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Fixed Ops Friday w/ Nicholson, Rivera | Daily Dealer Live

Fixed Ops Friday w/ Nicholson, Rivera | Daily Dealer Live

Car Dealership Guy Podcast May 22, 2026 57 min
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Dealership service revenue is setting records, yet dealers are still losing market share, and the hosts connect that tension to fixed-ops execution. The conversation shifts into practical playbooks: centralized BDC call handling, digital MPIs with accountability, and using video/pictures to improve repair approvals and CSI. Guests also share how they staff and scale fixed ops—technician pipelines, mobile service vans, and measurable RO, gross profit, and MPS targets—while navigating DMS transitions, data cleansing for AI, and even policy ideas like stopping salary talk in the shop.

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Car

Dodge Ram Dodge

"next five years targeting 25% revenue growth in the region by 2030 and expanding market coverage from 60% today to over 90%. The full lineup across Jeep, Ram, Dodge and Chrysler is either new or significantly refreshed. Ram adds a mid-sized pickup, large SUV and the Rampage. Dodge brings the"

The Dodge Ram is a pickup truck. People buy it for work and for towing or hauling things. It’s often discussed in sales plans because it’s one of the main trucks in the brand’s lineup.

Car

Jeep Recon

"...ge brings the new GLH, Jeep adds the Cherokee and Recon. Chrysler gets three new crossovers. On affordabi..."

The Jeep Recon is a Jeep SUV that’s being talked about as a new addition to the lineup. It’s meant to be a modern SUV for everyday use, with Jeep-style capability depending on the final configuration. It comes up in the podcast because it’s part of a set of new vehicles being planned.

Car

Jeep Cherokee

"... Rampage. Dodge brings the new GLH, Jeep adds the Cherokee and Recon. Chrysler gets three new crossovers. On..."

The Jeep Cherokee is a small-to-mid size SUV. It’s made for carrying people and cargo and can be offered with features that help on rougher roads. It’s mentioned because it’s a key Jeep SUV model that dealerships sell and update over time.

Company

Stellantis

"Stellantis is committing to nine vehicles under $40,000 by 2030, including two under $29,000... the company is also integrating Wave's AI driver technology into its STLA auto drive platform by 2028."

Stellantis is a big car company. Here they’re talking about plans to sell more cheaper EVs and hybrids, plus new tech for driving assistance.

Company

Wave

"the company is also integrating Wave's AI driver technology into its STLA auto drive platform by 2028."

Wave is mentioned as a company that makes AI driving technology. Stellantis says it plans to use Wave’s tech in its own driver-assist system.

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STLA auto drive platform

"the company is also integrating Wave's AI driver technology into its STLA auto drive platform by 2028."

STLA AutoDrive is Stellantis’s system for advanced driving help—things like smarter driver-assist features. They’re saying they’ll add new AI technology to it by 2028.

Concept

Build America 250 Act

"the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee began markup this week on the Build America 250 Act, which includes proposed federal annual registration fees..."

The Build America 250 Act is a proposed U.S. law. The part they’re talking about would add yearly fees for EVs and plug-in hybrids, and those fees would rise over time.

Topic

EV and hybrid dealer legislative impact

"closing out today's news with a legislative development worth watching for EV and hybrid dealers... Build America 250 Act... proposed federal annual registration fees..."

This segment is about a proposed law that could add fees for EVs and plug-in hybrids. The hosts discuss why it matters for dealers selling those vehicles.

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federal annual registration fees

"includes proposed federal annual registration fees of 130 bucks for EVs and 35 bucks for plug-in hybrids... The fees would be paid on top of existing state fees..."

These are yearly government charges for registering a vehicle. The segment says the proposal would charge EVs and plug-in hybrids each year, in addition to what states already charge.

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Highway Trust Fund

"The fees would be paid on top of existing state fees and deposited into the Highway Trust Fund."

The Highway Trust Fund is money the government uses for road building and maintenance. They’re saying the new EV-related fees would go into that same pot.

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ICE drivers

"EV drivers currently bypass the federal gas tax at 18.4 per gallon that ICE drivers pay to fund road maintenance."

