The Porsche 911 GT3 is a special, track-oriented version of the 911. Here they’re basically saying that, because prices have changed, you can now buy one more easily than you used to.
The Porsche Boxster is Porsche’s mid-engine roadster. They’re mentioning Boxster alongside the Cayman as cars Porsche might keep building using an older platform.
The Porsche Cayman is Porsche’s mid-engine sports car. They’re saying Porsche may keep using an older car platform to continue building the Cayman while dealing with changing rules and the move toward electrification.
Concept
electric thing
They’re talking about the push to make more electric cars. The point here is that the market and regulations didn’t play out the way people expected, so Porsche has to change course.
The Porsche 911 is Porsche’s most famous model. They’re saying Porsche wants to keep the 911 feeling like a 911—likely still naturally aspirated—while still complying with government rules.
A hybrid uses both a gasoline engine and an electric motor. They’re suggesting Porsche might add some electric help to comply with rules while keeping the 911’s feel.
GT4 racing is a type of motorsport where race cars are based on real, street-legal models. The idea is that the rules are designed to keep costs lower than higher-level racing, so more people can compete.
Market value just means what people are willing to pay for a car. The hosts are saying the 911-based version should be worth more to buyers than the Cayman-based version.
They mention the BMW M3 as a recognizable performance BMW. The conversation uses it to illustrate how people talk about their cars when someone asks.
Concept
manual vs automatic transmission
They’re talking about two ways a car can shift gears. A manual needs you to use a clutch and choose gears, while an automatic does the shifting for you. The debate is basically about which one feels more fun or “right” to drive.
A “parts bin car” is when a company builds a new model mostly by reusing older parts instead of creating lots of brand-new stuff. Enthusiasts use the term when they feel the car isn’t as fresh or special as it should be.
“Purists” are car fans who care a lot about keeping things the “right” way. They may think certain changes (like using an automatic or reusing parts) make the car less authentic.
A “speedster” is a type of sports car that’s usually built for open-top driving and a more lightweight, stripped-down feel. Here, they’re saying people may buy them more for collecting than for actually using them.
“Flipping” a car means buying it and then selling it later for a quick turnaround. They’re implying the buyers aren’t planning to enjoy the car long-term.
Concept
shortcomings have now been overcome
“Shortcomings have now been overcome” is a shorthand for the idea that later versions of a model addressed earlier weaknesses—whether that’s engineering, reliability, or overall refinement. In this context, it’s tied to the hosts’ argument that newer iterations are better than the earlier “moment” the speedster represented.
They’re basically debating why Porsche didn’t build a convertible GT3 much earlier. It’s more about the design/business decision than a technical explanation.
The Range Rover is a large SUV made by Land Rover. It’s designed to feel luxurious while still being able to handle rough roads. In the conversation, it’s used as a reference for how other vehicles look.
The BYD Shark 6 is a car model made by BYD. In the podcast, people are just confirming the name—“BYD shark” and “Shark 6.” It’s mentioned as a specific vehicle they’re talking about.
The Ford F-150 is a large pickup truck. People use it for everyday driving and for hauling or work tasks. The conversation is mainly referencing how it can look different depending on the wheels and style.
Sliding doors open by sliding sideways instead of swinging out. They’re especially handy when parking close to other cars because you don’t need extra space to open the door.
Scissor doors open upward in a hinged, angled way instead of swinging straight out. They’re mostly known for the cool look and for helping you get in when space is tight.
The A-pillar is the vertical support at the front of the car, near the windshield. It can take up space where your feet go when you’re climbing in or out.
A foot rest is a spot where you can rest your foot while driving instead of keeping it on the pedal. They’re saying one car makes it harder to rest your foot during long drives.
Right-hand drive means the driver sits on the right side of the car. The speaker likes it because it can feel more convenient in certain road situations, not because it changes what you can see.
“Turnkey” means you can use it right away without much work. The speaker is saying their Porsche 964 is ready to go whenever they want to drive.
Term
respraying
Respraying means repainting a car’s body panels, typically to refresh faded paint, correct damage, or change the color. In enthusiast circles, it’s often discussed as a budget-versus-quality decision because paintwork can be expensive and time-consuming.
They’re talking about the real-life problem of having multiple older Porsches at home—where they fit, and what it takes to get them running and moved around.
Term
plug it for me
They’re talking about having someone connect the car to the right equipment—often a diagnostic computer or charger—so it can be started or checked properly.
A battery cut-off switch is an electrical disconnect that interrupts power to the car’s battery/charging system. Enthusiasts use it to prevent battery drain (especially on cars that sit), but if it’s part of a starting circuit, a fault or corrosion in the wiring can cause no-start issues.
A trickle charge is a low, steady battery charger meant to maintain a battery’s state of charge over time. It can keep a battery from going flat when a car is stored, but it won’t fix a bad connection—so the car can still click/no-start if the terminals or wiring are corroded.
A battery terminal is the connection point between the battery posts and the car’s cables. Corrosion at a terminal increases resistance and can prevent enough current from reaching the starter, leading to symptoms like repeated clicking and a no-start condition even with a new battery.
Oil pressure tells you whether the engine is getting enough oil circulation. If it drops when the car is hot, it can be a warning sign that the engine isn’t being lubricated as well as it should.
A six-volt electric fuel pump is a fuel pump that runs on a lower voltage than most modern cars. If it leaks slightly or leaves pressure/vapor in the lines, you can smell fuel—especially after the car has been sitting.
A hard line is the solid fuel pipe under the car, usually metal. If it’s modified or not sealed perfectly, it can leak fuel or let fuel vapor linger, causing that smell later.
Concept
reserve switch (fuel tap style)
This is basically a manual fuel valve. It lets you control when fuel is allowed to flow, and that can affect whether fuel smell shows up after the car has been parked for a while.
A soft line is the flexible fuel hose part of the system. It’s useful for routing, but hoses can wear out, so the connection to the metal line needs to be sealed well.
A fuel cock is basically a valve that lets you turn the fuel on or off. On older Porsches, it can be placed in different spots, so repairs can require careful line work.
“Carbs” are carburetors, which help mix fuel with air for the engine. If the car sits too long, the fuel in the carburetors can evaporate and cause trouble when you try to start it.
A bubble flare is a specific way of reshaping the end of a metal tube so it can seal tightly to a fitting. If it’s not done correctly, it can leak fuel.
A carbon canister is part of the car’s emissions system that traps fuel vapors. If it’s not working right, you might smell fuel even if there’s no obvious leak.
The transmission tunnel is the “channel” under the car’s floor where the transmission/drivetrain sits. If a fuel line runs through that area, a leak can be difficult to find.
Part
metal core valve covers
“Metal core” valve covers refer to valve covers built with a metal base structure, typically used to improve durability and sealing behavior compared with cheaper alternatives. The host also implies they can be removed and reused, which matters because reusing valve covers can still require fresh gaskets to prevent leaks.
Gaskets are like thin sealing strips. They help keep oil from leaking out where the valve cover meets the engine. If the gasket isn’t sealing well anymore, you’ll see oil seep or drip after work is done.
Sometimes oil leaks show up right after a repair or maintenance job. That can happen if a seal or gasket doesn’t seal as well after the parts are taken off and put back on.
“Fuel smell” means you can smell gasoline. On older cars it can be caused by small leaks or fuel system issues, and it’s something you’d want to address for comfort and safety.
This means seat belts for every seat in the car. The host is wishing the car had belts in the back too, not just up front.
