Driven Radio Show #328: Dave Kinney, Hagerty Price Guide Publisher
About this episode
Dave Kinney, publisher of the Hagerty Price Guide, joins the Driven Radio Show to discuss the current state of the classic car market. The conversation covers trends in car values, with insights into what’s hot and what’s not, including notable sales from Monterey Car Week. Kinney shares his expertise on appraisals, the impact of restoration costs, and the challenges of sourcing parts for vintage vehicles. The hosts also delve into personal car stories and the unique characters found at car auctions, making for an engaging and informative episode for automotive enthusiasts.
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1959 T-Bird
"[32.2s] You missed the T-Bird, didn't you? [35.0s] 1959 T-Bird that I was kind of hanging on, waiting on and stuff."
The 1959 Ford Thunderbird, nicknamed the T‑Bird, is a classic American car. It’s a two‑seat coupe that was popular for its sleek look and strong engine, making it a favorite among car lovers.
The 1959 Ford Thunderbird, often called the T‑Bird, was a two‑seat luxury coupe produced by Ford Motor Company in the United States. It featured a distinctive chrome grille, a powerful V8 engine, and was known for its stylish design and performance.
Callaway
"...87 Corvette Callaway twin turbo in really clean shape..."
Callaway is a company that takes classic Corvettes and makes them faster by adding special parts.
Callaway Cars is a specialty performance company that modifies Chevrolet Corvettes, adding high-performance engines, suspensions, and other upgrades.
twin turbo
"...87 Corvette Callaway twin turbo in really clean shape..."
It means the car has two small machines that push extra air into the engine, making it run faster and stronger.
A twin-turbo setup uses two turbochargers to force more air into the engine, increasing power and torque compared to a single-turbo system.
Chevrolet Corvette
"...a car that I was watching on bring a trailer 87 Corvette Callaway twin turbo in really clean shape..."
This is a classic American sports car from 1987 that has been upgraded by Callaway to use two turbochargers, making it much faster than the original version.
A 1987 Chevrolet Corvette that has been modified by Callaway to include a twin-turbocharged engine, significantly boosting its performance over the stock model.
1979 Chrysler Cordoba
"A 1979 Chrysler Cordoba."
The Cordoba is a classic American car from the 1970s. It’s known for its boxy shape and was sold by Chrysler, a major car maker in the U.S.
The 1979 Chrysler Cordoba is a mid-size sedan produced by Chrysler in the late 1970s. It featured a distinctive boxy design and was available with several engine options, including a 2.5L inline‑six.
Seat Cordoba
"... I'm kind of thinking it has AC. A 1979 Chrysler Cordoba. You and I, you know, a post show last week when..."
The Cordoba is a small, stylish car from Spain that was popular in the 80s. It’s easy to drive and looks good.
The Seat Cordoba is a compact executive car produced by the Spanish automaker SEAT from 1978 to 1990. It’s known for its sharp styling, efficient engines, and a reputation as a well‑built yet affordable vehicle.
Craiger's
"[503.5s] I've been saving such a Craigers, too. [506.4s] So I bet you have."
Craiger's makes custom wheels that people can put on cars to look cooler and sometimes drive better. They’re a brand many car fans know.
Craiger's is a well‑known aftermarket wheel manufacturer that produces lightweight, high‑performance rims for sports cars and performance vehicles. Their wheels are popular among enthusiasts who want a balance of strength, style, and reduced unsprung weight.
Dodge Custom
"[608.2s] Have a classic 1964 Dodge custom 880 with a tank full of oxide."
It’s a vintage Dodge from 1964, a big car with a V8 engine that was popular in the ’60s. It’s still around today for classic car lovers.
The 1964 Dodge Custom 880 was a full‑size, rear‑wheel drive car produced by Chrysler’s Dodge brand. It featured a 4.5‑liter V8 engine and was known for its roomy interior and classic ’60s styling.
roadside services
"You're going to need roadside services and you do."
If your car stops working or you’re stuck, roadside services can help get you back on the road by towing your car or fixing simple problems right there.
Emergency assistance provided to motorists when a vehicle breaks down or is involved in an incident, often including towing, jump‑starting, and on‑site repairs.
Chrysler New Yorker
"...er shows up on there, some either a Newport or a New Yorker and you could just set it and go and it will let..."
The New Yorker is a big, comfortable car from Chrysler that people used to drive in the past. It’s known for being roomy and easy to sit in.
The Chrysler New Yorker is a mid‑size luxury sedan that was produced from the 1950s to the early 1990s. It is known for its spacious interior, smooth ride, and distinctive styling cues.
Hot Rod Express
"And at Hot Rod Express, dreams come true. Call Hot Rod Express in Blue Springs, Missouri at 816-224-9597."
Hot Rod Express is a car shop that can change your car to look cooler or drive faster.