ICE means internal combustion engine—cars that burn fuel like gasoline or diesel. The segment uses “ICE drivers” to describe people who pay the gas tax today.

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federal gas tax

"EV drivers currently bypass the federal gas tax at 18.4 per gallon that ICE drivers pay to fund road maintenance."

The federal gas tax is a tax added to each gallon of gasoline. EV drivers don’t pay it because they don’t buy gas, so the proposal tries to make up that funding gap.

Topic

Guest introduction: Spencer Nicholson

"welcome to Fixedops Friday... Spencer Nicholson is up first, Fixed Operations Director at Stucky Automotive... I started here about nine years ago..."

This part is mainly introducing the guest and where he works. It’s not really about car tech yet.

Brand

Stucky Automotive

"Spencer Nicholson is up first, Fixed Operations Director at Stucky Automotive. Spencer, welcome to the show... Work for Stucky Automotive here in Central PA..."

Stucky Automotive is the dealership business where the guest works. They mention it so listeners know who he is and why he’s qualified to talk about dealerships.

Concept

Fixed Ops

"and then was fortunate enough that Matt thought enough of me to promote me into Fixedops Director to oversee all of our stores, [489.9s] commercial truck shop, and collision centers. Wait, so you went from finance manager into Fixed?"

“Fixed Ops” is the part of a car dealership that makes money from fixing cars—like service work, parts sales, and repairs. It’s different from the sales side where you sell vehicles.

Concept

P&L responsibility

"So who has command controller? Who has [549.2s] P&L responsibility at the store level? That's an interesting structure. And why?"

“P&L” means profit and loss. If someone has P&L responsibility, they’re accountable for whether that part of the business makes money or loses money.

Concept

used centralized recon department

"We don't handle [564.1s] used cars in the store. We have a used centralized recon department. Okay. And again, it's just [570.9s] worked for us."

“Recon” is the work done to prepare a used car for sale (like repairs and detailing). A “centralized recon department” means the group does that prep in one central place instead of at every store.

Company

FTC

"Don Hall would say, hey, look, part of the issue with the FTC and the letters that went out is [599.9s] GM pay plans that incentivize and pay way too much money to a GM that drive results at stores."

The “FTC” is a U.S. government agency that helps protect consumers. Here it’s mentioned because it sent letters related to how incentives and dealership practices can be handled.

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GM pay plans

"Don Hall would say, hey, look, part of the issue with the FTC and the letters that went out is [599.9s] GM pay plans that incentivize and pay way too much money to a GM that drive results at stores."

A “GM pay plan” is how a dealership general manager gets paid. It’s usually based on goals, and the discussion here is about whether those goals can push managers too hard.

Concept

technician retention

"What's your strategy on hiring and recruiting in May of 2026 technicians and retention for that matter?"

Technician retention means keeping mechanics from quitting or leaving. They’re saying the industry struggles to hire enough people and then keep them working in the shop.

Concept

technician pipeline

"we've teamed up with the, the career and technology centers in our area. And they are, have been a great pipeline for us. I'm having a meeting with one of my shop form and yesterday about really building a plan to bring these kids up"

A technician pipeline is how a shop keeps finding and training new mechanics. They’re saying they work with schools and use mentors so new techs can learn the job step by step.

Car

Ford Got Ford

"... you represent a whole host of manufacturers. You got Ford, Subaru, GMC, Stilanus, Mitsubishi. In May of 26,..."
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customer retention

"In May of 26, from your perspective, who's winning in that bid to retain customers and grow service?"

Customer retention means keeping customers from going elsewhere after they buy. Here, they’re talking about which car brands help the dealership get customers to return for service.

Concept

service growth

"who's winning in that bid to retain customers and grow service?"

Service growth means the dealership is doing more work in its service department over time. In practice, it usually comes from having enough technicians and keeping customers coming back.

Term

OEM

"And then who's challenged or provides the greatest opportunity from an OEM standpoint?"

OEM means the car maker itself. They’re asking which brand (the manufacturer) is doing the best job at keeping customers and driving service work.

Brand

Nissan

"And then we've honestly seen that in our Nissan store"

Nissan is a car brand. They’re using it as another example of how their dealership is performing with a specific manufacturer’s customers.

