Reddick's Drive To Five, O'Reilly's EV Scare, Stephen A Smith Controversy, Talladega Preview!
About this episode
Kansas delivered late-race drama again, and Tyler Reddick’s early-season surge is the big storyline: multiple wins across different tracks, often decided in overtime or final-caution chaos, while his team’s execution keeps him near the top in laps led and stage points. The hosts debate overtime’s “gimmick” effect and whether it should be limited or track-specific. They also dig into intermediate-package predictability, Trackhouse/Kyle Busch struggles, and Talladega week—full fields, severe-weather concerns, and a chaotic set of win picks across Cup and O’Reilly.
Kansas
"We got a lot on the docket tonight when it comes to talk about this past weekend at Kansas, whether it be Cup or O'Reilly, which started just really weird."
They’re talking about a NASCAR race weekend at Kansas Speedway. Different tracks make cars behave differently, so what works at one place may not work at another.
The hosts are referring to a NASCAR weekend at Kansas, which typically means racing at Kansas Speedway. Track-specific factors like banking, surface grip, and how cars handle in traffic can strongly affect race strategy and outcomes.
Cup or O'Reilly
"We got a lot on the docket tonight when it comes to talk about this past weekend at Kansas, whether it be Cup or O'Reilly, which started just really weird."
They’re talking about two different NASCAR series. The top series and the O’Reilly series don’t always race the same way, so the conversation can change depending on which one they mean.
The hosts mention “Cup or O’Reilly,” which refers to NASCAR’s top series (Cup) and the O’Reilly series (a lower-tier NASCAR national series). Coverage across series matters because car setups, competition level, and driver experience can differ.
EVs, CUVs
"EVs, CUVs, just craziness when it comes to the O'Reilly series and possibilities, but it's Talladega week."
They’re talking about electric cars (EVs) and crossover-style vehicles (CUVs). The hosts are basically saying people are arguing about what the future of racing/automotive could look like.
EVs (electric vehicles) and CUVs (crossover utility vehicles) are being brought up in the context of “possibilities” for the O’Reilly series. That’s a nod to how racing and automotive brands discuss electrification and vehicle categories, even when NASCAR is still dominated by internal-combustion racecars.
Talladega week
"but it's Talladega week. Guys, how are we doing on this fine Wednesday evening, where I think for the first time all year, it's like bright and sunny outside as we go live."
They’re getting ready for the next race at Talladega. Talladega is famous for cars running in big groups and using drafting to go faster.
“Talladega week” signals the show is shifting focus to the upcoming NASCAR event at Talladega Superspeedway. Talladega is known for high-speed pack racing, drafting, and the unique strategy that comes with restrictor-plate-style racing dynamics.
Nissan
"I think Claude are actually going out to Nissan Stadium to be at the Titans draft party tomorrow night."
They mention Nissan because the event is happening at Nissan Stadium. It’s just a brand name tied to the venue, not a car detail.
Nissan is mentioned in connection with the Titans draft party at Nissan Stadium. While not a racing term, it’s a major automaker brand that often appears in sports sponsorships and marketing.
draft
"It's all draft. We're just drafting through the week, frankly. Love it. We already got a flip out of the way before we even hit Talladega."
Drafting means driving close behind another car. The car in front cuts through the air, so the car behind has an easier time going faster and can try to pass.
In racing, “draft” (drafting) is when a car follows closely behind another to reduce aerodynamic drag. That can help the trailing car gain speed and make passing easier, especially on superspeedways.
Cup race
"But let's talk about Kansas. So the Cup race, we can dance around and talk about different aspects of it. But let's just take everything head on when it comes to the biggest story here."
A “Cup race” is NASCAR’s main, top-level race. It’s where the biggest teams and drivers compete for the most important results.
“Cup race” refers to NASCAR’s top national series event (the NASCAR Cup Series). It’s the premier level of stock-car racing, so the teams, cars, and stakes are typically the biggest.
the chase
"Gee, it's almost like someone on a show thought he would win at least seven races before the chase."
In NASCAR, “the chase” means the playoff part of the season. Drivers aren’t just racing for wins—they’re also trying to qualify and then earn the championship during the final stretch.
In NASCAR, “the chase” refers to the playoff-style stretch where drivers accumulate points during the regular season and then compete for the championship. It’s a different format than many other motorsports, where the championship is decided purely by season-long points without a separate playoff phase.
Kota
"I think Kota may be the one exception where you're like, yeah, he was dominant, held off Shane Van Gisburg and most of the afternoon."
“Kota” is shorthand for the Circuit of the Americas track in Austin. It’s a track with lots of turns, so being fast isn’t just about top speed—it’s about how well you handle the corners and tires.
“Kota” is a common nickname for Circuit of the Americas (COTA) in Austin, Texas. COTA is a road-course-style NASCAR stop where braking zones, corner exit traction, and managing tire wear can heavily influence who leads late in the race.
