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Real vs. Virtual Driving, No More Clutch?, The New One Is Better | Episode 1,043

Real vs. Virtual Driving, No More Clutch?, The New One Is Better | Episode 1,043

Everyday Driver Car Debate Apr 28, 2026 97 min
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Hyundai and Kia’s latest concepts spark a big debate about where car interiors are headed, with huge screens, minimalist cabins, and “immersive” modes that simulate shifting and driving sensations. The hosts worry manufacturers are drifting toward virtual experiences instead of making cars genuinely fun to operate. The discussion also touches on Kia’s evolving design language, the Ioniq 5 N’s fake-but-effective performance tricks, and whether brands can satisfy both enthusiasts and mainstream buyers without turning cars into pods.

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Car

Honda Civic

"Hopefully you've seen our K-4, almost hatch versus the Civic Sport Touring. But this is a piece when the K-4 almost hatch came out, because we're not getting the actual sports wagon that is available in Europe."

Honda’s Civic Sport Touring is a higher-trim Civic aimed at balancing everyday comfort with a more premium feel. Trim names like “Sport Touring” usually indicate added features (often including better infotainment, comfort items, and sometimes more performance-oriented tuning depending on generation).

Concept

sports wagon

"But this is a piece when the K-4 almost hatch came out, because we're not getting the actual sports wagon that is available in Europe. We're not getting that in North America."

A “sports wagon” is a performance-oriented station wagon—typically with a sportier suspension setup and sometimes more powerful engines—while still offering the practicality of a wagon. The hosts are pointing out that Europe may get these variants, but North America often doesn’t, which affects what enthusiasts can buy locally.

Concept

wagons keep dying

"We're not getting that in North America. Because apparently wagons keep dying and then they don't. And they just don't get offered here."

They mean that wagons haven’t been selling well enough to keep being offered. If not many people buy them, companies stop bringing them to the market.

Car

Hyundai Ioniq

"The recently introduced Ioniq V. We've got the Ioniq V, so we've got the Ioniq V for the Chinese market only."

The Hyundai Ioniq V is a new electric car Hyundai is planning for China. The big takeaway here is that Hyundai is changing how the cabin looks and feels, not just the powertrain.

Term

800 volt platform

"The only thing we know it's got 600 kilometers or about 372 miles of range, apparently, an 800 volt platform."

“800 volt” is an electrical system design in the EV. Higher voltage can help the car charge faster and manage power more efficiently, especially on the right fast chargers.

Concept

EV experience

"So EV, but it's all about the experience, the future experience."

They’re talking about the “experience” side of EVs—how the car feels inside and how easy it is to use. With EVs, the cabin design and screens often matter as much as the battery range.

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legroom

"They certainly do. Legroom is a very big deal, and having a lot of legroom in the rear,"

Legroom is how much space there is for your legs. The hosts are saying rear-seat legroom is a big deal for this kind of car and market.

Brand

Tesla

"This is a variation on what Tesla does. Let me be honest, this is a very stark interior with one massive screen..."

Tesla is being used as the comparison point for how EVs can be designed inside. They’re saying this Hyundai’s interior layout feels similar to Tesla’s big-screen style.

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one massive screen

"Let me be honest, this is a very stark interior with one massive screen that is hugely letterbox..."

This is the “big screen” dashboard style where most controls and info are shown on one display. It can look clean and modern, but you may need to interact with menus more than with physical buttons.

Concept

letterbox screen effect

"...one massive screen that is hugely letterbox that starts, for those of you who can't see it, it starts over the center console..."

They’re describing the screen shape and how it looks—kind of like the black bars you see on some movies. That look can change how easy it is to read and how the dashboard feels.

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driver does not have a screen in front of them

"...it sweeps all the way in front of the passengers. The driver does not have a screen in front of them."

They’re saying the driver doesn’t get a separate screen directly ahead. Instead, the main information is probably shown on the big central display, so the driver has to look more toward the middle.

Concept

minimalist interior design

"It's that minimalist thing, which we've all been supposed to be convinced that it means luxurious, and it really means cheaper to make."

They’re talking about minimalist car interiors, where the cabin looks clean and simple. Some people call that “luxury,” but the host thinks it’s often just cheaper for the manufacturer to make. The idea is that fewer physical pieces can reduce cost.

Concept

screen-focused interior design

"because everything is focused on screens, the interior experience, that has not led up for production cars, and apparently this is where things are going."

The hosts are criticizing the trend toward putting most of the driver information and controls on large screens. In practice, this can change how quickly drivers can find key functions, and it can also make the cabin feel more “tech product” than traditional vehicle. The segment frames this as a shift in the interior experience that may not translate well to real production cars.

Brand

Kia Global Design

"So I move to the new concept from Kia, the executive vice president and head of Kia Global Design, Karim Habib."

They mention Kia’s design leadership team. The point is that Kia has a global group that decides what the brand’s future look and feel should be. That matters because the hosts are judging whether the “future” design actually looks good in practice.

Concept

immersive digital experience

"with the limitless possibilities of an immersive digital experience. I see very little of that in this photo, but okay."

They’re using a phrase that basically means “the cabin feels like a digital experience.” The host is saying they don’t see much of that in the photos and is worried it might not actually be better once it’s in real cars. It’s a commentary on how marketing language meets real design.

Car

Toyota Prius

"Which looks like a Prius. I have to keep saying it."

They’re comparing the new Hyundai’s shape to the Toyota Prius. That’s basically saying it has a similar “efficient, aerodynamic” look. It doesn’t mean it’s the same car—just that the styling reminds them of the Prius.

Concept

experience modes

"And then here is the interior, giving you three distinct experience modes. Speedster, Dreamer, and Gamer. These are modes."

Experience modes are different settings you can choose in a car. They change how the car feels and responds, like switching between different “personalities” for the drive.

Concept

immersive user experience

"It's modes that enhance the highly immersive user experience according to the driving environment and scenario."

“Immersive” here means the car tries to pull you in with more engaging screens and controls. The idea is to make the cabin feel like part of the driving experience, not just transportation.

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joystick

"And you'll notice in this photo, there is a joystick that is part of the driver's seat."

A joystick is a handheld-style control that can move in different directions. In this concept, it’s used to control the car’s functions in a more interactive, futuristic way.

Concept

simulate gear shifts

"but you're able to switch modes and simulate gear shifts. So everything about the future experience is what we all like about the old school stuff."

Simulating gear shifts means the car can mimic the feel or cues of changing gears without a traditional manual gearbox action. This is often done in EVs or automated drivetrains to give drivers familiar feedback, even when the powertrain doesn’t operate like a conventional transmission.

Concept

self-driving

"There's little verbiage about self-driving, and you're just going to sit there and look at your phone while the outside world is whatever it's doing."

Self-driving means the car does most of the driving for you. The hosts are saying that if the car drives itself, it might be less fun or less engaging for the person inside.

Car

Ioniq 5

"I mean, I hope that they actually make some decent cars to drive. Watch our Ioniq 5-In versus Ferrari piece, which was on purpose a weird dichotomy of two things."

The Hyundai Ioniq 5 is an electric car. The hosts mention it as part of a comparison video, likely contrasting a normal, tech-forward EV with a more traditional performance car.

Concept

simulate some of the things about driving

"Because what Hyundai taught us, taught us all, is that they can simulate some of the things about driving and it can work, okay? To follow that is the prelude that's now trying to do it,"

They mean cars using computers to copy the sensations you’d normally get from a gas engine. The question is whether that makes driving more fun—or just makes it feel fake.

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gear shifts that aren't gear shifts

"which is also all fakery in their gear shifts that aren't gear shifts. They're just changing the idle level of the engine, essentially."

The hosts are describing “simulated” gear changes—common on some EVs—where the car changes sound and/or control behavior to imitate shifting, even though the drivetrain may not actually be changing gears. This can create a familiar sensation without the mechanical event of a traditional transmission shift.

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idle level of the engine

"They're just changing the idle level of the engine, essentially. It's true."

They’re basically saying the car is changing the “baseline” behavior to make it feel like something is happening. On an electric car, that usually means changing sound and power delivery rather than a real engine idling.

Concept

VR headset

"the sun is setting, it's a nice, idyllic kind of evening, right? And my son is over there in silence, except he's got the VR headset on and headphones on, and he's having a whole experience that has nothing to do with the world around him."

They’re comparing the car to VR—something that can pull your attention away from the real world. Their point is that they don’t want driving to feel like a game that disconnects you from what’s around you.

Concept

being a car isn't good enough

"It's almost like car companies continue to explore the theme of, well, just being a car isn't good enough. Fair point."

The point is that today’s buyers often want more than “it drives.” They want the car to offer something extra—like fun, comfort, or a certain vibe.

Concept

enthusiast drivers

"Because if you were to ask us, we're enthusiast drivers. Hopefully all of you watching are enthusiast drivers as well, and you want something out of your car."

“Enthusiast drivers” are people who care about how a car drives and often seek engagement—handling, feedback, sound, and performance characteristics. In car debates, this group is contrasted with mainstream buyers who prioritize practicality, comfort, or value.

Concept

driving experience category

"But in the driving experience category, you want to have fun driving your car. If it's a minivan, an SUV, a car, a sports car,"

“Driving experience” just means how the car feels to drive. It’s not only about power or speed—it’s about whether the steering, acceleration, and ride are fun and satisfying.

Concept

simulating the driving experience

"But now that you're simulating the driving experience, we've gone all the way to full self-driving."

Simulated driving is when a game or setup tries to copy what it feels like to drive a real car. It can be fun and educational, but it still isn’t the same as driving for real because real cars have real road feel and physics.

Brand

Hyundai and Kia

"And now here's Hyundai and Kia going back to, hmm, the driving experience. And we're harking back to the 1960s, the GT cars, the long road trips."

Hyundai and Kia are big car brands from South Korea. Here, they’re being mentioned in the context of making cars that feel more fun to drive, not just tech-filled.

Concept

harking back to the 1960s, the GT cars, the long road trips

"And we're harking back to the 1960s, the GT cars, the long road trips. And by the way, you get to drive yourself and it's simulated."

“GT cars” are built for comfortable long drives, like road trips. The hosts are basically saying they want that classic, enjoyable driving vibe back.

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no screens

"But do we come back around to, we just built a car. There's no screens. It's got a steering wheel seats, a shifter and an engine."

“No screens” means fewer digital displays and more normal buttons and controls. Some people prefer that because it’s quicker and less distracting while driving.

Car

Toyota Gr86

"...mean, I would love Kia to just build some sort of GR86 rival. That's slightly cheaper."

The GR 86 is a small sports car meant to be fun to drive. It’s usually chosen by people who want performance without spending a lot. The discussion is about whether another car could offer a similar experience for less money.

Concept

volume vs niche sports cars

"Because all of these car companies... they survive on volume. They don't survive on niche sports cars."

They’re saying car companies usually make money by selling a lot of cars, not by making only small numbers of niche sports cars. So the features you get are often designed to appeal to more than just hardcore drivers.

Concept

gamer mode

"And the person that does care about driving can have gamer mode or whatever. I mean, that's the concept is to create, it's back to the skateboard concepts..."

“Gamer mode” is basically a nickname for the car’s sportiest settings. It’s meant to make the car feel more responsive, like you’re controlling it more directly.

Concept

reversible jacket, reversible belt

"Where it's, you make something that the owner can make it whatever they want. It's a reversible jacket, a reversible belt."

They’re comparing the idea of car settings to clothes that can be worn different ways. The point is that different people want different feels, so the car should let you switch it up.

Car

Ioniq 5N

"But what it creates is, and that's the Ioniq 5N, let's be honest. You can drive that as just an EV and it works fine as just an EV."

The Ioniq 5 N is the “sporty” version of Hyundai’s electric Ioniq 5. It’s meant to feel more fun to drive, with settings you can change—though some owners might just use it like a normal EV.

