Fixed Ops Friday w/Jim Sabino, and Chris McPhillips | Daily Dealer Live
About this episode
Record fixed-ops revenue is up, but service share is slipping—especially to independents—so the show focuses on how dealers defend retention in 2026. Jim Sabino (All American Ford) argues mobile service and pickup/delivery are core retention tools, while also tackling the tech shortage through trade-school pipelines, career paths, and proper pay. Chris McPhillips (Nissan/Hyundai/Genesis of Cool Springs) highlights service menus, daily advisor reporting, and video MPI engagement. The debate: why videos get created but not viewed, and how to improve advisor processes and customer education.
fixed ops
"the 17th of April. It's tax week. Cox Auto Inc. They just dropped the number. Dealers are pulling a record 9.23 million bucks per rooftop in fixed ops."
“Fixed ops” means the service and parts department at a car dealership. It’s the part that makes money from repairs and maintenance, not from selling cars.
“Fixed ops” is dealership shorthand for the service and parts side of the business (not sales). It’s where recurring revenue comes from through maintenance, repairs, and accessories, so service share is a key metric for dealer profitability.
service share
"We've lost four points of service share to Independence and Mobile since 2018. Four points, that's value."
Service share is the portion of local vehicle service work a dealership captures compared to competitors. When the hosts say they “lost four points of service share,” they mean customers are choosing other providers for maintenance and repairs.
Hyundai Genesis
"...hillips, fixed ops director at Nissan Hyundai and Genesis of Cool Springs, Tennessee. Three brands, one ro..."
Genesis is a luxury car brand connected to Hyundai. The vehicles are designed to be more upscale and comfortable than regular Hyundai models. It may be mentioned in dealership talk because it’s one of the brands a store sells.
Genesis is Hyundai’s luxury brand, and “Hyundai Genesis” typically refers to Genesis vehicles sold through Hyundai-affiliated dealerships. It’s discussed because it represents Hyundai’s move into higher-end cars with more upscale features and a separate brand identity. In dealership settings, it often comes up when talking about how stores manage multiple brands and customer expectations.
84 month loans
"JD Powers is flagging a structural concern building beneath the surface of the new vehicle market. Check this out. 84 month loans, they now account for 13% of new vehicle financing, 13%."
An 84-month loan is a car loan you pay over seven years. It can make the payment look smaller, but you usually pay more overall and you may still owe a lot if you trade early.
An “84 month loan” is an auto loan stretched to seven years. Longer terms lower the monthly payment but increase total interest paid and can create negative equity risk when buyers trade before the loan is paid off.
72 month loans
"And get this, 72 month loans make up over 40% of financed purchases. Even with those extended terms, average monthly payments have climbed to $806..."
A 72-month loan is a car loan paid over six years. Longer loans can keep payments manageable, but they also mean you may still owe money when you want to switch cars.
A “72 month loan” is a six-year auto loan. The segment highlights that these longer terms make up a large share of financed purchases, which can affect dealer trade cycles and how much balance carries into the next deal.
unpaid balances keep rolling into the next deal
"The issue is most buyers trade within three to five years, well before a six or seven year loan pays off, meaning unpaid balances keep rolling into the next deal. JD Powers put it this way in"
If you trade in early, you might still owe a lot on your current car. That remaining amount can get added to the cost of your next car, making the next deal harder to afford.
This describes how many buyers trade in the first few years—before a long loan is paid off—so the remaining loan balance carries into the next vehicle purchase. That can pressure affordability and contribute to a cycle of higher debt on newer transactions.
incentive spend
"...the buildup of longterm loans growing negative equity and rising incentive spend could eventually create a day of reckoning."
Incentive spend is the money automakers allocate to discounts, rebates, and financing offers to move inventory. Higher incentive spending can support sales in the short term, but it can also signal weaker demand and contribute to a cycle that affects used prices and trade-in values.
negative equity
"...the buildup of longterm loans growing negative equity and rising incentive spend could eventually create a day of reckoning."
Negative equity means you owe more money than the car is worth. If you trade it in, that extra amount often gets added to your next loan, which can raise your monthly payment.
Negative equity is when you owe more on your current loan than the vehicle is worth. In a rising-rate or price-uncertain market, rolling that gap into a new loan can keep payments high and make it harder for buyers to get out of bad deals.
84, 72 months
"Astonishing to me personally as an aside, 84, 72 months, not a huge favor to the consumer."
Those numbers are how long the car loan lasts. Longer loans can make the payment look smaller, but you usually pay more interest overall and you can get stuck owing more than the car is worth.
“84 months” and “72 months” refer to very long auto-loan terms. Longer terms can lower the monthly payment on paper, but they increase total interest paid and can worsen negative equity risk if the vehicle’s value drops faster than the loan balance falls.
used vehicle prices have jumped $1,500
"Back into the news, also from this week, used vehicle prices have jumped $1,500, which is another pressure point on payments since mid-March."
They’re saying used cars got more expensive by about $1,500. If the car costs more, the monthly payment usually goes up too, even if you’re financing.
This segment highlights how used-car price inflation directly affects affordability and monthly payments. When used prices rise, lenders and buyers have less room to negotiate, and the “payment pressure” can increase even if interest rates don’t change.
Carfax 7-day median data
"...that follows a $450 increase in February and comes off prices hitting their lowest point of the past year in January. SUVs and luxury SUVs continue to lead the climb and EV prices have jumped $560 in the past month as gas prices push more shoppers towards electrified options. The inventory picture behind the price move is familiar."
That’s a pricing-trend statistic from Carfax. “Median” is the middle value, and “7-day” means it’s looking at what’s happening recently.
“Carfax 7-day median data” refers to a short-window statistical measure used to track pricing trends. A median helps reduce the impact of outliers, and using a 7-day window emphasizes near-term movement rather than long-term averages.
inventory picture behind the price move
"The inventory picture behind the price move is familiar. Continued supply tightness from the COVID era, fewer low mileage CPO vehicles entering the market and more buyers gravitating towards used as new vehicle prices stay elevated."
This phrase points to the supply-demand mechanics behind price changes—specifically how tight inventory can push prices higher. When supply is constrained (fewer CPO units, fewer low-mileage trades), buyers compete more for the same cars, raising transaction prices.
CPO vehicles
"Continued supply tightness from the COVID era, fewer low mileage CPO vehicles entering the market and more buyers gravitating towards used as new vehicle prices stay elevated."
CPO means “certified pre-owned.” It’s a used car that a dealer checks and usually backs with extra warranty coverage. If fewer CPO cars show up, used prices tend to go up.
CPO stands for Certified Pre-Owned. CPO programs typically require inspections and add warranty coverage, which makes these cars more attractive to buyers—so if fewer CPO units enter the market, overall used supply tightens and prices rise.
service line trades, auctions and online channels
"And for dealers that make sourcing discipline the priority. Service line trades, auctions and online channels all matter more today in a market where acquisition competition is super tight."
These are common used-vehicle sourcing routes for dealers. “Service line trades” are vehicles taken in from customers coming through the service department, while auctions and online channels expand inventory options—especially when acquisition competition is tight.
Stellantis
"Moving to an update on the OEM side, Stellantis reported a 12% increase in global shipments in Q1 with North America up 17%."
Stellantis is a big car company that owns brands like Jeep and Ram. They’re reporting how many cars they shipped, which helps explain what’s available to dealers.
Stellantis is the multinational automaker formed from the merger of Fiat Chrysler Automobiles (FCA) and PSA Group. The segment uses Stellantis’ shipment numbers to illustrate how OEM production and model mix can affect dealer inventory and the broader market cycle.
global shipments in Q1
"Moving to an update on the OEM side, Stellantis reported a 12% increase in global shipments in Q1 with North America up 17%."