Concept
tool vs aspirational product of passion
The hosts contrast “tool” ownership (a car bought primarily for practical use) with an “aspirational product of passion” (a car bought for emotional connection, identity, and enthusiast culture). This framing helps explain why some buyers prioritize comfort and convenience over traditional enthusiast goals like driving feel or motorsport relevance.
Concept
driver engagement vs modern convenience
The hosts are debating why older cars can feel more fun to drive. They’re saying modern cars might be easier in some ways, but they can also feel more complicated overall.
A clutch is the pedal you press to change gears. It’s part of manual driving, and the host is using it to talk about how much more involved the driving feels.
A gearbox is what lets the car use different gear ratios. In this segment, they’re talking about manual shifting, which makes driving feel more involved.
The Fiat 500 is a small car designed for city driving. In the podcast, they’re talking about converting an older one to electric using a kit. The idea is that it can be done over a short weekend with the right parts.
An electric car conversion means taking a regular gas car and changing it so it runs on electricity instead. The hosts are saying it’s most worth doing when the gas parts are too expensive to fix.
They’re using the 2004 Ford Taurus as an example of an older car that’s often too expensive to fix when something major breaks. The idea is that converting it to electric can make more sense than repairing it.
They bring up the Fiat Panda as another kind of small, inexpensive car. Their argument is that if a car is likely to be scrapped because fixing it isn’t worth it, converting it to electric can be a better use of resources.
A carbon footprint is basically how much pollution a thing causes. They’re saying that if you convert an older car to electric, you can offset some of the environmental impact because you’re extending the car’s usefulness.
The Porsche 912 is an older Porsche from the early 1960s that’s related to the 911. Here, they’re talking about a particular 912 that’s being sold and how changes to its parts can change what it’s worth.
“Resto modern” means someone restored an older car but added newer-style parts or updates. Some collectors love it, while others think it hurts originality and resale value.
They’re discussing what engine is actually in the car and whether it’s been rebuilt using a different Porsche engine. What’s under the hood can change how the car drives and what collectors will pay.
“Dog leg first” describes a gearbox layout where first gear is positioned to the side (often down and to the left) rather than in the usual straight pattern. It can make shifting in stop-and-go traffic feel different, but the hosts argue it’s not necessarily a bad setup for everyday rolling driving.
Term
slate gray
“Slate gray” is just the car’s paint color. Collectors often care a lot about whether the color matches what the car should have had originally.
“Right hand side” here describes right-hand-drive (RHD) layout, where the steering wheel is on the right side of the car. The hosts connect it to regional delivery (South Africa vs Australia/UK), noting that steering-wheel placement is a practical difference you can spot when evaluating a specific Porsche.
“Galvanized” means the metal was coated with a protective zinc layer to resist rust. If a car wasn’t galvanized, it can rust more easily, and you might not notice it until you look deeper than the paint.
“Paper macho” is a slang way of saying the bodywork might be covered in filler or patch material. The point is that a car can look nice on the outside while problems are hidden underneath.
Term
Prano T-Power
“Prano T-Power” sounds like an aftermarket part they recommend to swap in. The hosts are saying the steering wheel wasn’t their favorite, but you can change it without a huge cost.
A “3.2 litre motor” is an engine displacement of about 3.2 liters, which typically indicates a larger, higher-output powerplant than the smaller engines used in many early 911-era cars. In this segment, it’s mentioned as a swap that adds modern power, but doesn’t fully eliminate the car’s older “challenges.”
“Horsepower at the wheels” means the power that makes it to the tires. It’s often less than what the engine is rated at because some power is lost inside the drivetrain.
Concept
restored and modded into a 911 type car
They’re talking about taking an older Porsche and fixing it up, then changing it so it looks like a different Porsche model. In this case, the car is made to resemble a 911, so people debate how much of the original identity should be shown.
“Long hood” is a nickname for an older Porsche 911 shape where the front hood is longer. It’s basically a styling cue people use to tell which generation/body style a car is.
“Badges” are the little nameplates/emblems on the car that tell you what model it is. Here, they’re saying that without the right badges, people may assume it’s a different Porsche.
“Numbers matching” is when the key parts on the car are the original ones that belong to that specific car. Collectors care because it can affect authenticity and value.
A deck lid is the rear panel you open to access the trunk area. People check the underside because it can show where badges or trim were originally mounted.
Resale price is what you could sell the car for in the future. The host is basically saying the change they’re making probably won’t make the car worth less when they sell it.
GSF is a parts store that sells aftermarket parts for European cars. The host is using it as an example of where they found the same trim piece for a lot less money.
A part number is like the exact ID code for a car part. If you search by that code, you’re more likely to get the right trim piece than by guessing based on the car model listing.
A “replacement head” means replacing the top part of the engine where the valves and combustion chambers are. If that part is damaged, it’s a bigger job than routine maintenance.
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G'day everyone, welcome back to Porsche Talk Radio Show.
Mark here from Mark and Cars, and each week I'm joined by Ajmal.
Look, we said we were going to commit to this a little bit better and try and get a little
bit more regular in our podcast, turns out we're full of shit.
But regardless, I've got Ajmal here this week and we're going to talk Porsche, we're going
to talk music, we might even talk graphic novels because let's face it, you took listening
to a couple of nerds.
G'day Ajmal, how are you?
I'm good, thank you, and we are being regular, this is, we are being very regular, this is
the second one this year, we're almost halfway through the year, so that's one every quarter.
It sounds a lot, you know what, when I look at the list of shows I've subscribed to on
my podcast list, this thing's becoming pretty regular from hobbyist podcasts like you and
I, but not people who are full-time podcasters, which the gap seems to be widening on the
frequency of which podcasts are published.
You know, I love listening to a lot, obviously, I love a hobbyist podcaster, and just because
you know they're doing it because they love it, not because they need to do it.
Yeah, well, I'm also, because you know, there's more podcasts than people in the world, I think
I saw that, everyone's a podcaster, I just think, but you know, when you go, we're not
doing it to become famous like Money Generating Podcast, we do it because it's fun, right?
It's fun to be able to talk and then be engaged with people who are like-minded for them to
message you and say, oh yeah, it's something you said, and you go, oh, I didn't know that,
or, wow, brilliant, thanks.
On that, our last show, admittedly, we'd had a six-month break, right, since the one before,
right?
We've had over 2,500 downloads on that show, Hajma, which as hobbyist podcasters, that's
not a bad number.
Yeah, that's not a bad number at all, and I think the, and I had a lot of really great
messages off the back of it, and that, for me, was like, that's a win.
And that's the best reason I do it.
Yeah, me too, and it was such so nice to hear from people congratulating me on my purchase,
and also just asking general questions about, you know, getting a rebuild on my 996 or what
caused it, or by the way, you might want to try this.
Those are the kind of things that, it's like, the conversations that are happening between
doesn't make it like it's such a massive gap between you and I talking, because there's
this themes running, you and I pinging each other about what's happening.
So no, I'm happy, I know it would be great if it was more regular, and it's probably
a good thing we don't live near each other.
I think you're right.
Yeah, because we'd probably just end up having these conversations in the pub without recording
them, and then forgetting what we talked about, and going, oh, I remember we talked about
something really cool, and now I've forgotten, because we had like 20 points after that.
Yeah, that's right.
I was about to say, because it happened in the pub, yeah, the, hey look, last episode,
what we, whilst we spent plenty of time talking about your car, and your new
old car, and a little bit about my car, what we didn't talk about was the brand.
Now, before we get into your car, my car, I'd like to talk about the brand for a moment,
because let's face it, when it comes to newsworthy, it is only a moment of content we've got to
discuss.
Okay.
Yes.
And look, in the better part of seven months, since we've actually discussed the brand,
a little bit's happened.
