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Luxury or Leverage? Decoding BYD’s European Markup

Luxury or Leverage? Decoding BYD’s European Markup

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About this episode

Bode digs into BYD’s Denza Z9 GT, a premium EV that challenges assumptions about Chinese brands being purely budget-focused. After a personal intro about procrastination and overpreparing for guest spots, he explains Denza’s Mercedes-BYD origins and how it’s now fully owned by BYD. The spotlight is on the Z9 GT’s wild specs: 1,140 horsepower, 2.7-second 0-60 time, a 122 kWh battery, three motors, rear-biased driving, and crab-walk maneuvering. The big question is whether BYD is using Europe’s luxury market to justify a higher markup.

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Firestone

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Firestone makes tires for cars and trucks. In this ad, they’re saying their tires are built to be dependable.

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""State Farm Life Insurance can help protect your family's financial well-being through life's milestones. Your State Farm agent can help you choose flexible coverage you can adjust as your family's needs change.""

State Farm is a big insurance company. They’re advertising life insurance here, not cars.

Topic

electric vehicles

""Hello, everyone, and welcome to Kilowatt, a podcast about electric vehicles, renewable energy, autonomous driving, and much, much more.""

Electric vehicles are cars that run on batteries instead of gasoline. This podcast talks about EVs and the technology around them.

Topic

renewable energy

""Hello, everyone, and welcome to Kilowatt, a podcast about electric vehicles, renewable energy, autonomous driving, and much, much more.""

Renewable energy means power from sources like the sun and wind. The podcast covers that because it connects to electric cars and charging.

Topic

autonomous driving

""Hello, everyone, and welcome to Kilowatt, a podcast about electric vehicles, renewable energy, autonomous driving, and much, much more.""

Autonomous driving means cars that can help drive themselves. The podcast includes that topic because it’s part of modern EV tech.

Topic

Daily Tech News Show

"And this is a story that I actually did on the Daily Tech News show yesterday. So if you came over here from DTNS, thank you very much. ... The first, I think it was the first time I was on DTNS."

This is another show the host was on. He’s saying he talked about the same news there and is now giving a fuller version here.

Topic

AI in video games

"And they were talking about some story and Tom just throws to me. And he's like, what do you think about XYZ? I think it was AI in video games and like, basically AI building an infinite world, which, you know,"

He’s talking about a different subject he was asked about before: artificial intelligence in video games. It’s just a quick reference to another conversation.

Car

Z9 Denza Z9

"So I overprepared for those. And that's why I have so much content on the Denza Z9 GT car. And we're gonna go into a little bit more detail like I said about that today."

This is the exact car they’re talking about. Denza is a luxury EV brand tied to BYD, and the Z9 GT is one of its models.

Concept

premium car brand

"It is BYD, the premium car brand. Or excuse me, it's Denza, the premium car brand that happens to be owned by BYD Group."

This means a nicer, more expensive car brand. It usually has more features and a more upscale feel than the cheaper models people associate with the parent company.

Concept

bell and whistles

"Is it going to have every bell and whistle? No, but will it have more bells and whistles than another car that costs $13,000? Yes, it absolutely will."

This just means extra fancy features. Things like nicer screens, better seats, and more tech count as bells and whistles.

Concept

joint venture

"Just a little bit of history. Initially Denza was founded in 2010 and it was a joint venture between Mercedes-Benz and BYD."

This means two companies teamed up to start a business together. In this case, Mercedes-Benz and BYD worked together on Denza.

Brand

Mercedes-Benz

"Initially Denza was founded in 2010 and it was a joint venture between Mercedes-Benz and BYD."

Mercedes-Benz is the luxury car company from Germany. The hosts mention it because it helped start Denza with BYD.

Company

BYD Group

"But in China, if you want to sell your cars in, if you want to sell your cars in China and you're not Tesla, then you need to partner up with a Chinese firm in a joint venture. So I don't know what the initial motivations for this were, but Mercedes and BYD Group partnered to build this premium brand Denza."

BYD is a big Chinese car company. Here, the hosts are talking about how BYD ended up owning Denza by itself.

