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Bill, what's going on in your world?

Coming to you from Alaska.

It seems that way.

One day it's 20, the next day it's 70.

Nobody can explain this to me.

I don't get it.

Is it global warming?

Is it just because of the proximity I am in the country?

I don't know, but frick.

I know it's a handful we were just talking about a minute ago.

You're here, you're in the garage, so you're not in the house right now.

You're still in the garage.

You're in the podcast studio.

So you got a little bit of, I don't know, a break or just a way to get from the

house to the garage.

And yeah, it's starting to ice up a little bit out there.

Oh no, that's all of it melting.

Yeah.

That's all of it melting.

It iced up around the garage so badly, I don't know.

I spent about an hour drifting in my six-wheeler.

Not intentionally.

I guess, yeah.

It's been interesting.

I know this is always like you have to get into this and prep more than usual because

everybody has their things that, you know, the shoveling the snow and digging the cars

out.

And I talked to, when Aaron Hagar was in Tahoe and he finally just moved out, he's been there

for, I don't know, 20 years, 18 years or something.

And I guess he had to keep one of his cars or two of his cars in his shop that had cars

outside.

And he goes, every day I got to go and get all the snow off because if it piles up and

ices, it dents the hoods, it dents that like this is like cracks glass, like all of this

crazy stuff.

So luckily you've got the garage where you can keep everything inside.

But you guys have this beautiful ranch with all of these animals and not all of the animals

or winter animals.

It's not a ranch full of pussies.

Yeah.

I can make light of it.

I can joke and all, but it sucks.

I mean, it's, you know, in a microcosm.

We had a baby sheep born, right?

The first day of the freeze.

It's wild, so you're not going to grab it unless it's right next to you.

You're not going to be able to go grab it and make sure that it's warm and safe when

it gets down to 15 degrees that night.

So it's out on its own, you know, with the pack of sheep, and it survived the three-day

freeze that we had.

And you know, Wanda goes to the barn last night and sees two foxes run right through

the sheep, right?

So I mean, their main target is that baby, and she's like, Jesus Christ, I'm not letting

this baby live through the storm and then get eaten by a fox.

So I go hunting until one o'clock in the morning last night.

It's only 15 degrees outside, you know, I didn't get anything.

I saw two foxes, but it's I'm looking across the road here.

We made a shelter right in the middle of day two of this ice storm.

We made a shelter for the llamas.

Now, what are you going to put a llama on a leash and drag him over there?

It's not, I mean, it's doable, but it's not the easiest thing in the world.

So we tried to lasso the damn thing.

It didn't work.

And then we built the shelter in 24 hours.

Nothing sits in the shelter.

So you're like, ah, Jesus, I put all this time and effort into it.

Well, bang, bang, boom, yesterday I'm driving.

All of a sudden, the llamas are in the shelter.

The fact is, is that you can do all the prepping that you can to prepare.

But you're never really prepared.

Yeah, you know, we thought the barn was completely prepared.

Water wise, we drain the pipes.

Well, one of the pipes still had water in it.

And so boom, it exploded.

You know, so, I mean, the chicken, the sheep, the turtle, the lizard, everything

has an issue.

And, you know, it's the responsibility of the owners, no question.

But it doesn't mean that it's easy.

So yeah, it sucks.

But yeah, it's what we signed up for.

So, you know, and the reality is that Wanda does nine tenths of the work over there.

I mean, I'm trying to take care of the rest of the property, which doesn't, you

know, have a heartbeat.

But yeah, it's tough.

Right.

But you got to keep fences up and all that stuff.

Yeah, we've got our neighbor literally that lives next door, lost probably 10

animals in the three day period.

And we didn't lose one, you know, that we know of.

So, I mean, hey, man, they're wild animals.

They're sheep, you know, six, one, half dozen other, right?

No, but they've got names.

And so it sucks when you see them out and they're wild and you know, you can't

wrangle them and you just hope to God that they go down in the creek and get out of

the cold.

So it's it's it's stressful.

That's all.

But yeah, it's what we signed up for.

Yeah.

And I, you know, Tammy as well, texting her family back home in the Midwest.

And, you know, they're trying to figure out how to how to how to get, you know,

they're trying to bring similar like they don't have all the animals, but

the neighbors have animals.

And when the like, when the neighbor's cat is out, they got to come to her

house and her parents' house because that's the closest one because the cat

lives a mile away and realized like I went for a walk and now I can't get home.

