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Muscle Car Mods, AI Speed Cameras & Street Takeovers
Muscle Car Mods, AI Speed Cameras & Street Takeovers
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About this episode
Car-show talk kicks things off, with the hosts noticing a shift in what people are leaning hard into and spotlighting a lowrider they saw with a blower, metal-etched engine parts, and swirl art. The conversation then pivots to AI speed cameras and how enforcement could evolve—plus debates about court admissibility, fairness, and third-party control. Later, they tackle street takeovers, including how events can escalate, police raids, and why purpose-built venues may not stop illegal street driving.
Cars:
Ford Mustang
The whole crew is back in the studio today; We are talking about some throwback builds in the custom car scene, from crazy motor swaps in classic Datsuns to lowrider inspired muscle car builds. The guys also get into a heated debate about AI speed cameras, those frustrating third party toll bills, and the recent news about street takeovers featuring flamethrowers. You wont want to miss this on Let's Talk Cars Radio!
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lowriders
"I will say that's that's what curiates me to like lowriders, because you know typical low writers, everything is customed, right, it has some type of touch tail right, And I think that's a cool touch on just you know those type of vehicles."
Lowriders are cars that are intentionally set very low and then heavily customized. They’re often more about style and craftsmanship than just going fast.
Lowriders are cars built around a very low ride height and highly customized styling. The customization often includes detailed bodywork and interior/exterior “show” touches, which is why the hosts connect them to custom design work.
Term
blower
"Do you remember the lowrider we saw that had the blower in it, that had every single engine part metal etched."
A “blower” is basically a power-adding device that helps the engine breathe better. It pushes extra air into the engine so it can make more power.
A “blower” is a supercharger—an engine device that forces extra air into the engine to make more power. In the context of a lowrider build, it’s a standout modification because it’s visible and changes how the car makes boost.
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metal etched
"Do you remember the lowrider we saw that had the blower in it, that had every single engine part metal etched."
“Metal etched” means the metal parts are decorated with engraved designs. It’s a customization detail meant to look impressive up close.
“Metal etched” refers to decorative surface engraving/etching on metal parts. In car customization, it’s used to add show-quality detail—often turning functional components into display pieces.
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swirl designs
"Yeah? And they had all the designs, all the swirl designs and like hidden icons in the swirls and."
“Swirl designs” are decorative curved patterns. They’re used to make the car look more artistic and custom.
“Swirl designs” are decorative patterns commonly used in custom paintwork and metalwork. The hosts describe them as part of the lowrider’s visual theme, including hidden icons within the artwork.
Car
Ford Mustang
".... Speaker 5: I know it's not a must kind of local Mustang. Speaker 4: I mean I kind of agree, but I think w..."
The Ford Mustang is a sporty car made by Ford, usually as a coupe or convertible. People talk about it a lot because it’s designed for driving enjoyment and has been around for many years. In a conversation, “Mustang” can also mean a specific example of one that someone is considering or comparing.
The Ford Mustang is a classic American sports coupe/convertible known for its performance-focused design and long-running popularity. It often comes up in podcasts because it represents a major segment of enthusiast cars and has had many different generations and powertrains over the years. Even when someone says it’s “not a must” kind of local Mustang, the discussion is usually about whether that particular Mustang is the right fit or example for the topic at hand.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Let's Talk Cars Radio. You're automotive specialist. Let's
Talk Cars Radio is sponsored in part by NAPA, Carcare Centers, BDG Auto Group, by Liberty Transmissions in Virginia Beach, and by Bob Barnum and the Perfect House Team. Here's the host,
So Let's Talk Cars Radio. Dave Polage.
Speaker 2: Happy Saturday, America. You listen Let's Talk Cars Radio on
WKQA Freedom Radio. I'm your host, Big Davy P. And
finally got the gang back together.
Speaker 3: That's right. The boys are back from being on assignment
taking care of other things. So we're all the studios.
So kim Chaos n b B. Yeah, what's going on.
Speaker 4: Guys, Nothing much living life.
Speaker 2: A great day for a week for a car show.
It is a good day for a car show. We
have been busy. I mean, there's been a lot of
car shows. If you guys have not been following the law,
and make sure you guys jump on all the different platforms are on and you'll see.
Speaker 3: We've been at car show after car show after car shows.
Speaker 2: Seen a lot of cool cars, though a lot of different ending stuff that's going on. If you guys didn't
like I said, if you didn't get a chance to check it out. You'll see that I've been to a
bunch of different types of car shows the way. There's
something for all of you guys to take a look when we post up pictures. And I'm seeing a shift
again we talked about only like six months ago, and stuff people are really leaning hard into. Like if I
said older cars, you guys are like, that's what car scene is. I'm talking about like the odd older cars
and I'm not saying they're not cool, but like I could two ten like dots in or something like that and then doing like you know, just a crazy motor mod in it and and things. I mean like I'm
seeing a lot of that stuff starting to pop up.
Speaker 5: I'm starting to see on the photos a lot more people coming to the show, not the same same people, more newbies.
Speaker 3: Being that we were just talking about that.
Speaker 2: So in our area, I went to hit one of the local car shows here and there was a lot of people from outside the area that decided to.
Speaker 3: Come to that show, which was cool.
Speaker 2: I mean, like you I'm not saying like super far, but I think one guy drove in from like South Carolina and there was quite a few people from North Carolina drove in. I think one vehicle that I saw,
the guy said that he was in town out of and I don't know if he just found out about the.
Speaker 3: Car show, but why would you drive your car away there?
But he was from Ohio. I mean, so we're starting
to get a lot of that stuff starting to push.
Speaker 2: I know that you had the All Star Race up in what Dover and that tends to generate a lot of cars that come out this way and then they end up making a longer, like two week thing out of it and stopping at car shows and stuff.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of cool.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean the swing into older things. I
showed you the picture of it was like a seventy three BMW or something like that. The blue one I
showed you, Yeah, that was tugh and the guy was doing a bunch of custom stuff to it, and it was it was really cool. I I'm lean one of
the things I'm seeing and I'm seeing it on I haven't seen it in a lot of muscle cars yet.
A couple are detailed fire firewalls and wheel wells and stuff where they're doing like really trick stuff the inside and kind of liking it.
Speaker 3: And so like a custom design.
Speaker 4: I will say that's that's what curiates me to like lowriders, because you know typical low writers, everything is customed, right, it has some type of touch tail right, And I think that's a cool touch on just you know those type of vehicles.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you know I told you guys, I go down the rabbit hole all the time. Do you remember
the lowrider we saw that had the blower in it, that had every single engine part metal etched.
