Crew, RUF Rodeo, and Parker's HUGE Win

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non-wins in racing history. Let's talk about all that and more on the Smokentire Podcast. Is the sure you're wearing of a real business? No, I don't think so. It seems like the kind of thing I would make up if I wanted to make up a fake business.

Also, we need to have some discussions about what exactly the car is supposed to be on there. I think it's a doose, but it's, but where?

What is happening on what looks to be the rear bulkhead? Yeah, is that a windshield mounted on the. It looks like the windshield's on the back. The windshield's on the back of the car. It looks like a 32 Ford with no hood or fender. And then the windshield is mounted backwards on the back.

Almost like the person thought it was some kind of mid-engine auto union thing, or it was designed by AI, or you have a chat GPT shirt. This shirt is way older than chat GPC, but yeah, it does look like I never noticed.

That's like the state of what state it's Ohio. Is it Ohio? Yeah, it's Ohio. This is probably from that car that drove across the country backwards. So they had the windshield on the back.

What is this?

Speed sports shirt. Jerry Jay Jay's automotive speed sports. Oh, Jigs. Oh, Jigs. So it's a Jigs shirt. Oh, Jigs. You put the windshield in the wrong part.

What is the art department of Jigs has a real problem with that? Yeah, that's really, really strange looking. Unless like we're going to get some angry email, and that's actually like an obscure backwards mid-engine 32 Ford project that's actually a real thing.

They decided to put them a t-shirt, and they regret it now because everyone calls in and says it's fucked up, and they're like, no, no, they have to prove it's actually like a real car.

Maybe it's the roll bar, and this is like a link. I think the windshield is the wrong way, dude, because the thing that looks like it's where the windshield would be looks like it could be a top.

Yeah, it looks like a considerable top. Yeah. Unless, I mean, look, unless if chip foos who did not recognize me at Pebble Beach calls me and says, actually, I've done a backwards body to 32, then go okay.

You think he drew the shirt, or he built a car and they drew the shirt? I don't know. I don't know, but he gave me a real nice to see a body at Pebble Beach did not recognize me.

That's okay though. He had a lot happening. It does. It does. And I have a different facial hair, and I was wearing a big yellow hat. So it could be different. No context. We were in the studio. Maybe he'd recognize me.

I get it. It does sting a tiny bit. It happens. Burned. I was like, hey, Brockman, and he was like, huh?

Shit. Did I tell you about the most, dude? I felt really weird about this one. I go at the concourse. You know who I saw was Nick Shorsh from the all drain, right?

Who we love? Yeah. Boss of all bosses in Newport, Rhode Island. Yeah. And he had multiple Pebble Beach entries. And you probably saw that story about the guy who drove his Bugatti cross country.

Like he drove like a Bugatti Type 57 across country to the concourse. Like pretty fucking boss move. Like my rant on the last show, like that's the kind of shit I'm talking about. Like, you know, like that's good shit right there. So that was actually an all drain project as well.

Or at least the all drain, like media team ran chase and then made the video. Yeah, the car was awesome. I kind of wish they cleaned it for the concourse. And I know why, but I kind of wish they didn't. Yeah.

You know, if it was the quail, they would have left a dirty. Yeah. You know, I get it. Yeah. But the guy did drive across the country. It was pretty fucking sick. And it did work. But anyway, I saw Nick Shorsh and I he was talking to somebody.

Sort of I didn't like interrupt the conversation. But I sort of like was like, yeah. And he looked over and like finishes comes. I was like, I talked to you later, man. And then came talk to me. Who was he going to Zach Brown?

I was like, oh shit. Sorry, man. He's like, I'll see you later. I'm going to buy 10% of McLaren. They were both it. No, they were showing their formula. One car is right next to each other. It was the fucking.

That was the I guess actually some racing against vintage races. Yeah, he was like, he did that. Yeah, I didn't go to the track this year at all. No, then I also our tickets have been got expensive.

These to be super cheap. Yeah. For a long time.

Although one of my like shout out to shout out to Chris, my Sacramento friend, watch guy Chris, who his, he this year. I'm helping him blow up the spot and make it fucking triple the price for next year.

Somehow he and his buddies got multiple RVs and set up a big campsite at Laguna, Saka, sort of like full service. Sure.

Like had the RVs delivered there. He didn't even drive him there. Wow. Yeah. And he drove. Well, he drove him with his like cool car. Yeah.

Yeah, they delivered the RVs to the campsite hooked up the shore power and the shore water and whatever. And he was arriving arriving camp. And he said it was pretty sweet. He said it was cool.

Yeah, in the morning there, it's beautiful. Yeah, he's been wake up to the sounds of race cars. That's awesome. Yeah, I bet it's less than a hotel. I talked to Spinelli yesterday. I haven't talked to him.

Yeah, he's now looking for work. Unfortunately, somebody hire Spinelli. He might come visit in October. But he said he almost made a snap decision to go to Monterey car week, like two weeks beforehand.

And to try to find a job. Just to do it. He's like, well, I have nothing else to do. But the the cheap, the air quotes, the motel six and Salinas, which is 30 minutes away from Monterey is not a nice hotel. I have stayed there before. It was $900 a night.

Wow. So that's why you would get an RV because I bet it's less expensive. I, yeah. Yeah. I bet he probably would have got a better, I mean, sure he looked. He's a very smart guy.

But the last minute Airbnb Verbo deals seem to be better than the last minute hotel deals. Hotels are okay. You know, hotels got a hundred rooms. Right.

They're okay. If a couple aren't rented, you know, at 900 bucks a night or whatever. They're not like, let's discount the, you know, but if you've got one house and it's not rented for car week, you're, you know, let's get this thing moving.

Remember the house Ali got last year. Yes, which was a way to stay there insane. No offense to our Verbo host who was lovely and the house was lovely, but that house was fucking nuts.

The two houses were the same price. But Ali got it like four days before car week. I really thought he booked it like a year ahead. No, no, he got it. He got it way last minute. Okay. And I was like, I don't have the stones for that. I can't, I can't swing that.

I'm not, I'm not going to be five days before with no plan. Can't do. Wow. Yeah, kid to it. Wild pricing. Yeah. So it's the opposite of search pricing. It's discounted. Yeah, move this. That's, it's, it's, it's, it's kept. It's plural. Pure, pure cap.

I was watching American gangster last night. You know, there's always the scene in the coke movie where the chemist is like a maze. Of course. It's brutal. Normally it's 45%. This is brutal.

My favorite. And the mass to take the extra with it. Yeah, I don't. He's like watching a cook. He's like 80% in his bobcat just getting more and more forward.

And then he said he's like, I can't feel my face. I think I'm into the trailer. I think that's a good month. Yeah. Highlight of the 2000s for bobcat. Anyway, it's been a lovely morning around here. Some funny weather. I went motorcycling with my friend Mike, who's in town.

I'm really trying to show him some LA goodness and boys. He getting the tour. He came out with us yesterday to film the roof rodeo, which on the way home, he was like.

You know, because he was again in the car with me and we're doing the chase and stuff. And he was like, this is this is really something else, man.

This is and then, you know, this morning we go road road up to Newcombs on motorcycles. I was on a new really cool motorcycle, which I'll talk about in detail next week, the BMW stupid fucking name BMW R12.

The letter R, the number 12, the word nine and the letter T R. It's like to you, you can't help, but go back to Clarkson in 2010. It's named after a fax machine.

The R12, nine T, which is a beautiful motorcycle. I mean, a really gorgeous motorcycle. And there were a bunch of bikes out today, and a lot of people giving me compliments on it.

And while we review the bike, I don't have, I didn't take post pictures of it yet. So, but, but, but dude, we got to the top of Angela's crest.

And we're going up and I'm smelling something. I'm like, is that coolant? What am I something over heating? Like, what am I smelling? And then the road is wet. And I realized, I realized I had forgotten the smell of rain.

And the smell of water, the smell of water and rain. I was like, I literally had forgotten. And it took me about 20 seconds. I'm like, that's rain. And all of a sudden, I get to Newcombs and the grounds all wet.