Not that much, but a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, look, you know, they're not making any money anymore.
The cars have hit a normal depreciation cycle, and I can walk into a showroom and buy a GT3
these days.
You know, so there's a number of factors.
No, no, it's the new GT3, what's it called?
SC?
Super.
No.
Is that what it stands for this time?
Yeah, yeah.
It's going to save the world.
Yeah, I don't know if they're banking on that, however, let me come back to that in a moment.
I'm more interested in talking about the fact that they're going to resuscitate by Hooker
by Crook, a better part of 15-year-old chassis to continue manufacturing boxes slash Cayman.
Yes, that's obviously because the bottom's fallen out of the electric thing.
Well, interestingly, it's not Porsche's fault, and it's not the manufacturer's fault.
It's the fault of governments who set a target of switch everything to that, and obviously
Porsche as a brand went, yes, obviously 9-11, it's our, you know, it's our, it's our sort
of brand differentiator.
It's the thing that everybody is iconic.
So we'll keep that as naturally aspirated, maybe with a little bit of hybrid thrown in,
but everything else has to go to allow us to meet the targets that governments have set.
But obviously, all of that's changed.
So people stop buying them.
Yeah, sure.
And so the appetite for the mid-engined car.
Interestingly, this has worked into a situation, though, with a new GT4.
Here's a version of a 9-11.
Now, what do you mean by the how do you mean?
Well, the new the new GT4 that Porsche is imminently about to release is 9-11 based,
as opposed to Cayman based.
So it's going to be more of a budget track entry version of a 9-11 called the GT4,
which complies with GT4, you know, architecture and rules to go GT4 racing.
So it's going to be a fascinating future ahead for people when they say, I've got a GT4.
Yeah, which one you got?
You got the Cayman or the 9-11?
And we both know which one's going to have a better market value.
Oh, I know.
It's it's the premium, isn't it?
It's it's but also it's quite nerdy.
It's quite nerdy to be able to say, yeah, it's that.
And at the same time, it's that thing of.
You know, there's that TV show years ago called coupling.
It was like the English version of Friends.
OK, I'm not heard of it, but carry on.
Well, there's a guy, I think it's from the 90s.
There's a guy who arrives at a party.
He's he's telling his friends a version of what's happened.
And he arrives at a party and he says, I'm late.
I have to go and collect my car from somewhere or something like that.
And then someone asks him, what kind of car is it?
And he says it's an M3 in blah, blah, blah, blue with a actual hack and a competition and blah, blah.
And and then the woman tells the person who he's talking to.
And he comes in and I had to fit my car from somewhere.
What kind of car was it?
And she remembers it as it was a blue one.
And it's that level of, you know, if you know, it's a really stuffy.
Oh, yeah, it's the GC4 that's based on the 9-11.
You're already trying too hard.
Yeah, you've had to say it on that front as an XGD4 owner.
How many, when I speak to other Porsche Cayman GD4 owners,
I wonder how many of them refer to their GD4 as a Cayman?
No one.
I bet no one does.
Because if you say GD4, you don't need to say that it's a Cayman.
Oh, to those who know, right?
Or a Porsche GD4 or is it a Porsche Cayman GD4?
I just want to know how they refer to it.
Because I consciously, when I'm talking to people, I know who aren't car people.
I would always refer to it as a Cayman GD4.
So they knew that it wasn't a 9-11.
I didn't have a 9-11, right, as a Porsche owner.
Yeah, well, I mean, this is when you talk to, yeah, non.
There's car people.
So when I, you know, when I'm talking to my wife, for example,
and I've got two 9-11s and she goes, the cell phone of the red one,
not the 964 or the 996.
Well, to that end.
The 356 in airguer, I just referred to as the red car.
Yeah, exactly.
Or no, although our cars all have to be given names by my daughters.
Really?
Yeah.
So my 996 is called Sally.
And when you say, why have you given it that name?
And they go, because it's a silly car.
So we've called it Silly Sally, Sally for short.
Got it.
And the 964 is called Goose.
And that was decided between my children and my wife, because Goose is the cat
in the Captain Marvel films, which is an alien cat.
And also a flurkin.
Yes.
I didn't know the name of it.
Yeah. Yeah.
So it's called Goose.
And also my wife called it Goose, because Goose from Top Gun.
Sure. It's the 80s thing.
Yeah, got it.
So it's she was going to call it after
what's his name's character in American Psycho.
And Christian Bale's character was called Patrick Beatman or something.
And I went, no, I don't really want to call it back.
I don't have to explain to my children where that name's come from.
Classic, classic.
But anyway, look, back to back to the portion news.
So yeah, 911 GD4 imminent.
Yeah.
We've got obviously the Cabriolet GD3, the 911 GD3.
I'm really trying hard not to go off on a rant here.
And I want you to, right?
Because I want to come, come from the other way.
And I want to start a conversation about the cars in general
and their nomenclature with regards to what the use case is for the cars.
So come on, let's go.
Well, when I first heard about it, I literally went on the fight.
It's like, why, why?
And then because that it's not the right car, not because it's brilliant
or anything like that, you know, that it's not brilliant because it
by all accounts, it probably is.
I'm never going to get to drive one.
You have an order one?
Not going to order one.
I mean, I might go to the dealership and look at one.
Sure.
And the thing with it is, you know, every time a new iteration comes out,
everyone goes, oh, yeah, it's going to be automatic only because you know,
automatic is the best way to go.
And then suddenly goes, everyone goes, oh, let's release a couple of manual
ones and five years later, everyone's like, oh, my God, they're like entity.
Those manual ones, they're the best ones to have.
And you know, when you're sat there, someone who drives a manual car,
loves driving a manual car and you're like, yeah, I can see where this is going.
So, you know, they released this one.
It's manual, right?
It's come out as manual and it's a convertible and you go.
So if it's so the right thing to do, why didn't you do it years ago?
And secondly, it's a parts bin car.
I know it's going to be brilliant because it's a G3 and Andrew Pruning has
designed it or have a hand in it.
And I know that all purists, because I was having this conversation,
as soon as it was released, I had the conversation with,
do you know the guy who's got the YouTube channel removed before race?
No.
Roken R, he's a massive YouTuber and he posted something about it and I messaged him
and we kind of decided that it's like kind of a parts bin car because it's not
like they've massively redesigned something.
And also it's one of those where no one's going to go racing in it.
So why would you?
And when and all of the reviews I knew would be, I thought I wouldn't like the car,
but I love it because it's amazing.
And what's the first thing that Chris Harris does?
He drives it and he goes, Oh, I didn't think I'd love this car, but it is amazing.
And of course you were going to say that.
And then the reasoning behind it, when you look at it and you go, well,
what's the part of the speedster then?
The speedster has like, the roof is awful.
It takes forever to put it up and down.
You wouldn't go drive it out.
Why would you?
Because it might start raining certainly in this country in Europe as a whole.
It would start raining.
It doesn't really work because of that.
You have to rely on guaranteed weather.
It's a bit more impractical.
Obviously just driving out and about, you know, the GT3 is quite a hard car.
Quite sort of wired car, you know, for performance.
And so when Andy Pruninger comes out and says, someone asked him, well, why now?
Why this? And he's like, well, people have said, you know, it's
a bit tough with the speedster putting the roof on and things like that.
And you go, what? So you've been doing it wrong all this time.
Have you been doing it wrong all this time?
And the speedsters were completely, utterly pointless, but everybody bought them.
Whereas now it's a case of, well, it's people who are going to buy them,
not going to drive them, not going to race them in five years time.
They're going to be flipping them or any years time.
And you just think, oh, it's so cynical.
