The podcast dives into Lane's experience at Luft Tokyo and the Type 7 rally, highlighting the unique venue and car culture in Japan. They discuss the recent Formula 1 race in China, focusing on team performances, rule changes, and driver dynamics. Listener questions cover topics like the original Genesis Coupe's appeal, Montana registrations for collector cars, and favorite driving experiences. The hosts also share updates on personal projects and car ownership considerations, blending automotive passion with lifestyle insights.
"What about the people that put their fingers over the license plate? Keiichi Tuchiya. Those cars have such a cute little face, you know?"
Keiichi Tsuchiya is a famous race car driver from Japan who helped make drifting, a way of sliding cars around corners, very popular.
Keiichi Tsuchiya is a renowned Japanese professional race car driver and is often called the 'Drift King' for popularizing drifting as a motorsport and driving style.
"It was kind of like a Ronal kind of vibe, but like or like a tech art."
Ronal makes special wheels for cars that look cool and help the car perform better. People who like to customize their cars often choose Ronal wheels.
Ronal is a well-known German manufacturer of alloy wheels, popular in automotive tuning and enthusiast circles for their distinctive designs and quality.
"It was kind of like a Ronal kind of vibe, but like or like a tech art. Like a tech art? Okay. Tech arts were good. Tech arts were and are cool. Continue to be so. They are still? Well, I mean, they're cool when I see them. I don't know if they exist as a brand, but they are still. I don't think they do. Tech art."
TechArt is a company that makes Porsche cars look and perform better by adding cool parts and designs. They make the cars more unique and fun to drive.
TechArt is a German tuning company specializing in modifying Porsche cars, offering custom body kits, wheels, and performance upgrades to enhance both aesthetics and performance.
"They have, you know, great taste and Porsches. But the transporters, there was that picture of the nine, six, two is getting unloaded and it had those goal wing door kind of things."
The Porsche 962 is a special race car made by Porsche in the 1980s that competed in long races like Le Mans. It is very well-known among car fans for being fast and successful.
The Porsche 962 is a famous Group C and IMSA GTP sports-prototype racing car built by Porsche in the 1980s. It is known for its success in endurance racing, including the 24 Hours of Le Mans.
"...very few, three 56s, speedsters. Um, like if you go to LA, it's, I don't know, 30% pre-911 stuff."
The Porsche 356 is an old and famous sports car made by Porsche. It is small and light, making it fun to drive and popular with collectors.
The Porsche 356 is a classic sports car produced by Porsche from 1948 to 1965. It is known for its lightweight design, rear-engine layout, and is highly regarded among vintage car enthusiasts.
"Um, nine, 12s, nine, 11, like early, early stuff like that, but then you get into like three 56s and all the weird, uh, early cars that race cars and"
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that has been made for many years. It has the engine in the back and is known for being fast and fun to drive.
The Porsche 911 is a legendary sports car first introduced in 1964, known for its distinctive rear-engine layout and timeless design. It has undergone many generations and remains a benchmark in sports car performance and engineering.
"Um, nine, 12s, nine, 11, like early, early stuff like that, but then you get into like three 56s and all the weird, uh, early cars that race cars and"
The Porsche 912 is an older Porsche car that looks like the 911 but has a smaller engine. It's a classic and a bit easier to own than the 911.
The Porsche 912 is an early Porsche model produced from 1965 to 1969. It features a four-cylinder engine and shares much of its body and chassis with the Porsche 911, making it a popular entry-level classic Porsche.
""Um, did you watch formula one this weekend? Absolutely. Of course he did. Folks, of course, China, they're out there in China.""
Formula One is a type of car racing where the fastest and most advanced cars race on tracks all around the world. It's the top level of car racing.
Formula One (F1) is the highest class of international single-seater auto racing sanctioned by the FIA. It features the fastest and most technologically advanced race cars competing in a global championship.
"they all had a tinker with turbo stuff. They had to like, you know, control their boost."
Boost is the extra air pressure that a turbo adds to the engine to help it make more power.
Boost refers to the increased air pressure generated by a turbocharger or supercharger that is forced into the engine's intake, allowing it to burn more fuel and produce more power.
"they all had a tinker with turbo stuff. They had to like, you know, control their boost."
A turbo is a part that helps your car's engine make more power by pushing extra air into it. It uses the engine's exhaust to spin a fan that squeezes air into the engine.
A turbo is a forced induction device that increases an engine's efficiency and power output by forcing extra compressed air into the combustion chamber. It uses exhaust gases to spin a turbine that compresses the intake air.
"I mean, I don't know if it's an internal, you know, engine issue, misfire kind of thing."
An engine misfire is when the engine doesn't fire correctly in one part, making the car shake or run badly.
An engine misfire occurs when one or more cylinders fail to combust the air-fuel mixture properly, causing rough running, vibrations, and loss of power.
"...it's still clear that, um, Mercedes is at the forefront and they got the most powerful, kind of most well rounded package..."
Mercedes is a famous car company that makes really fast race cars in Formula 1, which is the top level of car racing in the world.
Mercedes is a major automotive brand known for its high-performance Formula 1 team, Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team. They have dominated recent F1 seasons with powerful and well-rounded cars.
"...just to see like him going up against, you know, a Russell in the same car and George is phenomenal..."
George Russell is a driver who races very fast cars for the Mercedes team in Formula 1, which is the top car racing series in the world.
George Russell is a professional Formula 1 driver currently racing for the Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team. He is recognized as one of the top talents in the sport.
"So, um, man, I saw a picture of them flying home on Toto's jet and it's Toto and Lewis and George and then like the Toto's wife and some other lady."
A jet is a small airplane that rich people or teams use to fly quickly from one place to another, like between car races.
A jet refers to a private jet aircraft, often used by wealthy individuals or teams for fast and convenient travel. In Formula One, team principals and drivers sometimes use private jets to travel between races.
"I like, I like this Mercedes versus Ferrari thing."
Ferrari is a famous Italian car company that makes very fast and expensive sports cars and races in big competitions like Formula 1.
Ferrari is an Italian luxury sports car manufacturer with a legendary history in motorsports, especially Formula 1, where it has been a dominant and iconic team.
"I like, I like this Mercedes versus Ferrari thing. Yeah, that's really fun to watch. And dude, Ferrari versus Ferrari was amazing at this race. Yeah, that's awesome too. And I mean that, that type of racing, like that close for them to like, you know, it's, it just shows like how these guys are the best in the world, obviously, but like, they're so good and they trust each other."
Formula 1 is a type of car race where the fastest and best drivers race special cars on tracks around the world.
Formula 1 is the highest class of international single-seater auto racing sanctioned by the FIA, featuring the fastest cars and most skilled drivers competing on circuits worldwide.
"They know how, how to race and, and you know, there was a couple little wheel banging things here and there, but to not crash is insane and they like,"
Wheel banging means when the wheels of two race cars touch or hit each other while they are racing close together.
Wheel banging refers to the contact or collision between the wheels or tires of two racing cars during close racing, which can be risky but sometimes tolerated in competitive motorsports.
"I'd be so nervous if I was the Ferrari guys, but another plus one for the shape and size of these new cars because it allows for that to happen a little bit easier. Yeah. The old cars are just so insanely big and very fragile."
How big and shaped a race car is can change how easily they can race close to each other without crashing.
The size and shape of race cars affect their aerodynamics and ability to race closely; smaller, more compact cars can allow closer racing with less risk of damage.
"Even before era where it was all mechanical grip and it's all just, you know, it's more raw, but there were always advantages here and there and stuff like that."
Mechanical grip is how well a car's tires stick to the road because of its parts like the suspension, not because of air pushing it down.
Mechanical grip is the traction a car gets from its tires and suspension without relying on aerodynamic downforce. It is crucial in racing, especially in earlier eras before advanced aerodynamics.
"Yeah. I'm just curious to see if like, you know, what, what Cadillac does. I don't know if they'll ever get into the mid-pack this year or if it's just going"
Cadillac is a car company from America that makes fancy and powerful cars, and they also race in some competitions.
Cadillac is a luxury automotive brand from the United States known for its premium vehicles and recent involvement in motorsports, including electric racing series and endurance racing.