I'm like, and there's a bunch of people up. There's a bunch of Porsche's. There's a Corvette club. I mean, it's a popular pop and Saturday up there. A bunch of bikes. There's apparently some kind of support van for some bikes. There's like, there must be some like local group of guys who like to go riding on Saturday. And one of them has a van. And they just like hire someone to do the support van. And they had like catering and shit in there. It's pretty slick. Wow. Yeah. I'm kind of into it. So they, wait, they rode to Newcombs with a van full of food. And then, yeah.

And then, yeah. And then hung out and like eight and chilled. Did they eat at Newcombs? Did they eat in their van? No, the van was like a sprinter van that they like took a bunch of like food out of and also had like, you know, a bunch of cold waters and like towels and stuff. Like it was guys in like full leather. Right. It's like bringing the thermal experience. Yeah, they brought like a staff. Wow. Dude, aren't fucking Sergio talked about doing that. Like two weeks ago. He invited us. Remember? Yeah.

But like, but, but it's all wet. And I was like, what's going on guys? And they're like, yo, it's straight up just reindeer for like for like 15 minutes. Wow.

And like guys, listening, it is, it is August is California. It was 90 degrees in the valley yesterday. Yeah, it doesn't bring here now. So like, that's interesting. So yeah, the very top was wet. So fun times.

But otherwise, what a spectacular day of motor. Where the 12 o'clock boys up at Newcombe. No, no, dude, seriously, today it felt like it was pretty much all class.

I have to say up there. It was all class. The bike, like the bikes were like high end bikes and, and like older riders, you know, like they're like fucking corporate guys on their day off kind of riders.

And then like, there was like an all came in GT4 club and like an all Corvette club and all the Corvettes were like stock. Oh, well, it was very interesting to clarify for people listening.

The 12 o'clock boys that I'm referring to at Newcombs. I was there once. And there was like guys on Harley sportsters doing the most impressive.

Yeah, yeah, burn out and stuff. Not the 12 o'clock boys from the documentary, which is 100% worth watching.

They're riding like, yeah, quads. Well, and dirt bikes. And dirt bikes. Yeah, yeah.

But different, same tricks, different, different, different riders.

Yeah, those guys with the Harleys, they got tied, they got bored of like the ninjas and then like, let's see if we can do this.

I'm like fucking baggers and shit. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's real dangerous looking.

There's a lot of mass coming at you on one of me. Yeah, it had to be more vertical because of like the center of gravity versus the dirt bike.

That sounds right. Yeah, it's really rare to watch. I'm a fan. Yeah, my boy Mike was like, it's from my island.

You know, he was like my friends at home, like will not believe that this is here. Like he's never been L.A.

I'm trying to show him a good time. You know, and it's just we took him to the mountain. You know, and he likes to ride motorcycles.

And like he's never really ridden a windy road that could go for that long without having to stop for something.

You know, without having like, you know, without there's a lot of little townships.

Yeah, New York, in New York, in Long Island, like the everyday roads are like windy and pretty and green more so than here, where it's just shitty grids.

But they don't have the big mountain that we have.

Yeah, yeah. So like it was kind of it was he was like real excited. He was very, very excited.

Is he ready to move? Is he shopping for real? Yeah, he was like, yeah, he was like, you're really selling this.

You know, I was like, look, this is why I came here. I've been inviting you for 16 years, Asshole.

It's not your fault. You didn't you could have come then. Yeah, you were you were there.

I got here and fucking day one. I was like, you got to see this shit. It's fucking pop it off.

Give him a blue hot. His head practically exploded. I love it. Yeah. It's real easy.

You show him the fucking Cali basics. People are like, wait, what? This is the thing. Yeah. Mountain and produce.

Mountain produce. He's like, wait, we can go to the farmer's market tomorrow. Yeah. Wait a day. What do you see this shit?

There's a farmer's market every day. Yeah. We're going to go to the Malibu one tomorrow if you would like to join us.

That's good. Yeah, Malibu farmers market. That's good. The fucking raw, the sprouted walnuts.

That shit is so next level. It is. I never see some shit like that before.

Anyway, cars. Should we talk about before even cars, the black pearl notice sold out in 45 minutes.

So super thank yous to everyone who bought one of those. They're only 50 and about 11 of them were pre sold to people that had bought all four.

Okay. So, you know, so we released like, you know, 38 or 39 to the public and they were gone or not to the public to the patrons.

Everyone who bought one is a patron. So different oyster bracelet looks a little different mine has the prototype bracelet.

They keep telling me they're going to get me an oyster bracelet eventually. But yeah, looks awesome.

Really cool. It looks really good. The dial dial. Yeah. Sector dial. Two pieces of of teesh and black pearl. Very nice.

And I'm going to keep wearing this one with with the Jubilee on it. But as soon as I see them boys because they they've been using my watches for trade shows.

Yes, because I have all the colors. They didn't like keep keep the display model. They're moving them. They're moving them.

Yeah. And so it's a funny problem. So they were like, yo, can we borrow yours? So I gave them all of them.

You know what? That's actually I think the same move that hyper car makers and all that, you know, roof and other companies do they like they bring a car to a show.

And then they go, well, this one actually sold and sold because we sold them before we built them. So you can't have this one.

But this is what it looks like. I demand the prototype is usually the one that I keep.

Like they're not making multiple prototypes. They're like they end up on one like factory, like whatever, you know, done level prototype.

And I've kept all those. So they haven't made extras for themselves. I'm sure they'd rather have the money. They probably have a lot of watches.

Yeah. So especially that's okay. You'll just loan them yours for a little while.

Especially if I'm willing to loan them mine for trade shows. But it was actually last night I went to we went to dinner. We went to parks.

And and I was like, I'd like to wear the fucking minty. And then I went looked in the case. And it's like, oh, damn, I could have loaned you mine.

Fuck at two points. Two points. Two points a day. It's a light. It's got to be a one day rental. I'm not doing hourly.

So it's going to be 24 hours. Full deposit. Like Sammy's camera. You're picking up on Friday. Bring it back Monday.

Yeah, we're not open on the weekend. We're closed for the Sabbath. Yeah.

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Our friend Parker Kligerman won his race at Daytona. Helm of the fucking yeah Parker Kligerman Parker because he's a very fast driver. He just hasn't had the right car until today kind of true. He's had a lot of a lot of headwind a lot of problems. The irony of this win is he was driving as I didn't know this existed. He was driving as a relief driver.

Okay, for a, I forget his name for a young driver Connor Zillich who had heard himself. Okay, I've heard of kind of so kind of like 19 years old. Uh-huh.

And at lap 13, he had to pull into the pit and they had to swap. I think he broke his collarbone or something. Wait, what?

You can change drivers mid fucking race. That was my question. I guess you can. What's the thing? And so Parker was the relief driver. Wait.

It's about to get strange. How often has that happened? I've never heard of that. I mean, I'm sure it happens a lot. I've just never actually heard of that happening. Um, I don't know how often. How often would it happen if in the middle of the race?

Like, it could certainly happen before the race. The guy's fucking guy can't make it for whatever reason. The guy gets sick, blah, blah. But like, usually if a driver can't finish the race, something terrible happened to the car. Right.

You know, like, um, okay, wait, you said it gets weirder. What happened? Weirder because we cut Parker one, but he was driving for Connor. So Connor gets the points. And therefore, like, Parker didn't win. Right.

So tech, so, oh my god, wait, that's so funny. It's really. Oh, we get so now we get to laugh at him that he wins and it doesn't count. Oh, that's so funny. It's, it's such a bummer.

So why don't, dude, he need, all right, Parker, if you're out there, I know you're fucking listening because you got free time. Make merch, capture this moment with merch, at least get paid.

If you could, if there's a fucking meme about this that you can capture into a slogan on t-shirt, I think you could do it.

Oh, wow. I didn't realize. So, Zillich broke his collarbone in victory lane two weeks ago. Like, I guess he won and then fell down there. That's funny.

I'm sorry to laugh at that, but like, yeah, that's soccer. Parker hopped in, but that shit's on video too. And then now it like I think this is sort of hilarious. And I'm in a tech group with, you know, Parker and the guys we worked with on proving

rounds and we're like, the world seems to be that no matter how Parker wins, he cannot win. But I hope that this gets the attention of the big teams. He was driving for Dale juniors team who owns, I think, Connor's car.