Term

driver modes

"I wonder how many people... have bought the Ioniq 5N and then don't use the driver modes. Just use it like an EV that's a performance EV with good suspension."

Driver modes are like different “personalities” the car can switch between. They change how the car feels when you press the pedal and how the car manages grip and power.

Concept

virtual thing where you're not actually enjoying driving

"But I'm just worried about this whole virtual thing where you're not actually enjoying driving, but it's been simulated for you. Here's a last photo of the immersive experience."

They’re talking about how driving in real life feels different from driving in a simulator. The host is basically saying real driving has real feedback that simulations may not capture.

Company

Powerstop Brakes

"For all our adventures this year, we've upgraded our cars with brake kits from Powerstop Brakes. Powerstop offers reliable, durable upgrade kits for nearly every vehicle on the road."

Powerstop Brakes makes aftermarket brake parts. The hosts are saying their kits can help your car stop better and can also reduce how messy the brakes get.

Part

brake kits

"For all our adventures this year, we've upgraded our cars with brake kits from Powerstop Brakes. Powerstop offers reliable, durable upgrade kits for nearly every vehicle on the road."

A brake kit is a set of brake parts sold together, usually including rotors and pads. It’s meant to improve stopping and is chosen to fit your specific car.

Part

carbon fiber ceramic pads

"Their drilled and slotted rotors keep brake temperatures low and carbon fiber ceramic pads give improved stopping power with less brake dust."

Carbon fiber ceramic pads are a type of aftermarket brake pad material designed to improve braking performance while producing less brake dust than many conventional pads. They’re often marketed for better pedal feel and cleaner wheels, especially for daily driving.

Term

brake temperatures low

"Their drilled and slotted rotors keep brake temperatures low and carbon fiber ceramic pads give improved stopping power with less brake dust."

When brakes get too hot, they can stop working as well. The idea here is that cooler brakes keep your stopping power more consistent.

Term

brake dust

"Their drilled and slotted rotors keep brake temperatures low and carbon fiber ceramic pads give improved stopping power with less brake dust."

Brake dust is the gritty powder that builds up on your wheels as you brake. Some brake pads make more of it than others, so choosing the right pads can keep wheels cleaner.

Part

drilled and slotted rotors

"Their drilled and slotted rotors keep brake temperatures low and carbon fiber ceramic pads give improved stopping power with less brake dust."

Drilled and slotted rotors have holes and grooves on the rotor surface. They help the brakes run cooler and can help the pad clean itself during hard stops.

Company

Powerstop.com

"Visit Powerstop.com and use their brake finder today, right now. Stop the podcast."

PowerStop sells replacement brake parts. Their website tool helps you pick the correct brake parts for your exact car so you don’t buy the wrong fit.

Car

BMW 7 Series

"Speaking of car companies that give their customers what they think they want, BMW has redesigned completely the new 7 Series. They've refreshed it to the Neue Class design language."

The BMW 7 Series is BMW’s top-tier luxury sedan. The hosts are talking about how BMW updated it—both the look and what it’s trying to offer buyers.

Term

Neue Class design language

"They've refreshed it to the Neue Class design language. Wait, no they didn't. Is that really their commentary on this photo?"

“Neue Klasse” is BMW’s idea of a new design direction. The hosts are basically saying they can’t clearly see that new design theme in the photo.

Term

beaver teeth

"Because it still has the beaver teeth and looks every bit as ugly. Okay. No, no, no."

“Beaver teeth” is a joking nickname for a grille that has lots of sharp-looking vertical bars. They’re saying the grille looks ugly, even if it’s a little less offensive than before.

Concept

electric range

"The fully electric models have a significantly longer electric range that now extends to 447 miles."

Electric range is how many miles an EV can drive before it needs charging. Here, they’re saying the newer electric versions can go farther on one charge.

Term

M70X drive

"The M70X drive has 608 horsepower, 748 pound-feet of torque. By the way, Lucid Air has already done that."

This sounds like a top, high-power BMW electric version. They’re quoting its power and torque to show it’s meant to be quick.

Term

horsepower

"The M70X drive has 608 horsepower, 748 pound-feet of torque. Lucid Airs are also quite powerful and pretty fast."

Horsepower is a way to describe how strong the motor is. More horsepower usually means the car can accelerate harder, especially when paired with good torque.

Term

pound-feet of torque

"The M70X drive has 608 horsepower, 748 pound-feet of torque. Lucid Airs are also quite powerful and pretty fast."

Torque is the force that gets the car moving. EVs typically have a lot of torque right away, which helps with quick starts.

Concept

Neue Class style

"[756.0s] And they've redesigned. [757.3s] So the Neue Class style. [758.8s] The interior, I see it."

“Neue Klasse” is BMW’s way of saying they’re moving to a new design direction. Here, it’s basically shorthand for the newer BMW interior and tech look they’re showing off.

Term

four spoke steering wheel

"[759.6s] The interior is different. [760.7s] They've got the four spoke steering wheel here. [762.6s] They've got the trapezoidal screens, adding screens, adding the immersive experience."

A “four spoke steering wheel” just means the steering wheel has four main sections (spokes) coming out from the center. It’s mostly a styling detail, but it can also change where buttons and controls are placed.

Term

trapezoidal screens

"[762.6s] They've got the trapezoidal screens, adding screens, adding the immersive experience. [766.1s] BMW and Mercedes are the kings of immersion. [769.4s] You see it here."

“Trapezoidal screens” means the screens on the dashboard aren’t just rectangles—they have a slanted, wider/ narrower shape. The hosts are pointing out that the screen design helps make the cabin feel more high-tech and engaging.

Concept

immersion

"[766.1s] BMW and Mercedes are the kings of immersion. [769.4s] You see it here. [773.2s] I'll see that."

“Immersion” here means the car’s interior feels like a complete experience, not just a place to sit. They’re talking about how screens and luxury features are arranged to make you feel more connected to what the car is doing.

Term

giant screen in the rear

"[776.7s] Here is the rear seats. [778.1s] And remember, BMW was obsessed with that giant screen in the rear, but immersion into all [783.6s] of the features and the luxury."

This is a big screen mounted for rear passengers. It’s usually for entertainment or controlling features, and it’s meant to make the back seat feel more like a premium lounge.

Term

headlights

"And keep in mind, the headlights are not where you think they are. Of course they are. They're down here. And same thing on the new car. They're down here."

This segment highlights a common modern design trick: the visible “light-looking” elements on the bumper may not be the actual headlamp units. The hosts point out that the real headlights are positioned lower than the grille/vent shapes suggest, which affects how you interpret the car’s front-end design.

Concept

Neue Class styling

"Let me just remind everyone what the Neue Class styling is. I think it's absolutely brilliant. Looks great."

“Neue Klasse” is BMW’s design theme for a new generation of cars. It’s basically the brand’s way of making the front of the car look different and more modern, even if some details (like lights) don’t match where you think they should be.

Term

PHEV

"[856.3s] Would look great. [856.7s] Two PHEV variants and three M performance models. [860.1s] Here's the versions that I counted."

PHEV means the car is a plug-in hybrid. You can charge it like an EV, and it also has a gas engine for longer trips when the battery runs low.

Car

BMW i3

"[888.0s] I thought it was just going to be a large i3. [891.5s] And we were going to call it done."

They mention the BMW i3 because it’s a distinctive-looking BMW electric car. They’re saying they expected the new car to look like a bigger version of that, but it doesn’t.

Term

BMW kidney iconic glow

"[898.1s] The BMW kidney iconic glow and minimalist crystal headlights. [902.1s] Give the car a visually impactful presence."

BMW’s “kidneys” are the grille shape at the front of the car. Here, they’re talking about it being lit up, so it looks brighter and more noticeable.

Term

reduced surfaces character line

"[920.6s] The side view impresses with reduced surfaces character line and classy details while the [924.8s] rear ends shaped by newly designed lights in clear forms."

A character line is a crease in the car’s body that helps it look more sculpted. They’re saying the new design uses simpler shapes so that line stands out more.

Term

rear lights

"[927.6s] Let's talk about the rear lights. [928.8s] Here's the old. [929.4s] Here's the new."

The hosts pivot to “rear lights,” comparing “the old” versus “the new.” Tail light design is a major part of how a facelift or new generation reads visually, often changing the light signature even if the body shape is similar.

Car

2011 Lincoln MKZ

"What you've done is you've made a 2011 Lincoln MKZ rear lights that were not successful here. It does look a little like that... And I didn't think the MKZ was successful."

The Lincoln MKZ is a Lincoln sedan. They’re talking about how the rear lights looked on the 2011 model and saying the design didn’t really work.

Concept

mid-cycle refresh

"This is this is like a big mid-cycle refresh is what this really is... Without being a new generation and they did a lot of interior stuff."

A mid-cycle refresh is an update automakers do partway through a model’s life—usually to keep the car competitive without redesigning it completely. Hosts describe this as a “big” refresh that includes interior changes, but not a full new generation.

Term

ginormous instrument panel

"Mercedes has introduced the new C-Class EV unveiled with a ginormous instrument panel. It's a single screen."

They mean the dashboard looks like it’s mostly a big screen. Instead of lots of separate gauges, the car shows information digitally.

Car

Mercedes C-Class EV

"Mercedes has introduced the new C-Class EV unveiled with a ginormous instrument panel. It's a single screen... There's nothing about this side profile that says this is a Mercedes."

This is an electric Mercedes-Benz C-Class. They’re talking about how the dashboard is dominated by a big screen and how the outside shape could look like lots of other brands.

Term

single screen

"It's a single screen. I hoped you'd bring this up. This is even more screens than I thought possible."

They’re saying the car uses one big display instead of multiple smaller ones. That can make the interior feel more modern and less cluttered.

Brand

Audi

"It could be Audi. Yes. Yes. Here's the rear and you start to see that signature."

Audi is a luxury car brand from Germany. Here, they’re basically saying the car’s shape and details look like something Audi would do.

Term

pixelation

"Here's the front grille with all of the pixelation. Very clear to me. That's a Mercedes because the grille is all about the Mercedes logos."

“Pixelation” here refers to how the grille and lighting details can look in photos or video due to resolution, compression, or camera processing. It’s not a car feature by itself, but it affects how accurately you can identify styling cues from images.

Term

light carpet

"I couldn't find a good picture of the light carpet that the doors cast onto the ground when you get out from the LED lights underneath the doors. The light carpet. I couldn't find any good photos. We're going to have to drive this and take photos of the light carpet."

“Light carpet” just means the glowing pattern on the ground when you open the door. It’s usually made by the door lights and can look like a logo or design.

Term

LED lights underneath the doors

"I couldn't find a good picture of the light carpet that the doors cast onto the ground when you get out from the LED lights underneath the doors. The light carpet. I couldn't find any good photos."

LED puddle lights are small light sources mounted near the door that project illumination onto the ground when you open the door. They’re often used for visibility and a premium “welcome” effect.

Concept

on-device AI

"Mercedes announced a multi-year partnership with Liquid AI to scale embedded on-device intelligent from Mercedes-Benz models... designed to advance the performance of real-time private and local AI experiences for onboard services at scale..."

On-device AI means the car thinks using its own computer. That can make responses faster and keep more of the interaction private.

Brand

Mercedes-Benz

"Mercedes announced a multi-year partnership with Liquid AI to scale embedded on-device intelligent from Mercedes-Benz models with third and fourth generation M-Bucks in North America."

Mercedes-Benz is talking about teaming up with a tech company to upgrade the car’s built-in computer. The idea is that the car’s voice/AI features will work better and feel more “smart” while you’re driving.

Company

Liquid AI

"There's a circular vent on the left by the driver. Everything between those vents at the extreme is one huge screen. Mercedes announced a multi-year partnership with Liquid AI to scale embedded on-device intelligent..."