Atlanta
"...he led one lap in the Daytona 500 Atlanta."
Atlanta is a NASCAR track where races can get intense and fast. The hosts are basically saying Reddick has been strong in different places, not just one track.
Atlanta Motor Speedway (often shortened to “Atlanta”) is a NASCAR venue known for its high-speed racing and pack dynamics. The hosts mention “Daytona 500 Atlanta,” likely referring to multiple races/venues, but the key takeaway is that Reddick’s performance includes leading laps and making late moves across different tracks.
last lap pass
"It was a last lap pass Kansas. [261.6s] It was a last lap."
A “last lap pass” means someone gets ahead right at the end of the race. It usually happens because their car is working better at the finish and they pick the right moment to make the move.
A “last lap pass” is a late-race overtake that typically requires the driver to time the move perfectly—often after drafting, tire management, and setting up the car’s position earlier in the run. In NASCAR, these passes are memorable because small changes in speed and grip near the end can decide the win.
late race heroics
"But, you know, these races are a lot of these wins are requiring late race heroics. He's not winning them by eight seconds."
“Late race heroics” refers to a driver and team making decisive moves near the end—often during restarts, late cautions, or high-pressure strategy windows. It usually means they’re gaining track position or managing tires/fuel better than rivals when it matters most.
NASCAR overtime
"NASCAR rules NASCAR overtime. We still got ourselves another thrilling Kansas finish."
Sometimes a crash or caution happens near the end of a NASCAR race. If it does, NASCAR may add extra time so the race can end with cars racing each other instead of just staying under caution.
NASCAR overtime is an extra attempt to finish a race under green-flag conditions after a late caution. If the race doesn’t reach its scheduled distance before the caution, NASCAR extends it using specific restart rules so the finish isn’t decided entirely under yellow.
wind column
"But I will say, I don't think that like, even though statistically on the wind column, it's similar to like 1987 day Larnhart. It's vastly, vastly different just because of 199 laps lead on the year."
They’re talking about the number of wins a driver has. It’s a quick way to compare who’s been winning races, even though other stats can tell a fuller story.
The “wind column” (likely “win column”) is a shorthand for how many races a driver has won. In NASCAR discussions, it’s often compared to other stats like laps led, points, and regular-season standings to judge performance beyond just wins.
laps lead on the year
"It's vastly, vastly different just because of 199 laps lead on the year. When you compare to some of the others in the field, his team owner, 575 already with Denny Hamlin, 499 for Kyle Larson, 272 for C bell and 244 for Blaney."
This is a stat for how many laps, across the whole season, a driver spent leading. Leading lots of laps usually means the car was strong, even if the driver didn’t win every time.
“Laps led on the year” is a season-long measure of how often a driver’s car is in front. It’s a strong indicator of speed and race control, even if it doesn’t always translate directly into wins or points.
regular season points lead
"And I do think he's a championship contender. And if anything, the favorite with, with how I'd made the prediction, he wouldn't lose the points lead for the regular season."
They’re talking about who’s leading the standings during the regular part of the season. In NASCAR, that lead can affect how strong your position is going into the next phase of the year.
The hosts discuss whether the driver can keep the “points lead for the regular season,” which matters because NASCAR’s season structure uses points to determine playoff positioning. Losing that lead can change who has momentum and how much pressure a team faces later.
next gen era
"It's just, it's impressive that in the next gen era, yes, maybe luck at times might have fallen into place for him. But that this team has executed and put themselves in position to win at pretty much every kind of track on the schedule now."
NASCAR has updated the race car rules and design with its “next gen” package. That means teams have to adjust their setups and strategies, and it can make racing feel different from older cars.
The “next gen era” refers to NASCAR’s newer generation of race cars and the rules/vehicle package that came with it. It changes how teams set up cars, how they manage tire wear, and how competitive parity plays out across different tracks.
point system that rewards winning
"They're really close on top five actually, but the win, the wins is the biggest kicker because of how many extra points you get for winning races right now, which is why I am glad we're in a position this year where points matter so much this season. And we're seeing, we're seeing, you know, there was obviously a reward in the last system for winning, but we're seeing the true reward and a point system that rewards winning right now in Tyler Redick."
In NASCAR, your season score comes from points. This year’s format gives more value to actually winning races, not just finishing near the front.
The hosts are discussing how NASCAR’s current points format places extra emphasis on winning races. In this system, winning can swing standings more than simply finishing consistently, which is why they highlight “extra points you get for winning races.”
Chevrolet
"Yeah, I think, I think right now everything's just coming together perfectly for Redick obviously the Toyotas are fast and I think some of that again has to do with Ford's inconsistency and and Chevrolet having a new body a little slow out the gate obviously half the"
They’re saying Chevrolet is dealing with a newer car body and it hasn’t been as quick right away. New bodywork can change how the car grips the track and how fast it feels in races.
