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Keith Waterman Part 2

Keith Waterman Part 2

Porsche Patter Jul 16, 2026 21 min
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Pricing, driving feel, and racing history collide as the hosts talk through classic 911 values, including a 1967 911S offer that was “15 grand,” and the way today’s market can make ownership feel risky. They compare turbo 911 and 993 Turbo experiences, then zoom into period Porsche racing: an R-Race testing story, megaphone exhaust details, and how the “Mission Bell 250” became the Trans Am series they raced. The episode closes with practical driving and modification philosophy.

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Porsche 911

"In this one at one point, he talks about a 1967 911S and the lady got an offer for 15 grand. And he's like, man, she should have taken it."

This is a classic Porsche 911 from 1967, specifically the 911S version. The point here is that the car was offered for about $15,000, but the host believes it was worth much more—showing how collectible 911 prices have climbed a lot.

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bubble

"Then we're talking about a bubble. Oh my God. Yeah, it was about to explode because the things price were just way too out of control."

Here, “bubble” means the car market is getting overheated—prices are rising too fast because of hype and people expecting prices to keep going up. The host is saying it got even more intense later.

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Ford Mustang

"...w, when I first looked it up, it's like javelins, mustangs, chameros and I'm like, he drove a Porsche though..."

The Ford Mustang is a sporty car made by Ford. People talk about it a lot because it’s known for being fun to drive and for having strong engine options. It’s often mentioned alongside other famous performance cars.

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AMC Javelin

"...nd you know, when I first looked it up, it's like javelins, mustangs, chameros and I'm like, he drove a Pors..."

The AMC Javelin is a muscle car made in the 1970s. Muscle cars are designed to feel powerful and exciting, especially with bigger engines. The podcast mentions it because it’s one of the well-known classic cars from that style of era.

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Porsche 356

"Like, I mean, if it's a 911, it could be SC, you know, pre-impact, Carrera 964993, 356."

The Porsche 356 is one of Porsche’s earliest famous sports cars. It’s important because it helped define what Porsche would become—lightweight, fun, and very “Porsche.”

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pre-impact

"Like, I mean, if it's a 911, it could be SC, you know, pre-impact, Carrera 964993, 356."

“Pre-impact” is shorthand for an older 911 that predates later safety/bumper design rules. It’s basically an earlier front and rear bumper setup compared to newer versions.

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79 turbo

"I've got a 79 turbo that I've done a lot of work on and it's so expensive. I mean, it's valued"

They’re talking about a 1979 Porsche 911 Turbo. It’s a classic Porsche with a turbocharged engine—one of the big reasons these cars are so desirable today.

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boxer

"it takes some of the pleasure out of driving. You know, my boxer, you know, for 10 grand, so what,"

“Boxer” describes the engine shape where the cylinders move opposite each other. Porsche uses this style in many of its cars, and it helps the engine sit low in the car.

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85 Carrera

"last time I was here, I told you, like, I have 85 Carrera, a little miles, it's like, perfect. It was great when I first got it, like,"

They mean a 1985 Porsche 911 Carrera. It’s the naturally aspirated “regular” 911 (not the Turbo), and it’s a popular classic for driving and collecting.

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market could fall out

"There's a bubble up here. Yeah, you know, the market could fall out. I mean, it's, it's, it's like the housing market was here in 2005, 2006."

They mean the prices people pay for these cars might drop. If that happens, it can change what you’d get when you try to sell.

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73 RS

"pay me what she owes me and move along. Yeah. Last time I read the 73 RS, like it just kept going, keeps going."

They’re talking about a 1973 Porsche 911 RS. The RS is a special, more track-oriented version of the 911, and it’s highly collectible.

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push rod

"He's got a Porsche, a pushrod, four cylinder in it and Denny Baker, Denny Aker, Aker, like A-K-E-R. [518.4s] Uh-huh. And he has a shop downtown Seattle."

“Pushrod” describes a type of engine design where parts inside the engine use rods to open the valves. It’s a mechanical way of getting the camshaft’s motion to the valves.

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Porsche transmissions

"This thing I think weighs 900 pounds. Okay. And you know, a lot of aluminum. It has the, [561.5s] the Porsche transmission and engine."

This means the car’s gearbox is from Porsche. Since the speaker is talking about a modified race car, the point is that the swap affects how the car drives and how well the parts integrate.

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Topic

modify their car

"So what advice would you give to someone who wants to modify their car? [605.5s] First question I would ask why. Okay. Porsche did a very good job building the car."

They talk about how to think before changing your car. The speaker’s main message is: figure out your real reason for modifying, and don’t assume aftermarket parts will work as perfectly as the original ones.

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driving school

"And if you want performance driving, I'm going to send you [657.6s] to driving school before I touch your car."

They recommend taking a driving school course before doing performance mods. The idea is that better skills can make the car safer and more fun than just adding parts.

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Willow Springs racetrack

"I drove it from Harbor City out to Willow Springs racetrack with a dealer plate hanging on the back of it."

Willow Springs Raceway is a famous race track in California. The host is describing taking their race-prepped Porsche there to test it.

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megaphone

"What do you mean megaphone is that exhaust? They were tapered exhaust right out. They came off the... I had the 911 R hitters and then I just had a megaphone that I think they were 18 inches, I think."

A “megaphone” is a race exhaust shape that sticks out and is louder than a normal muffler. Racers use it to help the engine breathe and make more power.

