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This is Under the Hood. Welcome to the Under the Hood Show.
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We are glad to have you with us. Russ Evans is here to answer your automotive questions.
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Thanks for joining us under the hood. Shannon Nordstrom is here to do the same.
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Welcome, hoodies. Thanks for tuning in so we can help you tune up.
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I'm Chris Carter here to answer your calls at 866-594-4150. Got calls coming in.
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Should we go right to them or do you got anything pertinent? I saw that the
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Big Ford Recall got expanded to include Edge Explorer.
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I'm just starting to wonder if when they mandated federal that you have rear safety cameras,
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it was just a ploy to make the manufacturers give them more money.
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It might have been. Gosh, it seems like there's been a lot of recalls on those.
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What, when did that go? 23? No, it's been long before that.
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Was it? Oh yeah, thanks so.
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It's nuts. It's just all of them. It's just all nuts.
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And now the latest thing with, you know, the emissions, people heard like a rollback over.
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No, I get questions. How many times do you have? I had two this week.
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Yeah, this week. This week from people that were like really serious.
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And to the point, our outside salesman, Tim, had said,
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yeah, he was, I had a shop told me they rolled back emissions.
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He even saw a new 2026 Silverado on a truck.
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And it was up on the top and they looked and it didn't have any def on it or anything.
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I said it was probably a military vehicle.
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You know, it's a police vehicle because if they were going to have made a change like that,
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it wouldn't have come this fast.
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They would have had to have gotten into the pipeline.
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Engineering would have to redesign the vehicles.
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There is quite a bit that would have to happen before those vehicles would hit the road
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with different emissions on them.
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You know what's going to happen when they, when we see it on the lot for sale
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and there's a sticker on it that has certain emissions of it.
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It won't be all of them. It'll be some of them.
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You're not even going to not get in trouble for it yet.
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I think they did enforcement on somebody as recent as a month ago, I think.
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Yeah, you're still getting it.
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So if you have a 25 or a 26 that's full emissions and you think you're going to
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delete that in 27, if the trucks had less emissions, you're still getting hung on it
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because it happened.
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You go to jail for smoking pot and then your state the next year says,
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Oh, now it's legal.
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We voted in Minnesota.
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There's still people in jail in Minnesota that were busted for it a year ago or two when it was not.
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I've said this on the air before.
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I can't believe I can say smoking pot or the word marijuana even on the radio.
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Yeah, I can't even, I just, I'm uncomfortable.
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You probably couldn't have done that 15 years ago.
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Let's go to Nebraska and talk to Mike.
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You're on the end of the hood show.
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Mike, what can we do for you?
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I am a quieter 1987 big Conovan with a 460 in it and I would like to put the Edelbrock intake on it.
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And the question I have is when I put the gaskets on, what do I do with that exhaust crossover?
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All right, I'm hanging in here.
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You know, I'm thinking about this too.
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Because shouldn't that be a fuel injected 460 in the van?
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No, 87, no, 87, 87.
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It's probably still 87 doesn't have a variable venturi carburetor on it.
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Well, the carburetor will be replaced it will be with an Edelbrock intake and carburetor.
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Is it a, is it a very, oh, you're putting it, you're not putting the fuel injection on it?
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No, no, he's just putting a carburetor.
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I was trying to, I got confused on the year for a second because that is a carbureted van.
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I just say you put the sniper fuel injection on it, you'd actually increase your mileage instead of
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getting the same because if that's got a VV, you know, variable venturi carb on it,
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and you switch to a Edelbrock, you're probably going to drop some, well, if that thing isn't.
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Let's just go down his road.
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Apparently he wants to, all right, he wants to do this.
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Let's see, what do we got?
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Well, you can block it off, but you might have some carbicing.
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They make a block off kit that comes the crossover.
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It comes with the gaskets, there's little metal plates, you can put them on.
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We used to put them on our old Pontiacs and stuff, you know, the 400, you block them off and
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then sometimes the carburetor, sometimes it wouldn't, it depended on the climate.