"Didn't they finish like one of their drivers actually finished the race? Yeah. So yeah, I mean, McLaren didn't finish, you know, or Aston either, right?"
McLaren is a famous car company from Britain that makes very fast sports cars and races in big car competitions.
McLaren is a British automotive manufacturer and Formula 1 racing team known for producing high-performance supercars and competing at the highest level of motorsport.
"Haas dude killing it, like Haas is, that's, that's exciting too, like to see that. And, you know, fifth place. I really like that."
Haas is a team from America that races in Formula 1, the top car racing series in the world.
Haas is an American Formula 1 racing team competing in the highest level of motorsport, known for its rapid progress and competitive performances despite being a relatively new team.
"It feels like it's going to be heavy, uh, a little bit, uh, unresponsive. And so if you're going for like a sports car, it doesn't really fit that bill. It's more GT, but then it's like kind of expensive for what it is, right?"
GT means a car that is made to be comfortable and fast for long trips, not just for racing or quick driving.
GT stands for Grand Tourer, a type of car designed for comfortable long-distance driving with a blend of performance and luxury, often heavier and less focused on raw sports car dynamics.
"...uld be more respected. It's a, it's like a fancy Veloster. Is that where we're going with? Well, yeah, but..."
The Hyundai Veloster is a small car made by Hyundai. It has three doors and is designed to be sporty and practical for daily use.
The Hyundai Veloster is a compact hatchback with a unique three-door design, blending sporty styling with everyday practicality. It appeals to buyers looking for an affordable, fun-to-drive small car.
"...ag? There's always Vermont. Well, yeah. And South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Nevada. South Dako..."
The Dodge Dakota is a medium-sized truck made by Dodge. It is used for carrying things and can be easier to drive than bigger trucks.
The Dodge Dakota is a midsize pickup truck known for its car-like handling and versatility. It offers a balance between full-size trucks and smaller pickups, appealing to those needing utility without bulk.
"...r dealer that was, had very expensive cars, like Aventadors and maybe a Pagani or something with Montana plat..."
The Lamborghini Aventador is a very fast and expensive sports car made by Lamborghini. It has a big engine and looks very aggressive.
The Lamborghini Aventador is a flagship V12 supercar known for its extreme performance, aggressive styling, and advanced technology. It represents the pinnacle of Lamborghini's modern engineering.
"...heir way to like pull over, uh, you know, like an E30 or something, you know, versus like a hyper car ..."
The BMW 3 Series is a small luxury car made by BMW. It is known for being fun to drive and comfortable. The E30 is an older model that many people like because it looks classic and drives well.
The BMW 3 Series is a compact executive car known for its balanced handling and sporty driving dynamics. The E30 generation, mentioned here, is especially revered among enthusiasts for its classic design and engaging driving experience. It often serves as a benchmark for driver-focused sedans.
"we're going to throw the book at you. It was like the DA saw that this person had, you know, $3 million in cars and decided to like get their tax money out of it."
Taxation means the government charges money for owning expensive cars, like extra fees or taxes because the car is worth a lot.
Taxation in this context refers to the government levying taxes on high-value vehicles, which can include registration fees, luxury taxes, or other taxes based on the vehicle's value.
"for cars that, um, the cars that we see Montana plates often, um, what that are enthusiast cars like older enthusiast cars are having difficulty smogging their car."
Montana plates are license plates from Montana that some people use on their cars to avoid paying higher fees or passing tough tests in other states.
Montana plates refer to vehicle license plates issued by the state of Montana, often used by car enthusiasts to register vehicles in states with stricter regulations or higher taxes, such as California. This practice is sometimes used to avoid emissions testing or high registration fees.
"as our California roads become more, uh, monitored with, um, cameras and toll, like automated tolls that these systems can now track your movements."
Automated tolls are machines on roads or bridges that charge you money automatically when you drive by, without stopping.
Automated tolls are electronic systems that collect toll fees from vehicles without requiring them to stop, often using cameras or transponders to identify vehicles and charge the appropriate fee.
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What about the people that put their fingers over the license plate?
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Those cars have such a cute little face, you know?
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Lane Art.
Whoa. Art Lane.
Lane Art?
Lane Art.
They made the best wheels in period.
They're pretty good.
Yeah, they were kind of like a style twos.
It was kind of like a Ronal kind of vibe, but like or like a tech art.
Like a tech art? Okay.
Tech arts were good.
Tech arts were and are cool.
Continue to be so.
They are still?
Well, I mean, they're cool when I see them.
I don't know if they exist as a brand, but they are still.
I don't think they do.
Tech art.
We are without Lane.
Lane thought he would make it back in time to record this podcast,
but he's still either in Japan or in transit.
I don't know, but if you are on Instagram, you've probably noticed.
He went to Luft in Tokyo, which looked unbelievably amazing.
And then to the rally, the Type 7 rally to the Megara Gawa Club,
which looked equally amazing.
So there you go.
That's what Lane's up to.
That's it.
That's all that show.
That was a really awesome venue.
Yeah.
Yeah, super rad.
It's funny to me because like knowing the background of this
and seeing the commentary, it's like, oh my God, they closed a highway
and all this other stuff.
And it's like, you know, it's all about timing and opportunity, right?
Like this is a this is an elevated section of highway in Tokyo called the KK line.
And that section is closed for sort of like repurposing and they're doing kind
of like the New York Highline concept where they're pedestrianizing it
and having, which is amazing, right?
Like you're sort of like walking through these buildings and stuff.
And so it's going to have, you know, different businesses on there.
And it's going to be an elevated park basically, you know, through the city,
the high line, the high line exactly.
So what they're going to do is now after this is it's going to become that.
So who knows if there will be room for, you know, a future lift there, right?
I don't know.
Maybe they still can pull it off if there's enough space.
But yeah, if they create it as like an event space with park like setting,
would be cool.
Right.
Yeah.
I don't know if that's going to be the case or if this is a one and done
just like a once in a lifetime opportunity to have this space like this.
But regardless, such a it's the, I mean, as cool as it gets, right,
from a venue standpoint and actually putting on an event like this,
it's like it's, it's real and makes for epic photography and cool, cool ambiance.
And yeah, great backdrops.
The other thing I really appreciate about these shows.
Well, in, in this case, being in Japan is yes, the cars are amazing.
They have, you know, great taste and Porsches.
But the transporters, there was that picture of the nine, six, two is getting
unloaded and it had those goal wing door kind of things.
I was thinking, imagine like having a huge warehouse,
like a hanger and like in the back is that transporter with the cars in it
displayed like that, like instead of them being on a rack or a lift, right?
It's like, that's your storage solution is like a sick Japanese
transporter with one, one side open, just like with some lighting on it.
It's so rad.
Yeah.
It's like a little curated display.
Yeah, it's, it's very cool.
I mean, all of it, it's so rad.
I just, you know, I really, I technically could have gone, but like we're
just away for so much, you know, right now with like, when there's
all so much work stuff happening that we need to plan for Radwood this year
and just, it would have been a stretch, you know, so I couldn't.
The time change is the, the kicker.
Yeah, especially if this was in like, you know, uh, Chile, you could make a case
for it, but yeah, cause there's important work meetings that need to happen.
And then you're like, all of a sudden checked out in the middle of the night
over there, it's like all screwed up.
So, um, but yeah, I looked amazing and look forward to hearing back and
obviously the content's coming through and you know, Lane's killing it with
the photos and, um, all the stuff that I'm seeing and just also the, the, it
looks like they made it so that they started later.
So you got some night shots too, like among the space, which is even better
right cause you're like among all this neon and cool buildings and stuff.
So, and there's so much light there, you know, I would imagine there's a lot
of like just ambient light to light up the venue and not have to think about
that from a, you know, organizers perspective, um, that helps a lot
instead of being out in like some, you know, dark parking lot where there's
no lighting or something.
I'm very curious to know about, like once, once he gets back, like we'll
talk through it, but like, like I saw some tents and stuff, like I guess they
had some like food areas, VIP section.
I don't know how that all, what's like the infrastructure build out and like
how they sorted it.
Like I don't know where, like is it even, I didn't even check is it, was it
free to attend or did you have a ticket?
Yeah, I had the same questions cause they also, they seem to have also like
very specific placement for certain cars.