It's like, yeah, there's a lot of that going on.

And but anyway, everybody stay safe, stay warm.

And I know everybody's situation is different regardless of where you are.

I don't want to talk about what's happening here in California because

it'll just make everybody mad.

But yeah, don't just skip right over that.

Just going to skip right over it.

Ironically, as I'm looking outside, it's supposed to be 65 today.

Yeah.

You know, and then Friday, it's supposed to get down to 20 at night again.

So I mean, it's just it's it's a roller coaster.

But it's like I said, it's what we signed up.

And the worst freaking part is I can't drive the Cobra.

My butt off.

But, you know, all right, you can't drive the Cobra.

And we've got soon the the nine eleven turbo is going up on bring a trailer.

And we've just been like getting the images together and getting the description

together. So, you know, we'll we'll make the announcement when it's done.

It's submitted. It's good.

I'm talking to bring a trailer.

Guys are excited about it. It's such a cool car.

We just want to make sure everything is there in the description.

You can only do something once.

Yeah. Right.

So, I mean, yeah, we we're making sure that the the eyes are dotted and the

teeth are crossed and, you know, you you want to be as thorough as possible

once you you get it out there and you don't want to have to amend it in any way.

So yeah, I want people to enjoy the auction for everybody that just wants

to hang around and watch and comment.

We're going to be available for that.

And then for those of you that want to bid, I think that's a it's a cool car

to to to get in on.

And yeah, and you better get it on it because the prices that bear it over

the weekend look pretty damn strong for the bear it me come like the prices

are there. So anyway, now's now's your chance.

This is definitely one of those cars.

The longer you wait, the more expensive it's definitely going to get.

But also that makes it a pretty good investment car.

Then my opinion, you can't go wrong with with good nine elevens.

No. And like I said, man, I'm ad nauseam.

I'm going to say this again.

The the longer I have this car during this process, the more I'm learning

about it and the more I'm realizing what a fricking treasure it is to the true

Porsche guys. I mean, it's really cool.

The more I'm learning, the less I want to get rid of it.

So we need to put this we should just do it.

It's a damn thing.

Yeah, we should just do it.

All right, we're going to we're going to do it.

It's almost ready. We'll get it probably.

Soon. I don't want to say why, but it's going to happen very, very soon.

So like like a week or something, like it's not going to be.

Oh, yeah, you know, like it's going to, you know, it's submitted.

We're just fixing a few things.

This isn't like me talking about one of the YouTube videos

that are going to pop over the garage.

This is actually going to happen here.

So yeah, yeah.

And we got some of the engine noises and stuff.

But, you know, for for videos for the listing that we need to do

the one of me walking around it, though.

Yeah, we kind of need you like to do like the hosted video

and tell your story of the car.

So we need to get that.

And then and then we're we're good to go.

Everything is there.

And you know what, you're right.

As we started digging into the photos and digging in,

writing the description like this, it is a cool car.

Yeah, it really is more.

Yeah, I hate to admit it, but I mean, the damn thing is cool as shit.

I mean, and I've seen so many of them over the past two years

because, you know, a car in your collection, similar ones that are out there

for sale, you know, you're curious.

And I'm just I'm learning a lot about when they're a lot of fun.

And, you know, it's a it's a great niche of people that love these cars.

And now I can completely understand what they've been talking about.

Yeah.

Doesn't make it any bigger.

But yeah, it doesn't make it any bigger.

That's funny.

I I forgot who I was talking to.

I was just talking to somebody.

Oh, my my buddy, my buddy Paul from Canada.

He was at Barrick Jackson the whole time.

He's got a great Instagram account because he doesn't bash anybody

and all the cars or whatever, but he has such a good eye for detail.

And he just does his Instagram stories.

He doesn't make all the so it's just for all of his friends.

All of his followers.

And he'll just every car that you think is questionable may be good.

He'll show you and so many cars that you think are good or not.

And he just he's just like he's finding it everywhere.

Just trim pieces falling off and just like I got to tell you,

I don't know what happened with that big Lincoln.

It was like a green or blueish kind of Lincoln and went for a million bucks.

But that car was nowhere near a million bucks.

It wasn't good at all.

I mean, listen, when you go to Barrick Jackson, you see a Bronco

sell for 100 grand and you see oneself for 200 grand.

What's the difference?

