Greg Stanley, former RM Sotheby’s car specialist, talks about the collector car market, his podcast, book series and more.
About this episode
Greg Stanley, a former RM Sotheby’s car specialist, joins CarCast to unpack how the collector car market works—from first-person “forbidden fruit” sightings to today’s auction and provenance-driven pricing. The conversation moves through his podcast and interactive listener ideas, plus a book series built around automotive eras and a “collector’s ladder.” They also trade stories about Countach ergonomics, Pebble Beach highlights, and why racing history, originality, and even auction prep details can swing values dramatically.
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Toyota Corolla
"...ou're like, yes, I am. Yes, except that was sunny Corolla, not my son. I don't know. That's right."
The Corolla is a small, everyday car made by Toyota. People talk about it a lot because it’s usually affordable to run and easy to live with. It’s the kind of car many people see on the road every day.
The Toyota Corolla is a compact car known for being practical, efficient, and widely available. It often comes up in conversations because it’s a common “everyday” vehicle and a benchmark for reliability and low cost of ownership. In a podcast, it may be mentioned as a familiar example of a mainstream model people can relate to.
Pagani
"He just like a lot of the young kids are like, I want to see Pagani and I want to see Kona's egg and I want to see, you know, a Bugatti"
Pagani is a luxury supercar brand from Italy. It makes very rare, expensive cars that collectors and fans love to see in person at car events.
Pagani is an Italian supercar brand known for ultra-exotic, hand-built cars and high-end materials. At events like Monterey, people often seek out Pagani cars because they’re rare and visually distinctive.
Hyundai Kona
"He just like a lot of the young kids are like, I want to see Pagani and I want to see Kona's egg and I want to see, you know, a Bugatti and I want to see Hennessy and learning about some of those things"
The Hyundai Kona is a small SUV/crossover for daily driving. It’s made to be practical and easy to live with, not a race car. People may mention it because it’s a common model that younger drivers are curious about.
The Hyundai Kona is a compact crossover SUV designed for everyday driving with practical space and available powertrain options. The podcast context suggests it’s being mentioned alongside other performance or exotic cars, likely as an example of what younger buyers want to see or learn about. It’s significant because it represents Hyundai’s entry in the crossover segment that many people encounter first.
Bugatti
"and I want to see Kona's egg and I want to see, you know, a Bugatti and I want to see Hennessy"
Bugatti is a famous supercar brand known for very fast, very expensive cars. People go out of their way to see them at big car shows.
Bugatti is a French supercar brand famous for extreme performance and high-end collector appeal. It’s often a “bucket list” brand at major collector-car events because of its iconic designs and rarity.
Hennessy
"and I want to see, you know, a Bugatti and I want to see Hennessy and learning about some of those things for the first time"
Hennessy is a company that takes some cars and makes them even more powerful. At car events, people often want to see the special Hennessy-built cars.
Hennessy is best known as a performance tuner that builds high-output versions of existing cars, especially in the American and supercar worlds. When collectors mention “seeing Hennessy,” they’re usually talking about those tuned, limited-run vehicles rather than a mainstream factory model line.
Porsche 288 GTO
"and you get the poster, you know, the Kuntas or the 959 or, [207.8s] you know, or maybe even a 288 GTO."
The Porsche 288 GTO is a very special, limited Porsche from the early 1980s. It was made with racing in mind, and it’s famous because it’s turbocharged and extremely collectible today.
The Porsche 288 GTO is a rare, homologation-focused Porsche from the early 1980s, built to meet racing rules. It’s notable for its turbocharged performance and for being one of the most collectible “serious” 911-era race-bred models.
Lamborghini Countach
"you would go into like a Spencer Gifts in the mall and you get the poster, you know, the Kuntas or the 959 or, [207.8s] you know, or maybe even a 288 GTO. ... my first Kuntas, my, you know, but, you know,"
The Lamborghini Countach is a legendary supercar, famous for its wild, angular look. It’s the kind of car people grew up seeing in posters and dreaming about.
The Lamborghini Countach is one of the most famous wedge-shaped supercars ever, known for its dramatic styling and high-performance reputation. In collector culture, it’s a poster-car icon that helped define what many people imagined “exotic” cars looked like.
Porsche 959
"Like I was an adult when I first saw like my first 959 Porsche and my first Kuntas, my, you know, but, you know,"
The Porsche 959 is an iconic Porsche supercar from the 1980s. People talk about it because it was packed with cutting-edge tech for its time, and it became a collector favorite.
The Porsche 959 is a landmark supercar from Porsche, famous for its advanced 1980s engineering and rally-bred all-wheel-drive system. It’s often cited as a “technology showcase” car that helped define what modern performance cars would become.
Testerosa
"So I'm down with the Testerosa and the Kuntas. I mean, horrible cars, but man, they're gorgeous."
They’re talking about a Ferrari supercar called the Testarossa. Even though they call it “horrible,” they’re saying it looks amazing and turns heads.
The speaker is referring to the Ferrari Testarossa, a 1980s-era supercar famous for its distinctive side strakes and big, V12-powered presence. Here it’s mentioned as part of a comparison set of “horrible cars” that are still visually stunning.
pedal box
"When I drove a Kuntas, you're right, like you're in it and and the like the door sill area, it's like it really kind of comes in and moves the pedal box over to the right."
The pedal box is the space and mounting area for the gas, brake, and clutch pedals. They’re saying the car’s shape pushes that area over, so your feet have to sit in a weird position.
The “pedal box” is the structural area where the accelerator, brake, and clutch pedals are mounted. In the Countach/“Kuntas” example, the speaker says the door sill area intrudes and effectively shifts the pedal box, changing how you position your feet.
clutch
"but the clutch is really heavy and you can't literally like get much of a shoe in between your the brake and the gas pedal, right?"
The clutch is the pedal you press to shift gears. They’re saying it’s very heavy, so it takes more leg strength than most cars.
A clutch is the mechanical connection between the engine and the transmission that lets you disengage power to change gears. The speaker notes that this car’s clutch is “really heavy,” meaning it requires a lot of pedal effort, which changes how you drive.
can't see out of it
"And you realize you can't see out of it. So I was driving it around and I was like, man, I can't see out of this thing."
