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From Tech to Service Advisor: Training, & Shop Leadership with Cody Kirkenester

From Tech to Service Advisor: Training, & Shop Leadership with Cody Kirkenester

The Jaded Mechanic Podcast Jun 09, 2026 69 min
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About this episode

Cody Kirkenester walks through his shift from diagnostics technician to service writer and shop leadership at Faidley’s Auto Masters, including how he started by “putting estimates together and making phone calls.” The conversation connects training and shop culture to better diagnostics, from using wiring diagrams and oscilloscope-first thinking to handling intermittent electrical faults. Hosts also dig into service-advisor communication, customer trust, and setting realistic expectations—plus why pricing, OE parts, and navigating the Right to Repair Act matter for recruiting the next generation.

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Car

Toyota Paseo

" [230.0s] first car? [231.0s] It was a '93 Toyota Paseo. Oh, wow. Right on. There ain't many of them left anymore- Oh ... but, um, yeah, it was just what I had at the time."

A Toyota Paseo is a small Toyota from the 1990s. It’s the kind of car people often modify, and in this story it’s the first car that got the speaker interested in working on cars.

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fluid services

" [286.0s] and go to college half a day to, basically college classes, and I took a automotive technology class. Um, you know, starting to do basic things. The, the class at that time was very... We had, like, three cars. [286.0s] Yeah ... [300.0s] We had, like, an old Dodge Neon, an old Dodge pickup truck, and a, like, a Plymouth Claim, like K car- Right. Yeah ... or something, you know. Yeah, yeah. And just learned the basic stuff, brakes, you know, oil changes, fluid services, stuff like that."

“Fluid services” means changing or checking the car’s important liquids. These services help the car run smoothly and prevent parts from wearing out too fast.

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Dodge Neon

" [286.0s] Yeah ... [300.0s] We had, like, an old Dodge Neon, an old Dodge pickup truck, and a, like, a Plymouth Claim, like K car- Right. Yeah ... or something, you know. Yeah, yeah. And just learned the basic stuff, brakes, you know, oil changes, fluid services, stuff like that."

The Dodge Neon is a small Dodge from the past that’s fairly common. In this episode, it’s just one of the cars the speaker’s school used to teach basic repairs.

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Company

Monroe

"left there, spent three years at a, a Monroe, which is, like, a chain type- Yeah ... type shop."

Monroe is mentioned as the name of a chain shop the speaker worked at. Chain shops usually have more standardized processes than one-off independent garages.

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suspension-type work

"Yeah. I, I did a little bit more, you know, like suspension-type work. Okay."

Suspension work means fixing the parts that help the car ride smoothly and keep the wheels planted on the road. It usually involves things like shocks/struts and other parts that affect steering and tire wear.

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diagnostics

"Um, but I wanted to learn diagnostics. That was always kind of my thing that I was always interested in and- Good"

Diagnostics is how a mechanic figures out what’s actually wrong with the car. It’s more than guessing—it uses tests and readings to find the real cause before fixing it.

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inspection license

"Um, you know, I had my inspection license by then. I was doing inspections."

An inspection license is permission to do the official checks required by your state for things like safety (and sometimes emissions). It lets a shop or technician perform those inspections and sign off on them.

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check engine light

"for you, man um, they didn't get into much, like, check engine light stuff- Yeah ... and you know how that goes."

The check engine light comes on when the car’s computer finds a problem. A scan tool can read stored codes to help figure out what’s wrong.

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Company

Faidley's

"Um, Faidley's had an opportunity. They called, called me up. They were looking for a guy."

Faidley's is the shop the speaker got hired by. They describe it as a well-known local place that had been around for a long time.

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pre... That was always

"Yeah. Yeah, I got into that pre... That was always, like, something that I enjoyed doing- Mm-hmm ... and people tell me I'm crazy for doing, you"

The transcript cuts off mid-sentence, so we can’t tell what specific car-related idea he was referring to. If you share the next line, I can identify and explain the exact term.