It feels cynical.
It doesn't matter that the car is probably brilliant.
No, it's not probably.
It's definitely brilliant, right?
The car is going to be brilliant.
I know that, you know, because Porsche don't make crappy cars apart from the KM.
And so that's my feeling.
Don't you think that?
OK, firstly.
You would hope that Porsches get better.
Each evolution, wouldn't you?
Oh, that's my assumption.
Yeah.
But look, I think most listeners can appreciate that they the brand peaked at
996 but other than that, right?
The the the cars get better each time.
Yes.
The optimist in me says, sure, the speedster was a great car in its moment.
But it's shortcomings have now been overcome.
And that is with this route that it had.
That's right.
Now, but but let me finish.
Let me finish it for you.
The other part of it is they got no money.
We need to bring out something.
What do we got?
We've got all these cabriolet bodies.
No one wants the bloody things, I think.
Yeah, what are we going to do with these?
Oh, I know what we can do.
Right.
So and we haven't got the money to develop a new speedster or tooling.
Hmm, OK, yeah, this all sounds good.
And exactly, let's consider.
What are GT three owners are using their cars for?
Now, that's the show.
I appreciate that there are places in the world
where GT threes can be enjoyed at a level of enthusiasm,
and it's very not consistent with other parts of the world.
Like, let's face it, driving through the pothold
laneways at the UK may not be as exhilarating in a GT three
as it is on the glass like surfaces of the Swiss mountains.
OK. Yeah.
Yeah.
The or the incredibly well photographed speed zones of Australia.
By the revenue raising government.
So but then you said then you think yourself,
yeah, but if you're buying a GT three, isn't that for the track?
But the reality is it's not a great track car.
It's a good track car.
If you're a serious back on the track, you'd buy the RS.
In fact, you'd probably buy the previous generation RS
that it cost you less than the GT three.
Yeah, but is it?
Yeah, there is a money thing as well, isn't it?
But also.
So I walked into the dealership tomorrow, do you reckon I'd get one?
You would not even have to bet your very long eyelashes at them.
I do have long eyelashes.
I would suspect that the
of the brand in general has peaked
when it comes to getting the supply demand equation right.
Yeah, I don't know.
There's just something that I mean, for me to have that brand
for someone who is passionate about the brand,
but I'm never going to buy a GT three.
Firstly, I'm not a track person and also I like to have a car
that I can push on the roads without getting myself killed,
killing anybody else or losing my license.
And for me, that, you know, my nine and six is kind of there.
But there's other cars that you could have just as much fun out
slightly faster. But and the ride, the ride quality doesn't suit the roads
near where you live, right?
No, not at all.
But also it's it's one of those if you've got the money, of course,
you're going to buy it.
You might drive it on the blue moon or you might just drive it all the time.
But it's it's one of those where you go.
How long is the GT three been around?
The nine and six was the first GT three, right?
Sure. So the other day, right? Yeah.
26 years ago.
Yeah. Again, you know, it's when it peaked and everybody's now
and it's now, you know, can you imagine,
you know, in the in the design room or whatever they're doing?
And someone someone says, wait, wait, wait, guys, something's coming to me.
It's oh, my God, I've got this amazing idea.
Why don't we make a convertible GT three?
Everyone's just on blow everybody's mind and everyone's going to look and go,
well, if it's such a great idea, why don't you do it 25 years ago?
I just I can't see why.
As well as well.
Revolatory.
You cannot.
It's not possible to forecast an epiphany.
So you can't call that an epiphany.
You can't call that an epiphany.
It's like, I guess you can, because you know, the whole thing about
wheels and luggage, right?
That was for me, because that happened after
as humans would land on the moon.
Would land it on the moon before someone had the epiphany of I've got an idea.
Let's put wheels on these big suitcases.
I don't like that.
Hey, all right, we landed on the moon.
Apparently so.
Yeah, OK, right.
Good, good, good.
Seems to be a bit of a challenge of light, that's all.
Now, the.
The.
Brand in general, in the market.
I'm starting to suspect it's.
Its overall desirability.
Is shifting.
The new boys think about.
Yeah, because when.
Obviously, there's no real challenge to driving them.
The, you know, they drive like when you're driving about town, it could be
you could be in a BW that that easy to drive slash Porsche.
Yeah, and when I'm.
So I just walked back from my local village and my wife made the comment that.
In the 15 minutes it took to walk home, we saw maybe 789
Porsches, really?
What McKenzie and Kayans?
Oh, McCann's, KN's 39 elevens, one was a 991
And the rest of the nine and twos, two of them were convertible.
She's reflective of the demographic that you preside.
Well, no, because a lot of the others were older.
So there were a couple of boxers, like an 87986
And they are, they look, I think I've seen them around here for years.
I guess the same people still have them.
And there were a couple of Caimans.
So it's the, you know, it's a broad spectrum and they were canning.
There's on the high street, there's a couple of people who own like a KN and a McCann.
And.
But at the same time, I look at it and go, who's buying the new?
I've seen one electric McCann and they've been around for a while.
Who's buying those?
Are they that much better than, do you know, the number one electric car
that I see, the SUV size, is the GQ?
Oh, Jaiku. OK. Jaiku is the best selling car in the UK at the moment.
Well, it's because they look like smaller Range Rover.
Yeah, OK. Same shape.
We see the premium.
We see a lot of BYDC line sixes here, which look like the KN-2 or Sportback
or whatever they call it, right?
So here we have seen quite a number of those around.
I don't know.
I don't know. BYDC is number one selling car brand in Australia.
But that's as much to do with its dual cab ute, whatever that thing's called.
I can't remember the name of it.
The because we have certain tax breaks associated with the
the cars that have a certain carrying capacity here in Australia.
So people buy those stuff.
So back to talking about the brand.
Hang on. I don't know.
Where do you have an echo chamber? So I'm not sure.
It's got a BYD shark.
Oh, shark. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
They've got like, you know, kind of oceanic names.
That's actually that's actually a hybrid, not a electric for electric, by the way.
But anyway, that aside, the yes.
But when you talk about McCann, I see quite a number of electric McCanns here.
But apparently they go OK in the part of Australia I live in.
I can't speak for the balance of Australia.
And I would say at the.
I live by house sort of backs on to a.
School that has people of a certain
affluence, send their daughters there.
And I would see as many electric McCanns as I see.
Petrol slash diesel McCanns.
So I've not seen that many.
Yeah, there's a lot of the KNs.
I haven't seen any electric KNs on the road yet.
I mean, that was the last likely product over here.
KN is massive over here when you stand next to it.
It's huge. And for the roads, certainly where I live.
I wanted to break.
I used to associate the size difference as significant.
But you know, like the third generation shape where they sort of went to the unibody
and it was a bit more compact than the KN.
Right. I wonder.
I know. No, no, KN.
I'm thinking like about maybe 80s through to about 2012.
That sort of era of KN.
You know, I saw one of those in the road the other day.
GDS sounded amazing when it came past.
You had big burbly V8 type thing.
I thought, geez, that looks nice.
And right behind it was a McCann T.
And it was wider.
Oh, wow.
So yes, that's it.
You know, the sizing of cars is disproportionate.
Right. Right.
Yeah. And I don't understand why that is.
Because, you know, when models get bigger and bigger and then they just introduce a smaller one.
Yeah, that one gets bigger and then they introduce a smaller one.
And I just don't understand that.
You know, like even like the Toyota Igo or whatever it is, it all pumped up.
Oh, yes.
The size of a golf.
Golf is massive.
And we've got an Audi A3, really old one.
And now I'm in that car just driving around and you go, I feel like I'm in a tiny car.