The difference is it's got a full aftermarket chassis under it.

It's got like a coyote swap engine.

It's not like a restored chassis with a 302.

Like you you jump the echelon when you're doing full chassis.

The Lincoln was just a rusted frame.

No, no art Morrison.

No, you know, a

you know, aftermarket frame, no roadster shop frame, none of that stuff.

It had like a coyote swap engine or something in it.

But nothing was rough.

There was two people in the audience that really wanted this damn thing.

And I don't think they they scrutinized it.

But that also means there are some cars that went across that Barrett

that were still pretty good deals.

Like if you think about, you know,

a lot of the guys that and girls like go to Barrett,

they will buy a car going, you know, it's a great.

It's a great build.

It's a great rest of it.

I'm going to take it.

I'm going to put it home.

But a lot of people buy the cars and go, I'm going to take it.

And I'm just going to do a few of my own things to it.

I'm going to fix it up a few things.

I might have to rewire it, maybe, you know, I'm going to personalize it.

But I got a good deal on it and now it's going.

But you know, what's taken off over there are still 80s and 90s cars.

I'm not talking about the customs, the rest of mods, the hot rods.

Most of those guys are spending 500,000 building them and selling them

for 130,000. That's fine.

That's a great way to buy a rest of my.

You want to you want a full chassis car and an aftermarket engine.

Go to Barrett Jackson, buy your 69 Camaro and then bring it home

and know when you're going to put 30 grand into it.

But but then you're into it for 180, not for 500, you know.

But the stock cars, you know, like like your Porsche

would have done fantastic 80s and 90s cars, Camaro's

Mustangs, any of the specialty cars like a Saline or stuff like that.

Corvettes, you know, Cyclone, Typhoon,

the Ram SRT 10, like all of those things were pulling money.

These were just like stock vehicles.

People were bringing out there and 80s and 90s cars are going.

We when we talk to Alex from Bring a Trailer, he's like, that's that's

what's popping now.

It was like a year or two ago, his 80s cars.

Now we're in the 90s cars and, you know, starting to get into the 2000s.

But when all the yeah, you know, when all the old cars get too expensive,

we start looking at, you know, what's out there.

And so, yeah, I mean, if you were if you went to high school

and you were driving a 1990 Irock Irock, you know, and.

It's funny how we both this right.

And and now you're feeling a little nostalgic.

Well, you better jump on that soon because those prices are going up.

And you know how much fun it would be to have it just at stock Irock right now?

Totally. Build it up. It'd be awesome.

It would be it would be fun. It would be fun, for sure.

Yeah, I think I think now's the time, you know, see now you're touching

on what makes these cars special year after year is the feeling that the buyer

had when he was a kid.

Oh, 100 percent.

Like every one of us sitting around and going, all we think about is the vehicles

from our, you know, from our high school days, our teens and early, you know,

maybe early 20s and stuff going.

All these are the cars we grew up with and we drove.

And, you know, my friend had this in high school and, you know, that guy had this

guy, this girl had that thing that was cool and anything, this cool van,

cool Irock, cool Mustang, you know, you know, just any of that stuff.

I mean, and you're right.

So now we're like, oh, man, I missed that car.

It's completely impractical.

But as, you know, we age and, you know,

people are maybe a little bit better in a situation to go,

you know, I've got the family car, you know, the kids are getting a little older.

Maybe, maybe I'm interested and I can go and afford and get myself, you know,

another Mustang or Corvette or Irock or something or Camaro, you know, like.

And that's the times that we're dealing with.

Yeah. Yeah.

But anyway, that's what this podcast is about.

It's not just about llamas and sheep.

Oh, God, yeah.

Thankfully.

All right.

And this is kind of interesting is times are changing.

The Porsche 911 GT3, the GT3 RS, you know, it's been a naturally aspirated car.

It's been desirable, sort of, you know, any of the GT cars, but the naturally

aspirated ones are, you know, the ones to get, but no longer the GT3 RS is

probably going to be turbocharged.

It's what it's certainly looking like.

And it's not just because, you know, it's not for them going, oh, you know,

we've tapped out, there's only so much power we can make naturally aspirated.

That's not really the thing.

It's more like how much power can we make naturally aspirated and still pass

emissions, you know, UK emissions and just like worldwide.

And that's what's happening kind of here is going, you know what?