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tie rod

"but you and I have seen lots of cars where they're on the side of the road with the tie rod b- broke off- or the brakes are completely hammered."

A tie rod is part of the steering system that connects components so the wheels turn when you steer. If it breaks, the car may not steer correctly and can be stuck or dangerous to drive.

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brakes

"or the brakes are completely hammered. Yeah. Yeah. But if they can't start it, they can't even get to that point of the crash- Yeah ... you know what I mean? So-"

He’s talking about the braking system being in really bad shape. The exact part that’s worn or failed isn’t specified in this clip.

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ABS communication issue

"Yeah. One of... I, I had, I had a van, I think it was like an E 250 or 350 Ford Econoline van. Yeah. You know, that was really- I- i- it was, it had ABS communication issue."

ABS is the system that helps prevent wheel lock-up during hard braking. A “communication issue” means the ABS computer can’t properly talk to its sensors or other vehicle systems, often because of a bad wire or connector.

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Ford Econoline van

"Yeah. One of... I, I had, I had a van, I think it was like an E 250 or 350 Ford Econoline van. Yeah. You know, that was really- I- i- it was, it had ABS communication issue."

A Ford Econoline van is a common work van. Here, it’s important because it had a problem with the ABS system’s communication, and the speaker figured out it was caused by a bad connection.

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lab scope

"And, you know, as I started to sort my way through that, you know, trying different things, I, I was pretty new to a lab scope then. Yeah. Um, you know, I ended up scoping the cam lines, find- you know, finding out that there was a bad connection at the module with, with one of the communication lines."

A lab scope is a tool that lets you “see” electrical signals as waveforms. Mechanics use it to figure out whether a sensor or wiring signal is actually working, not just guessing from symptoms.

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scoping the cam lines

"Um, you know, I ended up scoping the cam lines, find- you know, finding out that there was a bad connection at the module with, with one of the communication lines."

“Scoping” means using the electrical test tool to check what’s happening in the wiring. They checked the cam-related signals and found the problem wasn’t the car’s logic—it was a bad connection at the module.

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corrosion

"Popped the, uh, connector off, see... You know, find corrosion in it, which was common on, you know, fairly common on those. After- Mm-hmm ... after I found that one, we started to see more of them."

Corrosion is buildup on metal contacts that can stop electricity from flowing reliably. If it’s on a connector, the car may work sometimes and fail other times.

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connector

"Popped the, uh, connector off, see... You know, find corrosion in it, which was common on, you know, fairly common on those."

A connector is the plug-and-socket interface that links wiring to a sensor or control module. When connectors develop corrosion or looseness, they can cause intermittent electrical faults—exactly the kind of behavior the speaker described with the ABS communication problem.

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Corvette

"[1032.0s] Like, do you really enjoy them or does it kinda- [1036.0s] Um- [1037.0s] They're challenging ..."

A Corvette is a high-performance sports car from Chevrolet. The speaker is saying that while they’re fun to drive, some older Corvettes can be tough to fix because the suspension design makes the work more complicated.

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leaf springs

"[1052.0s] and there's leaf springs and you're fighting them and - Yeah ... the car's wanting to lift off the lift and all that- Yeah ... stuff, you know."

Leaf springs are a suspension part that helps support the car and smooth out bumps. On older cars, they can be harder to work with because they’re bulky and require more effort to remove, position, and reinstall correctly.

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lift off the lift

"[1052.0s] and there's leaf springs and you're fighting them and - Yeah ... the car's wanting to lift off the lift and all that- Yeah ... stuff, you know."

This is basically a safety problem: when the car is on a lift, it can shift or move unexpectedly. The speaker is saying that certain suspension work can cause the car to want to move before everything is properly supported.

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Deloreans

"... and, you know, I've, I've had chances to work on DeLoreans and like- Really? odd things like that- Yeah ... ..."

The DeLorean DMC-12 is a sports car with a very unusual look, including a stainless-steel body. It’s not a common car, so working on it can be more specialized. That’s why mechanics may mention it when they’ve had the chance to work on one.