And it's not tiny for the UK.
Same for the UK.
Yeah. US listeners would think an A3 is the size of a Fiat Jolly.
Let's face it.
Yeah. In the US, it would be tiny.
But that's more reflective of the size of roads and things like that as well.
The cars are made for their roads.
Whereas over here, which is why we don't have American cars over here,
because the roads are just they're too big.
Do you not have rims and stuff like that?
You don't have the big F-150s and that sort of stuff.
Oh, I think we do have the rat.
I've seen a few of them with the massive tires.
I've seen a few of them where, like, you know, the road shakes as they go past.
But they're not very popular.
I mean, most people for pickups and stuff.
Well, parking is brutal.
Yeah, it is because they take up two spaces.
You know, I go and park in my A3 in a normal car parking space and it's quite snug.
Well, it seems like I drove.
As you know, I drive a van most days.
I got a V-dub multi van, right?
And in my minute, tight spot.
I just walk through and go out through my sliding door
because I don't have to swing the door out to get in there.
Oh, yeah.
See that sliding doors.
Why aren't sliding doors more common on passenger cars?
I'm baffled because you don't need to swing the door out to get out of the door.
Now, don't go.
Scissor doors would be cool as buggery, as would butterfly doors.
However, the the reality is a sliding sliding door is an absolute gem.
I don't remember back in the early 2000s.
There was that Peugeot little car that had 2007.
Was that what it was 2007?
Yeah, had the slide.
You weren't allowed to say two to two.
You weren't allowed to say two double seven.
You're right. You have to say 2000
OK, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's no.
Otherwise, it's like a multiple of James Bond's.
Yeah. Right.
But it was an electric door.
But it was an electric door.
Oh, was it? And which meant that.
Yeah, because it used to fail.
So which means you got stuck in the car.
So you were climbing out the back of it.
Yeah, I had the hatch.
Yeah. So that.
But I there's a there's a stigma attached to that, which is kind of unfair.
But it's kind of the mobility someone's in a wheelchair, kind of.
Sure. Sure.
Solution to it.
But the sliding door is a great solution to.
Oh, yeah.
In challenges, right?
You know, we've got.
Yeah.
Because parking is not like shopping centers go.
Oof, it's 10 years gone by.
We'd better make the parking spots wider.
Yeah, they don't care.
No, they don't do.
But also.
But in my 964
because the seats quite far forward from the door opening.
So I mean, and the bolster is worn on my seat.
So I have to really slide across it when you're squeezing it out.
How do you have your feet clear in the A-pillar or the the upright,
you know, to be with the door opening?
No, that's actually fine.
It's and also because I drove, I went to change the subject slightly,
but I drove somewhere to meet somebody.
And it was like a 125 mile roundtrip.
Yeah, you're nice.
Any nice foot.
So so I was on the motorway and these a roads and things like that,
the highway and you really notice that there's no way to rest your foot.
No, no, no.
No, there's no because the pedals right by the tunnel
that in the middle and and also it's so far over
that there's no gap between the pedal and for so in my nine on six
in the Audi, there's like a foot rest.
So when you're cruising, your foot's just resting.
But now it's on and the pedal's so high
and it's all the way over to the left.
And sometimes when you get tired, you move your foot off the pedal.
And because it's so far over to the left,
we're not then have to change.
You have to look down to see where the pedal is.
I'm going to press the brake or something like that.
You know, I will say this.
I've not I'm in the fortunate position
where I've driven a number of the Porsche products across generations, right?
I've never driven a right hand version of a car
that I think is better than the left hand version.
I just always think the the way the pedal box works, they built it
with one use in mind and compromise to make it the other.
See, I don't know, because I'd have to drive a long hood right hand drive.
Because I've got a long hood left hand drive.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which is obviously better
because that's what it was designed to do.
Sure. Yeah.
It would be great to try a right hand drive long hood to see
what the difference is in just the ergonomics.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I understand the because without the dead pedal,
you've got the wheel well, you know what I mean?
On the left side.
Yeah. Yes.
So and we're the accelerator.
Anyway, that aside, we've got listeners from the drive on both sides of the car.
Why don't you tell us listeners if you've had the opportunity
to drive the other side of the car version of your car, which you preferred.
Try and be objective.
You know, it's hard when you own a car to be objective about,
yeah, OK, maybe the other one might be better or no, no, this one is better.
And tell us why I'd love to hear.
They're still nice having a right hand drive.
They're called for. Yeah, sure.
Yeah, I believe you, especially when you're on, like, you know,
the laneways you need, but all vehicle cars are little.
So it's not like it's a visibility problem, right?
No, no, it's not that at all.
Yeah, it's just the convenience.
And I guess the 964 is just more modern as well.
That's the difference.
Sure. Just the other side.
I don't think I've touched the 912 since I've had the 964
You mean the one you have to sell?
But what I have to say is co covered in dust.
And it's more because it is just so convenient.
That was the whole idea of buying the 964
It's so turnkey convenient.
So any time the weather's good and I'm going somewhere, you should jump in and go.
You know, you have done the right.
You have done this the right way, because had you sold the 912 first.
That money would have been washed away in other parts of the household
and you would never have gotten the 964
I probably would have spent it on respraying the 996
Yeah, whatever it was. Yeah.
Yeah. So tell us where is the whole 912964 thing
going to the garage?
At the moment, I'm not in the good books at home
because my wife had set up like a gym type thing
that the 964 is now parked on top of.
And the 912 is literally just neglected and sat there
and I need to get it going, get it out and get it sold.
So I need to fire that up.
Why don't you just call the guys at Rint and say,
plug it for me?
I don't know. Yeah, that's what I need to do.
But the thing is, I need to take it down there.
I don't have a look. Just call them.
They'll come pick it up.
No, I really should get it going first.
Look, you're going to spend four months to do that.
They'll spend 40 minutes.
No, no, I can get it going.
It's just it's just I haven't tried to get it going since
September. Oh, no, did I?
I may have started it once because it's got the really plugs in now.
OK, hang on. A listeners, does anybody deserve a 912 less?
What? I do love it.
I haven't started it since September.
You know the Ferrari collector, Rajmal?
No, but it's because the 964 has arrived
and it just means that I'm distracted.
So and I've been doing a little bit of
fettling of stuff on the 964
because I did have a breakdown in it.
Oh, tell us about that.
So you're not told you the battery was dying.
Do I tell you that?
Yeah, yeah, you're using the cut off switch
to get around the problem, fact you had to fix something, right?
Yeah, so I was putting it on
so I driven it around quite a bit, but I went to the
I went out for brunch with my wife, then we went to the local shop
and I parked it in the car park and it wouldn't start back up.
Oh, just the ignition came on.
Just click, click, click.
Yeah, don't all just not to get home.
Put it on trickle charge next day, doing exactly the same thing.
Still brand new battery.
And all it was was the terminal that goes from the cut off
to the negative on the battery was corroded.
Yeah. So I literally just cut the end off it.
Took the rubber off, reconnected it.
It's still not.
You know, when you take the rubber plastic off, it's normally like crisp copper.
Yeah, yeah, it was not a copper.
It's still brown and tarnished.
So but but so I put it back in just to get it going
and it fires up so much stronger than it ever did before.
Got it.
And I've left it for a couple of days with the switch, not
the cut off not enabled and it's still started up.
So I think that probably was the problem before.
And I feel like I bought a new battery for nothing because
just the way it cranks over is so different.
Yeah, I've done things like, you know, I've changed the
one of the electric window switches was broken.
There was a bit of over spray.
Someone has done some work on the front on the flap that sits inside the fuel flap.