Speaker 3: Yes, kindness remember that one.
Speaker 5: Yeah? And they had all the designs, all the swirl
designs and like hidden icons in the swirls and.
Speaker 2: See I can find a picture and I let you post picture of it. But so I was like, I
think that's cool.
Speaker 3: I've never seen that done like that on on not things like that. One thing about low.
Speaker 2: Riders is is I love the fact that there's hidden I won't say graphics, but there's hitting stuff in the paint. Yeah, maybe,
or rather it's like lace and stuff, like they've done lace in the paint and sometimes really stuffy can barely tell it's even there into light catches.
Speaker 3: Right. That's one thing I like about the low rider communities.
They do a lot of that. Okay, there's a lot.
Speaker 4: Of pride in detail in the work. I will say, yeah,
there is.
Speaker 2: I think that there is room for that to go into the muscle car world slightly. I won't say once again.
I know we've talked about I have an idea. I'm
thinking about doing something on white noise on the inner wheel wells and maybe on the back firewall that I've never seen anybody try to kind of pull. I've seen
a lot of variations of it, but I've never seen anything like this, and I'm thinking about trying it. The
only thing about it is is I think I want to do it where it's reversible. So I think if
I do something to it, it'll have.
Speaker 3: To be that I could undo it pretty easily. But
I have I kind of have an idea.
Speaker 2: I can't say what camera's like, what is I can't.
Speaker 3: We were talking, so I already can't.
Speaker 2: Someone will steal my idea. I know I know that
they will. They will because I had an.
Speaker 3: Idea that I talked about it at a car show a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: And I can't say that the person was in the group when I was having the conversation, but I've now seen Maybe they just thought of my idea.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I know it was.
Speaker 2: It was at a local car show and I was having a conversation with a bunch of people I know, And now I've seen that done to a car, and I don't think anybody.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would have thought about that idea closetly out of the box.
Speaker 3: So no different than I.
Speaker 2: You know, I have many times stay guys about license plates idea I have for cars that we own, and sure enough, no sooner we talk about it on the show and I look to see if the license plate is taken and it's not, and then.
Speaker 3: I were You're just your neighbor. And I'm not going
to say expire.
Speaker 5: I know it's not a must kind of local Mustang.
Speaker 4: I mean I kind of agree, but I think with a license plate thing that, you know, it's a little bit more of sometimes a coincidence because there's only so many likes out there.
Speaker 3: One favor, not the Mustang one. Yeah, not as fam one.
Speaker 5: That one was so unique that we didn't you remember, we didn't even put it on video games because we didn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean it's just so there's only so many combinations it.
Speaker 5: I knew we should have reserved, and I kept telling you too that we needed to reserve that plate, And now it's on an five mustag.
Speaker 3: It was available for like ten years, guys.
Speaker 2: That's how you how as far as I'm concerned, how unique it was, what I came up with it. For
ten years, I checked and that plate was always available.
And then it was like we why don't you just get it? Well because the car wasn't done and I
didn't want to and once you got a plate and you gotta pay the fees, I want to do all the pain. And I got all that kind of stuff
on the car. You know here in Virginia you gotta
pay you know, sales tag in.
Speaker 3: The cars were we could have reserved it. And I
don't know how long can you I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe I think it's a year, reserve it three years now.
Speaker 3: But so I always hate talking about certain things.
Speaker 2: Like years ago, I gave up an idea of something I thought it would be cool to do on a car, and I said, kind of almost like sticker bombing a bunch of stuff. And maybe I'm thinking of somebody probably
just came up that idea, but it was the what I wanted to do it with. I hadn't seen done,
and I talked about it, and then I saw that done, and I was just like, did that somebody talk about that they get around somebody side to do that, or somebody just creatively come up with that on their own.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 2: But once again, it is in a group of car people that I would see regularly, and then it was not on the car on somebody I directly knew, But everybody knows everybody in the car community. So I always
I hate putting things out there because they're they're I think, really good ideas sometimes and I'm like, ah, man, somebody executed, all right.
Speaker 3: And then to be.
Speaker 4: Fair though, I think if you're gonna take ten to twenty years the execute on an idea, they probably should just be passed on, don't you think to a certain agree like life, hold a good idea if you never know when you're gonna.
Speaker 3: Get around to it.
Speaker 5: I will agree because they literally just looked on my phone because I know, like I have a bad thing.
I'll take photos of license plates and send it to you.
I've taken one hundred and eight photos of license plates, and my favorite one is probably.
Speaker 3: Mine, but.
Speaker 5: It's like the second favorite one is probably wait for it.
It was on the mini van in the room and it was weight W eight and then for it.
Speaker 3: You know, we had a lot of the time. Remember
we used to have people submit license plates to us on the show, like years and years and years ago bumper bullys or we did what we did.
Speaker 2: We used to cover it in bumper bullys. Then, yeah,
we did a good kind of mixture. We hadn't done
that in a while. My people used to send us
license plates all the time. We'd find different plates and
stuff and the means that. And then we also use
bumper bullys, which was people send us a bumper stickers and all the different sayings and stuff that were funny.
Speaker 3: And it's been years and there was a.
Speaker 4: Lot of things that he does bumper stickers anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody really. I told you, I've never been big
on doing bumper stickers on a car. I just I
don't like it.
Speaker 2: I like I said, I have I think two small stickers on my back window on my truck. One of
them definitely needs to come off because it's it's now starting to fade. I need to put something else, But
I think I'm just gonna put American flag where that sticker is at and just be done with it.
Speaker 3: Just it helps me.
Speaker 2: Everybody's like, why do you do? I had a conversation,
why do you put sumper stickers on your vehicle? I'm like,
why don't put bumper stickers in my vehicle? But I
definitely do put it in the window. And a lot
of times it's not for me, believe it or not, it's for me. Nope, it's for my wife because you'll
borrow my vehicle and she can't find my truck because it's not her daily vehicle and she's has many times goes.
While I was in a parking lot and it was like two trucks like yours, I'm like, well, first of all, they didn't have the wheels on it. Like I was
about to say that, but that was before I had the wheels on it. I was like, they didn't have
the wheels. Now definitely, I was like, but so I
always had something identifiable on the back, Like all you gotta do is look at the back window.
Speaker 3: You know, if it's got that, then it's our truck.
Speaker 5: As we're talking about license plates, I'm like, I always know it's you by your last four numbers of your license plate.
Speaker 3: Fifty three fifty three and Don's fifty three fifty two. Yeah, yeah,
we have.