“Q1” means the first three months of the year. “Shipments” are how many cars the company sends out, which isn’t always the same as how many customers bought.
“Global shipments in Q1” is a production/distribution metric reported by automakers for the first quarter of the year. Shipments can differ from sales because they track vehicles sent to dealers/markets rather than final retail deliveries.
Hemi V8
"The gains were driven by the Hemi V8-powered Ram light duty truck, the Rafet Rest Jeep Grand Wagoneer and the new Jeep Cherokee."
A “Hemi V8” is a type of V8 engine design. It’s known for making strong power and it’s a common selling point on certain Mopar/Chrysler-era trucks and cars.
“Hemi V8” refers to Chrysler’s hemispherical combustion-chamber engine design used on certain V8s. In marketing and enthusiast circles, “Hemi” often signals a performance-oriented engine family and can influence buyer perception and trim selection.
Jeep Grand Wagoneer
"The gains were driven by the Hemi V8-powered Ram light duty truck, the Rafet Rest Jeep Grand Wagoneer and the new Jeep Cherokee."
The Jeep Grand Wagoneer is Jeep’s big, upscale SUV. When it’s mentioned as a driver of sales, it usually means buyers are spending more for a more luxurious version.
The Jeep Grand Wagoneer is a full-size luxury SUV positioned above many other Jeep models. Mentioning it in shipment growth signals demand for higher-trim, higher-margin luxury SUVs within Stellantis’ lineup.
Jeep Grand
"...the Rafet Rest Jeep Grand Wagoneer and the new Jeep Cherokee. The company is also making a notable leadership move..."
The Jeep Cherokee is one of Jeep’s more common SUV models. They’re saying it helped Stellantis sell more vehicles overall.
The Jeep Cherokee is a mainstream compact/midsize SUV line for Jeep. The segment frames it as part of Stellantis’ OEM shipment growth, suggesting continued demand across both mainstream and luxury nameplates.
auto loan interest tax deduction
"And finally, today the auto loan interest in interest tax deduction, remember that much-taunted by Trump, the dealers, we dealers"
They’re mentioning a tax rule that could make the interest on an auto loan less costly. If it exists or changes, it can affect how attractive financing a car feels to buyers.
The segment references the “auto loan interest tax deduction,” which is a policy idea that can affect consumer demand by changing the after-tax cost of borrowing. If such a deduction is available or expanded, it can slightly improve affordability and influence how buyers shop for financing.
deduct up to $10,000 in annual loan interest
"The measure allows buyers to deduct up to $10,000 in annual loan interest on U.S. assembled vehicles purchased after December 31st, 2024, but income limits and assembly requirements are narrowing the pool significantly."
This refers to a tax incentive that lets eligible buyers deduct up to $10,000 of annual interest on certain auto loans. It’s aimed at boosting demand, but eligibility rules (like income limits and assembly requirements) can significantly reduce how many buyers can actually use it.
U.S. assembled vehicles purchased after December 31st, 2024
"The measure allows buyers to deduct up to $10,000 in annual loan interest on U.S. assembled vehicles purchased after December 31st, 2024, but income limits and assembly requirements are narrowing the pool significantly."
The incentive only applies to cars that are built in the U.S. and bought after a certain date. If you’re not sure whether your exact car qualifies, you may miss the benefit.
This describes the eligibility window and geographic/production requirement for the incentive—vehicles must be U.S.-assembled and purchased after a specific date. These kinds of cutoffs often create confusion at the dealership level because buyers may not know whether a specific VIN qualifies.
made in America requirement
"Only about 6 million vehicles qualified under the IRS criteria. Analysts say confusion around the made in America requirement is likely a factor in the low uptake."
Some tax breaks only apply if the car meets rules about where it’s built. If you don’t know those rules, it’s easy to assume your car qualifies when it doesn’t.
The “made in America” requirement is a policy condition that determines whether a vehicle qualifies for certain tax incentives. In practice, it can be confusing because it depends on where key parts and/or final assembly occur, which narrows eligibility.
All-American Ford
"Let's dive into our first guest and a repeat return to Daily Deal Life, Fixed Ops Friday. Jim Sabino, All-American Ford, Hack and Sack and Paramus, New Jersey. Jim, welcome to the show."
All-American Ford is the dealership where the guest works. It’s mentioned so you know whose perspective you’re hearing about in the service business.
All-American Ford is the dealership group Jim Sabino represents in the episode. For listeners, it’s a real-world example of how fixed-ops performance and service metrics (like repair orders) are discussed by working dealership operators.
RO count is up
"Jim, welcome to the show. Hey, Sam. Thanks for having me. It's great to be with you again. [467.2s] It's good to have you back. Hey, for those that don't know you, tell about yourself and your stores. [471.7s] How's business this April of 26? Business is great. It's very strong. RO count is up,"
In a service shop, an “RO” is basically a ticket that says what work needs to be done. If RO count is up, it usually means the shop is getting more jobs.
“RO count” typically refers to the number of repair orders (work orders) in a service department. When RO count rises, it usually signals more customer work being performed, which can improve fixed-ops profitability through labor sales and related parts usage.
remote mobile pickup delivery
"You're betting on remote as many Ford dealers are. When did you know that that mobile and pickup delivery remote had to be the core, not a pilot program for you?"
They’re talking about a service setup where the dealership comes to you (or picks up your car) and brings it back after service. The goal is to make it easier so customers are less likely to switch to someone else.
The hosts are describing a “remote” service model where customers can arrange pickup and delivery, and/or service is performed via mobile units. In dealership terms, this is meant to reduce friction—customers don’t have to travel to the shop—so retention improves.
mobile service
"Well, it's a core because it's such a retention tool part of it. So the retention, we're losing customers for many reasons. So let's do everything we can to make it easy, convenient to do, continue to do business with us… by doing that gives us a huge advantage to make it convenient, keeps their retention…"
“Mobile service” is the idea of delivering maintenance/repair to customers at their location using mobile units (often vans/trucks). The discussion frames it as a retention tool: making service convenient increases the chance customers keep using the same dealership.
retention tool
"Well, it's a core because it's such a retention tool part of it. So the retention, we're losing customers for many reasons."
A retention tool is anything that helps keep customers coming back. In this case, making service easier (like coming to you) helps customers stay with the same dealership.
A “retention tool” is something designed to keep customers from switching to another provider. Here, mobile service and pickup/delivery are positioned as reducing inconvenience, which helps prevent customers from defecting to independents or other local shops.
defect to an independent
"So let's do everything we can to make it easy, convenient to do, continue to do business with us and not defect to an independent or another, a private local guy…"
This means customers stop using the dealership and go to a non-dealer repair shop instead. They’re saying convenience is how dealers try to prevent that switch.
“Defect to an independent” refers to customers leaving a franchised dealer for an independent local shop. The transcript frames convenience (mobile service) as the strategy to reduce that churn and protect dealer market share.
Ford Motor Company
"Something at this scale at Ford Motor Company is a tremendous tremendous push behind that and the success of the dealerships. They're behind it."
They mention Ford as the company behind the effort. In plain terms, Ford is supporting the dealerships so they can offer services like mobile service more broadly.
The transcript references Ford Motor Company as the manufacturer backing a large-scale push for mobile service and dealership support. This matters because OEM involvement can shape how dealers invest in equipment (like service vans) and how programs are marketed.
manufacturer independently surveys customers
"So the Motor Company manufacturer independently surveys customers for the shop and for the mobile truck. Mobile truckers always hire on those surveys…"
They’re talking about official customer surveys done by the car maker. The surveys compare how people feel about the normal service visit versus the mobile service experience.