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service information

"[1097.0s] Cause we never, I mean, most of us I think in the industry, right, if it's built right, we don't mind. [1101.0s] Mm-hmm. [1103.0s] It's just gotta be built right and, and you know, again, and then having the proper service information, that's key."

Service information is the repair manual-style guidance technicians use. It includes the right steps and specs (like what to tighten and in what order), which helps prevent mistakes and makes repairs go correctly.

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torque

"[1129.0s] Yeah. [1130.0s] Mercedes is not, where you can't get a torque- Yeah ... on there too, right? That's true. But at least on a Mercedes I can get a wheel nut torque. [1135.0s] Yeah."

Torque here means the exact tightening spec for a bolt or wheel fastener. Using the correct torque helps keep parts secure and prevents damage from being too loose or too tight.

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billed right

"I always enjoyed challenges if it was billed right and I had service information. I wasn't expected to work miracles for pennies, right?"

“Billed right” means the job is written up and charged in a way that matches the actual work required, often using the shop’s labor guide and the manufacturer’s procedures. In service-advisor conversations, getting billing aligned with the real repair scope helps avoid underpaying the technician for the time and diagnostics needed.

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Protoman

"On a, on a, on a Tesla they don't even have that listed in Protoman, and that just- Mm ... frustrates me."

“Protoman” sounds like a computer system shops use to look up repair or service details for cars. The speaker is saying that for a Tesla, it didn’t have what they needed listed.

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Cody Kirkenester

"Mm-hmm. And I, I always was, like, on the fence. I think you can teach the aptitude..."

Cody Kirkenester is the guest in this episode. In this part, he’s talking about how training and modern car technology can help people learn and get excited about working in shops.

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wiring diagram

"but man, you put, like, data in front of them or you put, like, a wiring diagram in front of them and they're, like, off- Yeah"

A wiring diagram is like a map of the car’s electrical system. It shows which parts are connected and how, so you can track down where a problem might be.

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OBD2

"technology started changing from- Yeah ... like OBD1 to OBD2 was like, "Oh my God, what are we gonna do?""

OBD2 is the newer “car computer diagnostics” standard. When something goes wrong, it can store codes that a scan tool can read, making it easier for a shop to figure out what’s happening.

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OBD1

"technology started changing from- Yeah ... like OBD1 to OBD2 was like, "Oh my God, what are we gonna do?""

OBD1 is an early computer system in cars that can notice when something is wrong with the engine or emissions. It’s older than today’s systems and usually gives less detailed information to mechanics.

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Topic

training events

"we brought them to Tools last year, um, and it was a, it was a, it was like a eye-opening experience, you know? [1388.0s] Yeah. We explained to them what, what it was going to these events, like the training."

They’re talking about how hands-on training events help people learn faster. Instead of just hearing about tools online, trainees get to see and experience it in real life.

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Check Engine Chuck

"they follow guys on social media- Yeah [1410.0s] stuff like that, and they're like, "Oh my God, that's Check Engine Chuck," or something."

“Check Engine Chuck” is a fun name for an automotive content creator who talks about the check-engine light. That light comes on when the car’s computer finds a problem and stores a diagnostic code.

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Stacey David

"That was, like, the coolest thing in the world to me. Yeah. Like, that was like 16-year-old me meeting one of the guys like Stacey David or something, right?"

Stacey David is a famous car personality from TV and automotive media. The host is basically saying he grew up looking up to guys like him, but now younger people are inspired by newer diagnostic-focused creators.

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Scanner Danner

"[1497.0s] Yeah. Yeah, I spent years and years watching Scanner Danner- Yeah [1500.0s] videos, and, um, m- the, one of the head techs I learned a lot from at Faileys,"

Scanner Danner is a car YouTuber who focuses on diagnosing problems. The host says they watched his videos to learn how to troubleshoot cars more effectively.

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diagnostic tech

"he, you know, he was, like, the shop foreman and very good diagnostic tech. Yeah. I mean, I learned so much from him."