They’re saying the car makes it hard to see where you’re going. That can happen in very low, wide supercars where the windshield and seating position don’t give you great sightlines.
This refers to visibility limitations caused by the car’s seating position and body shape. In low-slung, wedge-style supercars like the Countach, the driver can feel “trapped” with restricted sightlines, which affects confidence and daily drivability.
Lamborghini Diablo
"...mostly because of the design. But he's like, that Diablo is so much better of a car than the Kuntas, even ..."
The Lamborghini Diablo is a supercar made by Lamborghini. It’s known for its bold, eye-catching design and high performance. People often talk about it because it’s a recognizable classic Lamborghini.
The Lamborghini Diablo is a classic-era Lamborghini supercar known for its distinctive styling and dramatic performance. In the podcast context, it’s brought up as a car that’s “better” than another mentioned model, suggesting it’s being compared in terms of overall appeal and driving character. It’s significant because it’s a well-known, collectible Lamborghini from a highly memorable design period.
brass era
"So like there's a chapter on brass era cars. There's a chapter on classic era."
“Brass era” is a nickname collectors use for the very early period of car history. It usually refers to cars from the early 1900s that had lots of brass details and were part of the first wave of automotive development.
“Brass era” is a collector-car term for the early days of automobiles, typically associated with late-1890s through the 1910s. It’s named for prominent brass fittings and hardware, and it’s often discussed as a distinct phase in automotive technology and design.
classic era
"So like there's a chapter on brass era cars. There's a chapter on classic era."
“Classic era” is a collector term for a certain time period in car history that people treat as a distinct group. It generally means the cars from that period have recognizable classic styling and are part of what collectors chase.
“Classic era” is a collector-car category label used to group automobiles from a particular historical period that’s considered foundational to classic-car collecting. In collector discussions, it usually implies a recognizable set of styling and technology traits that distinguish it from earlier “brass era” and later eras.
300 SL Gullwing
"Then it also is the collector's ladder. So if you want to, if you aspire to have a 300 SL Gullwing, that's, you know, $2 million."
The Mercedes-Benz 300 SL “Gullwing” is a famous classic car known for its doors that open upward like a bird’s wings. Collectors love it because it’s both historically important and instantly recognizable.
The Mercedes-Benz 300 SL is a legendary late-1950s grand tourer, and the “Gullwing” refers to its distinctive upward-opening doors. It’s one of the most iconic collectible cars because it combines advanced engineering for its era with a very recognizable design.
collector's ladder
"Then it also is the collector's ladder. So if you want to, if you aspire to have a 300 SL Gullwing, that's, you know, $2 million. But what's like a mid tier and an entry level of that same era..."
A “collector’s ladder” is the idea that collectors usually start with more affordable cars and work their way up to the big dream models. It also means you can collect cars from the same time period even if you’re not buying the most expensive one right away.
The “collector’s ladder” is a market concept describing how collectors often move from entry-level or more attainable cars toward higher-status, more expensive icons. It frames collecting as a progression within the same historical era—so you can “be in the era” even if you can’t start with the top-tier dream car.
Porsches
"And like I said, it's first of a series. [722.4s] So the next one's about Porsches. [724.0s] I hope to have 40 to 55 contributors to that book."
Porsche is a famous German car brand that makes sports cars. Here, the host is saying the next book will focus on Porsche cars. That’s relevant to collectors because Porsche models can have very different prices depending on which generation you’re talking about.
Porsche is a German sports-car brand known for performance-focused engineering and a large collector following. In the context of this episode, “Porsches” signals that the next book series will focus on Porsche models from the collector market. That matters because Porsche has multiple eras with very different values and buyer demand.
Ferrari
"So the next one's about Porsches. [724.0s] I hope to have 40 to 55 contributors to that book. [727.6s] After that, I believe it's Ferrari."
Ferrari is a well-known Italian brand famous for high-end sports cars. The host is saying the next book after Porsche will be about Ferrari cars. Ferrari models are especially popular with collectors, so they often show up in big auction conversations.
Ferrari is an Italian supercar and sports-car brand with a strong collector market and high global demand. The host’s mention indicates a future book installment focused on Ferrari cars, which typically have distinct value drivers like model rarity, racing pedigree, and condition. That makes Ferrari a major “collector category” in auction and private-sale discussions.
Cadillac V16
"...ld basically build whatever powertrain, you know, V16s, you know, you had these... You had these coachwo..."
The Cadillac V16 is an old luxury car that used a very large engine with 16 cylinders. It was built to be powerful and smooth for its time. People talk about it because it’s rare and represents a unique period of car engineering.
The Cadillac V16 refers to a rare, early Cadillac model that used a V16 engine configuration, built to deliver extremely smooth and powerful performance for its time. The podcast context mentions “V16s” and coachwork, pointing to the era when Cadillac offered high-end, custom-bodied vehicles. It’s often discussed because it represents a distinctive chapter in automotive engineering and luxury history.
Pebble
"And there are often quite a few at Pebble. [935.6s] And if you go to Pebble, you will see, [938.8s] obviously, you'll see the best of the best."
Pebble Beach refers to Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance, one of the most prestigious collector-car events in the U.S. It’s known for showcasing top-condition, historically significant cars—so references to “the best of the best” are about concours-level judging and curation.
Lamborghini Miura
"He's bringing a Lamborghini Miura, [959.6s] which can't go wrong with that, [961.8s] and a 38 Talbot Lago Teardrop."
The Lamborghini Miura is a famous old supercar from Lamborghini. It’s special because the engine sits in the middle of the car, which helps it handle well, and it’s known for its iconic looks.
The Lamborghini Miura is a landmark supercar known for its mid-engine layout, which helped it feel unusually balanced and agile for its era. It’s one of the most influential designs in Lamborghini history and a frequent star at major concours events like Pebble Beach.
Talbot Lago Teardrop
"and a 38 Talbot Lago Teardrop. [967.3s] Wow. Yeah. [969.1s] And pretty, pretty amazing car."
The Talbot Lago Teardrop is an extremely rare classic car known for its very smooth, teardrop-like shape. People love it because the design looks futuristic and it was also meant to be more aerodynamic.
