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Ford, Subaru & Mazda Can't Lower Prices FAST ENOUGH | Episode 1087

Ford, Subaru & Mazda Can't Lower Prices FAST ENOUGH | Episode 1087

CarEdge Live Jun 10, 2026 31 min
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Ford, Subaru, and Mazda pricing gets the spotlight as the hosts argue automakers can’t cut prices fast enough to clear inventory. They cite Ford sales declines, heavy recall pressure, and large “leftover” stock that still won’t move even as incentives rise. Mazda’s slowdown is tied to supply/import decisions and dealer markups above MSRP, while Subaru is framed as an inventory mismatch plus tariff-driven price hikes that outpace perceived value. The discussion leans on CarEdge and Kelley Blue Book data, plus real-world discount examples.

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Brand

Ford

"We've got the latest data on car sales for the month of May, and today we're gonna focus on the five months so far of 2026. [82.8s] Ford sales, Dad, thus far in 2026, [85.7s] down 11.2%. ... [115.9s] When it comes to Ford, that perhaps the amount of recalls"

Ford is a big car company. Here, the hosts are saying Ford’s sales are slipping partly because there have been a lot of recalls, which can make people hesitant and send more owners to the dealership for repairs.

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Mazda

"[88.5s] If I scroll down here, 6.9% decline, that's from Mazda, [92.8s] and 8.3% decline, that's from our friends over at Subaru. [97.5s] These three brands in particular, Dad, [99.3s] have struggled to grow sales year over year."

Mazda is a Japanese car brand. The hosts say Mazda’s sales are falling compared to last year, and they’re treating it as part of the same broader problem affecting a few brands.

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Subaru

"[92.8s] and 8.3% decline, that's from our friends over at Subaru. [97.5s] These three brands in particular, Dad, [99.3s] have struggled to grow sales year over year. [102.0s] What's the story with Ford, Mazda, and Subaru?"

Subaru is a car brand that’s especially known for all-wheel drive. In this segment, the hosts say Subaru’s sales are down compared to last year, along with Ford and Mazda.

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recalls

"[115.9s] When it comes to Ford, that perhaps the amount of recalls [122.0s] that they have had and continue to have [124.8s] is catching up to them to a certain degree. [128.1s] Yes, there are Ford loyalists out there"

A recall is when a car company admits there’s a problem with certain cars and tells owners to get them fixed. The hosts are saying lots of recalls can hurt sales because people may worry about the brand and owners end up spending more time at the dealership for repairs.

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Ford Mustang

"Most models saw their sales decline, including the Mustang, Broncos, Sport Expedition, and the F-Series."

The Ford Mustang is Ford’s famous sports car. They’re saying Mustang sales went down compared with last year, along with several other models.

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Ford Bronco

"including the Mustang, Broncos, Sport Expedition, and the F-Series. The Ford Ranger saw the largest decline of 23.3%. The strong sellers in the Ford lineup, well, it was the Maverick up 10%. And Broncos sales were actually up 5.2%."

The Ford Bronco is Ford’s rugged SUV. They’re saying Bronco sales increased 5.2%, so it’s one of the better-performing models in Ford’s lineup.

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Ford Expedition

"including the Mustang, Broncos, Sport Expedition, and the F-Series. The Ford Ranger saw the larges..."

The Ford Expedition is a large SUV with room for more people, usually including three rows of seats. It’s made for carrying passengers and gear comfortably, especially on longer trips. It often gets mentioned when people talk about big family SUVs.

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Ford Ranger

"including the Mustang, Broncos, Sport Expedition, and the F-Series. The Ford Ranger saw the largest decline of 23.3%."

The Ford Ranger is a pickup truck that’s smaller than Ford’s biggest trucks. They’re saying the Ranger’s sales fell a lot compared with the same time last year, so it’s one of the biggest reasons Ford’s overall numbers look weaker.

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Ford Maverick

"The strong sellers in the Ford lineup, well, it was the Maverick up 10%. And Broncos sales were actually up 5.2%."