A diagnostic tech is a technician focused on troubleshooting—figuring out what’s wrong by interpreting symptoms, codes, and test results. In the segment, the speaker credits a shop foreman for teaching diagnostic skills.

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diag videos

"just at night and for an hour just watch videos- Yeah ... o- of Scanner Danner, like, diag videos and, and just do that, like, every other day throughout- Yeah ... the week"

“Diag videos” are troubleshooting videos for cars. They show how someone figures out what’s wrong and what tests they do, step by step.

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Keith Perkins

"But the reality is, is, like, I watched a case study yesterday with Keith Perkins. [1622.0s] Mm-hmm."

Keith Perkins is mentioned as someone who did a detailed “case study” showing how a problem was diagnosed. The speaker uses it to explain that other people have found the same cause and documented it online.

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TPMS sensor

"It's a, it's a TPMS sensor causing the- [1644.0s] uh, network to wake up and cause a parasitic drain."

TPMS means your car’s tire-pressure monitoring system. The TPMS sensor is a small device in/near the tire that checks tire pressure and reports it to the car. Here, they’re saying that sensor can cause a battery-draining electrical problem.

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parasitic drain

"[1644.0s] uh, network to wake up and cause a parasitic drain. [1644.0s] Mm-hmm ..."

A parasitic drain is when something in the car keeps using power even after you turn it off. Over time, that can flatten your battery. In this story, a sensor is waking up the car’s systems and causing that drain.

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shop labor rate / "door rate"

"There's too many people that get online and go, "I can't believe they charge $200 an hour." ... Everybody's just losing their minds over, "I can't believe the door rate costs this much money." Look at what it costs to run a shop."

A shop labor rate is what the shop charges per hour for labor. That hourly charge isn’t the same as what the mechanic takes home—shops also pay for tools, training, and running the building. The point here is that the rate has to cover real costs, not just wages.

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skills gap

"If we want to fix the skills gap, we have to show them that you're not gonna come in and, and earn $10 an hour changing oil..."

The skills gap means there aren’t enough well-trained auto mechanics. The host says shops need to show new technicians that training leads to a real career with better pay, otherwise they won’t want to learn. Training is treated like a step-by-step plan, not extra homework.

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technician tooling investment

"...we're gonna expect you to buy $50,000 tools in five years- Mm ... and, and still by then you, you're making $13."

“Tooling” here means the specialized equipment and tools technicians need to do modern repairs. The host argues that shops expect technicians to invest in expensive tooling over time, and that training and events also cost money. This is used to justify higher labor rates and a structured training plan.

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mandatory training

"Here's the process to get there. Here's what's gonna be required of you. Here's the mandatory training you're gonna have to take."

“Mandatory training” is required instruction a shop sets for technicians to keep up with evolving repair procedures and diagnostic methods. The host emphasizes that once technicians are enrolled and the plan is clear, it’s usually not hard to get them to take training. They also connect training participation to shop culture and leadership.

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bay

"You used to take care of it out in the bay, but now, okay, he's at the counter."

The “bay” is the garage area where the car is brought in for repairs. The counter is where customers talk to the shop staff before the car goes back to be worked on.

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Service Advisor

"And so people that are listening, when you're thinking about, like, do you have a technician, and you sit there and you shake your head, and, "Oh, I don't have any techs that ever make a Service Advisor," think about that little, that little reality for a second."

A Service Advisor is the person at a car repair shop who talks to you about what’s wrong with your car. They explain the diagnosis, help you understand the options, and keep things moving with the technicians.

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transmission

"and, and it comes in and needs a transmission or- Mm-hmm ... it needs an engine, or, you know, that's, that's hard to deal with, you know."

The transmission is what helps your car shift gears and transfer power to the wheels. If someone says it needs a transmission, it often means a big repair that can be expensive and complicated.

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kilometers

"oh, shoot, like how many kilometers are on it? Is... or- Yeah ... it's my Canadian coming out, right? How s- how many miles are on it?"

