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What? Say that again!
With mad scientist Scott Brown
I use my drill press as a sort of lathe
Our host, Neil Simpson
If one light goes on they all go out
And Philpuss shenanigans
We are really professional with Jeeps
This is I Speak Jeep
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Wherever, however you are joining us
This is the I Speak Jeep podcast
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My name is Neil
With Simpson Family Jeeps SFJ 4x4
And I'm joined in Grandma's couch studio
With the venerable, the decorated
Producer Jeff that can't get the clock
The Italian stallion who once again
For like the 11th episode
It doesn't even matter. It's like two years in
And we still just can't make this in-studio clock work
For our countdown timer. Remarkable
I want one that's just hit the button
Oh man, like the chess timer
Just a hard mechanical chess timer
No, because on your excited days
You will be smacking that down so hard
That's true
That it will break within the first two or three episodes
That's true. And then we'll be back to this thing
I get so fired up sometimes
I get such big feelings
I get such big feelings
Additionally, we have the maddest mad scientist
Coming off a cold
Doc Brown, yeah, took a day or two off
At the end of the week there
A day
Yeah, whatever
Felt like two
It's like when Jeffrey goes on vacation
13 years on vacation
Anywho's a what-set
That's so awesome that I go on vacation
And it's like I was gone longer than I've even worked here
10-year-olds
That tracks
In the comments, we got Nate with first
Saying good morning
I would expect nothing else
I know he was back at it this morning
Billy Joe saying good morning
Nate's asking how everyone's enjoying the snow
Daddy Jeep saying morning guys
Bill McWilliam saying good morning
Joe Bryan saying darn Nate
I expected Joe
Joe is the ultimate underdog
I mean, he shows up every single time
Just in the comments
Swinging
Always Nate about three to four behind
And then Jagadjeeper says good morning
And take away his Mickey Mouse watch
And get him a digital one
That's fair
Fair
Alright
Well today we are going to be, you know
Addressing the, you know, incredibly talked about
All pervasive weather system that is coming through
The United States
The entire US
Other than the west coast
Other than the west coast
No, they were complaining it was cold
Oh yeah, they got cold
But by standard of what the rest of the US got
Yeah, it was pretty underwhelming
Yeah, it was like, you know, 50 or 60 or something
They were really cold
Oh no, oh no
Yeah, and then ultimately, and I know we have
A number of acquaintances in the good customer base
And listenership in the Florida region
But James Highlands and our Hemi TJ
Sent pictures of his beautiful pool
You know, open currently and said
You know, it was going to be 80 in Florida
They were poolside
But, yeah
But today's topic, in part
Is inspired by one of our customers
As we have most recently shared
Jeffrey had kind of alluded to the fact that
One of our customers had talked about wanting to know more
Or hear about audio systems, specifically in gladiators
But, you know, by extension newer vehicles
Today's topic, in part, is addressing jump packs
And jump starting, which may be more important
In these unprecedented times of extreme cold temperatures
Right, so I tried to throw as many cliche talking points
In there as possible, because that's what the news says
Yeah, yeah
So we are going to be talking about if they're cold
Or if you're cold, they're cold
And what that means and how it relates to your vehicle ownership
Now, if you're one of the lucky ducks
Who, you know, garages your vehicle
This might be slightly less pertinent
Unless you're in one of the unfortunate places
Without power right now, I know there's hundreds of thousands
Without power
And there is lots to be conversated about here
There's a number of angles that we can explore this topic
As always, if you'd like to hear about our own personal lives
And my own personal take on the weather
We will talk about our weekend updates
Following the outro credits at the end of this program
So hang in there if you do so
Choose
Where do you want to start?
I mean, Doc, you always like to go back to the horse and buggy
Do we have to go quite back that far?
No, okay
Because realistically...
Unfortunately, I have the blanket on in the stall somewhere
There, he did it
But I know that if you wanted to talk jump packs
I feel like Scott's probably got some random knowledge
Of this 1930s version of a jump pack
What you used to do is you take the oil out of the car
And you go warm it up in the house
And then pour it back in
So the car would start first thing in the cold morning
So we're glad we don't have to do that anymore
Yeah
Alright, so
And on that note, wonderful
I have really enjoyed seeing
Authentically arctic temperature individuals
Who are living, you know, maybe a little more off-grid
Or are individuals who are on the oil gas fracking industry
More in the northern areas
Showing how they're trying to warm up their vehicles
By building these tents and small wood burners
Or having a torpedo heater
And trying to concentrate and keep that heat
Under the front end of their engine
And warm up their engine
Before they even attempt to turn the key
And they talk about if it's a wood fire
And you're doing it kind of the oldest way possible
You could have a wood fire going in there
Between two and four hours
Torpedo heaters need roughly 30 to 45 minutes
To get that confined space up to temperature
Likewise, I think that certainly generationally
We have a lot of recollection of the
Fun covers people used to put on the grills
Of their vehicles, and I certainly remember
Our school buses having that
And of course, if you were just an enterprising
Local farmer or individual, you just went out
And you found yourself some cardboard
Or a piece of plywood that you would wire
Twine a wire tie to the grill of your vehicle
Why would people do that?
Because you don't need airflow right now
Yeah, and so ultimately
We have this recollection of these blankets
Or these provisions at which we did
Well, then we got to this point in society
Where we would go out and we would pre-heat our vehicles
And of course, big truck drivers and diesel guys
They might let their truck idle through the night sometimes
And a lot of trucks have shutters that will shut or open
On the grill
And just because you made me to 30s cars
Like my 36, it was an option to get a Pines
Winter front grill
That you could block off most or all the radiator
And now if you have one for like a 32 Ford
It's worth like $3,000
Of course it is
And people are just buying it for the aesthetics
Yeah, it's just fun to own
But they would have a cable inside you would pull
And it would shut or open
Sure, so
Sure, sure, sure
Well, and so we went to this
This warming up the vehicle conversation
To, within the last decade
Being told that warming up the vehicle is unnecessary
And I think that it will be valuable to talk about
Why that might be as well in our progressive talking points
I had a good friend just recently
You know, talk about how all the auto manufacturers
Many of them at this point in time
Remote start is almost standard, right?