So I don't know if the car tickets were different too, right?
Like where you had, um, like a standard ticket, which is just cars parked
in a row and then you had like the, the standout showcase cars.
Like, like we do, you know, it's one observation was it, it, um, swayed heavily
into the Radwood era, very few, three 56s, speedsters.
Um, like if you go to LA, it's, I don't know, 30% pre-911 stuff.
Oh, right.
Easily.
Yeah.
Like maybe 50%.
Yep.
Um, nine, 12s, nine, 11, like early, early stuff like that, but then you get
into like three 56s and all the weird, uh, early cars that race cars and
Cabralays and stuff, but there was very few of those that I saw photographed,
but I could be wrong.
Yeah.
Well, it was kind of, it was like nine, six, fours, nine, six, twos, um, nine,
nine, threes of course, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, but yeah, it looked like a great show in the McGarregal.
I looked amazing per usual.
So yeah.
And they looked out on weather and all the things just looked like a great,
great time.
Um, so hopefully lane is, uh, getting a egg, solid sandwich at 7-eleven as we
speak and heading back to the States, I saw someone on Instagram posted a video
of like a DIY, like he basically, I watch the same thing, which I'm going to do.
I decided we go on this camping trip that, you know, about in Memorial Day weekend
and there's a hundred people that go and we have to provide a meal.
Usually we do breakfast burritos, which is nice, but I was thinking of a bonus
meal as these sandwiches, like the right, you know, the Cupid, Mayo, the white,
the perfect white bread, sliced perfectly.
You know what I mean?
Do you think I could pull it off?
I think you can pull it off.
I mean, I think, uh, well, the bread is the key part.
That's, I think so too.
That's, and it's, it exists here.
You have to go to like, you know, agent store, but, um, Japanese store, even
better, if you can find one.
It's almost like a pastry bread, you know, it's like sweet and delicious and
spongy, fluffy.
It's, um, but yeah, it's also, um, I think it has cream in it too, or something,
which I need to take pills for the bread.
Yep.
Yeah, it has dairy.
The bread has cream in it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't know anything about the bread, but, uh, I did eat one basically every day.
In fact, I, I would, I pulled one of these where we ate before we left for like a
short train ride and then I got off the train.
I was like, I should probably get a sandwich, you know, like just a little
something here.
This is before our food tour, by the way.
Oh, wow.
Which was a great, that was good times.
Good times.
Um, did you watch formula one this weekend?
Absolutely.
Of course he did.
Folks, of course, China, they're out there in China.
Um, yeah.
What was your big takeaways?
I think, uh, man, how, how quickly the mighty have fallen with McLaren is that,
that's just unbelievable.
Yeah.
I mean, that's what happens with these big rule changes, right?
I mean, that's, dude.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very, um, shocking, but, uh, it was, it was fun to watch.
I don't know how you're feeling about the rule changes and just the overall race
in general, but, um, seemed more, more entertaining once again.
Yeah.
No, I'm, I'm, I think it's, I think it's great.
And I feel like it's also something that, you know, naturally all of the teams will
have to get used to and adapt.
Um, but it reminds me a lot of like what F1 used to be like, right?
Like, if you look at the 80s, um, you know, people turbo air stuff and they,
they all had a tinker with turbo stuff.
They had to like, you know, control their boost.
They had to regulate their fuel usage, all that stuff, right?
Like, and those are details that is not just a given.
Like ever just fill up and then use all your power, right?
Like you blow your motor up and so there's reliability and all of those things.
And now we're seeing attrition, which is amazing.
Like we didn't have any attrition forever to see a car break down.
That's so true, especially early date, like before a race attrition.
Yeah.
That's wild.
And that used to be the case.
Yeah.
Some cars didn't make it to the, you know, to the, um, to the grid and, and we're
seeing that now based on this new real set where people are, or teams are
struggling to, to, you know, they had, you think all the time in the world, right?
As much as everyone else was given, but some people are right.
So did you, um, find out what happened to Alonzo's car?
Because it looked like it had like a crazy, either an engine vibration or like
the steering wheel is shaking, but it almost felt like the whole car was shaking.
Both of them.
So that, that Lance strolls car also, I don't know what it is, but, um, but yeah,
it's, it's yeah, who knows.
I mean, I don't know if it's an internal, you know, engine issue,
misfire kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know where it is.
That's why I haven't looked it up, but, or even, I don't even know if it's been
revealed, but, but yeah, both of them complained about the same problem.
Um, but yeah, the racing was killer and like, obviously like it's still clear
that, um, Mercedes is at the forefront and they got the most powerful, kind of
most well rounded package and also like camey killing it.
Like, you know, he, I've been saying, like, I know, like he's like from last year,
I was clear to me that this guy is going to be a future champion.
Like he's extremely skilled.
He's still amateur, not amateur.
Um, what's the word?
Looking for some green green.
Yeah.
He'll make mistakes and you know, and stuff like that, but that's natural.
Um, and like just to see like him going up against, you know, a Russell in the same
car and George is phenomenal.
He's one of the best out there too.
And, um, it's, it's awesome to see that.
So I think we're looking at a new, a new max restop in situation here.
A new era, huh?
Yeah.
And yeah, it was also a cool full circle moment to see Hamilton up there with, um,
Antonelli and just knowing that that was like his hero and, you know, pictures of
him as a little kid with Lewis and then now he's.
And he's an old engineer.
So like they were, that was, that was cool.
Uh, and even Toto gave him like props and they were all super stoked up there.
So, um, man, I saw a picture of them flying home on Toto's jet and it's Toto and Lewis
and George and then like the Toto's wife and some other lady.
I can't remember who else is in the picture.
Oh, oh, BOTAS is who posted it.
Oh yeah.
And I was like, it's just so funny how you think like, oh, they're just so like rivals
and, you know, but we know that they're just buddies and kind of all in the same business,
right?
This is like the business of formula one.
You're like, Hey, uh, what are you doing?
Let's kind of get a ride.
You know, just, I don't know.
This is funny.
Like Lewis and being on the Mercedes, you know, principles jet seems very, um, um, Ferrari.
Yep.
Yep.
It's a, it's, but I mean that's, it just gives you a little bit of background.
We've talked about it before, right?
Like everyone's like, Oh, like, you know, Max and, you know,
Leclerc hate each other or whatever, but then they're like in playing video games.
Obviously like it's just like us, right?
Like if we were doing something together and like we're annoyed with each other,
we talk shit, but like we're, you know, it's just didn't, we're, you know, it's, it's not
have.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like they're going to have to be with each other all year long.
They live in the same places.
Like, I don't know.
I just think it's a, we hear about all these rumors and like, you know, uh, backstabbing.
It's like, nah, I think that's just well.
There's also, yeah, the whole drive to survive drama, right?
They try to like make, make stuff out of nothing.
I think that's what I'm talking about.
The drama is what sells, right?
So I'm sure there are some, some, there are some, you know,
naturally you're going to have some, some rivalries and some friction, but like
it's not like they, you know, they are serious enemies or anything like that.
I mean, I'm sure I don't know anything about basketball, right?
But I'm sure there's like, there's a, you know, you're a Steph Curry versus LeBron or
whatever, right?
Like, and they're probably super tight like off the court.
Well, that's the funniest thing.
Like, uh, Draymond has Draymond's wedding.
Anyways, LeBron was there, uh, invited like all like the, you know, top players and
the NBA were there and on the court, it's like, oh, they hate each other and their
rivals and then they're like vacationing and doing all this stuff.
So it's all, it's all relative.
I'm stoked on it.
I mean, this is, yeah, the seasons, you know, I think it's, it's going to be
really interesting and I'm very engaged.
Um, I'm digging what I'm seeing.
I like, I like this Mercedes versus Ferrari thing.
Yeah, that's really fun to watch.
And dude, Ferrari versus Ferrari was amazing at this race.
Yeah, that's awesome too.
And I mean that, that type of racing, like that close for them to like, you know, it's,
it just shows like how these guys are the best in the world, obviously, but like,
they're so good and they trust each other.