And so, you know, that's like he's a great driver and this proves that he's a great driver. And I'm just so excited for him. So shout out, Parker, for finally winning even though you won't get the credit.

That rules. Isn't that weird? Wow. That's so funny. It's so funny. Good, I mean, good for him. What place was he in when they was in when they swapped? Yeah.

And say, from that point, okay, wait, caution on lap. Oh, lap, I mean, lap 13. Click on the clicker, man, got behind the wheel link and see where that takes us.

Doesn't forget to bring a virus here. All right. Well, video. Oh, yeah. All right. Well, for the long term treatment of chronic. First we have to learn, let's learn about what drugs to ask for.

Not what drugs. Okay, here. All right, here's the pit stop. Why did it say? Okay, doesn't say it doesn't. We need a lower. We need a higher on here.

This is an incredibly dull YouTube video. This is just the pit stop. This this YouTube video stinks. They can't believe there. Well, Parker waits there. Parker looks like bored. Wait, we need to get in the car.

Something terrible is happening there. Yeah, it does. They're cleaning a lot of stuff up. Yeah, but well, if we had audio on it, I guess it would tell us what place he was. Yeah, right.

All right. Well, either way, good drive, Parker. Sorry, no one will ever hear about it again.

He's gonna get a good ride from it. I'm trying to get merch. He needs to get merch going. Think of get get your merch brain gone. Parker wins with an asterisk or something like that.

Yes, exactly. Okay, do. Okay, I have an update on Zamaier's manks as predicted. The car was running again within about 20 minutes of it arriving at manks.

Johnathan, a radio engine master down there called me and said it's a radiologist. Yes, we should get him a t-shirt. His merch game going.

Trace it. Trace the problem to my front left blinker, which was supplied by a company called want to say yes.

Well, I know the answer to which I said what the fuck?

For those don't know what is Lucas well known for? We're not talking about films shitty electronics.

Yes. Now apparently this is this is not the same company. They've just acquired the name from what from what we're talking about.

But it was there was a short in my left blinker. And so I don't know. I definitely used the left blinker a lot throughout the week. I drove the car.

There's your problem. There's that very last time I signaled left that it so so they they're rewiring the fuse panel circuit panel so that that can't possibly if if any of those things happen that it can't kill the car.

A small a small fault can't kill the whole car lessons. Yeah, last these are lessons. And they've also I had a list of updates that I requested including windows windows. I want doors. I want windows. I want a radio. I want full climate control airbags side curtain airbags.

Roll cage or refrigerator a fish tank and call it color printer color printer. No, I'm retuning the throttle for better right better thing tightening the shift collar a little bit. It's a little bit you know it's that adjustable collar and it's a little bit floppy left to right.

So I'm just a little tighter there and just like and see I wanted to see if they can move the break pedal not move it but like you have the breaks work great but you have to press the pedal too hard too far to get an initial bite.

I want a higher initial bite for a better heel towing. I have to really like work my foot weird but if I can get a higher bite it would be like ace just like little bullshit like that.

The lengthen the windshield wiper arms. I told them about the windshield wipers and he was like it's not really meant to be driven in the right mic. It's like no shit white no shit.

Lucas Automoto is one of the world's oldest continuously trading automotive brands back to 1875. So I guess that's why a company would acquire it so they can put that in their marketing sure but their reputation.

This is reputation as not good is so bad. It was like it was basically blamed for all the electrical faults of every British car in like the mid 1900s.

But like this that light is probably like some kind of OE part from some other old fucking car from the 60s and that's just like you know what I mean and this is now the new version of that old part for that old.

Yeah, I don't think I don't think it was the part the fault of the light. I think it had a bad like crimp on it or something fixed. It's fixed.

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I also wanted them to add a bat what are called batons across the top, like the top, which is like a stretched canvas. It seems very tight when the car is sitting there. But when you drive like 60 miles an hour, the center bit, like it doesn't have any structure and it like flaps a bit.

Oh right there's getting under it. Yeah, it's not like bothersome, but I could totally see it just stretching out and getting shitty like over time.

So I want them to like add some like ridges, basically either either they sew like a wire into it, like a fucking bra or you know whatever it is.

They've already got a couple in there, like just more basically to keep make it do that less.

I wonder, I mean, that's, you know, the cobra has those like spikes all over the outside of the cockpit.

Yeah, snap the tonneau cover into it, which was a down now. Understand why?

Well, there's only, yeah, there's only, I mean, there's only, there's the windshield and there's only other than the two points of contact to the back.

And then the roll hoops, which is stretched over the two roll bars.

Yeah, back makes sense. Yeah, but the front, that's a, that's an interesting challenge like getting the front leading edge to stay down.

You know, without adding something because when you take it off, you want it to be like a nice clean.

Well, that's easy. The front leading edge hooks into the windshield.

Wait, I thought that's a part that's coming up.

No, no, no, it's not coming up. It's like the windshield is a fix.

That's not a problem. But then there's a metal bar above my head and it's stretched over that.

In between, it's like three feet of nothing.

Yeah, right in the middle over like the shifter.

Okay, is the biggest, is the farthest from any structure.

And so I need, I want like an X or some whatever to keep to add structure to that middle bit.

Okay, yeah, I'm sure the person who made this top could make that in 20 minutes.

Sure. Yeah, like if you, if it was a sailmaker, you'd make it in five, like sales have this, like the main sales on the boats have like four or five.

Like maybe they're like a foot long and maybe two inches wide.

And they're sewn into the sail to keep it from flapping on the edge that's away from the mast.

Right.

Because there's no structure out there. Got it.

Yeah, cool.

Yeah, so I want some of them.

So the shit don't flap.

Yeah.

But yeah, it's running again. It's totally fine.

And actually, I was like, all right, can I have it back for the weekend?

And Jonathan was like, uh, we're doing a photo shoot with it next week.

And then you can have back it for that.

I was like, uh, photo shoot.

Like, what are we doing here?

He's like, can someone come by your house and get the floor mats?

Yeah.

I'm like, do I need to sign a release for my car?

What the fuck?

Paying retail over here, bro.

Again, if that's small manufacturer supercar, they're like, by the way, we're borrowing your car.

And you know, they get, you know, it's like if they gave us the black roof rodeo.

Yeah, he's like, he's like, uh, you got, you got stuff to drive.

We do.

We got cars coming in our fucking eyeballs right now.

Yeah.

Like the roof rodeo, which, which we were in fairness, it was a, it wasn't a bait and switch.

It was a break and switch.

It was the last minute, the last minute switch.

We were supposed to drive this roof SCR tribute, which is this crazy air cooled thing.

And they were like, it's, it's not quite ready.

Do you want to drive the rodeo?

And at first I asked Zach, like, do we want to drive the rodeo?

Because I didn't know if they would let us drive it appropriately.

Right.

And then they were like, no, we're going to be cool.

And I was like, well, okay.

And I'm boy, am I glad we did because the roof rodeo, it looks, I don't want to say it looks a little cartoony.

Yeah.

Right.

It does look a kind of cartoonish.

And like, I don't want to be, I don't want to insult the roofs because I love them.

But like, and I don't mean this in a bad way.

But like a little silly, like, it's like a whimsical, like, like a toy kind of, right?

Like exaggerated proportions.

Well, it's very exaggerated.

The rear end on this, I think the rear fenders are like five inches wider than the SCR.

Yeah.

And that does not look narrow at all.

Yeah.

And like the fender flares are huge.

Uh, the bumpers are also like a more rectangular design than the rest of the car, which is very round, or the SCR.

Like 911s are very round or shape.

So it does, it seems like it's growing these.

Yeah.

It's like transforming into a roll off road machine.

Yeah.

In front of you.

But like the front and rear bumpers, they don't look like rally car stuff, or they don't look motor sport inspired.

I'm not sure what they're inspired by.

But that's why, like, I think it's the front and rear bumpers more than anything, where I get kind of like, huh, like the cartooniness.