Liquid AI is a tech company that’s helping Mercedes-Benz make the car’s built-in AI smarter. That usually means the car can understand and respond faster using its own systems.

Term

M-Bucks

"...third and fourth generation M-Bucks in North America. This partnership is designed to advance the performance of real-time private and local AI experiences for onboard services at scale enabling the next generation of in-car intelligence."

M-Bucks sounds like Mercedes-Benz’s name for the car’s “assistant” software platform. They’re saying newer generations make it better at understanding you and controlling car features.

Concept

in-car intelligence

"This partnership is designed to advance the performance of real-time private and local AI experiences for onboard services at scale enabling the next generation of in-car intelligence. They keep saying, gives customers value and it's intelligence."

“In-car intelligence” means the car’s system is trying to do more than play media or show maps. It’s meant to understand what’s going on and help you while you drive.

Concept

marketing speak

"You know what I hear when you read that? Ads are coming. When I hear you read that, it just says to me in marketing speak, ads are coming."

The host is saying the company’s language sounds vague and salesy. They’re implying that the new screen setup might be used to show ads.

Concept

edge-to-edge screen

"If you haven't seen this yet, you have to look it up because it is edge-to-edge screen. Got a few more images here. With vents on the edges and it is, I cannot believe it."

An edge-to-edge screen means the display takes up almost the whole dashboard area. Instead of lots of buttons and gauges, you mostly interact with the screen.

Term

camera looking into the passenger compartment

"It is just a screen. See what's front and center is a camera looking into the passenger compartment. Yes. Right above the screen."

That camera is pointed inside the car to watch what’s happening with the people in it. It can help the car know where you are and what you’re doing, which can power safety or convenience features.

Concept

serve up ads

"It's going to search the surrounding area and serve up ads. Of course it will. 100% correct."

“Serve up ads” means the car could show advertisements or promotions based on where you are. In this case, it’s tied to the car knowing your context while you’re on the road.

Concept

listening to your conversations

"...and be listening to your conversations and almost involved in them when you talk to the car and you want to know EV charge stations, you want to know food, you want to know anything."

They’re suggesting the car could pick up what people are saying inside it. That could let the car suggest things like food or charging, but it also raises privacy concerns.

Concept

EV charge stations

"...and be listening to your conversations and almost involved in them when you talk to the car and you want to know EV charge stations, you want to know food, you want to know anything."

EV charge stations are places where you plug in an electric car to recharge. The idea here is that the car (or its connected system) can find nearby charging options and suggest them while you’re driving.

Concept

connected to a credit card already in your wallet

"...it will serve up locations and ads and discounts and it might be connected to a credit card already in your wallet. It might be."

This means your car could potentially pay for things automatically using your saved payment info. Instead of you entering details each time, the car could handle it for you.

Term

nav

"Then when you touch the one you want to go to, it automatically goes to the nav."

“Nav” means the car’s GPS navigation. It helps you pick a destination and then guides you along the route.

Concept

entire dashboard that is a screen

"But do we want to have an entire dashboard that is a screen? ... why are we, we're now driving down the road in our living room. We're sitting on the couch looking at a TV screen."

Some cars are moving toward dashboards that are basically big screens instead of normal dials and buttons. That can be convenient, but it can also pull your eyes away from the road more often.

Concept

visual distraction

"By the way, there's windows there that somebody needs to be paying attention to."

If you spend too much time looking at screens, it can make it harder to watch the road and other cars. That’s why people worry about distraction from big displays.

Concept

virtual driving

"I have less issue honestly with the potential intelligence and interactivity of this than I do with the wall to wall screen."

“Virtual driving” is when the car feels more like a video game or tablet than a traditional machine. The worry is that the big screens and apps can pull your attention away from the road.

Term

wall to wall screen

"Here's the wall to wall screen. It's the seamless M bucks hyper screen, a thousand LEDs surround navigation, 39.1 inches."

It’s basically a huge screen that stretches across the dashboard. Instead of having separate gauges and a separate infotainment screen, the car uses one big display to show everything.

Term

interactive

"I don't think anything goes on here for the standard version because the super screen now that's interactive. You're right. That is. That's where the ads are going to serve up."

“Interactive” means the screen isn’t just showing information—it can be used like a device. You can tap, swipe, and run apps, which can make it feel more like a tablet than a car display.

Concept

one giant screen

"If we go back to anything less than a glass panel with screens... is you can't even see out the front windshield. It's just one giant screen and it's cameras..."

They’re talking about dashboards that are basically all screens. In the extreme version, cameras replace the normal windows so you “see out” using a display instead of glass.

Term

cameras

"It's just one giant screen and it's cameras and pole stars got rid of the rear window. How long do we get rid of the front window?"

Instead of looking through windows, the car can use cameras outside and show the view on a screen inside. That can let designers remove some glass and still show you what’s behind or ahead.

Brand

pole stars

"It's just one giant screen and it's cameras and pole stars got rid of the rear window."

Polestar is an electric-car brand. They’re being referenced as an example of a company that’s experimenting with replacing traditional windows with camera views.

Concept

projection

"I could do a projection... It's just a projection. Are we headed there with cars?"

Instead of a normal window, the car could use a projector to show you what the cameras see. It’s like turning the inside of the car into a display that looks like the outside.

Concept

analog watch with actual gauges

"There'll be those like the folks that want the analog... this is the Apple watch... want an analog watch with actual gauges..."

They’re contrasting screens with traditional physical dials. Some people prefer real gauges because they’re easier to read quickly and don’t depend on menus or screen settings.

Term

pre-safe curve function

"It's a pre-safe curve function and it tightens the seatbelt. If you come in just a little bit too hot in a corner, the seatbelt goes some sort of sound place over the speakers."

This is a safety system that tries to “see trouble” before it happens in a corner. If you’re going in too fast, it tightens your seatbelt and gives you a warning to help you slow down.

Term

seatbelt goes some sort of sound place over the speakers

"If you come in just a little bit too hot in a corner, the seatbelt goes some sort of sound place over the speakers. I'm reading the actual description here that this is the best sentence ever."

The description points to an integrated warning strategy: the car tightens the seatbelt and also issues an audible alert through the cabin speakers. This combines haptic (seatbelt tension) and audio cues to get the driver’s attention quickly.

Concept

EV

"We've talked about the Ferrari Luce, the EV coming. [1523.9s] It is supposed to be unveiled in Rome on Monday, May 25th, 2026. [1528.3s] That's Memorial Day in the US."

EV stands for electric vehicle—cars powered primarily by an electric motor and a battery pack instead of a gasoline engine. When hosts discuss EV pricing and “plug it in,” they’re talking about how electricity replaces fuel and how charging logistics affect ownership.

Car

Ferrari Luce

"We've talked about the Ferrari Luce, the EV coming. [1523.9s] It is supposed to be unveiled in Rome on Monday, May 25th, 2026. [1528.3s] That's Memorial Day in the US. [1530.4s] We are just as eager as you to find out what it looks like and exactly why it's expected"

They’re talking about a future Ferrari electric car called the “Luce.” They mention it’s expected to be revealed in Rome and that it’s likely to cost a lot of money.

Concept

plug it in

"I've said already they're going to have trouble moving these and they're going to drop like stones. [1551.8s] If you'd never have to plug it in or something and it turns it, it's like the Ferrari perpetual [1555.1s] motion machine or something."

They’re talking about charging an electric car by plugging it into power. The point is that charging is a hassle, and they’re joking about an EV that would never need it.

Concept

perpetual motion machine

"If you'd never have to plug it in or something and it turns it, it's like the Ferrari perpetual [1555.1s] motion machine or something. [1556.2s] There you go."

They’re using a joke about “perpetual motion,” meaning something that would keep going forever without needing anything. They’re comparing that to the dream of an EV that never needs to be charged.

Term

spark plugs

"Instead of like change your spark plugs every 100,000 miles, it's now plug it in every 100,000 miles and you otherwise never need to."

Spark plugs are what make the engine’s “spark” to start combustion. If they last longer, you don’t have to replace them as often.

Car

Lucid Air Sapphire

"The Lucid Air Sapphire is almost a quarter million dollar car. Yeah. I don't know what else you need from speed or range or comfort or tech that the Lucid Air Sapphire can't give you that actually came out in 2024."

The Lucid Air Sapphire is a top-tier electric sedan from Lucid. In this segment, they’re saying it’s impressive in the real world—like how it feels to drive and how “full-featured” it is—despite the big price tag.

Concept

used bargain

"But then also going back to Lucid, you can get those Lucids for a song now. That's where the used bargain is for sure."

A used bargain means you can buy a car for a lot less than it used to cost. With some new, pricey EVs, the price drops faster than people expect.

Concept

used value in a year

"No matter how amazing this is, what is its actual used value in a year? Somebody buys one and there are people that buy them."

This is basically asking: if you buy a car today, what will it be worth after about a year? That tells you how much money you’ll likely lose to depreciation.

Concept

trickle down in cost

"Because Ferraris in general, they trickle down in cost. True. They trickle down."

“Trickle down in cost” describes how certain cars tend to depreciate gradually over time rather than dropping sharply. The hosts contrast this with desirability effects—some models can hold value better or even rise for a period on the used market.

Concept

EVs have shown us anything, it's a race to the bottom

"Because if EVs have shown us anything, it's a race to the bottom. In a completely unrelated note..."

“Race to the bottom” is a market concept meaning EV makers compete aggressively on price, often compressing margins and forcing companies to cut costs or rethink strategies. The hosts use it to frame why EV investments and partnerships may be changing rapidly.

Car

Lucid EVs

"We will both own Lucid EVs because we will have bought them for $10,000 and we'll be doing a full series on Ferraris Lucid EVs..."

Lucid is a company that makes electric cars. The hosts are saying they’ll review Lucid EVs and compare what you pay to how good they are to live with and drive.

Brand

Porsche

"...literally the news that they were recording this is that Porsche is getting out of Bugatti..."

Porsche is the automaker discussed as exiting a stake and rethinking its EV strategy. The segment frames Porsche’s move as part of a broader “reset” cycle in the EV industry, where companies adjust investments based on costs and results.

Company

Bugatti Remock Combination Company

"They have a 45% stake in the Bugatti Remock Combination Company, run by Mate Remock."

They’re talking about a specific business partnership involving Bugatti and a company connected to “Remock.” The important part is that Porsche owned part of it, then sold its share, which the hosts see as evidence that EV plans are changing quickly.

Company

Mate Remock

"...run by Mate Remock. ... I was thinking about the 9-11 GTS Hybrid we drove that had the battery built by Remock."

Mate Remock is mentioned as the operator of the “Bugatti Remock Combination Company.” Later, the hosts reference a car they drove whose battery was built by Remock, linking Remock to battery supply or development for a hybrid/EV-related project.

Concept

EV attempts and resets

"We're just watching how EV attempts and resets are affecting all of these companies. I was thinking about the 9-11 GTS Hybrid..."

They mean companies try something with EVs, then later change course when it doesn’t work out as expected. Selling stakes or pulling back is one way companies “reset” their plans.

Term

traction battery

"We were just curious and it has the traction battery where the normal battery is under the cowl, so you lift up the panel..."

A traction battery is the main battery that provides power to move the car (especially in hybrids and EVs). Where it’s placed matters because it can change how easy it is to access and maintain.

Term

electric turbocharger

"...in the new turbo, we've got two of them, the electric turbocharger and the entire battery technology..."

An electric turbocharger helps the turbo spool up faster using electricity. That can make acceleration feel more immediate because there’s less delay before boost arrives.

Topic

Ridge Motorsports Park

"May 1st and Saturday, May 2nd is Ridge Motorsports Park, that's the Pacific Northwest region..."

Ridge Motorsports Park is a race track where the hosts say they’ll be hosting driving events. They’re giving it as one of the upcoming locations.

Topic

Pocono Raceway

"...but the same weekend in the Northeast, Pocono Raceway is happening over there."