Chevrolet is mentioned as having a “new body” that’s been slow early on. In NASCAR, a new body style can affect aerodynamics and how the car generates downforce, which can take time for teams to fully optimize across different tracks.
stage points
"But again, if you look at some of the underlying stats he's fifth in laps led fourth in stage points earned. Again, it's a lot of late race dodge the record Daytona only minimal cosmetic damage on that record Atlanta."
NASCAR races are split into stages. Drivers can earn points in each stage, so you can score even if you don’t win the whole race.
Stage points are awarded in NASCAR during designated segments of a race (“stages”). Teams earn points based on where their car finishes in each stage, which can matter a lot for the overall points standings even if a driver doesn’t win the race.
O'Reilly championships
"So like, it's kind of just been a lot of dominoes falling perfectly into place for these late race heroics and Redick's no stranger to late race heroics I mean we watched him win back to back O'Reilly championships at homestead homestead in the cup car remember what he did there two years ago that pass."
They’re referencing a NASCAR championship event that’s sponsored by O’Reilly. The hosts bring it up to remind listeners that Reddick has won big before at Homestead.
This refers to NASCAR’s season-ending or championship events sponsored by O’Reilly. The segment uses it as a reference point for Reddick’s past success at Homestead, tying earlier wins to current confidence.
finish under caution vs green-flag finish
"We get the most frustrated when they can't race back to the checkered... ended under caution... and then we applauded them when they finally said all right we'll hold the yellow..."
A “caution” finish means the race ends while cars are slowed down and not really racing each other. A “green-flag” finish means they’re racing normally to the end. Overtime is meant to help get the green-flag finish, but some people think it can be unfair.
The discussion contrasts ending the race under caution (cars slowed and racing limited) with a green-flag finish (full racing speed and position battles). Overtime is designed to avoid caution-ending finishes, but the hosts debate whether that always produces a better or more “earned” result.
restart right next to the leader
"If NASCAR tomorrow announced hey if the race has a caution late we're going to go beyond the scheduled distance and the second third fourth place guys are going to restart right next to the leader..."
The idea here is that if a caution happens late, the cars behind would line up right beside the leader. That means a big lead might not matter as much, because the restart bunches everyone back together.
The transcript describes a hypothetical rule where, if overtime were removed, the restart would place the second- and third-place cars alongside the leader. That would dramatically change strategy and how much a big late-race gap matters, because restarts can erase large leads quickly.
road course (NASCAR)
"...at a track like Kansas or a road course where big leads are common."
They’re using “road course” as a general type of track with turns and different racing dynamics than an oval. Their point is that on road courses, big leads can last longer, so overtime can feel like it changes the result too much.
A road course is brought up as another track type where big leads can be more stable, making overtime controversial. The hosts imply that track layout and racing dynamics influence whether overtime improves the racing product or just reshuffles the field late.
restart and trying to finish the race under green
"So what's the harm in just having another restart and trying to finish the race under green... I feel like I kind of like this idea."
When a caution comes out, the race slows and cars bunch up. A restart lets them go back to racing at full speed, and “under green” means the race is run normally again. The hosts are discussing whether NASCAR should allow more restarts so the finish is more likely to happen while cars are racing hard, not cruising under caution.
In NASCAR, a “restart” happens after a caution period, and “under green” means racing at full speed with the field not controlled by the pace car. The debate here is whether allowing another restart to try to finish under green could change strategy and reduce the chance of a race ending under caution.
super speedway
"Or if a caution comes out later for instance like a super speedway you can get bailed out first different things... Whereas like I feel like there could be more urgency if you were thinking like shit man I got six to go..."
A “super speedway” refers to NASCAR’s largest high-speed tracks (typically 2+ miles) where drafting and aerodynamics dominate. The hosts mention that strategy often changes there—drivers may wait longer to make moves because the race can effectively end right after a late restart or late-lap decision.
fuel pickup issue
"...whether it was the car or Reddick because Reddick had said that there was like maybe a fuel pickup issue or like the ran out of fuel he thought he did he got into the wall."
A fuel pickup issue is when the car doesn’t pull fuel from the tank the way it should. If it happens late in the race, the driver can run out of fuel or lose power right when they need to be fastest.
A “fuel pickup issue” means the engine isn’t getting fuel properly from the tank—often due to pickup location, fuel slosh, or a mechanical/electrical problem. In NASCAR, late-race fuel problems can be catastrophic because teams calculate fuel windows tightly and there’s little time to recover track position.
ran out of fuel
"...Reddick had said that there was like maybe a fuel pickup issue or like the ran out of fuel he thought he did he got into the wall."
Running out of fuel means the car can’t keep going at race speed because it has no usable gas left. In a race, that’s usually a disaster—especially near the end—because you can’t just “make it up” quickly.