They know how, how to race and, and you know, there was a couple little wheel
banging things here and there, but to not crash is insane and they like,
they were fully, fully racing and they, they let them, you know, they, so I know,
I'd be so nervous if I was the Ferrari guys, but another plus one for the shape and size
of these new cars because it allows for that to happen a little bit easier.
Yeah.
The old cars are just so insanely big and very fragile.
So yeah, it's all, all feels good.
I mean, I hope there's definitely like a lot of shit talking about the rigs and
the new power, power trains and stuff like for stopping.
I think immediately it was just like, nobody wants to watch this.
Yeah.
I mean, it's well, I think a lot of people were also saying, I don't know if this is
true because like for stopping, I don't know if it's full of shit, but he's like,
I would be complaining about it even if I had the fastest car out there because
it's not real racing and like, and I highly doubt that just like,
does he say anything if he wins that race?
No.
Right. And it's like also like, you know, because like you had DRS before, you also
had, you know, powered, you know, deployment and all this other stuff.
Now it's just a different system, you know, and like that's part of that.
That's like what motorsport is, right?
It's like learning the new gear and the new, it's always been the case.
Of course, yeah, the fastest guy is, you know, when, as you go back into the 60s,
and of course it was a pure form of racing, right?
Even before era where it was all mechanical grip and it's all just, you know,
it's more raw, but there were always advantages here and there and stuff like that.
But I think this is, this is a good iteration like for, you know, this, for this era,
I think it works well and I'm on board.
Yeah. I'm just curious to see if like, you know, what, what Cadillac does.
I don't know if they'll ever get into the mid-pack this year or if it's just going
to be, because they seem to be way behind the A-ball, although maybe even a little ahead of
Didn't they finish like one of their drivers actually finished the race?
Yeah. So yeah, I mean, McLaren didn't finish, you know,
or Aston either, right? So, I mean, they had there in that sense, but
Haas dude killing it, like Haas is, that's, that's exciting too, like to see that.
And, you know, fifth place. I really like that.
Yeah. Bearman is great and like also to see them, you know, up, up in the mix there is,
is really cool. So I'm definitely rooting for them. Obviously, you know,
they do that mid-pack race. It was actually really good and they didn't show much of it.
But yeah, that's a, it's definitely more encouraging to watch. And we didn't mention,
I think we were texting about it, but like the fact that the Bahrain and Saudi Arabia are canceled,
like that's pretty big news. They have a huge break between races.
Well, I'm just surprised that they're just completely out. Like I thought there was,
there were talks of them like doing a double header in Japan, which makes perfect sense.
I mean, I guess if they have enough time to schedule that and plan it, because that's a
massive staffing and ticketing and all that stuff. But yeah, like if you could pull it off,
that's a place to do it. Because yeah, you figure like loss revenue, sponsor packages,
all the stuff that goes with the sport. And then just the fact that you have this big,
like it's like almost a spring break, you know, where these teams are going to have this huge
lull. And does that mean they can develop the cars further? Like a McLaren?
Well, there's no testing, right? So they can't do that, but everything off, you know,
just they can definitely do stuff like on the same and whatnot. But I can't remember to what
extent they can work on the cars. I know they can tweak some stuff, but they definitely can't test
on tracks. That's not allowed. So how do they do those mid year updates? Like where it's like,
oh, so-and-so has this, you know, whole new package or whatever. So I think that's,
yeah, that's a possibility. That's stuff they develop like before or
I don't know how that all works. Yeah. Anyways. Yeah. Do you know what the next race is? I don't
even know. I don't know yet because now with those two, what are we doing here?
Is it Singapore? No. I think it is Japan, isn't it? Or it's Japan? I think it is Japan. Yeah,
actually. I don't know. I'm like running on like four hours of sleep over here.
What's new dude? It's an issue. Well, this was the worst. Yeah, because I actually managed to
sleep okay a couple days before that, but my oh wait, hold on top of the morning to you.
Happy St. Patty's Day. So yeah, my five year old kept waking up throughout the night because
she wanted to see the leprechaun and and so I had a like container in the room. We played this game
early days. And we're like, no, like, well, if he sees you, then he, whatever, you know,
the whole thing. And so, and so, and my wife and my, our 10 year old had done this whole
thing downstairs, like little drop, little like shamrocks and all this other shit. And like,
we wanted it to be a big sort of thing in the morning, right? And so yeah, like all night,
she kept waking up and talked to me talking to me about it. And I like six a.m. I gave up. I just
kind of like stayed half a half awake and she was just talking and she wanted to draw and I was
like, oh my God. But yeah, so it was a thing. Man, you could have three kids. Imagine that.
Yeah. Yeah. There's this. I'm shocked. We got some, we got some questions. We got some questions
from last week. I promise we'd answer them. So let's do that now, shall we? Let's do that.
All right. I'll just go random here. J pod 999 says the original Genesis coop. Why did it not
really catch on? Was it just not great? Uh, so that's the V six, uh, the original one 3.8
liter. I think I think that's the one that, um, Marcelo had. And I remember him tracking it a
ton and saying it was actually a good driving car, but it was very fragile. Like it was like,
like the brakes were shit, like suspension stuff, like all that. So he had to like
beef it up quite a bit, but it was, yeah, cause they were very powerful. Like, um,
and I mean, aesthetically, I guess they're kind of, they're okay. You know, it's like,
they're, they're good. Yeah. Like better, better looking than a 350Z, I'd say. Yeah. But I think
it's a combination of like Hyundai, uh, brand, you know, lack of cache and at that time and like
obviously things have evolved, but I wonder if now people look back and try to source them and
like actually, you know, fix them up. Um, I rarely see them, but I think it's more just a numbers
thing, right? Like they're all clapped out and like it was like a kid's, you know, either a
first high school sports car or college kid car, maybe. Oh, that's funny. I would think of it as
it was more of like a, like a first job kind of person car, you know, like out of college,
they needed, well, I'm just thinking of pricing, right? Like they're so cheap. Yeah. But like,
I think, I think initially they were expensive compared to their, you know, competitors and
they were, the brand cache, I wasn't there, like you said. So, uh, and it just didn't appeal to
like people in the driving while awesome type community. Um, it feels like it's going to be
heavy, uh, a little bit, uh, unresponsive. And so if you're going for like a sports car, it doesn't
really fit that bill. It's more GT, but then it's like kind of expensive for what it is, right?
Well, yeah, I mean, it's a direct competitor to the 350Z. So, um, yeah. So there was different
packages. I mean, this is a 2016 model. Um, the original MSRP was 26, 950 for a base.
And then there was an R spec, which was like this performance model. And then there was the
ultimate, which I guess was luxury and performance. So the R spec was 29 grand and then the ultimate
was 33 750. Um, so I mean, not super expensive. Um, you know, like, like for, I guess what it,
yeah, because what is it 350Z? Um, and that's for a brand new, like rear wheel drive V six
with like 350 horsepower. So that's, that's, that's a pretty, yeah. I think they should be
more respected. It's a, it's like a fancy Veloster. Is that where we're going with?
Well, yeah, but this is where we'll drive. Um, yeah. So, uh, yeah, look at that. So yeah,
I think it's comparable to pricing with a 350Z surprising. Um, so that doesn't help.
And you could get a four cylinder or V six on the Genesis, I believe.
Oh, okay. Maybe. Yeah. So there was the basis, probably that, that cheap one there.
Yeah. Which I think was a turbo, turbo charge engine, but, uh, yeah. So I don't,
I don't have a lot of experience with them. I do think they're, they're okay looking. Um,
I liked the Genesis sedans that came out at the same time. They were a little bit more
reserved. These had a little bit of a transformer front face going on. Yeah. Yeah, they're not
my style. Yeah. That's sort of the same idea, right? As you're looking at a kind of, I mean,
Hyundai aesthetics, right? It's like, but the one thing it has going for it, which you love
art is the I three, uh, window dip. Oh gosh, I love, uh, no, it's more like the one thing I
definitely do not like. Actually, I just remembered this right now that, um, oh, one second, uh,
trying to get the dog out of the office, um, is that it sounds like absolute crap. And, uh,
we had one do a fly by at, uh, see bright motors. Do you remember? Oh, and we thought it was a vq.