Pocono Raceway is another race track where the hosts say an event is happening that same weekend. They’re basically listing track locations for their upcoming driving events.

Concept

track day

"You can go to an H&D track day. A couple of weeks later, the Laguna Seca Summer Adventure is happening."

A track day is when normal drivers get to drive on a real race track. It’s usually not a race—more like practice with safety rules and guidance.

Topic

Laguna Seca

"A couple of weeks later, the Laguna Seca Summer Adventure is happening. That is Saturday, May 16th and May 17th at Laguna Seca, but the trick there is..."

Laguna Seca is a well-known race track in California. Drivers like it because it has challenging turns and changes in elevation.

Topic

Oregon Raceway Park ORP

"Oregon Raceway Park ORP, that is two hours east of Portland, and the cool thing about this track... you run it one direction Saturday and the other direction Sunday."

ORP is a race track in Oregon near Portland. They’re saying they run the track one way on Saturday and the opposite way on Sunday, so it feels different both days.

Topic

Circuit of the Americas

"CODA, Circuit of the Americas. ... A couple of really cool days, May 30th and 31st, in Austin, Texas, Circuit of the Americas..."

Circuit of the Americas is a big race track in Austin, Texas. It’s known for being a serious, high-energy track, and the hosts are saying their event there is especially large.

Part

long tube headers

"He's modded everything pretty much still in long tube headers, FI cat back, poured plantament intake manifold, CSC elimination kit with performance pressure plate, unsprung clutch, a different ring gear."

Long-tube headers are aftermarket exhaust parts. They help the engine breathe out more efficiently, which can make the car feel stronger and sound different.

Part

FI cat back

"He's modded everything pretty much still in long tube headers, FI cat back, poured plantament intake manifold, CSC elimination kit with performance pressure plate, unsprung clutch, a different ring gear."

“Cat-back” means the exhaust system from the catalytic converter to the back of the car. People upgrade it to change sound and sometimes improve performance.

Part

intake manifold

"FI cat back, poured plantament intake manifold, CSC elimination kit with performance pressure plate, unsprung clutch, a different ring gear."

The intake manifold is the part that routes air into the engine. A performance version is meant to help the engine get the right amount of air more effectively.

Part

CSC elimination kit

"poured plantament intake manifold, CSC elimination kit with performance pressure plate, unsprung clutch, a different ring gear."

A CSC elimination kit is a clutch-related modification. It changes how the clutch hydraulics work, usually to make the system simpler or more reliable.

Part

performance pressure plate

"CSC elimination kit with performance pressure plate, unsprung clutch, a different ring gear."

The pressure plate squeezes the clutch to connect the engine to the transmission. A performance one can handle more power, but it can also make the clutch feel stiffer.

Part

unsprung clutch

"performance pressure plate, unsprung clutch, a different ring gear. I mean, he's done so much this car and he's driven it a lot."

An unsprung clutch is a clutch disc that doesn’t have the usual spring cushioning. It can make the car respond faster, but it may feel more abrupt when you start moving.

Part

different ring gear

"CSC elimination kit with performance pressure plate, unsprung clutch, a different ring gear. I mean, he's done so much this car and he's driven it a lot."

The ring gear is inside the differential and helps determine the final gear ratio. Changing it can make the car feel quicker off the line, but it can also raise engine RPM on the highway.

Term

manual transmission driving, clutch driving

"He's had several back surgeries and his days of enjoying manual transmission driving, clutch driving is going to come to an end. That's too bad."

On a manual car, you use the clutch pedal to shift gears. This segment is about how clutch work can get harder for someone with back issues, even if they love driving the car.

Car

Audi RS5

"He's also looked at Audi RS5 coupes from 2018 ish."

The Audi RS 5 is a performance coupe/fastback variant of the A5 line, typically associated with a more driver-focused feel than standard trims. The segment mentions “RS5 coupes from 2018 ish,” implying the listener is considering a newer-generation RS 5 for everyday usability.

Concept

Ride comfort vs nimbleness

"He's considered the Cadillac CT5V black wing, but the four door size limits the nimble ride he's used to with the Z. He just doesn't see it making him happy."

They’re weighing two things: comfort and how “quick” the car feels. A bigger car can be less nimble, and suspension/ride quality can matter a lot if you’re trying not to aggravate your back.

Car

Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing

"He's considered the Cadillac CT5V black wing, but the four door size limits the nimble ride he's used to with the Z."

The Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing is a sporty Cadillac sedan. They’re worried it’s too big and won’t feel as quick and nimble as the smaller car they’re used to.

Concept

modern touches on classic muscle cars

"He has looked at the classic 68 to 72 American muscle cars, but enjoys the modern touches."

This points to the idea of adding “modern touches” to classic cars—typically things like better drivability, updated electronics, improved braking, or suspension refinements. It’s often a way to keep the classic styling while reducing the day-to-day compromises of older vehicles.

Concept

European sports car parts and maintenance costs

"And then he also writes he worries about European sports car parts and maintenance costs, but has found the Nissan parts market seems more reasonable."

They’re talking about a common reality with European sports cars: fixing them can cost more because parts and labor are often pricier. They’re comparing that to Nissan, where they think parts are easier/cheaper to get.

Term

modding and tuning

"This image is from 2013, just after he brought the the Z home and then he's been modding and tuning it ever since ever since ever since the photo."

“Modding and tuning” refers to changing a car with aftermarket parts and then adjusting the engine/vehicle settings to match. The goal is usually to improve performance, drivability, or responsiveness, but it can also affect reliability if done poorly.

Car

Plymouth Pinto

"His first car was a 73 Pinto that did not blow up."

The Plymouth Pinto is a small older car from the early 1970s. The host is basically saying his first car was a Pinto and it survived, even though the Pinto has a famous reputation.

Car

Ford Mustang

"Yeah. I mean, he survived clearly. 1976 Mustang to Cobra blew its engine 1982 Thunderbird with a 2.3 turbo."

This is a Mustang Cobra from the 1970s. The important part of the story is that it eventually blew its engine, showing how some older performance cars can be maintenance-heavy.

Car

Ford Thunderbird

"1976 Mustang to Cobra blew its engine 1982 Thunderbird with a 2.3 turbo."

This is a 1982 Ford Thunderbird that had a turbocharged 2.3-liter engine. The host is mentioning it because it also had engine trouble, which is a common theme with older turbo setups.

Car

Shelby Cobra

"It's good. 1976 Mustang to Cobra blew its engine 1982 Thunderbird with a 2.3 turbo..."

The Shelby Cobra is a famous sports car known for being very fast and performance-focused. The podcast brings it up while talking about older cars and engine problems. It’s mentioned because it’s an iconic name, but older performance cars can have complicated histories.

Car

Chevrolet Chevelle

"He bought and built 68 Chevelle with a truck 350 he had to sell when they he and his family got stationed in England for the Air Force."

The Chevrolet Chevelle (1968 here) is a classic American muscle car platform that’s popular for building and modifying. In this segment, it’s mentioned alongside a specific engine choice, showing the owner’s hands-on approach to projects.

Car

Ford Mustang GTD

"After he returned to the States, he went through several block cars, got a Mustang GT from the year 2000 and then finally got this 2013 370Z base model, 107,000 miles on it."

The Ford Mustang GT is a faster, sportier version of the Mustang. It’s the kind of car people pick when they want more performance than the standard model.

Term

block cars

"After he returned to the States, he went through several block cars, got a Mustang GT from the year 2000 and then finally got this 2013 370Z base model, 107,000 miles on it."

The phrase “block cars” is unclear here, but it sounds like the owner had a series of cars that were more project-like than stock. If you heard this in the episode, it may mean cars he was building or working on.

Car

Nissan 370Z

"After he returned to the States, he went through several block cars, got a Mustang GT from the year 2000 and then finally got this 2013 370Z base model, 107,000 miles on it."

The Nissan 370Z is a sports car made by Nissan. The 2013 model is a popular enthusiast choice because it’s fun to drive and people often modify and tune them.

Concept

drive the car for what it is

"And so what we've always encouraged you... to do is always drive the car for what it is. Drive it and not imagining the badge on the nose."

They’re saying: don’t judge a car by the logo or what people think. Go drive it and decide how it feels to you.

Concept

tape the badge

"...as if you tape the badge on the steering wheel, the horn button, you tape that off and then went for a drive and you came back and went, wow, it surprised me..."

“Taping off” logos is a technique to reduce brand bias during evaluation. By removing visual cues, the driver can focus on the car’s actual characteristics—comfort, controls, and performance—rather than reputation.

Concept

owning the car

"I want you to think of you driving the car, you owning the car and would you really enjoy it? And we've had to get past some of them, you know, owning some of the cars that we've had."

They’re talking about whether you’d still like the car after you actually own it, not just right after you first see or test it. Real ownership is about how it fits your life and whether it stays fun over time.

Term

automatic

"They do come in automatic. They come with a lot of power. You don't have to wrench on it... So again, no more clutch driving..."

They mean an automatic transmission. Instead of using a clutch pedal and shifting yourself, the car handles it for you, which makes driving less tiring.

Car

Toyota Supra

"The beautiful thing about Z's is they're not Supras. The Supras admittedly have a tighter, smaller cabin and the Z feels like it's it's spacious... There's plenty of room."

“Supras” refers to the Toyota Supra. The hosts compare it to the Nissan Z, specifically calling out that the Supra has a tighter, smaller cabin while the Z feels more spacious—important for everyday comfort in a sports car.

Concept

nice GT car

"There's plenty of room. It's a nice GT car. It's built on the bones of the car he owns and loves."

A “GT” car is meant for comfortable, enjoyable trips—like long drives—without giving up too much sportiness. They’re saying the Z feels roomy and relaxed enough to be a real grand tourer.

Car

Nismo Z

"If you want something slightly more hardcore, that Nismo comes in an automatic. True. So again, no more clutch driving, but it's the car we think should have been built from the first from the get go in the Nismo Z."

They’re talking about a special performance version of the Nissan Z made by NISMO. The key takeaway is that you can get it with an automatic, so it’s more convenient while still aiming for a more hardcore driving feel.

Term

6.7 liter V8

"The new C8 Stingray comes with that 6.7 liter V8. Yep. More power."

This means the car has a V8 engine that’s pretty big—6.7 liters total. Bigger displacement often helps with strong acceleration and effortless power.

Car

Lexus Lc500

"It is the Lexus LC 500. Ooh, that's a good choice. You keep saying this is the Corvette that people think that they're buying."

The Lexus LC 500 is a luxury grand tourer (GT) from Lexus, offered as an alternative to the Corvette in the speaker’s “what should you buy” debate. The host frames it as a good choice for someone who wants a sports-car experience but may be coming from a non-sports-car background.

Car

Corvette

"Now they get to that retirement age-ish, and they decide they want to buy a Corvette. The car they want to have that does everything they're hoping it will do..."

A Corvette is a Chevrolet sports car. People usually buy it for sporty driving, but here they’re talking about whether it’s the right choice for comfort and long trips versus a more luxury-focused car.

Concept

GT

"If you're a person looking for GT, hangout, isn't my car cool driving, you know the Corvette can do that, but the LC 500 does it better."

“GT” means a car that’s designed for comfortable long trips. The idea is you can drive it far without it feeling harsh or tiring.

Concept

red line

"Rip this to red line. Yes. I went searching."

The red line is the top RPM limit of the engine. Revving past it is risky, so it’s usually something you only do briefly (or not at all) depending on the car.

Concept

collectible classic

"I mean, this is a collectible classic now, and it's still for sale right now. It's very cool."

A “collectible classic” is a car people want to own because it’s special and could be worth more or be more desirable later. It’s not only about using it day to day.

Concept

dead on in your budget

"That is dead on in your budget. That's actually the lower end of your budget. I think you would love looking at this car, love driving it."

They mean the price is right where you expected it to be. That makes it easier to buy without financial stress.