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If you're in a really cold climate and you're going to plan on driving in the winter,
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you better leave the carb heat, at least some of it.
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Sometimes we drill a quarter inch hole in each, each one of those
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going across to warm them up, but it with no carb heat on that
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in a, in a northern winter, you might have a problem with icing.
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You get that Venturi effect, cold air goes through, it will freeze up and then it won't idle
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So you would suggest a drill a hole in it?
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Well, if you've got the, if you've got the two gaskets that came with it
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and it's got a block up plate, here's what I would do.
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Edelbrock has a amazing tech line.
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Call them, tell them what climate you live in and ask them what their suggestion is,
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because they know how much heat that carburetor needs.
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They might have a thing.
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But not to get too technical.
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I can tell you, I was working on, on Shannon's land rover yesterday.
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He's got an old land rover and.
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Drove it home last night at 1030 with a smile on my face.
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When you start that up cold on high idle, the carburetor will frost over the bottom of it.
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But they conveniently located the manifold, the exhaust manifold, right onto the intake manifold
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to make it nice and hot and make it run worse when it's warm.
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But also so that things can catch on fire easily if the carburetor holds up.
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Thanks for the encouragement.
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But it's there for the heat.
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They put it underneath for the heat.
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There's no way around it.
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It's already got a big insulator spacer in it.
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Without that, it wouldn't run when it's warm.
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But again, it also makes ice when it's cold.
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It will ice up enough that it will hold the throttle open partially until that manifold
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heats up and closes it.
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That's part of their fast idle system, I think.
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So, Mike, that you called for one thing and you got just more piled on you.
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And we questioned his decision.
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He mentioned the Sniper thing.
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Does that take a different intake manifold then?
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It's going to, well, they're going to provide with that system.
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You'll get an intake, carb, everything.
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You can get carbs just to fit that.
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But it's a, the Sniper electronic injection has an external fuel pump that goes on the
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rail down underneath, right where the factory would have put it in the end of 87 early 88.
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And then you bolt it to the top.
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You hook a few sensors up and that thing runs an O2 sensor.
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So it's really going to look at the fuel mixture and only give it the fuel it needs to operate.
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It will make a difference in fuel mileage compared to a carburetor.
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But it may only be a couple of miles per gallon.
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And depending on how much you drive that, it's a van.
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You know, if you don't drive it a lot to make up what you pay for the fuel injection,
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it might not be worth it.
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It's only, it's really worth it if you can say, I got fuel injection in here and I
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And it's going to run smooth, you know, year round or smoother.
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Mike, thanks very much for the call.
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That's the number to reach us here at the end of the hood show.
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Now let's go to Texas and talk to Scotty.
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You're on the end of the hood show.
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Scotty, what can we do for you?
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Yeah, how y'all doing today?
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What can we do for you?
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Okay, I got a 2006 Jeep Liberty.
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I've had it for a couple years and off and on it seems there seems to be some electronic glitches
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and I'm wondering if that's a common thread with the 37 Jeep Liberty or if there's a remedy to
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fix it because it's multiple glitches like the recently I've experienced the fuel gauge
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light comes on and the gauge just needle drops all the way to the bottom.
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And then 20 minutes later it'll pop back up and it'll go off.
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Same thing with the check engine light.
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It's not shooting any codes, but the check engine might have come on and then an hour or so later
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The ESP light does the same thing.
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Is there something that all of that would be connected to a sensor or something
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electronic that I'm overlooking?
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Do you notice any changes in the way the vehicle operates when these
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lights are going on and off?
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That's not necessary.
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That's a good sign as far as driving it, but that's not necessarily a good sign as far as
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diagnosing it, correct?
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Russ is trying to write me something and I can't understand it.
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Make this whole thing maybe.
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I would fail at charades.
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Everybody knows that.
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And Chris, you know that.
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Could it be the actual, yeah, the entire cluster under the dash like that?
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Definitely could be 100% the cluster.