Sure.

The side, the sides, the fender flares.

Okay, the wheels.

Yes, I see a rally inspired thing.

But either way, um, this is a fucking goddamn great time this car.

This is, so it's the carbon tub.

It's, uh, it's the Metzger-based, uh, Roof 3.6 liter, 610 horsepower twin turbo engine.

It has a manually, uh, torque selectable all wheel drive system.

You can go, uh, I think you can do anything from 50, 50 to 100 percent rear.

You can do anything from 49, 51 to 100 percent rear.

Yeah, yeah.

And ours is the prototype.

So ours would only switch between what seemed like, well, the display had like an automatic ratio change.

And then you could go full 100 rear.

Yeah.

But what I think is cool is they set on the production one.

It's almost like a real stat or a knob where you can go any percentage in between those two ends.

It seemed like it was, it was ready to be a touchscreen slider.

I think that's what it was.

But ours only had the two settings, which like for our purposes was just fine actually.

Um, but you know, it's got the in-board suspension.

It's a, it's, and I said carbon tub.

When they first told me it was under 3,000 pounds.

I was like, no fucking way, but it might be.

I felt say 2700, which is no, it was 2950 wet.

Oh, wet.

So yeah, I saw it was dry.

Probably dry.

Yeah, this is 2950 wet.

Make sure to use my, my clip in the video.

We're both right.

Yeah, yeah.

Um, and I, I was like, there's just no way.

Like my, my 1987 car, like what, you know, wasn't that light.

But like, I don't know, I'm like, I know it might be.

I, I don't know what, you know, a G body body weighs by itself.

Probably heard from so many super car manufacturers, including SSC.

But everyone seems to land with a body chassis that's like 200 pounds.

Yeah.

Like every company likes to say two people can lift this and carry it around.

Yeah.

I would guess speculating because I don't know what to say.

Yeah.

So I mean carbon fiber, it just, it highlights how great that is.

And like, man, so it, this thing really has some fun dynamic habits, doesn't it?

Oh, yeah.

It can make big swales in the road, like completely disappear, which is really fun.

Um, but the weight transfer movements are very accentuated, which is also very fun.

Uh, when you like rip through the gears at full throttle, the thing like bucks forward

and backwards between shifts in just a hilarious way.

Also, in first gear and second, it throws up traction control.

Like it's trying to do a burnout.

Once you cross about four and a half thousand RPM, like any of the turn traction off,

it does like a little rolling off roadie burnout.

Not tarmac.

Yeah.

It's a 610 horsepower and like 516 torque.

Yeah.

It's a lot.

It's a fast, fast, fast car.

Yeah.

Uh, and, and it, you do have to make a lot of adjustments to drive it fast on the street

and it's kind of sloppy, but it's fun.

Yes.

Like it's actually a very fucking good time and it has the same turning habits of the strato

where you just lift, turn, flick, smash and it will just do a four wheel slide

like new problem.

Yeah.

All gravy.

Um, it's really has a fabulous front rear left-right balance.

It's really good.

And then steering is quick.

It's still really talkative.

Yeah.

It's not super heavy.

You, despite having these big tires and stuff, but it's talkative reacts quickly.

Uh, you know, it does that thing we love.

We've talked about so many times.

Like trophy truck movement, rally car movement.

It's, I'd say the suspension is softer than, uh, the rally cars I drove at rally ready.

And so because of that, you have a little more movement, but it's adaptive shocks

though you can hit the button, but we were driving, I was driving in soft mode.

And it just floated over all these road imperfections that I absolutely felt in my car.

And then you go into those corners and it's just like leans five inches.

Yes.

And then the tire leans a little bit and then, oh man, it's such a good time.

It's so easy to drive with like two degrees of oversteer everywhere.

Um, because the weight transfer is so good when you break, all you have to do is break

and turn.

It will do the rest for you.

If you turn just a little harder than you normally would, you just get a, uh,

the little is bit.

And now you're about, it's, it's gorgeous.

Absolutely fabulous.

It's so fucking fun.

It'll be awesome because you had some, like big honk and impressive tarmac slides in the car.

I was really having a lot of fun.

Yeah.

Uh, the trunk is pretty much gone though because there's in-board front suspension.

And like other things where trunk was.

Yeah.

Um, not in, uh, uh, there's also what was up there?

The electric air conditioning and the something else.

But there's like, it looked like it was up there.

It's really not a lot of trunk, although there is room behind the seats.

You can throw stuff back there.

Well, behind the seat is a, is a, I'll call it a tall shelf.

Yeah.

Like the shelf starts at your shoulders.

Yeah.

So you could put jackets or small things.

The trunk, or so the front is like big enough to hold the briefcase.

You have cash.

Right.

It's a very shallow carbon fiber front.

Yeah.

Uh, that's not good on the ring.

Not great on the storage.

But it's got roof rails.

True.

So you could, you could do the cargo box.

Yeah, you'd have to do a cargo box.

Because you don't want to like strap things to the roof because then it's on the paint.

Yeah.

Fuck.

It's a million dollars.

But it's so.

It's going way too sweet.

It dynamically, fantastic.

Yeah.

Just like other roof stuff we've driven.

Um, so much fun.

And all, all of the themes of it of these like the movement of the body is something we don't

really experience a lot in new cars because new sports cars are so stiff.

And it's so fun to feel those limits, you know, at a lower speed.

If you had, if you had, you know, a 9-11 turbo on that road, there's no way you're sliding

anywhere because you'd have to go way too fucking fast.

No, no, no.

You have to be insane.

You'll be sliding 100 miles an hour.

Exactly.

And so this, it's just, it brings all of that joy to more accessible level speeds.

Yeah.

Levels because it's so expensive.

But you can learn a lot by driving a car like this too.

Yeah.

It's really good.

Absolutely.

Is there any of these three shots the interior?

The interior is is a Ralph Lauren inspired interior.

It's got really high end leather on everything as well as, I mean, what I called in the video.

I called them like Native American blankets.

I'm not really sure if that's accurate or not, but that's the impression that I get from them western blankets

and the ceiling headliners of western blanket too.

It's fucking awesome.

The dash construction and stitching and leather work is like the best I've ever seen.

Yeah, it's really, really nice.

Really impressive.

I wish the steering wheel adjusted.

Dude.

It's the only thing about this car that's not like a 12.

It telescope.

And the air goes from kind of sucks.

The steering wheel goes from touching the dashboard essentially to like four inches closer to you.

But you're sitting, we're sitting both of us.

Like we wanted six more inches.

Yeah.

Enjoy that clip internet.

You know, if you, like I was sitting too close to it for my feet, but it, you know, you do what you have to do.

I was just, I was surprised for a car that costs this much money and has had attention paid to every single bit of it in such an amazing way

from like the science, the materials, the construction, the execution, the tuning to have that as a miss.

Yeah.

I was really surprised.

There might be a very good reason it can't be done.

But it is, and it wouldn't keep me from buying one or wanting one or whatever.

But, you know, the singer had the perfect driving position.

It did.

Singer Turbo did like, I hate to say it.

But like, you know, there's, there's someone out there that might, that might think those two are competitors.

Well, I know that PR is listening.

And I know that they're going to ask roof why and we'll get an answer.

Because it might be like a tube rule.

They can't use a new steering column.

It might be.

Or something like that.

Yeah.

But that was truly the only miss.

Yeah.

And it wouldn't keep me from buying the car.

If I could afford it and if I could get one, I totally would.

It's rad.

It is rad.

Yeah.

It's, uh, you're paying a hefty premium for the name.

And we, we probably both talked about the competition in the, in car.

But some, the competition doesn't have a carbon fiber tub.

Yeah.

And the name comes with the tub and that engine.

It comes with both.

I mean, yeah.

The fabulous interior materials, you know, are, are great.

They're not exclusive to roof.

Other people can do great interior as well.

True.

And there's certain other things about this car that other, other companies can also do very, very well.

Such as a TJ Russell.

Right.

It does an amazing job with his, uh, Russell built cars.

That thing was super sick.

That was different though.

That was like a 3.8 air cooled car.

I mean, it was a beautiful car.