It was the only car that did something stupid and it sounded awful. Yeah. It was, we thought it was
a vq and then we looked and it was one of these. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like, oh, that was bad all
around. Yeah. Yeah. I just think you're not really getting much. Uh, I don't think it's worth
investing your time. One other here's, here's another big take, another big component. And I
am saying your community. Yeah. Yeah. Like you're, you're buying into something that just
doesn't really, it's, it's, it's this type of shit, right? It's like, it's the ricey exhaust with
like the stupid graphics and then dumb, you know, just weird mods. Having said that, you're
basically, yeah, it's basically you're in a 350 z crowd and gen and infinity g 35s. Like
that's your world. Do you want that? Then that's you. Uh, John Rice says,
California is starting to crack down on Montana registrations. Do you guys see this as being a
problem for older enthusiast cars or mostly aimed at the ultra wealthy trying to dodge taxation
hashtag? There's always Vermont. Well, yeah. And South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Nevada.
South Dakota. Yeah. Um, well, I know that. So the, the story he's referring to is that, uh,
there was a local district attorney that targeted a specific collector or dealer that was,
had very expensive cars, like Aventadors and maybe a Pagani or something with Montana plates,
taking photos all over the Bay Area. Clearly the car was a California car,
but they paid $7,000 in tax instead of $70,000 or whatever the equivalent was. So that's this,
that's the headline. They, they targeted this person. They made a big deal out of it to like
scare other type of owners into this, uh, end up, you know, being aware. So to answer your question,
Art, I don't know how you feel about it, but I, I think that the, um, there's a lot of, uh,
a lot of fish to fry in that. Well, yeah, I think it's, it's really targeting like those,
those cars specifically, like I, you know, and it's also at the cops discretion, right?
Like they're going to go out of their way to like pull over, uh, you know, like an E30 or
something, you know, versus like a hyper car or super car that's obviously doing that for, for
a specific reason, right? Um, so I think that's always been the case. I think now there's just
a lot more publicity. I don't know if like there's a, an initiative where it's like, I have, I didn't
read the article, but I did see a lot. I see it. I saw it pop up everywhere, but is it like, okay,
like this is now a priority as you're out there, like seek these cars out, right? Like, I don't
know if that was like, no, it was, it was actually targeted from not from the police
standpoint. I think it was targeted from a registration perspective where they, they
saw these cars on Instagram with license plates and they went back and figured it out. So
I don't think it came from a stop where they got pulled over and then they're like, okay,
we're going to throw the book at you. It was like the DA saw that this person had, you know,
$3 million in cars and decided to like get their tax money out of it. So I'm not as worried like
for cars that, um, the cars that we see Montana plates often, um, what that are enthusiast cars
like older enthusiast cars are having difficulty smogging their car. It's not to avoid tax. Like
we would happily pay total taxation for California plate. Like that's not the problem. It's because,
yeah, it's because you do things that, uh, make it very difficult to smog the car and then you
take the path of lease resistance. So like you said, there's other states that allow for this.
And then, you know what, you can just drive to Montana and hang out for a little bit and drive
back. That's fine. Yeah, just road trip at it. That's not dodging taxation. That's just
traveling dude. I travel, you know what I mean? But I do think that if I was, uh,
in my, um, new Lamborghini, whatever the fuck model, uh, with a Montana plate, I would not
be, uh, I would not be resting easy. Right. And I, I know also that as our California roads become
more, uh, monitored with, um, cameras and toll, like automated tolls that these systems can now
track your movements. So even if you have a K truck that is Montana plated and you're driving
over the Bay Bridge, uh, that will potentially trigger a, a notice. Um, so remains to be seen.
I mean, Jesus Christ, there's so many other things to deal with, like in the world, like
whatever we could go on and on about billionaires and taxation, but this, uh, if I was driving a
seven figure vehicle with a Montana plate, I would definitely be, um, trying to figure out my
plan B. That's all I can say. Uh, Bobby Reed with the cars says, which car would you love to
experience driving for the first time all over again? Hmm. I think I, we were given the keys to a
Lotus, um, was it an X each? Or no, it wasn't X each. Uh,
what, at least, what do you mean? I think it was just a standard lease. It was, uh, again,
it was a black lease. Oh yeah. That was a, that was just, it wasn't an X each. No, but I drove it
at night on a fairly rough road and I've never driven one since or before. And I would love
to give that another go because I really like those cars. I want to like kind of figure out
what they're all about. And if you can find the right balance, if it's not too extreme, in other
words, that, that drive was very extreme. It was like, couldn't see that. Well, um, very buzzy,
rough experience. And I wonder if like doing a rally would be more of that and just be like,
oh, this is horrible. Or like, I can do a groove with it and like experience it. Um, I think you,
if, if it's the same roads that we normally do, you would hate it. Um, the, especially the stock
suspension, it is really, really rough. It's super stiff and like there's, and there's just
everything comes through comes through everything comes through because it's like all bonded and
like, you know, it's like, it's basically like a stitch welded monocoque, right? But it's actually
like all glued together and all the mountain mounting points and everything. Like there's zero,
um, thought given to comfort. It's all, it's all like function, right? And so
the seats themselves, all that. So it's straight up, like as close as you can get to a go cart. So
I think it's more like, you know, in a certain type of environment, like highway nine,
like I drove that exact car, like, and it was amazing. I drove it after a podcast at like 10
PM. No one around. I think that's probably when I drove it was before you took it home.
I drove it like up the road and back. Oh, I see. And it was just like, uh,
not, not a great experience. So yeah, that, that's exactly what I'm envisioning is like
smooth pavement, like great. Yeah. Great road. Yeah. That's where it excels or track, right?
Like, I mean track as well, but, um, but I've driven an exige and that one and
believe it or not, um, Nick Woodman's exige with arrow and all this other shit, but
the key being really nicely set up. Olin suspension road way better than a stock car,
like cause it, it actually like, you know, it dampens beautifully and like it's all
take it. It's all like, you know, the spring rates are matched beautifully, everything. And so
like there, there, there are ways to like fix that. Um, but you have to go after market. Um,
but yeah, it's, I think yeah, like a first gen. How good is a first gen Elise?
All the first ones that we never got here that Brent Coleman had. He had a S 2000.
No, it was a B 18 C five, which is an, uh, an integral type of 18. Yeah. Yeah. Uh,
Honda swapped, uh, first gen Elise and it looked great, but yeah, I don't know if those are even
more extreme. I imagine so because they were more kit car like, right? Whereas like later,
they got, I've never driven an early one. I think I haven't either better. Yeah. Do you think
they're just like even more rattly and I think so? Yeah. I mean, it's just going to be just
like more chintzy, but like, um, I don't know in terms of comfort, I imagine it's going to be equal
to that, right? Um, but yeah, the, I think, yeah, they call them S ones. I just looked it up. I
couldn't remember what they call them. So good looking. They're so rad. Yeah, they're awesome.
And that one in particular, I know like, I think at the time he sent it to me and I could have
bought it or something. I can't remember and I'm like, I think I was in the same boat. I just
didn't want a Frankenstein car that I, and also I think Brent had said it was like giving him some
problems with, I can't remember. Like it wasn't running great. Kind of like your ether. Yeah,
like it just had needed little needed some tinkering, you know, and it's not the end of the
world, but I wasn't in a position to like go down that road, that lonely road. Um, how about you?
Any cars? Um, sorry, I went down the rabbit hole of like pulling it up because it's sold on cars
and bids after like, so it went sold once and then it went back on cars and bids. And I was
curious to see what the price was because I remember it being kind of a deal. Yeah, it wasn't
like 25. Maybe, I don't know if it was that low, but, um, but yeah, people can look it up. It was an
S one with a, with an Integra type R swap and, um, yeah, super, super package Arizona. It was
Integra type R swapped, uh, 111 s 43 grand. I don't think that's it. I don't know. Maybe it
wasn't, but anyways, um, yeah, thinking through it, um, and I'm thinking what is it like? Yeah,
because your take on this is like being a better environment to be able to enjoy the car, you
know, versus like trying to revisit it because it was such like a pivotal or like formative moment
that you want to have it again. Like that's sort of the way I was seeing this question, right?