Company

autotempus.com

"Go get one. Pick a price, pick your mileage, pick your color. They're for sale out there, autotempus.com every day, but you can find a lot of them."

They’re pointing you to a website where you can search for cars like this. The idea is you can narrow down options by price, miles, and color.

Concept

used car shopping by mileage and price

"[2487.9s] All different prices. [2488.8s] I had this, I think, set at the lowest price. [2491.5s] So the one you see here at the top has 120,000 miles for $50,000. [2495.4s] And it's going to keep running."

The hosts are evaluating a listing using two key variables: mileage and price. Mileage is a proxy for wear, while price reflects market value and condition—so a “good deal” depends on whether the car’s service history and condition match the numbers.

Term

V8

"[2495.4s] It'll be great. [2497.3s] That V8 that's in there is going to run forever. [2498.9s] The interior is probably fantastic and that's blue with a tan, which I would definitely"

A V8 is a type of engine with eight cylinders. It usually feels strong and smooth, but it can also use more fuel than smaller engines.

Concept

test drive

"[2502.4s] choose. [2504.4s] Go for a test drive. [2505.2s] I think you'd love this car, Jon."

A test drive means you drive the car yourself before buying it. It helps you check if it feels good to you—like comfort, steering, and how it drives day-to-day.

Concept

front engine rear-drive

"What I get from this, Jon, is we're talking about you've had a front engine rear-drive small-ish sports car."

This means the engine is in the front, and the car drives the back wheels. Many drivers like it because it can feel more “classic” and fun to drive.

Car

2015 Nissan GTR Black Edition

"...I found one that is about as new and nice as you can get for that money, a 2015 Nissan GTR Black Edition. It has 61,000 miles."

This is a special 2015 version of Nissan’s GT-R. The host is saying it can still feel like a real sports car, but it may be a better fit for comfort and day-to-day ownership than other options in the same price range.

Term

$90,000

"And with your budget of $90,000 on the high end, I found one that is about as new and nice as you can get for that money, a 2015 Nissan GTR Black Edition."

They’re using a $90,000 budget to decide what cars you can realistically shop for. With a budget like that, the “newest” cars you can find may be limited by price and mileage.

Term

61,000 miles

"It has 61,000 miles. They want essentially 90 grand for it, 89,990, okay?"

Mileage is a key used-car metric because it correlates with wear items, maintenance history, and how much life remains in components. In this segment, the host uses the mileage to argue the car is “about as new” as possible within the stated budget.

Concept

2015s and up

"You said you wanted 2015s and up because you've heard they ride better and be better for your back."

They’re saying they want a newer model year (2015 or newer) because it should be better for comfort and possibly fewer problems. The host is arguing that, for this budget, 2015 is about as new as it gets.

Car

BMW

"You're worried about Porsches. You're worried about BMWs for maintenance. I promise you that the GTR is going to be more expensive to maintain than any Porsche or BMW you might choose."

They’re comparing maintenance costs, and BMW is used as an example of a car brand that tends to be expensive to service.

Car

Z Car

"That is the thing. Yes, your Z car has been easy to maintain. I get it."
Concept

aggressive maintenance schedule

"Everything here is bespoke. Everything here is special for this car. And everything here has a very aggressive maintenance schedule."

An aggressive maintenance schedule means the car is serviced more frequently and/or with more demanding intervals than a typical daily driver. The hosts connect this to the GT-R’s expensive ownership experience—more visits, more labor, and more wear items.

Car

2015 Porsche 911

"I have a 2015 Porsche 911 here. This is the Carrera S 2 door, 40,000 miles for 85.5."

A Porsche 911 is a famous sports car from Porsche. Here, they’re talking about a 2015 example and comparing what it might cost to own versus another fast car.

Concept

cost more to maintain

"This 2015 911 will be less expensive to own than the 2015 GTR. Interesting. I bet you it would be, Jon."

“Cost more to maintain” is about total cost of ownership—how much a car costs over time for upkeep, repairs, tires, and routine service. The segment frames this as a practical way to decide between two expensive sports cars, rather than focusing only on purchase price.

Concept

perception issue

"And in spite of the fact that I understand, Jon, you're dealing with a perception issue. The reality is this car would be brilliant for everything you want."

A “perception issue” refers to how owners’ stories, stereotypes, or reputation can shape expectations about reliability and ownership costs. Here, the hosts contrast that perception with what they believe is the real-world cost/experience of owning the 911 versus the GT-R.

Concept

terrifying to own

"I would buy the 911 immediately because the GTR is terrifying to own. So you could do a 2015 911."

“Terrifying to own” is a colloquial way to describe fear of expensive failures, unpredictable maintenance, or high repair costs. In this segment, it’s used to argue that the Nissan GT-R’s ownership experience is worse than the Porsche 911’s, at least from a cost-and-stress perspective.

Car

BMW M2

"Drive the 991 generation 911 and also drive an M2. Oh, that's good. Drive an M2, drive a 911. ... So the BMW M2."

The BMW M2 is BMW’s smaller “M” performance car—meant to feel sporty and fun without being huge. They’re telling you to drive one and compare it to a Porsche 911 to see what you personally enjoy.

Concept

drive it like Paul said, drive it with not thinking about the badge

"But so go drive an M2, any variant that you want, drive a 911 and drive it like Paul said, drive it with not thinking about the badge. Do I like this? And here's the better question."

They’re saying don’t get distracted by the logo or reputation. Instead, pay attention to how the car feels when you drive it and what you personally like about it.

Car

Jaguar Ftype

"[2836.0s] Jaguar F-Type, my friend, the first time I'm showing you, I had to show because I [2839.3s] can't believe it's this cheap 2016 all wheel drive automatic with 134,000 miles ... [2884.8s] This does all the things. [2885.8s] And every time I drive an F type, it surprises me for how well it rotates."

The Jaguar F-Type is a sporty Jaguar that’s meant to feel fun and responsive when you drive. Here, they’re talking about how it handles turns and feels easier to live with than you might expect.

Concept

rotates really well

"[2884.8s] This does all the things. [2885.8s] And every time I drive an F type, it surprises me for how well it rotates. ... [2902.1s] and to a person, they get out and go, that rotates really well."

When they say it “rotates really well,” they mean the car turns into a corner smoothly and feels like it wants to change direction. It’s a compliment about how the car behaves mid-corner, not just how fast it goes.

Car

Audi Tt

"Anyway, moving on from the Jaguar F type, an Audi TT RS. This is a totally different animal."

The Audi TT RS is the fast, performance-focused version of the TT. The hosts are saying it drives differently than other cars—more nimble and quick to rotate through turns.

Concept

small with good rotation

"But what I like about this is small with good rotation. Yeah, that's what you're going to like about this."

“Rotation” is how easily the car turns and pivots through a corner. A “small with good rotation” car feels quick and easy to aim into turns, not sluggish or reluctant.

Concept

long nose, rear wheel drive

"But following the trend of what your Z is like. If I think about the progression of your Z car, long nose, rear wheel drive, etc."

“Long nose” means the front of the car is longer, and “rear wheel drive” means the back wheels do the pushing. That combination can change how the car turns and how it grips when you accelerate out of corners.

Car

Corvette Grand Sport

"...heel drive, etc. I have to wind up at a Corvette Grand Sport C7. I have a couple of them here."
Brand

AC Delco

"Get the most out of your vehicle with GM Genuine Parts and AC Delco Original Equipment, the only parts designed, engineered, tested and backed by General Motors."

AC Delco is a parts brand associated with General Motors. The idea is that their parts are made to fit and work like the original parts on GM cars.

Company

GMparts.com

"Visit GMparts.com for more information."

GMparts.com is a website where you can search for replacement parts that fit your GM vehicle. It’s basically the GM-approved place to shop for parts.

Company

AutoTempest.com

"And we only use AutoTempest.com because AutoTempest pulls listings from all the top sites as fast as any single site and shows them all to you. So you don't miss a listing for your perfect car."

AutoTempest is a website that searches many car listing sites at once. Instead of checking a bunch of different pages, you can see more options in one search and track price changes.

Concept

price trends tool

"You can save your search, get alerts and even compare prices with their price trends tool. Plus, AutoTempest was our first sponsor and they've been our partner for years."

A price trends tool tracks how the price of similar cars has been moving. It can help you decide if a deal looks fair or if you should wait.

Concept

hard budget

"...because we have a son with dreams of one kind of car and parents with dreams of reality and a $13,000 hard budget hanging in the balance."

A hard budget is a firm spending limit. It affects what cars you can actually afford, so you may have to compromise on things like age, mileage, or options.

Car

Ford Explorer

"Their 17 year old son is currently driving a hand-me-down 2016 Ford Explorer XLE. It's only 10 years old, which I'm sure he describes as fine."

A Ford Explorer is a family-sized SUV. The XLE trim usually means it’s the more comfort-and-features version, not the sportiest one.

Concept

strict budget

"Edmonds has offered them $13,000 for it, and that is their strict budget. No doubling the price."

A strict budget means there’s a firm maximum amount of money they’re willing to spend. It helps decide what cars (or deals) are actually possible.

Company

Edmonds

"Edmonds has offered them $13,000 for it, and that is their strict budget. No doubling the price."

Edmunds is a website that helps people research car prices. If they mention an “Edmonds” number, it’s likely based on what the site thinks the car is worth.

Car

Nissan 350 Z

"...and get something else. So he's dreaming of this 350 Z older 350 Z or a higher mileage, mileage three 70..."

The 350Z is an older Nissan sports coupe. The podcast is talking about it as a possible choice, including versions with higher mileage. It’s mentioned because it can be a more affordable way to get a sports-car feel.

Car

Ford Fiesta St

"...or a higher mileage, mileage three 70 Z at this $13,000 price point or a fiesta ST. Yes, we are here to sell you all fiesta STs."

The Fiesta ST is a small Ford hatchback that’s meant to be fun to drive. In this conversation, it’s being suggested as a more realistic choice than a Z car for the money.

Car

Mazda three hatchback

"They're looking at a Toyota RAV four or the Mazda three hatchback."

The Mazda 3 hatchback is a compact car that’s usually chosen for being practical but still enjoyable to drive. The parents are considering it as a compromise between “fun” and “reasonable.”

Car

Toyota RAV four

"The parents vote. They're looking at a Toyota RAV four or the Mazda three hatchback."

The Toyota RAV4 is a practical SUV people buy for everyday driving. The hosts are contrasting it with the more sporty cars the son wants.

Car

Tesla Model three

"Here's the context. Matthew, he says, his family has a Tesla Model three and a Model I bought for"

The Tesla Model 3 is an electric car. The hosts mention the family already has one, which sets the context for what the son is comparing his dream car to.

Car

Tesla Model

"... the context. Matthew, he says, his family has a Tesla Model three and a Model I bought for practicality, not..."

The Model Y is an electric SUV, meaning it runs on electricity instead of gas. It’s designed to be practical for everyday use, like carrying people and luggage. The conversation is about whether it fits a family’s needs.

Term

100,000 miles

"Okay, because at $13,000, just put it in perspective at $13,000, most of the cars you're going to find that you're halfway interested in are close to 100,000 miles."

They’re referencing mileage—about 100,000 miles is when a used car may start needing more repairs. That’s why it’s important to check maintenance history and condition before buying.

Concept

buying a car for right now and hoping it has a long life

"But I think this is one of those situations where you have to be buying a car for right now and hoping it has a long life."

They’re saying you might buy a car that fits today’s situation, then hope it lasts. With cheaper cars, whether it survives depends a lot on how well it was maintained before you bought it.

Concept

insurance premium

"Matthew and his wife see the insurance premium or the crash test ratings. Does that Mazda three satisfy both camps or is there a forgotten enthusiast car that fits the budget and won't break at midterms?"

An insurance premium is what you pay each month (or year) for car insurance. Teen drivers often pay more, so the car you choose can change the cost a lot.