It was, it was really fun, really beautiful.

Um, but yeah, the carbon tub and the brand name do.

And by the way, I'm not convinced despite how awesome this is that they're going to sell that many.

I'm not fully, I mean, maybe they are.

I hope they are.

It's fucking cool.

If someone out there is like, hey, should I?

Yeah, you should.

But like, I'm not sure if their customer, the customer who wants a roof.

And the customer who has this kind of money is going to criss-cross intersect with the customer who's looking for that type of product.

I totally agree with you.

And also you need the customer who is going to play with it in the dirt.

Yeah.

Because I think if, you know, a lot of people buy expensive cars that are track oriented or high performance.

And they only take them to cars and coffee and whatever.

But I think this is even more strange.

And so if most people had to pick between driving the high performance car meant for tarmac to an event that's held on tarmac versus the off road thing.

Yeah.

They'll probably find themselves leaning more toward the tarmac one because it's a little more at home, I guess, and maybe a little more exciting to them.

This is definitely a niche type of thing.

Yeah, but it's so cool.

Yeah.

You just have to be, you know, real rich and real brave.

Yeah.

I mean, you have to, like, not brave, brave because it's not that the limits of this car are low.

It's very fast, but you can have all the fun with it at very low speeds.

Yeah.

You can find an empty gravel lot.

And in first and second gear, have an insane amount of fun with this car safely.

Or, you know, if you live in like the Southwest or anywhere, honestly, where there's logging roads or open BLM land.

Yeah.

And obviously you have to be a baller to enjoy this.

Like, the car deserves to be taken to those locations, you know, like let this dog run free.

Because otherwise you are missing out on so much of the experience and all you're doing is stunting around and like eating potholes, but who cares?

Yeah.

But gosh, take this on, you know, for this is an investment.

You shouldn't do this as an investment.

Do this one as, do this one as a cash burn.

Yeah.

If you got, you got to have and be willing to spend like, you know, like when I go to play a black check, I've got my like $100 entertainment fund to an art entertainment.

And I go, this is gone.

It's the entertainment fund.

It comes back great.

But if not, you know, you need to have this needs to be this crazy that we're talking about numbers like this.

It is.

It's a very small number of people, but if you, but even worse is when people have the access to buy shit like this.

And then they do.

And then they worry about earning a positive return so they just don't drive it.

They don't scratch it.

Yeah.

So because they'll lose money on it.

Yeah.

This is like, I mean, does two things because obviously it's out of touch to say that people everyone should buy this.

Everyone.

And I mean, anyone in almost any price point should experience sport car on dirt.

Yeah.

In some capacity because the things we're talking about that we enjoyed, you know, short of like the adjustable diff and the power.

You can have that kind of fun in a $3,000 E30 that you put like some, you know, Billstein HD's on.

Yeah.

So anything with like a decent diff and some decent shocks and tires and ground clearance.

Like it can be a shitty car.

You'll have all the fun.

One might argue it should be a shitty car.

Yeah.

You might have more fun than this.

If I, if you put me in a shitty rally car versus a roof rodeo that I've paid for somehow have paid for.

And the same thing I'm probably going to have a little more fun in the shitty car.

Yeah.

Honestly.

Because I can't roll like that.

Yeah.

Because it's more.

Yeah.

Disposable.

And I think that actually, you know, one of the things that works against this is that buying a purpose built Baja 1000 pre-runner or luxury pre-runner or, you know, serious truck.

He's also nearing a million dollars now.

I mean, those things fully built with every bell and whistle.

That is extremely expensive.

King of hammers vehicle.

I mean, those are well into six figures.

Yeah.

So part of me goes, all right, well, if you like sports cars and you are in that industry or like that stuff, this is a good time.

But maybe those trucks are more durable.

You can't really damage them as much.

And so people will still treat this a little too cautiously.

Yeah.

I mean, I hope that whatever, you know, single or double digit number of people end up with these.

I mean, like, the odds of me ever seeing one again, right?

Yep.

Are basically zero.

In person, like, the odds of ever driving one again are zero.

I told Mike, who I got to, I took Mike for a ride in this thing.

And I was like, I hope you understand.

And he does.

And I wasn't trying to like belittle him.

I was like, but I hope you understand.

You will probably never be in the presence of one of these things ever again.

Like, just, that's just a fact of things.

You go to all the cars and coffees, you can ever go to it.

You'll probably never see another one of these things.

Yeah, that's a good point.

Let alone like go sideways in one.

I think this is a weird, weird thing we're doing right now.

In Monterey, we were on a street and there were five Paganis.

And I think they, you know, coordinated to be there.

I don't know if we'll ever see five rodeos, even at Monterey car weeks.

Yeah, probably not.

Maybe unless they have a rodeo, right?

Yeah.

Maybe they'll do it on rodeo.

Yeah, or they'll rent the Bronco off rodeo in Texas.

Probably not.

I saw that place.

We drove by it for the scout I did.

Right.

We've had a lot of questions left over from last time, I think.

We do a bit.

And people are paying attention on Saturday.

We got some questions all right.

People are paying attention on Saturday, huh?

It's a boring ass day today.

I guess so.

Yeah, absolutely.

There were like seven different temperatures this morning.

Really, really weird.

So humid, really strange.

Yeah, the humid, it's some California can't, can't handle our fragile temperature system.

We can't handle if the wind blows from the east, all fucking hell breaks loose.

If the wind comes from the other way, and this is fucking slightest bit humid, it's all, it all goes to shit.

The fucking 405 is like half closed this weekend.

And half of it.

We, uh, which they need to.

Yeah, yeah.

So Mike and I, uh, rode up this morning.

I was like, I figured like, you know, we can lane split.

We got to get through it on bikes.

I don't want to do it on a car.

And it was pretty shit.

Really?

Yeah.

At 6.45 this morning, it was, it went down from, you know, whatever it is, six lanes between the 10 freeway and sunset.

It went down from six to two lanes.

Oh, did you guys go over the mountain?

Yeah, we rode for five and then.

Yeah, we rode upper bay to hung it today.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

But we weren't early.

Had breakfast over there.

We thought it was going to be super hot.

So that's why we wanted to get out there early.

Yesterday, dude, it was 100 degrees.

When we finished with the rodeo, it was 100 degrees.

It was a sweaty.

And actually, roof, roof does need to work a little bit on their air conditioners.

If I'm honest.

If I like them old Lamborghini.

Yeah.

If I'm honest, Alisa chopped chop.

We need, we need improved air conditioners.

Right.

We had the fan crank to max.

Yeah.

It was gentle.

Like the wind speed was gentle.

Yeah.

And then the cooling was especially for something.

We've only two, but we've five on desert.

The one in North Carolina, the SCR, we didn't really need the air conditioner.

And we were on the track and it wasn't very hot.

Right.

The yellow one in Miami was really hot.

That thing was like that day was really hot and really humid.

Very true.

And this was really hot and really humid.

But I saw Kevin driving it up on the highway.

Like we saw him on the highway and he was driving it up with both windows down.

Yeah.

So clearly, I think my customer has not complained about the air conditioning in his CTR anniversary.

But yeah, we've, we've not had the best air conditioning experience.

And for this car, which will be driven, should be driven in a lot of strange, inclement weather, desert stuff, it should have a cranking system.

Yeah.

You know, because also if you have the windows down, you're going to get dirt inside the car, which will happen, but you don't want to welcome it.

No, you don't want to be like mobbing on dirt with the windows down in a car like this if you have the alternative.

Not with that, not interior like that.

But it's so sick.

Thank you guys for letting us drive it.

We appreciate you.

And thank you for not being wieners about it too and being cool.

Let me just like rip it a little bit in the dirt and have fun with it and make it.

Make it move around a little bit.

I applaud them for allowing us to do that.

And then going, yeah, it'll be fine.

Yeah.

Because if you want to sell the car like that, a car like that, you should allow people to drive it in the way it's meant to be driven.

Exactly.

Are you ready to go to the people?

Yeah, I get ahead of you there a little bit for a moment.

No, it's fine.

We got a bunch.

Great.

Let's go to them.