The Talbot Lago Teardrop is a rare, coachbuilt grand touring car famous for its teardrop-shaped bodywork and aerodynamic efficiency. The “Teardrop” nickname comes from the smooth, droplet-like profile that was designed to reduce drag and improve high-speed stability.
Ken Gross
"“...the Maroon with the Silver, [1004.9s] that was at a museum exhibit that Ken Gross set up.”"
Ken Gross is the person who set up the museum display the speaker is talking about. He’s basically the curator/organizer behind that exhibit.
Ken Gross is referenced as the person who set up a museum exhibit where the speaker saw the maroon car with a silver element. In collector-car circles, curators and collectors like this often shape what cars people get to see and how they’re presented.
Bruce Myers
"“[1053.1s] A little like walking around Bruce Myers' garage. [1056.5s] That's a Cobra?”"
Bruce Myers is mentioned as an example of someone with a really cool car garage. The speaker is saying the situation feels similar to walking around his collection.
Bruce Myers is referenced in a comparison to his garage, implying it’s the kind of enthusiast collection where iconic cars like a Cobra would be present. Myers is known in the hobby for building and collecting cars, so his name functions as a shorthand for “serious collector garage.”
Le Mans
"It's like, yeah, but that's the Le Mans winning. Yeah, that one was Le Mans. Yeah, that one was Le Mans."
Le Mans is a famous long-distance race in France. Cars that win there are especially valuable to collectors because they have proven racing success.
Le Mans refers to the 24 Hours of Le Mans endurance race in France, one of the most prestigious events in motorsport. Winning or even placing well there can dramatically increase a car’s collector value because it proves the car’s competitive pedigree.
Clark Gables
"Yeah, the 300 Coupe. Oh, that's Clark Gables. Oh, and the luggage in the trunk is his wife's,"
That’s a reference to Clark Gable, a famous movie star. Collectors care when a car was owned by a celebrity because it adds story and history.
Clark Gables is a reference to Clark Gable, the classic Hollywood actor. Mentioning a celebrity owner is a common collector-market angle because provenance—who owned the car—can strongly affect desirability and price.
Ferrari 250 GTO
"What's the big money Ferrari? The 250 GTO? She's got the Testerosa."
The Ferrari 250 GTO is one of the most famous and valuable classic Ferraris. It’s rare and has a strong racing background, which is why collectors chase it.
The Ferrari 250 GTO is a legendary limited-production grand touring race car from Ferrari, famous for its rarity and racing heritage. It’s often treated as a “top of the market” collector car because demand is extremely high and supply is very limited.
short wheelbase
"And it's the... Oh, short wheelbase. He's got the short wheelbase one, yeah."
“Short wheelbase” means the car’s front-to-rear distance is shorter than normal. That can make the car feel a bit more nimble, and collectors care because it identifies a specific version.
Short wheelbase means the distance between the front and rear axles is shorter than usual for that model. That typically changes how the car feels—often making it feel more agile—while also creating a more specific, sometimes rarer, variant that collectors track.
Ferrari GTO
"“What's the $70 million Ferrari race?” “Yeah, the GTO.” “I think he does.” “So he is a GTO.”"
“Ferrari GTO” is a very rare, very valuable Ferrari model that collectors chase. The hosts are discussing one that sold for tens of millions of dollars at auction.
Ferrari GTO refers to a high-profile Ferrari model line known for extreme rarity and big collector demand. In this context, the host is talking about a “$70 million Ferrari race” and later confirms “he is a GTO,” framing it as a top-tier auction collector car.
racing history
"But maybe not necessarily the racing history. [1162.4s] So it was funny because this guy that I know,"
“Racing history” means the car’s past in competitions—what races it entered and how it did. Collectors care because it helps prove the car’s story and can make it more valuable.
“Racing history” refers to the documented competitive record of a specific car—where it raced, who drove it, and what results it achieved. In auctions and private sales, stronger racing provenance can raise confidence in authenticity and increase desirability.
provenance
"It's still a 250 GTO, [1193.7s] but it doesn't necessarily have the best racing history. [1197.5s] There was something a little interesting about it."
In collector car terms, provenance is the car’s documented background—who owned it and what it did. A car with a stronger, well-documented history usually gets treated as more valuable by serious collectors.
In the collector car market, provenance is the chain of ownership and documented history that supports what the car is and where it’s been. The host’s “head of the table” vs “to the table” metaphor is essentially about how provenance can separate top-tier cars from merely desirable ones.
serial number
"And it's actually serial number seven. Like they may, you know, numbered them."
A serial number is like a car’s unique ID. It’s used to prove which exact car you’re looking at, and collectors care because it can confirm the car’s history.
A serial number is a unique identifier assigned to a specific production unit. In collector-car context, it helps verify authenticity and can make a particular example more desirable because it’s tied to the car’s documented build history.
330 LM
"So the one I represented, it was born as a 330 LM, which it was designed with a four liter engine to race at Le Mans."
The Ferrari 330 LM was a Ferrari race car built with Le Mans in mind. The idea was to use a big engine and a race-ready design to compete in long-distance endurance events.
The Ferrari 330 LM is a Le Mans–focused Ferrari built around a 4.0-liter engine concept for endurance racing. In the segment, the host says the car was “born as a 330 LM,” tying its design and engine intent to the Le Mans program.
3D scoops
"And it's so interesting because it had the traditional 3D scoops on the front, which is the sexiest front end you've ever seen on a car in your life."
“Scoops” are openings on the body that help move air where it’s needed. On race cars, they can be functional for cooling or airflow, and they also make the front end look aggressive.
“3D scoops” are raised, sculpted air-intake openings on a car’s bodywork. On race cars, scoops are often used to feed airflow to cooling systems or to manage aerodynamic airflow, and the host calls them out as a distinctive visual feature.
duck bill mail slot front end
"It had a duck bill mail slot front end that is super ugly. And it was a three liter out of a P3."
That phrase is describing the shape of the car’s front end. Collectors use nicknames like “duck bill” and “mail slot” to point to the exact nose design, because different versions can look noticeably different.