The hosts discuss OEM customer satisfaction surveys that measure the experience “for the shop and for the mobile truck.” These surveys are used to quantify convenience and service quality, and they can influence program decisions and dealership performance.
repeat and referral starts kicking in
"So then what happens is that a repeat and referral starts kicking in. So I love this. I cannot get this again. They call,"
The hosts describe a customer lifecycle effect: once customers try mobile service for the first time, repeat visits and referrals increase. This is a common growth model in service businesses—first experience drives trust, which then drives word-of-mouth.
KSHers
"...we have all of our BDC and KSHers trained that if an incoming appointment comes in, that's a mobile-friendly appointment, we offer that first before the in-shop appointment is made."
“KSHers” sounds like a specific internal job title or team name at the dealership. In this segment, they’re involved in routing appointments—especially deciding when a customer should be offered mobile service. The exact role isn’t spelled out here.
KSHers appears to be an internal dealership role acronym used alongside BDC in the transcript. The context suggests they’re part of the scheduling/appointment-routing process for mobile-friendly service. Because the acronym isn’t defined in the excerpt, the exact meaning is uncertain.
brick-and-mortar expansion
"...it's an expansion of their mobile base... without the traditional brick-and-mortar expansion. So this gives you a really good advantage because it's much cheaper to do mobile expansion than it is brick-and-mortar with actual real estate and buildings."
Brick-and-mortar expansion refers to adding physical dealership/service facilities—more buildings, bays, and real estate—to increase capacity. The hosts contrast this with mobile service expansion, arguing that mobile growth can be cheaper and faster than building new shop space. This is a business operations concept tied to how service throughput scales.
auto industry tech shortage
"...NADA says the auto industry is short about 37,000 techs a year... Where are you going to find those technicians to, you know, man the mobile service and or in store? How are you addressing the tech shortage today in April of 26?"
The hosts discuss the technician shortage facing the auto industry, including NADA’s estimate of roughly 37,000 techs short per year. They connect the shortage to regional labor constraints and explain how dealerships can respond by building relationships with trade schools, attending career fairs, and creating long-term career paths. This is a workforce strategy concept that affects service capacity and customer wait times.
career path + continuing training for technicians
"...you have to be active... you have a relationship with those... show up at career fairs... And then you have to explain what happens. This is not just a job. It's a career... set up a career path, continuing training..."
They’re saying dealerships should treat technician hiring like a long-term plan. Instead of just offering a job, they should offer training and a clear path for how someone’s career and pay can grow over time. That helps keep good techs around.
This segment emphasizes retention and recruitment through structured career paths, continuing training, and financial support (including pay progression over multiple years). The hosts frame technician hiring as a long-term investment rather than a quick staffing fix. It’s a workforce development concept aimed at reducing churn and improving service capacity.
career path of training
"So do the right thing, set them up on a career path of training and pay them properly."
A career path of training means you don’t just hire a tech and hope—they get step-by-step training to grow. It can also help them see a future at the company, which makes them more likely to stay.
A career path of training is a structured plan for developing technicians through progressively advanced skills. For service departments, it helps reduce churn by giving technicians clear goals, improving competence, and making advancement feel achievable.
fleet
"You know, we can look at, like people that for our mobile service department, maybe a pool service company... That's what I was going to ask is on the mobile side, you've got a big enough fleet..."
Here, fleet means the company’s set of service vehicles used to send techs out to customers. Having enough vehicles helps you cover more jobs and keep the schedule moving.
In a mobile service context, a fleet refers to the group of service vehicles (vans/trucks) used to dispatch technicians. Fleet size and utilization affect scheduling, coverage, and how efficiently jobs can be routed.
technician turnover
"So tech turnover according to industry stats is 16.5%. What's your number and what has helped you to increase that retention over time in the technician role?"
Technician turnover is how many techs quit or move on over a period of time. If turnover is high, it’s harder to keep quality consistent and you spend more time training new people.
Technician turnover is how often technicians leave a role or employer, usually measured as a percentage over time. High turnover can disrupt service quality and increase training costs, so retention strategies (pay, training, career paths) are a major operational lever for dealerships and service providers.
tech turnover issue
"we don't have a tech turnover issue here. We really don't. We pride ourselves in treating them with [886.1s] the highest level of respect. We pay them properly. We're very, very, it's a great place to work for [892.1s] us as far as technicians."
They’re discussing whether mechanics keep quitting. If too many leave, the shop can’t keep up with repairs and customers notice.
The hosts are talking about technician retention—whether a shop loses technicians faster than it can hire and train new ones. A “tech turnover issue” usually means staffing instability, which can hurt service capacity and customer experience.
EVs
"Especially when you roll in the EVs [947.6s] and the hybrids. So yes, right? So you're a technician. You're an air conditioning. [953.5s] an electrician. You're a heater. You're all the above."
EVs are cars that run on electricity instead of gasoline. Mechanics working on them need extra training because the electrical parts are different and more complex.
EVs are electric vehicles, and they require technicians to understand high-voltage systems in addition to traditional mechanical work. That’s why the conversation frames modern technician work as both mechanical and electric/technology-driven.
hybrids
"[947.6s] and the hybrids. So yes, right? So you're a technician. You're an air conditioning. [953.5s] an electrician. You're a heater. You're all the above. And you're factoring these high technology, [958.7s] high level performing cars today. It's huge."
A hybrid is a car that uses both gas and electricity. A mechanic has to know how to work on both systems, not just the gas engine.
Hybrids combine an internal combustion engine with an electric motor/battery system. Technicians need to diagnose both fuel/engine systems and electrical drive components, which changes training and repair workflows.
brick and mortar business
"[970.5s] You get a couple mobile service vehicles going and it's going to mess with the brick and mortar [976.2s] business. Are they right or wrong? Are they thinking about mobile wrong in 2026?"
They mean the traditional shop building where cars are brought in. The debate is whether sending service vans out helps the shop or hurts it.
“Brick and mortar” refers to the physical dealership/service facility—its bays, counters, and fixed capacity. The discussion contrasts that fixed footprint with mobile service, questioning whether mobile undermines or complements the in-store operation.
RO print
"It only increases your RO print, which drives your revenue, right? So I can service at any [996.7s] five ROs per day on the Vans per day, per day without expanding one bay in my existing footprint."
They’re talking about how much money each repair ticket brings in. The claim is that mobile service can raise that per-ticket amount, not just the number of tickets.
“RO print” is shorthand for the average repair order value (how much each repair order is worth). The host claims mobile service increases RO print, which improves revenue without expanding physical bays.
customer retention
"So it's marketing your brand, right? [1008.8s] So everywhere those Vans go, they're all lettered up, right? It's marketing. The customer retention [1013.6s] increases. Repeat referral happens immediately."
Retention means getting customers to come back again and again. The idea is that mobile service makes it easier for people to keep using the same dealership.
Customer retention is how often customers return for future service rather than switching to another provider. The host ties mobile service to higher retention through convenience, branding, and faster repeat experiences.
five-star ruler review
"shows that customer satisfaction level goes through the roof. Now, who doesn't want a satisfied customer? [1024.6s] You know, the five-star ruler review versus a one-star or two-star ruler. I'll take five-star"
This refers to online customer ratings—specifically the difference between high (five-star) and low (one- or two-star) reviews. The host argues that mobile service improves satisfaction, which then improves ratings and reputation.
Ford Mustang
"Patrick Block, Motive Ventures says, happy anniversary to the launch of the Ford Mustang April 17, 1964. Happy anniversary, Ford Mustang."
The Ford Mustang is a famous Ford sports car. April 17, 1964 is when the first Mustang was launched, so people celebrate it as a big anniversary.
The Ford Mustang is Ford’s iconic pony car, and April 17, 1964 is widely recognized as its launch date. In dealership and fixed-ops conversations, it often comes up because it’s a high-volume, high-visibility model that influences how brands market and service customers.