“Ran out of fuel” describes a complete loss of usable fuel supply, which can force a driver to slow dramatically or stop. The segment frames it as a key turning point that can flip who wins when a leader’s advantage is erased by an unexpected fuel problem.
red flag
"...I got six to go maybe we could get it going but if it's a big rack or red flag or any of that."
A red flag means the race is stopped for safety. When that happens, teams and drivers have to reset their plans, and it can completely change how the final laps play out.
A “red flag” stops the race entirely due to a serious hazard on track. The hosts mention it as one of several race-ending or race-resetting events that can change urgency and strategy late in the run.
restarts in NASCAR
"...there is still the problem ultimately of like restarts in NASCAR... the second place guy gets to restart literally right next to the leader regardless of how far behind they were like that is a little gimmicky."
A restart happens when NASCAR bunches the cars back up after a caution. Because everyone is lined up close together again, the driver who was behind can suddenly be right beside the leader, which can feel a little strange.
Restarts are a key part of NASCAR strategy and drama because the running order is compressed and the leader’s advantage can shrink. The transcript highlights how the second-place car can restart right next to the leader even if it was far behind, which some fans view as unfair.
Phoenix last fall
"...when it comes to these late races a guy like Hamlin at Phoenix with a huge lead... Denny Hamlin loses back to back races and overtime..."
They’re talking about a specific NASCAR race at Phoenix where the finish and late-race rules mattered a lot. It’s used as an example in the discussion about whether the rules feel fair.
The hosts reference Phoenix as a race where a late-race situation (including overtime) influenced the outcome and sparked debate. In NASCAR coverage, Phoenix often comes up when discussing how the current rules and restart procedures play out.
stage yellows
"...they've shown in the past like stage yellows they did get rid of those at road courses but not everywhere else... stage yellow thing at at road courses when they took them away."
Stage yellows are planned cautions that split a race into segments. Teams use them to make strategy calls, and NASCAR has changed where they apply depending on the type of track.
Stage yellows are cautions that occur at predetermined points in a NASCAR race to break it into stages. They affect strategy and can change how teams manage tires, fuel, and track position; the hosts discuss how NASCAR removed them on road courses but not everywhere.
Bristol
"...road courses versus Talladega versus Bristol for example so if they did want to have modified overtime rules for different track types."
Bristol is another NASCAR track with a distinct style of racing. They bring it up to show that not every track produces the same kind of racing, so rules might not fit equally everywhere.
Bristol is mentioned alongside Talladega and road courses to illustrate how track characteristics change racing behavior. The hosts imply that NASCAR’s late-race procedures may need to account for these differences.
intermediate package
"...after Las Vegas feeling like in my words like a 550 race a little more is the intermediate is the intermediate package falling off... teams continue to learn and get smarter and have optimized their intermediate setups..."
The intermediate package is NASCAR’s set of rules and car setup choices for certain mid-length tracks. The hosts are wondering if teams have figured it out so well that the racing isn’t as unpredictable or exciting as it used to be.
The “intermediate package” refers to NASCAR’s track-specific setup and rules package used at intermediate-length ovals (often around 1.5 miles). The hosts discuss whether it’s becoming less effective at creating excitement because teams have learned and optimized their setups.
Las Vegas
"So do we think after seeing this after Las Vegas feeling like in my words like a 550 race a little more is the intermediate..."
Las Vegas is used as a recent reference point for how intermediate-track racing has been performing. The discussion connects it to whether the intermediate package is “falling off,” meaning it may be producing less exciting racing than before.
Coke 600
"Let me decide after the coke 600 is my answer to that because last year's coke 600 was pretty entertaining for the majority of it."
The hosts say they’ll decide about the intermediate package after the Coke 600, using it as a benchmark race. The Coke 600 is a major NASCAR event, so it’s treated as a meaningful test of whether the racing product is still delivering.
Hendrick
"It's JGR 2311 and Hendrick up front."
Hendrick is a major NASCAR racing team. When they’re “up front,” it means their cars are running fastest and competing for the lead.
Hendrick Motorsports is one of NASCAR’s top teams, frequently fielding multiple cars that run for wins and stage points. In this segment, the hosts are contrasting Hendrick’s performance with Toyota/Joe Gibbs Racing and other organizations.
JGR 2311
"It's JGR 2311 and Hendrick up front."
That’s NASCAR shorthand for a specific team’s car. “JGR” is Joe Gibbs Racing, and “2311” is the entry number you’ll see on the broadcast.
JGR 2311 refers to Joe Gibbs Racing’s car/entry number used in NASCAR. NASCAR broadcasts often show team and car numbers together, so “JGR 2311” identifies which Toyota entry was running up front.
Roush Fenway keselowski
"Our Roush Fenway keselowski literally finished 6th 10th and 11th in both races."
That’s a NASCAR team name. The hosts are saying RFK’s cars weren’t winning, but they were still finishing near the front.
Roush Fenway Keselowski Racing (RFK Racing) is a NASCAR organization known for running competitive Ford teams. The hosts mention their cars finishing in the 6th/10th/11th range, using it as evidence about how the field stacked up.
