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Porsche GT3SC, Mustang GTD Ring Domination & The Death of the Manual Transmission

Porsche GT3SC, Mustang GTD Ring Domination & The Death of the Manual Transmission

Full Throttle Talk Apr 22, 2026 65 min
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About this episode

Tim Harris pops in via “dispatches from Puerto Rico,” then the hosts trade shop stories: a Mitsubishi Bravo van gets back on all cylinders after spark-plug/wire work, and a Lotus Elise becomes a surprisingly fun freeway tool while a 996 build awaits a new gearbox. Big news follows with the signing of Callaway as an authorized performance center and a focus-group look at Slate’s low-cost direct-to-consumer EV truck. Porsche launches the manual-only 911 GT3 SC, sparking debate over the name, looks, and possible ADM markups. They also break down Ford’s Mustang GTD Nürburgring pace and the “quiet death” argument for manuals—ending with a spirited case for a future Corvette manual.

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Car

Chevrolet Corvette

"...hite new balances and gene shorts fully deployed. Corvette readiness is at an all-time high here. Blair's mi..."

The Corvette is a sports car made by Chevrolet. It’s designed to be fast and fun to drive, not just a regular car for commuting. People talk about it a lot because it’s built for performance.

Concept

buying cars side unseen

"I mentioned sometimes, or last week, the perils that come from buying cars side unseen, especially obscure Japanese vans."

“Side unseen” means you buy a car without seeing it in person first. That can be risky because you might miss problems that aren’t obvious in photos.

Part

spark plugs

"The good news is, well, so my mechanic came down and he pulled me out to the garage. He's like, dude, I've got bad news. One of these spark plugs, you've got oil all over this thing,"

Spark plugs help the engine ignite fuel. If there’s oil on the spark plugs, it usually means something is leaking, and the engine may start running poorly.

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cylinder four

"[158.4s] or you've got buildup on top of it. I'm worried about cylinder four. I thought, oh, [163.6s] crap, where do you get a new engine for a Mitsubishi Bravo? So anyways, fortunately,"

An engine has multiple cylinders, and “cylinder four” is just one of them. If that cylinder isn’t firing correctly, the car can feel rough or lose power, so mechanics try to figure out what’s wrong with that specific cylinder.

Car

Mitsubishi Bravo

"[158.4s] or you've got buildup on top of it. I'm worried about cylinder four. I thought, oh, [163.6s] crap, where do you get a new engine for a Mitsubishi Bravo? So anyways, fortunately,"

They’re talking about a Mitsubishi van called the Bravo. They thought they might need a whole new engine, which is scary because it can be hard to find replacement parts for some older or less common cars.

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wires

"[172.7s] so I was a little panicked. He does the spark plugs. He does the wires. And I got lucky and that [180.4s] actually solved the problem, at least for the time being. And the only way, I mean,"

They’re talking about the ignition wires that send electricity to the spark plugs. If those wires are bad, the spark can be weak or missing, and the engine won’t run right.

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off boost

"[184.6s] Right. But as you see in the picture I posted, the only way for me to really test whether this [195.0s] thing was running properly was to call my brother and say, dude, bring your van over here. It's [201.1s] time to do another drag race because he had beaten me once before and he shouldn't have. So [207.6s] I'm happy to report. I whooped my brother in the drag race. So the four cylinder turbo is [214.5s] back. I'm running on all four and we had a good laugh. So is it true your 13 year old twins were [221.6s] also sprinting next to you guys and out running the vans? Any truth to that story? We couldn't [227.9s] take the embarrassment of watching my boys and truly off the line. Before I get into boost,"

“Off boost” means the turbo isn’t pushing extra air into the engine. The car can feel different in that situation, and comparing how it drives off-boost versus on-boost helps figure out what’s going wrong.

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four cylinder turbo

"[201.1s] time to do another drag race because he had beaten me once before and he shouldn't have. So [207.6s] I'm happy to report. I whooped my brother in the drag race. So the four cylinder turbo is [214.5s] back. I'm running on all four and we had a good laugh. So is it true your 13 year old twins were"

This means a turbocharged engine with four cylinders. They’re saying it’s working correctly again and the engine is running smoothly instead of missing.

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running on all four

"[207.6s] I'm happy to report. I whooped my brother in the drag race. So the four cylinder turbo is [214.5s] back. I'm running on all four and we had a good laugh. So is it true your 13 year old twins were [221.6s] also sprinting next to you guys and out running the vans? Any truth to that story?"

“Running on all four” means all four cylinders are firing and contributing power. If one cylinder is misfiring, the engine may feel rough, lose acceleration, and sometimes trigger diagnostic trouble codes; getting back to “all four” is a sign the fix worked.

Car

Lotus Elise

"[296.0s] nice. Anyways, the other was I had a really fun spirit of drive in the, the Elise. [304.3s] Nice. My daughter had a, she had a dent. Well, it was, it was not the spirit of drive that you [310.2s] might be thinking when you think of Lotus Elise. Now I already described that driving from [310.2s] "

The Lotus Elise is a small, lightweight sports car that’s famous for feeling fun and nimble to drive. They’re about to talk about an Elise-related story after mentioning their daughter’s dent.

Part

rebuilt gearbox

"Well, quick one, the 996 build, we were putting in a rebuilt gearbox into the thing because the original one was making a lot of rattling... So we just pulled the gearbox and we've got a new one going in."