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911 R hitters

"I had the 911 R hitters and then I just had a megaphone that I think they were 18 inches, I think."

“911 R hitters” sounds like a specific race exhaust/header setup for the Porsche 911 R. The host is saying it bolts on in place of a normal muffler and works with the megaphone exhaust.

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small valve

"So your race car was what? I think it was a... It was a 68 911 L small valve, dyno dead at the warehouse here in Culver City."

“Small valve” means the engine’s valves are smaller than a larger-valve setup. Smaller valves can limit airflow, so racers often change valve sizes to get more power.

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dyno

"So your race car was what? I think it was a... It was a 68 911 L small valve, dyno dead at the warehouse here in Culver City."

A “dyno” is a test machine that measures how much power an engine makes. It lets you compare setups in a controlled way.

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rear wheels

"I think there was a 178 horsepower we had on the rear wheels."

“Rear wheels” refers to measuring power at the wheels that actually drive the car. That number can be lower than engine power because some power is lost through the drivetrain.

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Richie Ginther

"Richie Ginther was there. He did the seat reduction cars and he wanted to know how I got more power out of that than he did on the Fs, that big valves."

Richie Ginther was a well-known race driver connected with Porsche in the 1960s. Here, the host says he was involved with race-car development and wanted to understand how they found more power.

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seat reduction cars

"Richie Ginther was there. He did the seat reduction cars and he wanted to know how I got more power out of that than he did on the Fs, that big valves."

“Seat reduction cars” likely refers to a specific Porsche racing preparation involving reducing valve “seats” (the valve seat area in the cylinder head) or related head work. The speaker contrasts it with “big valves,” implying a head/valvetrain tuning approach.

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Riverside

"We'd meet Peter Briggs at Riverside with it. He brought it down."

Riverside was a well-known race track in California. The host is saying they met up there with the car for racing activities.

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Trans Am series

"What race was this? This was the Mission Bell 250. It became the Trans Am series that we raced."

Trans Am was a big American racing series for sports cars. The host is saying the race they were doing helped connect into what became the Trans Am series.

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SCCA

"And we were in SCCA but when the Trans Am came out here we ran Sears Point and Laguna Sega."

SCCA is the Sports Car Club of America, a big U.S. organization that runs road racing events. The host is saying their racing scene was tied to SCCA before Trans Am expanded locally.

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Sears Point

"when the Trans Am came out here we ran Sears Point and Laguna Sega."

Sears Point is the old name for Sonoma Raceway. The host is saying they raced there during the Trans Am period.

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Laguna Sega

"when the Trans Am came out here we ran Sears Point and Laguna Sega."

“Laguna Sega” is likely Laguna Seca, a famous race track in California. The host is listing it as one of the tracks they raced on.

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injection pump

"[868.6s] said I got an injection pump there. We put that on and he said I think you could do it a little bit better."

An injection pump is a fuel-delivery device. It helps send the right amount of fuel to the engine at the right time so the car runs smoothly and makes power.

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hairpin turn

"[947.6s] I was shocked. I mean I'm coming down the hill into a hairpin turn that's about 110 [954.3s] and I shifted down twice, tapped the brakes. I don't know. Gone."

A hairpin turn is a very tight corner where you basically have to turn back on yourself. It’s a good test of brakes and how well the car stays under control when you’re slowing down hard.

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Volkswagen Bora

"...y went down one time they came in with a Maserati Bora. That was one of the sweetest sounding cars I've ..."

The Volkswagen Bora is a regular passenger car model made by Volkswagen. It’s not mainly known as a race car, but it can still be interesting to listen to and drive. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because someone thought it sounded especially good.

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Maserati Bora

"[1023.2s] They like buying exotic cars. They went down one time they came in with a Maserati Bora. That was one of the sweetest sounding cars I've ever heard."

The Maserati Bora is an Italian sports/grand touring car with the engine in the middle. The host is saying it sounds especially good—like a standout exhaust note.

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Porsche Carrera GT

"...don't get off on. I would love to drive that that Carrera GT but I've got to have it for half a day. I can't h..."

The Porsche Carrera GT is a very rare, very fast sports car made by Porsche. It’s the kind of car people want to drive at least once because it’s special and hard to get. The podcast is using it as an example of a dream car.

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twin turbo

"First time I got into a Cayenne twin turbo I jumped on a thing out here [1122.6s] it's like whoa man I got to do that half a dozen times and then I can you know get my foot in it"

“Twin turbo” means the engine has two turbochargers. They help the car make power faster, so acceleration can feel really sudden.

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Porsche Cayenne

"First time I got into a Cayenne twin turbo I jumped on a thing out here [1122.6s] it's like whoa man I got to do that half a dozen times and then I can you know get my foot in it"

They’re talking about a Porsche Cayenne with twin turbochargers. It accelerates really hard, and they had to get used to that punch before they could drive it confidently.

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Ferrari 355 Spider

"We have a Ferrari that comes in. What do you call that thing it's a 355 Spider? [1161.4s] That is one of the sweetest sounding vehicles I've ever driven but do I get excited about driving it?"

They’re talking about a Ferrari 355 Spider, which is a mid-engine supercar with the top down. They love how it sounds, but they don’t like driving it because they can’t see as well as they want.

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brakes

"that is a fun road. I mean you're not going to get over 70 mile an hour on it and then you [1203.6s] better better be praying that your brakes are real good."

Brakes are what slow the car down and help you stop safely. The speaker is saying this road is fast enough that you really need strong, dependable braking.

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