Brand

Subaru

"what lessons do you take from Subaru as an example, as a best practice and share with your other stores? ... they don't treat you as a dealership. They call it a retailer."

Subaru is the car brand being used as an example. The speaker says Subaru runs its stores in a way that feels more like a retail business than a traditional dealership, and that affects how the team works.

Concept

mobile service

"Uh, mobile service. So Ford has been really forward thinking about mobile service. ... So I have a mobile van and an escape at our Holidaysburg Ford store..."

Mobile service means the repair work comes to you instead of you bringing the car to the shop. The speaker talks about using service vans and coordinators to schedule and manage those visits.

Brand

CDJR

"I have a mobile van and an escape at our Holidaysburg Ford store, a van at our Bellfont Ford store, and then a van for CDJR as well."

CDJR is a shorthand used in the auto business for Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, and Ram. The speaker is saying they have mobile service coverage for those brands too.

Car

Ford Escape

"...vice going in 2026? So I have a mobile van and an escape at our Holidaysburg Ford store, a van at our Bell..."

The Ford Escape is a compact SUV. It’s designed for regular driving like commuting and errands, with space for passengers and cargo. The podcast mentions it because it’s a vehicle the dealership has available.

Brand

Ford Pro Elite

"Yeah. So we are building a new Ford pro elite, uh, to replace our Bellfont store."

Ford Pro Elite is a Ford program that helps dealerships organize their commercial service business. Here, they’re saying they’re switching their setup to this Ford program.

Concept

mobile vans

"And, uh, again, we're going to have to have a few more mobile vans, uh, for that. And again, it's, it's worked really well for us."

Mobile vans are service vehicles used to bring dealership service capabilities to customers’ locations. In fixed ops, this can reduce friction for customers and increase repair-order volume by meeting people where they are.

Term

MPS scores

"Honestly, I kind of have three. So I would say, uh, RO growth, uh, where we're at there, gross profit in terms of where we're trending for the month, and then also MPS scores."

MPS scores are customer satisfaction ratings for the service experience. Higher scores generally mean customers felt they were taken care of well.

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gross profit

"You can, you can have, uh, great sales numbers and, and low gross and stock and pay the bills. What's the one metric you are continually looking at as a leader across multiple stores in fixed ops?"

Gross profit is basically how much money is left after paying the direct costs tied to the work. They’re saying you can sell a lot but still not make much profit.

Term

RO growth

"Honestly, I kind of have three. So I would say, uh, RO growth, uh, where we're at there, gross profit in terms of where we're trending for the month, and then also MPS scores."

In service-department terms, “RO” usually means repair orders. “RO growth” means they’re trying to get more repair work coming in over time.

Term

customer pay

"We're shooting for just customer pay. We're shooting for 10% growth every month. Okay. And what's one process?"

“Customer pay” means the customer is paying for the service work themselves. It’s different from work that’s covered by warranty or other programs.

Concept

sales to service intro

"So one thing that I think has helped us a lot is really, really putting the focus around the sales to service intro. Again, our sales team does an awesome job. We sell a lot of cars every single month."

It’s a dealership habit of setting up the customer for their next service visit right after they buy the car. Instead of the customer showing up “cold,” they meet the service team first, so coming back is smoother.

Term

FNI managers

"FNI managers make promises that service ends up keeping. You're in a unique seat. You could speak to finance managers everywhere."

This is likely a shorthand for the finance-and-insurance team at a dealership. They handle the paperwork and add-on plans sold with the car, and those plans can connect to what the service department later does.

Term

vehicle service contract

"again, the finance managers when, when we're selling a server's contract, again, talking about the, uh, needing to have your maintenance records, right?"

A vehicle service contract is like an add-on plan that helps pay for certain repairs for a set time or mileage. Whether a repair is covered can depend on records and how the car was maintained.

Term

maintenance records

"again, the finance managers when, when we're selling a server's contract, again, talking about the, uh, needing to have your maintenance records, right? I was talking with Wes, my service director about that this morning."

Maintenance records are the paperwork showing what service was done on the car. For some coverage plans, having those records can be required to get a claim approved.