A rebuilt gearbox is a transmission that’s been taken apart and fixed, then put back together. They’re using it because the original one was making a rattling noise, and they confirmed the problem was inside the gearbox.

Term

seracoded

"I mean, literally, they just got it in this morning and the exhaust system was going in it. We had it seracoded. And so I should be driving that car this weekend for sure."

“Seracoded” sounds like a coding/calibration step performed after installing or updating a component, often to align electronic control modules with the vehicle. In practice, this kind of step is commonly required after certain drivetrain or control-related repairs so the car communicates correctly with its systems.

Company

Callaway

"But the real big news honestly is and I basically, we talked about it kind of last week as well, but we finally signed the deal with Callaway to become an authorized performance center."

Callaway is a company that makes performance upgrades for cars. The hosts are saying they officially partnered with Callaway so they can do Callaway-style upgrades as an approved shop.

Topic

focus group for aftermarket vendors

"I participated in a bit of a focus group for aftermarket vendors and companies with that company Slate. So, so we're talking about small truck EV trucks."

They’re talking about getting aftermarket companies together to plan what accessories or upgrades could be made for the new truck. It’s basically an early collaboration session.

Company

Slate

"So, so we're talking about small truck EV trucks. Is that the Yeah, so it looks like it's small, but it's actually a bit bigger than you realize. Okay. Yeah. And so Slate are building a truck basically with two battery configurations and no options."

Slate is the company making the EV truck being discussed. The idea is that they keep the truck’s setup simple—fewer choices and standardized configurations—to help keep the price down.

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two battery configurations

"And so Slate are building a truck basically with two battery configurations and no options."

This means the truck can be ordered with one of two battery setups. Different battery choices usually change range and price, and fewer choices can make the whole vehicle cheaper to build.

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no options

"And so Slate are building a truck basically with two battery configurations and no options. So their whole approach to this whole EV space is quite, quite interesting."

“No options” means you can’t pick a bunch of different packages or custom features. The company builds it in a simpler way so it’s easier and cheaper to produce.

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cost out of the manufacturing

"You know, they're driving all the cost out of the manufacturing and really out of the system to try to be able to deliver a truck for a really, really affordable price."

“Driving costs out of manufacturing” means redesigning processes and components to reduce expense—often by simplifying parts, reducing labor steps, and standardizing production. The host frames Slate’s approach as a strategy to make an EV truck affordable by attacking cost early in the production system.

Car

Pontiac Fiero

"I think a lot of you guys know the Pontiac Fiero assembly is where I actually started in the automotive industry way back when."

The Pontiac Fiero is a classic Pontiac sports car. The host brings it up because it’s where they first worked in car manufacturing.

Concept

aftermarket solutions

"So this little focus group, they got a bunch of vendors together who want to work with them to develop, you know, aftermarket solutions for the truck."

“Aftermarket solutions” are parts or software added after a vehicle is sold, typically to improve performance, appearance, capability, or convenience. Here, the discussion is about vendors collaborating to build add-ons for a specific EV truck platform.

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aftermarket parts

"So go ahead and get all your aftermarket parts. If you want this thing optioned or any additional capabilities, which many probably will."

Aftermarket parts are upgrades or replacement parts made by other companies, not the car brand itself. If the truck comes with fewer extras, people may add more aftermarket stuff.

Concept

direct to consumer

"And you know, they're selling it direct to consumer. So the whole, there's so many things that they're doing fundamentally different. There's no, you know, dealerships."

Instead of buying the truck through a regular car dealership, the company sells it directly to you. That can also affect how service and warranty help works.

Concept

authorized service centers

"So service are going to name some authorized service centers, but they're also going to allow the owner of the truck to service their own car."

Authorized service centers are repair shops that the manufacturer trusts to fix your car correctly. They’re often the places you go for warranty-covered work.

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owner will be able to do warranty work

"And to the point where they're even suggesting that the owner of the vehicle will be able to do warranty work that they'll get paid by Slate to complete."

They’re saying the owner might be allowed to do some warranty repairs themselves and still get reimbursed. Usually, warranty work has to be done by approved shops.

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blacklist

"Anybody but him. That's right. You'll be on the blacklist. Blair is on the blacklist."

A “blacklist” here means the manufacturer may not let certain people handle warranty repairs. If you use the wrong person, the work might not be covered.

Company

Long Beach design office

"Yes. No, they're not. I mean, they have a design office in Long Beach, but their main office I think is in Troy, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit, but the factory is going to be in Indiana."

They’re saying the company has a design office in Long Beach. That’s where the vehicle is likely designed, even if the factory is elsewhere.

Company

factory in Indiana

"but their main office I think is in Troy, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit, but the factory is going to be in Indiana. They bought some old print press factory and building out the trucks there,"

The transcript says the factory will be in Indiana, indicating where the trucks will be built. Manufacturing location can affect supply chain, parts availability, and long-term support for service and warranty.

Concept

overlanding type of gear

"they had a prototype and you got to see it?... One was all outfitted with, you know, some aftermarket kind of overlanding type of gear on it."

Overlanding gear is stuff you bring to travel farther and more independently, usually for rougher roads or camping. In this segment, they’re saying the prototype was set up for that kind of adventure use.

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rear wheel drive

"One was all outfitted with, you know, some aftermarket kind of overlanding type of gear on it. You know, it's a rear wheel drive only... Absolutely. And rear wheel drive might sound a little bit scary, especially in a pickup truck..."