Speaker 2: When I went and got new license plates for the vehicle, I got concession license plates. They're only one number off
from each other, so that we for both our cars, you know, it's ours. And it's funny because not that
down doesn't have a you know, a very identifiable car.
But I've now noticed that we've had it for a little while. There's I've seen maybe two in the area,
but I've happened to see them in a parking lot that we go to quite often, you know, so ill I'll roll through the parking lot and I'm like, oh, it's my wife's car.
Speaker 3: Nope, not yours, Noe.
Speaker 2: I look at but it's it's exact, say, it's exact color, interior color and everything.
Speaker 3: You guys are like, well, I'm sure there's a bunch of them.
Speaker 2: Now ours is white with blood red interiors, so you don't see a whole lot of those runnerund You'll.
Speaker 3: Past each other and you're like, what's that her life three sixty.
Speaker 5: That was her.
Speaker 2: I just had a conversation. Funny, I like said, I'm
not sponsored by Life three sixty. If you guys don't
know the app, go look at it for yourself. But
we've talked about on this show a bunch over the years.
And I got into a conversation with a parent who was having a new driver and they were, oh, well, you know, I feel really ill, you know, uncomfortable and out there new driver and something like that, and I just.
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, I should be like a paid advertising for him, because I was like, have you looked a Life three sixty? You're like, no, what's that?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 3: I pulled right up on my phone, like, look, my kids are grown, but we still have it. Everybody still on.
I'm like, oh, you know, here's my one son, he's at work. Here's my other son, he's at work.
Speaker 2: I'm like, sends me turn your location back on. Well
he sent me a message that you're like, I think it does it change you? Two or three times? And
when it doesn't find you?
Speaker 3: It wasn't said to always it is so, but we use it quite a bit.
Speaker 2: I think it's great if you I've told you guys before if you guys have a a driver that's uh new driver that's in your family and stuff like that, you really want to keep tabs on what's going on.
If you pay for the premium package, it gives you tons of stuff. It'll let you know if they're speeding,
and it'll let you know everything, all the things that they don't want you to know. But I think it's
a great advice.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question on them.
Speaker 5: Would you pay and that the inter answer this too, would you pay for a box if the city was to give you a box and you could put it in your car and it tracks your speed, So anytime you go to court, there's an actual device that you can use to go.
Speaker 3: I was not speeding for you listen to telephone calls this week? No, I wasn't.
Speaker 5: But I just I'm like thinking about it because like I have three apps on my phone that tracks my speed, but none of them tracks it like step by step by step.
Speaker 3: No, No, he's a terrible idea.
Speaker 4: Why the terrible idea because the moment, all right, So it's great for when you want to use it, But then let me put you on the other side so they can use an ansign. They want no, why not
the system? Why why agree there's system you can use
it as an evidence. Why can't they use it as
evidence against you?
Speaker 3: Well, you guys know, so we've talked about the show many time.
Speaker 2: You guys know, I got a ticket. It's the same
conversation because I had I do heavy box. It does record,
and they won't let you use it in court. So
I would be I follow, I follow. I go not
all the time, but I go probably about every three or four months to see if case laws changed on that.
If you guys don't know how to go do that, you can get online and you can look to see if there's any new things that come out where they've successfully beat this case. Because right this, like I said,
right the second, there's nothing that protects you in self drive, and there is now there wasn't before.
Speaker 3: There is a long list if you go look up.
Speaker 2: Now why they say that they won't let you use that as evidence because it's being the way that they say it's being generated and stuff like that, But uh, there is because it's it's not live, it's point by point, right, so it's every because it's use the internet signal and all that kind of stuff point from point it's not you could have sped from this point to that point and that's when he caught you. But my contention to
that is not when you have a camera system that's in the car that's recording all the time, which displays a speed in the corner of the camera system.
Speaker 3: There's no way. There's no way.
Speaker 2: And so then then they combat that with well those you could alter that before you bring it into court.
I'm like some so we're always guilty into.
Speaker 5: A proven systems, but you're really guilty, Like what's actually coming live from the e c U. Like we know
like some insurance companies, Well, I think it's.
Speaker 3: Progressive or flow. They're little ship plugged in.
Speaker 4: It works the same way it does. Yeah, it's it's
a it's a prediction. It's a it's not it's not
a relative. It's just you know, we think that you're
maintaining this speed at this Knott I was going to say, was I think I don't agree with both of you at all the fact that I'm personally just you know, just catch me if I'm doing it if not, I think I think the best way to solve the change.
I think the best way to solve it is they should have to prove that you were speeding. If you
hit me on the speed on the speed monitor, there should be a print out that you can show show because the problem is that you can test that, oh I wasn't speeding, but then they take just the word there is no real evidence of if you were or weren't.
I don't think that there should be a system that we have to install or get behind. Therefore, you know,
everybody can share it. They should just have to prove
their case. So I know where you yeah, I know,
Like my god, so much.
Speaker 3: To say on this Hold tight, guys, let me take a quick partial break. I don't know how we folded
into this subject.
Speaker 2: We did. It always needs to come up on the show.
So I will be right back and we'll get jumped back into it.
Speaker 3: Right back.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Let's Talk Cars Radio. You're automotive specialists.
Now back to your host, Dave palatch.
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back. So I knew camera was chomping
on the bit because every time this conversation comes up, it's it's it's one of his I say, one of his favorite ones. It's one of my probably least favorite,
only because it didn't work out to my advance. All right,
So go ahead tell me what it was.
Speaker 5: So, like I was just telling you guys, like on break, so like I was reading this article where and we've and you were even just saying like you've seen it start happening, like so basically, you know, like where they are talking about speed cameras and how they want to create speed cameras and put them into places to see if we're speeding.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to spend the money on all the news.
Speaker 5: They don't exactly, they don't want to build all this new equipment, So they're going to take our existing infrastructures traffic cameras and put like an AI system or an artificial intelligence system into.
Speaker 1: It to.
Speaker 5: Be able to kind of handle traffic better and We've already started seeing a little bit of that here in our own hometown where and I was just telling them and it was like, oh, yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 3: Next time you go through a like not a red light, but next time you go through you go through a red light. Next time you're burning through a red light,
See it.
Speaker 5: Turns yellow before you reach the bar. Yes, you're supposed
to stop, but a lot of people will go through it.
The last car that goes through it, right when it passes that stop bar is when the light would turn red, even if you're by yourself, When you're by yourself and you see the.
Speaker 3: Light turn yellow. Technology what they're talking about.