We have to make a more efficient engine and that's where, you know, boost comes in,

you know, so you either have to do it these days with hybrid power, right?

Like LaFerrari and McLaren and Corvette ZR1X or you got to do it with

turbocharging or you got to do it with both.

But anyway, this is kind of what we're seeing as far as what Porsche is going

to be doing and by the way, cool to see the, you know, the spy shots,

to see it testing on the track and hear it.

But it is going to sound different.

And it is going to be about 400 grand.

Yeah, it's going to be expensive.

But, you know, that's how things are going to change.

So let's talk about change.

And each week you send me these things that we're going to go over and one that you missed.

Okay.

Freaking Genesis off-road, that 1,000 horsepower gimmick.

Please let's talk about that.

OK, so it was just like a concept they put together.

So Genesis put together this off-road truck.

It looks more like, it looks more like like a Dakar truck and not,

it's not a conventional pickup truck.

It doesn't look like a truck by any means.

Yeah, so when you look at what it for, Ford did something in Dakar and I think

they'd call it like the Raptor T1 or something like that.

I don't know for sure.

And it has kind of that kind of body style to it.

So which implies that Genesis wants to do a certain type of off-road racing,

Baja racing, Dakar racing.

But what Alsther and I have been talking about recently is Genesis going all in

on motorsports.

They created that magma line.

Magma is like their AMG or BMW M or whatever.

And they're coming out with street cars, but they want to win Le Mans.

They want to build the prototype cars, the racing cars.

They want to do motorsports.

I don't know if they have an NHRA dragster out there with a Genesis body on it.

Yeah, but it wouldn't surprise me if they went down that direction.

Good for them.

Yeah, but yeah, they want to get in on this for sure.

It was like a thousand horsepower, right?

Yeah, please show it.

I'm going to see if I can bring it up real quick.

Genesis all carbon fiber looking, fricking beautiful.

I mean, the Mad Max looking gimmick.

Yeah, I need one for the ranch.

All right, so they do have it on their website and their concept, which is good

because they're not just doing spy photos, they're like, this is what we want to do.

Fricking awesome.

There's I guess they got a bit of a video here.

You guys won't be able to hear the video, but on the Genesis website,

there's a there's a video.

Let's see what they got.

So we're kind of watching it.

But but this thing is cool looking, right?

Do the black photo to the left, right there in the middle.

Yeah, in large that.

All right, here we go.

Let me go back.

Where'd that photo go?

There it is.

There you go.

Look at that thing.

That's fricking awesome.

I don't care who makes it.

Yeah, this thing is a full like tube frame thing, but there.

They're getting out there.

This is the concept for like a for an interior.

Now, this is kind of cool because this looks like a production interior.

I mean, except for the dash on the steering wheel and the passenger.

But that's kind of nice looking for, you know, for an off-roader.

Hey, bravo.

All I can say, I mean, I love this.

They put a big smile on my face this morning when I saw that.

So the specs on it, I don't know if they got into the specs,

but it's supposed to be over a thousand horsepower V8.

Oh, eleven hundred horsepower.

I don't know if it's it must be some kind of second to be hybrid.

Yeah, I don't know.

But pretty cool, right?

Yeah, I'd say it's cooler now.

I mean, all I can do, all I can say is that I will be following this build.

Yeah, now, I don't know what any sort of production vehicle is going to look like.

But if their intention is to go racing to go to Baja and put this thing out there,

this is a cool looking vehicle to see out on any racing environment.

Hell, yeah. I mean, it's just, hey, it's thinking outside the box.

It's cool. Yeah.

Anyway, that sort of implies that that brand is going to start to get into off

roading as well. So anyway, very, very cool. I like that thing.

Let's take a word.

Yeah, let's take a quick break.

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OK, so the other thing that came up, we talked about this a few weeks ago,

maybe a couple of months ago, was Ram teamed up with Fox factory vehicles.

The suspension manufacturer, they're they're like OE side and put together

a Ram high performance street truck, you know, it was lowered.

It's got the Fox suspension on it.

They put a supercharger or something on it.

And Tim Caniscus, you know, friend of the show, you know, CEO of Ram had said,

you know, the street truck market when you look at even pointed out like right now,

the like car of the year is the Ford Maverick Lobo, which is kind of the lowered

street version has kind of like a drift gearing in it and stuff.

And, you know, it's still meant to be fairly affordable.

It's not 900 horsepower.