Term

premium brand

"But in China, if you want to sell your cars in, if you want to sell your cars in China and you're not Tesla, then you need to partner up with a Chinese firm in a joint venture. So I don't know what the initial motivations for this were, but Mercedes and BYD Group partnered to build this premium brand Denza."

A premium brand is a nicer, more expensive car brand. It usually has more features and a fancier image than a regular brand.

Term

minivan

"So now it's a wholly owned BYD company. Denza makes the D9, which is a minivan, but they're also making this premium, I think it's a sedan, it looks like a sedan to me."

A minivan is a boxy family car with lots of room inside. It’s usually built to carry people comfortably rather than to be sporty.

Car

D9

"So now it's a wholly owned BYD company. Denza makes the D9, which is a minivan, but they're also making this premium, I think it's a sedan, it looks like a sedan to me."

The Denza D9 is a minivan made by Denza. The hosts are using it as an example of the kinds of cars the brand sells.

Term

wagon

"Denza makes the D9, which is a minivan, but they're also making this premium, I think it's a sedan, it looks like a sedan to me. It could be a crossover, it could be kind of a wagon."

A wagon is a car with extra space in the back, like a longer sedan. People often use it when they want more cargo room without buying an SUV.

Term

crossover

"Denza makes the D9, which is a minivan, but they're also making this premium, I think it's a sedan, it looks like a sedan to me. It could be a crossover, it could be kind of a wagon."

A crossover is kind of a mix between a car and an SUV. It sits a little higher and usually looks more rugged than a sedan.

Term

plug-in hybrid

"It comes in a plug-in hybrid version, or a plug-in EV version, and a battery electric version. So plug-in hybrid EV, yeah, and battery electric version."

This is a car that can run on electricity for a while, but also has a gas engine. You can plug it in to charge the battery instead of only filling it with gas.

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battery electric version

"or a plug-in EV version, and a battery electric version. So plug-in hybrid EV, yeah, and battery electric version. So we're going to talk more about the battery electric version today."

This means the car is fully electric. It doesn’t use gas at all and gets all of its power from a battery.

Car

BYD Z9 GT

"So we're going to talk more about the battery electric version today. So the specs for the Z9 GT, which is the specific car that we're going to talk about today."

This is a specific electric car made by BYD, a Chinese car company. They’re talking about the version that runs only on electricity and comparing its performance to other fast EVs.

Term

trim

"Depending on the trim you pick, these kind of vary, but I picked one trim just to keep it simple. An impressive trim to keep it simple."

A trim is like a version of the same car with different features. One trim might have more power or nicer equipment than another.

Term

horsepower

"An impressive trim to keep it simple. But you're going to get 1,140 horsepower. It'll go 0 to 60 in 2.7 seconds, 0 to 62 miles per hour in 2.7 seconds,"

Horsepower is a way to talk about how strong a car’s powertrain is. More horsepower usually means the car can accelerate harder and feel faster.

Term

0 to 60

"It'll go 0 to 60 in 2.7 seconds, 0 to 62 miles per hour in 2.7 seconds, and that's 0 to 100 kilometers. And that's impressive for a lot of reasons,"

This is a simple way to measure how fast a car can speed up from stopped. A lower number means the car is quicker off the line.

Car

Tesla Model S Plaid

"And that's impressive for a lot of reasons, just because, you know, that's Model S Plaid territory right there. But also, like the Lucid Air,"

This is Tesla’s super-fast version of the Model S sedan. The hosts are comparing the BYD’s speed to one of the quickest electric cars on sale.

Car

Lucid Air

"that's Model S Plaid territory right there. But also, like the Lucid Air,"

This is a luxury electric car from Lucid. The hosts are using it as another example of a very fast, high-end EV.

Term

122 kilowatt hour battery

"You're going to get a 122 kilowatt hour battery, and that's, you know, okay. You get 372 miles of range, which is not the best range that you are going to get for 122 kilowatt hours."

This is the big battery that powers the electric car. A larger battery usually means more range, but it also adds weight and can take longer to charge.

Term

range

"You get 372 miles of range, which is not the best range that you are going to get for 122 kilowatt hours. We can have some improved efficiencies, but still, not too shabby."