“Duck bill” and “mail slot” are descriptive terms collectors use for specific front-end shapes on certain vintage race cars. They refer to the distinctive aerodynamic opening/shape of the nose area, which can help identify a particular configuration or bodywork variant.
four speed
"And so the original four liter was lost to time, unfortunately, same with the four speed. The three liter and the five speed is what was in the car when it was sold."
“Four speed” means the car has a transmission with four gears. Different gearboxes can change how the car drives, and collectors care because the original setup can be part of the car’s history.
A “four speed” refers to a four-gear transmission layout, which affects how the engine’s power is delivered across speed ranges. In collector-car discussions, the exact gearbox specification can be part of what makes a car historically correct or valuable.
five speed
"The three liter and the five speed is what was in the car when it was sold. There was a spare four liter that came with the car."
“Five speed” means the transmission has five gears. The speaker is saying that when the car was sold, it had this five-gear setup rather than the earlier configuration.
A “five speed” transmission has five forward gears, which can improve flexibility for acceleration and cruising compared with fewer gears. The speaker uses it to describe what configuration the car had at sale time, which is important for provenance and originality.
first 36
"So the reason it was not a $70 million car is because it was not one of the first 36. It was one of the additional three prototypes."
“First 36” is a collector shorthand for an early, limited group of cars. The speaker is saying this particular car isn’t as valuable because it wasn’t part of that first batch.
In this context, “first 36” refers to a specific early production/prototype subset that collectors treat as especially significant. The speaker ties it to valuation—saying the car wasn’t worth $70 million because it wasn’t among that initial group.
additional three prototypes
"It was one of the additional three prototypes. But it's pretty interesting because it's the only one that came from the factory with two different engine configurations."
This means the car was built as one of a small number of extra prototype versions. Collectors care a lot about how many prototypes exist and which ones were built, because that affects rarity and value.
“Additional three prototypes” indicates the car was part of a small set of extra prototype builds beyond the initially famous batch. In the collector market, prototype status and build count strongly influence provenance, originality, and pricing.
two different engine configurations
"But it's pretty interesting because it's the only one that came from the factory with two different engine configurations."
This means the car had two different engine setups as part of its factory history. Collectors like that because it’s unusual and helps prove what the car has been through over time.
“Two different engine configurations” means the car left the factory with (or was delivered in) two distinct engine setups at different times or as part of its documented build history. For collectors, having multiple factory configurations can make a car uniquely interesting because it creates a verifiable, story-rich provenance.
Shelby Daytona coupes
"And those are, you know, Shelby Daytona coupes that are worth a ton of money now."
This is talking about Shelby’s famous race cars from the Daytona era. Even though they were just “race cars” at the time, today the surviving ones are worth a lot and collectors chase them.
“Shelby Daytona coupes” refers to Shelby’s high-profile NASCAR/road-racing-era cars associated with the Daytona name. They’re famous because the Daytona-era race cars became extremely collectible later, especially as surviving examples dwindled.
Pete Brock
"Pete Brock tells a story about how Shelby didn't want to bring it home and he offered it to him for sale."
Pete Brock was a well-known racing and car designer. Here, he’s mentioned because he told a story about how people viewed certain Shelby race cars right after they finished racing.
Pete Brock was a prominent American automotive designer and racing figure, best known for creating the Chevrolet Corvette C3-era design direction and for his broader influence in sports-car racing. In this segment, he’s used as a source for a story about the Shelby Daytona cars and their early post-race treatment.
collectability back in the day of the 60s
"And we didn't think about the collectability back in the day of the 60s, like what they are today."
They’re saying that in the 1960s, people didn’t think about these race cars as future collector items. Only later did collectors realize how rare and important they were, which made them valuable.
The “collectability” idea here is about how the collector value of certain 1960s racing cars wasn’t recognized immediately after their racing careers. The market later re-rated these cars as historically significant, rare survivors, which is why stories about what people did “back then” matter.
all in
"What's interesting about these GTOs is that the one famously just sold for 38.5 all in at Mecom."
“All in” means the final total you pay at auction after fees—so it’s the real cost, not just the base bid.
“All in” in auction talk means the total price including the buyer’s premium and other fees, not just the hammer price. It’s a way to compare what different cars truly cost to the buyer.
right hand drive
"I think that was appropriate price, mostly because it's a right hand drive, which if you're going to race it in period, that's desirable."
Right-hand drive means the steering wheel is on the right side of the car. Some collectors prefer it because it can be closer to how the car was originally set up for certain places or racing.
Right-hand drive (RHD) means the steering wheel is on the right side of the car. For period racing and certain historical contexts, RHD can be considered more desirable because it matches how many cars were configured for specific markets and racing grids.
original engine
"And then it wasn't the original engine. It's interesting to see because from a market trend perspective,"
Collectors care a lot about whether the car still has its original engine. If it doesn’t, some buyers see it as less authentic, which can change the price.
In collector-car terms, “original engine” refers to whether the car still has its factory engine (or a historically correct matching unit). When a car is “not the original engine,” it can reduce originality and affect value because buyers often pay premiums for provenance and matching components.
collector car market pricing (GTO auction results)
"So when one of those quote unquote front of the pack GTOs come to a public sale, I'm really curious to see, will it be a $70 million car? Will it be a $60 million car?"
The hosts discuss how Ferrari GTO values move through the collector market, including comparisons across decades (50s vs 60s Ferraris) and what a “front of the pack” GTO might fetch at auction. This is essentially a pricing-and-demand discussion tied to auction timing and car specifics.
Ferrari 288 GTO
"...ce is the young guys that love the Enzo's and the 288 GTOs and all the hypercars. And so I love the fact tha..."
The Ferrari 288 GTO is a rare Ferrari supercar. It’s known for being very fast and for having a special place in Ferrari history. People mention it because it’s a recognizable, highly desired classic performance car.
The Ferrari 288 GTO is a rare, high-performance Ferrari built for serious driving and motorsport heritage. The podcast context ties it to younger enthusiasts who are drawn to iconic hypercars, including the 288 GTO. It’s significant because it’s both visually distinctive and historically important within Ferrari’s performance lineup.
rest-o-mod reimagining
"We had Singer, but now there's Avaludo, there's Superleggera. All these companies are doing Volvos, FIATs. They're doing these high-end rest-o-mod reimagining of vehicles, but he did this Ferrari Dino."