Penske
"And Penske sucked in both races."
Penske is a top NASCAR team. The speaker is basically saying their cars weren’t as fast as the leaders in those races.
Penske Racing (Team Penske) is another major NASCAR organization. Here, the hosts say Penske “sucked” in both races, implying their cars weren’t matching the pace of the leading Toyota/Hendrick entries.
Kyle Larson dominate a stage
"Like they were the exact same races. So it's clear at this point that like the Toyotas and some of the Hendrick cars have figured them out and are that's why you're going to see Kyle Larson dominate a stage."
NASCAR races are split into sections called stages. If someone “dominates a stage,” they’re the fastest and earn the most points during that part of the race.
In NASCAR, “stages” are timed segments of the race where drivers can earn points for finishing positions within each stage. Dominating a stage means a driver’s car is performing at the front for that portion of the event, not just at the finish.
Tyler Reddick dominate a stage
"You're going to see Danny Hamlin and then Tyler Reddick dominate a stage. It's the same thing we saw at Las Vegas."
Tyler Reddick is expected to be one of the fastest drivers in a stage. That usually means his car is working well and he’s managing tires better than others.
Tyler Reddick is mentioned as another driver expected to dominate a stage, reinforcing the idea that certain teams have found a repeatable speed advantage. Stage dominance also signals strong car balance and tire management for that segment.
Danny Hamlin
"You're going to see Danny Hamlin and then Tyler Reddick dominate a stage."
Danny Hamlin is another top NASCAR driver. The speaker is using him as a reference point for who’s running fast and who others are trying to catch.
Danny Hamlin is referenced as part of the leading group that can dominate stages. The hosts later connect the race dynamics to Reddick running down Hamlin, suggesting Hamlin’s pace is a key benchmark for the leaders.
ARCA race
"So what you get then is what I compared to an ARCA race where there's like 10 cars that look really fast and could maybe have a shot at the win."
ARCA is another racing series (kind of like a “feeder” series to NASCAR). The speaker is using it as a comparison for how the field can split into a few fast cars and many slower ones.
An ARCA race refers to ARCA Menards Series competition, which is a different NASCAR-affiliated series. The hosts use ARCA as an analogy: sometimes only a small subset of cars looks truly fast, while the rest are off the pace.
Joey Logano
"I mean Joey Logano was off the pace compared to the leaders on Sunday."
Joey Logano is a top NASCAR driver, and the hosts are using his “off the pace” performance as evidence that not every team has solved the current setup challenge. They note he’s been inconsistent this season, which affects how reliable the performance trends are.
Darlington
"And you know I know we saw that at Darlington but that's not usually the case."
Darlington is a specific NASCAR track with its own quirks. The hosts are pointing out Logano struggled there too, so it might be something about the car/track combination.
Darlington Raceway is known for its unique layout and setup demands, often making cars behave differently than at other tracks. The hosts mention Darlington as a place where Joey Logano also looked off the pace, implying it may be track-related or setup-related rather than a one-off issue.
tires matter
"So that's all I'll say is I don't know that it's the package yet because we still saw multi-group racing, fast cars could pass, tires matter."
Tires aren’t just “there”—they wear out and lose grip during the race. When the tires behave differently, it changes who can go fast and who can catch the leaders.
Tire performance is a major variable in NASCAR because grip and wear change lap-by-lap, affecting how well cars can pass and how stable they feel in traffic. The hosts connect tire behavior to why certain drivers could run down others and why the race outcome became more predictable.
multi-group racing
"So that's all I'll say is I don't know that it's the package yet because we still saw multi-group racing, fast cars could pass, tires matter."
Sometimes in a race, cars sort of split into groups—some are faster and some are slower. “Multi-group racing” means more than one of those performance groups showed up during the event.
“Multi-group racing” describes how the field breaks into separate performance clusters, where some cars are faster than others but can still pass within or between groups. The hosts use it to argue that the race still had variety, even if the overall pace was becoming predictable.
silly season
"...I wanted to kind of talk about Ross because you know we talked about there's a big silly season coming up. There's, we really haven't heard too much."
“Silly season” is NASCAR’s nickname for the time when drivers and teams are making contract moves. People spend a lot of time guessing who will end up in which car.
In NASCAR, “silly season” refers to the period when driver contracts, team alliances, and car-number assignments are in flux. It’s when fans and teams speculate about who will move where, often based on contract status and performance.
multi-year deal
"Because Austin Cintrick this year and Cintrick could move to the 21 because Josh Berry hasn't performed. He had a multi-year deal starting last year."
A “multi-year deal” is a contract that lasts for multiple seasons. It usually means the driver is tied to that team for a while, so they can’t easily jump ship.