Rear-wheel drive means the back wheels do the pushing. Some trucks can feel slippery because the back doesn’t always have much weight, but good tires (and extra weight where it matters) can help a lot in snow.

Car

Ford Maverick

"I think about the Ford Maverick and what a huge seller that thing has been... Absolutely. And rear wheel drive might sound a little bit scary, especially in a pickup truck..."

The Ford Maverick is a popular small pickup truck. They mention it to compare how well a compact truck can sell, even when the drivetrain setup isn’t what people expect.

Term

snow tires

"But I imagine with snow tires, for those of us who live in cold climates, in fact, just freaking snowed yesterday... So you get a set of good tires in there."

Snow tires are specialized tires designed with softer rubber compounds and deeper tread patterns to maintain grip in cold, snowy, or icy conditions. The transcript frames them as a key solution for making rear-wheel-drive vehicles feel confident in winter weather.

Concept

narrow the market appeal

"I think it's really smart for them to do things like this to help narrow the market appeal and make it even more polarizing to amp up the desirability of the car... they didn't let you option with the PDK..."

“Narrowing the market appeal” is a product strategy where a manufacturer deliberately limits options or features to target a smaller, more specific buyer group. In this segment, the hosts argue that making the GT3SC manual-only and restricting PDK availability increases polarization and desirability among enthusiasts. It’s essentially a positioning choice: fewer buyers, but more passion.

Concept

weight reduction

"But performance wise, you know, they're talking about it's 1500 kilograms... So they spent a lot of effort lightening this car... magnesium wheel... carbon brakes... carbon panels everywhere... part of the way to contain the weight..."

Weight reduction means making the car lighter. A lighter car usually stops better, turns more easily, and feels quicker because there’s less mass to move around. The hosts say Porsche spent a lot of effort to keep this car light.

Term

magnesium wheel

"I mean, that's music to my ears... magnesium wheel, forged magnesium wheels and, you know, the defenders are carbon brakes are standard."

Magnesium wheels are lightweight rims that reduce unsprung mass, which can improve responsiveness and ride/handling behavior. Less rotating mass can also help the car accelerate and change direction more crisply. The segment ties magnesium wheels to Porsche’s broader effort to keep the GT3SC extremely light.

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carbon brakes

"...forged magnesium wheels and, you know, the defenders are carbon brakes are standard. You got carbon panels everywhere, right?"

Carbon brakes (typically carbon-ceramic) use carbon fiber materials for the brake rotors, offering strong heat resistance and consistent performance under repeated hard use. They’re commonly found on high-end track-oriented cars because they can help with fade resistance. The hosts note they’re standard on this car, reinforcing the track focus.

Term

carbon panels

"You got carbon panels everywhere, right? That's right. That's right."

Carbon panels refer to body components made from carbon fiber composites, which are strong but much lighter than traditional steel or aluminum. Using carbon extensively is a common strategy for reducing curb weight and improving performance and handling. In the segment, carbon panels are presented as part of the GT3SC’s overall weight-reduction approach.

Term

PDK

"That's right. That's right. I think that's part of why they didn't let you option with the PDK is what Proininger said is this was all part of the way to contain the weight..."

PDK is Porsche’s automatic transmission that uses two clutches to change gears fast. It’s popular because it’s smooth and quick. The hosts say Porsche didn’t offer it here, partly to keep the car lighter and partly to make it more focused for enthusiasts.

Topic

Naming a Porsche convertible as "GT3" vs "SC Cabrio"

"“I was never against this idea… I don't know that I would have called it a GT3 though… why not let it just call it SC Cabrio or something.”"

They’re arguing about what Porsche should call this convertible. The name matters because it changes what buyers expect the car to be.

Concept

GT3 racing class expectations

"“GT3 is still kind of a is a racing class. And you're not going to go out there and race this Cabrio…”"

“GT3” isn’t just a marketing label—it comes with a racing meaning. The debate here is whether a car that can’t really be raced the same way should still use the GT3 name.

Car

Porsche 992 GT3s

"“I like the nostrils. I like what they've done to the front end on the 992 GT3s…”"

They’re referencing the Porsche 911 GT3 from the “992” generation. They’re talking about how the front of that car looks—specifically the distinctive front openings/duct-like features.

Car

Porsche Boxster

"... svelte as we'd like. Yeah. I mean, you look at a Boxster Spyder, the Spyder RS or those are great. Frankly..."

The Boxster is a Porsche sports car with the engine placed in the middle. It’s designed to handle well and feel sporty when you drive. Some versions are even more performance-focused, which is why it comes up in enthusiast talk.

Car

Boxster Spyder

"you look at a Boxster Spyder, the Spyder RS or those are great. Frankly, a standard Boxster from the rear three quarter, it's spectacular."

The Porsche Boxster Spyder is a sportier version of the Boxster. They’re saying it looks great from the rear three-quarter angle, more balanced than the car they’re discussing.

Term

MSRP

"And I've heard and then I've got some buddies here who have also inquired and are thinking about doing it. So I've heard from three different dealers like accounts on what they're thinking. Now, this thing is pretty expensive as we, you know, very predictably, we can imagine."

MSRP is the price the manufacturer lists for the car. Dealers can still charge more than that, so the final price you pay is often higher.