A restomod is a classic car that gets restored, but also improved with newer parts or technology. The goal is usually to make it more fun and easier to drive than the original, while keeping the classic look.
“Restomod” (restoration + modification) refers to rebuilding a classic car while upgrading it with modern engineering—often for drivability, reliability, and performance. The host frames it as a newer trend, contrasting it with earlier custom builds like the Dino before today’s wave of boutique reimagined classics.
Ferrari Dino
"Okay, we're back. One of the cars that I really liked was a custom build, if you will. A modified car. His Dino. He had his black Dino with the red interior. I saw it at Pebble Beach one year... but he did this Ferrari Dino. The Dino is up on Bring a Trailer."
A Ferrari Dino is a famous Ferrari model line known for being a lightweight, sporty, enthusiast favorite. Here, the host is talking about a special custom Dino build that was shown at Pebble Beach and is now listed for sale.
A Ferrari Dino is a small-displacement, performance-focused Ferrari line that’s especially prized in the collector world. In this segment, the host highlights a custom Dino build with a black exterior and red interior that he saw at Pebble Beach, and connects it to the modern “restomod” trend of high-end reimaginings.
covered headlights
"Obviously, the covered headlights, which that looks stunningly gorgeous. I know Kip Wesenko... He has a Dino. He bought it in 1974, used, and it had the covered headlights on it."
Covered headlights are headlights that sit behind a cover or housing. They change the front of the car a lot, and collectors notice them because they can look very “period correct.”
Covered headlights are headlamp housings that use a cover or fairing over the lights rather than leaving them fully exposed. On classic Ferraris, this detail strongly affects the car’s front-end look and is often part of how specific factory or period-correct styling is judged.
F40 engine
"Isn't that a F40 engine in there? Is that what's in there? [1969.8s] Yes, I thought that's what it is. He has..."
The F40 is a famous Ferrari supercar. When they say “F40 engine,” they mean they’re checking whether this other car has an F40’s engine inside, which would be a major upgrade and could affect value.
The F40 is Ferrari’s iconic mid-engine supercar, and “F40 engine” here means the speaker is wondering whether the car has an engine from that F40. That’s a big deal in collector terms because an engine swap can dramatically change both performance and value versus a more original setup.
Ferrari F40
"...ink it's nice. It's tastefully done. Isn't that a F40 engine in there? Is that what's in there? Yes, I ..."
The Ferrari F40 is a very famous, very fast supercar. People pay attention to it because it’s known for being exciting and because its design and engine are closely tied to its identity. It’s the kind of car collectors recognize immediately.
The Ferrari F40 is a legendary, high-performance supercar known for its raw, driver-focused character and iconic design. The podcast context referencing the “F40 engine” highlights how closely enthusiasts associate the car’s appearance with its performance hardware. It’s often discussed because it’s one of the most recognizable Ferraris and a major collector benchmark.
MoTeC fuel injection standalone EFI system
"The engine was rebuilt with great parts. It's got a complete MoTeC fuel injection standalone EFI system. Probably one of the only Ferraris of this era that actually runs well."
MoTeC is a brand of aftermarket engine computer. A “standalone EFI system” means the car’s fuel injection is controlled by its own dedicated computer, which can make an older car run smoother and more reliably.
MoTeC is an aftermarket engine management brand, and a “standalone EFI system” means the car uses its own dedicated electronic fuel-injection control rather than relying on the original factory ECU. This kind of setup is often used to improve drivability and reliability, especially on older cars with modified or rebuilt engines.
preservation class
"Now, there is a preservation class. You walk into the auction, you look at the preview, and you find the one with the bird's nest sitting in between on the manifold, and it's full of dirt and whatever."
A “preservation class” is a category where judges prefer cars that look more original and not overly restored. The idea is to keep the car’s history visible, even if it isn’t perfectly clean.
A “preservation class” at auctions or concours events is a judging category that rewards cars that are kept in a more original, un-restored state—even if that means showing age, patina, or minor imperfections. The host contrasts this with their own preference, noting how presentation and condition can be interpreted differently depending on the class.
Bring a Trailer
"And I bring it up because this car, by the way, on Bring a Trailer, photographed well, so well, presents so well, everything."
Bring a Trailer is a popular website where car enthusiasts buy and sell cars through auctions. They’re referencing it because the listing photos and presentation matter a lot there.
Bring a Trailer is an enthusiast auction platform known for detailed listings and strong collector interest in classic and modified cars. The host mentions it because the car’s photos and overall presentation on the site are part of why the listing performs well.
package tray
"But then you start looking at it going, you know what, like the package tray in the back was never really cleaned."
A package tray is the panel behind the back seats. If it’s dirty, damaged, or poorly finished, it can be a sign the car wasn’t cleaned or restored carefully.
A package tray is the rear deck panel behind the seats (often on coupes) that can include trim, speaker openings, and upholstery. In collector-car auctions, condition details on the package tray matter because they’re visible and can signal whether the interior was properly restored.
speaker grill
"And it's got like a speaker grill and it's cracked. And, you know, the fuel lines have, you know, the wrong crimps on it."
A speaker grille is the cover over the car’s speakers. If it’s cracked or not finished right, it can make the interior look less carefully restored.
A speaker grille is the protective cover over an audio speaker, usually with a specific pattern and finish. In auction prep, cracked or mismatched grilles are “presentation” issues that can reduce perceived originality and restoration quality.
fuel lines
"And it's got like a speaker grill and it's cracked. And, you know, the fuel lines have, you know, the wrong crimps on it."
Fuel lines are the tubes that move gas from the tank to the engine. If the connections look wrong, it can suggest the car wasn’t put together carefully.
Fuel lines are the hoses/pipes that carry fuel from the tank to the engine. The host’s point is that incorrect “crimps” on fuel-line fittings can indicate sloppy work or non-original parts, which can hurt confidence and auction results.
wrong crimps
"And, you know, the fuel lines have, you know, the wrong crimps on it. But overall, like pretty nice."