Almost, it's not actually standard
I need you to know that
It's actually gone so far that now it's subscription based
In some capacities because that subscription
Is Wi-Fi related or app related
So that as the plane is descending
Into the subarctic Cleveland airport
You know, and you start because you paid extra for the Wi-Fi
You can actually remote start your vehicle via your phone
You know what I mean?
Yeah, but it's gone to the extreme that it's only on your phone
You don't get remote start on the key fob
In the key fob
Yeah
Right, that's your Subaru, isn't it?
That's my parents too
Yep
So we've got this weird discrepancy, right?
We've got these technological advances
With these cumbersome talking points
And yet we have some what I would call
Just nuts and bolts of weather related challenges
Right, so like we have this root core conversation
Which is like electrical components don't love cold
Oil, viscous fluid
The viscosity of the oils, the potential antifreeze
Wind-shell washer fluids, you know, that kind of stuff
And what does that mean for the people who are using that product
Because of course our southern customers, listeners, friends
And family in the Jeep community
Do not necessarily need to pay for the extreme cold weather stuff
That might be normal for us
Just like snow load is different in, say, Texas
Trying to trigger me a little bit
Just like snow load, you know, building to code
Is, you know, kind of is different in Oklahoma
Than it is here in outside of the Great Lakes
Insulation values, right?
So we have these realities
And that is why then we blow up these big proportions
Because anything that then we, we are used to this
Yeah, right? This is kind of the norm for us
Yeah, you actually miss, because we're going to trigger Scott Moore
You miss one of the big talking points on building construction
And that's digging depth for freeze points
For frost lines
And now that there's an ice storm going in
Subarctic temperatures hitting, you know, southern areas
You know, that frost line can extend
Yeah, your foundational areas can heave, like you said
Or trees can explode
Which, that's also a thing
What? What are you talking about?
He wasn't on the internet today
I wasn't on the internet today
Ever, because this is the real thing that happened
My first day
The sap in the trees expands with the rapid freezing
And it'll actually, they don't like shoot
I wanted spontaneous explosion
But it sounds like a gun went off, it splits the tree
Some of them will fall in half, sometimes it'll drop branches
If you're near one when it does it, it'll scare the crap out of you
Huh, go figure
Well, so we all have this, like I said, this loosey-goosey experience
And we go back to kind of a rudimentary technology
We go back from the 30s
And I hate to even say this, but really, arguably up to the 80s
Because we have a lot of mechanical, naturally aspirated vehicles
With low electric demand in the grand scheme of the world
Right, and we're talking Bell Curve, right?
Because Lincoln and Cadillac and Mercedes and all those folks
Yeah, they were playing with electronics and more sensitive technologies
You know, decades and decades and decades before the rest of us
But this is a Jeep off-road podcast
And so for us, we were still in the Stone Age
And realistically, being able to choke your carbon-motated vehicle
Was a critically important part of the start-up process
And then, God forbid, you had any moisture in your fuel
As we know from Saturday, I had to bring the tractor in
To let the tractor thaw out for purposes of preparing to plow and whatnot
Because I got the water in my fuel filter code
Because, of course, my tractor shansy
Gellin' in Magellan
It wasn't Gellin', you know what I mean?
It probably was frozen right around, you know, probably the water particularly
Had frozen at the sensor, and of course, you know, had tripped the sensor
And, you know, I was venting to Jeffrey and Greg
I only used pump gas, pump diesel at that rate
And we talked about how there is an acceptable moisture content
Or water content in fuel
That's a given
We don't want to exactly talk about that as automobile enthusiasts
But that's why they make products like dry gas
It is
And a form of, you know, dry gas or stable
Or any of these fuel additives that have some type of, you know, bonding
Snake oil stuff in them to try and help some of the impurities
In our pump tank fuel that is permissible by law
Of course, back in the day, when we had less weights and measures
That frozen fuel line could actually plug up
Your ability for your carbon rotator, the float or the bowl
Or the actual fuel line to function appropriately
Reasonably speaking, our new modern fuel injected vehicles
Have a little less to worry about unless you have
I was gonna say, it's a lot more rare to hear somebody had water in their fuel
That prevented them from starting it
But it does happen
Right? And it's not out of the question
And, you know, there's outliers to kind of every conversation, you know
So little less to be concerned about
But I do think that Jeffrey's talking point regarding the fuel additive
This is the time to use it, right?
This is the time to use it
And this is one of those things that if it works half as good as they market it to
Then you have taken a step in the right direction, you know
Of course, we have to talk about block heaters
Because our Canadian-born vehicles and Jeeps come standard with those
We actually found one underneath the hood of the Jeep last week
And I said, hmm, that went over to the door and it said imported by blah, blah, blah
A little further down and it had a little maple leaf on it
100%
It originated in the Great White North
That being said, I know you could
Even when like the 19 Cherokees were out
You could buy the block heater as part of it
And mine came that way at that time
Because it was just almost standard for those
So objectively, you know, covering fuel system
There's not tons and tons to move there
Because other than a little bit of particulate in the fuel
Gas won't freeze, diesel has the ability to gel
It slows down
Yeah, otherwise that's all you have to worry about
But I love the block heater conversation
Because quite frankly, there might be a number of people
Block heaters are not nearly that common
Unless you have a diesel, older diesel
And newer diesels do not always require them now
Older diesels dead
We had
And without getting way down the rabbit hole
Diesels don't have spark plugs
They don't use ignition
They don't make little explosions themselves
They use the compression of air
And more or less they need warm air to do that
So when the air is frigid
You can't start a diesel, right?