It's a little 2.5 liter EcoBoost.

But he said that got car truck of the year because there is an audience

that's responding back to high performance street trucks and journalists

looking at it, you know, I've been a fan of street trucks for a while.

But, you know, I live in, you know, I live in L.A.

So it's street trucks are kind of the thing.

And he said the response for that truck was fantastic.

And he expected it to be good.

But I think it ended up being better than what he thought.

I'm going to bring it up here again.

So Ford's doing it as well.

Like Ford has like the Ford Racing garage or whatever it is.

And for like, so you can buy, let's say you get your Ford F-150,

you get the V8, the Coyote version.

And you can get the short cab, the two door or the four door.

And then you can go to your dealer and for like 13 grand, they will do the

lowering kit, the big supercharger, Whipple, the wheels and tires, graphics package.

It's a turnkey solution from Ford with a warranty that your dealer can install.

And it makes your 700, I don't know, 700 horsepower, 750 horsepower truck.

It's kind of cool.

So Tim Kaniscus saw that too.

They did this truck.

This is a badass looking truck.

And now Tim is going, this was a good experiment with Fox Factory vehicles.

But the idea of going, can we do this as an OE truck?

Can we basically take the TRX with that engine, that transmission and all the good

things of a TRX, swap out the off-road suspension, swap in a street suspension

and have a direct from Ram, supercharged, 777 horsepower beast of a vehicle.

So I don't know, you're out there, you're on the ranch.

I understand the off-road truck, but what do you think of a high-performance

armored street truck coming from Ram?

You know, I'm closely tied to the brand.

And the first thing that I can say is, what about Dodge?

That's all I can say, right?

They need to concentrate a little bit.

They need to add a little emphasis on other things, I believe, than doing this right now.

But, but I think it's cool.

I think it's a great idea.

I think it's proven in the market.

I think the SRT-10 truck is one of the coolest things that they ever did.

This is a modern version of it, kind of.

I still would rather have the old SRT-10 truck, SRT-10 truck.

But, I mean, there's a market for it, quite obviously.

I wouldn't, I don't believe I'm in that market by any means, because I'd rather

have the thing lifted and off-road suspension.

But, hey, you know, I think it's cool.

I think it's a good idea.

I just wish that they'd concentrate more on their other brand at the moment,

because it needs help really badly.

So that's my first impression.

Yeah, OK.

And then the other part of that equation was Ram announced they are bringing back

the TRX, right, the truck that you love.

It's going to have more horsepower now.

It's 777 horsepower.

It's 680 pound-feet of torque, zero to 16, 3.5 seconds.

Zero reason for me to trade mine in and get one, because mine's already faster.

Both of them are.

Right, yours are personalized or customized.

It's not a big leap in difference.

It's not like, hey, it's a new body style and everything.

But it's it's just you got a guy like Caniscus when he gets back, you know,

at the company and he's going, we, you know, we understand we kind of

flubbed the direction here to the previous guy.

And he was going after all the tiny stuff and the no horsepower.

And that's not the brand we built.

So for him to make up for that, it's tough for him to like walk into this job

and go, we made a mistake, we're going to fix it.

Keep an eye on us because we're going to build something new.

And in five years from now, you're going to have something new.

He doesn't have that much time.

So now he has to look at the low hanging fruit and go, give me the ram

truck, let's do the TRX, let's just bring it back.

It's there, it's tested.

Let's let's let's make some small improvements to it.

And I just wish they would have let Trossel or somebody do something

visually as a as a big difference between the old and the new.

Yeah, that's all.

Now, when you're talking about Dodge, so the charger,

you know, the EV, whatever, we're not even talking about the EV anymore,

but they got the Hurricane V6 is and then he said a V8 would fit.

But this is this is sort of the latest thought process that's coming from Dodge.

They're going, well, the hurricane six cylinder is 550 horsepower.

So for us to put a Hemi V8 in it, doesn't make sense.

We would just skip V8 and go right to like the SRT.

So if you want 550 horsepower, get the six cylinder.

If you want 760 horsepower, get get the SRT, right?

But just to start doing a whole line up of V8 probably doesn't make much sense for them.

True. Right.

And again, that's a faster way to get production cars,

high performance production cars done, you know, absolutely.

You know, because I mean, they're needed to be a Hail Mary

and for them not to come out with the TRX with the V8 again would be a huge mistake.