The Ford Maverick is a smaller pickup truck from Ford. In this segment, they’re pointing out it’s doing better than most other Ford models, with sales rising 10%.

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Car

Ford Explorer

"And Broncos sales were actually up 5.2%. And Explorer sales were up 8.8%."

The Ford Explorer is a family SUV with multiple rows. They’re saying Explorer sales rose 8.8%, so it’s doing better than many other Ford models in this period.

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leftover vehicles

"I want to look at leftover vehicles, [211.8s] because the story here for Ford,"

“Leftover vehicles” are cars that didn’t sell when they were new. They’re still sitting at dealerships, so the dealer may need to lower the price to move them.

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unsold leftover 2025 new cars

"You can see here, Dad, there are still 132,493 [225.6s] unsold leftover 2025 new cars out there for sale"

This phrase means brand-new cars from the 2025 model year that still haven’t been sold. Dealerships often discount these to get them off the lot.

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Ford Broncos Sports

"Let's get past some of these. I mean, yeah, Broncos, Sports Lightning. I mean, look at this lightning, Dad."

The Ford Bronco Sport is a smaller SUV made for people who want to drive normally but still handle rougher roads. It’s designed to be more capable than a basic city SUV. It’s often mentioned as part of the Bronco family.

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Ford F-150 Lightning

"...past some of these. I mean, yeah, Broncos, Sports Lightning. I mean, look at this lightning, Dad."

The Ford F-150 Lightning is a pickup truck that runs on electricity instead of gasoline. It’s meant to do the same kind of truck jobs, but with an electric motor. People bring it up because it’s Ford’s electric truck.

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Ford F-Series pickup truck

"This is the Ford problem in a nutshell right here. [257.6s] $74,000 MSRP of a discontinued F-Series pickup truck"

The Ford F-Series is Ford’s main line of big pickup trucks. In this segment, they’re saying a discontinued F-Series truck is still not selling, so dealers have to cut the price a lot.

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discount

"$74,000 MSRP of a discontinued F-Series pickup truck [263.2s] that now the dealer is having to advertise [265.3s] with a $13,464 discount."

A “discount” here means an advertised price reduction from MSRP to encourage buyers to purchase a vehicle that isn’t moving. In dealer inventory situations, discounts are often the fastest lever to reduce the number of unsold cars on lots.

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264 days

"And it's still too expensive, [270.5s] and it's still not selling even after 264 days."

“264 days” means the car has been on the lot for a long time without selling. When cars sit that long, dealers usually have to lower the price to attract buyers.

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Ford Get Ford

"... sales reps and to the dealer council and try and get Ford to step up to some degree. But I just, I just don..."
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leftover inventory

"yes, to your point, it's dealers who are sitting on that leftover inventory, but an example here of some of the insights that we get to see."

It means the dealership still has cars that haven’t sold yet. If those cars sit too long, the dealer usually has to lower the price or offer incentives to sell them before newer models show up.

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on the lot

"I pulled them up on the Car Edge dealer review platform and I scroll down to their on the lot right now, section of their page. They still have plenty of 2025 vehicles, plenty of vehicles."

“On the lot” just means the cars are sitting at the dealership waiting to be sold. If they stay there too long, the dealer often needs to reduce the price to get them moving.

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inventory has been sitting on their lot for over 180 days

"They still have plenty of 2025 vehicles, plenty of vehicles. 37% of their inventory has been sitting on their lot for over 180 days."

This is basically how long the cars have been unsold at the dealership. If it’s been about six months or more, the dealer usually feels pressure to lower prices or offer deals to sell them.

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clearance cells

"I think Ford is uniquely positioned right now to offer some clearance cells. There's got to be some big, big, big discounts on the horizon for those 50,000 leftover cars, trucks, pickups."

This is basically a clearance sale. It means the dealer or manufacturer is trying to sell older cars for less money so they don’t keep sitting on the lot.

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big final payment

"Well, what's the alternative? A big final payment that Ford's going to give to the dealer for the remaining 2025s and 2024s that are sitting on their lot."