That's the summation of it
It doesn't start easily
So between glow plugs and grid heaters
Grid heaters and warmers and all that kind of stuff
And as you're saying that Charles just said
This is the first time he's ever had to plug in his diesel
Right, and of course Charles is from Texas for us
For those of you who listen in
And I think that's a great recommendation
And so block heaters, and this is the thing
My sister moves to Alaska in early 2000
Late 90s, early 2000s
They have heaters for their heaters
Yeah, and she drove a little Mazda
A little Mazda car
It was super cool
She's a super tough nut
Her and my mom packed up this little Mazda car
Why is it for the life of me?
A Mazda 3 was a little sedan
Four-door manual
It was a five-speed manual
Probably the Mazda 3, though
Yeah, I think it was a Mazda 3
I mean, dude, the thing had been on like 14-inch wheels
We put some new rubber on it
Loaded it down
Couldn't see out the back window
Took a cardboard sign
Put three cardboard signs on it
Alaska or bust
And her and my mom
Drove from just outside Cleveland, Ohio
To Fairbanks, Alaska
Camping alongside the road in a tent
And, you know, hotel as necessary every couple days
That is quite the drive
It's quite the drive, right?
And my sister just packed up everything she had
And just moved to Alaska, right?
Obvi...
Obvi, that car was not a good Alaskan vehicle, right?
So she ends up buying a nice S10 Blazer
And it had a block heater on it
And this was...
I mean, I'm a teenager
And other than some loosey-goosey stuff
From some diesel tractors and stuff like that
I was not particularly familiar
So for those of you who are listening
We as a society have tried this
You were talking about your oil conversation
There was one...
It was a tube that slipped down your dipstick
That one liked to catch on fire
I need you to know that one was the dangerous one
Because Farmer Jim Bob would rip it out of his...
He would not appropriately install it
His electrical connections would not be great
It would be too close to the mechanical fan
Or some type of moving thing
And the wires would chafe
Or he would rip it out when unnecessary
To check the oil, actually
And it would get damaged
And then you had an exposed electrical element
Next to oil
Or in oil
Or in the oil, right?
And so that product
While on the market for a long time
Is not one that we recommend you use
If you find it still lingering around out there
There was, at one time, conversations
About regulating that product
And not making it available to domestic markets
I don't know if you can or can't get that anymore
It was in part stores up to like ten years ago
I agree with you
I agree with you
The next most common block heater conversation
Is basically a patch
That adheres to a primary side of the block
And think of it as a small heated blanket
That adheres to...
They usually put those on oil pans
You can also put it on your battery
On your transmission pan
If you're in Alaska, you have all those
Correct
And then you have a power strip
You plug everything into
And if I recall, that one was the one my sister had
And then there was some actual
Threaded, bung, mechanical
Or electric mechanical heaters
Which was probably the most permanent insulation
Which you're going to see on diesel applications
Or some gas gas
Canadian jeeps
Or if you're Scott Brown
Right
Well, the cool thing is my sister
Real quick, Jeffrey, before you get this
To finish up the story
Two things were true
One, you could just go to any store
And the vehicles were just running outside
And that was a very, very common place
I experienced that this weekend
Just ourselves at the local dollar general
Five vehicles running but empty as it could be
You're relying on your fellow man
Not to steal your vehicle in the middle of the frigid Arctic
Two, there was actually extension cords
Provided by, like, the local convenience store
The local hardware store, the local grocery store
And so you would pull your vehicle up to, you know
Is that where the idea of plug-in hybrid came from?
Well, and I think there's a good joke there
Right? I think there's a good joke there
And your workplace would have extension cords
So that you would go to work
And you would not have your vehicle
Sit there and idle all day necessarily
You would plug your vehicle
And that's part of your work-life, personal-life experience
Super kind of fun thing that I was exposed to
Alright, so in the comments we got Zach saying
He was disappointed to discover that his 23 JTDR
Far-out edition did not come standard with a block heater
Had to buy it from the dealer
No way
Jeanie said good morning that she's late
And then, Red, he's got a story here
He says you could always just have your alternator fry
And not unhook it in time while it kills your brand-new battery
And melt wires
Yeah, that is how jeeps burn down
We want to avoid that
Which is why the conversation about, you know
Zach buying the appropriate block heater
Or, you know, our recommendation not to buy the dipstick one
In a pinch would be, you know, recommended in part
And then a tie-in to going to Circle K and all the cars running
Ohio felt the need to release a thing
But they just, like normal, chose their words poorly
And it was, you should not let your vehicle puff
No, it did not
During the storm, they did
They did that on purpose
Yes
That's awesome
And people are like, what is puffing?
And basically it is, you're not supposed to, you know
Let your vehicle sit and run for a long period of time
It's not good for it
It's not good for the carbon monoxide build-up that can happen
The one that I thought was the best though
Is I don't remote-start my car for it
Or you remote-start it for me
And it's like, I feel seen
That was a comment, somebody put
Because people are like, oh, you don't need to do that now
With the newer vehicles
And it's actually bad for the engine
And this person's like, kind of don't give a fig about all that
So this is that opportunity for us to transition
Into why this discourse exists
Because I did loosely mention
Again, the school bus and the cardboard we put on the front
Because we don't need wind flow across the engine
Which was because they were diesels
And even our car application
We were trying to build up heat
So that the engine came up to temperature
It ran a little more efficient
If there was moisture in the fuel lines
It was not freezing or blocking anything off
It got burned off
Right, it got burned off
We were doing that with intentionality
To help the vehicle be more efficient
I stand upon the soapbox
And say that was a thing
Likewise, semi-trucks that were idling through the night
There's countless RVers and HDT RVers
Which is people who buy HD trucks
Class 8 trucks and try to RV out of them
There's people who don't know what they don't know
And they go out and they're in Colorado
Or they're in Wyoming
They're in higher elevation areas, I should say
And they go to bed and they shut the truck off
And then the next morning they wake up
And there's, you know, 8 to 10 inches of snow
And Starbucks airs have, you know
That's a different weather pattern
And the vehicle just says, nope, I'm not starting
Right?