Speaker 5: But what the article was talking about was now that they've been able to prove that this technology can work and it's helping out with better traffic flows, why can't we just take the speed camera idea and put it into this And if you're an habitual speeder, it's just going to send you a like a letter to your house saying you've you've been seeing that speeding on this road constantly weeks ago.
Speaker 4: Point to point security cameras.
Speaker 5: You're just gonna also talked about like it's going to start sharing that it was information with UH local enforcement and it would now start to.
Speaker 3: Say where to set officers. What did you see because
the lights and stuff.
Speaker 2: Did you see the the article that for twenty twenty seven they want to start implementing cars with already with the speed I told you that stuff in it, and I said, I knew that was coming.
Speaker 4: You know what you're talking about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, you didn't really say that approved limit your speed through city zones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they like, I don't know exactly how far they're going to expand, but they wanted to already be manipulated into cars by twenty twenty seven, and of course and then build upon it from there.
Speaker 5: So we were talking about that a couple months ago where New York wanted to be the test subject where well New York had entered their city boundaries, they were already head remember they had they had disponed it for a little while.
Speaker 3: They well they had it because they were charging a fee. Member.
Speaker 2: They were if you go with inside the geo fence, there's a fee for being inside to be able to drive with inside that way technology.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that was if you were in the if you were actually driving in the city. One of those
little centers it is that got what taken down in the first week.
Speaker 4: I think the weird thing is that all this new technology and you know, ways to get you guess what they are there. But my frustration a little bit with
that is that it's not city owned and I have.
Speaker 3: A real problem with that. Camera ran into that.
Speaker 9: Him and I have had this conversation with the tolls being you know, sold off to the third party, you know, to another company, you know, like I'm cool with you know, the city trying to make you know money, Maryland or something like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my bill came from here first, then went to Maryland, went to another third party company.
Speaker 3: It wasn't from here though it was. Maryland was the
main company even though it was here. I won't name
the company, but we all know who it is.
Speaker 5: They're not owned in the state of Virginia or like Virginia Beach or Norfolk or Port Smith.
Speaker 3: They're in a whole nother city. It's just becoming then
also makes me up. Sorry, go ahead, well, you know
it makes it.
Speaker 4: You know, it's a weird phenomenon for the fact that, like I said, I'm all about you know, city trying to you know, bring in more tax money to you know, help you know, anderstructure, and I agree with that, but at the same time, I don't like it when they're pawning all those stuff off to other companies. The speed cameras,
you know, the tolls, some some of the highways now you know, are independent. Like, I don't know, it's just
weird that we're selling everything that was already owned. We
could easily be making the money right but there but they're obviously profitable companies, you know, so like profit right, it's for profit, not for make me a better drug.
The city isn't profiting off of that, So I don't I have a little inch with that for the fact that there's well I bet you, I bet you there is, but I bet you it's not. But they're still making
profits other than the day. Why didn't just you know,
the cities implement those if they wanted it so bad to say, you know, just offsetting it, you know, to they want to deal with it.
Speaker 5: That's kind of like my biggest problem with it is too is like I feel like there is a goal where it's like this year, we're gonna make forty billion dollars and then anything after that because at the end of the year, they're a business. They have to reconcile
their books just like any other business. If you owe
money to that company, that told company.
Speaker 3: And this is what makes me.
Speaker 5: Really irritated about it, is that if you thousands of dollars, they'll just go, it's fine.
Speaker 3: It's fine, We're just gonna write that off. You don't
own it anymore.
Speaker 5: We got a special grant to pay that off for you.
That these people just paid all these taxes the people that didn't or during COVID was during COVID, That's what it was. Personally happened to my account where they've just
they seven hundred dollars disappeared, no rhyme or reason, and they're like, oh, we just figured that you didn't owe that anymore.
Speaker 3: We got a grant for it, and I'm like, yours was.
Speaker 2: So Cameron Camra would fight his because he had the device.
Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. Sometimes it works, and
I didn't. They kept on setting like new device, he's
paying something. They're sending a new device, and then a
bill shows up. It's like, wait a minute, I got
the new device. It's your equipment. It can't be mine.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, if I'm not the only customer going through this, I'm like, you would charge my easy Pass in the beginning of the day and then send me a bill saying that it didn't.
Speaker 3: Get charged for the same time.
Speaker 5: How are you well, sir, it's either if it if it scanned your pass, and if it then it took a photo of your license plate?
Speaker 3: Are you sure your pass is visibly in the mirror?
Speaker 4: So that's my problem with it too, right, is that you know they know the issues that they have, but it's still the customer's problem to figure it out. And
you know, if you don't pay it, well, then you know, sorry, you just can't drive on the streets that you used own.
Speaker 3: Well, my problem.
Speaker 4: You say you used to have free pass passage, but tendally it's not owned by your city anymore. It's owned
by us, and we say you can't travel because you haven't paid us.
Speaker 5: And it's two different companies, like I was saying, it's the company from Maryland that was sending you the bill if you don't have an easy Pass, and then you also have easy Pass, So easy Pass is the first company that takes the tollers. If you have the money
on the thing, and then if you don't, then they send it off to a third party company or brokerage or whoever owns that road to then send you the bill.
That's two companies already that's handling it to tell you, and then they can't talk to each other.
Speaker 3: I can tell you how to fix this, and it's gonna get rid of the tolls supposed to be there. Right.
Speaker 4: You build up highway over their highway and you make it free.
Speaker 3: Now, So you guys are you guys are younger highway.
You guys are the guys you'm highway.
Speaker 2: But you guys, so obviously you know you've done I can tell by the way you talked about you've done enough research where you know that tools are only supposed to exist till the roads paid for and then the toll is supposed to go away. So you guys know that, okay, yes,
the and they never do so because you guys don't remember city stickers.
Speaker 3: You guys grew up in the city sticker errors we did.
Speaker 2: In a lot of different cities you lived in, you had a city sticker and you used to have to pay money to have the city sticker on your car or the police could pull you over for not having a city sticker.
Speaker 3: And that was a ticket. Oh wait, is that.
Speaker 5: When we when we were growing up, you guys had two stickers and you were happy when the second sticker came off, and they only started they did.
Speaker 3: So the thing about it was is, well, it's crazy when you remember you couldn't get a state inspection.
Speaker 2: You couldn't get a state inspection sticker unless you had your city sticker, or and you couldn't get like tags, like there.
Speaker 3: Was all kinds of that. I can't remember all that.
I know I probably have some of the pieces mixed up.