Mercedes
"Ford really pushing mobile service for dealers. Ford and Mercedes does the mobile remote service. Very efficient."
Mercedes is mentioned alongside Ford in the context of mobile remote service for dealers. The comparison suggests both brands have invested in service delivery models that reduce customer friction and improve efficiency.
OEM
"Okay, so we get a lot of factory folks that watch this show props to every OEM that watches."
OEM is the company that made the car in the first place. In this context, they’re saying the car makers themselves pay attention to what dealers are doing.
OEM means Original Equipment Manufacturer—the company that built the vehicle (like Ford or Mercedes). The segment notes that factory/OEM teams watch the show, which matters because OEMs often set or influence service standards, tools, and programs like mobile service.
RO's
"He says district stats are about 80% of RO's get a video created on it 60% of those get sent to the customer and only about 40% get viewed."
RO’s means repair orders. It’s the official service ticket for your car once you bring it in for work. The discussion is about how often those service tickets end up with a video that customers actually watch.
RO’s refers to repair orders—paperwork that starts when a customer authorizes service. Dealership performance metrics often track what percentage of repair orders get a video created, sent, and viewed, because it indicates how well the process is engaging customers.
video of their car on the lift
"The views or where it gets the traction when a customer gets a video of their car on the lift. And you know, they just view it."
They’re talking about filming your car while it’s up on the lift so you can actually see what the mechanic is seeing. The point is that the video can build trust, but only if the customer knows to expect it and understands why it matters.
The idea is that showing customers a video of their vehicle during inspection—especially while it’s on the lift—improves transparency and helps them understand what the technician found. The hosts are discussing the funnel problem: even if videos are created, customer engagement depends on how the message is delivered and framed.
service advisor
"But again, that should start with the service advisor letting them know upon write up that they will be receiving a video of your car once it's in the shop."
The service advisor is the person at the dealership who helps set up your service visit. They take your description of the problem, create the service paperwork, and explain what’s going on. Here, they’re being credited with telling the customer to look for the video.
A service advisor is the dealership employee who writes up the customer’s concerns, coordinates the repair process, and communicates updates and recommendations. In this segment, the advisor’s job is emphasized as the “missing link” to ensure customers understand they’ll receive and should watch the video.
role reversal
"So, you know, letting them know to expect it and then say if somebody told me that do a role reversal, right? If I was checking in my car and it's service advisor told me that I'm in. I'm like, okay, where's the video?"
Role reversal means putting yourself in the customer’s shoes. The host is saying that if you were dropping your car off and someone promised a video, you’d want to know where it is and what it’s for—otherwise you might ignore it.
“Role reversal” here is a sales/communication technique: imagining the customer’s perspective to identify friction points in the process. The host suggests that if the advisor doesn’t clearly explain what to look for, customers may not open the message or may not realize the video contains the inspection findings.
100%...90% is a really good number
"We try, you know, and do videos on every car possible, right? So, we strive for 100%. Unfortunately, you know, you can't get there, but 90% is a really good number, okay?"
They’re talking about goals for how often videos get made and watched. Even if you try for everyone, it’s hard to hit 100%, so they’re using a practical benchmark (like 90%) to judge whether the process is working.
This segment discusses target adoption rates for video MPI: aiming for 100% but accepting that real-world processes often land lower. It’s an operational KPI mindset—measuring creation, sending, and viewing rates to improve the workflow rather than assuming every customer will engage.
good tires, good brakes, no leaks
"So, when you get a clean bill of health, good tires, good brakes, no leaks. Excellent. Thank you for coming in today. We appreciate your business. Boom."
This is shorthand for a vehicle inspection “pass” or “clean bill of health,” where common safety and condition items check out. Tires, brakes, and leaks are typical points technicians verify before recommending service or approving a customer-facing report.
clean bill of health
"So, when you get a clean bill of health, good tires, good brakes, no leaks. Excellent. Thank you for coming in today."
“Clean bill of health” just means the car seems fine based on the inspection. They’re using it to describe a vehicle that doesn’t have obvious safety problems or leaks.
A “clean bill of health” is a customer-friendly way to say the vehicle passed inspection with no major issues. In this segment it’s tied to specific checks (tires, brakes, leaks) that support the advisor’s confidence in what to communicate to the customer.
Cox
"...we see a lot of X time and I know Cox has a great product. I'd be curious just what is the challenge between the advisor sending it and delivery and engagement between the customer."
They mention “Cox” as a company whose software helps dealerships send customer videos. The point is that different tools may work differently in how the video gets from the shop to the customer.
Cox is referenced as a provider of a product used to deliver service videos across dealership stores. The discussion compares how different platforms handle the workflow from creation to advisor sending and customer engagement.
video delivery and engagement between the customer
"...Cox has a great product. I'd be curious just what is the challenge between the advisor sending it and delivery and engagement between the customer."
It’s not enough to make a helpful video—dealers also have to get it to the customer and make sure the customer actually sees it. This segment is about why that step can break down.
The hosts are discussing the “last mile” of digital service communication: even if a video is created, it may not be sent or may not be effective. They frame this as a workflow gap between advisor actions (sending) and customer engagement (watching/understanding).
F-bomb
"The advisor might see it and go, hey, there's an F-bomb in the background. There's a poster somewhere."
They’re talking about a video that might include swear words. If the advisor thinks the customer shouldn’t see that, they may hold the video back instead of sending it.
“F-bomb” is slang for profanity. In this context, the advisor may choose not to send a technician-generated video if it contains inappropriate language, which creates a measurable drop-off between videos created and videos sent.
block out any type of profanity
"...the company we use is incredible and has, it actually will block out any type of profanity. We talked about that last time on the show."
The software can automatically stop swear words from making it into the video. That matters because if a video includes profanity, the advisor might choose not to send it to the customer.
This refers to automated content moderation that detects and suppresses profanity in technician/customer videos. The hosts connect it directly to send-rate drop-offs: advisors may avoid sending videos that contain inappropriate language unless the platform filters it.
True, true video
"Who do you use? True, true video. Okay. Very good. And my karma I think does similar. It blocks out, there's a conversation in the bay next to you."
They’re talking about a video service tool that helps prevent problems like swear words showing up in customer videos. It also tries not to capture random background noise from the shop.
“True, true video” appears to be the name of another video-delivery platform used by the dealership hosts. It’s discussed in terms of features like blocking profanity and avoiding picking up unrelated sounds in the service bay.
technician video review workflow
"wasn't explained properly, so you have two options to do it. The technician can make the video and shoot it directly to the customer or they... you can set it up where it goes to the advisor for review and then they send it to the customer."
The hosts discuss a workflow where technician-created service videos can either be sent directly to the customer or routed to an advisor for review first. That “review then send” step helps ensure the message is accurate, appropriately framed, and consistent with how the dealership communicates with customers.
word tracks
"In the beginning it was a little higher because they were still getting used to it. You know, we've worked with them with word tracks and kind of keep it simple."
Word tracks are like a short script for what to say. The idea is to keep the explanation simple so customers don’t get lost in technical details.
“Word tracks” are pre-approved scripts or phrasing guidelines used by service teams to keep communication consistent. In this context, they’re used to help technicians describe repairs in a simple, customer-friendly way so the video doesn’t become too technical.
link vs embedded video
"Dancy says, does the text actually embed the video or is it a link to the video? ... It's a link. But again, you have to set the customer's mind that you're going to get a link... it comes as a link and then it'll bring you to our app."
They’re debating whether the message includes the video right inside the text or if it sends you to a link. Either way, the advisor needs to tell the customer what to expect so they don’t ignore it.