Hot Rod Express is a specialty automotive shop located in Blue Springs, Missouri that specializes in performance modifications and custom builds for classic cars.
50% off sales
"Nobody is, you know, having 50% off sales. Um, but the, you know, this trend that started a few years ago where the good"
Sometimes car dealers give a big discount, like half off the price, to make people buy cars faster.
A marketing tactic where a retailer offers a 50% discount on vehicle purchases to attract buyers.
Chrome restoration
"[1367.7s] And also fewer shops are doing Chrome. [1371.9s] You know, there's fewer suppliers who are doing Chrome restoration."
Chrome is the shiny metal trim on many old cars. Over time it can get dull or tarnish, so people clean and polish it to bring back its bright look.
Chrome restoration refers to the process of cleaning, repairing, and polishing chrome trim or body panels on classic cars to restore their original bright appearance.
headlight flasher
"[1383.9s] Do you remember when every single, um, you know, headlight flasher to go from low [1389.3s] beam to high beam with some rare exceptions, mostly for European cars was"
When you turn on a car’s headlights, the flasher helps switch between low and high beams or makes the lights flash for warnings.
A headlight flasher is an electrical component that controls the flashing of headlights, typically used for low‑beam to high‑beam switching or warning signals.
high beam switch
"[1412.5s] And I think I paid $22 or $26 for a high beam switch. [1417.1s] Yeah, for a high beam switch and, um, you know, high beam low beam switch, [1420.8s] but here's what happened."
It’s the little button or lever you push to make your car’s headlights shine brighter for better night visibility. When you press it, the lights switch from normal to a stronger beam.
The high beam switch is a component inside the vehicle’s electrical system that allows the driver to toggle the headlights between high‑beam (full brightness) and low‑beam (standard) modes. It typically sits on the steering column or dashboard and sends a signal to the headlight control module when activated.
tail light
"for seven years in a row, it was the same tail light for a Ford truck or a Chevy truck"
The tail light is the red light at the back of a car that turns on when you brake or signal, letting people behind know you're slowing down or turning.
A tail light is the rear-facing illumination on a vehicle that signals braking, turning, or stopping to drivers behind.
plastic chrome band
"Now every year they put a, you know, chrome band around, you know, a plastic chrome band"
This is a shiny plastic strip that goes around the edge of a car's light to make it look nicer.
A plastic chrome band is a decorative strip, often made of plastic with a chrome finish, that surrounds or accents vehicle lighting components.
generic parts
"And part of it is generic parts, but you have to nail right on the head."
Generic parts are replacement pieces that aren’t made by the car’s original maker but can still fit and work in many cars.
Generic parts are aftermarket components that are not brand-specific but designed to fit a range of vehicles, often cheaper than OEM parts.
Ferrari 308
"...and 80s, um, G body or G body nine, 11s and, uh, Ferrari 308, you know, I, I could deny the Magnum PI thing. ..."
The Ferrari 308 GTS is a small, fast Italian car that can be opened to let the wind in. It’s famous for being light and quick on the road.
The Ferrari 308 GTS is a mid‑engine, two‑seat sports car produced from 1975 to 1982, known for its lightweight construction and balanced handling. Its convertible version (GTS) adds a distinctive flair to the classic 308 platform.
G-body platform
"but also a child of the 70s and 80s, um, G body or G body nine, 11s"
The G‑body is a type of car frame that GM used for some muscle cars in the 70s and 80s, like the Camaro.
The G‑body was a chassis platform used by General Motors for cars like the Camaro and Firebird in the 1970s and 1980s.
belt service
"You can do the belt service without having to pull the engine out. You just pull the rear passenger side tire..."
It’s a routine check where mechanics look at the belts that help run parts of the car, and replace them if they’re worn.
Belt service involves inspecting and replacing the drive belts that power accessories like the alternator, water pump, and air conditioning compressor.
small block Chevy
"But a Corvette's a small block Chevy. You fix it with a hammer and a screwdriver..."
It’s a type of engine that many cars use because it’s powerful but not too big.
A small block Chevy refers to a family of V8 engines produced by Chevrolet, known for their compact size and high power output.
internet changed parts sourcing
"So, you know, and, and the funny thing is in during this time period as well, the internet, you know, had changed everything. I mean, if you had to look for parts for old cars, you had to go to swap me."
Thanks to the web, people can now buy hard-to-find car parts from online stores instead of hunting them in person.
The rise of the internet enabled enthusiasts to find rare car parts online, reducing reliance on physical swap meets.
windshield surround molding
"I mean, if you let's say there's a windshield surround molding that you and your buddy need..."
Windshield surround molding is a piece that goes around the edge of a car's front window, helping keep water out and giving the car a finished look.