Term

dealer markup

"Now, this thing is pretty expensive as we, you know, very predictably, we can imagine. I think 270 K or whatever is what it starts at. So you're like, by the time you actually spec, one of these are probably three 25, three 30 something in that ballpark before dealer markup."

Dealer markup is the “extra charge” a dealer adds to the price of a car. Even if the car starts at a certain number, the final price can jump after the dealer adds their markup.

Term

sticker

"So I heard what one sales guy at a dealer told my buddy, Hey, well, if you trade your GT3, [1324.7s] we'll sell this to you at sticker."

“Sticker” is the price the car is listed for by the manufacturer. If a dealer sells “at sticker,” you’re paying that listed price instead of a higher one.

Term

ADM markup

"And he said they're looking at $100,000 markup, ADM on these things. [1351.0s] And then Tim procured some information as well. And apparently they're [1356.4s] they're throwing around the $60,000 ADM markup on these things"

ADM is an extra fee a dealer adds on top of the car’s listed price. When demand is crazy, some dealers charge this to make more money.

Concept

out-the-door price

"I don't know how they're going to get, [1369.1s] you know, $100,000 over sticker on these things. So you're going to be into the 420, 430 range."

“Into the 420, 430 range” is shorthand for the out-the-door price—what the buyer actually pays after adding dealer markup and other costs. It matters because MSRP alone can be misleading when markups and fees are involved.

Car

Ford Mustang GTD

"but tell us about that Mustang GTD. [1416.1s] Yeah, sir. I've got that pictured behind me right now. Ford and Porsche both released some [1426.0s] Nürburgring numbers that they nailed."

The Ford Mustang GTD is a very high-performance version of the Mustang. They’re talking about how it stacks up by using Nürburgring lap times as proof.

Concept

Nürburgring lap time

"Ford and Porsche both released some [1426.0s] Nürburgring numbers that they nailed. And everyone's going fast, really, really fast, right? [1434.3s] right? And let's let's start with the GT3RS"

The Nürburgring is a famous German race track. Lap times there are used like a scorecard for how fast and capable a car is.

Concept

production based class

"kitted car. And, you know, it's running in what they consider this production based class. [1448.9s] And they put down a six minute 45 second lap."

A “production-based class” means the car is based on a normal street car, not a full race-only machine. It helps you understand how fair the comparison is.

Concept

pre production slash prototype class

"But they are in what's considered a pre production slash prototype class. Okay. So this is not even a released car, right? It is this competition version."

This means the car is basically a test version, not the final product you’d buy. Because it’s still being developed, its lap time might not match what a regular customer car will do.

Concept

downforce/aero ("more arrow")

"They amped up the power. They lightened the car. They added more arrow versus the previous GTD."

They’re talking about making the car “stick” to the road better using aero parts like wings and spoilers. More downforce helps the car corner faster and feel more stable at speed.

Car

Golf Gtd

"...he car. They added more arrow versus the previous GTD. So that is smoking fast. But this is not even a ..."

In this podcast context, “Golf” appears to refer to a performance-focused Golf variant discussed in terms of speed and aerodynamic changes versus an earlier GTD setup. The mention of “more arrow” suggests updates to airflow/aerodynamics that help it feel quicker. It’s brought up because the Golf line has multiple performance trims that enthusiasts compare.

Concept

development-spec vs released production car

"But this is not even a car that has been released yet. So, you know, it's certainly a way for them to go out there and test and put down a number."

They’re warning that the fastest test car might not be the exact same car you can buy. So the lap time can be impressive, but it doesn’t always tell you the final customer-car performance.

Car

Corvette ZR1X

"The ZR1X, when they went out and set those times last year, like the ZR1X, which is the fastest Corvette time was six minute 49 seconds, right? So this GTD, you know, spanked it by nine seconds."

They’re comparing the Mustang’s time to a very fast Corvette variant called the Corvette ZR1X. The idea is: if the Corvette is usually the quickest, and this Mustang is faster by a noticeable margin, that’s a big deal.

Company

Jim Farley

"Yeah. Let me ask you this, Jim Farley's eraser, the CEO of Ford, right? He cares a lot about this stuff."

They mention Jim Farley, who leads Ford. The point is that he publicly talked about aiming the Mustang GTD at a specific rival, so it wasn’t just a casual comparison.

Car

Porsche 911 GT3 RS

"He made no bones about the fact that they were going after the GT3 RS with this Mustang GTD."

They’re saying Ford wanted the Mustang GTD to compete with the Porsche 911 GT3 RS. The GT3 RS is one of the most track-focused cars Porsche makes, so it’s a tough benchmark.

Concept

"competition pack" strategy

"let's soup this thing up and call it a competition pack because like, is there any way?"

They’re wondering if Ford might be holding back performance and then offering it later as a “competition pack.” That would mean the car gets faster in stages, not all at once.

Concept

sell a GTD at 350K

"Or do you think this was always the plan to sell a GTD at 350K? And then shortly thereafter,"

They’re talking about what price Ford might charge for the Mustang GTD. Price matters because it sets expectations for how “serious” the car should be compared to other track-focused models.

Car

Mustang GTD

"...they are accepting orders for GTDs for this year and next year. So, you know, they didn't sell out all the allocation of those cars."

The Mustang GTD is a special, higher-performance Mustang meant to feel more track-capable than the regular lineup. The discussion is about how many people actually bought them versus how Ford plans to keep selling the next batch.

Concept

pre-production prototype class

"...classified in a pre-production prototype class... if everything isn't 100% finalized for production."