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And it could all just be false signals.
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And the only way a person's really going to know is...
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Never got that one either.
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The only person's ever going to know is if you have a scanner or a tool hooked to it at
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the same time and watch what's actually happening and see if you're getting the
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same indications on the scanner as you do on the cluster.
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A real-time reader, right?
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So you can see what's really happening.
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You want me to tell you what's wrong with it now?
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Well, I was waiting for you, Russ.
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I was just trying to jump in.
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He's like, he's watching me drown here.
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This is like beating a dead horse.
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I think you're sending units bad in the tank.
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So what's happening is when you lose the signal from the tank back there,
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not only does your gauge go down, but the engine computer can't read it either.
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So it turns the check engine light on.
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Check engine light comes on and gets a bad signal to the ABS.
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It says invalid data and it gives you that ESE light.
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So I think you're sending units failing.
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It's, well, that's somewhere we would look if you're analyzing it.
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If you grabbed yourself a cheap $20 multimeter and hooked it to that tank,
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one to ground, one to the tank sending unit on ohms,
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and you could hook it up back there or hook it up at the computer, whichever went,
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And when that gauge goes wacky, the gauge on your meter is going to go all over the place
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if the sending unit's bad.
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But that's likely what's going on.
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We've done a few of them.
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Can you hold up your sign again, the first one you drew?
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Because now I'm starting to maybe get it.
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Empty on fuel or yeah.
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That's the fuel gauge you drew there.
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We should play charades with our YouTube viewers during the show.
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And then we could show them things and then make a comment in the comments and say,
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Is that a billion dollar idea?
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Scotty, thanks very much for the call.
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Let's talk to Dale.
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You're on the end of the Hood Show, Dale.
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What can we do for you?
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Yeah, like I told the caller guy, this is kind of an unusual call.
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It's a 1942 international harvester model H tractor.
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It's six-hole, you know, because it's so old.
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And it's also a positive ground.
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Now, I have been having all kinds of trouble trying to make, it's got a generator,
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you know, trying to make this generator actually charge.
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So I finally decided I'm going to go to an alternator that I bought from a tractor
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parts store over in Michigan.
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So you just have to run that wire to your battery.
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But do I change from positive ground to, well, you got to go to a 12-volt, too.
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You know, it's a 12-volt system, not six.
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But do I change from the positive ground?
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Yeah, you got to swap it because the alternator can't be swapped inside
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the way the diodes are running it.
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They run one direction and the current flow is to the ground, positive to negative.
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It's, you'll burn it up if you try to hook it up.
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Everything else can be switched.
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If you got a positive ground, your lights aren't going to, they don't care.
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They go either way.
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They're like a stove coil one way or the other way they heat up.
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They're going to light.
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Your gauges are going to have to be reversed because they go up and down based on resistance.
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So you're going to have to swap those around.
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They actually make little boxes.
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You can put on these things to swap polarities and voltages.
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The only gauge it's an amp meter.
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Yep. Now the amp meter works in series.
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It should work because it's just measuring the flow of current and it's going one direction.
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You know, it goes through it.
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Either direction it's going to show charge or discharge.
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In the worst case, when you hook that thing up, if you swap positive negative ground,
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if that gauge is going backwards, you've got to swap the in and out on them.
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There's two wires coming in and it just flows through.
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It's measuring a river current.
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So you will need to change your coil though because your coil is got the way it's set up.
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You've got positive coming in, which is negative coming in.
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Is it a coil or does it have a magneto system?
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It's got a coil, unless it's got both, but it'll have a coil to fire it.
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So yeah, you'll want to put a 12 volt coil on it, which is a negative ground coil.
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But it's still, again, it's a coil.
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It goes one direction unless there's a diode built in, it'll all flow either way.
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But you need a 12 volt coil on there when you put the 12 volt.
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Now you're going to have to switch your either switch all your lighting
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to put 12 volt bulbs in it, which will work.
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Or you probably have three bulbs on it.