There's a rubber flap that comes out to change that.
I still haven't done the rear hood struts because
honestly, it is so ridiculous to process
it because you have to take like the air box off, then put a sheet down
so the clips don't fall into the intake.
I can imagine.
Yeah, and reach down there and it's like, oh, come on.
So I need to sort that out.
And it's still there's still a smell of fuel.
Which I don't I thought it was the carbon canister.
I can't find a leak anywhere.
There's no, you know, I'm not seeing the fuel leak away or anything like that.
It's so it's vapor.
But when I drove it long distance for that 125 mile trip, round trip,
when I parked it back up, there was no smell of fuel.
And when I came back to the next day, there was no smell of fuel.
Mm hmm.
So so I'm
so I'm doing all of those things, but it means I'm completely distracted
from the night.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And my wife's like, because she bought me, you know, the vintage speed roof rack.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember Christmas or something like that.
Yeah, yeah, for my birthday, like years ago now.
And then she bought me, you know, the the roll the tool roll.
Yes.
It's like in tweed kind of thing.
Another one.
I'm going to let the version one of it.
Yep.
Yeah, brilliant one.
And then when I told her, I think I'm going to have to sell it.
She's like, what?
I've bought you all this stuff.
But but the thing is, she said, well, do you want to try and work something
out, which means you keep both.
And slash three of them.
Well, no, the nine and six is staying no matter what.
You're on it.
Yeah, the 912
I like owning it.
But now that I've got the 964 it would not get as much use.
But they both serve the same purpose, don't they, in your household?
No, they don't.
So the 912 I can't take my girls out on it.
I can't take my wife out on it.
I can't really take your passengers out on it.
I don't.
And it's also the the kind of anxiety of whenever you go somewhere,
is it going to fire up?
Sure, you get stuck in traffic.
It does get hot and then the oil pressure comes down and stuff like that.
So I would get rid of.
But if somebody rang me up and said, hey, do you want to swap it for a nine
93 I'd go, yeah.
Listeners, did you hear that?
And it wouldn't matter if it was a crusty
nine on three, as long as it was manual, coupé or target.
Yeah, preferably, preferably an S.
Yeah, that's never going to happen.
I'd never be able to do that.
But I'd do it for a 964
So the thing is, you know, when you when you look for sale now this year,
unlike last year, there's barely any 96 fours or 99 threes for sale.
Really hardly any like less than 20 of each in the country.
OK, so let's let's I want to talk about nine,
twelves in a moment because I sent you some messages this week regarding
a yes, we'll come back for that in a sec.
I've driven.
Oh, look, you know, you mentioned the smell of fuel.
Ever since I've put in a six volt.
Electric fuel pump.
I've had to smell fuel in the car when I get into it first thing.
It hasn't been driven for a while.
Then after five minutes, it blows through and I don't have that smell anymore.
If I drive it within a day or two, you don't have the smell.
But if it sits there for any longer than that, I do get the smell.
Now, when I did that, I had to disrupt the hard line that goes from the fuel tank.
For listeners that don't understand, we've actually got a reserve switch
like a motorcycle in 350 sixes for your say, like a fuel tap.
For the back of the fuel tap is a soft line that goes to a hard line.
And then I've disrupted from there to go into the fuel pump.
And then from the fuel pump goes back into the hard line.
But to do that, I need to trim down the hard line.
OK, oh, you know, and when I trimmed it down,
I didn't have the tool to put a.
What is a bubble?
What's what's the word bubble flare on?
No, no, flare on the hard line, right?
So I've just secured it with a.
Jubilee clip. Yeah. Yeah.
So I suspect that could be one of the places now.
But in a in a 356
A, B, pre a room, just a stock 356 split window or something like that.
An oldie.
The fuel cock that comes out of the bottom of the fuel tank is actually inside
the cabin of the car.
Now, if you had a three, oh, you got a 356 BT six or a 356 C.
It's in its outside of the cabin.
But with mine, it's inside the cabin.
So I had to replace the fuel cock a little while ago, because I had a problem there.
I don't have my problems of fuel cock or if it's the join between the.
I let you feel pump.
But in all reality, I don't use my electric fuel pump that often.
Or I drive my car off enough that my carbs don't dry out like I try to drive
the car once a week. OK.
So I don't I'm just wondering whether I just pull out the I put a first thing.
I put a bubble flare on the hard line, right?
Which where it's located is a complete pain in the arse.
I can't even begin to tell you how hard it's going to be, right?
But that aside, once I've done that, I might see how it goes.
But if necessary, I might if the smell is coming from the pump itself, I might pull the pump.
Hmm.
Now, yes, I thought because they have a carbon canister 964
So I thought, is it something to do with that?
Sure.
But nearly everybody says, no, it's barely ever that you need to do that.
And I just tried in the 964 as a fuel line
passed through the interior of the body or is it exterior of the body?
I don't know.
This is like check it might be worth checking
because you may have a problem in the transmission tunnel, you know,
it could be because that's where the hard line is in 356
And you know how much Porsche loves completely changing things, not ever.
Right. It could very well be problematic inside that space.
But anyway, it'd be worth investigating.
Listeners, I'm sure there's listeners out there that can answer our question.
The other thing, the other thing with 356
I had it serviced recently.
We spoke about the last podcast
and I've got metal core valve covers, which means
you can use it multiple times if you take the valve covers off.
But since the last service,
I've got oil leaks that I didn't have before.
So I suspect I might have to replace those valve cover gaskets.
You know, which is the gaskets.
Yes, disappointing for me.
Right. I've got the 912 rockers.
So it means I've got alloy.
I've put alloy valve covers on because they can bolt onto the
912 rockers assemblies.
And but the gaskets themselves, I've got a leak
that is absolutely shitting me to tears because I didn't have it pre service.
Right. Now, don't get wrong.
This is not a problem of the people who did the service.
This is a problem of echoed cars.
OK, you know, there's I'm sure we've also that meme where it's got that short board
that's like seven meters high at a university full of calculus
and the and the lecturers says, and that's how you stop
an early 356 from leaking oil.
Oh, yeah, yeah, right.
Yeah, my nine twelve's got oil leaks.
My 964 has got like I didn't think it had, but there's a tiny drip.
Like, you know, it's sure like one drop every five days or something.
Like it's barely anything, but
but on the 912 it's quite a lot.
But I was I was driving the 356
Well, where are we at?
What day is it? Oh, yeah, on earlier this week.
And as I'm driving, I'm thinking.
This might be all the car.
I'd ever need like if I could drive it every day,
but I could fix the fuel smell in the, you know, when you start it.
It was just it is such a light steering, beautiful driving.
Like when it's running, it's just such a delight to drive.
And I think myself, this car is now 66 years old.
Right, only six years older than mine.
It is honestly such a delight to drive
that I wonder why did that?
Why did they even bother?
With a 911 if cars drove this good back then.
And don't you run listeners who drive nine elevens?
I know I've driven nine elevens and it's look,
it took them all to get them right.
Like, you know, early, you know, until you get to a two point seven,
I don't know if it's worth it.
Upgrading from a 356
I see my 912 is.
I think I'd be happier if it had
probably belts all the way around and it was right hand drive.
And look, OK, sure.
None of these problems are unfixable.
It's just a car.
I drive is right.
It's just a car you bought, right?
Yes, fitted your budget when you chose to buy that car.
Because I know left hand drive cars are cheaper in the UK, right?
Yeah, they're quite a lot.
Yeah, so that's that's a compromise you consciously chose when you bought it.
Hmm. Yeah.
The.
The actual overall driving experience of my car
when I'm driving it the other day, I think.