This means the car is still in development, not fully finished like the final customer version. So the results you hear can be from an early build that might change before production.

Concept

development drivers laying down lap times

"...they were running their development drivers... Their internal engineers were the ones laying down the lap times."

They’re saying the early lap times were set by the car’s own development team. Later, a top race driver might be brought in to extract even more performance, because they’re experts at maximizing pace.

Concept

ringer (ring specialist)

"...they'll go hire a ringer, you know, go get a ring specialist, you know, full on racer and throw him in the car."

A “ringer” is basically a top expert driver brought in for their special skill. In this case, they’re talking about someone who’s especially good at driving fast around the Nürburgring.

Concept

drag race

"I always feel like kind of a, I don't know how to feel about these drag race videos, on YouTube, but, you know, it's one of those guilty pleasures. It's like a, you know, a manual lightweight car enthusiast... the people are into drag racing because there's not a turn to save your life, you know?"

A drag race is when two cars race in a straight line to see which one accelerates faster. There aren’t corners to worry about, so it’s mostly about getting off the line cleanly and building speed quickly. That’s why it can feel like a “pure speed” test.

Concept

from a dig

"and so he brings that thing out and literally the ZR1X ran from a dig like nose to nose, with this Remak"

“From a dig” means the race starts from a stoplight-style launch. The car has to get moving right away, so tires and traction matter a lot. It’s a tougher test than a rolling race because you can’t rely on already having speed.

Concept

0-60 time

"A couple hundred grand, right? I mean, that's the 250k and they're like, they know, I think they actually released the prices, right? It's under 200 grand is it starts at under 200."

Car performance is often compared using how fast it goes from 0 to 60 mph. Drag racing is basically about that kind of acceleration. Even if the exact number isn’t stated here, the conversation is clearly about how quickly these cars build speed.

Concept

prepped surfaces

"Now, again, these guys are professional drag racers. They were not prep surfaces. They're just highlighting how insanely fast the ZR1X is."

A “prepped surface” is when the drag strip is treated to make the tires grip better. If the track isn’t prepped, it’s easier to spin the tires and harder to launch cleanly. They’re saying the race was still impressive even without that extra advantage.

Concept

speed or power doesn't always equate to speed on a racetrack

"It goes into, you could talk forever and maybe get into another episode of why speed or power doesn't always equate to speed on a racetrack."

Having more power doesn’t automatically make you faster on a track. A car also needs good grip, good aerodynamics, and the ability to brake and corner well.

Concept

Arrow and dynamics

"Arrow and dynamics and all of that have a lot to do with that."

They’re talking about how the car’s shape helps it stick to the road (aerodynamics) and how it behaves when you turn, brake, and accelerate (handling dynamics). Those things can matter as much as horsepower.

Company

Multimatic

"Mustang and that GTD is quite a bit developed by this company, Multimatic. And when you look at the team photo... you'll see Multimatic logos..."

Multimatic is a company that helps develop race/track cars. In this segment, they’re saying Multimatic played a big role in building the Mustang GTD, while Chevrolet is using more of its own people.

Car

BMW X seven

"I tried to get my wife to buy a BMW X seven and she was like, she did not like the interior of that car is just over styled."

The BMW X7 is a big luxury SUV. The host is saying his wife didn’t like how the interior looked, so it wasn’t her kind of car.

Concept

Neue Klasse

"It's coming called the Neue Klasse, which in translated from German just means the new class. So what I find interesting, a couple of things."

“Neue Klasse” is BMW’s “new class” strategy—an umbrella for a new generation of BMW vehicles and technology. The host connects it to BMW’s investment and how it might still include enthusiast-focused sports cars rather than only profit-driven models.

Concept

brand shapers

"...saying that they have not abandoned the sports car or the cars that they're calling brand shapers."

“Brand shapers” are cars that are made to help a brand feel exciting and special. Even if they don’t sell the most, they’re meant to build the brand’s reputation.

Concept

enthusiast cars still matter today

"...one of my favorite topics to discuss... is to what extent do enthusiasts cars still matter today? And, you know, and sometimes we get very cynical saying they don't care about us drivers anymore."

The host is asking whether “fun cars” still matter to car companies. Are they still making cars for drivers who care about driving, or only for what makes the most money?

Car

BMW M1

"...re resurrecting ideas such as the old M1 and going to make cars that are, you know, more enthusiast focused..."

The BMW M1 is a famous old-school BMW sports car. The host is saying BMW might draw inspiration from that kind of car to make newer models more exciting for enthusiasts.

Car

BMW Neue Klasse

"...sedly their strategy is once they get some of the Neue Klasse of cars launched, they are absolutely going back ..."

“Neue Klasse” is BMW’s plan for a new set of cars they want to introduce. The podcast is talking about it because it’s part of BMW’s future strategy. It’s not a single car you can buy today—it’s a direction for upcoming models.

Car

BMW i8

"...I've just put up a rendering of what that potentially could look like based on like an i8, which didn't sell well at all."

The BMW i8 was BMW’s flashy, futuristic hybrid sports car. The host is using it as a visual reference for what a new BMW sports car might look like, and saying it wasn’t a big sales hit.

Car

i8 (I12)

"...that potentially could look like based on like an i8, which didn't sell well at all. But, you know, BM..."