Kilometers are how distance is measured on the car’s odometer in some countries. The speaker is saying they look at how many kilometers are on the car to judge how much it’s been used.

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miles

"it's my Canadian coming out, right? How s- how many miles are on it? And you're like, "Oh, it's got 120,000 miles on it. Ooh, all right."

Miles are how distance is measured on the car’s odometer in some countries. The speaker is saying they check the number of miles to estimate how used the car is.

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Chevrolet Silverado

"[2645.0s] You got a Silverado, right, expect at some point- Mm-hmm [2647.0s] you might have a transmission issue. Yeah."

The Chevrolet Silverado is a common pickup truck. The point here is that, over time, even popular trucks can develop expensive problems—like transmission problems.

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turbos

"[2647.0s] you got a Ford, uh, Eco anything, you might be putting some turbos in it at some point- Yeah ..."

A turbocharger is a device that helps the engine make more power. The host is saying that turbos can wear out or fail, and fixing them can get expensive.

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Volkswagen

"[2655.0s] You got a Volkswagen, like, it's gonna leak oil constantly. [2662.0s] Like, it's gonna- Yeah ... burn oil if it ain't leaking it. Like, it might even do both."

Volkswagen is used here as a shorthand example of a brand that, in the host’s experience, tends to have oil-leak and oil-consumption issues. The segment contrasts leaking oil with burning oil, emphasizing that modern cars can have multiple oil-related failure modes.

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fuel injection service

"[2687.0s] or, you know, nobody ever probably did a fuel injection service- Yeah [2687.0s] or, you know. And now it's a, it's a critical part of keeping some of these complaints-"

Fuel injection is how a car delivers fuel to the engine. A fuel injection service is maintenance that helps keep that system working correctly so the car doesn’t start acting up.

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CVTs

"Um, you know, Nissans, y- you know, they had the CVTs and those things that, you know- Yeah ... um, I try to steer customers away, you know, from them. [2783.0s] ...and CVT, like, it'd be, it'd be crazy to say that only Nissan have CVT problems."

A CVT is a type of automatic transmission that can “shift” smoothly without distinct gears. Some CVTs are known for reliability problems, so the shop advisor is warning customers and trying to set expectations.

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Nissan Rogue

"Like, I mean, and that, and that's the thing. Like, I talk about the Rogue all the time. Like, the, where the Rogue came from to where it is now is crazy how many of them you see on the road."

The Nissan Rogue is a common SUV you’ll see everywhere. The speaker brings it up because it’s so widespread—especially from rental/fleet use—so it shows up a lot in the shop.

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Nissan Altima

"...ot of it is, like, people talk about that and the Altima, and it's like, well, they're former rental fleet..."

The Nissan Altima is a regular everyday sedan meant for commuting and family use. It’s been used a lot as a rental or fleet car, which means it can accumulate miles fast. Because of that, people often talk about how it holds up and what repairs tend to show up.

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Murphy's Law

"We have to get these people, um, like you said, expecting that, you know, if you keep it long enough- Mm-hmm ... Murphy's Law says this probably will happen."

Murphy’s Law is the saying that if something bad can happen, it probably will. Here, the advisor is basically telling customers that even with maintenance, problems can still show up later.

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selling maintenance

"And, uh, and that's what I say is there's nothing wrong with selling maintenance to a customer, as long as you're clear that if it's already slipping, it probably won't fix it."

They’re talking about being honest when you recommend service. Maintenance can help prevent problems, but if something is already starting to fail, it may not fully correct it.

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expected outcome

"Or, but we cannot any longer just say, "Okay, yep, that'll be $199" and not have a conversation with the customer. You gotta ask them, "What's your expected outcome?""

It means you ask what the customer is hoping will happen after the repair. That way you can diagnose and explain the real problem instead of just guessing what they think it is.

