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EDMUNDS SHOCKS The Auto Industry (SCARY NEW DATA!) | Episode 1114

EDMUNDS SHOCKS The Auto Industry (SCARY NEW DATA!) | Episode 1114

CarEdge Live Jul 22, 2026 29 min
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Today on CarEdge Live, Ray and Zach discuss the latest news from Edmunds. Tune in to learn more! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Technical Too Afraid to Ask
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negative equity

"the negative equity that Chevy Silverado owners are bringing to the table [329.9s] when they try to trade that vehicle in is $8,516. [336.5s] $8,516 that they owe more on their car than what it is worth."

Negative equity means your car is worth less than what you still owe on your loan. So when you try to trade it in, you may still have to pay the difference.

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trade-in

"when they try to trade that vehicle in is $8,516. [336.5s] $8,516 that they owe more on their car than what it is worth. [343.9s] Now, what do you do with that negative equity if you're trying to purchase another car?"

A trade-in is when you turn in your old car to help pay for a new one. If you still owe more than it’s worth, that gap can get added to the new loan.

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Chevrolet

"Coinsides with the show yesterday, Chevy is crushing sales but at the cost of the customer. [385.6s] One of the things Chevy's doing right now, and we're going to talk about Chevy, [388.7s] but I actually have an even better story with Ford, but one of the things Chevy's doing right now"

Chevrolet is the company making the Silverado. They’re mentioned here because their financing deals may make it easier for people to buy again even if they’re already in debt on their current truck.

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Ford

"One of the things Chevy's doing right now, and we're going to talk about Chevy, [388.7s] but I actually have an even better story with Ford, but one of the things Chevy's doing right now [392.2s] is they're offering 0% financing for 60 months with 90 days, three months of deferred payments."

Ford is brought up as a comparison to Chevrolet. The hosts suggest Ford may also be using financing/approval tactics that can help people buy again even when they’re underwater.

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0% financing

"is they're offering 0% financing for 60 months with 90 days, three months of deferred payments. [400.5s] So essentially a 63-month 0% financing auto loan on new Silverados."

0% financing means the loan has no interest charge. The catch is that it doesn’t automatically fix the problem if you already owe more than the car is worth.

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deferred payments

"0% financing for 60 months with 90 days, three months of deferred payments. [400.5s] So essentially a 63-month 0% financing auto loan on new Silverados."

Deferred payments mean you don’t start paying right away. The money you owe isn’t gone—it’s just delayed.

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Chevy Silverado 1500

"for example, the average negative equity [418.0s] Hey, Chevy customer who bought back in 2022, at the end of 2022, one of these Silverado 1500s, [425.3s] well, you're now $8,500 upside down, don't you worry."

This is Chevrolet’s big pickup truck. The hosts are talking about a problem where the truck is worth less than what the owner still owes on the loan, so trading it in can leave you owing even more.

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upside down

"one of these Silverado 1500s, [425.3s] well, you're now $8,500 upside down, don't you worry. [429.1s] We can get you approved for 0% financing for 63 months, just roll over that negative equity"

“Upside down” is just another way to say negative equity. It means you owe more money than the car is worth right now.

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Ford F150

"amount on an F-150 is $8,400. We do know that Ford has made it easier for customers to get access to these sub-vented, the lower interest rates."

The Ford F-150 is a popular pickup truck. In this segment, it’s mentioned to illustrate how car financing deals can still leave buyers owing too much later, especially if the loan is long and the car loses value.

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subvented

"We do know that Ford has made it easier for customers to get access to these sub-vented, the lower interest rates. Dylan hit the nail on the head."

“Sub-vented” here means the interest rate is being reduced through a special financing program. It can make the monthly payment seem better, but it doesn’t automatically prevent buyers from getting stuck with a loan that’s hard to escape.

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loan terms

"anytime you start extending loan terms and we know from data that loan terms today of 72 months or 84 months and longer are a highest, at the highest percentage they've ever been of loans"

A loan term is how long you have to pay back your car loan. A longer term can make the monthly payment smaller, but it can also cost more overall and can make it harder to get out of the loan later.

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loan-to-value ratios

"That's where the loan-to-value ratios become so important in all of this and that's another story that coincides with negative equity. For example, typical loan-to-value ratios would be you're buying a $10,000 car, the bank will lend you $10,000."

Loan-to-value ratio is a way to measure how much you’re borrowing compared to what the car is worth. If the ratio is high, you’re more likely to owe more than the car is worth later, especially if the car’s value drops.

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collateralized

"is collateralized by the vehicle. Makes sense. You buy a $10,000 vehicle, but they... Okay, it seems as if it's fully collateralized."

Collateralized means the bank is counting on the car’s value to protect the loan. If the car is worth less than what you owe, the bank has less protection.

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Toyota Camry

"The two stories are side by side. Let's pull back up on the chart, however, Dad, because this data is fascinating. For example, Toyota Camry owners on average $7,030 upside down after they bought this thing in 2023."

The Toyota Camry is a popular, dependable family sedan. Even though it usually holds its value pretty well, this episode explains how paying big dealer markups can still put buyers in a bad loan position.