The BMW i8 is a sports car that uses a hybrid system, meaning it can run using electricity and also uses a gasoline engine. The podcast mentions it because it wasn’t a big sales success. It’s often discussed as an example of BMW experimenting with a new kind of design and powertrain.

Car

BMW 507

"...when I think of their lineage... but I can't go back to the 507, whatever. I mean, incredible cars..."

The BMW 507 is an old, rare BMW sports/grand touring car from the 1950s. The host is bringing it up to remind listeners that BMW has made truly special cars in the past.

Car

Alpina Z8

"...e Z series of cars that the Z3s, the Z4s, and the Z8s. Z8 was was absolutely pinnacle Z car. Z1 too, w..."

The Z8 is a BMW roadster, and Alpina is a tuner that makes special versions of certain BMWs. When people mention the Alpina Z8, they mean a more exclusive, enthusiast-oriented version of that roadster. It’s brought up because it’s considered a top example of the Z-car idea.

Car

BMW Z8

"...Z8 was was absolutely pinnacle Z car. Z1 too, with the retractable doors."

The BMW Z8 is a classic BMW roadster that’s considered one of the best Z cars. The host is using it as an example of the kind of special sports car BMW should keep building.

Car

BMW Z1

"Z8 was was absolutely pinnacle Z car. Z1 too, with the retractable doors. Yes, that's but that was cool."

The BMW Z1 is a BMW roadster with a really unusual feature: its doors retract into the car. The host is pointing to it as an example of BMW taking chances on fun sports-car ideas.

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BMW Z4

"Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. I have not been too crazy about their styling. I actually like the Z4."

The BMW Z4 is a small two-seat sports car/roadster. The hosts are basically saying they like how it looks, even if they don’t like some other BMW styling choices.

Car

Bmw Ix

"I was driving this morning and I see up ahead. Have you seen the I think it's called the BMW IX or something? It's like the hideous."

The BMW iX is BMW’s electric SUV. The speaker is basically saying they find the design ugly and it stands out in a bad way.

Concept

electric SUV styling trends

"Well, speaking of the 507, like they come up with this really angular, funky looking SUV thing, not the not the XM... And then they put these really tall vertical... kidney grills... And everyone's just trying to milk that concept."

They’re talking about how many electric SUVs are starting to look similar—big shapes, bold lights, and recognizable front-end designs. The host thinks some of these design ideas are getting overused and not improving.

Car

BMW XM

"Well, speaking of the 507, like they come up with this really angular, funky looking SUV thing, not the not the XM, the big one that tried to, you know, fight the Range Rovers and whatever,"

The BMW XM is a big, high-performance BMW SUV that uses a hybrid system. The host mentions it as part of BMW’s attempts to challenge other luxury SUVs.

Car

Land Range Rovers

"...M, the big one that tried to, you know, fight the Range Rovers and whatever, but like this smaller size electric..."

The Range Rover is a big luxury SUV made by Land Rover. It’s built to be comfortable on regular roads and capable on rough terrain too. People mention it because it’s one of the brand’s main, high-end models.

Term

kidney grills

"but like this smaller size electric. And then they put these really tall vertical, like a 507, like kidney grills on this thing. And I just think that are lit up."

BMW has a distinctive grille shape on the front of many cars, often called the “kidney grills.” The speakers are talking about how it looks on newer electric BMWs, especially when it’s lit up.

Term

angel eyes

"If you've seen the ones that are lit up now, I'm like, Jesus, you know, the angel eyes from the late 90s, that was cool."

“Angel eyes” refers to BMW’s distinctive ring-shaped headlight design, popularized in the late 1990s and widely recognized as a BMW styling cue. The host uses it as a reference point to argue that the illuminated look can be cool when done right, but others are “milking” the concept.

Car

BMW 3 Series

"Yeah, I know. I root for them to get better in that department. I drive a modern three series for my daily. And, you know,"

The BMW 3 Series is a popular BMW sedan that many people use as a daily car. The host is saying they drive one now, even though they don’t like some of the newer BMW designs.

Concept

ugly, but beautiful

"[2442.5s] here's the chance for us to maybe be a little controversial, maybe ruffle some feathers. I intend to a little bit, frankly. [2451.2s] So, you know, we've come up with this idea that we want to share the two or three cars that are ugly, but we love them."

They’re talking about cars that aren’t “pretty” in a normal way, but you still love them. Sometimes the design is weird or controversial, yet it still looks cool once you notice the details.

Car

FK8 Civic Type R

"[2564.3s] is the FK8 Civic Type R. Now this is like the Shredder 2017 2021. Somebody went absolutely nuts"

This is the Honda Civic Type R, generation FK8 (2017–2021). It’s a fast, track-focused version of the Civic, and it has a loud, aggressive look that some people love and some people think is too much.

Car

Porsche Cayman

"my buddy at the time, you know, had a four cylinder Cayman, like the 2.5 liter. And I'm like, no, this is like the hatchback version of that car, you know, from a precision standpoint"

The Porsche Cayman is a mid-engine sports car platform. Here, the speaker compares their car’s feel to a “four cylinder Cayman” (the 2.5-liter), using it as a reference point for steering/precision and how eager the car feels when driven hard.

Concept

Front wheel drive

"Front wheel drive, it is very willing to be pushed hard. The shifter spectacular man."

Front-wheel drive means the front tires do the work of both turning and moving the car. Even though it’s not rear-wheel drive, some modern FWD performance cars can still feel exciting when you drive them aggressively.