Yeah. And yes, it was an easy fix.

Well, we say.

But yeah.

But they they really need to concentrate on their base.

Yeah. As a whole, as a brand.

Yeah. So the TRX is not going to be enough changes to to justify.

For current owners, probably not going to upgrade.

But for anybody that didn't get one and wanted one,

it's not shopping around for used ones or whatever.

There is a price. Yeah, yeah, it depends on the price.

Yes, the price is going to be immediately

telling as to whether they're listening to their audience or not.

Well, here's the thing is it can't really be less than what

you guys bought your TRX is at.

Now, the reason why is because then you're getting to my situation

with my Ford Lightning is, you know, this truck came out as 100 grand.

And then when EV started, you know, plateauing and and and less desirable,

then they had to drop the prices.

And then all of a sudden people are buying my same exact truck two years later

for twenty thousand dollars less money and it completely destroys the value of my truck.

Right. And we had this big talk last week, Alistair and I about negative equity

being upside down on car loans and a massive twenty nine point three percent

of people in the United States now have negative equity in their cars.

And and and the amount of money is not insignificant.

It's now it's thousands of dollars.

It's like seven thousand dollars of negative equity.

You know, we joked a little bit about admins buying the Fisker

and then the Fisker going out of business with about a sixty thousand

hour vehicle they bought for they sold for fifteen thousand.

But Edmonds is a massive company that's part of their business.

But for people that bought cars like that, this is this isn't that extreme.

But yes, if you spend a hundred thousand dollars on a TRX and they come out

with one that's even slightly less, it's eighty nine grand and you're getting

the same trim options, it it does hurt the value of yours a little bit.

You know, for for a lot of people who bought it, it's not that big of a deal.

But look at the big picture.

What's the most important thing right now for the brand?

Yeah, they need to sell trucks.

They need to sell trucks and they need to bring the base back.

Yeah, whatever they can do to bring the base back.

Yeah, as an owner, I'd be a little bit pissed off if you could buy the new one

a little bit less than. But I'd understand it.

You know, I don't understand that it's a it's a decision that had to be made.

I don't know.

An interesting thing, though, is is when when Kaniscus was talking

about like the high performance street truck version and he had the four door

out there, there's a there's a big audience like I don't want to say big,

but there's definitely a really loyal niche audience of truck owners

doing high performance, two door, short bed trucks, right?

So when Ford does their aftermarket package, that that supercharger

to kit package, you can get it on the two door of the four door.

You can get it on any one of the F one fifties as long as it has the V eight

coyote engine in it. Kaniscus said,

now there's not going to be a two door version of the high performance truck.

It's only going to be the four door and it was very simple.

Somebody asked them why he said because we don't sell any two door trucks.

It's like it just that's it.

The end of the day, it just, you know, you got to make a company

that's going to make some money and it's like there's just no money in it.

We don't sell two door trucks.

I mean, there was that niche that would probably like it,

but he's like, we're not, we don't sell any.

And I was like, all right, that's what I like about him.

I like about him.

He's like, no, we don't do it.

We don't sell any move on next question.

OK, and then one other thing before we wrap up, I don't know if you saw this,

but at the quail, I think it was last year and the year before

Singer had their big booth and they're saying,

listen, we were done with that, that first production build of the 911s

and whatever that we were doing.

And then we did the DLS and now we're going to do the turbos.

And now we're going to do the DLS turbo and the very first production,

you know, the customer car has been made.

I guess it's been delivered.

I don't know if there's if he owns it now or if he's just doing press with it.

But I don't know how much it was.

Oh, because it's absolutely Gord.

It's cool. Yeah.

It's it's definitely screams like Porsche 935 vibes.

I probably would have went with more of like the HRE like 935 style wheels

on this particular car.

If I was the owner and I was speccing it out, that's probably what I would have gone with.

The the DLS program is their Dynamics and Lightweight Study,

which sounds like it's a concept car, but you buy the DLS cars.

You'll see them pop up at auctions and stuff now.

You know, R.M. Hadam, you know, Graham Rahall performance.

Graham Rahall's like aftermarket dealer that he's putting together.

That thing has been taking off and he's been getting a bunch of like singers in

their really cool cars there, McLaren's.

His business has been growing.

I saw in an interview, he's like the dealer.

His his like, I don't want to say it's a used car dealer.

It's a specialty dealer and it's a shop that does stuff.