A crimp is how a hose connection is clamped and sealed. If the crimp looks wrong, it can mean the connection wasn’t made correctly or with the right parts.
A “crimp” is the pressed metal connection used to secure a hose to a fitting. In restoration and auction inspection, the “wrong crimps” can be a tell that the fuel-line assembly wasn’t done with the correct hardware or technique.
Broad Arrow
"I'm talking about the, you know, the big live auctions, Broad Arrow, RM Sotheby's, Gooding, Bonhams, like the ones you'd see all"
Broad Arrow is a company that runs high-end collector car auctions. The host mentions it as one of the big auction players where cars are judged closely.
Broad Arrow is a collector-car auction brand associated with high-end sales and specialist marketing. In the discussion, it’s grouped with other major auction houses to illustrate the “big live auctions” where presentation and provenance matter.
RM Sotheby's
"the big live auctions, Broad Arrow, RM Sotheby's, Gooding, Bonhams, like the ones you'd see all"
RM Sotheby’s is a famous auction company that sells collector cars. The host brings it up to compare the big auctions where details and preparation can really matter.
RM Sotheby’s is a well-known luxury collector-car auction house. Here it’s referenced as part of the major live-auction ecosystem, where sellers may use brokers and where small presentation flaws can affect buyer perception.
Gooding
"Broad Arrow, RM Sotheby's, Gooding, Bonhams, like the ones you'd see all"
Gooding is an auction company that sells collector cars. It’s mentioned as one of the big auction houses in the same category as RM Sotheby’s.
Gooding is a collector-car auction house brand. In this segment it’s mentioned alongside other major auction houses to emphasize the difference between specialist, high-end auctions and high-volume sales.
Bonhams
"RM Sotheby's, Gooding, Bonhams, like the ones you'd see all around."
Bonhams is an auction house that sells collector items, including cars. The host lists it with other big car auction brands to set the context.
Bonhams is an established auction house that also runs collector-car auctions. The host uses it as an example of the major live-auction brands where cars are evaluated with an emphasis on condition and presentation.
Barrett Jackson auction
"Meekum auction, Barrett Jackson auction, they get really good cars. You know, David Lee's $38"
Barrett-Jackson is a famous auction where lots of collector cars are sold. The host uses it to show that big auctions can still sell hundreds of cars in a short time.
Barrett-Jackson is a major collector-car auction brand known for large crowds and high-profile sales. The host mentions it to illustrate that even auctions with strong reputations can move a lot of cars quickly.
Meekum auction
"And even the famous ones, like you think of every Meekum auction, Barrett Jackson auction, they get really good cars."
Meekum is a collector-car auction the host mentions as an example of a big, well-known auction. The point is that even famous auctions can include cars with different levels of prep.
Meekum is referenced as a well-known auction event in the collector-car world. It’s used to contrast “famous” auctions that still sell a mix of cars, including ones that may be less meticulously prepped.
Honda Civic
"...at week. And some of them are like a stock on the Civic. This is kind of low miles. You know, what's your..."
The Civic is a small car made by Honda. It’s designed to be efficient and easy to use for daily driving. People may mention it in auctions when they find one with low miles or good condition.
The Honda Civic is a compact car that’s popular for its efficiency, practicality, and long-running model history. In collector or auction discussions, it may come up when someone points out a low-mileage example or a specific trim. It’s significant because many Civics are common, but well-kept, low-mileage cars can still stand out.
presentation of bringing a car to auction
"What's your feeling on the presentation of bringing a car to auction? Like how far do you go?"
They’re talking about how much work you should do to a car before selling it at auction. The idea is to balance “make it look great” with “don’t overspend” on restoration.
This segment focuses on how much effort sellers should put into cosmetic and detail work before auction. The host frames it as a trade-off between fully restoring the car versus doing targeted cleaning and repairs to maximize buyer confidence and final price.
frame off restoration
"Maybe I don't have to do a frame off restoration, but let's clean this car. Let's maybe dry ice blast this car."
A frame-off restoration is the most extreme kind of restoration, where the car is taken apart down to the frame and rebuilt. The point here is that you might not need to go that far just to make the car look its best for sale.
A frame-off restoration is a deep restoration where the car is stripped down to the bare chassis/frame and rebuilt from that foundation. The host contrasts it with lighter “presentation” work, arguing you may not need a frame-off job if the goal is to make the car look right for auction.
dry ice blast
"Maybe I don't have to do a frame off restoration, but let's clean this car. Let's maybe dry ice blast this car."
Dry ice blasting is a cleaning technique that uses tiny pellets of dry ice to knock off grime. It’s used in car detailing/restoration to clean without soaking or aggressive abrasion.
Dry ice blasting is a cleaning method that uses pellets of solid carbon dioxide to remove dirt and residue without wet chemicals. It’s often used in restoration prep because it can clean surfaces while minimizing damage compared with harsher blasting media.
spread stitches
"Let's maybe dry ice blast this car. Let's fix any, you know, tears or spread stitches and stuff on the interior"
“Spread stitches” means the seams in the upholstery aren’t tight anymore. Repairing them helps the interior look clean and professionally finished.
“Spread stitches” refers to sewing seams in upholstery that have come apart, loosened, or are no longer tight and aligned. In auction prep, fixing upholstery stitching is part of making the interior look properly restored and cared for.
Monterey auction
"But then if you're going to like, you know, a Monterey auction or a Milly Island auction or whatever, it just depends on the price point..."
They’re referencing a major collector-car auction scene around Monterey Car Week. Because the buyers are different (and often wealthier), the same car can sell for more or less depending on where it’s auctioned.
“Monterey auction” refers to collector-car auctions held around Monterey Car Week in California. These events often attract high-end buyers, so the same car can bring different money depending on the event’s audience and timing.
Milly Island auction
"But then if you're going to like, you know, a Monterey auction or a Milly Island auction or whatever, it just depends on the price point..."
They mention another big auction event besides Monterey. The main idea is that different auction venues have different buyers, which changes how much a car might sell for.
“Milly Island auction” appears to be a reference to a specific high-profile collector-car auction event (likely mis-transcribed). The point in context is that auction prestige and buyer pool influence pricing and strategy.
online auction or live auction
"I tell people, you know, if you're looking between online auction or live auction, to me, it depends on the car."