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Now, a second Jay Z has hit the Supra says, Matt and Zach, what was the most unique car you saw in regular traffic during car week?

I know.

I don't think, I don't know, I guess being on the tour does count, but.

Calling it, I think calling it unique is my struggle.

Like in normal traffic, not in the tour, I was behind the green Mura SV that I think went to the lawn later.

It was just like, oh, and I showed Sarah, excuse me the car, and I go, see how we're just behind this thing and we're all sitting at a stoplight.

I think that was probably the rarest.

I saw on the way into Monterey arriving on Wednesday morning.

I saw the Alfa Romeo disco Vellante being driven around and I was like, holy shit.

And even had I was like, I have no idea what that is, but I can tell by looking at it that it's something nuts.

Wow.

Yeah.

And then, oh, Southbound on the one we left, we passed that.

Like Harlequin 9-11.

Oh, yeah.

Which I guess we're like the Sean Wetherspoon cars.

Yeah, they were like given to random people to drive down, but it just happened upon them.

Yeah.

Pretty cool stuff.

Yeah.

Tom Earley says, what's the shortest amount of time you've ever kept a car that you intended to keep long term?

I had the Hummer H1 for three months.

Oh, that was the shortest.

Yeah.

Oh, I thought it was longer than that.

No, three months.

I couldn't get rid of it fast enough.

It was fucking stupid.

It might have been four or five, but I remember it in my head, it's three.

It was definitely less than six.

Yeah.

It was not good.

Yeah, I feel like the winter, right?

And then you got out.

Yeah, I bought it like in November, and I sold it like before the summer.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

Lick my Aztec, it's kind of funny.

True or false, the 996 is without question the ugliest 911 ever made.

There's a couple to me that are kind of bad.

There's a couple of those like weird bumper cars, like the long bumper train, like 74 or 75.

Like weird.

They look a little strange to me that I don't really like.

Slant nose to me.

Like, you know, I'm not into a slant nose.

It's not like the shape of it's fine, but I look at I just think it's strange.

Plus it had like the weird big bumpers back then also.

So I think the 996, especially from profile is better looking, but.

Yeah, I.

Yeah.

I don't.

The thing is most of the cars look.

I'm not trying to be sparing as I usually am.

Like they're kind of the same.

They're very similar.

So it's like sure it's the ugliest, but only because the headlight was not round for a brief amount of time.

Otherwise, it would all be like a tie.

So yeah, if you put 997 headlights on a 996, it would really change it a lot.

It's really just the headlights more so than anything else.

Yeah.

It's like, you know, John Kate plus eight.

Like if one of their children looked very two percent different, like that's the ugly one.

I don't look the same.

Okay.

Oh, Drake got out of the.

Oh, Drake got out of the terrible.

All right.

Good to go.

Good on you, bro.

Gary Peace.

I thought it's on the new rise against album.

PS, your attorney is awesome.

I hope you mean off the record and we do love off the record.

I haven't listened to the whole rise against album yet.

I really should because I'm seeing them in three weeks in New York.

But the songs I've heard come through my Apple music are good.

Disrespectfully agree.

I like that one.

Can you speak on proper seating position for spirited driving?

Like how bent should my legs and elbows be?

How far should I be from the wheel?

I like to be assuming you're driving a manual far enough from the dashboard so that your clutch pedal hits the floor

before your leg is hyper extended.

Yeah.

Like when it's like just almost fully extended.

And I sit a little further back than that if I'm like cruising long distance.

And then when you drape your hand over the wheel,

it's your wrist should sit on the top of the wheel.

And you should sit like pretty upright.

That's pretty much it.

And usually if I'm driving fast or whatever, I sit a little more upright than like,

you know, there's like seven tenths seating and then I go and move it up a little bit more for faster.

Yeah, if you're really on a track or something, then you don't want to be streaching for the wheel.

You want the wheel to be pretty not pretty close, but you want to be able to hold the wheel at nine and three

and have your elbows be solidly bent.

Yes.

You'll have much better leverage.

You'll wear out your arms less.

Yeah, use your shoulders back in your shoulders and also your range of motion.

You can just sit in your car and go, if your arms are straight, like how much can you move more?

You're all crossed up versus, you know, full 180 or 270 degrees.

Yeah.

Lots of talk usually shit.

That's pretty funny.

EV manufacturers have been able to sell their credits to OEMs who don't produce enough zero emissions vehicles.

Now that there are zero dollar fines imposed by cafe, is there still a market for EV credits?

Interesting question.

I'm not sure that cafe standards and EV credits are part of the same system.

They may be separate.

I mean, cafe is a corporate average fuel economy.

I don't know if green credits are used to boost your corporate average fuel economy or if they're used to offset not producing either enough numbers or enough percentages of electric vehicles.

So like on the one hand, if there's no fine by cafe and EV credits were used to get you help towards cafe, then I would say that yeah,

Tesla and other car makers who are selling their shit are kind of in trouble.

If that is not the case in their separate systems entirely, you know, then.

And just for like to add context, Tesla, for example, they made a lot of money selling EV credits.

I'm not picking on them, I'm just bringing them up because I knew that.

They made $692 million selling regulatory credits in the final quarter of 2024 alone.

And it was nearly 30% of their income for that quarter.

So, you know, companies like them were making a ton of extra money.

Yeah.

Not just selling cars, selling these credits.

I just don't know if they're the same system, you know, the credit they might it might not be.

But yeah, that could be a problem.

How maybe auto sport, how maybe I auto sport, excuse me, what's the best way to make a boring car interesting?

Nearly anything can be made cool by lowering and adding tasteful wheels.

Sure.

That's certainly a good place to start.

Yeah, you can tweak some cosmetics, ride height wheels.

You can do, you know, paint body colored moldings, you know, body or paint moldings body color instead of black.

You can do stuff like that.

I think any kind of individuality helps and people, you know, like we have to define interesting.

But if you have a boring car and you open the door and the interior, for example, like the seats are restitched, people go,

oh, you put your own spin on this.

You put your flavor on this car.

It's not just an LS400, you know, something like that that makes it stand out from the other cars that might be at the meat.

Um, I, well, okay, wait.

Waymo, waymo hand jobs from women I hardly know.

That is like, there's layers to that.

The lay that you've got a waymo and the play on the word waymo and hand jobs from women I hardly know is from crazy people.

Yeah, you guys haven't seen crazy people.

You need to go watch crazy people because it's fucking awesome.

And also, if the waymo is giving the hand job, does that mean it's an autonomous hand job?

Well, not a crazy person because it's a Jaguar because the ad was for Jaguar.

Yes, I want a hand job.

That is a fantastic name.

That really is.

There's like, there's like five layers to that.

There's like layers to that.

I very much respect that.

And they tracked their stock M3M2 comp a couple of weekends a year.

I want to improve turn in, but I don't have a ton of mod money.

Should I spend money on new suspension or a squared wheel setup on dedicated track tires?

I think you should do a squared wheel setup on dedicated track tires.

Right?

If you want to go faster on the track, turn in harder.

I would do the track shit.

You'll leave your warranty, whatever's about it, left of it intact.

You won't make it too stiff for the street.

I'm not sure you're stiffening your suspension.

We'll do all that much for your turn in.

I totally agree with you.

It's already an M2 comp.

The last time I drove one of those, I was not wanting for more spring rate.

I was granted I was on Angeles Crest, but it seemed like a pretty stiff car.

But if you add sticky tires, we've talked about you're going to stop better.

You'll accelerate better.

Your turn in, your max grip will be better.

And I have cheaper than buying suspension for a little bit.

And I assume based on the fact that they are asking about a square stand setup,

that that is a thing that people do on the M2s.

I've not looked into that about M2s, but they do it in Mustangs.

They do it in Camaro.

I assume they do it in M2s.

So if people are already doing that, that seems like a thing.

And you may be able to get a factory alignment.

You may be able to get an alignment using your renew wheels and tires

that is designed to help you turn in harder.

It may be at the expense of straight line stability, but you're on a track.

Like you're two hands on the fucking wheel, and it's a flat surface.

Like tramlining isn't a problem.

You can get a track alignment for those wheels and tires.

Yes.