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You know, the two headlights, maybe one in the back and then one in the instrument panel
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in that amp gauge, which I doubt you probably even have that.
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But you want to switch those over to 12 volt.
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Is there anything in the distributor then that would be different or the points?
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The points and the points and condenser, they're all going to, they're still,
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they're going to be the same.
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That's just a store.
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The condenser is just a storage device for the reserve energy when you
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break those points.
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And then the the points don't care.
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They're just a switch on off.
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You're lucky that you have so little items on this old vehicle.
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It's not like a car from the past.
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There's very few wires, but it still can be a bugger to try and figure stuff out on it too.
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Thank you guys a lot for the help.
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I told you, I said, you know, I was just watching.
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I would have to say, Russ, that was a very good description of the amp meter amp meter.
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When you said it, it was just a river of current.
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I just, I was sitting there looking at him.
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I was like, that was good.
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That was a good one.
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I completely understood what he was talking about.
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You're on the end of the hood show.
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Don, what can we do for you?
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I got a 2017 Dodge Durango.
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It's a RT with the Pemi all-wheel drive, about 90,000 miles on it.
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We've had it since probably 15,000 miles.
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And it makes a noise only when you turn left that I've had it in several shops.
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It feels like it's in the middle of the car, like underneath your seat.
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I've had people ride in the front, back, way back.
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It doesn't really do it going straight.
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Mostly you got to make that left turn with a little bit of throttle.
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So I had taken it to the local Dodge dealer and right away the kid said he knew what it was.
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But he thought it was front wheel drive and whatever that was, obviously wasn't it.
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So they said they took it in the shop, took some of the fluid out of the transfer case,
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brought it to me in a cup.
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And it had one small chunk and a little silverish looking in the oil.
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So they said transfer case.
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And let me get you a quote, which was like four grand.
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And I said, well, I got to think about it or whatever.
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Throw it home, took it to my buddy shop that I trust.
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He's one of the ones that's been helping me try to figure it out.
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Or anyways, we went ahead and got a transfer case from a reputable recycling yard,
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which is near Brandon where I live.
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I won't mention their name, but anyways, went through all the trouble to put that in
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and it still makes the same noise.
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And we've done, I mean, differentials have been checked and I don't know what else to do.
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Is the noise, I mean, it's, is it audible from the outside?
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If somebody hears you turning or is it something you're just picking up resonating?
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Oh yeah, if you got somebody, somebody standing there can kind of hear it.
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Yes, we've done that.
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When they put this case in there, it really sounds, go ahead.
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They did check the tires, right?
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They have the same tread depth and they're the same size, front and rear,
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same tread depth, not just same tires.
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Right, because the tires are fairly new.
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Okay, because if that tread depth is off and they put another transfer case in it,
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it's trying to destroy the transfer case you put in it, just like the original,
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because I've had that happen before.
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Something to look at for sure.
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Yeah, looking to make sure that tread depth is the same,
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because of the same number on the side, the numbers the same,
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but you have 430 seconds on the front and 930 seconds on the back.
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They can look pretty good if they're like an AT tire with a lot of grooves.
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You could just, oh yeah, they look pretty good.
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Oh well, they're way off.
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Because if you take these two tires and you set them...
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It's kind of like a tighten itself.
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Yes, it will, because if you take two tires and one is 430 seconds smaller than the other
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in tread depth and you make a white chalk line on both those tires
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and you roll them 10 feet, when you go 10 feet,
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those chalk lines don't light up anymore.
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They're a foot apart.
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That's an eighth of an inch, by the way.
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Yeah, thanks Chris.
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And it's like a cup.
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There you go, a cord.
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But that amount, imagine that.
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You roll these tires 10 feet and they're a foot apart.
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That's like taking that drive shaft and twisting it.
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And if you twist and that's a lot smaller, so twist even further.
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Now you're twisting the clutches inside of that transfer case
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and you're going to rip it apart.
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So you want to make sure that those tires match
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and that's why we rotate tires on those a lot.