They can do some modifications.

They do some personalization stuff.

They do, of course, ceramic in this, you know, in the PPF.

I think he said that dealer did a hundred million dollars

or it's on track to do a hundred million dollars this year.

So that's a hell of a business he's built there.

Yeah, but I don't know.

Look at this thing.

This thing is gorgeous, just gorgeous.

Every one of these things is just an amazing piece of artwork.

It looks to a to a point like the Ring Brothers got a hold of a 9-11.

It really kind of does.

It's really starting to look like that.

But, you know, the the attention to detail, the craftsmanship.

I mean, it looks like it's there.

I have not driven a singer.

I don't know that I would expect this one out with such the big wing,

you know, the big racing wing.

I kind of like it just with the just sort of the whale tail wing,

you know, like a Porsche 930.

But this thing is cool.

And you kind of look at the photos and it looks like it's blue.

But I don't know if this is if it fades to black, which is kind of bad ass.

If that's the way it looks or if that's just the way they lit it for this thing.

But I think that's the way it looks.

I think it's cool.

I would around the vendors in the in the rear a little bit better.

Well, so this up here is this is all Porsche 935, right?

This is Adam Kroll's racing car, his his Hawaiian Tropic car.

So they try to sort of body.

You know, like 930 front end, 934 front end with 935, you know,

you know, rear, but I mean, look, they did a good job.

I personally like the like the 930 style.

They did their their their their other turbo cars that way.

I don't know if they have them on their on their website.

But if I find a picture of a quick, I'll show you what I'm talking about.

But I like I mean, I like the 935 style.

I just don't know if I like, I don't know if I love it as like a street car.

In my opinion, let's see if I can find there.

That's the DLS turbo.

Yeah, so I just kind of like the the turbo.

Here's the like this fender in the rear.

Yeah, you know, I like this.

Yeah, there are classic turbo.

Yeah, that's cool.

And I like it with that wing.

Yep, 100 percent.

Beautiful gauges.

Oh, yeah, I mean, this car is stunning.

I mean, good luck keeping that interior clean.

This one with the cream interior that that they have on the website.

But go to go to the Singer Design website.

If you're not looking at it here with us on YouTube, click on the classic turbo.

And I just think for me, that was the car.

You know, we were talking about like the cars you grew up with or the cars

you would see in the era of cars.

And this is the era of car like like nine Porsche 930 for me was like

the pinnacle of street car.

It was such a cool piece.

A guy in my neighborhood down the street had a 930, you know,

and he it was just the coolest thing.

It was you'd love it was black on black.

He would take it out every once in a while.

And it was just the coolest thing to see.

But yeah, these guys are doing an amazing job.

And anyway, that's cool car, cool spec, a couple of million bucks.

I don't know. Is it two million bucks now?

The Singer Turbo DLS?

I'd say, yeah, probably.

Right. It's probably two million because the singers are selling for a million

bucks now, you know, like in the aftermarket, all the previous ones

before the turbos came out, those are million dollar cars, you know,

all day long, they're million dollar cars, you know, and they're worth it.

It's amazing now how, you know, we were saying there's so many hot rods,

custom cars that are built and you could spend 500,000, 800,000 dollars

on a custom build, then you see it at Bear Jackson for 200.

And that's kind of to be expected.

There's sort of the whole process of being involved with the build.

But seeing cars like like Singer

probably trading for more money than they sold for.

And this is a sort of a specialty car company, if you will,

every car is personalized, every every build is a commission.

You know, they sit down with the customer, it gets a name, you know,

it's it's it's all different.

And yeah, like you got the money, you're going to spend a million dollars

on on commissioning a singer to get to get built.

Chances are that's going to go up in value.

That's tough to do for for one off cars, you know, if that's what we're calling them.

Yeah, Dave, quality, man, you give what you pay for.

Yeah, they did such a great job on

on building the brand, building the image around the brand, right?

Who is involved?

And, you know, I think I still think

a Marino Franckini is like one of their test drivers

because Dario is working with Gordon Murray, right?

And his brother is working with Singer. Nice.

Yeah. Who's got a better job than those two guys, right?

No, seriously, you know.

All right, I know you got some stuff to take care of.

And Juan does text you to go fix the plumbing.

That's freezing over, so we're going to wrap things up.

Thanks, buddy.

Have a good time. Stay warm.

And we'll just see you guys next week until then.

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