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misfire

"No, and you go and drive it, it's a misfire. Mm-hmm. Right? Yeah. It's going down the road, it's, it feels like a"

A misfire means one of the engine’s cylinders isn’t burning the fuel correctly. The car can run rough or feel weak, and the computer may log a code that points you toward the wrong problem at first.

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OE part

"Um- And it's gonna cost more. [2925.0s] We're gonna put an OE part on it. [2925.0s] Yeah. [2927.0s] But you're not gonna have to come back and-"

An OE part is the “manufacturer-spec” replacement part for your car. It’s meant to match the original part more closely than cheaper alternatives, which can help avoid problems coming back.

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vent solenoid

"try another vent solenoid or purge solenoid- Yeah ... or another TP, TP a- uh, I almost said TPS."

A vent solenoid is a small electrically controlled valve. It helps manage fuel vapors and airflow so the car’s emissions system works the way it’s supposed to.

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purge solenoid

"try another vent solenoid or purge solenoid- Yeah ... or another TP, TP a- uh, I almost said TPS."

A purge solenoid is a valve controlled by electricity. It opens to pull fuel vapors from the charcoal canister into the engine to be burned.

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TPS

"or another TP, TP a- uh, I almost said TPS. TPS, yeah, throttle position sensor- Mm-hmm ... which they don't even really use anymore, but you know what I mean."

TPS means throttle position sensor. It tells the car’s computer how open the throttle is so it can manage fueling and engine response.

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OE one

"we finally get the OE one, right? Like-"

“OE” means the original factory part. It’s the same type of part the car was built with, and it’s often the safest choice when aftermarket options don’t match.

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aftermarket

"But there's nothing in the aftermarket, you know? There's workarounds for some of these modules that if you wanna make the"

“Aftermarket” parts are made by companies other than the car’s original manufacturer. Sometimes they fit and work great, but other times they’re not available or not compatible with certain cars.

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ABS module

"Oh, Ivan from Pine Hollow. ... a 10-year-old, uh, Chrysler Stellantis product- Yeah ... needs an ABS module. Not even supported from the dealer anymore. Yeah. Can't get it."

The ABS module is the computer that controls the anti-lock brakes. It’s responsible for preventing wheel lockup during hard braking, and if it can’t be sourced, fixing the car can be a real challenge.

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EEPROM

"They say you can't use a used one, but you can Mm-hmm ... right? EEPROM and all that kind of stuff."

EEPROM is a small memory chip that keeps important settings even when the car is off. If you swap or reuse certain modules, that stored information may have to be copied or programmed so the car works with it.

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DVOM

"Like, what used to be a DVOM was an advanced tool for some of us coming up- [3405.0s] is now, like, these young kids now, it's not even a DVOM."

DVOM is a basic electrical testing tool. Mechanics use it to check things like whether power is present, whether a wire is broken, or whether a component has the right resistance.

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oscilloscope

"Mm-hmm. It's the oscilloscope that they should be picking up first. [3411.0s] Yeah. [3411.0s] You know? Yeah."

An oscilloscope is a tool that shows electrical signals as a graph. Instead of just saying “voltage is there,” it helps you see how the signal changes, which is crucial for diagnosing tricky electrical problems.

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ChatGPT

"And then talk into your phone, ChatGPT, "How do I set this up?" [3416.0s] Yeah. [3416.0s] And then ChatGPT gives the answers back, and it's like, holy mother."

ChatGPT is an AI assistant you can ask questions. In this conversation, it’s used to get quick guidance on how to set up and use diagnostic tools.

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waveform

"there's so much. Show me a waveform. Show me a known good. There you go. [3421.0s] Yeah ..."

A waveform is the visual shape of an electrical signal as it changes over time. When diagnosing cars, waveform patterns can reveal problems like signal dropouts, noise, or incorrect sensor/actuator behavior.

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known good

"there's so much. Show me a waveform. Show me a known good. There you go. [3421.0s] Yeah ..."

A “known good” is a reference point that you trust is correct. Mechanics compare what they’re seeing now to that trusted example to figure out what’s going wrong.

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