The discussion clarifies whether the customer receives an embedded video or a clickable link. They note it’s a link that opens an app experience, which means the dealership must set expectations so customers know what to click and where the video will appear.
message opt-outs and carrier throttling
"...customer will get a text message if sent their vendor has a lot of opt outs, depend on the carrier, different carriers will throttle, not deliver messages based on their rules."
Not every text message is guaranteed to arrive. Some customers opt out, and phone carriers can limit or delay messages, so the dealership needs the right system/provider to make sure texts get through.
The hosts mention that text-message delivery can be affected by opt-outs and carrier rules. Some carriers may throttle or block messages based on compliance settings, so dealerships need a reliable provider and a solid process to ensure customers actually receive the video updates.
Master Tech
"... tech after retiring from the military and was a master tech back in the late 70s until he passed on 2010. He ..."
“Master” doesn’t clearly name a specific car in the context you provided. It may be referring to a person’s job title instead of a vehicle. If you share the exact car name (make/model) mentioned, I can explain that specific car.
“Master” isn’t specific enough to identify a particular car model or make from the provided context. It could refer to a person’s title (like a master technician) rather than a vehicle, so there isn’t a clear car to explain.
testing systems and processes
"...we have got to in automotive get good at testing systems and processes and making sure that every step along the way, whether we're talking about advertising, listings, BDC phone systems, like every system and process, we've got to test it and make sure it lands right."
They’re saying dealerships should test their customer follow-up systems like a checklist. If the texts or emails go out at the wrong time (or too many times), customers get annoyed even if the service itself was good.
The hosts emphasize that dealerships need to test every step of their customer communication stack—advertising, listings, and service/BDC follow-up—so messages trigger at the right time and for the right customers. This is essentially process engineering for customer experience: measure engagement, verify triggers, and prevent “wrong moment” outreach.
BDC phone systems
"...whether we're talking about advertising, listings, BDC phone systems, like every system and process, we've got to test it and make sure it lands right."
BDC is the dealership’s lead-follow-up team. Their phone system helps make sure people who inquire about a car get contacted quickly and consistently.
BDC stands for Business Development Center. In dealerships, BDC phone systems help route and follow up on leads (calls, texts, emails) so prospects don’t fall through the cracks after the first contact.
RO
"...as soon as my RO closed out, I got four text messages from different systems asking if I wanted to trade in my car."
RO usually means a Repair Order—basically the paperwork that starts when the service team begins work on your car. In this case, the dealer’s system sends texts automatically when that paperwork is created.
In service-department context, RO typically means Repair Order. The transcript describes automation that triggers customer texts when a Repair Order is opened, which is a key part of dealership follow-up workflows.
trade in
"...I got four text messages from different systems asking if I wanted to trade in my car."
Trade-in means you bring your current car to the dealer and use it toward buying a different car. Here, the dealer’s system is prompting trade-in offers right after service, which can annoy some customers if it’s too much.
A trade-in is when a customer uses their current vehicle as part of the purchase of another vehicle. The transcript highlights automated outreach that asks about trade-ins after service events, which can be effective when timed well but can feel intrusive if overdone.
customer follow-up automation triggers
"...So yeah, that they get a text for that. So when any time an RO opens up, it triggers out a text... Also the service department, the advisor"
The segment describes automated text triggers tied to service workflow events (e.g., when an RO opens). It also mentions using criteria/parameters so customers aren’t contacted inappropriately (like sending service-drive prompts to a very new car), which is crucial for avoiding negative customer experiences.
opt in / opt out
"...they need the education of the policy because they have to opt in. Now, if they opt out, then you lose them. You don't have that ability to communicate through text."
They’re talking about whether the customer agrees to get texts and videos from the dealership. If a customer opts out, the dealership loses the ability to send those updates, which can make it harder to guide them through the repair.
The segment describes customer consent for receiving digital communications (texts, videos, and payment links). Opting out changes what the dealership can send, which can reduce transparency and follow-up effectiveness.
MPI
"...this is what we do 100% of the time we send a video MPI. If people are trying to prove it doesn't work, if you show low engagement, that just justifies it."
MPI typically stands for Multi-Point Inspection, a standardized checklist inspection used in service departments. The hosts discuss sending an MPI video to customers and how engagement metrics can be used to judge whether the process is working.
cost of labor
"Cost of labor. Everybody's, you know, the cost of labor is incredibly high and it's continually going up."
The hosts call out labor cost as a major fixed-ops pressure point, noting it’s rising and affects staffing decisions. In service departments, labor cost directly impacts technician productivity, advisor support, and overall return on investment.
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Ford recalls
"including that awesome conversation we just had with Jim Sabino on all things fixed ops, including mobile, Ford recalls, customer retention, and even kind of leaning in and continuing the debate on video MPI..."
“Ford recalls” refers to manufacturer recall campaigns issued by Ford for safety or compliance issues. In fixed ops, recalls are a recurring service workload that requires tracking, scheduling, and customer communication to ensure vehicles are corrected.
overlapping processes
"Yoga car says dealers often sign up for a lot of new shiny tools. And nor does the vendor ask if there's a conflict with other vendor, nor does dealer know. So I think that's fair. There are overlapping processes. And sometimes those overlapping processes can cost the customer's peace of mind..."
Sometimes dealers use several software tools at the same time, and they can end up sending messages that step on each other. That can confuse customers and make them feel like they’re being spammed.
The transcript highlights that dealerships may use multiple vendors/tools that trigger similar customer communications or workflows. When those processes overlap, customers can receive conflicting messages, which can reduce trust and hurt service experience and retention.
Cool Springs
"Next up, Chris McPhillips, fixed ops director, Nissan, Genesis and Hyundai of Cool Springs. Welcome to the show, Chris."
Cool Springs is the area where the dealership group operates. Different places can have different customer habits, so the same service strategy may perform differently.
“Cool Springs” here refers to the dealership location/market area, which matters because service workflows and customer behavior can vary by region. It’s a useful detail for listeners trying to map ideas to their own local market.
Nissan
"Next up, Chris McPhillips, fixed ops director, Nissan, Genesis and Hyundai of Cool Springs. Welcome to the show, Chris."
Nissan is a car brand. When people talk about Nissan in a service or dealership context, they usually mean how that brand’s cars are supported—like parts, repairs, and warranty work.
Nissan is a major Japanese automaker with a large dealer network in the U.S. In fixed-ops discussions, Nissan often refers to how service departments handle parts, warranties, and customer communication for Nissan vehicles.
X time
"We use X time. Okay. So you do X time. Have you ever heard that where there is a loss between, so, you know, video creation at 1% tech or the service advisors decide not to send the video..."
“X time” sounds like the software the dealership uses to make and send the inspection videos to customers. It helps organize the process so the right video gets to the right person.
“X time” appears to be the software/platform the dealership uses to create and deliver video MPIs. Tools like this typically manage the workflow from inspection capture to customer delivery and tracking engagement.
loss between video creation and customer engagement
"Have you ever heard that where there is a loss between, so, you know, video creation at 1% tech or the service advisors decide not to send the video and then such a high percent of consumers don't end up engaging with or opening the video."
They’re talking about a drop-off in the process. Even if the shop makes the inspection video, customers might not get it, might not open it, or might not act on it—so fewer repairs get approved.
The hosts discuss a “funnel” problem: even if a video MPI is created, it may not be sent by advisors or may not be opened/engaged with by customers. This is a common fixed-ops challenge because each step (creation → sending → viewing → approval) can reduce overall conversion.
quote three tires
"you know, send it through and don't even send the video. So we always try to quote three tires, [2125.6s] you know, good, better, best. And the next time it's hard to sometimes quote that because it comes"
They’re describing a way dealers price tires in different “levels” instead of one option. That makes it easier for a customer to choose based on budget and what they want from the tires.