I'll say that going square stands and getting alignment of my car,

transformed how the front end felt.

Yeah.

Spin the Mercedes black circle.

That's funny because it's Pearl Jam.

But how does the Mercedes black circle, is that like the star?

I think so.

Okay.

Got to be, right?

I guess, but give it a seven.

I mean, respect for Pearl Jam and for like trying, but like,

we don't call it the Mercedes black circle.

Do you?

You call it like the three pointed star?

Yeah.

Right.

Just saying.

Would an advanced driving course like dirt fish be too much for a 16-year-old

that just got his license?

Fuck no.

Such a good idea.

Send it both the kid to the school and the car once he's there.

And whoever you're asking, you should do it with them.

Yeah.

Maybe a great bonding experience.

But I think this will lead to your, your kid being a safer driver.

Should something ever go wrong and inclement weather?

Just make sure that they know to like,

they don't feel like they got a superpower and then they can go explore those limits on public roads.

Mike Hancho's playgirl spread.

How similar are Audi R8s to R35 GTRs?

Zero.

Very different.

I have an R35 GTR and want to add a V10 experience.

I've never been in an R8, but worry it will feel too similar to the 35 with both being all-wheel drive.

Mid-engine versus front-engine.

No, I think they're very different cars.

Yep.

I don't, there's not a lot that they have in common, really.

I mean, except there may be a little pushy under breaking.

But...

Just not all drive systems are created equal.

Not all cars that all will drive will feel equal.

I think the R35 feels bigger, heavier, literally clunkier because of the transmission.

I mean, the R8 feels like a smaller car, more exotic, of course.

The sound is better.

The gearbox is better.

Yeah, I think they'll do better.

It's serious, better.

Yeah.

I mean, you're not going to...

You might not want to get back into the R35.

He's spending time in an R8.

You can probably...

Where can you go driving an R8?

I would turbo one if you can.

You might be able to go to like Vegas.

I may be some of the track...

The Dream Racing or someone might still be running on.

Find dealerships on the use one and just tell them you're curious.

And if you show up in a car that...

If they deem you a responsible person that has the money to fix it,

if you break it, then my own test drive it.

Ironically, they say it would a fourth-gen Viper be a good choice.

I think cockpit-wise and visibility, that actually feels more similar to an R35.

Yeah, it does.

You know, dynamically, it's very different.

But like, they're both this cocoon you can't really see out of.

Fourth-gen Viper's are really plasticky.

I mean, they're very capable, especially the ACR's.

But man, I...

I love the idea of a Viper.

Every time I sit in one, I go, no.

Hell, no.

They're such good-looking cars, though.

Yeah.

GTS.

Oh, boy.

They fucking junk to touch.

They're just bad to the touch.

I don't know the answer to that one.

The second JZ has hit the Supra.

No, Nissan announced this week they're bringing back the X-Tera.

And Infinity would be getting another manual transmission rear drive sedan.

Is it too little, too late for them?

Or do you think they can somehow pull themselves back?

Huh.

So another G35.

Yeah, G, whatever.

Yeah.

That's probably a G400 or something, or, you know.

Probably that, right?

Yeah, probably built on the Nissan 400.

Yeah, the Nissan architecture.

And...

I mean, the X-Tera could be awesome, actually, if it's a good little truck.

Yeah, I never really know what Infinity's doing.

I mean, they had...

Usually they...

They had such a fucking smash hit with the first-gen G35s.

Yeah.

That first-gen G35 coupe ripped.

Yeah, it was great car.

Yeah.

What were they doing after that?

What happened?

Well, I mean, look, the entire market basically moved away from coupe sedan,

and that was their bread and butter.

They went to crossovers.

Yeah.

And...

But Nissan probably sold way more rogues than Infinity sold.

I'm speculating, but like, I see more of them around.

I don't know.

But I think the things we loved about Infinity were the cars.

Yeah.

And people are buying cars.

Yeah.

I don't know, man.

When they started doing these, like, little compact crossover things in Infinity,

I don't know.

I don't care.

My trainer, Sean, had an Infinity G37.

He got rid of it.

He was, like, a mole for this thing.

How be me come back?

Do either of you remember the moment you got into cars?

I do.

The moment.

I mean, not the moment, but I remember, like, I have, like, my first car magazine,

I still have, had the Dolorian on the cover.

Oh, right.

It explains a little bit.

Do you have, like, every magazine somewhere?

Every note.

I thought, oh, I thought you said once you had, like, all car...

I had all car and driver road and track from, like, 1988 to, like, 2004.

Oh, that's a lot.

It is a lot.

It's, like, a couple of bins for them.

Yeah.

I think the moment would either be when my, when I was five, my dad let me, like, shift or

steer his scout.

Oh, yeah.

So I was like, oh, that's fun.

Ooh, gears.

Giers.

And then our neighbor, we lived out in, like, forest land and our neighbor was a repair man

for the boardwalk.

And they used to have these old...

Like, they lived like mini-carbon gears that they used to, like, let people drive somewhere

on the track.

And he, like, unbolted it from the safety track and you could just drive it around.

So we just...

His son took me for a ride in the dirt and I went, oh, shit.

This is a good time.

Yeah.

So that was probably it.

Yeah.

I see dead ultimas.

Thoughts on a possible tip-tronic to manual swap on 996s.

I think you're...

There'd be more money in it for early 997s.

Yeah, do it.

Like...

I mean...

Got to be possible, right?

I don't think the delta between the two cars is all that much.

I mean, a tip-tronic 996 is, like, 20 grand and a manual one is, like, 35.

Which is, like, don't be wrong.

That's a real money difference, but, like, that's not a lot of room for a viable business

model and labor and all that and the fact that the car is no longer original.

Right.

You know, and whatever.

And as we've learned from Oz, the guy with ESL, but in other cars, it's not just swapping

the hardware sometimes.

As you get into newer cars, there might be ECU work that has to get done.

So finding someone that can tell the car that this transmission swap is okay may be

more challenging than just bolting stuff up.

Yeah.

Josh J said, are there companies that can help find niche cars that are not necessarily

super expensive, like 80's, sobs, or TVRs?

I mean, the car, like, broker, sorcerer type of people just tend to work at the higher

end because, like, if it's the same amount of work to find a fucking sob or a Ferrari and

you get paid in a percentage, what are you looking for sobs for?

Yeah.

I don't know.

I mean, the importers, a lot of those guys know, like, because they look at auctions,

like foreign wholesale auctions.

And so they might be able to find stuff like that.

That's probably a good call is finding someone that does a lot of, like, a volume of business

and just telling them that you're looking for this and they might stumble, like, switch

cars or something.

Just put it a bug in their ear and maybe they'll hit you up one day, but you're probably

going to have better luck just doing your own research on eBay and stuff.

Yeah.

Remak, my Passat is pretty funny.

I would, is that better than Passat, my, I think, Passat, my Remak might be better?

Passat, either way.

What was the question there?

Oh, if you were going to have a comedian's lemons team, who would you want on your crew?

Crew chief, driver, lead tech, crew chief, I'd want to be Lewis Black.

Not expecting that answer at all.

As a driver, I mean, who's, I mean, who's, like, Tom is the obvious one, but someone's

going to be faster than Tom.

What can some comedians have done the fucking that celebrity, Grand Prix?

There's, well, there's, what's his, oh, Adam Corolla, I guess.

There's him, but there's also Frankie Munez.

Oh, yeah.

Nobody's very funny.

Yeah.

And he's fast.

Yeah, he races in that car, racing.

Yeah.

A lot of stuff.

Yeah.

He'd probably be really fun.

I think Crew chief, I'm going to go with Anthony Gesselnick because he's such a calculating

specific person.

Oh, okay.

That car and that team are going to run like a clockwork.

Yeah.

Like, he'd call you into the pits, but then not do anything.

And he'd be like, Anthony, why did you call him the pits and he goes, I just want to tell

you that I cut the other team's brake lines.

Now get back in.

This is ruthless.

Yeah, that's a good one.

I would definitely want Kippy and Foley in charge of hot dogs for the team.

Sure.

I mean, yeah, they seem like they know food.