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Yeah, and I'm pretty adamant on that on oil changes.
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Well, check that out.
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Does that have a chain in it, the transfer case like the four-wheel drive?
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That's what drives the front.
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The chain drives the front
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and then it's got clutches in it.
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So that's something to check for you right away down in there.
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You can get a tire depth gauge at any auto parts store for about two dollars.
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But yeah, you said you've already checked out all the drive shafts
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and then you might want to just also pay attention
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to what's going on in the rear differential
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to make sure that that's got a limited slip system in it
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because they're educational right exactly 866-594-4150 let's go to Connecticut and talk to Joyce
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you're on the Under the Hood show Joyce what can we do for you? Well I was on the highway and
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um there was an accident
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there was a truck had uh
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I don't know it went down an embankment oh no and there was a big tie-up
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and uh the cars were going just stop and go stop and go stop and go so I
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I was close to the car in front of me when my engine just stopped and uh
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I tried to pull over to the side couldn't get all the way because I was too close to the car
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because the car lost power
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and my car was like halfway on the lane and halfway off so it was really dangerous I got out of the
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car and uh got to the side of the road and someone um stopped to help me um
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but it happened again
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when I was just backing out of my driveway
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so after you got off to the side of the road you were able to start it and then drive home?
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No uh I wasn't able to start it um
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someone stopped and he tried to start it and he couldn't start it
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and it was really dangerous the person who
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was uh you know tried to help me was
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very brave because the traffic had picked up and the truck was zooming by and
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so when the truck when the car didn't when the car didn't start and the person was trying to help you
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they went ahead and um did they try jump starting it or were they just trying to finesse the
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the throttle a little bit or what was their attempt to start I gotta just help us understand the problem
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uh well they got in the car and tried to get it off the road okay and they they couldn't do it
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they didn't try to jump start it I mean was was the battery dead or was the engine just not
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going to start for you the engine just didn't start it stopped it it completely stopped on
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the highway yeah okay such a terrible situation when that happens because especially when it's
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intermittent so when did it start again well um the police came and um they
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they did start were able to talk start the car but after much
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attempt okay so we have to figure out here Russ what when in traffic car just stops
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that's we've got to find out some more stuff first well the fact that it restarted again eventually
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how much time had passed by the time police got there had been probably 15 minutes a half hour
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before the car started one hour how long how long do you think it was probably it was
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probably at least a half an hour okay has it run ever since just fine except for
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the she said it pulled out of her driveway and backing up and it died again just recently
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and that was a few that was a yeah and that was a few minutes after this first incident okay a few
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minutes after but have you driven it since then no a few months after a few months that made more
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sense because yeah she would have to port it into her garage like it sounds like it's it sounds
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like a heat thing she was sitting in there in a driveway you know in the traffic it got
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hot it so it could have a crankshaft sensor issue we put a number of those on these cars
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but I think the way to find this is you need to get it into a shop you need to explain to them
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just like you did us give them all the details and tell them you know it's hot and it shut down
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and then they can use that information and hopefully run the car on a warm day idle until
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it dies and if it does have a crankshaft sensor issue that will show up yeah it'll heat up
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it'll open that up it'll shut off it'll die they'll be able to say oh this is what it is we got no
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crank signal and replace and get it going I think it has something to do with the heat
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that's that's causing that sensor to fail and Joyce the hard part about this is if you
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just start replacing parts you may not replace the right one right and so you we've you really
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really need to be able to duplicate this and that's why you've got some good scenarios where
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it happened I get the heat in traffic coming out of your garage I don't quite understand that
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you know but it could very easily be something that once they can get it to die then they'll be