A “multi-year deal” means a contract that covers more than one season. In NASCAR, multi-year agreements can limit a driver’s ability to switch teams during silly season, unless there’s an option, buyout, or release.
free agent
"But yeah, Ross is the A plus free agent in all this. He's the headliner."
A “free agent” is a driver who isn’t committed to one team. If a good team has an opening, they can try to sign that driver.
A “free agent” in NASCAR means a driver who isn’t locked into a contract for the next season(s) and can potentially sign with a different team. That makes them highly sought after, especially if a top team has an open seat.
the 48
"...I think it's obvious if you're Ross Chastain and the 48 is available, would you take it?"
In NASCAR, each car has a number. “The 48” means a specific car/seat, and the hosts are asking whether Ross Chastain would take that opportunity if it opened up.
“The 48” refers to NASCAR’s car number (commonly associated with a specific team/seat). When the hosts say “if the 48 is available,” they mean a particular competitive ride/contract slot that could attract a top free agent.
Trackhouse
"The Hendrick Alliance is valuable, but you do have a good thing going with, with Trackhouse. You know, you hate to sever that relationship."
Trackhouse is a NASCAR team. The hosts are saying that if a driver has something working well with Trackhouse, it can be hard to give that up even if another opportunity looks tempting.
Trackhouse is a NASCAR team/organization, and the hosts discuss the value of the relationship a driver has with Trackhouse. The implication is that team chemistry, resources, and support can matter as much as raw talent when deciding whether to switch rides.
top 10s or more
"Top 10s or more if he were in the two car? Probably."
“Top 10s or more” is shorthand for counting how many races a driver finishes in the top 10 (or better). The hosts are framing it as a way to estimate the impact of switching to a different car number.
top fives
"Well, Austin Sinterk has the same amount of top fives as Ross."
“Top fives” means finishing 5th place or better. The hosts are comparing how often different drivers reach that higher finish range.
“Top fives” refers to finishing 5th or better. The hosts compare top-five totals between drivers to argue about relative performance and how a change in ride might affect results.
Xfinity series
"He, you know, he seemed like just a career light model guy. He got to have a good experience in the Xfinity series. He won a cup race."
The Xfinity Series is NASCAR’s “middle” level. Many drivers race there first to gain experience and then move up to the top NASCAR series.
The Xfinity Series is NASCAR’s second-tier national series, positioned below the Cup Series. Drivers often use it to develop skills, build experience, and prove they can compete at a higher level before moving up.
data and resources
"I think being a three car team, you should divvy up data and resources better than a two car team. I'd go yes, but only slightly."
They’re talking about how teams collect information from the cars and share it. If a team has more cars, it can spread the work and learn faster—if it organizes the information well.
The hosts discuss how a team’s performance depends on how well it “divvies up” data and resources across multiple cars. In NASCAR, teams gather telemetry and setup information, and the way that information is shared can affect results.
next gen car
"I mean, Jared, you sent us something earlier that what Corolla Joy was saying, and it gave some good points that, you know, when the next gen car first come out,"
“Next Gen” is NASCAR’s newer race car rules and design. It changed how teams build and tune their cars, so early results and learning curves matter.
“Next Gen” is NASCAR’s newer generation of race car platform introduced to standardize parts and improve competition. The hosts are referencing how teams’ performance and data collection changed when the Next Gen car first came out.
Toyota Corolla
"...n, Jared, you sent us something earlier that what Corolla Joy was saying, and it gave some good points tha..."
The Toyota Corolla is a regular, everyday car that’s built for commuting and errands. It’s popular because it’s usually easy to live with and doesn’t require special care. The podcast mentioned it while discussing some points someone brought up about the Corolla.
The Toyota Corolla is a compact, everyday passenger car known for being practical and widely used. It may come up in a NASCAR-focused discussion because it represents the broader “street” side of Toyota, even if the race cars themselves are different. The podcast reference suggests the conversation was about points made around the Corolla specifically.
same equipment
"Kyle Busch is getting outrun in the same equipment by Austin Dillon. And Austin Dillon's not a bad driver, but he shouldn't be better than Kyle Busch, even in bad equipment."
They’re saying Kyle Busch and Austin Dillon are basically in similar cars. So if one is clearly faster, it suggests the problem might be how the car is set up or how the team is calling the race, not just the car itself.
“Same equipment” means the drivers are competing with comparable cars/parts and team resources, so differences in results are more likely tied to execution, setup choices, and driver/crew performance. In NASCAR, even with standardized elements, small setup and strategy differences can still create noticeable performance gaps.
crew chief
"My only pushback will be Bush has a new crew chief who, I mean, based on some of the radio transmissions, I don't know that I love his..."
In NASCAR, the crew chief is the person calling the shots for strategy and car adjustments during the race. If the crew chief is new or making questionable calls, the driver can end up fighting the car.
A crew chief in NASCAR is the lead strategist and car-prep decision-maker, directing setup changes, pit strategy, and race calls. The segment suggests Kyle Busch’s new crew chief may be struggling, which can affect performance even with strong driver talent.
radio transmissions
"based on some of the radio transmissions, I don't know that I love his, I don't know that he might be in over his head a little."