Range just means how far the car can go before it needs to be charged again. In electric cars, it’s one of the biggest things people care about.

Concept

efficiencies

"You get 372 miles of range, which is not the best range that you are going to get for 122 kilowatt hours. We can have some improved efficiencies, but still, not too shabby."

Efficiency is about how wisely the car uses its battery power. A more efficient EV goes farther without needing a bigger battery.

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three motors

"One of the cool things about this car, and this one cool thing does several things cool, but one of the cool things about this car is it's got three motors. So it's got one motor up front, and it's got two motors in the back."

This car has three electric motors instead of just one or two. That usually means more power and better control over how the car puts power down.

Term

rear-wheel drive

"So it's got one motor up front, and it's got two motors in the back. And most of the time, this car drives around as a real rear-wheel drive."

Rear-wheel drive means the back wheels push the car forward. It often changes how a car feels when it accelerates and handles.

Term

all-wheel drive

"But then also, when it needs that extra traction, the all-wheel drive will kick in, so that front motor will kick in, and you'll have that option."

This means the car can power all four wheels instead of just two. That helps the car hold on better when the road is slippery or when it needs more grip.

Term

crab walk

"The other thing is, is this car will drive diagonally. It will do what's called a crab walk, because the rear tires will turn a little bit. So that's super cool."

This is a trick where the car can move sideways at an angle instead of only straight forward or backward. It helps in tight spaces and looks unusual when you see it happen.

Term

pivot mode

"But the thing that I found to be the coolest feature, actually it's the second coolest feature, but the thing that I found to be the second coolest feature, I guess, is it has a pivot mode. So one of the things that people mention for this is the pivot mode is going to help with parallel parking, for instance."

This is a special driving mode that helps the car turn or swing around more easily in tight spots. It can make parking and low-speed maneuvering much simpler.

Term

parallel parking

"is the pivot mode is going to help with parallel parking, for instance."

This is when you park along the street, with the car lined up with the curb. It can be tricky because you have to fit into a tight space between other cars.

Term

infotainment screen

"This is all done on the screen, on the infotainment screen. So when you pull it up, it'll show the car,"

This is the big screen in the car that controls music, maps, and settings. In this case, it’s also used to turn on the parking feature.

Term

360 degrees

"You could technically, I guess, pivot in 360 degrees, but you can say how far you want it to pivot,"

This means a full spin all the way around. They’re saying the car might be able to turn that much if you wanted it to.

Term

wear on the tires

"[996.0s] BYD, or DINZA, says that this is not going to chew up the tires. [1002.0s] You know, it's got minimal wear on the tires. [1004.0s] We'll kind of see where that goes. [1006.0s] It does seem like it would have a little bit, [1010.0s] a little bit more wear on the tires"

This means how fast the tires get worn down. They’re wondering if the car will make the tires last a long time or wear out quickly.

Part

rear wheels

"[1021.0s] The other thing with this car [1023.0s] is it's got a really good turning radius, [1025.0s] partly because of the way that the wheels work in the back."

These are the back wheels on the car. They’re part of why the car can turn so tightly.

Term

pricing

"[1031.0s] It's being sold in China now. [1033.0s] It's going to be sold in Australia. [1035.0s] Although Australia pricing, there is reports [1038.0s] on what the Australia pricing is going to be, [1040.0s] but nothing's been officially announced by DINZA."

This means how much the car costs. They’re talking about what it might sell for in different countries.

Concept

turning radius in European cities

"But if you're driving a car in China, especially in congested cities, or you're driving the car in European towns and cities, you know, parking, some of the streets can be narrow. This car has an incredible turning radius."

The hosts are talking about why some cars work well in Europe even if they’re big. Tight streets and parking make it important for a car to turn easily.

Term

flash chargers

"BYD has these flash chargers, which are like one and a half megawatt chargers. So it can fill the battery in the BYD."

Flash chargers are super-fast chargers for electric cars. They can add a lot of battery charge much faster than a normal charger.

Term

megawatt chargers

"BYD has these flash chargers, which are like one and a half megawatt chargers. So it can fill the battery in the BYD."