Car

Jeep Grand

"I'm making the argument for you, Matthew, son, because I had a Jeep grand Cherokee, well, it's just a Cherokee then, but it fit all my friends. Guess who was always doing the driving."

They’re talking about a Jeep Grand Cherokee they owned. They’re using it as an example of a roomy car that could fit a lot of people, which changed who ended up driving.

Concept

seat belts

"Like, sure, we're taking balls because we can fit everybody in the back. No seat belts. Everybody's in the far back. Everybody's piled in."

Seat belts help keep you from flying around in a crash. The speaker is pointing out that riding without seat belts is unsafe, even if it’s common when people cram into a car.

Term

under 25 drivers

"...especially for the under 25 drivers under 25 males. This is when they really stick you for insurance costs."

Insurance tends to cost more for younger drivers because insurers see more claims in that age group. It’s not personal—it’s based on statistics from many drivers.

Car

Ferrari 16

"Right. It's brand new Ferrari, 16 year old driver. You may as well buy a Ferrari again for the insurance cost."

The 166 MM Barchetta is an extremely rare and valuable old Ferrari sports car. The podcast mentions it to make a point about how insurance and ownership would be unrealistic for a teenager. It’s mainly used as an example of a dream car that’s not practical.

Concept

actuarial spreadsheets and stats

"But I'm talking these old used things. What happens is it's all down to the spreadsheets and the stats. And it isn't about how the car was, how expensive it was new."

Think of it like insurance using a big database of past accidents. If a certain type of driver and car combination tends to get into trouble, the insurance price goes up—even if the car seems ordinary.

Concept

insurance company went, not anymore, you're not right

"So the insurance company went, not anymore, you're not right. So that's the thing."

Insurance companies don’t just guess—they use data to decide how risky a situation is. That’s why the price can change even if two people think the same car should cost the same.

Car

Mazda Miatas

"you, look it up because we've also had sometimes when young drivers have gotten crazy deals on Miata's for insurance. And you would think, well, death trap and a 16 year old is going to"

The Miata is a small two-seat sports car that’s meant to be fun and easy to drive. The podcast talks about it because some young drivers can sometimes get surprisingly low insurance costs. That can make it a more realistic option for a first sports car.

Car

Scion Frs

"...re is on auto tempest.com starting with the Cyan FRS and I started here because just typing 13 grand i..."

The FR-S is a small sports car that was designed to be fun to drive. The podcast is talking about finding one for around $13,000 by looking at used listings. It’s mentioned because it can be a cheaper way to get into a sports-car experience.

Concept

insurance varies by zip code

"It depends on if like Honda Civics in your zip code and that's the most stolen car in that zip code. Well, that'll be the most expensive to ensure."

The hosts emphasize that insurance premiums can vary dramatically by location because insurers track theft rates, accident frequency, and claim costs by area. That’s why the same model can be cheap in one zip code and expensive in another.

Car

Toyota Camry

"What's a lowly Honda Civic? What could possibly be wrong or a cords or Camry's or it's very strange and selecting others outside of that weird insurance bubble that metric."

A Toyota Camry is a popular family sedan. The hosts mention it as another everyday car people might choose instead of something more “special.”

Concept

crash test ratings

"What I'm going to lean on here is you're thinking crash test ratings and safety and safety in terms of my son is going to survive the giant crash."

Crash test ratings are numbers from tests that try to see how well a car protects people in crashes. The point here is that a good rating doesn’t automatically mean it’s the safest choice for a new driver.

Concept

distraction while driving

"If it's an automatic and not a manual like this, well, that phone's going to come out and I see this too much. Yes, it's the worst. The phone's going to come out. I'm looking at the phone and you're distracted."

Distraction while driving means your attention isn’t fully on driving. The hosts are saying that for a new driver, phones and other distractions make things much more dangerous.

Car

Mazda 3

"...the responsibility of maintaining something that isn't an appliance, the brand four, the Mazda three, something that he feels a little special about."

A Mazda 3 is a normal, everyday Mazda car. The point here is that owning a real car means you have to take care of it—like changing oil—so it keeps running.

Term

change the oil

"You don't have to maintain. Oh, I forgot to change the oil two years ago. Maybe I should think about it."

Oil is what helps your engine move smoothly. If you forget to change it for a long time, the engine can start to wear out faster, and you may worry the car won’t run well.

Concept

car maintenance where it's parked responsibility

"[3660.2s] You're not teaching car maintenance that way at all. [3662.6s] Are you? [3662.9s] Car maintenance where it's parked responsibility with all the financial, [3667.9s] sure, but keeping a machine well maintained and being proud of something"

They’re saying taking care of a car isn’t only about fixing things—it’s also about being responsible with where you park and how you drive. Those choices can prevent damage and reduce wear.

Concept

being proud of something

"[3667.9s] sure, but keeping a machine well maintained and being proud of something [3672.7s] means his level of interest is going to be much higher on the scale, whether [3677.4s] that, well, my parents bought me a toaster."

They’re saying if you feel good about your car, you’re more likely to look after it. That usually means you notice problems sooner and keep it in better shape.

Concept

throwaway

"[3682.3s] Insurance companies don't care about it. [3683.9s] Nobody cares about it. [3684.9s] So it's throwaway. [3686.7s] It got a ding."

They mean treating the car like it doesn’t matter because it’s cheap. If you don’t care for it, small problems can turn into bigger ones later.

Concept

enthusiast car

"[3688.9s] It's not worth much. [3690.0s] And about, no, you got him a driver's car, an enthusiast car. [3694.1s] I'm careful about it. [3695.3s] I'm not precious with it, but I'm careful about where I park."

They mean a car someone buys because they actually enjoy driving it. Owners often take better care of it because it feels special to them.

Car

Hyundai Genesis

"Not only a Scion FRS, but Hyundai Genesis Coupes. As far as the eye can see, we can go back to BMW Z3s, which are a load of fun."

The Hyundai Genesis Coupe was a sporty Hyundai coupe. The point of mentioning it is that it’s more than just transportation—it’s the kind of car that can teach you driving skills.

Car

BMW Z3s

"As far as the eye can see, we can go back to BMW Z3s, which are a load of fun. Yeah, that might not pass the parent safety test, but they are very, very"

The BMW Z3 is a small BMW roadster. It’s known for being fun and easy to enjoy, which is why it comes up in a discussion about learning driving skills in real life.

Car

Z4s

"Yeah, that might not pass the parent safety test, but they are very, very fun, small, nimble, and finally Z4s. Same thing here."

The BMW Z4 is a sporty BMW roadster. The hosts are basically saying that these kinds of cars are fun and nimble, which can help you practice driving skills.

Concept

value of a dollar

"But I'm making the case here. It's the value of a dollar."

They’re saying that real driving practice is a better use of your money than virtual stuff. The reason is that it helps you pay attention and react better on the road.

Concept

responsibility for having this car from the get go

"Yes, but it's the value of responsibility for having this car from the get go... And that will ramp up your skills. I think more so than just some sort of throwaway car."

The segment frames car ownership as a responsibility practice: treating the vehicle carefully, maintaining it, and building driving/ownership skills over time. It contrasts “throwaway” behavior (careless parking, curb bashing) with habits that preserve the car and improve competence.

Car

Mini Cooper

"...his very inexpensive Mini Cooper and he's obsessed with is it clean? Do I have fresh oil in it? Because it burns a little bit of oil because it's got nearly 200,000 miles on a Mini Cooper."

A Mini Cooper is a small car. This one has a lot of miles, and the owner notices it uses some oil, so checking and topping it off becomes part of keeping it running.

Term

fresh oil

"...he's obsessed with is it clean? Do I have fresh oil in it? Because it burns a little bit of oil..."

Fresh oil means the engine oil was recently changed. Clean, new oil helps protect the engine, so checking it is part of taking care of the car.

Term

burns a little bit of oil

"Because it burns a little bit of oil because it's got nearly 200,000 miles on a Mini Cooper. So of course it burns oil."

If a car “burns oil,” it means the engine uses some of the oil while it’s running. That’s why you have to check the oil level and add oil so the engine doesn’t run low.

Term

check my oil

"I mean, he came home yesterday and he said, Hey, dad, I'm going to check my oil. I was like, good, good, good."

Checking your oil means looking at the oil level so you know the engine has enough lubrication. It’s important because running low can damage the engine.

Term

blow your engine

"But I taught him. I was like, buddy, if this gets too bad, you're going to blow your engine."

“Blow your engine” means the engine can get so damaged it can’t run properly anymore. In this case, it’s a warning that if you don’t keep enough oil in the engine, it can fail.

Term

burning oil

"And this thing we know is burning oil. So you need to check your oil every three or four gas tanks."

If a car is “burning oil,” it means the engine is using up oil faster than it should. That’s not normal, and it can be risky because the engine needs oil to stay lubricated. Checking the oil regularly helps catch it before damage happens.

Term

check your oil

"So you need to check your oil every three or four gas tanks. And he came home yesterday and he's like, Hey, dad, I got gas."

Checking your oil means making sure there’s enough oil in the engine. If the level gets too low, the engine can wear out quickly. It’s an easy habit that can prevent expensive problems.

Concept

body on frame truck

"And that was the bridge too far for my wife who came from the camp of what's the largest body on frame truck possible for my little baby? OK, so she came from one Sierra 2500."

“Body-on-frame” means the truck has a sturdy frame underneath, and the body sits on top of it. That’s why trucks like this often feel big and solid. The hosts mention it to explain why she was used to a large vehicle.

Car

Sierra 2500

"OK, so she came from one Sierra 2500. Exactly. And I came from the other end and to her credit,"

A Sierra 2500 is a big pickup truck. The speaker is saying the wife is used to driving something large and heavy. That’s why she initially pushed back on getting a tiny sports car for their kid.

Concept

dynamics

"Having a car with dynamics is important. But I, Matthew, I'm going to assume that you and your family are going to have to be bigger than that."

When someone says a car has “dynamics,” they mean it drives in a way that feels controlled and responsive. It’s about how the car handles and how confident it feels in everyday driving.

Concept

used-car mileage as a shopping constraint

"There's so many 70,000 miles, 70,000 miles. That's why I brought this up because it's 70,000 miles, two thousand, too many Cooper for six grand."

They’re talking about how many miles are on a used car and how that affects the deal. With more miles, the car may cost less, but you’re also thinking about wear and future maintenance.

Term

outlier

"This is an outlier in Dallas, but I knew you weren't going to go too far for a $13,000 car."

An outlier just means “the exception.” They’re saying one example in Dallas doesn’t fit the usual pattern of what they found for that budget.

Concept

insurance costs for a kid's car

"It's a BMW. So it has some cache. Yes, you could argue to me right now. It's a BMW. What's the insurance going to cost? ... That's the other thing you have to understand about insurance, especially for kids cars."

They’re talking about how insurance changes based on the car and who’s driving it. If a car is older and cheaper to repair or replace, insurance often ends up being cheaper too.

Concept

totaling a car after a wreck ("rode it off")

"This in this case, the car was $8,000 and he wrecked it this morning and we just rode it off. There's no like, what's it going to cost to fit?"

They’re implying the car was written off after the crash. That usually happens when the damage is expensive enough that it costs more to fix than the car is worth.

Concept

junkyard

"It's going to the junkyard. These are I hate to say this with you at this level."

They’re talking about a junkyard, meaning a place where old cars go when they’re no longer worth fixing. It’s part of the point that some cars are treated as temporary.

Concept

disposable cars for teenagers

"These are I hate to say this with you at this level. These are disposable cars for teenagers."

They’re basically saying some cars are bought for teenagers with the idea that they won’t last forever. So the focus is often on getting something cheap, knowing you may have to fix it or replace it later.

Concept

maintain it

"OK, you're going to have to maintain. Learn to maintain it, learn to... Keep it maintained. This car would last a while."