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able to tell instantly if they know what they're doing what what it doesn't have did it lose fuel
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did it lose spark is there no computer signal where it's not able to control the injectors
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that's the stuff that they they've got to have that car not working or else they'll be guessing
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right because if it runs great otherwise they'll just be guessing now they'll guess the most
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likely culprit and they may ask for your permission and say hey let we want to try this this is a
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likely culprit a crank shaft positioning sensor or something like that but that can't be a guarantee
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that when you get out on the road again that the same thing might not happen until you
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can prove it a little bit so it'd be better if you could get to a shop and duplicate the problem
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if at all possible Joyce thanks very much for the call good luck that is something
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uh that younger listeners might not 50 years ago 40 years ago that's a common you're in
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traffic it's hot you're worried about your car now no nobody worries about their car in traffic
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I mean you don't sit there it's go it's going overheat gotta shut it off yeah you just sit
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there now turn the air on turn the radio on exactly but the bigger the bigger thing that I
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got out of this whole thing I was concerned when she said it died in traffic yeah and she
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wasn't off the road she didn't say if it was day or night really but it wasn't off the road and then
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she got out of the car you can when you if you get out of the car if everybody else was stopped
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you gotta be sure of where you're going to and I think everybody was stopped because there was
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that accident ahead of her it's not like a bad accident too I mean somebody off a ravine
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and there was fire and didn't she say that I mean you don't want to get out of the car
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though and go with the shoulder and stand equal to or in front of it you want to be behind
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it so if somebody hits that car it's going to keep going like a train like a train you want to go
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towards the train you know back backwards not this just came up to I watch I was watching a video
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about a chain reaction accident don't get out of your car if cars are hitting yeah don't get out
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and try to get away to make sure he had buckled in brace yourself yeah eight six six five nine
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four four one five oh let's go to Nebraska and talk to Thomas you're on the end of the hood show
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Thomas what can we do for you hi I have a 2008 Dodge Grand Caravan and I have several issues at
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the moment I'll one my wife can drive it in and out of town and within probably by the time she
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gets back the battery light comes on and she'll pull it off to the side of the road she'll turn it
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off turn it back on the light will go off keeps happening once in a blue moon and then the other
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thing is is she is also having cruise control sometimes it'll work sometimes it's not I've
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been checking fuses I've been checking relays what else am I missing that it could be missing
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either the battery light or the cruise control maybe they're correlated I'm trying to figure it
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this out here's all I know here I'll give you the first part of this Thomas the cruise control
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shutting off randomly could be a lot of things it could be tail light could be the brake pedal
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could be the ignition system could be I'm trying to follow Russ so far so good right keep going
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now you now you take yeah or that alternator may not be putting out enough voltage so the battery is
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a little low and it shuts it off that's one of the first things to go I will add to that the battery
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the battery is new the battery has been like put in less than a month but the alternator is not
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what's causing that battery light to go on is not if that alternator is low
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and it's not charging enough and it's turning that light on the first thing to go is the cruise
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air conditioning convenience things the radio just doesn't seem to shut off it should
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should be one of the first things but they have no way to kill that but yeah it'll kill the convenience
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items that are controlled by the computer or the body module so likely you've got a low voltage
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issue put a number of alternators on those things okay that'd be the first thing to look at
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the alternator now is that something I can bring in yeah what's the testing you would do Russ
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yeah test it simple bring it into an alternator test and they load everything up turn all the
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lights on the rear to fog or all that stuff and see get this that's going to be holding
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under a load is it doing what it's supposed to do and there may even be some codes in either the
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body control module and people miss that they'll look at the engine and they'll see no codes but
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then you look at the body control module and it says low voltage low voltage low voltage
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engine didn't pick it up but the body control module did and Thomas thanks very much for the
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call that's the place to start good luck 866-594-4150 for those watching on the youtube feed that's
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my daughter the other person in the studio that's my daughter she was bring your daughter to work
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day uh-huh we do it once every 25 years and today's her day you used to come to work with me