Outside of air con.
I don't need anything else in the car.
I don't. Sure, I don't have Bluetooth.
I don't have carplay.
And you know what, that's part of its appeal.
Yeah, you know, I agree.
The phone's ringing.
You know, I wouldn't call that person back when I get wherever I'm going,
like I had to before.
Yep. No, I agree with that.
You know, there's this fact is of the just the me and the motor car that just
it was just like.
I don't understand why we're complicating things.
I agree.
I think the.
But the thing is, it's it's convenient, isn't it?
People want to a lot of people want to own an 11 who might not be car enthusiasts
and they just want to be able to get in and drive in pure comfort.
Sure. But yeah, sure.
So when you're coming at the car like that and I look,
I know we've got 992 listeners to the show.
Now, 992 listeners put on your seatbelts right now.
If you're not a genuine enthusiast,
if you've just bought that because you wanted a nicer per sat.
I get it.
I got no problem with it.
My van is the equivalent of that.
It is a tool as opposed to a product of passion.
They're very different.
I don't think these two things have crossover.
You either got a tool or you've got an aspirational product of passion.
You know, there's different types of enthusiasm, aren't there?
There's different types of enthusiasm.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I love to see about the brand and about the 911.
You can be enthusiastic about that and about a new one and about,
you know, having that all in comfort and the accelerating performance.
Or you can be about like we are maybe a bit more about the 912, the 356,
that era of car where it takes effort and skill to drive it,
to get more enjoyment out of it.
But it, as well, on that, it doesn't, it doesn't take more skill.
But more, it takes more effort.
I don't know if your car is tuned and running right.
It doesn't take more effort.
You get in it, you turn the key, the thing runs, you're on it.
You know what, in 1960, people drove these cars across countries.
No, I know.
But yeah, I think you have to be more deliberate in everything that you do.
And you are more precise in everything that you do.
I used to think.
You cars are forgiving.
I used to think the same, right?
But I'm not convinced.
I actually think we've created complication
that's added to making the thing actually no easier to use.
Don't get me wrong.
I've got a clutch.
I've got a gearbox that I've got a manually shift.
But I can get that in a 992.
That part isn't gone.
No, I still think there's more satisfaction to putting in that effort, I think, for me.
Yeah, sure, sure.
But I'll be used to hear back from the listeners.
Am I cocking on, which let's face it, I'm prone to do, right?
So, but I just, you know what, is the real symbol of cracking the big time,
bringing it back to an ultimate purity?
Yeah.
No, I agree.
I agree.
Because even when I think about, even when I think about modern every day electric cars,
for example, you know, I thought today, well, okay, if I had a tiny little electric car that I
used to go down to the local shops, then you're kind of contributing to reducing
short journey pollution.
Because I've got an old diesel that's got like 210,000 miles on it.
And I can't, I can't face getting rid of that because it's so good to just fill it.
I've said this before, to fill up with junk and take it to the tip.
And leave it there.
Probably leave it there.
But also, you know, I could, if I wanted to just get in it and drive to Scotland, I could.
Yeah.
You know, I could do a thousand mile journey.
But then even those little cars are so complicated.
They've got so much software and electronics and things like that in it.
And you know, when you think about when there's kids that you can buy to make your
old 60s Fiat 500 electric and you can do it in a weekend, you go, why are we doing more of that?
How cool would that be if everyone was driving around electric Fiat 500?
Not very, not very.
No?
No.
Look, I think the sweet spot for car, electric car conversions is the cars that you would not
repair. I'm talking 2004 Ford Taurus.
So over here, that'd be like a rental Clio?
Sure.
Right.
Or, yeah.
Or a, say, a three year old Fiat Panda.
Something like that.
Right.
Something that was going to go to the tip.
Yeah, something like that.
I guess, yeah.
But that works.
Because the carbon footprint of that car, you've, you've, you've earned that.
You know, you know what I mean?
You're reducing it further.
If mechanically the reason your car is going to get crushed, if it's a mechanical reason,
engine slash gearbox.
Yeah.
Those cars, they're the ideal cars to convert to electric.
True.
To me, anyway.
Yeah, regardless.
Now, I want to talk 912s for a second, because I sent through to Ajmal a 912 for sale locally here
that had been, and as much as I hate this term, resto modern.
Yeah.
And this is going to be an absolute classic reflection of the value differences between
the UK and Australia on the brand.
Okay.
This car had a 2.5 litre
engine in it.
So it had been rebuilt from a two litre and board.
So it's a 911 engine?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
911 engine.
So six.
Two litre, 911.
She'll have a 9.01 gearbox, same as what Ajmal's got in the, which listeners who aren't aware,
the 9.01 gearbox has a dog leg first, which in reality, when you're in rolling traffic,
is not a bad gearbox, in my opinion.
Fine, yeah.
I actually had one in my 9.14 back in the day.
I think I found it quite good.
But that aside, that's the gearbox in that car.
It was presented beautifully, okay, in slate gray, 356 color, which that was a bit off on
that, I'll be honest with you.
The, I just don't, I'm not a massive fan of 356 colors on 911s, but we're splitting
hairs on nerdity here.
Let's face it.
The, and it had a lovely red and tartan interior.
Compliments the gray.
It does.
It pops would be the word steering wheel could do some work.
It wasn't an Australian delivered car.
It was a South African delivered car, which meant it was a steering wheel still on the
right hand side as our straight, as the Australian cars and UK cars are.
It also meant it was a three.
Yeah.
It was, oh, very likely to be rust free, but being a 912, it wasn't galvanized.
Right.
No, yeah, true.
So sure, very likely to be rust free, but also equally as likely to have problems
that are hidden underneath nice paint and paper macho, not that this, not that at any
point of this car's photography suggested otherwise.
No crash history likes that stuff.
So it presented quite nicely.
Like I said, the steering wheel probably was the biggest let down, but that's a personal
taste that's completely subjective.
And easily changed.
Oh, very easily changed and not even at a great expense.
You know, you put a Prano T-Power on the thing.
It probably cost you $350 Australian.
Or if you're another nice wooden steering wheel that is of the era at most $1,200 Australian
with the boss and everything, right?
So yeah, the car presented beautifully.
The car sold at auction at $133,500 Australian.
So simple maths, Harvard, two pounds, right?
Yeah.
Now, yeah, it's $566,000.
Now, it's not a 9-11.
It's not a 9-12 anymore.
Yep.
It's a driver, which you would have to be of the comparable mindset of which I've just
explained about my 356, about wanting to enjoy driving this car as your mode of transport.
Hmm.
Has zenith carbs.
So its challenges of its age haven't been overcome by putting a relatively modern 3.2
litre motor in it or anything like that.
We're still dealing with comparable challenges to it still being a 9-12.
Yep.
Right.
With more power, don't get me wrong, it's probably got a better part of almost 200 horsepower
in the thing at the wheels compared to the close to 90 at the wheels that a 9-12 would have.
So it'd be quite a dynamic car, I'd imagine.
But nonetheless.
What's the scene amount of power for that car?
Nonetheless, it's not one, it's not the other.
To me, and look, it would have cost more money than what it sold for to do this,
the work to this car that had been done.
I've no doubt whatsoever.
And I don't think anyone's selling cars, I just think they're going to come out ahead.
So the seller must have, would have been very conscious of the fact that,
you know, they've put probably the better part of $200,000 into this car's restoration
to get it to the point that it's at.
And it was beautiful, great looking car.
Look, the stands could do some work, but that's two hours work.
You know, to make the thing look amazing.
But yeah, it's, it's easy to say, well, that's actually the market value mark,
that's what it's sold for.