Windshield surround molding is a trim piece that frames the edges of a vehicle's windshield, providing structural support and aesthetic detailing. It often incorporates rubber or plastic components to seal gaps and protect against weather.
parts car
"[1754.3s] So that argues for, you know, for finding a parts car or finding, you know, a used one..."
A 'parts car' is a used car that people buy mainly to take parts out of it, like the engine or wheels, because it's cheaper than buying a new part.
A 'parts car' is a used vehicle that is purchased primarily for its components rather than as a drivable car. Parts cars are often older or damaged models whose usable parts can be salvaged.
Porsche 911 Turbos
"...ar that's going up this 2007 to 2012, the Porsche 911 Turbos. I mean, they continue to go up against all odds..."
The 911 Turbo is a fast, fancy German sports car that can go very quickly and feels great to drive. It’s famous for having a powerful engine that makes it feel like a rocket on the road.
The Porsche 911 Turbo is a high‑performance variant of the iconic 911 sports car, renowned for its twin‑turbocharged flat‑six engine and rear‑wheel drive dynamics. It has become a benchmark for speed, handling, and luxury in the sports car segment.
Mercedes-Benz Cclass
"There's still the money and there's still the people who want to buy them. C-Class Mercedes, speaking of Mercedes 70, 90, 92. We've got the G-Wagons."
The C‑Class is a fancy German car that feels comfortable and safe. It’s smaller than the big Mercedes SUVs but still looks very upscale.
The Mercedes‑Benz C‑Class is a compact luxury sedan that balances performance, comfort, and advanced technology. It has been a staple in the Mercedes lineup since the 1990s and continues to evolve with modern safety features.
Mercedes-Benz Gclass
"We've got the G-Wagons. I'm sorry, G-Class. I said C-Class."
The G‑Wagon is a big, sturdy SUV that can handle rough terrain and looks very classic. It’s also considered a luxury vehicle because of its brand name.
The Mercedes‑Benz G‑Class, often called the G‑Wagon, is a rugged luxury SUV known for its boxy styling, off‑road prowess, and high resale value. Its enduring design has made it a status symbol across generations.
Ford Bronco
"...o long ago on a very, very nicely home done 1966 Bronco, Ford Bronco. And I'm looking at it and I'm arou..."
The Bronco is a small SUV that can go off the road and looks like an old‑school truck. It’s popular with people who like camping or hiking.
The Ford Bronco is a compact SUV that has been revived in 2020 after a long hiatus, featuring off‑road capability and retro styling reminiscent of the original 1966–1977 models. It appeals to adventure seekers who value ruggedness and modern technology.
Jeep
"[2063.1s] Makes it kind of like a Jeep, except a hell of a lot nicer."
Jeep makes cars that are good for rough terrain, like the Wrangler and Grand Cherokee.
Jeep is an American automotive brand known for its off‑road capable SUVs, originating from the WWII Willys MB truck.
Volkswagen engine
"there is an argument that having a Volkswagen engine in your Porsche will save you when it comes time to do the rebuild..."
Some Porsche 911 owners replace the original engine with a Volkswagen flat‑six engine. This can be cheaper to fix later because parts are easier to find.
Volkswagen engines, particularly the flat‑six units from the 1980s and 1990s, were sometimes swapped into Porsche 911s to reduce rebuild costs. These engines are known for their durability and easier access to parts.
leather gear shift boot
"pay $10,000 to have a leather gear shift boot and paint the sample wheel centers."
The gear shift boot is a cover around the shifter that keeps it clean. Some people buy fancy leather ones to make their car look nicer.
A gear shift boot is a protective cover that surrounds the shifter shaft, keeping dirt and debris out. Leather boots are premium aftermarket upgrades that add a touch of luxury and can be customized with paint or embroidery.
Ford Mustangs
"...h. Some other good news, though, is a 79 93 Ford Mustangs. Everybody loves Mustangs."
The Mustang is a fast American car that looks cool and has been around for many decades. People love it because it’s fun to drive and easy to recognize.
The Ford Mustang is an iconic American muscle car celebrated for its performance, distinctive design, and cultural impact since 1964. Classic models from the late '70s and early '90s are prized by collectors for their styling and engine options.
Dodge Power
"...culous to the stupid crazy ridiculous. How about Dodge power wagons from 45 to 68? You know, the car that sat..."
The Power Wagon is a big, strong truck that can go anywhere. It’s old and hard to find, so people who own one are special.
The Dodge Power Wagon is a heavy‑duty off‑road truck produced from 1945 to 1968, famed for its robust construction and capability in extreme terrain. It’s a rare collector’s item today due to its limited production.
Mercedes-Benz SL
"to me. But we're seeing some slippage in those cars, which is very, very surprisi..."
The SL is a fancy convertible from Mercedes that can close its roof like a car door. It’s known for being fast and comfortable.