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dealer markups

"Because they were paying $1,500, $2,000, $3,000 of additional dealer markup. They find themselves with a vehicle that depreciates typically less than most vehicles, but yet they are still significantly upside down, $7,000 upside down..."

Dealer markups are added fees dealers charge above the normal price. If you pay more than the car is really worth, the car can lose value later and you may end up owing more than it’s worth.

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Toyota RAV4

"This particular dealership, Al Hendricks in Toyota, it says buyer of aware. That's incredibly provocative, but it's provocative because, yeah, let's say you're in a market for this RAV4."

A Toyota RAV4 is a popular SUV that many people buy with a loan. If a dealer adds expensive extras and you finance those too, you can end up owing more than the car is worth.

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Dodge Ram

"...scribing. Next on the list, this one makes sense, Ram 1500, $8,347 in negative equity when you go in as..."

The Ram 1500 is a large pickup truck. The podcast mentions it because some owners owe a lot more on their loan than the truck is worth right now. That’s negative equity.

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Ram 1500

"Next on the list, this one makes sense, Ram 1500, $8,347 in negative equity when you go in as a Ram 1500 owner to trade in that vehicle"

The Ram 1500 is a full-size pickup truck. The hosts are saying that many buyers of this truck end up owing more than the truck is worth, which makes trading it in later costly.

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Nissan Rogue

"Next on the list, this one makes sense, Ram 1500, $8,347 in negative equity when you go in as a Ram 1500 owner to trade in that vehicle Nissan Rogue on average, $7,260."

The Nissan Rogue is a smaller SUV/crossover. In this discussion it’s mentioned as the vehicle people are trading in (or comparing against) when talking about how much negative equity shows up in deals.

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Honda Crv

"Then look at this, what an anomaly on this list, the Honda CR-V. $4,722 upside down. I cannot believe I'm saying the anomaly in a positive way here is only being upside down $5,000"

The Honda CR-V is a popular compact SUV. The hosts are saying CR-V owners are “less upside down” than many truck owners, meaning the gap between what they owe and what the car is worth is smaller.

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market adjustment

"$5,000 worth of negative equity because you probably paid a market adjustment to buy that vehicle. Again, we're trying to help you avoid dealers who are playing those types of games."

A market adjustment is an extra charge dealers add on top of the normal price because the car is in high demand. Paying it can make it harder to get your money back if you sell or trade the car later.

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Chevy Equinox

"That's why we are using $7793 Chevy Equinox 5668 Honda Accord $5,000 Toyota Corolla $6,000. There's the Sierra 1500 dead."

The Chevy Equinox is the example car in this segment. They’re using it to show that some people owe more on their loan than the car is worth when they try to trade it in.

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Honda Accord

"are using $7793 Chevy Equinox 5668 Honda Accord $5,000 Toyota Corolla $6,000. There's the Sierra 1500 dead. Like you said, another full-size pickup truck, $8,568 on average upside down the Civic"

The Honda Accord is another example car they’re using. The point is that even popular cars can leave you owing more than the car is worth when you go to trade it in.

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Toyota Corolla

"$7793 Chevy Equinox 5668 Honda Accord $5,000 Toyota Corolla $6,000. There's the Sierra 1500 dead."

The Toyota Corolla is included as an example of a common, affordable car. They’re showing that even cars like this can end up with you owing more than the car is worth.

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GMC Sierra 1500

"There's the Sierra 1500 dead. Like you said, another full-size pickup truck, $8,568 on average upside down the Civic"

The GMC Sierra 1500 is the pickup example here. They’re pointing out that even full-size trucks can be worth less than what people owe on their loans.

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Honda Civic

"1500 dead. Like you said, another full-size pickup truck, $8,568 on average upside down the Civic only $4,700. The Ford Explorer almost $7,700."

The Honda Civic is another example car in their comparison. They’re using it to show that the “owe more than it’s worth” problem can vary by model.

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Ford Explorer

"only $4,700. The Ford Explorer almost $7,700. The RAV4, this is shocking that you could buy a RAV4 in 2022 middle of the year and it would be upside down relative to your auto loan by $6,815 right now"

The Ford Explorer is one of the SUVs they’re comparing. They’re using it to illustrate that some people owe a lot more than their car is worth when they go to trade in.

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CarMax

"Trading in your vehicle is not the only way to sell your car. Please, please, please, consider, get offers from Carvanic, CarMax. Make dealers compete to buy your trade in."

CarMax is a company that buys used cars from people. The idea here is to get an offer from them so dealers have to compete and you don’t get lowballed.

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Carvanic

"consider, get offers from Carvanic, CarMax. Make dealers compete to buy your trade in. A lot of this data, Dad, says to me, people are not necessarily maximizing the value of the car"

Carvanic is mentioned as a company you can get a quote from. The point is to compare offers so you don’t get a bad deal from a dealership.

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low ball

"You need to maximize the value of your trade in. You need to realize they're going to low ball you on the value of the trade."

To “lowball” you means to offer you a price that’s too low. The hosts are saying dealers may do this on your trade-in so they can make more money overall.