Speaker 4: But put your neighbor across the creek inspection.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there was all this stuff.
Speaker 2: So what they ended up doing was they ended up incorporating the city because it was all about fees, you know what, the incorporating that fee into.
Speaker 3: The license plates. So here is my solution for it.
Get rid of the tolls and just add a toll fee.
If you own a car, my tolls pre paid for the year.
Speaker 2: It's x amount, it's thirty five dollars for the or whatever it is, and then I'm just for your past toll.
Speaker 3: For everybody to lose money.
Speaker 4: Though they charged seven dollars for you to go through it.
Speaker 3: Oh did you guys don't know if you guys see it's a whole year.
Speaker 4: Now, did you guys not see the I don't do I don't do tolls. I put my map purposely. Do
not ever put me through souls. Dad did that to
me once, and I yelled at him and I was like, don't you ever do that to me again?
Speaker 3: What do you mean he did that to me once because he knows get a text he's just talking about recently.
Speaker 5: He read it the text and it goes, your easy pass account is low, your easy Past you now owe a bill you are doing. I'm like, I hadn't go
through an easy pass, what is go? I have eighty
one dollars on my easy pass account. I signed in,
I accidentally used this well, I used this truck, added him to my account, never removed him ever. For the
last year, since he's been going through easy passes, they've been charging my account.
Speaker 3: Just a fe I texted my are you going to do easy passes? I just went through one? Now, I'm
like you did.
Speaker 4: We were coming back from from the car show and he went to the eastb I didn't know that's where he was taking it because I usually don't do tolls, and he was like, well, I was wondering where you went.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: So when we were coming back, and you have to go through, and that's one of the ones I was going to talk about, you can there's there's a way you can buy pass. And it's not like some tolls.
People bypass because they don't want to get caught on things.
This isn't one of those ones. Does he either just
go this way or you don't. And I didn't think
about it. I was just coming through and I'm like,
I'm pulling the trailer. I just wanted to get back
to the house because we just come from the car showed stuff and I was like, okay, you went back, So I went and I didn't take I brought him when we when we left to go North Carolina because of where we live at, I came out of the back roads into North Carolina through the back roads because where my house is positioned at UH, it makes sense to go that way. Coming back, it doesn't make sense
to go that way because it's just a straight shot right through the toll and you get off and off ramp and then you just hook a right and come right and down into my name.
Speaker 3: So, like I said, could I win the back roads again?
Speaker 8: Sure?
Speaker 2: The reason why I never told you the reason why I didn't go to the back roads was is because the trailer was so wide coming through some of the small little hollows and roads and.
Speaker 3: Stuff that we have that there's a going that way, and I like do going.
Speaker 2: I like going that way if I'm just driving, because it is faster to a certain degree, but pulling the trailer, it wasn't a faster route because I'd go around the corner and I had to slow down way into the corner because people tend to ride the line the center of the road, and the trailer almost got clipped when we were heading out, and I was just like, I'm not gonna.
Speaker 3: Deal with that.
Speaker 4: No, it makes sense. I kind of knew how you
did it that way.
Speaker 3: I know I did it. Yeah, I saw.
Speaker 2: I probably would have come back that way too, not that like I said it, I don't think it's all that much faster, but not when you're going sixty five and our back roads and stuff pulling a trailer.
Speaker 3: I was rolling like thirty five, and some players that were fifty, so it happens. Hey, guys, hold that thought.
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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, walking back. Yeah, we are all over the
map today talking about all kinds of things. But it's
okay because you know that's what we're here for. That's
why I'm man.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean after the commercial break, now you know why I'm mad. I mean I have a reason. Okay,
did you I was gonna say, did you guys see one of the tolls here. They talked about.
Speaker 2: Charging ten dollars ten dollars to go through it because they know that people are going to use that toll because it takes you.
Speaker 3: It's it's the one it's the North Carolina to They're like, they want to charge like ten bucks.
Speaker 2: And they're like, well, people are going to use it because because they're going there to go vacation stuff like that.
I'm like, okay, but what about all the people who live there and are driving back and forth work and it's been going on forever and they be like, well, maybe you need to find a job in North Caroline.
That that has been going on for That was the selling point for people to buy there. There's the who point,
building the bridge, it was all of it.
Speaker 3: So ten dollars, I'm like, and just say you're greed.
Speaker 4: You just tell me you're greedy. Maybe maybe I sit
a well with it. So just say I'm a greedy
and I I love money, and there's nothing you can do to stop me. He just hit on a point here.
Speaker 3: He just hit on a point that I was just about to mention too. Of where he's where.
Speaker 5: They say, you just said something about moved to North Carolina.
Speaker 4: You know, if you don't like it, you can go somewhere else. It's basically they're saying anything you don't like
my samo.
Speaker 5: This is what really bothers me is if you live Port Smith and you live in Norfolk, then you can get free tolls if you're eligible.
Speaker 3: Right, but you're talking about that program. But if you
live you got to make a searching amount of money, right because you're trying to work and make money.
Speaker 1: Get it.
Speaker 5: If you live in Virginia Beach for everybody, and that makes it Virginia Beach, it's only fifty off of your toll because.
Speaker 3: That just doesn't make sense of when most people Virginia.
Speaker 5: Beach is a research I'm curious how they came Norfolk or Virginia Beach is a military how like home? And
then you have Norfolk and Port Smith naval yards and everything.
How do you expect Virginia the main home.
Speaker 4: They don't really care you need to find something else.
They've already told you. How would they think about it?
And so if you don't like what they have put in place and stuff they could carry less if you come back to their city.
Speaker 3: Well, and I have a big problem with example goes with it, but it doesn't. It had not told.
Speaker 2: So we took a little time Don and I did.
We went on roae trip, you guys know. So we
went and spent a day hanging out together. And I
told you guys, we'd like to kind of like head far out and then work our way back through the day and stuff. And I'm always looking for gasoline memorabilia
stuff and to decorate the garage and so something we enjoy doing. So I'm going down the highway and I'm
on the highway that I have driven a bunch of different times. By the way, I've never been on that
Highway where isn't under construction? Yeah, I know it's anyways
on construction. It's always under constructions. I've never been on
one when he's talking about like I said, I've never been on it, or it's not under construction. And I'm
not saying what it which one is. I'm just not
trying to be that person. But it's always I had
an apartment in nineteen ninety four. Okay, that's going back
some time. It was under construction back then. They've never
finished construction. And let me tell you, so when I
went and looked at this apartment, I went I think I told you guys before I went and looked at it on the weekend.