The Mercedes‑Benz SL is a luxury roadster known for its retractable hardtop and high‑performance engines. It has been produced in various generations, each offering a blend of comfort and sportiness.
Porsche 300 SL
"I'm not expecting that to happen to 300 SLs, particularly."
Porsche is a German car brand. The 300 SL was made in the 1950s and is considered one of the coolest classic sports cars ever.
The Porsche 300 SL is a legendary sports car from the 1950s, famous for its sleek gullwing doors and high performance.
Bentley Rtype Bentley
"kind of oversaturated for a while. And I think that's part of it. But if I had the money, I would definitely, you know, buy on the dip on the 53 to 55 R-Type Bentley. You know, keep in mind, it is a performance car, but it's a performance car from your granddad's era. You know, this car is"
The R‑Type Continental is a very fancy British car from the 1950s that can go fast and looks like a classic luxury vehicle. It’s rare and valuable.
The Bentley R‑Type Continental is a luxury grand tourer produced from 1953 to 1955, featuring a powerful inline‑six engine and elegant styling. It’s highly prized by collectors for its rarity and classic British craftsmanship.
Chevrolet Bel Air
"...day. Speaking of cars from the fifties, 58 Chevy Bel Air and Pala, we're seeing some softness in those. I..."
The Bel Air is a big, old American car that looks like it belongs in a movie. It has shiny chrome and is loved by people who enjoy classic cars.
The Chevrolet Bel Air is a classic full‑size car from the 1950s, celebrated for its chrome accents and smooth ride. It remains a favorite among collectors due to its iconic styling and historical significance.
Ford Galaxies
"... slippage in that, but not crazy surprise. 60 64 Ford galaxies, another one, not, you know, not a big down, but ..."
The Galaxie 500 is a big, comfortable car from Ford that people liked in the 60s. It has a strong engine and plenty of space inside.
The Ford Galaxie 500 is a full‑size sedan produced from 1964 to 1972, known for its spacious interior and powerful V8 options. It remains a classic example of American muscle‑style luxury from the 1960s.
Dodge Charger
"... going through the pages here. And 66 to 67 Dodge Charger, I think we were just talking about, you know, C..."
The Charger is a big, strong car that can be very fast. It looks like a muscle car from the 1960s and many people want to own one.
The Dodge Charger is a full‑size American sedan known for its powerful V8 options and aggressive styling. The 1966–1967 models are especially sought after for their classic muscle car aesthetics.
Cadillac Xlr
"... surprise is a little bit of surprise. 2004, 2009 Cadillac XLR. Really? Yeah. And I think, well, I really don't..."
The XLR is a fancy Cadillac convertible that can close its roof like a car door. It’s fast and comfortable, making it popular with people who love luxury cars.
The Cadillac XLR is a luxury roadster produced from 2004 to 2010, featuring a retractable hardtop and powerful V8 engines. It blends classic American luxury with modern performance, appealing to collectors of high‑end convertibles.
car auction
"I think there just is auctions. I mean, you really have to go to a car auction to understand a little bit more about the car world."
A car auction is a place where people sell cars to whoever offers the most money. It’s like a big sale where lots of cars are up for grabs.
A car auction is an event where vehicles are sold to the highest bidder, often used by dealers and private sellers to quickly move inventory.
Mercury Mountaineer
"...n this show. Uh-huh. Daryl is working on Mercury Mountaineer. Yeah. Classic Corvettes. Oh, yeah. Nissan Xterr..."
The Mountaineer is a big, comfortable car from Mercury that people liked in the 70s and 80s. It feels smooth when you drive it.
The Mercury Mountaineer is a mid‑size luxury sedan produced from 1975 to 1989, offering a comfortable ride and upscale features for its era. It’s appreciated by collectors for its distinctive styling and quiet cabin.
Nissan XTerra
"...ineer. Yeah. Classic Corvettes. Oh, yeah. Nissan Xterra. Mine. Unusual Mercedes. Yours. And a 64 Dodge Cu..."
The Xterra is a tough SUV that can go off the road. It’s built to carry people and gear for camping or hiking.
The Nissan Xterra is a rugged SUV introduced in the early 2000s, designed for off‑road adventures with a boxy shape and high ground clearance. It appeals to outdoor enthusiasts who need durability and practicality.
Ossipic Automotive
"Ossipic Automotive. That's OSI, PIK, Automotive, 5920 Merriam Drive in Merriam, Kansas called Daryl at 913-831-3613."
Ossipic Automotive is a car repair shop that promises honest work and guarantees it will last at least one month or 1000 miles. They have certified mechanics who can fix a variety of car problems.
Ossipic Automotive is a local auto repair shop that offers transparent pricing, guarantees on work, and ASE‑certified mechanics to provide reliable service.
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