The hosts are talking about presenting tire pricing in tiers (often “good, better, best”) rather than a single price. This helps customers understand differences in brand, tread life, or performance level while still keeping the conversation structured.
withhold a video from the consumer
"And the next time it's hard to sometimes quote that because it comes over like $3,000 instead of just one set of tires. Okay. So some of it could be system or process. [2162.7s] reasons why some of the advisors would withhold a video from the consumer that comes back from the tech if it doesn't look quite right."
The discussion suggests advisors may hold back a diagnostic or inspection video if it’s unclear or easily misunderstood. This is about managing customer perception and comprehension—balancing transparency with communication quality.
service menus
"Yeah, we do service menus. And every morning, the advisors get a report on their penetration and on their, the way how many times they offered the service. [2193.8s] We, I believe in it, they believe in it now"
A service menu is a structured list of recommended maintenance and repairs that advisors present to customers. The goal is to standardize what’s offered, track advisor “penetration” (how often it’s offered), and improve close rates by making recommendations consistent.
penetration
"And every morning, the advisors get a report on their penetration and on their, the way how many times they offered the service. [2193.8s] We, I believe in it, they believe in it now, as explained at the wind to a restaurant."
In this context, “penetration” means how often a recommended service is offered to customers (and potentially how often it’s accepted). It’s a performance metric used to measure advisor consistency and sales effectiveness in fixed operations.
close on that 40% of the time
"And then we'd hope that have opportunity to close on that 40% of the time. Okay. And then like I said, daily."
“Close” refers to converting a customer’s interest into an approved repair or service. The “40% of the time” figure is presented as a target or observed conversion rate from the menu offers to actual work being authorized.
BG chemicals
"And what's the technology that you use to deliver that menu to the customer? BG. Say it again. BG chemicals. Okay, BG. So they train on it. They've got an electronic delivery tool to do that."
BG Chemicals is a company that makes car cleaning products that shops sell and install as part of maintenance. In this segment, it’s also connected to how advisors are trained and how they present options to customers.
BG Chemicals is an aftermarket automotive chemical brand known for fuel system, engine, and drivetrain cleaning products used in service departments. The hosts mention it as part of training and an electronic delivery tool tied to the service menu process.
CDK
"Although I would tell you you've got the conflicting competing stat from CDK that says average hold time in service when trying to get a hold of a service advisor or anyone in fixed ops is nine minutes."
CDK is a company that makes software dealerships use to run day-to-day operations. Here, they’re cited as having data about how long customers wait to reach service.
CDK is a major automotive dealership software provider used for operations like scheduling, service workflows, and customer communication. In this segment, it’s referenced as the source of a report about average hold times in service departments.
average hold time
"from CDK that says average hold time in service when trying to get a hold of a service advisor or anyone in fixed ops is nine minutes."
Hold time is how long you’re stuck waiting on the phone before someone answers. Shorter hold times usually mean better service and less frustration for customers.
Average hold time is the average duration customers spend waiting on the phone before reaching a service advisor or someone in the service department. It’s often used as a customer-experience metric and can indicate staffing, process, or call-routing issues.
daily reporting
"Well, we, we have to inspect, right? What we expect. So yeah, the daily reporting, being out in the drive, showing them how it does work."
Daily reporting means checking in on what happened in the service department every day. It helps the team stay consistent and spot problems early instead of waiting weeks to see results.
Daily reporting is a management practice of tracking and reviewing service department activity each day. In this context, it’s used to show the team how the process works and to reinforce consistent execution of the new pricing/inspection approach.
tire rotation
"because they've created the work, the work goes in, the technicians able to, you know, produce the work, then create the multi point, check the brakes and the safety items. If nothing else is needed, the guest is gone versus waiting for, well, let me go find the guests for a tire rotation"
Tire rotation means moving your tires to different spots on the car. It helps them wear more evenly so you don’t replace them as soon.
Tire rotation is the scheduled swapping of tires’ positions to promote even tread wear. Dealerships often include it as part of maintenance menus because it’s common, relatively quick, and helps extend tire life.
upsell
"now the guests isn't waiting for potentially to have an upsell for tire rotation or for an air filter because they've created the work, the work goes in, the technicians able to, you know, produce the work"
An upsell is when they suggest extra services while you’re already at the shop. Ideally it’s based on what your car actually needs, not just a random add-on.
An upsell is when a business recommends additional services beyond the original request (for example, adding tire rotation or an air filter to a visit). In fixed ops, upsells are often tied to inspection findings and can affect workflow timing and customer wait times.
air filter
"or for an air filter cars on the rack. It just slows down the whole process of a basic service."
An air filter cleans the air entering the engine, which affects combustion efficiency and engine performance. Service departments often recommend replacing it at intervals, and it’s commonly included in maintenance upsell menus.
multi point check
"then create the multi point, check the brakes and the safety items. If nothing else is needed, the guest is gone versus waiting for, well, let me go find the guests for a tire rotation or for me to go find the guests for an air filter"
A multi-point check is a checklist-style inspection of several important things on your car. The goal is to catch issues early and make sure safety items are reviewed during the appointment.
A multi-point check is a structured inspection covering multiple vehicle systems (often including brakes and safety-related items) during a service visit. It helps standardize what gets reviewed and can reduce missed recommendations or delays.
service menu with three choices
"Well, how do you present the menu so it doesn't come across as a sales job? Because we give them choices. They always have three choices."
Instead of one “take it or leave it” service offer, the shop gives you a few clear options. That makes it feel more like helpful planning than a sales attempt.
The hosts are describing a structured service “menu” that gives customers a small set of options (here, three tiers). The idea is to present maintenance as choices based on goals and budget, rather than a pushy sales pitch.
preferred way to service the vehicle
"So they have the minimum way to service the vehicle, like a preferred way. And then obviously the, best way for the guest to really enjoys a car, they're a car enthusiast, they're going to keep it."
“Preferred” here refers to a middle-tier option in the service menu—typically the recommended maintenance level that balances cost and thoroughness. In practice, it’s often aligned with manufacturer guidance and what the shop believes is necessary for long-term ownership.
pay plans
"And are the service advisors now that they're seeing the additional revenue resulted, hopefully their pay plans reflected, are they starting to get bought off into it more?"
Pay plans are how the shop decides how much the advisor gets paid. If the incentives match the new process, advisors are more likely to support it.
Pay plans are compensation structures that can tie advisors’ earnings to performance—often including labor sales, gross profit, or customer satisfaction. The discussion implies that when additional revenue comes from the menu approach, advisors’ incentives should align with it.
inspection
"We already do the inspection. We do some photos, but I'd really like a, you know, 100% video."
An inspection is when the shop looks over your car to find what needs attention. It’s how they decide what service to recommend.
An inspection is the diagnostic step where the shop checks vehicle condition and identifies needed work. The segment mentions doing inspections plus photos, and then moving toward full video to improve transparency and customer understanding.
700 hours more than last year
"I think last month we turned 700 hours more than last year."
They’re comparing how much work the shop got done versus last year. More “hours” usually means more cars serviced or more labor performed.
“Hours” here likely refers to technician labor hours or shop throughput. The comparison (this month vs last year) is used as an operational metric to show the process change improved productivity.
photos
"We already do the inspection. We do some photos, but I'd really like a, you know, 100% video."
They take pictures during the inspection so the customer can see what the technician is talking about. It helps build trust.
Photos are being used as part of the inspection documentation—showing customers what the technician found. The hosts want to upgrade this to video for even more clarity and transparency.
video retention
"All right. So you're a Nissan, you're Hyundai, you're Genesis. What OEM in April of 2026 really supports what you're doing from a menu standpoint, video retention."
Video retention is how much of a video people actually watch. If people watch longer, it usually means the video is clearer and more convincing.