Term

shifter spectacular

"Front wheel drive, it is very willing to be pushed hard. The shifter spectacular man. So I don't love it"

They’re talking about how good the manual transmission feels to use. A “spectacular” shifter usually means it’s easy to grab the right gear and it feels crisp and satisfying.

Term

stanced on the color

"when you see it in person and I had mine stanced on the color, was it? No, it was, it was black and it was black with workmeister five spoke wheels on it."

“Stanced” is car-slang for lowering a car to make it look more aggressive. The speaker is saying their car looked especially cool because of the color and wheel setup.

Company

Workmeister

"it was black and it was black with workmeister five spoke wheels on it. And it was, it was so I'll put a picture up sometime."

Workmeister is a brand that makes aftermarket wheels. The speaker is pointing out that the wheel design helped make the car look especially “rad” in person.

Car

Alfa Romeo SZ

"This is so this is the Alfa Romeo SZ, which is a little sport, two door sport coupe from 1989 to 1991 as Z standing for Sprint Segato. So tell me about it in person."

The Alfa Romeo SZ is a rare Italian sports coupe from the late ’80s/early ’90s. It’s famous for its weird, angular design and for using Alfa’s well-regarded V6 engine. People often compare it to other Zagato-bodied cars from the same era.

Concept

platform sharing

"Yeah, it was very forward, you know, in its styling. And there was a sister vehicle. Okay. There was a bit of platform sharing. Lancia had a version of this thing called the hyena."

Platform sharing means two cars are built on similar “bones,” even if they look different. The hosts are saying the Alfa and Lancia share some underlying parts, but the bodies/styles are distinct.

Concept

CAD-designed car

"And apparently this is like one of the first cars that was designed primarily from like computer generated CAD designs. Was it? Okay."

CAD-designed means the car’s shape was worked out using computer software before it was built. The hosts are saying this Alfa Romeo was ahead of its time in using computers to design the body.

Company

Zagato

"By Alpha Romeo, but then Zagato, which is a coach builder that many of these these Italian manufacturers used, they're the ones who actually built the car."

Zagato is a famous Italian company that makes the special bodies for some rare sports cars. The idea here is that Alfa came up with the design, and Zagato built the finished car.

Term

Busso V6

"Now, what one of my bucket list to do is is to drive a car with a busso v6 in it, which this car had. But by all accounts, the busso v6 is one of like the best sounding, you know, induction engine engines out there."

A Busso V6 is an Alfa Romeo V6 engine that enthusiasts really love for how it sounds. The hosts are basically saying it has a special, memorable exhaust note that makes the car feel more exciting.

Term

three squared headlights

"So the Alpha male SE look, look at the the three squared headlights on this car next to the Alpha triangle. It's just those phone dial wheels."

They’re pointing out a specific look on the front of the car: the headlights are arranged in a very angular, squared-off way. It’s part of what makes the Alfa Romeo SZ look so unusual and memorable.

Car

Subaru SVX

"And yeah, there was a Subaru in a similar the similar era. What was that called? [2906.8s] SVX, but something like that."

The Subaru SVX is an older Subaru coupe that was meant to look different from everything else. People talk about it because it had a very unique design and a more upscale, sporty vibe for its time.

Car

Subaru Bratz

"...ut something like that. Well, we could talk about Subaru Bratz. I almost I almost put that on my list. But all r..."

The Subaru Brat is an older Subaru that’s kind of like a small pickup truck. It’s known for being unusual compared to typical cars. The podcast mentions it because it’s a distinctive model that some people like to talk about.

Car

Lotus Europa

"I love these things. In fact, we were first put in this list. I thought about the clown shoe and [2926.4s] I thought about the Europa. Yes, the Lotus Europa, you know, like the front looks great, but what is in the hell happened when they got to the back of the car?"

The Lotus Europa is a small, lightweight sports car with the engine behind the driver. Because it’s light and simple, it feels very quick and fun to drive, and the steering/handling is a big part of why people love it.

Concept

mid-engine car

"Okay. I mean, it's obviously a mid-engine car. Okay. And it's a great car. We restored one a few years ago and it's so much fun to drive the way that you're oh, it really is, man."

A mid-engine car puts the engine near the middle of the car instead of the front. That usually makes the car feel more balanced and easier to steer when you’re driving hard.

Term

head gasket

"[3042.8s] final days of my college undergrad that is a 99. Yeah. And I either had blown the head gasket [3050.8s] or cracked the block, but every time you'd see she knew driving down the road, you'd see this [3055.1s] big white cloud of smoke, you know, I had to carry a gallon of water with me everywhere I went."

The head gasket is a thin seal inside the engine that keeps coolant and oil where they belong. If it fails, the engine can overheat and you may see lots of smoke because coolant is leaking into the cylinders.

Concept

GM shut them down

"[3060.8s] anyways, I love the practicality of these things. I love the car. I really, really enjoyed my sob [3067.6s] and certainly lamented that when GM shut them down. So that, that is funny. And when I'm,"

The host is talking about Saab ending production after GM stopped supporting the brand. When a brand shuts down, it can be harder to keep cars running because parts and expertise become less available.

Car

Saab 900

"...sob person. She just always get the next sob. The 900s are super cool. Yeah. They are funky looking. Thi..."

The Saab 900 is an older car made by Saab. People like it because it has a unique, unusual look compared to many other cars. The podcast brings it up because it’s considered a cool, memorable model.