Yeah, I thought about that too. So yeah, do you have one like that? Yeah, and that's what I'm
thinking about. Um, like when I had, I drove my E 30 before I owned it. It was my friend's car and
he lived in Arizona and Phoenix area and we had a night out on the town and, uh, there were drinks
consumed and then I was less, uh, less inebriated. So I was driving home and that was the first time
I drove the vehicle. So like my E 30 that I ended up owning for almost 20 years was basically like
after a night out, um, ripping home through these like track home communities in a, uh,
nice E 30. And that's when I was like, Oh, I actually really like these. And I, I was always,
you know, wanting the new, I wanted an M three at the time, like an E 36 M three, which were
pretty contemporary. But, um, once I drove it, I was like, Oh, I, I dig this car. So then I ended
up owning it, but that'd be kind of cool to revisit that night, right? Good times. Yeah,
um, I'm just thinking more like a car that I want to drive again because of that. And
it, and I keep thinking about that V 12 advantage. Uh, and that is also, it checks a couple boxes
here because when we drove it, when we had it for a couple of weeks, it was on really old pilot
super sports. Do you remember? They were like five years old and we're super heat cycled. So
like it was hard to put the power down. So it was like very slidey and stuff, but like the rest of
the car was so awesome and like it was easy to drive like balance wise. It was just like it just
wanted to go sideways immediately because it had no traction. Um, but like that motor, I think to
this day is, is I don't know if it's my number one, but it's maybe my top one, two, maybe number two
poo poo. Um, it's I love that motor, man. It is. It sounds incredible. Everything about it. Like
it has so much like character from like when it starts, the way it sounds when you start it,
the way it sounds when you rev it, how silky smooth it is and how the throttle response is
so awesome to, um, and it sounds amazing induction wise, exhaust wise, like just the tractability,
but also it's Revy and it's it's such an incredible motor. So that's one of my favorite engines of
all time and then paired with a manual transmission rear wheel drive GT car. Like that is such a cool
package. I'm a huge fan of those cars, um, but I didn't get to fully, fully like, you know, push
it or enjoy it because it was like so sliding. You know, it was like explosive.
Yeah. Yeah. I drove that car. I had it for a while and, uh, did all sorts of roads with it,
but, uh, yeah, that was great. I wish I feel like you would really enjoy the V12 Mercedes. If they
made a manual transmission SL like to compete with that would have been so, so awesome. Um,
because that's just another amazing motor. Um, SF production Gabe says, I have a question about
LSDs. If you had to go back in time and remove from the course of history, either limited slip
differentials or the popular psychedelic drug, which are you saying goodbye to? Well, well,
it's not like I'm doing, I'm dropping acid weekly here. You know, like, um, as, as, as amazing as
psychedelics are, um, I mean, I, I obviously driving is a much more integral part of my life. So
I would have to drop that. I mean, and then go, there's mushrooms, there's psilocybin,
there's other options to explore, expand your mind, man. Exactly. So let me all counter you with this
that, um, Steve Jobs, uh, uh, credits LSD, taking LSD in the Santa Cruz mountains as the most
formative experience of his life. And it changed the trajectory of his whole career
and why we, you know, Apple computers existed and, uh, you know, why I'm holding an iPhone
and looking at you through an, um, MacBook right now. Uh, so there's, there's that argument. The
other argument is music, right? Like the Beatles and the Grateful Dead and all of them experimented
with, uh, LSD when in its purest form back in the day. And because of that, the course of music
went a certain direction. Does it happen the same way with, uh, mushrooms? I don't know. A lot of
weed, a lot of weed up in these hills. There's DMT. There's other options. Yeah. So I, I, I'd
still, I'd still, you know, stick to it because you're looking for, you're looking frogs, as
I was saying, looking frogs, peyote, whatever. Um, yeah, I just, I think like, especially with
performance driving, like, um, I've been there multiple times when you come, especially up hair,
hairpins, when you're like, yeah, you're on a awesome, we know, we know, and then you, you go
and you go one leg out and then you just have no traction and you're spinning there and it's,
it just kills the whole experience. And like again, driving is something that I do daily,
sliding my car around a turn, like LSD way more controllable, way more easy, but you're, you're
talking about it from your personal perspective. I'm saying he's saying from the course of history,
course of history, and I'm, and I'm trying to miss the course of history, but
a lot. So I'm saying is the Apple computers, the Grateful Dead, the Beatles, like yeah, these
things, these things change the course of history. This is true by doing psychedelic drugs. I don't
think mechanical or, you know, or any type of, you know, performance oriented LSD has been as
pivotal in the history of the world as, as psychedelics have. I mean, or, or even drugs in
general, right? Like Chet Baker, that's where I'm at. Probably one of the most renowned jazz
musicians of all time, you know, he was into drugs and, and they say like, that's a, that's a,
that's an argument, right? It's like, what did it, what has music been the same if, if he was a sober
dude? You know, like, and that's, that's where I'm, that's where I'm coming from right now. And
let's not forget that the LSD experiments were happening over in Stanford. The scientists had
some, they brought it to a party in Santa Cruz. They all took LSD and that's when the Grateful
Dead played one of their first concerts ever. That was just down here near Soquel.
Yeah. So, so yeah. So that, the question, yeah, I didn't realize it was that. I thought it was
my, my, my perspective on it from the course of history. It was this game nation, by the way.
Hell yeah. Of course it was. Yeah. So I didn't know my boy game. All right, dude. I'll go
open differential and occasionally freaking, although it doesn't matter. I impact the world.
I mean, then you got people out there that drive a lot and have driven more
performance rallies than anyone we know. Paul at auto kennel and he doesn't mind
a non LSD car. Yeah, it's annoying. Also, this is another fun thing too is like
imagine one of the most practical applications of LSD is, you know, loose or slick surfaces,
right? So if you're driving in the snow or in icy conditions and you don't have an LSD,
you're not, you have less control and you're not going anywhere. So
how many of these Steve Jobs was driving in Telluride one time, but he had LSD and
he had an LSD in his car and it saved his life. If he didn't have it, he would have gone off the
cliff. Yeah. What if he had an open diff, but he was on LSD and he was able to just channel in
some shank dude. He just like, he was, he became one with the vehicle and that's right and was
able to make it work. You said slippery. He was thinking his mind is slippery. Yeah, man. This
is just, yeah, it's a different, what do you call it? I was thinking he's on a different level,
right? So we don't even understand how he, how you, when you're on something like that,
you know, it's, you have a whole other level of control. Exactly. Thank you very much.
Reese McDaniel says, Hey guys, love listening to the show.
Lane can't thank you enough for the Alpha. So this is Reese Beeline who bought Lane's Alpha
Spider. It's my favorite car that I've owned and it brings me so much joy to drive. I'm thinking
of swapping the lower front valance to a quadrifoglio valance, which sits more flush with the front
bumper. In your opinion, is this a worthy swap or should I keep the original design? Dude,
Reese, go OEM plus on that whole car. Just make it as rad as you can without going,
don't get weird, but man, yes, definitely do that. Yeah. Sounds like the move. Yeah. Like one of the
best like visual upgrades you can make to those cars are the Plexi covers for the headlights.
And that's, you know, OEM plus, and then I would second that with upsized, like
alcoholic style wheels. So they look like OEM style wheels with the holes, but they're bigger
probably spacers. Yeah. That would, that looks huge. That looks huge. That looks huge. And then
like you could like, I don't love those seats. So like killer rickaros of the era would be a cool
idea. If you're really feeling spendy, talk to Kugel up at Kugel, Kugel works and he'll make
you a killer little front air dam. Well, the one that he's talking about is like, it's nice. Yeah,
it's a yeah. And also because that one of the aesthetic things that sucks about these cars is
that they have that big rubber bumper, right? So like this air dam sort of kind of like it's sort
of kind of fills helps fill that space, I guess for lack of better term. Yeah. And it makes it
more integrated and like not like this addition that just was like, oh, we have the safety
regulation now and we have to figure out a way to like incorporate these huge bumpers on this car
because like yeah, if you look at, um, you know, like the earlier cars, they have smaller
daintier little chrome bumpers and that's what the original design was supposed to be, right? But
then they tacked on these gnarly ones, but like, you know, brakes, suspension, exhaust, intake,
like, yeah, get, get creative. Get after what you're saying. It's not a car that you need to keep
preserved. They made a ton of them. They're not super valuable. In fact, I think that would add
value. I think so too. A lot of other other cars, you know, higher end cars that you're
tweaking with, um, may not add anything or bring it down a touch. Um, this I think you can have
some fun with. So I agree. Go crazy. Group C curation says, how dope was that town and country
with the window sticker on the dash? So he's referring to our Radwood Amelia, which once again,
nobody's commenting on the Ferraris or the Diablo. It's the town and country minivan
that gets a ton of love. Yeah. I mean, that's, that was a standout. Um, just, I don't know if
he was there last year, but no, he said it was his first Radwood, right? Um, so last year we gave
Radist. Oh no, it wasn't Radist import. It was Camisa's award. Camisa. It was the I drive that
home award to the purple one that was there. So there was a purple caravan that was also
super minty and he and that one received an award. But yeah, this one was definitely
it was all decked out too. It was like the top of the line, right? Like leather interior with all
the town and country town and country baby. Let's not forget gold, gold trim on a dark gray car.