“Video retention” refers to how long viewers stay engaged with dealership/service videos. In a service-department context, higher retention usually means customers are more likely to watch explanations of repairs, maintenance, and recommendations.
menu for service
"Eager K comes in, says very interesting menu for service. Menu not only provides choices to customers, but also protects the dealers if a customer will claim something wasn't even offered. And now it's a problem."
A service menu is a list of repair/maintenance options you show customers. It helps customers understand what they can choose and can also prevent arguments later about what was offered.
A “service menu” is a structured set of recommended service options presented to customers, often with clear choices and pricing/expectations. The hosts note it can protect dealers by reducing disputes when customers later claim they weren’t offered certain work.
service transparency
"you know, Chris to Eager's point, it's interesting how in service, like the more transparency, the more information we can deliver to the customer, the better decisions they can make. And the higher the customer satisfaction is."
Service transparency is being upfront with customers about what the car needs and what the choices are. When people understand the situation, they’re more likely to feel good about the decision.
“Service transparency” means giving customers more information about what’s being done, why it’s needed, and what options exist. The hosts connect it to better decision-making and higher customer satisfaction, implying a shift toward more open communication in service departments.
used vehicle acquisition
"We've talked about used vehicle acquisition. It's a huge pain point in the industry in 2026. What are you doing in your stores to get used vehicles brought in as service partnering with sales and anything on used vehicle acquisition?"
“Used vehicle acquisition” is the process of sourcing and bringing pre-owned inventory into a dealership, often through trades, auctions, or wholesale channels. The hosts call it a major pain point in 2026 and discuss internal workflow—especially partnering service with sales—to increase the odds of acquiring good trades.
data mining
"Typically, I'll address like the sales manager, the fleet manager, let them know, Hey, tomorrow we have a high appointment count. So they can pull their, you know, data mining, looking for equity."
Data mining means using information the dealership already has to find opportunities. In this case, it’s used to figure out who might have a valuable trade-in.
“Data mining” here refers to using dealership/customer data to identify likely trade-in opportunities and vehicle equity. The speaker mentions pulling data to find equity, which helps sales and fleet managers target customers when service activity is high.
service drive
"And I welcome many, you know, the sales associates, they can come to my service drive. I love acquiring cars through the service drive because we acquire potentially a great trade."
The service drive is where cars pull in to get worked on. The idea is that customers already there are a good opportunity to talk trade-ins.
A “service drive” is the customer-facing area where vehicles enter for maintenance and repairs. The speaker highlights using the service drive as a place to acquire trades—because customers already in service may be more likely to consider replacing their vehicle.
Hop Drive
"And especially the Genesis size, we have a whole company called Hop Drive that's picking up our guests and dropping off loaners and really making it so the guest doesn't have to come to the store."
They’re talking about a service that comes to you. It picks up your car or you, then drops off a loaner so you don’t have to spend time traveling to the dealership.
Hop Drive is described as a company that supports the dealership by picking up guests and dropping off loaners. The key idea is reducing friction for customers by handling transportation so the customer doesn’t have to come into the store.
standalone Genesis store
"Yeah. Is your Genesis store, is it standalone or is it combined service drives with Hyundai? It's a standalone. It's a standalone."
Standalone means Genesis has its own setup instead of sharing the same service area with Hyundai. That can change the customer experience—like how busy the shop is and how personalized service feels.
A standalone Genesis store means Genesis service and/or sales operations are separated from Hyundai’s facilities rather than sharing the same service drives. The speaker uses this to set up a question about what people don’t understand about Genesis service in 2026.
intimate service experience
"The guest is new to the product and we're just getting a chance to wow them and provide a more intimate service than maybe if you went to a larger European store where there's like a hundred cars coming in..."
They’re saying Genesis service is designed to feel more personal. Instead of a huge shop with lots of cars coming in, it’s smaller and the team can focus more on each customer.
The segment contrasts an “intimate” Genesis service experience with a high-volume European-style store. The idea is that fewer cars per day can enable more personalized communication and a more premium customer journey.
pick up and drop off service
"It's the car and the pick up and drop off service and providing the cars."
Pickup and drop-off service means the dealership handles getting your car to the shop and back. It helps you avoid taking time off work just to get maintenance or repairs done.
Pickup and drop-off service is a dealership logistics offering where the shop collects the customer’s vehicle and returns it after service. In fixed operations, it’s a key part of improving service level and customer satisfaction, especially when repairs take time.
time to repair
"So you got to make sure you manage that correctly and then time to repair, right? You can't have the guests down a lot of car forever because then you can't give it to the next guest."
Time to repair is how long it takes the shop to fix your car. If it takes too long, it can mess up scheduling and make it harder for the dealership to help the next customer.
“Time to repair” is the operational metric for how long a vehicle stays in the shop from intake to completion. Managing it matters because delays can affect loaner availability, customer experience, and the shop’s ability to cycle vehicles through for the next appointment.
loaner cars
"So the original owner gets a vehicle pretty much anytime they want. So you got to make sure you manage that correctly and then time to repair, right? You can't have the guests down a lot of car forever because then you can't give it to the next guest."
A loaner car is a replacement vehicle the dealership gives you while your car is in the shop. They’re saying you can’t keep people waiting too long because the loaners have to be available for the next customer too.
Loaner cars (or courtesy vehicles) are provided to customers while their vehicle is being repaired. The hosts emphasize that dealerships must manage loaner availability and repair timing so they can keep serving customers without long downtime.
menu implementation
"...this conversation today on video MPI and on menu. So let's dive into it."
A “menu” approach means the shop offers service options in a few clear packages, like choices you can understand quickly. Instead of a confusing list, customers can pick what fits their needs and budget.
“Menu implementation” refers to structuring service recommendations into clear packages or options (a “menu”) rather than presenting one-off repairs. In fixed operations, this can improve customer decision-making, speed up approvals, and standardize how advisors present maintenance and repairs.
perceived price point
"Price point. Yeah, or perceived price point. I'm going to argue you with that. Do you think that's real or perceived? Perceived is perceived. It's interesting because a lot of the stats I read show that there's a customer perception we're more expensive."
They’re distinguishing between what the shop actually charges and what customers believe they charge. The hosts argue that customer perception (“we’re more expensive”) can drive lost business even when the dealership is competitively priced.
the one that gets away
"All right, Chris, what are you doing to prevent the one that gets away? And what is the number one reason we're losing customers in fixed ops in 2026?"
It means the customer you almost had—then they decide not to book the work. The discussion is about how advisors can prevent that by presenting choices and benefits clearly.
“The one that gets away” refers to customers who walk away from the dealership’s service process and choose an independent shop instead. Here, they connect it to how service advisors present options and value.
giving the guest options
"The advisors aren't giving the guest options. It's like our price is $9.99. Yeah. And that's it. No, that's not true. They're going to go to independent."
Instead of saying “it costs $X and that’s it,” the advisor should offer choices. When customers see options (and what each one means), they’re more likely to say yes.
They’re describing a sales/consulting approach for service: present multiple repair paths (e.g., different parts or price levels) instead of a single price. The idea is that customers are more likely to approve work when they understand choices like OEM parts, alternative parts, or financing.
service financing
"Or give them three options. We can go this, this, and this. We have service financing."
Service financing means you can pay for repairs over time instead of all at once. It’s one of the tools advisors can use to make the cost easier to approve.
Service financing is payment financing offered for repairs and maintenance, often through the dealership or a lender. In the segment, it’s presented as part of the “menu” of options that helps customers say yes to needed work.
dealer share of service on vehicles that are under two years dropped from 72% to 54%
"I found a data point from a provider that said dealer share of service on vehicles that are under two years, two years old, dropped from 72% to 54. So I think that's lube oil filter, some of the routine maintenance."