They’re talking about a large payment from Ford to the dealer to help them get rid of cars that didn’t sell. It’s like the manufacturer helping cover the cost so the dealer can move on to newer cars.

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Car

Dodge Charger

"...over from Jim Glover, what was it? It was a Dodge Charger? Charger of some kind."

The Dodge Charger is a large car (a sedan) made by Dodge. It’s usually built for more power and a sportier feel than a typical family car. People mention it because it’s a well-known model name.

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Car

Mazda Cx5

"Where have they struggled? I don't know that the new CX-5 was coming out. Maybe they were in relatively short supply."

The Mazda CX-5 is a popular Mazda SUV. The hosts are saying that when the CX-5 is (or isn’t) ready in enough numbers, it can change how well Mazda sells month to month.

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Car

Mazda Cx30S

"They cut back on the amount of CX-30s that they brought into the country, because those are manufactured in Mexico, and they were hoping that the CX-70s and the CX-90s would pick up the slack,"

The Mazda CX-30 is a smaller Mazda SUV. The hosts are saying Mazda sent fewer CX-30s than planned, which can happen when production or shipping plans change.

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Mazda CX-90

"and they were hoping that the CX-70s and the CX-90s would pick up the slack, which initially during the first part of the year they did not,"

The Mazda CX-90 is a bigger, family-oriented Mazda SUV with extra seating. The hosts are saying Mazda expected it to sell well, but it took time to show up in the sales numbers.

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Car

Mazda Cx50

"and they were counting on the CX-50 to take off a little bit more in the hybrid mode. And apparently, some of those things started coming together in May."

The Mazda CX-50 is a compact SUV model. The hosts are saying Mazda expected the CX-50 to sell better once the hybrid version was really rolling out.

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hybrid mode

"and they were counting on the CX-50 to take off a little bit more in the hybrid mode. And apparently, some of those things started coming together in May."

A hybrid uses both a gas engine and an electric motor. Here, the hosts mean Mazda expected the hybrid version of the CX-50 to help sales once it was available in meaningful numbers.

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MSRP

"So, can they or will they continue to incentivize sales the way they need to? I don't know, but it seems to me, typically you can go and look at a Mazda and get somewhere between 6% and 10% off of MSRP most of the time."

MSRP is the price on the car’s window sticker that the manufacturer sets. If a dealer offers “off MSRP,” it means they’re selling it for less than that sticker price.

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Mazda Cx70S

"Now, although their sales, like you said, in May, did bounce back a little bit. Leon's saying CX-70s and CX-90s are well over $50,000. Here's an example. The CX-5 is their big seller, and you can see here, this is just in the Maryland area,"

The Mazda CX-70 is a bigger SUV than the CX-5. It’s made for people who want more space and a higher-end price point. It often comes up when Mazda’s newer, larger SUVs are discussed.

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days supply

"The CX-5 is their big seller, and you can see here, this is just in the Maryland area, 119 days supply of this particular CX-5, which to be clear here, this is the CX-5 2.5S Premium Plus."

“Days supply” is an inventory metric that estimates how long current stock would last at the current sales pace. A higher days-supply number generally suggests slower sales or excess inventory, which can pressure pricing and incentives.

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dealer processing charge

"and then actually, kudos to this dealership, dealer processing charge being explicitly called out here is good transparency, and then reminding us it's also not required by law as good transparency."

A dealer processing charge is an extra fee the dealership adds on top of the car’s price. The hosts are saying it should be clearly listed, and that it may not be something you’re legally required to pay.

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Car

Toyota RAV4

"...re not selling a Toyota here. Okay, this is not a RAV4 hybrid that you're selling. You're selling a Mazd..."

The Toyota RAV4 is a compact SUV that’s made for everyday driving. It’s popular partly because it can come in different versions, including hybrid models. In the conversation, it’s mentioned to point out that the car being discussed isn’t a RAV4 hybrid.