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often when we used to do like holiday stuff yeah at least once a year it's been a while
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yeah then you come to the shop and she was like two yeah you haven't even
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matter of fact you're here for the first time in years when we were talking earlier i think
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you said five like five or more yeah years so she's never been in this studio she has actually
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that's what she before before you guys were able to use it that's right yeah there we go all right
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now be quiet we're working over here we're busy 866 my my test it works 594-4150 let's go to
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oklahoma dress not know that i just noticed i built it but it doesn't mean i know what i did
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let's talk to charles in oklahoma you're on the under the hood show charles what can we do for you
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yes i have a 2013 mustang with uh 700 miles on it um i used to turn over and now it does not
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even turn over i have changed the batteries not recently but when you turn the key on it goes to
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like a half a tank of gas and i know the gas tank is full it just doesn't crank i changed the relay
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out several times still nothing had a guy come out and read codes he couldn't find any codes
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to speak of uh so i'm kind of at a loss whether i just take it in or do i keep trying to search for
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the answers well i think that um the sad part is is that it may not be fixable and you may have
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to give it to russ or or chris or chris yeah i mean it sounds like it's a very you know not a
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great car yeah so just have to give it to someone well i mean it's 2013 last time and i only had
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700 miles yeah yeah you didn't sense my son has a meter at all there i'm sorry i apologize
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that is a berkeley one classic for sure did he just say 700 700 miles i caught that right away
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what is the 700 miles so uh i got that's why it's not work we gotta know more about the car
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is this a v8 mustang or what is this thing yeah it's a v8 uh it's the cody motor um it's a 5-0
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um it i could say that i don't don't know uh it could be you know it could be the fuel pump
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it could be a number of things but let's let's you know they're not reading anything okay let's
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go back though when you you said when you and you got a new battery and i'm assuming correct
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uh the battery is probably about two years old and it's been sitting in storage most of the time
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we're in the car yes yes any sort of a battery maintainer on it all
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yes i had a battery uh tricker on it yeah even with a maintainer you they can die sometimes but
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i'd be scared i would want to be testing to make sure i've got a good clean battery voltage
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if i had a car that sat that long that much and it needed a maintainer on it i'd definitely
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be looking into one of those new lithium optima batteries that jump starts itself because if it
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sits in it goes dead after too long you just use the connection on your phone and turn it back on
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that is the i i'm still so russ i've not seen that yet i was here we oh you weren't here you weren't
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here oh but i'm i want to hear about this optima makes a battery that jump starts itself when it
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gets down to 30 it shuts itself off and then you use the bluetooth connection on your phone to
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turn it back on oh you tap into that so for kids mm-hmm they've got a reserve not a kid anymore but
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still for younger people yeah that are in college and the car goes dead all the time oh it went
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dead what do i do i got a jump started dad no just grab out your phone let me do get my i want
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to make sure if they're gonna if a college kid's calling for a jump that they pull out the right
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app right along with you they'll find it in the other thousand they've got on there like me
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so all right back to the car first thing make sure the battery's got full voltage if it's not
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cranking second thing turn the key on just turn it on to the run position without starting it and
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watch the dash if you've got a little flashing theft light or a solid illuminated theft light
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you got a security issue and it's not allowing the car to start you could have had a problem
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with the key the transponder especially if it's been sitting this long but another thing that's
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very common on those cars is the starter they get a little they get a little something going on
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inside and they don't make contact when you turn them on and i want to jump in here and just be clear
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that a 2013 with 700 miles is it's got issues that are not normal to a car that's used regularly
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it's we're in a different we're in a different situation here than a normal 2013 usually
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they're kind of okay but the things do happen yeah that's pretty low miles and it's it's common for
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batteries to go dead and starters to not make contact and that can be checked because if you
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got somebody that's a bill got got a meter just a simple meter then go down to the starter and see
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am i getting voltage if i'm getting voltage to the starter and it's not and the exciter
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wires got voltage and it's not kicking in starter's got a problem um now this Berkeley
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classics Berkeley won classics they are going to want to ensure this car for you but we are going to
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want we're going to want to guess what color it is first let me ask a question yeah this is a Berkeley