Speaker 3: It was a twenty eight minute drive to the apartment.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, that's not horrible for somebody who was already living in like a downtown here.
Speaker 3: I was living in Chicagoland area and stuff.
Speaker 2: It's I want to walk traffic all that time, so twenty eight minutes was nothing.
Speaker 3: I was like, we'll talk, twenty eight minutes.
Speaker 2: That is great. They were just developing the area out there,
so rent was really cheap. I think I'll rant if
I remember correctly, and down where I were talking about.
It was like four to twenty five a month.
Speaker 3: I mean it was cheap. Okay, this is where the
apartment complex too. By the way, brand new. He learned
a hard lesson with this one. I remember this one.
So I'm all.
Speaker 2: Proud I get the apartment. Now, keep in mind, I've
only been to the apartment every time. I've only been
to it. I've only been to it during the weekend,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like, we got some furniture. We moved it in during the.
Speaker 2: Weekend, and I'm military. I'm like, okay, so this is
going to be our I go in the apartment, setting things up and stuff. It's the first day to go
to work on this stretch of road that's always been underneath the construction.
Speaker 3: I get in the car.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think, okay, I'm leave a little early because I just don't you know, I know, it's probably be a little bit of traffic and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: No, three and a half hour drive.
Speaker 2: Which took me twenty eight minutes during the weekend because of the road construction. Everybody trying to go into work
in the morning, and we're like talking like five thirty in the morning. At five third in the morning, and
I didn't need to be well. I think Mustard that
time was like seven o'clock. Okay, so were you late
first day?
Speaker 3: Oh? I was late.
Speaker 2: I might as well just not even gone to work that day, you know what I mean, Like anybody's military knows, that's not enough.
Speaker 3: They count them as missing, right, Yeah, I was ill for a little bit.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I had so because I missed Mustard, and so it didn't happen. I got to the point where I was
only going to our apartment on the weekend. I had
this apartment I'm paying for, and I'm only going on the weekend because I can't get that's bad, same ride home.
Speaker 3: So we used to back then.
Speaker 4: And did a lot of other people have the same problem.
Speaker 2: So what saved what was saving grace for me was I had a first class Peddy officer that worked with me, and then our our chief of one of the apartments too.
Speaker 3: That I had to work with quite a bit. Because
of what I did. They were always coming in late,
like because you just couldn't. It didn't It didn't matter
what time you left early. You still traffic even earlier
and you still would be stuck. I mean, you think
at like four thirty in the morning and still find yourself being late. The track was that bad. So as
we're going through that sexual.
Speaker 2: Road and it's under construction again this week, and I'm like I was down this and I said, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: I was like, because wasn't this just under construction? We
come through here like two months ago. She was yep.
Speaker 2: And then they went down went through it like four months before that was under construction. And then I was like, okay,
but a year ago is under I was like, it's I've never been through here and it's not a small section road.
Speaker 3: It is a long.
Speaker 2: Highway and they've never I'm like, can they just finish it?
Do you guys don't remember because you guys were young.
There was a section road out here that was under construction for so long. They did like a bonus if
they could get it done before Christmas time. They got
paid like this bonus, and magically the road was done and it wasn't right. It turned into a pond. They
got all the leveling and stuff wrong and the highway turned into a pond. There was accidents, all kinds stuff.
Speaker 3: They had to go.
Speaker 2: They got their bonus, but then they had to come back and pay for them to come and tear it back out and redo it. That I don't remember what
year that happened, and i'd look it up, but I'm sure you'll find it, like in the newspaper something like that, and I remember that. I'm like, so there was that
section road, which is before you come to this whole other section road that I'm talking about, and I'm like, we just never get done. Now, I'm guys, I understand.
Speaker 4: The bad thing too, is like most of its tax payer money too, so it's like you just wasted it is money.
Speaker 2: So there's a section road out here. We talked about
it a year ago. You know, they read did some
roads out here in the country by us. But there's
one section I've been waiting for him to do. And
I talked to the city guy like a year and a half ago two, I was like, are you all ever going to do that? It's like, oh, yeah, it's
it's on the list, so.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, but hadn't been done, so I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 4: I learned a little bit this week about how they determine what road and stuff. So they have a company
at their party company, and they come and they analyze that the sonar underneath the street and basically see, you know, how good the compaction is, and see there's any you know, bad faults underneath wise, and that would dictate depending on what letter grade they give, it will dictate if it needs to be replaced and at what point of the ladder that it gets put on. So, you know, I
was talking about how our roads this week are getting replaced, and some of them are not going to be replaced, which is the very confused me as well. A little
bit maybe above my pay.
Speaker 3: Grade, but way above grade. I'm sure he was.
Speaker 4: He was an informingist that he was doing another project around the city and they did the scan on the neighborhood and they replace every road but two Culta sacs.
He was like, both cult De Sacks were graded a B.
Why everything else around it was an E okay. So
it just kind of you know, it's.
Speaker 2: Weird when you like, well, I can tell you their port roade out there, you know, would you you drive down that a lot?
Speaker 3: Would you not agree it's time for that road? Is
your slimmers have done?
Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's keep fitting. They keep on patching
all the potholes in it. As soon as it rains,
the potholes pop up up. I don't know what it is,
but as soon as it rains, those patches they put in come loose and pop up, and they can turn into chunks every time it rains hard.
Speaker 3: So it was done when they first redid it. No,
they didn't redo that road. Yeah, yeah, you're talking about
I need the difference. I know I didn't either.
Speaker 4: I think the reason you fall in that problem sometimes is because the asphalt that was laid previously isn't the same as what they're laying.
Speaker 3: It's old too, it's very old asspholet. But like I said,
it goes all the way back. Now.
Speaker 2: You know the money is being spent into roads, right, and now they want to put money into camera like I said, the camera systems and all the different stuff.
Speaker 3: Like I know, I'm getting ready to get a ticket in the mail. I told you. I know I got
one the other night.
Speaker 2: But I think sometimes like the money's spent with the city rather be roads or camera systems and all that kind of stuff. I think it's misguided sometimes because I
just know it's it's a money generator or money spent with.
Speaker 3: A repairing road.
Speaker 2: They'rerying to figure out they're trying to do the money in the math, But I don't I don't think always the technology, rather it's replaced the road and the stuff they're doing is right, because I don't think we get it right putting cameras in. I don't think the technology
is how they decide they want to do technology to just start watching us and issue your tickets just so they can make more money.
Speaker 3: If you're gonna make more money, I need to have really great roads, Like I mean, like I should.