That's because our trucking industry experienced this
I don't know, 60 years ago and they just knew better
And so that's why the truck ran overnight
Because they could then wake up and go about their day
So modern day vehicles
God, do not need warmed up
The tolerances of which they are manufactured
Are tighter and so therefore
The ability for them to computer regulate
And come up to temperature in a controlled manner
Is more efficient, it's faster
And does not require
That natural, ambient, organic manner
In which you bring a vehicle up to temperature
That being said, on the really cold days
I still try to let mine run for a minute or two
Before I immediately drive out of the driveway
And start revving on it
So that's a best practice
Right now I'm standing on my soapbox
Manufacturers will tell you
That does not need to be warmed up
That's because the bell curve of people don't
They started up and as the starters disengaging
They're putting it in gear and they're going down the road
I'm gonna get back on my soapbox
And talk about folks, if you own a Jeep
If you own a Jeep, don't do that
Mother Chrysler did not give us a vehicle
That was particularly robust to do exactly what Scott said
If they do do that, they should be penalized
And make them drive O3 through O6 TJ
With an automatic
And then they have to pause
And with that said
And I know this is a gross exaggeration
For our most modern JLs and JTs
But certainly the period of time
That you're disclosing and earlier
And quite frankly your early JKs
I'm gonna say all your JKs
Because until we go to the 8 speed transmission
And even with the 8 speed
I still, I get in, I start the engine
I sit for a couple seconds like Jeffery's saying
I put the automatic transmission shifter
Because I'm lazy, I hate to say
I'm not lazy about anything, I love an automatic
So whatever, I put it in the neutral
And I let the oil pump pump
Because of that TJ experience
And I encourage you now to do that exact thing
I will never forget the phone call
It was, you know, hey I go to take off
And it like delays and then
And then it slams
Yup, cause it doesn't pump in park
Yup, and the fluid's not moving
And it's thick, and it's maple syrup
And you need to actually get the pump
To start moving stuff around, right?
So because of these tires all this
Because of the computer control
Because of all these things
There are actually detrimental factors
Like catalyst efficiency
So the problem is
Our catalytic converters
Our catalytic converters
Need to actually be at a high degree rating
Which happens more so under
Higher temperature, more in the 1500 degree range
Which actually only happens with greater RPMs
They call it a flash off point
Thank you
And so therefore sustained idle time
On a catalytic converter
Can actually lead to particulate build up
Now, if your cats are new
And your O2 sensors are new
And new enough
The likelihood of this is low
But if the vehicle is aging
And the efficiency of the catalyst material
Within the catalytic converters
And maybe the O2 sensors ability to accurately read
What's going on in there has diminished
Then you could end up with greater particulate build up
Likewise, because the tolerances within your cylinders
Are so tight by comparison
To the loosey-goosey stuff that we used to have
Under the carbon-motated vehicles
Sustained idling can create cylinder wash down
Now, basically, while we don't exactly think of this
There is a degree of lubricity that is happening
While the explosion is happening inside your
Each individual cylinder wall of the engine
And our tighter tolerances had actually
Some degree of oiling
I mean, looser tolerances
Looser tolerances, is what I said, tighter
Our looser tolerances back then
It would get up in there and lubricate things
It was more forgiving
You actually got some of that oil from the actual cylinder
From the actual crank case pushing up past the cylinder
Whereas our modern-day tighter tolerances
We really don't get a lot of that pushback
That blow by, that oil coming up
And helping lubricate the cylinder walls
We're relying on the lubricity of the fuel itself
And while there are detergents
And we've had a whole conversation about different types of oils
And viscous modifiers and yada-yada
There's less and less of that
So sustained idle combustion can actually reduce lubricity
And therefore damage the cylinder walls of your engine
Take it or leave it
That's a reality of why people say not to let your vehicle warm up
I do have a lot of comments coming in
Charles said he used to drive from Houston to Edmonton, Alberta
And the hotel that they stayed at had plugs located all throughout the parking lot
That's normal, right?
I appreciate you sharing that
Jeep and Joe said good morning from North Carolina
It's cold for us and he's got the diesel plugged in
And speaking of cold, it was 27 degrees on top of Big Island, Hawaii
I'm not even going to try to say the name of the island
And then he said he jumped out of the rental Jeep at Sunset
And the SFJ 4x4 Merry Christmas what he did well
All the tourists loved it and his white beard
And then Zach says I don't care how much diesel costs
I'll warm it up before I go out
Amen to that
Dylan asked what is your thoughts on the Gladiator with the Equal Diesel
Really thinking about buying one
So we'll go back to that in just a second
Daddy Jeep said if they don't need warmed up
Then why do they have a remote start and we'll come back to that as well
I answered that
That was a good say
No, we don't need to come back to it
Scott answered it
We're not doing it for the vehicle
We're doing it for ourselves
Creature comfort
That's why my steering wheel and my seat turned on automatic
Charles said driving a TJ and laughing
And then Redd also acknowledged that too
So back to Dylan on the Eco Diesel
I also mentioned we don't need heated seats or cooled seats
That is not for the vehicle
That is for me the occupant
And the manufacturer is not dumb
They recognize that that helps
Those creature comforts help sell vehicles
I think in a standard that should be in the vehicles
That is for the safety is heated mirrors
That's fair
I don't care about the heated seat or the steering wheel
Those are nice
But the heated mirrors
Man, I miss having heated mirrors
That makes a big difference in this kind of weather
You're absolutely right
Because my big trucks, my Ram had heated mirrors
The International has heated mirrors
That's really standard
Those are slightly older vehicles
With not all the bells and whistles
And you are factually correct
There's a visibility issue in your mirrors
If you don't have heated
And prior to ever owning a vehicle with heated mirrors
I did not recognize how dramatic of a difference it is
To have heated mirrors
And then you get used to having it
And then you switch back to non-heated mirrors
And you're like, how am I supposed to see?