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classic because of the way he uses it not because no it's a Mustang gtv8 um that fold that's
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definitely one of their cars they'll ensure unless you're driving it every single day okay and
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he's obviously not driving it every single day that is true so i think that this car is steel gray
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chris i was gonna say gray i'll say uh i'll go out i'll go out there a ways i'll go uh
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that bright blue all right it is black sophie red okay all right let's see charles what color is it
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it is far range in red oh our guest guesser sophies wins the prize stay on the line and
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producer dug over there we'll get you hooked up with a hoodie before he goes away just real
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quick one classics give me 30 seconds why does the car of solo miles did you buy it new did you get
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it from a family member what what's the scoop no i bought it new uh and my intent was to uh i didn't
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need the the Mustang at the time and so i put it in my garage and did everything and prep for to
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keep it about a year there and i was going to drive it and uh it started for the first four
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five years and then it finally just didn't want to start so at that point i just said well i've got
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a problem and so i did know exactly what to do after that so it's just been sitting there i am
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i've been maintaining the the tires and the the fluid levels and everything but it just doesn't
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start if you if i think it i think you're right it may be a starter problem because the starter
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does not engage so if you call the tow truck and bring this to your favorite repair shop to fix this
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it's either going to be a a pretty quick fix they're going to nail it down and they're going to say
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you need a starter or you need a battery something quick like that or b you got some rodent damage
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and you're in some serious trouble now that's then we're not going to sound like he's got this
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in a rodent free environment that's well that's pretty much your only two right guys so you've
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either got something yeah a no crank situation is a pretty quick fix on a car with this low miles
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because nothing damaged it yeah rodent damage is a whole another story so i mean it's fine with that
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only two out well then you're then your option is it's not going to be too bad if you took it in
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Charles thanks very much for the call i was parked next to one of these at the grocery store
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last week yeah i'm cool with it it's uh yeah i'm down with it those are pretty cool looking
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they look nice eight six six five nine four four one five oh let's go to Nebraska and talk to John
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you're on the end of the hood show John what can we do for you yes sir i have a slight oil burning
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problem i have a excuse me i have an old five Colorado with a 3.5 five-cylinder automatic
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four-wheel drive i've had about eight of these and some of them were way more miles than that i'm 160
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thousand on it and uh it's it it it's really strange it it uses oil about a quart in a thousand
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miles and uh i have an old hot rider so i'm used to stuff that's used oil before in my life that's
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for sure but this is really odd it doesn't smoke except occasionally when i go on a short run
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and go into the store come back out and start it it'll do a little puff but not every time
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but it's noticeable and most of the time there's no sign of smoke coming out to tailpipe at all
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catalytic converter is burning up all that oil which is hard on the converter but
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we need to find out where that oil's coming from there's there's really three options on this the
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piston rings could be worn out causing the oil burning you could have bad valve guides in the head
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which you could pull the head off and have that redone to do it or it could be even a simpler fix
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bg products makes an oil system cleaner a flush for the engine you can put in there and you run
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it and it's a it's a heavy duty cleaning that's made to free up stuck rings we've had a number
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of these we've owned a couple here at norsens maybe three or four of them we've had some issues
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things going on over the years with them different things but oil burning because of stuck rings in
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these engines is one of the problems and if you flush this thing completely if you use the product
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and you clean it out thoroughly you can eliminate that but it's something you're not you're not
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wasting your money because a thorough cleaning of that engine could really help at this point
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to prevent any future issues but then you may discover you still need valve guides or valve seals
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put in it in the head um on top for oil burning not really a valve cover update on this engine like
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there are you know dormant product cells at valve cover we talk about a lot and that has to do with
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oil burning on a lot of v8 engines even some of the four and six cylinders but not on this
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particular i'm thinking more along the lines of clean it up for oil system control or valve
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guides john thanks very much for the call good luck we don't really have a lot of vehicles
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named after our area i was just thinking colorado i mean it's not very evocative the dodge dakota
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oh yeah badlands additions i guess yeah but we don't have like a a Chevy mandan the laverne
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