It was very nice. Yep. Pretty nice. I am more partial to the earlier model than that. Like the
you know, you like the more squared off the more squared off ones. Yeah. Like those are
that I think they're it's just because it's like it's more, it's a personal thing, right? Like I
remember going on a road trip with our family from the Santa Cruz area all the way up to Seattle
in one of those and it was a rental. Like, you know, you could, you know, obviously these were
rental. So at the time, you know, when you could do this sort of thing, I remember sitting in the
very back in the trunk, like on luggage with my cousin and we were just like looking out the back
window, like fucking with people and we must have been six or something. You know, I barely
remember this. So it was one of those things, right? Just like it's like a personal thing also
like seeing them around and one of my uncles had one. He had a burgundy one with the fake wood
trim, all that stuff. So that's those are, I think those are the coolest and they were also the
first of their kind, right? So they were kind of revolutionary. Yeah. Oh yeah. Go on. I was just
saying enough to be on the on the mall. What is it the the freaking at the capital? Oh yes,
cars on the capital that are going into the registry. So I've thought about these cars in a way
like at Philadelphia, Radwood a few years ago, our buddies at LBI now. Oh yeah, the white one.
That was so sick. They brought a first gen white turbo manual caravan, which you know, when you're
looking at it, it's like this thing's ridiculous and I don't even know like who who's this car for
nowadays, but I could see owning that for a year, having a lot of fun with it everywhere you go.
It went like this comment's a perfect example. Like it is the town and country, the perfect
town and country from the Radwood era that's going to get a ton of attention everywhere you go.
And you can have fun with it. You can load up your friends. You can go cruise around like
it's very cool. So yeah, those are the kind of cars where I think you could buy and enjoy and
be just fine like value wise without any issues and they're so easy to work on.
White five spoke Shelby wheels too, which looks so good on it.
It really did and it was red interior or burgundy and manual, but you know, I shouldn't say
they're easy to work on. I'm just saying that parts are out there. I don't know
a little bit. Maybe, maybe not. But anyways, kind of goes back to my comment. I was telling you,
I'm like, when am I going to have time to own a Tahoe two door, a two door Tahoe, which I've
always loved time and like how it's like time. You need time for it. Yeah, it's like, dude,
when, when is that going to happen? I already have a truck and, uh, you know, or like a C
10 or a Silverado short bed. Like I've always wanted one. I don't have one. I don't know what
I'm going to do it. Yeah. That's why storage is such a big thing. These things, right? It's like
for people like us where we live, where it's like we live. That doesn't even exist. It's like, well,
you know, but I mean, that's why it's like a thing, right? There is, because it's people like us
who are like, I would love to add these cars, but where am I going to put them? So, oh, well,
let's now go pay someone 300 bucks a month to store these cars, you know, and like, I know,
that's, that's the move. I mean, but it's all like a, it's a cost opportunity. It's an opportunity
cost from like an ultimately, like if you're going to pay X amount to store a car, then you
want to spend more on the car, right? To make it for, to make it make sense. So then are you buying
the $15,000 truck or are you going to want to store the car? That's, you know, something else,
but I thought about this too in terms of like a car like this. Let's say it is a caravan manual
turbo and it's $20,000, but it's perfect. It's already been gone through. It's got new tires on
it. It's, you know, it's totally dialed. That is the one you want, right? Because I don't think
you're going to lose on it. I just think that's a car that a cool, maybe it's not, maybe it's not
20, maybe it's like 15, but that's, that's a car that you want. I wouldn't want to buy a $6,000
example and then I have to do all the stuff, right? Especially because the buying is so low to get
the nice one. I mean, it's so low, right? Yeah. And I mean, with, even with the blazers, I really
like the, is it the sport pack, the four by fours that have the, the over fender flares,
like it's like a 94, 95, like a Z71. Those are so sick. Yeah. Like the stance on those like with
lift and tires and the wheels are really cool. Such a good look, but I know they've got the right
wheels. Yeah. I don't have a purpose for it. It's just an, it's a cool object to own. Well, like
you, you've talked about like G-Wagon stuff and Santa Barbara and that like obviously that's just
works in that area. Like everyone has them and it, it looks good and, or like a
Range Rover classic, but who's to say a two door Tahoe wouldn't be just as enjoyable. You're checking
off kind of the same box, right? Cause it is also aesthetically cool and like, and, and you know,
it's got to be eight, which sounds cool, all that. So yeah, I mean, there's, there's definitely a
case to be made, I guess. Um, and yeah, I mean, there's also a good beach vehicle, like that sort
of thing. I mean, yeah. So they are very cool. I think it's going to be more comfortable and
easier to live with really overall. I mean, parts are not cheap, but yeah, parts for sure.
Just anywhere, right? That's super easy. So yeah, anywhere. Yeah. Two door Tahoe's have,
they've been expensive for a long time now, especially low mileage ones, but they're still like
you know, a third less than a Range Rover or a G-Wagon. So you got that going for you. You do
anyways, you know, just just talking, just talking here. I do have a quick project car update.
I've been replacing the door panels on the van again. Oh, right. I got those eight ABS
plastic panels. Um, I did the slider door. That was really easy. There's like two things you have
to do. Um, pop the old one off, pop the new one on. I did, uh, discover that the previous owner,
20 years ago, put on dynamite on the slider and one of the pieces of dynamite came unglued and
rolled into the door panel and that stuff is like, you know, bonded crazy. So at some point,
they just didn't put it on, right? Or maybe just over time it like lost its adhesion,
but then it like folded in a way where I had to like rip it out. Anyways, these are old car
things you start to experience. So I'm doing the front passenger door way more work. Like it's got
all the accessories you have to cut out. And so I'm using like a jigsaw and a grinder and like
getting it all right. And I'm using the jigsaw and I'm going through it like it's going smooth,
like no problem. And I finished cutting. It's still hard as a rock. It hasn't moved at all.
The cut bonded it back together. It got so hot that the ABS plastic fused exactly in the same spot.
Couldn't break it out. Had to do it again. I'm like, okay, clear. You'll go the same line again.
It'll, that'll be enough bonded back together stronger than ever. So you're basically cutting
and it's not, there's no cut. So I thought for a second, like, how do I do this? I have to cool
it down. Oh, just a little, uh, you don't know jack spray jackoff spray, right? And that cooled it
down and it cut no problem. Yeah. Cause that's the key, right? You have to so that it stays cold.
Otherwise it, it gets like basically, you're trying to reduce, reduce the friction, right?
Cause otherwise it's just getting it so hot that it bonded back together in a perfect,
it looked like a little plastic weld, essentially what was happening. So anyways,
I'm pretty close on it. There's a couple of more annoying things about it, like the speaker hole.