Concept

crossover/SUV dominance

"[3169.8s] What is what is the trend? What has the trend been that all car people lament that that [3177.3s] auto manufacturers have gone to an every other car you see on the road is shape like it's [3184.9s] it's the, uh, the, uh, SUV, it's the, what's the small SUV called crossover crossover crossover. [3193.6s] Exactly. Yeah. Every other car is a crossover."

They’re talking about how most new cars people see now are SUVs or crossovers. The idea is that automakers have moved away from traditional car shapes, so the roads feel more and more the same.

Car

Nissan Murano

"... all the rap fours and the Subaru ascends and the Murano and all the bullcrap Audi Q fours and BMW X three..."

The Murano is a midsize SUV made by Nissan. It’s meant for normal daily driving with a comfortable ride, not for racing. The podcast mentions it while talking about different SUV choices.

Car

Ford F150

"...it's like, yes, it's an ugly car, but what that... but guess what? It's not another F 150, which is all we see..."

They mention the Ford F-150 because it’s one of the most common trucks. The idea is that the Cybertruck looks different from the usual truck you see everywhere.

Car

RAV four

"...or another RAV four, or another Q five, I'm like, or a McCon."

They’re calling out the Toyota RAV4 as an example of a super-common SUV. Their complaint is that too many vehicles look alike.

Concept

form factor

"...everybody's going to this form factor that couldn't be more boring. And then he's freaking cyber truck drive down the road..."

They mean the general shape of the car—like how most new SUVs look pretty similar. Their point is that when everyone copies the same basic design, it gets less interesting.

Concept

quiet death of the manual transmission

"[3386.0s] article that you had written for full throttle talk. And it was titled the quiet death of the manual transmission."

This phrase means manuals are slowly going away. Even though some enthusiasts want them, most buyers and automakers are moving toward automatics because they’re easier to use and often better for fuel economy and regulations.

Company

Tony Roma

"[3398.0s] ...cited Tony Roma, who was the president of chief engineer... [3419.2s] ...he had shared the statistic and the justification behind why the C seven or why the C eight doesn't have a manual."

They mention Tony Roma as a key person involved with Corvette engineering. The point is that he’s the one who provided the “why” behind the decision to not include a manual.

Concept

take rate

"[3458.3s] you agreed with Tony Roma in that look at the take rate of the C seven Corvettes across the board. It was not good."

Take rate just means “how many people actually bought the option.” If only a small percentage choose manuals, the company may decide it’s not worth keeping manuals available.

Concept

buyer demographic shift

"[3483.5s] ...the demographic for the C eight Corvette... is significantly different from the CVET C seven Corvette... [3501.2s] ...attracts more millennials..."

A “buyer demographic shift” means the typical customer profile changes between model generations—age, income, and preferences. The hosts argue that the C8’s mid-engine appeal may have broadened the audience compared with the C7, affecting whether a manual would sell.

Concept

mid-engine design

"[3495.6s] ...the demographic for the C eight Corvette... [3501.2s] So it says the C eight with its mid-engine design attracts more millennials..."

Mid-engine means the engine sits more in the middle of the car instead of the front. That can improve balance and handling, and it’s part of why the C8 Corvette feels and markets differently than older Corvettes.

Term

paddle shift cars

"...the pallet shift cars are just faster. And that's the cold hard reality that they're up against."

Paddle shifters let you change gears with buttons on the steering wheel. The hosts are arguing that these cars tend to be quicker around a track because the shifts are fast and consistent.

Term

manual gearbox

"...a manual gearbox, you know, the cost to, to develop that and get it homologated in the U S is it's expensive."

A manual gearbox means you choose the gears yourself using a clutch and shifter. The hosts are saying it costs a lot to engineer and get approved for sale, and if not many people buy manuals, it becomes hard to justify.

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homologated

"...the cost to, to develop that and get it homologated in the U S is it's expensive."

Homologation is the paperwork/testing step needed to make sure a car (or a specific version) is legal to sell in a country. The hosts are saying that adding a manual option means extra cost to get it approved for the U.S.

Car

Corvette Grand Sports

"...go look at how many freaking Corvettes of C six, C seven are automatic. And we all know that the bulk of these buyers are old dudes who just sit them in their garage..."

They’re talking about Chevrolet Corvettes from the C6 and C7 eras and how most of them are sold with automatic transmissions. The point is that a lot of buyers don’t want to deal with a manual.

Term

seven speed grand sports C sevens

"...it's harder to find seven speed grand sports C sevens than it is the stinking automatic..."

They’re talking about a Corvette Grand Sport that has a seven-speed manual. The point is that the manual version is harder to find than the automatic, so fewer people end up buying it.

Company

motor one

"...So then you look at, and we're going to talk about motor one, they surveyed and dug out...the sales histories..."

They mention “Motor One” as a group that looked at past sales data to figure out how many people actually bought manual cars. It’s used to support the argument with evidence.

Company

Tremac

"...he said, listen, tell him that Tremac has fitted an manual gearbox"

They bring up Tremac as a company that can fit a manual transmission. The point is that if you want a stick shift, there may be conversion options even when new cars don’t offer them.

Car

Tesla Cybertruck

"I imagine I've made all the the Cybertruck Lotus crossover enthusiasts really happy on this podcast..."

The Tesla Cybertruck is an electric pickup truck. The hosts are joking that there probably aren’t many people who are into a very specific “crossover” of interests.

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