This is basically about where people take their newer cars for service. If the number drops, it means fewer customers are sticking with the dealer for routine work. That can happen if the dealer doesn’t keep in touch or make service feel easy.
The hosts are discussing how much of a vehicle’s warranty-period service work stays with the selling dealer. A drop in “dealer share” suggests customers are choosing other service options sooner, even while the car is still relatively new. That can point to issues in handoff, outreach, or manufacturer/dealer recall and service processes.
lube oil filter
"So I think that's lube oil filter, some of the routine maintenance. Whose fault is that in April of 26 sales, handoff service, follow through, or is it on the manufacturer?"
“Lube oil filter” refers to routine maintenance that typically includes an oil change and replacing the engine oil filter. It’s often one of the first scheduled services owners do during the first couple of years. Dealers frequently use these visits as a chance to build long-term customer relationships.
handoff service, follow through
"Whose fault is that in April of 26 sales, handoff service, follow through, or is it on the manufacturer? Chris? Well, I don't even like Toyota went away from their two year being an insert down to one."
“Handoff service” and “follow through” describe the process after a sale—how the dealership communicates upcoming service needs and ensures the customer actually books and completes them. When that process is inconsistent, customers may drift to independent shops or other dealers. The segment frames this as a key driver of whether new-car owners return for routine maintenance.
Toyota
"Well, I don't even like Toyota went away from their two year being an insert down to one. Yeah. It's, I bet it's probably a little bit of both."
Toyota is mentioned in the context of changing its service/warranty-related program timing (“two year” down to “one”). That kind of policy shift can affect how often customers are prompted to return to the dealer during the early ownership period. The hosts use it as an example of how manufacturer decisions can influence dealer service retention.
connected vehicle data alerts the customer that... your service is coming up soon
"So, you know, the manufacturers do everything they can to assist us. And, and, you know, especially with connected vehicle data, connected vehicle data alerts the customer that, hey, your service is coming up soon, you have low tire and your left front, low air and your left front tire schedule your oil soon,"
Some cars can send information to an app or system about what the car needs. That can include reminders like “oil change soon” or “tire pressure is low.” The hosts are saying this kind of reminder can help people come back for service.
Connected vehicle data uses telematics to monitor vehicle status and send alerts to the owner (and sometimes the dealer) about upcoming service needs. In this discussion, it’s positioned as a way to reduce missed maintenance and improve dealer retention. The key idea is that proactive alerts can make service feel timely and necessary rather than optional.
cash years
"So it's up to us, put your BDC and your cash [3220.7s] years and your advisors to work every day. Contact your customer. They're your customer."
This phrase doesn’t clearly match a standard dealership term. It sounds like the host is talking about the right people/teams working together to contact customers and schedule service.
“Cash years” appears to be a transcription error or mishearing of a dealership role/process term. Given the surrounding context (“put your BDC and your cash… and your advisors to work every day”), it likely refers to a specific department or staffing category that supports advisors and customer follow-up.
firefighting vs staying strategic
"How do you avoid individually [3251.0s] getting caught up in the firefighting and staying strategic in your roles? Because [3255.9s] in, in 2026 with all the technology and every, all the, all the processes, it would be so easy [3261.9s] to get stuck in firefighting and not get strategic."
“Firefighting” means constantly putting out problems as they happen. “Staying strategic” means planning ahead and using a system so you’re not always reacting in panic.
The hosts contrast “firefighting” (reacting to urgent problems as they pop up) with staying “strategic” (running processes proactively). In service departments, this often comes down to workflow design, delegation, and consistent follow-up so issues don’t cascade into constant emergencies.
follow up multiple times daily
"So [3333.0s] it's not at me against you or you, you know, I'm here to, we're working together. So [3338.1s] remain calm as best possible and just follow up is, is really something that I do often, [3344.6s] like multiple times daily, follow up, follow up, follow up."
They’re saying the key is checking in with customers often. That way people don’t get forgotten, and appointments and updates stay on track.
The speaker emphasizes “follow up” repeatedly as a management and customer-service practice. In dealership operations, frequent follow-up helps move customers through the service journey (scheduling, approvals, updates, and completion) and prevents leads from going cold.
service department's role
"Don T says in the comments, I think customers don't understand the service department's role. Let's see. I think customers not understanding the service department's role falls on the salesperson. We just bought a brand new car and we weren't even shown where the service department was."
They’re talking about how the service team isn’t just for repairs—it’s where you schedule maintenance and get help after you buy. The point is the salesperson should introduce you to that team so you know what to do next.
The hosts are discussing how customers often don’t understand what the service department does and why it matters. They argue that the salesperson should set expectations at delivery so the customer knows where to go for maintenance, repairs, and scheduling.
time of delivery
"One of the things that's required, every customer through our organization, at time of delivery, goes to the service department, meets a service advisor, gets their first appointment set up right then and there. It has to happen."
They’re saying that when you pick up your new car, the dealership should immediately introduce you to the service department and get your first service appointment scheduled. That way you’re not left guessing what happens after the sale.
“Time of delivery” here means the moment the customer takes possession of the vehicle. The hosts emphasize a consistent handoff process: meeting a service advisor and setting up the first service appointment immediately.
labor hour increase
"your best tech just got a $3 an hour offer more. So $3 labor hour increase offer across town."
They’re talking about the cost of labor—basically how much the shop charges per hour for technician work. If another shop is paying more, dealerships may need to adjust rates or pay to keep their best techs.
A “labor hour increase” refers to raising the shop’s billed labor rate per hour (often to stay competitive with wages and market pricing). The discussion frames it as a response to technician retention pressure from other shops offering higher pay.
lose your best tech
"If you're not paying them three, you're probably going to pay them five. So, you know, that's what it is today. You cannot afford to lose your best tech, no matter what, no matter what, any day, any day, you cannot lose them."
The hosts argue that technician retention is critical because losing top technicians hurts both quality and throughput. They also imply a cost-of-replacement reality: if you don’t match the offer, you may end up paying more later (or losing the tech anyway).
service walk before FNI
"Patrick Block says, when I sold cars at Lexus, I had to do a service walk before FNI. It's amazing with all the technology that exists out there."
Some dealers do a quick “service walk” before the sale is finalized. It’s basically explaining what maintenance and service will look like so customers don’t feel surprised later.
A “service walk” is a sales process step where the dealer walks the customer through service/maintenance expectations before finalizing the purchase. “FNI” is likely an internal dealership acronym for the point right before the deal is finalized, so the idea is to connect service to the buying decision early.
Lexus
"Patrick Block says, when I sold cars at Lexus, I had to do a service walk before FNI."
Lexus is Toyota’s luxury brand, and the speaker references their dealership process while selling Lexus vehicles. This matters because luxury brands often emphasize customer experience and structured handoffs between sales and service.
Daily Dealer Live
"Jim Sabino, fixed ops director, all American Ford and Chris McPhillips... Thank you both for being on the roundtable, a daily deal alive."
This is the name of the podcast/show they’re doing. They’re saying it’s live on certain days and they’ll be back next week.
“Daily Dealer Live” is the show format being discussed, focused on breaking down major moves in the car business as they happen. It’s presented as a recurring live program with specific broadcast days and times.
NADA FTC webinar
"And hey, a quick reminder to our listening audience. Thanks for being here, but also tune into the NADA FTC webinar."
NADA is a dealer organization, and the FTC is a U.S. government agency that regulates consumer protection. The webinar is likely about rules dealers have to follow when selling and advertising cars.
NADA refers to the National Automobile Dealers Association, and “FTC” points to the U.S. Federal Trade Commission. A webinar like this typically covers dealership compliance topics and current rules affecting how dealers market and sell vehicles.
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