Term

service advisor

"Yeah. Um, what's the biggest reason a good service advisor quits? Is it pay or a manager in May of 26? I'd have to say manager."

A service advisor is the dealership employee who acts as the customer-facing point person in the service department. They gather vehicle information, explain recommended work, coordinate with technicians, and manage the customer experience during service visits.

Company

CDK

"So one of the statistics we often report on this shows from CDK, and it is that 25% of calls in service go to voicemail and or go to hold,"

CDK is a company that provides software to car dealerships. In this segment, they’re talking about CDK data on how service calls are handled (voicemail and hold times).

Term

BDC

"So we actually have a centralized BDC in our headquarters building, which is where I'm at now. And our BDC manager does an awesome job of tracking that."

BDC means a dealership’s phone-and-lead team. They answer calls, gather info, and help set up appointments—especially for service.

Concept

data cleanse

"Uh, so right now we're not utilizing them. We're in the process of a data cleanse... We got customers responding to the, the AI agent saying, I don't own this car anymore."

A data cleanse means fixing bad or outdated information in the dealership’s computer system. They did it because the AI was telling customers things that weren’t true about their cars.

Company

Impel

"Uh, so right now we're not utilizing them... We were using Impel and it was working well for us, but our, our data was not necessarily clean enough to be able to utilize it to its fullest potential."

Impel is a software tool the dealership was using. They paused it because the information it relied on wasn’t accurate/clean, so customers got wrong answers.

Term

AI agent

"We got customers responding to the, the AI agent saying, I don't own this car anymore. Yeah. I haven't had this car for two years."

An AI agent is a computer program that talks to customers and answers questions. In this case, it gave wrong answers because the dealership’s information about the customer’s car wasn’t up to date.

Term

DMS switch

"Uh, we are in the process of vetting a couple of different, uh, companies right now. Uh, before we make our, our DMS switch here in September... We're switching to Techian."

A DMS is the dealership’s main computer system for managing customers and service work. Switching it is a big change, so dealerships often clean their data first to avoid problems.

Company

Techian

"Uh, before we make our, our DMS switch here in September... We're switching to Techian."

Techian is the company they plan to use for their dealership computer system. Switching systems can change how the dealership runs service and manages customer info.

Term

onboarding process

"we're just taking little bites at a time, trying to, trying to work through all the onboarding process and we're excited."

The onboarding process is the structured rollout plan used to get staff and systems up to speed after a change. In a dealership context, onboarding often includes training, workflow adjustments, and validating that the new software behaves correctly for each department.

Term

CRM transition

"We did a CRM transition with Dennis Gingrich, Neville Auto Group Sacramento, and he gave us an in the week, you know, he gave us a behind the scenes look at what that transition looked like."

A CRM transition refers to moving from one customer relationship management platform to another. In dealerships, CRM systems track leads, customer interactions, and follow-ups, so switching platforms can disrupt sales and service communication unless data migration is handled carefully.

Term

cleansing data

"And I appreciate Spencer's perspective too on cleansing data. And the need for that, especially as you start to engage with AI, um, and Impel's got a great tool, but you can engage. And if it's not clean data, you're reaching out to"

Data cleansing is the process of correcting or removing inaccurate, incomplete, or duplicate records before using them in operations or analytics. The hosts connect it to AI engagement: if the underlying customer/service data is messy, AI-driven outreach or automation can produce worse results.

Company

Zurich

"let's talk Zurich for a moment. Today's episode is brought to you by Zurich dealers want to win... Zurich pairs proven FNI processes... and risk management solutions."

Zurich is an insurance company. They’re sponsoring this episode and talking about how dealers manage risk and protect their long-term business.

Term

FNI processes

"Zurich pairs proven FNI processes with insights driven training, income generating programs, profit participation, and risk management solutions."

FNI is an industry shorthand for the sales-and-finance steps dealers use during a deal. The sponsor is saying they have training and processes to help dealers do that work consistently.

Topic

Techion transition

"we'd love to catch up with him later on the Techion transition. Um, thanks for, uh, the comments in the chat. We've got the automotive retired guy... saying Techion seems to be transitioning to a lot of dealership groups."

