I love his books.
And I have a project eight.
I don't know.
You'd have a touring model.
So most of them are low key British racing green.
Definitely have left hand drives so he could go pick up his wine
down in France.
Perfect car.
Should have been called the Jaguar and Clark, frankly.
And then what's he going to do?
Tricky this.
Is he going to.
I was going down the reinvention of that Bentley blower,
those 12 they made.
Is he really going to throw out 1.5 million quid when he's already got one?
He's not going to do that.
No, he's got the roof of the car for the sort out.
Yeah, I think I think a man is he's dead right about the small city car thing,
but I think he loved French cars.
Uh-huh.
I love quirkiness of French to CV the whole thing.
Alpine 110.
Yeah, good shout.
100% he's going to have those.
I think he liked a manual gearbox, but I think he might have got over it.
Yeah, I think screaming into the houses of commons at 6am up from Kent
and a little Alpine 110 is what he's going to be doing.
Good shout.
I think that's a very good shout actually, Chris Cooper.
So I found two cars in the options,
a car classic that I think he would have enjoyed.
A W12 engine, Continental speed.
That starts on Monday, so just after it goes out.
And then I think he'd have a 911.
I think he'd have a 911.
Yeah, and I think he'd have, I think the thinking man's 911
because he was very much thinking man would be a target.
So that 997 target.
I think he's quite like that.
No or 0.1.
That is a 997 Gen 2.
It's a late model 997 Gen 2 target PDK.
And that starts on the auction on Boxing Day.
I like it.
I think Mr Clark would have.
He wrote passionately about Land Rover's Range Rover.
Mostly Land Rover Discovery actually.
He came up in Las Vegas podcast.
He was the one that I thought best described the benefits
of sitting high in a spray.
So I think he would have.
I think he would have become a 322 Devity.
I think there was something about the 322 that he'd have loved.
He was launched two years after he passed away in 2001, wasn't it?
So I've just gone on to Conte Classic and found the most expensive
322 I can find, which is 35,000 miles.
That's 31, it's a TDVA.
Alan Clark liked diesel engine.
It's 35 fat.
It's special.
Nearly new 322.
He's also got some smoke chrome stuff done, which he did.
In fact, Alan Clark, would you believe it?
Smoke chrome was the wheels on his Continental,
because he didn't want too much silver finish on the wheels.
Which is odd, because I don't like dark wheels.
And I've always associated it with mild tastelessness, but he's not mad.
But he would have had that.
The other brand, I think he was very fond of,
as much airtime.
That's true.
But he had his 322 Carrera, the little silver,
which he used to drive far too fast, left-hand drive,
silver burgundy interior.
But he had a 550 spider as well.
He had a 550 that he used to drive around him,
which probably now worth 10 million pounds.
But he just used to beat around the lanes of Kent.
He did?
I think the Porsche thing does work.
I think he'd have had, from you, he'd have had a 911R.
Because he likes the lightweight thing.
I think he'd have had a moment of a slight fuck it moment,
later in his life, and gone, do you know what?
I'm going to have, I treat myself to one last new expensive car.
I like the idea of this manual gearbox, the single mass flywheel,
all the lightweight stuff, the carbon roof, all that stuff.
I like that.
I think he'd have bought a 911R.
So, let's move on to some music.
Here we go.
By the way, go and have a look at Carrera Classic.
It's heaving, heaving with night potential nightmare purchases.
For me, it's almost like I have to stay up for it at the moment.
The stuff has been surfaced.
It's so viable.
It's incredibly painful.
I'll start with the music and get out of the way, shall I?
When you spend a lot of time in a rally car with someone that's got a
facility to stream music into it, you listen to lots of different tunes,
and you have that lovely moment.
I've not heard that for ages.
And also with you with someone that's much younger,
you instantly try and come across as being a bit cool,
because you're worried they're going to judge you on what fairly
called your grandfather tasted music.
Anyhow, I don't know why, and I wasn't trying to be cool,
but I happened across Chacadema St. Pliers,
early 90s, fantastic reggae.
And I think Murdershoe wrote, if you listen to that,
with that such a simple tune, but it's a great song to just
pop along to in a motor car.
Chacadema St. Pliers Murdershoe wrote, let's go to Manish.
I have been mainly listening to Jean-Michel Ja,
over the last week.
I've been rediscovering my J.M.J.
and the track, it's probably the most famous track.
It's from the album Oxygen and Oxygen number four,
the one that you're all, what a car to listen to when you drive.
It's a music, you just don't do it.
Neil Cleverd.
Look, it's fucking Christmas.
Not yet.
I'm going to choose my favourite Christmas song,
because it is Christmas.
We shouldn't be, we shouldn't be miserable.
The accidental Christmas song, I think,
it's not really Christmas song.
It's 17.
Stay another day.
You know, it's really good.
I know it's a bit naft, but it's really good,
and a great video.
Yeah.
Yeah.
State or Bristol, is it?
No, it's Stainer.
Stainer other day.
It's the Stainer.
So, Christopher.
I'm also going to choose Stain another day,
and I had this conversation with some of my,
one of our clients last week,
and it was prompted by a group executive,
so a very, very senior grown-up person,
very, very impressive, capable person,
one of Britain's largest, most important businesses.
On his LinkedIn last week, he found himself on a train,
and on the seat numbers are above.
He was sitting in seat E-17.
Thank you very much.
He took a photograph of himself pointing at E-17
on his LinkedIn profile, which is sort of
very, very important business things.
He wrote out the lyrics to stay another day.
I thought that was fantastic, Sir James.
God help me if you listen to this.
That was amazing.
I think it is.
There were two versions of that video made on the song.
I think one, some little tell us this.
One with bells.
It's got bells in it.
It's a Christmas song.
It's brilliant.
He added the bells after.
They did.
They did.
There you go.
Look at that.
Oh, my days.
Yeah.
They're cool.
In an unusual upright start in that photograph.
Yes, I know.
Strangely upright.
So, that was episode 66.
Thank you for joining us.
Neil Clifford's got time.
He's got eight minutes to get to what he needs to get to.
So, we've fitted into the time window.
Thank you very much to Manage Poundly, to Chris Cooper,
to Neil Clifford for this episode.
And we will be with you for a work on a Christmas special.
It's just the Christmas podcast.
A Christmas edition of our podcast.
That's what it will be next week.
Love you all.
See you there.
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