During a race, the driver and crew chief talk over the radio. The hosts are basically judging how things are going based on what they heard in those conversations.
“Radio transmissions” are the real-time communications between the driver and crew chief during a NASCAR race. The hosts are using the tone/content of those calls as indirect evidence of whether the team is executing well or whether the crew chief/driver is struggling.
RCR
"He deserves to be in a better ride, I think, than the eight car and RCR equipment. But he's just, if he hasn't given up, he has apathy..."
RCR (Richard Childress Racing) is a NASCAR team. When they say “RCR equipment,” they mean the car and team setup RCR is providing.
RCR is Richard Childress Racing, a long-running NASCAR organization. The hosts mention “RCR equipment” to criticize the competitiveness of the team’s current package relative to what they believe Kyle Busch can do.
eight car
"He deserves to be in a better ride, I think, than the eight car and RCR equipment. But he's just, if he hasn't given up, he has apathy at the, he has fallen into apathy..."
In NASCAR, each team runs a car with a specific number. The “eight car” means the #8 entry, and they’re saying Kyle Busch should be in a stronger team/car than that one.
The “eight car” refers to the NASCAR car number Kyle Busch is driving (car #8) and, by extension, the team/entry he’s associated with. The hosts argue he deserves a better ride than the #8 team’s current “equipment,” implying the car/organization isn’t competitive enough.
buy out Zillich's contract
"I mean, I made that prediction earlier this year that I thought Hendrick in the next two years would buy out, would buy out Zillich's contract."
A contract buyout is when a team pays money to end a driver’s contract early. It’s basically a way to get control of where the driver goes next.
A “contract buyout” means one team (or group) pays to end another team’s contractual rights to a driver. In NASCAR, this can be used to secure a driver sooner, change the lineup, or avoid waiting for the contract to expire.
ride swap
"And maybe Zillich and Bowman do a ride swap and Bowman's a 99 next season."
A ride swap means drivers switch teams or car assignments. The idea is to put each driver in the best situation for results and sponsorship.
A “ride swap” is a driver lineup change where teams exchange drivers between cars/numbers. NASCAR teams often do this to match driver strengths to specific cars, sponsorship needs, and performance goals for the season.
nine races into this season
"We're only nine races into this season, guys. I mean, I feel like we're a little, I know it's our job to debate these."
They’re saying it’s still early in the season—only nine races in. So it may be too soon to judge teams and drivers based on a small sample of results.
“Nine races into this season” highlights how early the current performance picture is. In NASCAR, early results can be misleading because teams still refine setups, learn tire behavior, and adjust strategy as the season progresses.
learning curve
"[1972.0s] I think he's 33rd in points because the team is failing him. [1974.4s] And like, I think, this is his learning curve right now. [1979.5s] It's just a 90 degree angle."
In racing, a “learning curve” means a driver is still getting used to how the car and team work. It’s normal to have some rough results at first while they figure out the best way to drive.
A “learning curve” in racing is the period where a driver adapts to a new car, team, setup approach, and competition level. Even talented drivers can struggle early because they’re still building consistency and understanding what the car needs lap after lap.
top tier equipment
"[1982.0s] He has no room for any error whatsoever. [1985.9s] Like we saw what he could do in top tier equipment and he went out and showed the generational talent. [1991.6s] And I don't use that phrase lightly that he is."
“Top tier equipment” basically means the driver has a really strong team and a fast car. If they do well with that kind of setup, it often shows they’re capable even if things aren’t working as well elsewhere.
“Top tier equipment” means a driver has access to a highly competitive team and race car package—better engineering support, car preparation, and performance baseline. When a driver performs well in top-tier equipment, it suggests their skill is real, and that results may improve if they get similar resources again.
factory support
"[1995.5s] And he's not, he's just, he ain't going to do that with spy. [1997.9s] I mean, Ross, who is a tenured driver, championship caliber driver is mustering up 20th in points, barely beating out A.J. Allmendinger with no factory support on the year. [2008.8s] Like, I don't think that's the drivers."
“Factory support” means the car brand is helping the team with extra resources. That can include better parts and more engineering help, which usually makes it easier to run up front.
“Factory support” refers to direct backing from an automaker (or its racing program) with resources like engineering, parts, and development. In NASCAR, factory-supported teams often have an advantage because they can get the latest technology and more consistent performance updates.
Chevy
"[2012.8s] I'm floating out there right now. [2015.1s] What if, um, you know, if track house is not, it's not pleased with how things are going with Chevy, what if they're going to position themselves in a good opportunity ahead of colleague to be the, the, the face of it. [2027.9s] They're going to have to dodge whenever they come in and be smart."
“Chevy” means Chevrolet, the car brand. In NASCAR, which manufacturer a team works with can influence how fast the cars are and what kind of support they get.