This is a very powerful electric car charger. It can charge much faster than the chargers most people use every day.

Term

Blade II batteries

"The BYD is using, or excuse me, pardon me, the Denza. The Denza is using BYD's Blade II batteries."

These are BYD’s own electric car batteries. The speaker is saying Denza uses BYD’s newer Blade II battery design.

Term

LFP

"And they're LFP. And there's a bunch of magic that goes on. But the lithium-ion phosphate batteries are more robust."

LFP is a kind of EV battery. It tends to last a long time and be safer, but it usually gives you less range for the same battery size.

Term

NMC batteries

"They're not as energy dense as NMC batteries, but they're more robust. They're able to shove so much power through cooling and battery management"

NMC is another type of EV battery. It can pack more range into the same space than LFP, but it’s usually pricier and not quite as tough.

Term

battery management

"They're able to shove so much power through cooling and battery management and the battery chemistry. They're able to shove so much energy into this battery."

This is the car’s battery control system. It helps keep the battery safe and lets it charge quickly without overheating.

Term

10 to 97%

"You can charge this battery from 10 to 97% in about nine minutes with the BYD flash charger. And as far as I know from what I read, there's only like six BYD flash chargers"

This means the car can go from almost empty to nearly full very quickly. Charging usually gets slower near the top, so companies often stop the claim before 100%.

Part

BYD flash charger

"You can charge this battery from 10 to 97% in about nine minutes with the BYD flash charger. And as far as I know from what I read, there's only like six BYD flash chargers"

This is a super-fast charger made by BYD. It can add a lot of battery charge in just a few minutes, but there aren’t many of them yet.

Term

regenerative braking

"in this test because it leaves 3% for regenerative braking. Because once you charge an EV to 100%, you have no more regenerative braking."

This is a way electric cars recover energy when you slow down. Instead of wasting that energy as heat, the car puts some of it back into the battery.

Term

1.5 megawatt charger

"Pretty impressive, especially when you consider like a 1.5 megawatt charger. You know, there are some chargers that are 600 kilowatts, not megawatts, kilowatts."

This is a super-powerful fast charger for electric cars. It can add range much faster than the chargers most people see today.

Term

kilowatts

"there are some chargers that are 600 kilowatts, not megawatts, kilowatts. And you know, the Tesla chargers are typically around like 325 kilowatts."

Kilowatts are a way to measure how fast electricity can be delivered. For EV charging, a bigger number usually means faster charging.

Term

battery degradation

"I would like to see where this car is in a couple of years to see what kind of battery degradation we're seeing. But for right now, it's very impressive."

This means the battery slowly gets worse as it ages. In an electric car, that can mean less driving range and slower charging later on.

Part

console

"Now, can I tell you please about the coolest feature of this car, which is in the console between the driver and the passenger in the front seat, there's a little space that will keep things cool or hot."

This is the middle area between the driver and passenger seats. In this car, it has a special storage spot that can keep things cold or warm.

Part

refrigerator or warmer

"between the driver and the passenger in the front seat, there's a little space that will keep things cool or hot. So there's like a little refrigerator or warmer. You can choose which one you want it to be in that space,"

It’s a little compartment in the car that can make drinks or snacks cold or warm. The speaker is highlighting it as a fancy extra feature.

Topic

heated and cooled storage compartment

""which I think honestly is amazing, especially for somebody who lives in Arizona, being able to keep things cool, especially if it's something small, where you're running in, running a second errand." "Like if we go grocery shopping, you can't put a lot in here. So it's not like I can put every cold product.""

They’re talking about a car feature that can warm up or cool down small items. It’s like a mini hot-and-cold storage box built into the car.

Part

little container in between the seats

""So it's not like I can put every cold product. But if we go grocery shopping and I grab some, let's say meat or whatever, I can stick it in this little container in between the seats and run in and check my mail, for instance, and not worry about tainting or ruining the meat that I just bought." "It just gives you some more options. But obviously the other thing is you can keep food warm in there or you can put your drinks in there and keep it cool.""

This is a small storage box between the front seats that can keep things hot or cold. It’s handy if you want to leave food or drinks in the car for a short time.