That's fair
It's like delay wipers until you don't have them
You don't appreciate them
Correct
I was there once
So all of those things go into this hot, cold, extreme weather situation
Because those creature comforts
Much like remote starting the vehicle
Have seated themselves into our everyday vehicle expectations
Experience
Vehicle experience
Sure
And so we desire to have those things
Because if I was to go out
And I was to give the bell curve of our society
A rear wheel drive
Bias ply
Carbomertated
That would be at the end of days
It would be the end of days
Nope, there would be people dying
The hospitals would be packed
And that's, you know
Jeff would have to become a fireman again
That is a real and challenging reality to this situation
That these things exist for us, the consumer base
More so than the necessity and need of the vehicle itself
And it's a little off topic
But the thing that's pertinent is, you know
Because we just can't help ourselves
We're at a purveyor of every group we own
So I'm sure you're on tractor groups
For your specific tractor
I'm on for mine
That's a you and me thing
Just so you know
That's fair
I was gonna say
That's a you and me thing
But because of that
You see
Normal folk
You see the snapshot of society
That I've gone out and bought a diesel tractor
A lot of them have never owned a diesel before
I agree
Or you have the die hard
I'm the fix it my Crescent Ranch guy
And there was this whole hubbub
Because this is a nationwide thing
People are feeling of
Why doesn't my John Deere tractor have a block heater?
Yes
And why doesn't it, we're gonna start up right away
So we had both sides of the argument
And we had people having to explain
Like you see that little light
That comes on with the dash
And then that's your glow plugs
You gotta let it run
And then the other guy going
No, you really don't need a block heater
On these new diesels
Correct
Unless it's like Antarctica
Correct
Subarctic temperature
Which in some situations
We have seen that with
Some folks who are experiencing this weather system
And I'm gonna sidebar for a second
Because I feel like it needs to be said
I think that you're part of
It's part of your fault
Of some of my challenges
Because you and I met at a pretty young age
And I really thought the winner
Which we related to the world
And the idiosyncrasies that we fixated on
Was more normal
Yeah
Is Jeffrey saying?
Nope
Because you're right
I got all excited about
Undercoding the other day
Customer asked me about undercoding
I had to explain that I'm in the undercoding social pages
And the guy just kind of looked at me
And I was like, you know what
I'm just gonna be quiet now
Just gonna be quiet, you know
I was like, he likes to nerd out on that kind of stuff
Yeah, but anywho
You're absolutely right
And there are different technologies
Like
Actually like the international series built engines
They do not have
They do not have some type of glow plug
Or pre-heat operation on them
And really what it comes down to is
Whatever you've chosen for being your
Equipment or your daily vehicle
You need to research it and know what's important for it
You know, it is
Just because you had a diesel once
And it was this way doesn't mean it's this way now
Same way with a Jeep
Just because you once rode in an open top Jeep
At some point in your life does not mean
That is how it stands hold for your current Jeep
So, for example
If you had a TJ and it took 1030 oil
Well, that doesn't mean 1030 oil is right for your JL
Just because they both
When you squint, kind of look like the same vehicle
Doesn't mean they are the same vehicle
So if you have questions
Or maybe you should have questions
You should go and research that specific
And know what you need to do
Because when you don't
That costs you money
And time and effort and all that stuff
Which also costs you money
So as far as Jeffrey had started on the
Eco-Diesel conversation
I really have a special place in my heart
For the
The 3.0 Eco-Diesel
Amongst the
You know, Stellantis lineup
Now with that said
Before you go to that
I'm going to say I think the 3.0
Is the best diesel
They've ever put in the North American
Released Jeep
Compared to the other
Diesel's we've had options
So what Scott did there
Was he chose his words
Incredibly wisely
For our main
Market demographic
Because in the grand scheme
Of the world
Our diesel options have sucked
For 40, 50 years
And now this will make me
Get all passionate on my soapbox
We're still doing a bad job of it
Because yes
While the option exists
And that I challenge you
To go out and have
Easy to digest
Pull of vehicles to purchase
With the 3.0 in it
I looked
Hard and far
And I had
Option
I had to give up 90% of what I wanted
On that truck
Just to get the diesel
So I chose not to
And I got a gas because
They don't do a good job
Of supplying the market
For that option
I think they just don't take us serious
Well I'm gonna
I'm gonna not
I'm not gonna try not to get on my soapbox
Regarding
Federal regulatory
And incentive programs
For
Diesel versus
Gas combustion engines
Because if we incentivized diesel production
Like we do gas or hybrid
Electric previously
Then we would have better diesel technology
With that said
Go back to Scott's conversation
This particular diesel engine
Is the best we've ever seen
In a production jeep vehicle
The
EGTEGR
EGR
System leaves a lot
To be desired
But it is something that you're going to have
On any
New production diesel
Over a certain horsepower
Trading
And so I think that
We see that particular
Option set
And we also have start-stop technology
Which I think is valuable as we transition
Slightly this conversation into electrical load
In extreme temperatures if you will
But finish up
Kind of the comment about the
Eco diesels
We have seen a great
Utilization out of them
Pretty good reliability
We have yet to have them
Around long enough to
Get that good
Warm and fuzzy diesel
Feeling of 200-300,000 miles
I did hear that the earlier
Models which were
Pre-jeep installation
This is Ram specifically
Had a lot of teething
Problems and issues
And the second generation
Which is what then we started seeing
In our JLs and JTs
Is a much better
Sorted engine