They’re talking about two ways to sell collector cars: bidding online or bidding in person. Some cars are easier to judge from photos and listings, while others really need a live viewing to get the best money.
The host compares online auctions versus live auctions for collector cars. The key difference is how much the buyer can inspect in person and how the auction format affects bidding confidence and final price.
fluffing buff
"For years, they were just fluffing buff, throw them out there, don't fix anything, you know."
“Fluffing buff” describes superficial prep for auction—cleaning and detailing without addressing mechanical or structural issues. In collector-car terms, it can mislead buyers and hurt trust, even if the car looks great in photos.
running and driving
"we want to get the car up and running at minimum, because sometimes you'll run into a situation with a widow and she has a car that's 12 years old and I'm like, get at least running and driving."
They’re saying the car should at least be able to start and move under its own power. At auction, that matters because buyers feel safer bidding when the car isn’t a non-running project.
“Running and driving” is a collector-car condition target meaning the car can start, move under its own power, and be driven safely enough to demonstrate. Auction sellers often prioritize this because it reduces buyer risk and can increase bidding confidence.
fine line
"So it really, really does depend. I mean, you could go crazy, you know, spending money and fortune to get it just right, that would never be realized. So it is kind of like a fine line."
They’re talking about balancing how much money you put into getting the car ready versus what you can realistically get back at auction. Spend too little and it sells cheap; spend too much and you won’t recover the cost.
The host describes a “fine line” between spending money to prepare a car for auction and overspending beyond what the market will pay back. It’s a strategy concept: optimize condition and presentation without chasing unlimited restoration costs.
57 Thunderbird
"And this is, you know, anyone who dreamt of a 57 Thunderbird is selling their 57 Thunderbird, right?"
The 1957 Ford Thunderbird is a famous classic Ford from the 1950s. Collectors care a lot whether it runs and how complete it is, because that affects what people will pay.
The 1957 Ford Thunderbird is a classic American personal-luxury coupe that’s become a collector favorite. In collector-car pricing, whether a car runs (and how well it runs) can swing the value dramatically, especially for iconic models like this.
Duesenberg
"And so, you know, if you take not a Duesenberg, but like, you know, a pre-war Lincoln to Monterey at no reserve, you might get hit, you know?"
Duesenberg is a famous old luxury car brand that collectors really want. The host is using it as an example of how certain big-name classics can sell differently at auction.
Duesenberg is a luxury car brand known for high-end pre-war American cars that are extremely desirable among collectors. In this discussion, it’s used as an example of a marquee name that can behave differently at auction depending on reserve and buyer demand.
no reserve
"And so, you know, if you take not a Duesenberg, but like, you know, a pre-war Lincoln to Monterey at no reserve, you might get hit, you know?"
“No reserve” means there’s no minimum price. The car will sell to the highest bidder even if the final price is lower than you hoped.
“No reserve” means the seller sets no minimum price, so the car sells to the highest bidder regardless of how low bidding goes. In collector auctions, this can increase attention, but it also increases the risk of selling for less than expected if the right buyers aren’t bidding.
no sale
"I mean, now, this could pop at the end or it could be a no sale. Like, we don't know."
“No sale” means the auction didn’t result in a deal. The car didn’t sell because bidding didn’t reach what the seller was willing to accept.
“No sale” is an auction outcome where the car doesn’t meet the seller’s minimum requirement (often tied to reserve or bid thresholds). It highlights that auction pricing can be uncertain—especially when the market is shifting or the car isn’t currently “in demand.”
rest of mod
"So as a rest of mod one worth that much more, you could look at 964 Porsches with Singer and say, yes, they are."
“Restomod” (spoken here as “rest of mod”) describes a classic car that’s been restored and modified with modern upgrades—often to improve drivability, reliability, and performance. In collector pricing, a restomod can command a premium if the upgrades are high-quality and tastefully executed.
964 Porsches with Singer
"you could look at 964 Porsches with Singer and say, yes, they are. But I think it kind of comes down to the engine, honestly, a little bit."
A “964” is a specific Porsche 911 generation. Singer is a company that takes classic Porsches and rebuilds them to a very high standard, which can make them worth far more than a regular version.
A “964” refers to the Porsche 911 (964 generation), and Singer is a well-known restomod builder that creates high-end, modernized versions of classic Porsches. The host is using this example to argue that certain engine/overall build choices can justify very high prices in the collector market.
Singer engines
"Singer engines are just over the top, incredible, really beefed up compared to the factory one. I'm not quite sure on this one. It looks like it's been beefed up quite a bit, pretty cool."
Singer is a company that takes certain Porsche cars and upgrades them a lot. So “Singer engines” means the engine has been modified and improved beyond what it was from the factory.
Singer is an aftermarket restomod builder known for heavily reworking Porsche 911s, including substantial engine upgrades. When the host says “Singer engines,” they’re referring to those modified powerplants that are more “beefed up” than the original factory setup.
market trend valuation
"But there's not, I don't know, it's tough. Like, Singers, you have a market trend valuation because there's quite a few of them out there now that have traded publicly."
This is basically “what are these cars selling for lately?” Instead of guessing one price, you look at recent sales and trends to estimate what the market thinks it’s worth.
In collector-car talk, “market trend valuation” means estimating a car’s worth based on how similar cars are selling over time. It’s less about a single appraisal and more about what the market is currently paying for that exact type of car (and its condition, provenance, and modifications).
traded publicly
"because there's quite a few of them out there now that have traded publicly. This one will be interesting. I think it's a good sign it's already at 900."
“Traded publicly” here means the cars are changing hands in visible, documented ways—like auctions or dealer sales—rather than only private deals. Public trading creates more price data, which can tighten valuation ranges for a specific collector-car niche.
entry point
"Yeah. What's so brilliant about Singer is your entry point was so much cheaper than what these other ones are, right?"
In plain terms, “entry point” is the first price you’d pay to get into that kind of car. The host is saying Singer was cheaper to start with than some other cars people compare it to.