Term

duties

"like in 2024, we talked about how the European Union put tariffs or duties on Chinese-built EVs. I was reading an autoblog article"

A duty is a fee added when something is imported from another country. It works a lot like a tariff and can push prices up.

Brand

Autoblog

"I was reading an autoblog article and they are reporting that there's a standard 10% tariff for products coming out of China."

Autoblog is a car news website. The hosts are using it as a source for the pricing and tariff information.

Term

10% tariff

"and they are reporting that there's a standard 10% tariff for products coming out of China. I don't know if that's all products, but we'll just say standard 10% tariff."

This means an extra 10 percent tax is added to something coming from China. That kind of fee can make a car cost a lot more in another market.

Concept

European Union

"is that in February of 2026, the European Union passed a law that will allow automakers to negotiate tariff prices or tariff percentages on specific models of cars."

The European Union is a group of European countries that share some laws and trade rules. Here, it’s the organization deciding how imported cars get taxed.

Brand

Volkswagen

"So if for some reason, let's say Volkswagen wants to bring a Chinese-built car into the EU, they can do that and then they can also talk to the EU and say, hey, can we get a deal on this?"

Volkswagen is a big car company from Germany. They’re being used as an example of a brand that might try to lower import taxes on a car made in China.

Term

Chinese-built car

"So if for some reason, let's say Volkswagen wants to bring a Chinese-built car into the EU, they can do that and then they can also talk to the EU and say, hey, can we get a deal on this?"

This just means a car made in China. Where a car is built can change how much tax it gets when it’s sold in another region.

Concept

assembled in China

"Because X amount of the vehicle is actually, while it's assembled in China, we're getting so much parts from the European Union areas. Can we get a break on this?"

This means the car is put together in China. That matters because governments often tax cars based on where they were assembled.

Term

parts

"Because X amount of the vehicle is actually, while it's assembled in China, we're getting so much parts from the European Union areas. Can we get a break on this?"

Parts are the pieces that go into building a car. They’re talking about where those pieces come from and whether that affects taxes.

Term

34,000 euros

"but still with those tariffs, we wouldn't see the price go from 34,000 euros to 115,000 euros."

This is the car’s starting price in euros. The hosts are comparing it to a much higher number to show how taxes can affect the sticker price.

Term

115,000 euros

"but still with those tariffs, we wouldn't see the price go from 34,000 euros to 115,000 euros."

This is the much higher price they’re saying the car would not reach just because of tariffs. It’s used to show how extreme the markup would be.

Concept

homologation

"And then there's homologation, which is an approval, basically it's the testing and approval process for these governments to say, this car is safe to drive on our roads and meets all of our standards. There's tweaks for the European market not only for them to meet those safety standards that Europe has, but also maybe they're tweaking some things to make it more appealing to Europeans."

This is the process of getting a car officially approved for sale in a country or region. The car has to pass local rules before people can buy and drive it there.

Concept

European market

"There's tweaks for the European market not only for them to meet those safety standards that Europe has, but also maybe they're tweaking some things to make it more appealing to Europeans. And we're gonna have different sensibilities when we're talking about folks who live in China and folks who live in the EU."

This means the car is being adapted for buyers in Europe. Different countries can want different features and have different rules, so the car may need changes before it can be sold there.

Concept

warranty claims

"So there's that, that adds a little bit of money. There's potential for dealers, warranty claims. They're paying Daniel Craig who was the last James Bond."

This is when owners ask the company to fix something under the car’s warranty. If a company expects a lot of these, it may charge more for the car to cover those costs.

Brand

James Bond

"There's potential for dealers, warranty claims. They're paying Daniel Craig who was the last James Bond. They're paying him to be the spokesman of the brand because it's supposed to be,"

James Bond is a famous movie spy character. Car companies sometimes use that image to make a brand seem cool or premium.

Term

value added tax

"The other thing is that I think it was unnoticed and I was guilty of this for sure early on or even when I say early on, we'll say seven years in. I was guilty of this as well, but in Europe, the value added tax, right?"

VAT is a sales tax system used in many countries. In Europe, the price you see for a car is often much closer to what you actually pay.