These were in grand Cherokees as well
So the grand
As we always talk about
Testbeds a lot of stuff
The Hemmy Bob
The 1500 Ram as you mentioned
When there was
Conversation around the Hemmy
They did a big push into the
Eco diesel market
The teething problems are absolutely
Accurate
And again
This is going to be your first diesel
Should definitely learn
A little bit
I tried to buy a diesel grand
And my wife
Was not equipped or prepared
For the diesel-ness of
The diesel
And when we say that
Compared to some of the trucks
I grew up around
It was a very, very nice
Experience
She just didn't like the smell
Of the exhaust
Or of the fuel
Which there's a little really hard to
Have that
I love the smell of diesel in a cold morning
Oh my god
If they could make cologne out of that
I'd absolutely wear it
You may only attract yourself though
The best part is my wife tolerates these things
That I play with
Tolerates
She just really likes you
I know
She's weird
I don't want to kick the dead horse
Any more than that
But I do think it's valuable
And I had mentioned it loosely
With
My international
That has a lot to do with cylinder
Sleeve design
Additionally newer
Modern diesels
Requiring less
Of the preheat situation
Or none at all
Some of these tractors
Some of these small diesel engines
That's not to be spoken for for the older ones
Where that
Conversation
Transcends is then they need to have
Maximum
Voltage supply
From your electrical system
And
This is super valuable
In
Extreme cold temperatures
You may
Kind of
Make worse
A failing or dying battery
There's no question
It's going to be worse because
As we alluded to earlier
That electrical load
And robustness of that battery
Is going to be diminished
When the temperature drops
So if you have an ailing
Or old battery
It's going to show itself more
Which is why
Coldest day
Every year
If you go like a Sam's club
Or
Automotive place there's going to be people
Backed up buying batteries
Because we are a response
Society now
We don't plan, we respond
All the car barely started
Or it didn't start
So now I have to today
On the worst day
Which I've been there
I may or may not have been sitting
In a Sam's club parking lot
Putting a battery in my wife's car
Years ago
There was a line to have it installed
With some ridiculous saying
So I got them to allow me to do
The installation and still get the warranty
Because they were so pressed for time
I was like
I can do that
So I get it
But
Test your stuff
Look at it
Make sure that your batteries are up to snuff
Because you need them to be
We know factually that a weak battery
Overnight
In cold or subzero temperatures
Can lose 50% of its capacity
And that a
That's actually expected
Right, right
That's expected for a weak battery
For a new battery 10-20% loss
Over night in those temperatures
So kind of put that in perspective
If your battery has a
CCA of 800
Which is actually pretty high
That means you have 400 CCA now
To actually start the vehicle
And CCA is cold cranking
Amperage
Or amps
And that's the first time you hit the key
Every time you try
It's going down
Correct
And so ultimately you're hitting that key
And it's sending a signal to your starter
And the starter now
Is cold and unhappy
In its current position
Because it is not actually frozen
But it is sitting there
If you have other things plugged in as well
Overnight
The dash cams that people are using
All night 24 hours
That will also put a load on the battery
Normal conditions
That's probably not a big deal over time
But when it's cold
It's going to suck that battery power down
Even more
All of this
Is part of that starter conversation
The starter is unhappy
And now it's requiring
Even more voltage
Those electrical components are requiring
Even more voltage
Because there is a higher resistance
And we could get into
Actual electrical
Specifications
You just need to know there's higher resistance
Because of the cold
Your cables start to corrode
Over time
All of that adds more electrical load
To the starter
With an example first
The eco-diesels do have a bigger battery
With the JLs and the JTs
And you can install that larger battery
Into your regular JTs
And JLs
And JKs
With that said
The reason our JPs
Currently have two batteries
Is because now we have double
Whatever the ratings are
They combine
It's like Captain Planet all over again
Wow
Try not to break out in the song
I'll be honest with you
So anyway, when you've gone in
And that little battery has wronged you
And you don't like the start stop
And someone told you
That you removed the little battery
And your start stops in the stop working
Which is false
And now you've removed the little battery
And you still have your smallest top battery
And
You suddenly have the worst weather
You've seen in ten years
And your Jeep doesn't start
That's your fault
Because as part of
Our Jeep's work
There is now a degree
Of checks and balances
Electrically
That immediately happens
Again, we go back to that older model
The battery supplies voltage to
The starter
The starter might be unhappy
The engine might be slower to turn over than usual
But realistically
It's a mechanical action
Once I get that mechanical action running
The alternator take over
And fill that battery back up
In our modern engine
It's just had a epiphany
What happened is we got spoiled
From 91 to
06
And we just had a very simple
Kind of rudimentary, robust vehicle
And we've
Got in our heads that all vehicles are that way
Which is not the case
I think it's the people who hit their
Stride, right?
I think that's the hardest part
Is that people who were getting their driver's license
And learning about vehicles
In that time frame
Is where the
Challenge presents itself at the most
Because in 07 it starts to get a little more
Complex and by, you know, the currently
Are JKs, current JK
And JLJT production
When that initial electrical
Signal happens
Not only is it starting the engine
But it's waking up the computer
And it's having to go through a complete series
Of checks and balances with all these
Sensors, with all these modules
You need lots
Of electricity to do that
Where the early
4-liter HO series was pretty much
Like two guys on two hilltops
Going, hey, you okay over there?