They’re talking about a change involving Techion and how it impacts dealership groups. It’s the kind of shift that can cause concern and lots of attention.

Term

MPI

"Fix stops Friday, all right. Let's talk MPIs. Hey, thanks for the belt. Dan, thank you. Uh, you've built your recent strategy around accountability on that digital MPI."

MPI means Multi-Point Inspection. It’s a checklist-style inspection where the shop looks at several parts of your car and reports what they find. It helps customers understand what needs attention and why.

Term

unexpected costs

"Cox's new study is blunt about why that matters nearly half of vehicle owners, 45% say that they are dissatisfied with dealership service. Usually over unexpected costs and poor communication"

Unexpected costs are repair or service charges you weren’t expecting. If the shop doesn’t explain the findings clearly up front, it can feel like a surprise and hurt trust.

Part

lower control arms

"But then when their vehicles break down and they see the bad where they might need lower control arms or their air filters dirty, it's coming straight from their car"

Lower control arms are parts of your car’s suspension that help hold the wheel in the right position. If they wear out, the car can feel less stable or ride worse. That’s why they show up on inspection reports.

Part

air filters

"But then when their vehicles break down and they see the bad where they might need lower control arms or their air filters dirty, it's coming straight from their car and their response is, wow, how come I never saw this sooner?"

Air filters keep dirt out of the air your car uses. If they get dirty, the car can breathe less easily and may run worse or feel less comfortable. That’s why shops often check them during inspections.

Term

customer perception

"“And then once they see it that way and they see it in the customer perception, they're on board 100%.” “And they understand it now.”"

“Customer perception” is what the customer thinks about the service they received. Even if the car is fixed, customers judge how the process felt—like how they were treated and how clear things were.

Term

RO

"“So as you tightened up the accountability behind that process, what metric moved? Did you see an increase in hours per RO in revenue?” “What’s the CSI?”"

An RO is the service “paperwork” for a customer’s car—basically the ticket that starts the repair job and tracks what gets done. It’s what the shop uses to organize labor and parts for that visit.

Term

hours per RO

"“So as you tightened up the accountability behind that process, what metric moved? Did you see an increase in hours per RO in revenue?” “Hours per RO jumped up tremendously.”"

“Hours per RO” means how many work hours the shop generates for each repair job ticket. If that number goes up, it usually means the shop is getting more labor time out of each job—often due to better workflow or more complete job scoping.

Term

CSI

"“So as you tightened up the accountability behind that process, what metric moved? Did you see an increase in hours per RO in revenue? What’s the CSI?” “Yeah, so CSI for sure, because now it’s part of our process.”"

CSI is a score that measures how satisfied customers are after they get service. Dealerships track it to see whether their process is working and whether customers feel taken care of.

Term

ASEs

"and then sent them to get certifications. [2897.5s] ASEs, the whole nine."

ASE is a widely recognized certification program for car mechanics. Getting ASE-certified means a technician has proven skills in specific repair areas.

Concept

coaching every opportunity

"But again, it's being in there every day and coaching every opportunity. You know, listening to phone calls and hey, you have that one go."

They’re describing a hands-on training style. Instead of only training once, managers watch real situations and give feedback right after—like after a call or a customer interaction.

Term

go to as our phone system

"What tech are you using to record calls and analyze calls and share that? So we have go to as our phone system."

They’re talking about the dealership’s phone system. It’s used to manage calls and often to record or analyze them so the team can improve.

Term

DMS systems

"Does that give you if if your dealer came to you and said, we're changing DMS systems, what would be going through your mind at the moment?"

DMS systems are the computer software dealerships use to run sales and service. Switching to a new one is a big project because it affects how the whole dealership works day to day.

Brand

Reynolds

"I went from Reynolds to CDK. I had no idea about CDK."

Reynolds is a type of dealership computer system. The point is that the speaker switched from one dealership software to another.

Term

fix stops

"What's one thing the industry needs to stop saying about fix stops because it's flat out wrong Xavier first."

“Fix stops” is a dealership way of talking about the service visit—when a car comes in for repairs. They’re saying the industry uses a certain idea about it that’s not accurate.

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