Anyways, I'm not going to get into here, but, um, and of course I forgot to take pictures of
the before and after. I just like popped the old panel off and I'm like, oh, I should have like
taken that photo, but maybe I'll do it for the driver's door, which was going to be the hardest
one. I have a feeling cause it has even more as the mirror adjustment and all that. So anyways,
the sliding panel looks good. It's very clean, gray plastic. Um, and then I updated the, uh, the,
the press, um, tabs that hold it all in place. They provide black ones for some reason. So I
bought gray ones. Looks okay. It looks very clean, simple. So that's, that's satisfying. I mean,
and yeah, and then you can always upholster it later if you want, but I'm just going to leave
like this for now. And I think cause I mean it is you, it's a semi rugged vehicle, right? For
your use. Yeah. Like you don't like it's not upholstery and shit. And it's the upholstery that
was on it was pretty chintzy and you know, fake chrome strip. It's all OEM, but like this velour
and, you know, vinyl pattern and stuff. It just kind of silly. So well, yeah. And I mean,
you're going to do a synchro conversion anyways, and then you're going to do no, no, no, no,
this one's staying like that, but I need to buy a synchro. So that's another thing I have to buy
and then I have to buy a Westie. Okay. Oh, you got a whole and then I need the Porsche conversion,
of course, which is a whole thing. Um, trivia, I think so. Yeah. I don't have any updates. Um,
moment, except that, you know, I did get verbal commitment for my wife to replace our Cayenne
in January. That's the plan. So in January. Yeah. So we're talking finances and we're like,
all right, we're just going to have the Cayenne survive one more year through the end of this
year. Basically hold on. I just hold on there little guy. That's where we're at, right? Where
it's like contingencies here. If we have a $5,000 fucking bill, this thing's out and we're coming
in. Oh yeah. Yeah. So, um, but yeah, we're looking at a bunch of different options. Um, and
I know that she, um, she doesn't like the volvos are too big and floaty. Uh, the XC 90s,
for her, for taste, the interior is nice, but driving experience is not there. You know,
I actually was, I haven't gotten her in one started talking through it, but I know you're
anti all an all EV daily fleet, but this is a way for me because, you know, I drive these cars,
you know, I drive all the cars. I drive our, her daily 70% of the time really like it's,
you know, when we're doing trips and stuff like that, but there may be a take-in angle here
because they're used. There are some deals and I would love to have a take-in like wagon. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. That would be pretty sweet, but it's all like for her, you know, she's all into the,
you know, this is an SUV world, you know, that we live in and we were just being high,
high up there, aggressive grace and all that, but she really enjoys driving the e-golf and she
drives the e-golf a lot and it hasn't been a problem for her. Um, so I don't know. I'm like
starting to plant those seeds. So cause I mean, like, there you go, like Farrah bought his for
60 grand, like lightly used and like that was like two years ago and yeah. And so, and they're
getting cheaper, you know, like so and yeah, and they're, you know, you get one with that, that's
cp owed and like you get the base one. I don't need a super turbo, whatever, you know, totally
and it's just such a great car and like it's checks a lot of boxes, you know, so, but we'll
see because it's she really likes the new mcconnev, like that's like, like the main one, the, the
four, the four, small, small front runner, it's front runner. It's very similar to our current
generator because we have a nine, five, eight point two, which is the previous generation
cayenne. And so the mcconn is bigger, which is very similar interior volume front and rear
seating to the where our cayenne, but you lose trunk space. Um, yeah, but our kids are older
now, so we're carrying less shit. We don't do strollers anymore. We're not doing that. You got
a dog. You got, I have an eagle for my dog. So I'm like, I'm not, I know, but you know,
but yeah road trips, road trips, all right, 300 mile range. We'll see. I mean, we got a
nine months until the decision or, or maybe expedited if you know the fucking cayenne. That's
right. If you put some, if you put some sand in the oil, it's going to need a water pump and then
the this and the transmission goes out and then, you know, but it's exciting times. I'm happy to
just good times. Just a verbal like that's like where there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
Okay. Okay. We got to wrap this up.
Uh,
trivia time. Uh, you probably know the answer to this because this has been, I think this
is going to be trivia last time. So it's been bouncing around the Instagram algorithms and
stuff, but the USPS just introduce a new line of stamps. What vehicle is featured? Oh, I know this.
That's what I just said. You probably know this. I mean, well, it's not just one vehicle. It's
all low riders. No, it's, it's type. Yeah. It's type of vehicle. The low rider.
I think you probably need to get some of those on or your Watsonville heritage.
Dude. Yeah. It's like, it's, it's a, what do you call it? It goes without saying or whatever.
Like it's a
I do want some and I think it would be rad to like frame them and put them up in my office.
Oh, I like that. Yeah. Cause I mean, that's a way more to use them.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, apparently they sold out immediately. I don't, I've had from what I've
heard. So I don't know if like, I'm even going to be able to get some at least not for a while.
Oh yeah. You're probably right. Huh? Well, maybe if you go to Montecito,
uh, less pop, yeah, that's the move, right? It's like, it's like, that's, you know,
what's funny is I was looking at take hands in like Missouri, you know, or like play like here,
they're obviously super popular. So like that, you know, you want to go to a dealership and
someplace that nobody wants them like and yeah, you know, yeah, truck country or something, but
exactly. Uh, next question here, we finally have some of the data from the Amelia and all the
auctions. Uh, what was the average sale price of a vehicle at auction at Amelia Island, average
sale across the board, huh? Cross the board, all auctions, not just broad arrow.
Cause you have those big outliers. So we had, there was, I don't know what the other auctions
did, but there was like, I know there was a few Enzo's, um, and then there's the 13 million
dollar Enzo that we sold or brought our did and then 6.7 million Carrera and there's the Mira
five something. Yeah. We know the big cars. What was the average? And then you got a lot of six
figs. So I'm going to go 485,000 Bob. It's a good guess. I mean, that's still insane, right?
Last year's sale price, average sale price was 570 and this year 705 $705,000 was your average car.
But you know, like you said, Gooding had a 250 California short wheelbase covered headlight
spider, 16.5 million. And then the Enzo abroad era was 15, uh,
Sotheby's had a RRM that was through, uh, at Mota had a $7 million spider too. So anyways,
$705,000. Also the short wheelbase California spider that Gooding sold for $16 million
had an interesting history. I just looked up, um, it's a work of art, by the way,
this is like one of the most stunning cars ever made in 1960 Ferrari, California spider.
And it was part of a collection, a crown jewel collection purchased in the 70s by a guy, um,
in Scots Valley. Oh, no way. And it stayed in a collection in Scots Valley forever. It was
purchased at Ferrari of Los Gatos. Wow. Which I love. This is our local, you know, was our local
Ferrari dealer. Um, and it went to Ronald Van Creighton. I don't know if I'm pronouncing the
last name, right? Um, but he was a knowledgeable enthusiast with a lifelong fascination for
mechanical objects. He had all sorts of cool stuff, but he basically had exceptional collection of
preserved cars. And he had a 300 SL Goldwing and a Roadster, a 289 Cobra, an Allard J2X,
Pin and Farina Cabrera Ferrari. And then of course the California spider was the crown jewel.
When he passed away, it was then purchased by the, the selling owner at this auction.
And what did he do right off the bat when he bought this car that was been preserved and
perfect in California? He restored it. Oh my gosh. And that's how it's sold.
Why would you do that? Then it sold. He sent it to a place up in Washington, uh, to be,
you know, restored to a concourse standard. It was definitely like
a very, very high level. And I think they did, you know, take care and keeping it
as preserved in some areas. Also the car had its original body engine, like everything,
except for the interior, I think was like all original to this car. So that's what 16,505,000
dollars buys you. The estimate was up to 18 million. I can see mechanical resto if you're
going to enjoy the car and drive it, but if you're just going to flip it, I don't know if like
there's a good hour. I would love to talk. I know. I want to talk to some experts there and say,
A, how much was the restoration? B, did it add value or would a car that's been preserved since
1976 in a collection perfectly maintained be worth more than the car that's been, you know,
stripped down to bare metal and painted? Right. Well, now it is. And that's why I'm like kind of
so it could have been paint crazed and you know, I don't know, but even then like dude,
that's that's what you want. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know what the logic was that behind that
one, but funny that I'm surprised you don't know that family. I mean, there's right there in your
neck of the woods and never heard of them. And they're probably like five miles from me was
this whole collection that apparently just stayed indoors. Didn't never brought it out to
nostalgia nights in scott's valley. Never bought it out. Some warning motors at that
shopping center that should have got them out there. All right. That's a podcast.
Thanks for joining us. We'll see you next time. Alrighty later. Bye bye.
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