And it was like, yep, okay, start
Go ahead, that's pretty
Shit
So I just want to jump back to the comment real quick
Because Red commented, well crap, that happened to mine
With a junk brand new battery
And there is something to be said about the quality
Of the battery as well as the age of the battery
Well, and that's why these
Kind of these talking points regarding cold cranking
Amperage and reserve capacity
And talking, you bringing up
Your conversation
Regarding the
Dose batteries
With the big battery and the small battery
The big battery is your primary start battery
Right? The big
Challenge we have, much like the eco-diesels
And the grand and the
1500s being less than desirable
The initial
Small auxiliary batteries
Were
You know, left something to be desired
They came parasitic and they ate off the big battery
Leaving you stranded in your
Relatively two, three year old vehicle
Not to mention modern day battery technology
Is not what it once was
Pre-COVID
Whatever happened
It broke the battery industry
It broke the battery industry
I don't know what was happening federally
At or before COVID
But COVID broke
The battery industry and I'm not sure
What regulatory processes happened
Again, 18, 19, 20
But batteries have never been
Good again, right? And I need you
I stand on my soapbox
Take that to the cleaners
Somebody prove me wrong
Tell me why that is
Tell me why batteries are good now
I don't know but they haven't been
With that said
We need all of that
Extra capacity
To run the checks and balances
To start the starter to do all that stuff
What happens when we don't have it
And that is obviously why we're going to address
This for one of our listeners
We're almost to the point now
With current vehicles where a battery tender
Is more important than a block heater
Stinkin' men
All of that
The battery being a tipty top shape
And maintained
Is pretty much your most
Important thing
Especially with all of the sensitivities
Of the newer system
And you think about my truck
It's a 21JT Rubicon
I
Because it's me
I started from my window
Immediately
The route of frosters on
No lies detected
The seat turns on
The steering wheel turns on
It goes on the full blast
On the blower motor
All of that
Is extra load
On that electrical system
Just started
So
Yeah
We're asking things of battery systems
That we've never had before
And as you mentioned
Our first and foremost recommendation
For anyone who has the capacity
To do this
Is a smart
On-board battery
Tender charger
We specifically
Utilize the
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The Noco 2.0
Genious series onboard tender
Noco, if you want to
Slide in the Jeffries DMs
We're open for it, right?
I can't begin to tell you
How many of our
Still have the pictures
How many of our customers
Joe Berlo's got some good pictures
I don't need to see
How many of our customers
We have installed this specific battery tender on
And as you mentioned, I'm just reiterating it
I far more believe the value
Of that particular unit than a block heater
For a vast majority of people
Yeah
And to mention though
Because I've been working with
Red and he's commenting
This becomes a challenge
Because Red lives in a space
Where he does not have access
To plugging in his vehicle
And so
There then presents a challenge
And I know that the angry turtle
Once lived
In a, you know, a space
Where he could not
Run an extension cord out to his
Vehicle, it just was
You know, not permissible
By the area that he lived in
And so that
Becomes incredibly challenging
We then have to kind of protect
Our best interests
With that
I am, I need you to know
I'm a moke
Oh my gosh, I need a moke
I need a moke a lot there
I am a NoCo fanboy
And the NoCo jump packs
Are
Amongst our preferred
You know, jump pack operation
Now that is
A
Lithium Ion
Based, small
Compact, big voltage
Jump pack
USB charged
Yeah, there's a bunch of
Value to those jump packs
I am very confused
By your standard
Suitcase, briefcase
Jump pack that's still sold
At the, you know, box stores
Today
New stuff is scary
Yeah, that's weird
And that one has a battery in it
So they feel better
It has like a lead acid
Like a lot more battery
Yeah, some type of
I don't know, I can't
Ask battery
The little battery in your vehicle is not okay
Yeah, that's weird to me
I don't understand that
It's lost on me
And so
It's valuable
And part of this conversation
And just for the listener
Who requested this
The conversation is
Utilizing
A jump pack, or jumper cables
Because we still jump
In an efficient way that does not
Fry the sensitivities of our system
And I feel like
You just made a trigger moment
Because I remember newer driver
Had jumper cables
Didn't know how to use them
Red is positive
Black is negative
Don't put red to black
Nope, things will go
Bad real fast
So can kill both vehicle batteries
And the jumper cables
And I've seen them on fire
The challenge, you know
Today I actually jumped a jeep
Dead as a doornail in our parking lot
Showed up last week at the end of the week
Probably Thursday or something
I don't know how it got here
But it's dead as a doornail
And I popped the hood to jump it
You didn't know jeeps just randomly
Pop up in our parking lot now
Like a teleportation thing
So challenging
There was no red
And there's no black
Now this is something
That the jeep owner
May or may not have done
Based on the fact that they've replaced
Some things
Then you look for the plus which is red
And the slash which is negative
Correct and that's the value
Arguably I've never seen a battery
That did not have the
Molded negative or positive
The battery might be dirty
You might have to excavate it under some grime
But if you are unsure
You need to explicitly
Verify
That
I think it's also important to note too
With the jump packs
It's more specific
To have the red to red and black to black
On older vehicles if you're using
Jumper cables
As long as the same one went to the same one
It was fine
So if you put black on positive on one vehicle
Black better be on positive on the other vehicle
And vice versa
That is fair
We don't recommend that folks
Sick with red and black it's easier
With the jump back conversation
And part of my reassurance
To those of you who maybe don't have
A jump pack as part of
Your onboard
Tool kit
Is that
The no-cos and a number of the
New
Smart jump packs
I'll be honest Harbor Freight even sells a no-co
Knockoff, Amazon sells them
Whatever
If you put them
Black to positive
And red to negative
It yells at you
It won't allow you
To fry your battery
Or to fry yourself
They don't want to test it though
I was going to say I would trust
Some of the more advanced ones
But some of the cheaper ones that you find on Amazon
They may not actually be that smart
They say they are
And that is a
Smart source
We are relying on a bit of
A computer chip control
Knowledge
That that little unit has
I just got to call out Rob