Speaker 2: Well if you're making money off me, granted, and they're like, well it was your bad driving like that got you that ticket. I'm not saying it wasn't, But sometimes conditions, right,
does that make sense? Like when I'm saying I'm trying
to explain it.
Speaker 1: Like with.
Speaker 2: You don't know what was going on behind me that you're not seeing on that camera and traffic and stuff like that, like like the fact that like people people are driving like idiots, stuff like that. I'm just trying
to get off this road and get out of this area whatever it may be, because but.
Speaker 3: I saw I know I'm gonna take it like I.
I know I was making a right hand turn.
Speaker 2: It was turning yellow, and I didn't come to complete stop at that turn, and I just went, I know what I did it, I'll do it again because I was clear, I was able to see clear, but I was also watching the car that wasn't driving in the manner it should be that was driving behind me, and I wasn't gonna try it. I knew if I had
hit the brakes and stopped for that, I was gonna get re rended. They didn't account for that. So, like
I said, I'm like, and like I said, I know, those tickets don't count against points and license all that can no, but.
Speaker 3: That's what it's still tickets.
Speaker 4: That just makes the point even more mute for the fact that you know, right it's not points, but you're still charging me. So if it doesn't count against my license,
what's the point even charge.
Speaker 3: Me because it's the money generator?
Speaker 4: Right? We alrery no, but I need to tell me
that it is.
Speaker 3: I'll let you stew on that for a second. I
got to take another queer rush break you guys all it tal you. We'll finish this up. I'll be ride back.
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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, welcome back. All right, So I want to
change gears just a little bit and jumps set. I
think we hit it on the hammer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we hit the head you know where were we know were stand where it comes the roads and equipment and you want to still talk about it.
Speaker 3: Till you plea in the face. So I know everybody
had to see it has been nationwide. Everybody's been talking
about it in their areas all over.
Speaker 4: The news missed it because I mean action news.
Speaker 3: I've seen it on the news.
Speaker 2: Apparently street takeovers are the rage of conversation right this second.
And I have said for a million times I believe that we're being classified as people all together in one group, and that's not a good representation.
Speaker 3: Of car enthusiasts. It's just not. And then I got
into a conversation. You guys know how I do.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not keyboard warrior in it by any means. But
I was watching a conversation progress about street takeovers, and I stayed quiet, and I watched, and I watched and I watched, and then the team didn't until I didn't.
And how does Cameron know that you read my post?
I know you did because I get pinked. So here's
the problem for it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So people are like, well, you know, we don't have any place to do it, and that's the reason why I'm like, okay, first of all, but I understand.
Speaker 5: Where they're coming from with it is I started, right, we don't have a place to do what we want to do, but we do.
Speaker 3: We we were given a place. We misused it so
I spend done multiple times. So they used to use
out of interests.
Speaker 2: They used to you know, do things out there until they started using that area for training again.
Speaker 3: But that was used. Okay. They were people who I
know gave.
Speaker 2: Up parking lots of warehouse areas and they are letting people do things in the warehouse areas and then it got abused. The problem with it is is there's okay,
so there is places and you know, you go out to what Virginia Motor Speedway whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: If I don't, I think they still do. Like I
think they do a little bit of drifting out there, stuff like that. I know they do racing, but everybody's like,
well that's not type of race and we're trying to do. Okay, Well,
then you can go out to the drag strip or whatever.
You can drag, but that's not.
Speaker 9: What I do. It.
Speaker 3: Stay with you know, I want to do drifting and you know I don't.
Speaker 2: There's a name for it, but you know, I I just say I just want to do hood rat shit because that's just what it is. Well, m red button,
La red button me later, But that's just what it is.
I mean, I mean, when you're out there destroying the car that you're out there, you know, doing, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I'll never get that. I don't
care that it's your car.
Speaker 2: I truly believe when you're when I'm watching centers be explode off the car, there's no way it's your car.
I just assume that it's borrowed, it's stolen, it's whatever.
You're never convinced me different, prove me wrong, whatever. I'm
gonna get past all that. Okay, even if you gave
an area, it's been proven over and over and over again that it'll be misused and then the person who's let you do it's gonna say no, no more.
Speaker 3: It happens every single time.
Speaker 5: Kind of goes back to what you were saying though, of I think we're all kind of being classified as one group, you know, and we're not all one group.
We we all love cars, but sadly in our car community, there are gonna be people that are going to want.
Speaker 3: To do the wrong and.
Speaker 5: Cars and coffee that right, you know. But and again
we support our blue quite a bit. But I do
feel like when they look at us driving these nice vehicles, we are grouped together.
Speaker 2: It is with the street takeover people. When we're not
there for that, we're there for the cars. Example, North Carolina,
the Rotten Customs Show. How many cars do we see
that pulled out of the parking lot. The police were
right there and didn't mind that they were doing like a small door. Now they were, they were, and they
didn't say anything because it was I'm not gonna say that.
That's everybody's gonna say, Well, that's that's the same thing.
Where they do a small or a big one. It's
still anything could happen.
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: No, No, I believe something could happen. There's always that chance.
But they were given. They gave a bigger leeway than
I was surprised that they did.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now I go to cars and Coffee, and we know when we go to like a cars and coffee event, we should not.
Speaker 3: When we go to local car shows, even the car shows that we travel to, we see it everywhere. They
know they shouldn't, yet they do.
Speaker 2: Now it's one thing if you have police presence, and there they got the roadblocked while everybody's coming out of the park on stuff like that, and they're okay with you doing a little bit of what I would call exhibition, a speed or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3: That's one thing. But when it's not a controlled environment,
you're trying to merge into traffic, you're doing all that chryme of crazy stuff. That's when I have to put
the pen in and go, no, let's not do that.
Speaker 2: When I'm seeing street takeovers where you're taking over intersection the one that's just been all over the news that happened in our area, but it's been everywhere in the news, and where you're out there with a flamethrower and they set the road on fire and they're they're doing crazy stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean, they got that guy with video.
Speaker 2: He's in a mill row with some kind of makeshift flamethrower or just lighting the world on fire.
Speaker 3: Why cars are drifting around, I mean, just look.
Speaker 4: I mean it's it seems like a very cool video.
I haven't seen it, but.
Speaker 3: Like a very cool video.
Speaker 5: As a core person and as the person that was on the news report said, it definitely looked like it was a scene I had a fast and furious Tokyo Drift like it looked like it was from Tokyo Drift, like he was hired. But where is the fine line?
Is like, that's kind of like you broke the line.