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Concept

inventory problem

"Subaru sales that have been off significantly, maybe a little bit more of the story that Subaru is an inventory problem, like Subaru doesn't have the right inventory here in the United States."

An inventory problem means dealers don’t have the right cars in stock for what people want to buy. So even if people are interested, sales can still drop because the cars aren’t there.

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Subaru Uncharted

"Subaru has launched two new products here in the United States that most people probably don't know about, which would be two new EVs, the Uncharted and the Trailseeker."

The Subaru Uncharted is an electric vehicle model Subaru is talking about. The host mentions it to explain why Subaru’s EV lineup is bigger than many shoppers realize.

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Subaru Trailseeker

"Subaru has launched two new products here in the United States that most people probably don't know about, which would be two new EVs, the Uncharted and the Trailseeker."

The Subaru Trailseeker is an electric vehicle model Subaru is adding. The host brings it up to show Subaru has multiple EVs, not just one.

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EVs

"Subaru has launched two new products here in the United States that most people probably don't know about, which would be two new EVs, the Uncharted and the Trailseeker."

EVs are electric cars that run on electricity stored in a battery. The host is talking about Subaru’s electric models and how many people may not realize they exist.

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Solterra Soltera

"Like, I don't think most people know that the Subaru lineup has three EVs in it, the Soltera, the Uncharted, and the Trailseeker."

The Subaru Solterra is Subaru’s electric vehicle. The host lists it to show Subaru has more than one EV model in its lineup.

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tariffs

"They were one of the first of the automakers to announce rather sizable price increases due to the tariffs and to the increase in tariffs."

Tariffs are extra taxes on imported products. If car parts cost more because of tariffs, the final car price often goes up too.

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Subaru Outback

"And so, I look at the new updated Outback. And to me, it's just as fuggly as an Outback as a purported SUV can get. I mean, to me, it's hideous."

The Subaru Outback is a popular Subaru that’s built to feel rugged and capable, with all-wheel drive. Here, the host is talking about the newer version and how people react to its looks—some love it, others don’t.

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Concept

inventory story

"So maybe the Subaru story actually is an inventory story, different than Ford and Mazda. It seems like Ford, the inventory story is actually the inverse of Subaru."

An “inventory story” is basically about stock levels. If a dealer doesn’t have enough cars to meet what people want, prices and sales patterns can look different than when there are lots of cars sitting around.

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Subaru Forester

"But Subaru did increase prices significantly for the Forester, for example, and did run into some speed bumps and challenges this year to grow their business."

The Subaru Forester is a compact SUV/crossover that’s popular for being practical and for having all-wheel drive. The host uses it as an example of Subaru raising prices and running into challenges afterward.

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Concept

price out your loyal customer base

"I mean, you can only raise your prices so much before you start to price out your loyal customer base."

This means raising prices so much that even people who really like the brand decide not to buy. At some point, the higher cost stops being worth it for loyal customers.

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Stalantis

"This isn't the first brand we've seen that with. We watched that happen with the Stalantis for many of their products."

This is a reference to Stellantis, a big car company that owns multiple brands. The host is saying other automakers have tried price increases too, and it can change how customers buy.

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bang for the buck

"is that they're relatively inexpensive for what you get. There is a lot of bang for the buck with a Subaru."

“Bang for the buck” is a value concept: it means customers feel they’re getting more features, quality, or capability per dollar. The hosts argue that Subaru’s pricing changes are eroding that perceived value for its loyal customer base.

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dealer's had at 132 days

"The MSRP is nearly $50,000. You can see it right there. $49,507 this dealer's had at 132 days."

This is how long the car has been sitting at the dealership without being sold. If it’s been there a long time, the dealer may be more willing to lower the price.

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Dodge Ram

"... take a dive, a deep dive into a Jeep and perhaps Ram. You know, we haven't done those in a while. I kn..."

A Dodge Ram is a pickup truck, meaning it has an open bed for hauling things. People choose it for tasks like towing and carrying cargo. It’s mentioned because it’s a well-known truck model line.

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