Term

out the door

"when you go to Europe for the most part and you buy a car, if it says that it costs $40,000 or 40,000 euros for the car, the car's gonna be pretty close out the door for 40,000 euros."

This is the final price you actually pay to drive the car home. It includes the extra charges, not just the advertised price.

Term

undercoating

"and then you have to pay for the undercoding and the this and the that and the waxing the glass and all the nonsense that they add on to the car that you don't get to choose if you get that or not."

It's a coating put on the bottom of a car to help protect it. Dealers sometimes sell it as an extra charge.

Term

add-ons

"they say the car is gonna cost $40,000 and then you have to pay for the undercoding and the this and the that and the waxing the glass and all the nonsense that they add on to the car that you don't get to choose if you get that or not."

These are extra things a dealer adds to the car price. They can make the car cost a lot more than the advertised number.

Term

dealer fees

"when you go to Europe for the most part and you buy a car, if it says that it costs $40,000 or 40,000 euros for the car, the car's gonna be pretty close out the door for 40,000 euros. Like there might be some things here and there that you have to pay, but it's not like the United States when the car, they say the car is gonna cost $40,000 and then you have to pay for the undercoding and the this and the that and the waxing the glass and all the nonsense that they add on to the car that you don't get to choose if you get that or not. You don't get to decline it. So the car costs $40,000 and then these other products cost another $2,500 because they wanna check up the price. And then you gotta pay tax on top of that"

These are extra charges from the dealership that get added to the car's price. They make the car more expensive than the sticker price.

Term

registration fees

"and then there's registration fees and all this other stuff. So with that, you know, a $40,000 car might cost $48,000"

When you buy a car, there are extra government fees to put it in your name and make it legal to drive. Those fees are separate from the car’s sticker price.

Term

purchase price

"that gets put into the purchase price that some of which you don't want, all of which you probably don't wanna pay"

This is the money you pay to get the car. It can be different from the advertised price once extra charges are added.

Term

taxes

"Like you legitimately have to pay taxes. You legitimately don't have to pay somebody to wax your glass or whatever nonsense"

When you buy a car, the government takes a cut called taxes. You usually can’t avoid paying them.

Term

tariffs

"So with that, if you take the tariffs, the home allegation, the shipping, the warranty stuff, the European market tweaks,"

A tariff is an extra tax on something brought in from another country. For cars, that can make an imported vehicle much more expensive.

Term

shipping

"the home allegation, the shipping, the warranty stuff, the European market tweaks, the boatload of money they're paying Daniel Craig,"

This is the cost of moving the car from where it’s made to where it’s sold. That cost gets added into the final price.

Term

localization of money

"Excuse me, I am terrible at my localization of money. Does that justify 115,000 euros versus 34,000 euros is what it starts at in China?"

They’re joking about converting prices between currencies. A car can seem cheaper or more expensive depending on whether the price is in dollars or euros.

Topic

premium European car market

"I believe that BYD sees an opportunity to compete in the European car market. Actually, I should say premium European car market because they're not competing on the low end. They think they can compete with Porsche, Audi, Mercedes, BMW."

This part is about the fancy, expensive side of the European car market. They’re asking whether a Chinese EV brand can charge luxury-car money and be taken seriously.

Brand

Audi

"They think they can compete with Porsche, Audi, Mercedes, BMW. Even Lucid is in the EU just a little bit."

Audi is a well-known upscale car brand. It’s mentioned here as one of the companies Denza wants to compete with.

Brand

Porsche

"They think they can compete with Porsche, Audi, Mercedes, BMW. Even Lucid is in the EU just a little bit."

Porsche is a famous luxury sports-car brand. They’re using it as an example of the kind of expensive car Denza wants to be compared with.

Brand

BMW

"They think they can compete with Porsche, Audi, Mercedes, BMW. Even Lucid is in the EU just a little bit."

BMW is a major luxury car brand. They’re saying Denza wants to be in the same conversation as BMW.

Term

price accordingly

"And if you're going to put yourself against these folks, you need to price accordingly. So kind of as a point of reference, and I don't know if you can hear this..."