They’re saying the difference between a car that dies early and one that lasts is maintenance. If you keep up with basic service, repairs are less likely to pile up and the car can last longer.

Term

72,000 miles

"This has 72,000 miles on it. It's being sold at a Lexus dealer in Houston."

They mention 72,000 miles to show this BMW isn’t as worn out as the earlier example. Lower mileage usually means you may have more time before big repairs are needed.

Company

Lexus dealer in Houston

"This has 72,000 miles on it. It's being sold at a Lexus dealer in Houston. It happens to be white, which I don't love..."

They’re saying the BMW is being sold by a Lexus dealership in Houston. That matters because dealer sales often come with different paperwork and processes than private-party sales.

Car

two series BMW

"It happens to be white, which I don't love, but a two series BMW, a 2014."

They mean a BMW 2 Series. In this conversation it’s being treated like a smaller, more affordable BMW you can buy used, as long as you’re willing to maintain it.

Term

base engine

"This is the base engine. OK, so it's not super powerful, which keeps the insurance down."

A “base engine” is the standard, lower-power engine option. The idea here is that less power can make it easier to drive calmly, which can help with insurance and speeding risk.

Car

BMW 128I

"Well, let me go back to the 2011 128i."

A BMW 128i is a BMW 1 Series from around 2011. The “i” usually means a gas engine, and it’s being discussed as a cheaper way to get into a BMW without paying for the most powerful versions.

Concept

budget vs. perceived value

"[4122.2s] No part of that car says I cost $8,000. [4125.9s] Agreed. [4126.4s] You see your car in the same way my son's mini was, $4,200?"

They’re talking about how people judge a car by what it looks like, not what you actually paid. The idea is you can stick to a budget and still end up with a car that makes you feel like you got something good.

Concept

pride of ownership

"[4139.6s] Now, $8,000. [4141.0s] But there's going to be pride of ownership. [4142.6s] Money left over from your budget."

Pride of ownership means you feel good about your car because you take care of it and it fits your life, not just because it was expensive. The hosts are saying that you can buy something used and still feel proud.

Car

Infinity G37

"...because your son wanted a Z car. No Z car, but you know what does work? You can get an Infinity G37. I've got a 2011 limited edition..."

The Infiniti G37 is a luxury car with a V6 engine. In this conversation, they’re basically saying it’s a workable daily-driver choice—especially if you find one at the right price—even if it doesn’t hold value like some other cars.

Term

13.9

"I've got a 2011 limited edition. This one happens to be 13.9... I'll admit it... I put in 14,000 because I know you can talk people down."

In this context, “13.9” is being used like a price number (around $13,900). They’re talking about what they listed it for and what they think they can negotiate to.

Term

VQ engine

"This is the VQ engine that he wants in a slightly less flashy package... There's a cars and coffee that just has now banned all VQ engine cars."

“VQ engine” is the name of a common V6 engine family used by Nissan and Infiniti. The hosts are talking about it as the engine they want, and also as something that’s become controversial in some car-meet circles.

Concept

insurance perception of vehicle type

"And there's perception with insurance companies. There's just perception, like oh, I think I know who you are... They don't see a sports car, they see a businessman's car."

Insurance companies don’t just look at the driver—they also look at what kind of car it seems to be. If a car is seen as a sports car, it can cost more to insure, even if you drive it normally.

Car

Mazda 6

"I'm still gonna go there. Mazda 6 Grand Touring, this is the loaded Mazda 6. I thi..."

The Mazda 6 MPS is a stronger, sportier version of the Mazda 6. The podcast is bringing it up as a loaded option someone still wants. It’s basically a performance upgrade to a regular sedan.

Car

2017 Mazda 6 Grand Touring

"[4290.2s] 2014, I cannot believe this, [4291.1s] but I have another one here that is a more recent, [4294.2s] this is a 2017 Mazda 6 Grand Touring for $13,000 [4297.9s] to with 117,000 miles on it."

They’re talking about a 2017 Mazda 6 in the Grand Touring trim, which is the nicer, higher-level version of the car. They’re basically saying it’s a good deal for the money, even with a lot of miles.

Concept

chassis

"[4312.6s] This is excellent. [4313.6s] The Mazda 6, we had a couple of these [4315.8s] on one of our adventures one year. [4317.2s] The Mazda 6 has a much better chassis"

The “chassis” is basically the car’s main body structure and how the suspension is attached. If the chassis is good, the car tends to feel more stable and handle better.

Concept

full-size car

"[4324.8s] than the others we've talked about. [4326.0s] It's probably more of, I'm also gonna guess, [4328.1s] a more of a parent-approved car,"

A “full-size car” is a bigger type of car with more room inside. In this conversation, they’re using it to describe which option is roomier than the others.

Concept

parent-approved car

"[4326.0s] It's probably more of, I'm also gonna guess, [4328.1s] a more of a parent-approved car, [4330.7s] but they're still pretty cool."

“Parent-approved” just means a car that parents usually like for practical reasons. Think safety, comfort, and not being too expensive or annoying to own.

Concept

family discussion

"[4342.9s] I'm so fascinated to hear, [4344.1s] and this is going to be the beginning [4345.9s] of a lot of family discussion. [4348.2s] We just want to hear the results."

This is a family car decision. The hosts are basically asking: what options you looked at, what you drove, and what made you choose one over the others.

Car

BMW E30

"For his weekend fun car, he's got a 1989 BMW E30 touring."

The BMW E30 is a classic 3 Series from the late ’80s. “Touring” means it’s the wagon version, and it’s popular with people who like older BMWs and driving them themselves.

Car

Honda Civic Type R

"a Honda Civic Type R, a Toyota GR86, Lotus Amira, and a Porsche Cayman S."

The Civic Type R is a sporty version of the Honda Civic. It’s a compact car that’s designed to feel fun and responsive, not just fast in a straight line.

Car

Porsche Cayman S

"a Honda Civic Type R, a Toyota GR86, Lotus Amira, and a Porsche Cayman S. The only vehicle he has not driven yet"

The Cayman S is a Porsche sports car with the engine mounted in the middle. That layout helps it handle really well, so it’s often used to judge how “real” driving feels in a performance car.

Car

Lotus Amira

"...kwing. But for now, he's narrowed it down to the Amira. He would love to get his hands on a Blackwing"

The Lotus Emira is a sports car made for driving enjoyment. The podcast says someone is considering it as a top choice. The discussion is about finding a fun car that fits their budget.

Concept

backseat with storage

"However, he does have two kids ages 12 and eight, and having a backseat with storage is very appealing too. He's just not sure if he would regret"

If you have kids, the backseat needs to be practical. Storage behind or around the rear seats helps keep snacks, toys, and bags from turning the car into a mess.

Concept

Grand Canyon between choices

"I don't think there's ever been a more, a Grand Canyon between choices."

It’s a colorful way of saying the two options are really different. The hosts mean you’re not just picking a slightly different car—you’re choosing between two very different kinds of driving.

Car

Lotus Evora

"... going to say neither. I'm going to vote for the Evora GT. These are exactly Amira budget."

The Lotus Evora is a sports car with the engine placed toward the middle of the car. The podcast is saying the Evora GT could be a good fit if someone wants a similar kind of sports-car experience but with a budget in mind. It’s being considered as a practical alternative.

Car

Evora GT

"You can't believe that you get to commute in an Evora GT... I found manual transmissions, $93,000. They're not cheap, but if you're already looking at Amira and you need four seats, Evora GT."

The Lotus Evora GT is a sporty Lotus that’s meant to feel fun and connected to driving. Here they’re saying it can be a great daily/commute choice, not just a weekend toy. They also mention it works for people who need four seats.

Term

manual transmissions

"I found manual transmissions, $93,000. They're not cheap, but if you're already looking at Amira and you need four seats, Evora GT."

A manual transmission is a gearbox controlled by a clutch pedal and gear lever, giving the driver direct control over engine speed and shift timing. In modern performance cars, manuals are often rarer and can cost more, which is why the segment calls out a specific price premium. The discussion implies the manual is part of what makes the Evora GT feel special.

Car

Cadillac CT5V Blackwings

"...your kids grow and then the Cadillac CT5V Blackwings that are $120,000 now, those will come down in price and then you graduate to that and then you can have both."

The Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing is a powerful Cadillac sedan. They’re saying it costs a lot right now, but the price could come down later, so it could be a good next car after kids grow. It’s part of their long-term buying plan.

Concept

analog driving

"Look, the E30 is a great chassis. It really is wonderful analog driving, but I get the sense you're trying to get a fun daily..."

“Analog driving” means the car feels more like a traditional, mechanical machine—less digital, more direct. The idea is that it’s more fun because your inputs feel immediate and connected.

Concept

fun daily

"...but I get the sense you're trying to get a fun daily, which we are all about here... I'm really wondering, is it going to supersede the BMW?"

A “fun daily” is a car you’d actually want to drive on normal errands and commutes. Here they’re debating whether an older BMW E30 can still be that kind of everyday fun, or if a modern EV is the better choice.

Concept

internal combustion engine

"...If you get something sporty as your daily, internal combustion engine, maybe manual transmission, I'm starting to go..."

An internal combustion engine is the traditional engine type that burns gasoline or diesel to move the car. They’re bringing it up because they’re talking about the classic, non-electric driving experience.

Concept

daily that's fun

"you're talking about a daily that's fun with two kids. Should it be the CT5 Blackwing?"

A “daily that’s fun” means a car you can drive every day but still enjoy. The goal is to balance excitement with comfort and practicality.

Concept

refine it properly / dial it in

"Look, I like the Evora period, but starting at the 400, Lotus started to refine it properly and it started to really dial it in,"

That phrase basically means the car got better over time. The engineers improved it so it drives more smoothly and feels more “right” when you push it.

Car

Lotus Evora 400

"Look, I like the Evora period, but starting at the 400, Lotus started to refine it properly and it started to really dial it in, ... The Evora 400 I have showing right now is still the same cool green color, but it has 17,000 miles on it. ... The 400 is the perfect middle place between where the Evora started and the hardcore version it finished at."

The Lotus Evora 400 is a mid-level performance Evora. It’s meant to be more polished than the earlier ones, but not as extreme as the track-focused GT.

Car

Amira

"So 400 actually works here because the Amira does not. I understand, look, I chose the Amira. I love the Amira, but it's two seats and that's not really gonna work for your life."

The Lotus Amira is basically a two-person sports car. That means there’s no real back-seat practicality, so it won’t work if you need to carry kids or passengers in the rear.

Car

M2 Cs

"I've got other options for you. 2020 BMW M2 CS happens to be white, but it's $75,000 with 13,600 miles. Those have dropped a bit."

The BMW M2 CS is a sporty BMW coupe, and this one is a 2020 model. They’re basically saying it could be a great everyday choice, and they’re comparing it based on what it costs and how many miles it has.

Concept

prior generation

"This is the prior generation to the current M2. This was the best way they looked. It drove wonderfully."

“Prior generation” means the car is from the previous model generation rather than the newest one. This matters because the older generation can sometimes be cheaper while still delivering the same core driving experience, and styling preferences often differ between generations.

Part

rose gold motorsports wheels

"These rose gold motorsports wheels. Yeah. This is such a cool car."

They’re talking about the wheels on the car—specifically a motorsports-style design in a rose-gold color. It’s mostly a style/appearance point, but wheel choice can also affect how the car feels and looks.

Concept

usable back seats

"And this has really genuinely usable back seats. I just happened to find the CS,"

They mean the back seats aren’t just for kids or short trips—they’re actually comfortable enough for real people. That’s a big deal in smaller sports cars.

Concept

very raw, very stiff

"But when you drive this thing, Andy, it's very hardcore. It's very raw, very stiff. This feels like it needs to be on track."

“Raw” and “stiff” describe a car’s chassis tuning and overall driving character—often meaning less isolation from road inputs and more immediate feedback. A stiffer setup can improve responsiveness and reduce body motion, but it can also feel harsher on public roads.