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Hyundai Tucson

"It's just being an informed shopper. We've got here, Dad, the Hyundai Tucson $5,500 upside down on average, the Jeep Wrangler $7,800 upside down, and then here's our winner."

The Hyundai Tucson is another example car they’re using. They’re showing that people can still owe more than the car is worth even on common crossovers.

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Jeep Wrangler

"the Hyundai Tucson $5,500 upside down on average, the Jeep Wrangler $7,800 upside down, and then here's our winner."

The Jeep Wrangler is another example they’re using. The point is that even popular cars can end up with negative equity when you try to trade them in.

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informed shopper

"Yeah, 100%. It's just being an informed shopper. We've got here, Dad, the Hyundai Tucson $5,500 upside down on average, the Jeep Wrangler $7,800 upside down, and then here's our winner."

An “informed shopper” is someone who doesn’t just accept the first offer. Here it means you compare prices and trade-in offers so you can avoid getting taken advantage of.

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Toyota Tundra

"...hicle at a dealership in Q2 of 2026 is the Toyota Tundra, almost $9,000 upside down on their auto loan. Ag..."

The Toyota Tundra is a large pickup truck used for work and towing. The podcast brings it up because some owners owe more on their loans than the truck is worth. That’s what “upside down” means in this context.

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auto loan

"almost $9,000 upside down on their auto loan... Buyers rolling negative equity to the new loan are projected to pay an average of $16,270 in interest over the life of that loan."

An auto loan is the financing used to pay for a vehicle, typically repaid with monthly payments plus interest. In this segment, the hosts focus on how negative equity gets added to the next auto loan, which increases monthly payments and total interest over the life of the loan.

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Kia Sportage

"...und $6,800. That is just shocking to see here Kia Sportage at $5,500, Traverse at $6,900, Grand Cherokee, no..."

The Kia Sportage is a compact SUV for everyday driving. The podcast mentions it because some people who financed one owe more than the SUV is worth today. That’s negative equity.

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Jeep Grand Cherokee

"... here Kia Sportage at $5,500, Traverse at $6,900, Grand Cherokee, not a surprise at $7,300. What do you make of th..."

The Jeep Grand Cherokee is an SUV meant for regular driving, with some versions able to handle rougher roads. The episode mentions it because some people who financed one are still paying off more than the SUV is worth today. That situation is called negative equity.

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trade values

"I think that's probably impacted trade values for the Tundra. Those folks who bought those are sitting on the highest level of negative equity of any group of buyers..."

Trade values are what a dealership offers for your current vehicle when you trade it in. In this segment, the hosts argue that issues and weaker sales for the Toyota Tundra can reduce trade values, which increases the chance of negative equity at the next purchase.

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monthly payments

"Climbing negative equity is leading to record average monthly payments and interest costs... your new vehicle auto loan is $944 a month."

Monthly payments are the recurring amount you pay each month to repay an auto loan. The segment emphasizes that climbing negative equity leads to record-high monthly payments, because the loan amount (and interest) is larger when the trade-in shortfall is rolled over.

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interest costs

"Climbing negative equity is leading to record average monthly payments and interest costs... projected to pay an average of $16,270 in interest over the life of that loan."

Interest costs are the extra money you pay to borrow funds on top of the vehicle’s price. This segment highlights that when negative equity is rolled into a new auto loan, buyers can end up paying unusually high total interest over the loan’s lifetime.

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2027 Q7

"with how the new 2027 Q7 sells, that it won't sell anywhere near what they were hoping that [1444.1s] they would sell volume-wise and that $8,900 price increase will be the first thing people [1451.9s] will look at."

This is the Audi Q7 SUV, and the episode is talking about the 2027 version’s price jump. They explain that a higher sticker price usually means a higher monthly payment when you finance the car.

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car payment

"$8,900, $9,000 at $20 for every thousand finance. That's $180 right there extra [1464.7s] in your car payment that you're, I mean, hey, if you can afford that $72,000 Q7 and that's the [1473.8s] base one."

A car payment is what you pay each month to finance or lease a car. The hosts are showing how higher prices and trade-in shortfalls can make that monthly number jump.

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finance

"$8,900, $9,000 at $20 for every thousand finance. That's $180 right there extra [1464.7s] in your car payment"

Here, “finance” means taking out a loan to buy the car. They’re using a quick estimate to show how borrowing more money usually increases your monthly payment.

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2027 VW Atlas

"It's not just the Audi. DoS built 2027 VW Atlas pricing climbs with redesign. This one's [1509.4s] not nearly as much. Whoops, where'd it go here? $2,350 up year over year, starting at $43,135."

The VW Atlas is a big family SUV with three rows. Here they’re saying the 2027 model costs more than the previous year, and that higher price can raise your monthly payment too.

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MSRP

"Well, think about this for a second on the Audi Q7. We just established that extra $9,000 in MSRP [1563.0s] translates into about $180 a month in car payment."

MSRP is the official sticker price the manufacturer lists for the car. If MSRP goes up, the financed amount usually goes up too, which can increase your monthly payment.

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