It means setting the price to match the kind of car you want people to think it is. If you want to be seen as luxury, you usually have to charge like luxury.

Topic

Luxury EV price comparison

"then they have to compete in that same realm when it comes to price. Now, I'm just going to kind of read off a couple cars that are in that price range. And then I have a reason for doing this, but we'll start off with the Porsche Panamera."

They’re lining up a bunch of expensive electric cars to show what kind of market price they’re talking about. It’s basically a way to say, “Here’s the class of vehicles this one is competing with.”

Car

Porsche Panamera

"but we'll start off with the Porsche Panamera. This car starts at 99,000 euros, and that's for the hybrid. Higher if you want the full battery electric vehicle."

This is Porsche’s big sporty luxury sedan. They’re using it as an example of a very expensive car in the same general price range.

Term

battery electric vehicle

"This car starts at 99,000 euros, and that's for the hybrid. Higher if you want the full battery electric vehicle. The Porsche Taycan starts at 103,000 euros right around there."

This means a car that runs only on electricity and charges from a plug. There’s no gas engine in it.

Car

Porsche Taycan

"The Porsche Taycan starts at 103,000 euros right around there. The Audi RS e-tron, a bit more affordable at 90,000 euros, where it starts the Mercedes EQS, which is probably more comparable to this car, at 94,000 euros."

This is Porsche’s all-electric performance car. They’re comparing its price to other expensive electric luxury cars.

Car

Audi Rs

"The Porsche Taycan starts at 103,000 euros right around there. The Audi RS e-tron, a bit more affordable at 90,000 euros, where it starts the Mercedes EQS, which is probably more comparable to this car, at 94,000 euros."

This is Audi’s sporty electric car. They’re using it to compare prices with other expensive EVs.

Car

Mercedes EQS

"where it starts the Mercedes EQS, which is probably more comparable to this car, at 94,000 euros. The Lucid Air Grand Touring is sitting at 120,000 euros."

This is Mercedes-Benz’s big luxury electric sedan. It’s being compared to other expensive EVs to show where the price lands.

Term

apples to apples

"If we're comparing apples to apples, they're all probably pretty close to this. Not to say that they are, like, dead on."

It means comparing things fairly, like comparing similar cars instead of totally different ones. They’re saying these vehicles are in the same general category.

Concept

EU

"This is, BYD sees an opportunity at this premium brand, at this premium range in the EU, and they're going to price their car accordingly. Why wouldn't you?"

EU means Europe as a big market area with shared rules. They’re talking about how much the car costs in Europe.

Term

gouging

"You want to make as much money as you can as a company while not gouging people? And maybe they are gouging people, but I don't think they are."

This means charging way too much money on purpose. They’re arguing about whether the car is overpriced.

Car

BYD Z9

"they probably have good data to show that people will pay $115,000 for the Z9, but while they're trying to work on this, the market will tell them,"

This is the car they’re talking about. It’s a BYD model, and the hosts are debating whether people would really pay that much for it.

Concept

market will tell them

"but while they're trying to work on this, the market will tell them, is this a good price or do we need to lower the price? And they will do that,"

It means customers decide if the price is right by whether they buy it. If people don’t want it at that price, the company has to change the price.

Term

features

"based on the features that it has, and it has some cool features, they're also kind of niche, like the pivot thing is really neat,"

These are the special things the car can do or comes with. The hosts are deciding whether those extras make the car worth the money.

Concept

price premium

"like the pivot thing is really neat, but is it worth another $15,000 to be able to pivot? No, I don't think so. So my general feeling is that this car should start"

It’s the extra money added on top because of a special feature or nicer version. Here they’re asking if one gimmick is really worth that much more.

Term

premium market

"So they are coming in at the lower end of that premium market when you compare prices, range, abilities, features, that kind of thing."

This means the nicer, more expensive part of the car market. It’s where brands compete on image, features, and status, not just basic transportation.

Brand

Ford

"You know what their reputation is and you can afford to do that. If you can afford a Ford 115, you could probably afford a Ford 130."

Ford is a big car company from the U.S. The speaker is saying that if someone can afford one Ford, they might be able to afford a more expensive Ford too.

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