They do.

Yeah.

NK says what modern super car is the most influential and serves as the poster car for

Gen Z.

It's got to be Conex X.

Those car spotter kids, it's fucking all about Conex X for them, you know?

Yeah, but also I think Pagani's, I think it's always a super expensive stuff because

and it looks like alien technology.

So yeah, they're into it.

I stewdog is asking if we've seen a video, I did see it, but I don't, I would like to

know what happened before I talk about it.

Okay.

We actually skipped the question of Jeep Hock too, because we know we're sorry.

A spherical driver's mirrors are hard to get in the US.

What other features do foreign market cars have that you wish we had here, and what do

we have that other markets need?

They have the connected car speed limit displays, which are connected to the roads, which is

nice variable speed limits.

I see them.

Oh my God.

I like that.

I wish we had the fast diesels like the people used they have over there.

Yeah.

They had laser headlights, which I think we're just starting to get now.

Those are some of the better features that they have over there that we don't.

What do we have that other markets need?

The handy V8, my hand, the TRX for every country.

Yeah.

I don't know why I did that voice for that.

What do we have to offer other countries in terms of driving?

It's a good question, because cars, like a lot of our cars are too big for other countries

in the UK, even our small pickups, they're field gigantic, but they're probably.

I told you about Hannah and the Mercedes G-O G-L-E in Italy, right?

Yeah.

When you see it in context.

So funny.

It's like an elephant.

Yeah.

Well, here in America, if you turn off the A-Dass, it stays off through the cycle.

The point.

They need that in Europe.

Lamborghini in a bottle.

That's pretty fucking good.

Oh, took our advice on finding a clean Radwood car idea and bought a super clean, red, hard

body Nissan Pathfinder with a manual.

There you go.

Those are cool.

I like that.

I think they last forever.

Very cool.

What?

Islander?

Islander says, you wait, okay, wait, hold on, wait, wait, wait, Tony Rodriguez, so, God, what

is the best sounding motorcycle you've ridden?

It's actually only ridden a couple of motorcycles.

I've only ridden three.

So I'll just say, like, any Ducati, though, is my favorite sounding motorcycle.

The best motorcycle I've ridden is the Aprilia Dorsador O750, which is not a very good

motorcycle, but it sounds insane.

I loved it and it was really, really fucking sick sounding.

But I've heard a CBX go by at full clip, and that's just, there's nothing like a CBX.

These are the ends.

All right, I came in Messiah, oh, beard maintenance, beard maintenance routine.

I wash and condition my beard every other day.

That's what I do.

And then I shave.

I also shave my head and everything every other day.

That's it.

I use, I use Keel's close shavers squadron after shave, cream, and it rules, rules.

It's so good.

Kurt Bergstead is a 2013 ZL1 with 20,000 miles for $45,000, a good buy.

That is a really fun car.

Yeah, but that does seem like 20,000 miles is low.

Yeah.

But a 2013 ZL1, that'll have an LSA.

Yeah.

That's going to have a 556 horsepower CTSV engine.

I think the car is like 55 grand.

It's got a mag ride, right?

Yeah.

I mean, that's a fast car and 20,000 miles is low.

45,000 seems high.

I think my question would be, can you get a CTSV that also has LSA?

Not with 20,000 miles.

No, 20,000 miles.

But if I could get a CTSV that has mag ride and essentially the same engine,

the interior is so much nicer.

Yeah.

And I think the ZL1's rad and when we drove it back in the day,

it's like a budget AMG car.

It feels every bit of like GT muscle Mercedes to me, but Camaro interior.

Yeah.

And I feel like it looked cheap when it was brand new.

So I just, I don't think I can live with it now.

And that's a fifth, that's a fifth gen.

The sixth gen was like a little better.

It was.

It was only just.

Yeah.

But man, 45,000, if it was 40, all for 30, all for 35.

All for 35.

Yeah.

Satellite 40.

If they're asking 45, all for 35, meet in the middle at 40 and it's a good buy.

20,000 miles is not a lot for one of these.

Not.

As long as, as long as under your ownership, you kept it under like 40, you're probably

pretty good there.

Travis Pastrana's primary care provider, favorite generation of WRX STI.

Hawkeye all day.

22B.

All day.

Non-US version.

For me, Waymo money, Waymo problems, two Waymo usernames in one.

I don't know what telotrucks are, thoughts on the telotrucks Aptera partnership.

You know I saw an Aptera on the road, one, like they have one that is like a prototype.

They did invite me to drive it.

I never got around to it.

Oh, that's a weird looking thing.

That looks like a Range Rover if you cut the nose off it or like a Rivian with no nose.

It does.

Solar panels on the roof.

Uh-huh.

I mean, look, Aptera's solar panels generate 200 watts each at peak sunlight, delivering

one to two watt hours per day, okay, so one to two watt hours.

The battery on the Ticon is 87 kilowatt hours.

So 87,000 watt hours from zero to full.

And this does one to two, again, 87,000 per day.

Let's just say, even if it was just 87 watts, watt hours, sorry.

That would still take 40 to 80 days to charge it.

So I mean, wait, one to two watt hours per day.

So like, wait, wait, so one to two watt hours per day.

So that means let's just be generous and call it 700 watt hours for a year, right?

So not even one kilowatt hour for a whole year.

That's like not a lot.

And I am happy to be wrong about this.

So if you're listening, you're like, let an electrical engineer, solar engineer, correct

this in the comments.

But it does seem like I completely understand this goal of, can we have solar power that

charges the car?

Infinite energy machine.

Yeah, fantastic.

Great.

Let's do that.

But when we do this math, it does come across like a gimmick.

Now maybe that solar power like runs the electronics inside, but the battery that already,

that powers the vehicle can also do that.

So it just seems like a whimsical idea that actually doesn't do much.

I went to a launch for some kind of prototype car like two years ago that had solar panels

all over it.

And they basically said, if you keep it parked outside all day in like Phoenix or San Diego

or something, then you can get about 1,500 miles a year in solar driving.

This was their claim.

I did not test it or even drive the fucking car.

In fact, the car didn't kind of like a shitbox.

But that's a lot more than what they're talking about here.

But anyway, I don't know.

App Terra did offer to let me drive a car and I should circle back with them and probably

take them upon it because it does look funny and weird.

But they haven't sold any.

That's true.

All right.

I'll even write it down.

All app Terra.

Because I need more things to do.

Are we doing this math, Ron?

Like, this has TiloVietness is on auto week.

TiloVieicals consume 200 to 300 watt hours a mile.

So does that mean like this solar energy capture is just pointless?

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

200 watt hours a mile, that seems very, very low.

Because like usually it's like three miles per kilowatt hour.

Yeah.

Now, I'm saying if the TiloVieical is this efficient, so it's, you know, 70% more efficient

than, you know, Tycon.

That's great.

But still having the solar panels, if it needs 200, let's go with the conserve.

If it needs 200 watt hours to go a mile.

200, yeah.

And then the solar can generate 200 watts at peak sunlight, one to two watts per day,

one to two watt hours per day, sorry.

So that's still like not much percent of what it actually takes to move one mile, right?

Yeah.

Okay.

It might be enough to like run the climate control, you know, if you, if you parked it

in a hot place and went hiking, maybe it could run the climate control.

Yeah.

You know, to keep it at 100 degrees instead of 150 degrees in your car, you know, it's

a cool.

Look, I, I, I do dream sometimes about the day, like you can just drive any V out into

the woods, leave it for two weeks, go for a backpacking trip, come back, it's charged

the battery, you can drive on.

Like, and maybe we'll get there with energy density and like, I don't know, I mean, they

kind of have that now.

You just have to leave it plugged into a level one, like if you plug it into a 110, like that

will happen.

Right.

So, you know, you can have a, you can have a solar battery tender.

I mean, you can have a very small solar panel that will keep your cars 12 volt battery

alive, you know.

Yeah.

I want to charge the big battery, but it's a ways out.

Yeah, it's not.

Not anytime soon.

Thanks everybody.

We appreciate you listening to our little program here.

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Zach and I are going out on Monday to drive the Totem GT, which is going to be really

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