“Entry point” in a collector market is the starting price level where buyers can first get into that category. The host argues Singer’s early pricing was lower than other similar modified/collector cars, which helped create demand and later price growth.
hot rod
"you're Boyd Cottington in the 80s and the 90s, you build a hot rod 10 years later to bear Jackson for, you know, 30 cents on the dollar if you're lucky."
A hot rod is an older car that someone modifies to make it faster and more exciting. Here, it’s used as an example of how custom builders can become more valuable over time.
A hot rod is a car modified for performance and style, typically by upgrading an older platform rather than keeping it stock. In the collector context here, the host is comparing how aftermarket builders used to create value and how that value is now being recognized more by buyers.
Boyd Cottington
"you're Boyd Cottington in the 80s and the 90s, you build a hot rod 10 years later to bear Jackson for, you know, 30 cents on the dollar if you're lucky."
This is a well-known custom car builder. The host is saying that early on, builders like him didn’t always get paid what their work would be worth later.
Boyd Coddington (spoken as “Boyd Cottington”) is a famous custom car builder associated with the rise of celebrity hot-rod building in the late 20th century. The host uses him as an example of how builder recognition and collector value can change over time.
bear Jackson
"you build a hot rod 10 years later to bear Jackson for, you know, 30 cents on the dollar if you're lucky."
This refers to a major collector car auction brand. The host is using it to illustrate how custom cars can be undervalued early and then become more valuable later.
“Bear Jackson” is almost certainly a reference to Barrett-Jackson, the well-known collector car auction company. The host is describing how custom cars were often sold for a fraction of their eventual value when they were later auctioned.
Ring Brothers
"If you're, you know, if you're the Ring Brothers, you're, you know, you're not, you're not paying the Ring Brothers and then selling it to bear Jackson and making money,"
Ring Brothers is a company that builds and sells high-end custom cars. The host is saying that big-name builders can end up buying cars and then selling them later as the market matures.
Ring Brothers is a custom/collector car builder known for high-end restomods and performance-focused builds. The host mentions them as an example of a buyer/seller ecosystem where top builders can be involved in acquiring cars and later monetizing them.
Ford Bronco
"... really, really incredible. So, you know, an icon Bronco does well at auction, you know, in the aftermarke..."
The Bronco is a type of SUV built for rough roads and off-road adventures. Some Broncos are especially sought after by collectors, so they can sell strongly at auctions. People talk about them because they’re known for being tough and capable.
The Ford Bronco is a rugged SUV that’s become an icon for off-road capability and outdoor-focused driving. The podcast context suggests it’s discussed in the collector market, where certain Broncos can do well at auction—often driven by desirability and condition. It’s a frequent topic because the Bronco name carries strong brand recognition and a large enthusiast following.
aftermarket
"an icon Bronco does well at auction, you know, in the aftermarket when what you paid for it versus what it's selling for."
The aftermarket is the “after you buy it” market—things like upgrades, modifications, and resale demand. The host is using it to say that some collector cars keep gaining value even after they’ve been built and sold.
In automotive, the aftermarket refers to the market for parts and modifications sold outside the original manufacturer’s production. Here, the host uses it to describe how collector-car values can change after the initial purchase, depending on demand and modifications/build quality.
Chevrolet Corvette
"... you were buying them, you know. What's who's the Corvette guy, the C2 guy that Jeff Hayes or Mays, he does ..."
The Corvette is a sports car from Chevrolet. Different years and generations have different looks and features, and some are especially popular with collectors. It’s discussed a lot because it’s built for performance and has a big fan community.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a long-running American sports car known for performance and for being a serious enthusiast platform. The podcast mention of “the C2 guy” points to the C2 generation, which is a specific era that collectors often target. Corvettes come up frequently because they have a strong following and many versions have distinct identities.
Hagerty Evaluation Index
"I'm curious to see how the, you know, you look at the Hagerty Evaluation Index, if it's going to have Restama is broken out by builder in the future because it is such a wide range of quality out there."
The Hagerty Evaluation Index is a tool that tries to measure how collectible car prices move over time. The host is saying it may need to account for who built the car, because that can change the value a lot.
The Hagerty Evaluation Index is Hagerty’s data-driven way of tracking how collector-car values change over time. The host is wondering whether the index will break out results by builder, because builder quality can create a wide range of outcomes for otherwise similar cars.
Hagerty Price Guide
"So it does kind of change things. You're right. Singers probably becoming its own category in something like the Hagerty Price Guide."
The Hagerty Price Guide is like a pricing reference for collectible cars. The host is saying that “Singer” cars might need their own category in that guide because their prices can follow a different pattern.
The Hagerty Price Guide is Hagerty’s pricing resource for collector cars, used to estimate market values. The host suggests that “Singers” may become their own category in the guide, reflecting how these builds can behave differently from other cars.
Eleanor
"Right. Yeah. Now, the opposite of that would be look at the like the B's nest of the Eleanor cars. It's like, oh my gosh, you got to have a guy wrenching in his garage."
“Eleanor” is a nickname collectors use for a specific famous car style. Some are built really well, and others are put together cheaply, so the quality matters a lot for price.
“Eleanor” is a famous collector-car reference tied to the movie car look—often used to describe Shelby-style “Eleanor” builds. Because these cars can range from high-quality restorations to low-quality recreations, their condition and build basis strongly influence value.
CR officially licensed recreations
"versus one of the, I think they're called CR officially licensed recreations, you know, but you know, it's like I was asked to appraise one the other day and I'm like, man, this could be a $150,000 car. This could be a $350,000 car."
This is talking about replica cars that were made with permission (a license). Collectors often care because licensed cars usually come with better documentation and more consistent build quality.
“CR officially licensed recreations” refers to replica cars built under an official licensing arrangement, rather than informal, unlicensed copies. Licensing can matter to collectors because it can affect authenticity, documentation, and how consistently the replica matches the original design.
appraise
"it's like I was asked to appraise one the other day and I'm like, man, this could be a $150,000 car. This could be a $350,000 car."
“Appraise” means to estimate what a car is worth. For collector cars, the price can swing a lot depending on how good the build is and what records exist.
“Appraise” here means estimating a collector-car’s market value based on condition, originality, documentation, and build quality. In the collector world, two cars with the same name can have very different values depending on how they were built and what’s provable.
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