I'm surprised the market value is that high.
How's it going?
Yeah, I mean, it would, the reason I can only think is that someone was after something
that specific.
Because there were full bidders towards the end on the auction.
Yeah, still.
But someone, there were several people.
Yeah, still, it's, it's kind of niche, isn't it?
Because you either, most of the time you either want a 912, because it's a 912 and
everything that a 912 means, or you want a 911 and all things that means.
And there's an element of, well, whatever I pay for it, I don't really want to lose out.
So I'm hopefully paying the current market rate, but in the future it might be worth a little bit
anything pretending it's a 911.
Why would you do that?
There's quite a famous 912 that's been rested and modded into a 911 type
car here in Perth, owned by, actually you might have heard of him, a guy called Dan Riccardo.
Yeah, sounds familiar.
Yeah, yeah.
So he's got a nice green one, right?
And look, it is a stunner.
This car is just, you know, any grown man with any semblance of appreciation of the brand,
he's going to have really tight pants in the front when he walks faster, right?
So it is absolutely stunning this car.
This gray one would have been 70% of that.
But look, as the comparison, if you want a long hood 911 body with a six cylinder engine in it,
this actually, its sell price is quite cheap here in Australia.
Like long hood cars, if you want a coupe, not a target, right?
There aren't many long hoods itself for less than $200,000 anymore.
I can't remember the last time I saw one.
So all of a sudden, if you don't have the badges out on the car,
not many people know it's a 912.
You know, body.
This is the thing.
So my, the badges for mine are somewhere up there.
Yeah, I can see them.
Yeah, behind you.
And I'm just debating whether I should put them on.
I think you should.
I think it's got kudos.
I think so too, because they're missing both off the back and off the glovebox.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And if you know, you know, you're right.
Yeah, exactly.
And when I got it, for some reason, the, you know, because the pre, well, the 912s,
the badge is to the right and just above where it says Porsche along the back.
Sure.
Declared.
Yep.
And the later ones had it with the different fonts in the middle.
Yeah, it depends on the size, right?
Yeah.
So mine, when I look at the underside of the deck lid, the holes are there for the correct one.
But it had the badge at the top with the wrong.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So I've taken that off and binned it, but I haven't drilled, re-drilled the holes that have been
blocked up.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
Give it to the next owner to do.
Oh, I kind of want to put it back on.
It won't affect the resale price as well.
You're going to get rid of it.
Yeah, true.
And I just did that thing where, you know, there's along the sill, there's like a
brushed metal trim with a rubber bit in the middle to match the front.
Yep, yep, yep.
Mine doesn't have it on either side.
It's just probably painted no holes, no nothing.
And I bought, I bought them.
So I bought two brand new ones.
Sure.
I don't know why.
I don't know why I did that.
I just saw them come out.
It's because deep down, you know, you're going to keep the cap.
No, no, no.
And I bought them probably because, you know, when I was looking for that piece of trim
for the door cap on the 964, it was like 40,000 or over the place.
And it was like £2.94 on GSF, German Swedish French.
And so on that same website, they had this piece of trim and they're not listed as,
oh, it's the, it's the Siltrim for a 912 or a 911, because it's the same one.
And it's the same for that little plastic door cap.
So you just put in the part number and it comes up that it's for sale.
And instead of being 125 quid on design 911 or wherever, it's £65.
So you bought it?
So I bought it.
And then I waited because they only had one in stock.
So then I waited like two months to get the other one as well.
And now I'm like, oh, I'm going to have to drill holes in the sill to make it fit.
Should I do that?
Or should I just give it with the car when I sell it?
Just give it with the car when you sell it.
Yeah.
I just need to find the right person who's just going to come and take it.
So I don't have to like fire him up.
Rint.
That is, you're right.
I'll call Brian.
Give him a call.
Give him a call.
He's waiting for your call.
In fact, he's probably listed.
Brian, can you call as well?
I feel like, I feel like he's moved away from 912.
So he has, he so has not moved away from 912.
He's, he's on the 964.
He's selling a 964.
Yeah.
Good on him.
But he's also, he's also got like three boxed to cup cars or whatever they call,
you know, and so he's all over the shop.
Just, I'm telling you, Brian, you go.
Yeah.
Or I'm going to have to ring him.
No, he'll ring you after this.
Now, we're, we're running out of time today.
I'd like to briefly get an update on what's going on with that car you used to own.
Well, the nine and six.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, so how long ago did we speak?
Was it, uh, how long ago did we last speak?
Ah, a month ago, six weeks ago.
Six weeks ago.
Yeah.
Nothing's happened since I've spoken to Jack.
So really?
Yeah.
So he was away for a bit and he said, oh, I'll chase because he's got,
obviously got to get a replacement head.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
The head was the problem.
It's on.
Yeah.
So you have not caught up with him since.
You're too skinny.
Now you've got the bill.
Uh, well, I mean, I've, I've paid for the parts, which is a part from the head.
Yeah.
Which is like five and a bit thousand pounds.
That's just the parts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I get it.
But you see his labor bill is coming down the chute.
Yeah.
That, that's coming.
Um, and okay, it's going to be a massive bill, but I do want it back.
I do want to be driving it.
Then call him because I need to, and I need to tell him things like,
can you change the dryer for the air conditioning?
Can you change as a seal on one of the joints for the air conditioning?
Can you change that like, um, an o-ring?
And then, you know, in theory, it should just, everything should work perfectly.
Oh, I love theories.
Oh God, theories are good.
Oh, so I want to, I want to be able to just drive it everywhere.
I want to, I want it like, it should be like brand new.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Okay.
This can be good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that, that I'll give you posted.
I'm going to go and see him soon.
Good to hear.
So listeners, if you've got any comments or feedback from Ajmal and I on today's show.
Or if you want to buy a 912.
Oh yeah.
If you want to buy a 912, Brian.
The, um, please reach out to Ajmal, flat cap driver on Instagram.
Me, mark in cars, it's mark with a C.
Please don't hesitate or feedback generally on what sort of shit job we're doing here
or what sort of good job we're doing here.
We'd love to hear from you or anything else to do with your Porsche journey.
Ajmal, it's been a while since we've had a guest.
Do we need one?
Right.
Well, obviously you completely fill that, you know, requirement.
But look, potentially we do, potentially we don't.
But I've got to couple up my sleeve.
I've been holding out to a sort of trick and try and get into some sort of routine.
Oh, okay.
I haven't thought about it.
So I might have to think of them as well.
Look, I've got some people up my sleeve.
Love to take the opportunity.
Listen, let us know if you'd like to hear from any guest,
because you're sick of hearing our rambling.
If you are, get it.
Ajmal, again, it's been a pleasure.
Thank you very much for the show today.
And we look forward to hearing the starting up of your 996.
Next time, hopefully.
Fingers crossed.
Thanks, everyone.
Talk soon.
About this episode
From GT3 pricing and Porsche’s strategy to keep the 911 character, to the upcoming 911-based GT4 and how owners talk in shorthand, the hosts connect market forces with enthusiast identity. The conversation then pivots into real ownership: naming cars, dealing with slow Speedster roofs, and practical garage troubleshooting on a 964 (including corrosion at a cut-off terminal). Along the way they debate “tool vs passion,” classic-car drivability, and even fuel-smell mysteries tied to a six-volt pump.
In a veiled attempt at getting back to some routine uploads, The Boys are talking about their cars again, and the inevitable subjectivity surrounding the new GT3 S/C.
Is it aspirational for you? Will it be remembered fondly in years to come?
This and the typical whole lot of nonsense surrounding our favourite brand.