Concept

pinnacle of M2

"I'm showing it because this feels to me like the pinnacle of M2, that M2 generation,"

They mean the CS is the most extreme, most performance-focused version of the M2. It’s tuned to feel more like a track car than a comfortable daily driver.

Concept

consideration set

"So I'm showing this as the upper level. So that is a really good consideration with real back seats. We joke in that piece about the difference of the usability of the back seats of the Avorra versus the M2 CS."

A “consideration set” is the shortlist of vehicles a buyer is actively comparing before making a decision. In this segment, the hosts are framing which cars make sense for the listener based on practical needs like rear-seat usability and overall size.

Car

Cadillac CT5

"But then you also said the CT5 is just the other big consideration and it's too big. So let's solve that with the CT4. Look, this is not as powerful as the CT5. The CT5 has the better, more interesting engine and the larger, more aggressive feel."

The Cadillac CT5 is a midsize luxury sedan positioned against cars like the BMW 3 Series and Mercedes-Benz C-Class. The hosts discuss it as a “bigger” option and contrast it with the smaller CT4, noting the CT5’s engine is described as more interesting and powerful.

Car

Cadillac CT4

"So let's solve that with the CT4. Look, this is not as powerful as the CT5. The CT5 has the better, more interesting engine and the larger, more aggressive feel. But this is smaller. And as a result of being smaller."

The Cadillac CT4 is a smaller Cadillac sedan. They’re recommending it because it’s not as big as the CT5, even though it won’t feel as powerful.

Car

2025 CT4 V Blackwing

"7,000 miles, $70,000 for a 2025 CT4 V Blackwing. So this has the turbo V6 and it, look, it's not as powerful."

Cadillac’s CT4 V Blackwing is a sporty version of the CT4 sedan. The hosts are saying that for a daily driver, it can feel more nimble than a bigger Cadillac V model, even though it may not be as strong.

Term

turbo V6

"So this has the turbo V6 and it, look, it's not as powerful. The engine is part of the fun of the CT5."

A turbo V6 is an engine with six cylinders arranged in a V shape, plus a turbo that forces extra air in. That extra air helps the engine make more power, especially when you accelerate.

Concept

agile daily

"But this, I would argue to you, if you're wanting a agile daily, this is better. And this is not gonna feel as big as the CT5 would."

An “agile daily” is a car that feels nimble and easy to drive every day. It’s about how the car responds in normal traffic and parking, not just how fast it can go.

Car

Tesla Cybertruck

"I kinda wanna make a new section called Wrapped Cybertrucks. What do you think, everyone? Jordan spotted this, instantly sent it to us."

They’re talking about the Tesla Cybertruck. It’s a pickup truck made by Tesla with a very distinctive, futuristic look.

Term

wrap

"What you can't see is that this has been wrapped to look kind of like a school bus... I toyed with the idea of doing a wrap Cybertruck section,"

A wrap is like a big, durable sticker that gets applied to the outside of a car. People use wraps to change the look without repainting.

Concept

write off cars

"Okay, so all the write off cars, the wrapped write off, maybe not."

A “write-off” car is one that insurance considers too damaged to be worth fixing. Sometimes it gets repaired and sold again, but it may have a special title status.

Concept

rolling billboards

"They are billboards, they are rolling billboards. That's exactly right."

They mean the wrapped car is being used to advertise while it drives around. Instead of a sign on the road, the whole vehicle becomes the ad.

Term

naturally aspirated engine

"...the reason for this... it's the really cool, naturally aspirated engine and you wanna hear it, therefore convertible."

Naturally aspirated means the engine doesn’t use a turbo or supercharger to force air in. People like them because they often feel responsive and sound more “mechanical.”

Concept

peacocking

"...if that GT3SC is for peacocking, what is the 911 antithesis?... all the 911s have been soured by a level of peacocking at this point"

In this context, “peacocking” means using a car to get attention or look cool, more than to actually enjoy driving it. They’re arguing about whether some famous cars have become so common that they don’t always mean the owner is a true enthusiast.

Concept

air-cooled

"because if you get into the air-cooled ones... many of the guys that have the air-cooled... The air-cooled 9-11 market is stupid."

“Air-cooled” means the engine is cooled by air flowing over it, not by coolant in a radiator. That can change how you maintain the car and why owners tend to be more hands-on and knowledgeable.

Topic

car's in coffee

"You do, okay. When somebody pulls into a car's in coffee"

“Cars in coffee” refers to informal car meetups where owners bring vehicles to socialize and show them off. The hosts’ mention ties the discussion to car culture and how that environment can encourage image-driven buying.

Car

Porsche 928

"with a pristine, well-running 928... You do not buy a 928 without expecting pain. There is pain coming, okay? You have to love the car, you have to know the car, you have to really want to have one."

The Porsche 928 is a classic Porsche grand tourer. The point here is that it’s not a “buy it and forget it” car—owning one usually means you should expect some maintenance or problems, so you should really want the car itself.

Concept

timeless

"it's very timeless... But it's not bewinged... there's nothing crazy about the 928 design, it's just classic. And timeless, and they look the same from the 70s to the 90s."

“Timeless” means the car’s design doesn’t look old. They’re saying the Porsche 928’s shape stayed consistent for a long time, so it still looks good even today.

Car

Porsche 912

"[5267.8s] I was gonna say 912. [5270.8s] Yeah, but 912 is, [5272.3s] I can't afford an air-cooled 911, so I bought a 912."

The Porsche 912 is an older Porsche that looks and feels related to the 911, but it was meant to cost less. The point here is that someone chose the 912 because they liked it, not because they could afford the pricier 911.

Term

tire inflators

"It's very pragmatic. As far as taking it from home. It's having our tire inflators, our torque wrench tools,"

A tire inflator is a small machine you can use to put air back into your tires. If your tire pressure drops, you can top it up right away instead of driving on it too low.

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torque wrench

"As far as taking it from home. It's having our tire inflators, our torque wrench tools,"

A torque wrench is a special tool that tightens bolts to the exact “tightness” you’re supposed to use. That helps keep wheels and parts secure without risking damage from being too loose or too tight.

Brand

Pontiac

"How about Pontiac? With the Solstice? It's like they killed the brand. The Solstice was like."

Pontiac was a GM brand that became famous for sporty and performance cars. The hosts are discussing how Pontiac’s later attempts didn’t revive the brand before it was ended.

Car

Pontiac Solstice

"How about Pontiac? With the Solstice? It's like they killed the brand."

The Pontiac Solstice is a sports car that Pontiac made. The podcast mentions it while talking about Pontiac being discontinued. It’s mainly brought up as a reminder of a car from a brand that’s no longer around.

Car

Pontiac Firebird

"The Knight Rider kit car was a big thing for Pontiac. Cause that was the Firebird era. They had some good stuff in there."

The Pontiac Firebird was a classic American performance car. It’s the kind of model people associate with the muscle-car era, and the hosts are using it as a reference point for Pontiac’s performance history.

Concept

Knight Rider kit car

"The Knight Rider kit car was a big thing for Pontiac. Cause that was the Firebird era."

A kit car is basically a car you build yourself (or have built) from a kit. The Knight Rider reference is about a TV-inspired look that people could create using real car parts, which is why it became a “thing” around Pontiac.

Concept

GM alt brand

"Yeah, for sure. And they were clearly being established for a long time as the GM alt brand that was a little more performance based."

“Alt brand” here means an alternate brand within General Motors aimed at a different customer than the main GM badge. The hosts describe Pontiac as being positioned as a more performance-oriented GM brand for a time, before later model strategies shifted.

Concept

mid-engine layout

"It was the Pontiac Fiero that was the only mid-engine to my knowledge out of GM. Production one, I'm pretty sure you're right."

A mid-engine layout means the engine sits closer to the middle of the car instead of the front. That can make the car feel more balanced and easier to handle, which is why people talk about it as a sports-car trait.

Car

Pontiac Fiero

"It was the Pontiac Fiero that was the only mid-engine to my knowledge out of GM. Production one, I'm pretty sure you're right. Yeah, you're right. The Fiero, yeah."

The Pontiac Fiero was a Pontiac sports car with the engine mounted in the middle. The hosts are saying it felt lighter and more like a real sports car, not a big heavy muscle car.

Concept

muscle car vs small sports car repositioning

"But yeah, I mean, it just felt like they were becoming the small sports car instead of big heavy muscle car. And they were being repositioned only to die."

They’re talking about Pontiac changing its image. Instead of making big heavy muscle cars, Pontiac tried to sell smaller sports cars, and the hosts think that shift didn’t really stick before Pontiac faded away.

Concept

fast and furious connections

"Yeah, the Supra that you're thinking of is the Mark IV with the 2JZ, man, and the fast and furious connections"

The “Fast and Furious” movies made certain cars, like the Toyota Supra, famous to a much wider audience. That can shape what people think is the “best” or most iconic car, even if other versions are objectively different.

Concept

drag monsters

"and they can do 1,000 horsepower and they became drag monsters. And yes, it was the crazy thing in fast and furious."

“Drag monster” is slang for a car that’s particularly dominant in drag racing—optimized for quick acceleration over a short distance. It usually implies strong power, traction management, and a setup geared toward straight-line runs rather than everyday driving. In this segment, it’s used to describe why certain Supra generations became famous.

Concept

back road car

"The new Supra is a better sports and back road car than the prior Supra. That's really good."

“Back road car” is shorthand for a vehicle that feels confident on twisty, uneven roads—where steering response, suspension compliance, and power delivery matter more than top speed. The hosts argue the new Supra is better in this role than the prior generation, implying improved real-world drivability. It’s a practical performance metric rather than a spec-sheet one.

Concept

speedometer gets pixeled out at certain speeds

"And he said, on many YouTube reviews are included, the speedometer gets pixeled out at certain speeds. Blurred, I can't imagine why we do that."

They’re saying that in some videos, the speedometer looks glitchy or pixelated at certain speeds. That usually happens because the camera and the car’s digital display update at different rates.

Topic

track videos / on-track graphic of speeds

"he liked that there was a track element of this piece. But we never really showed the speeds. He's wondering about an on-screen graphic of the speeds"

They’re talking about how track-driving videos should show speed to viewers. The question is whether the video should add an on-screen speed indicator or simply mention the speeds out loud.

Term

overlays

"where people will post all the overlays of all the track info that's happening. That's certainly helpful."

Overlays are extra graphics on the video that show things like speed and other driving numbers. They help you understand what’s happening without guessing.

Term

calling out a list of speeds

"I have a personal aversion to the person hosting the show, calling out a list of speeds. Oh, that's 90. Oh, that's 100."

Some hosts read out the speed numbers as they drive. The hosts in this segment dislike it because it can pull your attention away from how to actually drive the car.

Term

buffeting

"Oh, 130, little bit of buffeting. You all know what I'm referencing. Seriously, that annoys me when hosts do it."

Buffeting is that annoying shaking you can feel from wind hitting the car. It usually shows up at higher speeds and can be worse with things like windows, racks, or certain shapes on the car.

Concept

salt flats

"I know when we did the salt flats, we wanted you to know how fast we were going. We've certainly done it."

Salt flats are huge, flat areas covered in salt that people use to test how fast a car can go. The surface is very smooth and straight, so it’s easier to get accurate speed numbers.

Term

call speed out

"But look, I understand in some situations you have to call speed out, but it's the roll call of speed that drives me nuts."

“Call speed out” means someone says your speed out loud while you’re driving. It’s meant to help the driver stay aware of how fast they’re going without checking a screen.

Concept

track stuff

"But I take your point, if we do more track stuff, it'd be nice to have the overlays. That's really good information."

“Track stuff” means driving on a race course instead of normal roads. When they talk about overlays, they usually mean extra graphics on top of video that show what the car was doing, like speed or when you braked.

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