He's been behind the conversation this whole time
I think Rob's internet
Is lagging
Rob do you need coffee
It's all the wood he chopped up
On the mountaintop there
We're just playing in the background
And he's just kind of dwayning
And sporadically
He's too busy building this bumper
That's right
So as far as that
Smart
The smart jump pack technology
Now there is older
Jump pack technology
The briefcase ones that I was talking about
Or the big rolly cart ones
That you can absolutely flip a switch
And if you are hooked up
Incorrectly
Things are going to go south very fast
Yep
And so while
Best case scenario we encourage you
To
To be conscientious
To identify the red and the black cables
To find the positive and the negative cables
And I'll just give you my PSA
From my dad
You hook up the positive first
And you then hook up the negative and you do the reverse
I don't know why
The piece
I had a Chevy Impala
I just
This is the God's honest truth
That would not jump start
If I hooked up
The ground cable
Direct to battery
I needed to hook it up to a good ground
On the chassis
I had this car for almost
A decade
And it would not jump start
If I went battery to battery
It is a Chevy Impala for you
And so my piece with that
Is
Don't be afraid to
If you're not getting a good jump start
Either jump pack
Or vehicle to vehicle
To go ahead and wiggle
Those cables a little bit
The actual alligator clips
That are in your hands are on
That are part of the jump pack
To ensure that you have a good strong
Bite out of them
To the electrical components themselves
And something else just flashed in my head
I saw someone trying to jump start
Something that was on the video
And some sparks happened
And they were bound determined
They were going to get electrocuted
No can't
It's 12 volts
It's not going to electrocute you
The only thing is the coil
And there are new coil pack vehicles
That's really hard to get
Even zapped by
That has nothing to do with this conversation
So don't be concerned about that
As long as we're going
The worst thing is
If you do switch those jumper cables
And don't jump start it with 110
Oh god
I watched that
And I think it's like AI
Or somebody trolling
If you do sparky sparky
It's okay just remove the cables
Kind of expeditiously
The thing is they will
Weld themselves
Underhood welding is always fun
That is not recommended
So have some confidence
Have some reserve
And recognize that
It's okay we don't need to panic
And go wild and crazy
With the alligator clips in our hands
I will give the further
PSA on my fanboydom
I had
Went to move
A jeep
That's in my possession or a jeep of mine
And it has probably been sitting
Off and on for
I don't know two months or so
And in it is one of my
No-co jump packs
And it's just kind of sitting
Honestly my son and I took it
To when we went west
To Las Vegas probably the last time I know that
I used it
So early November that jump pack has been sitting here
I would have topped it off
It's important that you keep
It's in my opinion you keep your batteries maintained
And topped off
Again that's what the battery
Manufacturing technology
Desires to see
And expects
It expects a topped off battery so I come in
After I've used these things
I plug them back in and I top them off
This is not NICAD technology
If that reference is lost on you
I'm sorry we don't have time to expand on this
In this program
But I top it off I've left it in there
It's gone through all winter
I hit the power button
I was like I wonder what this is
Over the weekend
Fully charged
Last piece of this conversation
With the smart jump pack technology
The biggest complaint
I see with people
Is that
They'll put it on
And the battery is a stone
It has a bad cell
It's a problematic battery
And that the jump pack
Does not want to
Play nice with it
It's the best way to put it
They don't really want you to say hi
Just so you know
Oh hey buddy boy
That's my son
Saying hi on the program
He's watching in as well
My son knows how to jump start a vehicle
Fortunately
For multiple reasons
How many times has he had to jump start
For multiple reasons
Everybody in our family should be equipped
Let's finish this
No
So
That was
There is an override
There is a way to override the smart technology
Of those jump packs
And each jump pack is going to be different
And that is
People put it on and the jump pack stops blinking at them
And they're like well now what do I do
There is actually an override button
For the no-cos
You push it and you hold it
And it will force
Voltage into the system
But when you have that happen
Your battery is really not healthy
Your battery is not healthy
And this is when you can
If hooked up incorrectly
You can cause further damage
And so it's not no-cos fault that your battery is junk
That's the situation
So in these extreme and cold temperatures
I hope there was something there you found of value
I think we're going to have to actually do an episode
On battery technology
Because there's a lot of questions and comments
Especially with the ox battery
And workarounds if the ox battery is dead
Zach brought that up
Charging your battery
How long does it take to drive
These are all questions we're going to have to answer
In another episode
Yeah and I know that
One of our new
Watchers, listeners had jumped on
And asked about our preferred battery technology
I'd love to expand upon that
Because
Just factually
Not all batteries
Are created equal
And there is a price difference
For a reason
The battery that you buy
The bottom end, the value craft
Battery at AutoZone
Or the Walmart battery
Is affordable
For a reason
If it says value on the battery
Panic
And that's not to say that
You cannot find an economical battery
But
And like we said earlier
Just because it was good
I don't know 10 years ago
Doesn't mean it's good today either
Totes
I think we've got a podcast
Topic in the making
And we will
Look forward to expanding upon that further for folks
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Pressing questions
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About this episode
Cold weather can wreak havoc on your Jeep, and this episode dives deep into how to prepare your vehicle for extreme temperatures. The hosts discuss the importance of jump packs, block heaters, and the impact of cold on battery performance. They share personal anecdotes and practical advice on maintaining your Jeep during winter, including tips on fuel additives and the differences in diesel technology. With a mix of humor and expertise, the episode covers everything from historical practices to modern-day solutions for keeping your Jeep running smoothly in the cold.
The nation is under a deep freeze! What does this mean for your Jeeps? Tune in to find out tips and trick for maintaining your Jeeps in the extreme cold weather temps. Learn about Jump Packs and Electrical Sensitivity within your Jeeps.
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