Speaker 3: I don't even clear a very yeah, very clear line.
It's not fine.
Speaker 5: And it's like what I'm saying, like it should be on private space when you brought it into the city, that's when you crossed.
Speaker 3: I know they were in gam I know they were in gams. That's all where they were on.
Speaker 5: I recognized the rod. It's the same thing as like
once you took it out of the private parking lot and you brought it on.
Speaker 3: Here's here's a question I have. So I saw the video,
you saw it. You haven't seen the video yet, go
look it up.
Speaker 2: As much as I have had to go things down and get for events and stuff like that, that went on for.
Speaker 3: A really long without any I'm like, look how long this is? That video is long?
Speaker 5: There's nobody I was thinking exactly where it was located, where were you had it in this area? And you
didn't have any exactly and you didn't have one officer response couldn't get to it.
Speaker 3: And my thing is, how didn't you know that that was going on before, especially that area.
Speaker 5: Usually they're all on top of you before anything happens, So how didn't it they.
Speaker 2: The conversation that came up with this connected to because, like I said, I didn't aversation with people was like, well, if they would just provide these kids and they're not all kids. By the way, I'm not going to condone
street takeovers, but I also I'm not going to sit there and tell you that I have not been to car shows that have turned into that, and that I did not spectate and watch what was going on.
Speaker 3: I'm already there. It's not like I thought it was
going to turn into that, but I am there.
Speaker 2: What I didn't do was I didn't run video of it all and then promote it for our radio show to try to get views and clicks and views. You've
never seen me do that. Now I've shown you, guys
some really cool stuff we've gone to I've seen. I'll
show you where guys have done burnouts and stuff like that.
That's completely different. I cannot count how many states that
we've been to different car shows where I have watched a car event turn into especially a lot of the night car shows you go turn into a street takeover, which I didn't condone, and I sure enough did not film it to air on this show so I could make money and clicks and views off it.
Speaker 3: Like I just didn't do it because it's bad. Look
for all this as a hole. Here's the issue that
I have with that.
Speaker 2: And you guys heard me say it before. Let's say,
and this has happened to me already. I take an
expensive car that belongs to me, and I go to what should be just a regular show, regular car show at night. I like going to a lot of the
night car shows because it's just a different vibe as different crowd.
Speaker 9: I do like that.
Speaker 3: And then it turns into some craziness and then the cops raid the parking lot and now they're trying to toe people's cars and stuff like that because you're a expectator, which by the way, is happy. If you guys try
to tell me it's not, it is.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: And now you're taking one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars car with a wrecker who does not care about that car is trying to tow my car. I didn't
do anything wrong other than I was in the parking lot, and it turned into this, This is not what I came for. This is what it turned into. And now
you're classifying, throwing us all in. And the conversation I
got into with somebody's like, well, if you just provide an area for him, And then somebody went, okay, why does in the city block out area and make an area where that can happen, like like a park or some like that. They why should the taxpayer pay any
money for your enjoyment? And you heard when my responsibility?
I was like last time, I look, uh, the city maintains two hundred and seventy nine parks here in Virginia Beach alone and eighty seven in Norfolk alone.
Speaker 3: That's paid by taxpayer money.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing, right, it's the sick you taxpayer money shouldn't go for your hobby or your enjoyment.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, the same time hobbies going to the out.
Speaker 4: Of the park to your pathway, the same time bike and I want to make a bike.
Speaker 5: I almost replied to you for that as well, because my comment was going to be if you gave people the choice, I guarantee people would spend about five to ten dollars.
Speaker 3: They won't. They won't, they won't, they will not.
Speaker 2: Really, you can't get somebody to come pay five dollars to show up at at a cars and coffee. They
don't want to pay the five dollars to go to a cars and coffee. They'll just oh, it's five dollars.
They let me hold the line up. I need to
back out. I'm not paying five dollars. I don't understand it. Like, look, man, I.
Speaker 4: Think I don't get okay, I wan't say. I think
it's a little different to certain de gree I understand where you're coming from. I want to say, I think
it's because like the parks, like people pay five dollars to get in the park and the parks are always full.
I think I think when there's a purpose, like I gotta stand with like cardon coffee sometimes, like you know, to some people, they only say that time what I'm saying, because you know, we love doing that. I can see
that some people might think that it's just parking. You know,
they're just parking. Why should I pay the five dollars?
But it's going to you know, a good cause, and it's all range for you to have the parking.
Speaker 5: Correct instead of instead of paying five dollars to be at the event, just make them pay for the Virginia Beach parking, for the.
Speaker 3: For the parks plass go to any park. I get it,
I understand.
Speaker 4: I would say I agree with both of you to a certain agrea. I think that you know one that
regardless if you did give them a space, it would happen anyways. I also think that there you know, once
there are there's certain spaces allowed for certain things. Right,
a lot of them aren't used for that case scenario and will never be. There're more just park shows.
Speaker 2: Like I said, which is you know you if you built a space for people to meet with their cars and stuff like that, do I think it'd be used in the way that people are.
Speaker 3: It's not going to stop street takeovers. It's not going
to stop that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: If you built it and you had like a drift track or you had a burnout.
Speaker 2: Box and stuff like that in a purpose, I think they would get used a little bit, but it's still not going to stop the stuff that's having on the people are doing things in the street that people that don't care.
Speaker 3: But they're not the people that would go typically go use that facility.
Speaker 4: There's not going They're not the ones that would do it legally.
Speaker 9: But.
Speaker 3: They're not interested to do anything legally, to be honest, and we.
Speaker 4: Know that it's a it will work because we've seen it, have them before, because we use to have a burn box down here, we did.
Speaker 3: We need to go back to that at Virginia Beach.
Speaker 2: I still think if we can get that show open back up out of the ocean front, it would be a cool show.
Speaker 3: Uh tell me about you guys think? Can you agree
with me? Don't agree with me? What are your guys
take on street takeovers?
Speaker 2: There's I can't see anybody defending the position of this is a great idea.
Speaker 3: But if you can, you guys know how to hit me sending emails, send me a text. I'm curious. I
got to go ahead and get out of here. It
is the end of our shows. Saturday. Enjoy your guys.
A Saturday Sunday is right around the corner.
Speaker 2: Make sure you guys unplug, spend the time with your kids, fire up the grill, build a car, do something. Hide
those cell phones, make memories. They'll enjoy it later on
in life. You guys got anything Before we get out
of here.
Speaker 4: Have a good walk, enjoy your weekend.
Speaker 3: Alhi Guys' right here. We'll talk to you soon
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