“Chevy” refers to Chevrolet, one of the major NASCAR manufacturers. Manufacturer relationships can affect competitiveness through parts, engineering support, and how quickly teams can adapt to rule or performance changes.
OEM knocking on the door
"[2043.5s] SVG obviously inflated their stats at road courses last year, but they're declining. [2047.4s] But yeah, that's one of the options is there's at least one OEM knocking on the door, getting a cup. [2052.6s] Could track house be that team?"
An “OEM” is the car company itself. If they’re “knocking on the door,” it usually means they’re looking at teaming up with a race team or increasing their involvement.
An “OEM” (Original Equipment Manufacturer) is the automaker that builds the road cars—like Chevrolet, Ford, or Toyota. When the transcript says an OEM is “knocking on the door,” it implies the automaker is considering partnering with or sponsoring a NASCAR team to gain a competitive presence.
bubble cut line
"And then on the other end, the bubble cut line here. So Priess is up 38."
The “bubble” is the cutoff line where drivers are either safe or in danger of falling out of the next round. When they say someone is near the bubble cut line, it means they’re close to needing better results.
The “bubble cut line” is the boundary in the standings between drivers who are safely in and those who are at risk of missing the next phase (like the playoffs or elimination cutoff). It’s a shorthand for how close someone is to being “in” versus “out.”
on the bubble
"They're all in the, on the bubble. Yeah. I'm surprised that McDowell is, is the third one in that far back."
“On the bubble” means you’re not fully safe yet. Your spot depends on how you and others finish in the next races.
Being “on the bubble” means a driver’s points position is precarious—close enough to the cutoff that small results can determine whether they advance or miss the next stage. It’s a common way to describe playoff qualification scenarios in NASCAR.
Watkins Glen must win
"My thoughts that I laid out last week, like Watkins Glen must win. San Diego must win."
Watkins Glen is one of NASCAR’s road-course races. The hosts are saying it’s especially important to win there because it can strongly affect the points race.
Watkins Glen is a road course on the NASCAR schedule, and the hosts are framing it as a key “must-win” event for their points strategy. In NASCAR, road courses can swing standings because they’re different from the usual oval races.
San Diego must win
"San Diego must win. Sure. And Sanoma must win."
“San Diego” here is being used as a race target in the season’s points discussion. NASCAR’s schedule includes events at different tracks, and the hosts are treating this one as critical for gaining or protecting points.
Sonoma must win
"Sure. And Sanoma must win. Being a foreign in his side, like it is for whatever reason, that's got them behind the eight ball here."
Sonoma is a road-course race. The hosts are saying it’s a must-win because road courses can change the points battle a lot.
Sonoma (likely Sonoma Raceway) is a road course, and the hosts are calling it a must-win to maximize points. Road courses often create bigger position swings than some ovals, so strong results there can be decisive late in the season.
points could be at the end
"I think it could be the difference with how close, uh, with how close the points could be at the end. And laying on to those, you know, to hope that they can win those three road course races and get those points."
They’re saying the championship race might come down to a small points gap. That means a few good finishes late in the season can swing everything.
This is a discussion of how tight the championship standings could become. In NASCAR, small differences in points can come from a few positions gained or lost, making late-season performance critical.
road course races
"And laying on to those, you know, to hope that they can win those three road course races and get those points. Well, and I saw a chart."
A road course is a track with lots of turns and braking, not just left turns on an oval. The hosts are saying these races matter a lot for the points race.
Road course races differ from NASCAR’s typical oval races because they involve more braking, turning, and changing grip through corners. The hosts are treating road courses as key opportunities to gain points because they can produce different results than the ovals.
running position and finishing positions
"Well, and I saw a chart. I don't know if it was Daniel Suspitas that put it out or who it was of like most improved running position and finishing positions this year."
Running position is where you are while the race is happening. Finishing position is where you end up when the race is over, and both can show whether a driver is improving.
“Running position” is where a driver is during the race at a given moment, while “finishing position” is where they end up at the checkered flag. The hosts reference a chart of improved running/finishing results to argue a driver is progressing.
16th place line
"It's just, I think the competition is a little tougher, I guess, around that 16th place line. But plenty of time to go."
They’re talking about a specific spot in the standings during races—around 16th. If it’s very competitive there, it’s harder to move up and score better results.
The “16th place line” is being used as a threshold for how competitive the field is. When the competition is tighter around a specific finishing range, it becomes harder to gain positions and points without a strong strategy or execution.
ratings
"With that, let's look at the ratings. Cup got 2.9926 million viewers on big Fox up 26% from last year, which was on FS1 though."
They’re talking about how many people watched the races on TV. They compare current viewership to last year and across different channels.
The hosts shift to TV viewership “ratings,” comparing audience numbers across networks and years. This is a common way to evaluate how NASCAR’s broadcast reach is changing over time.
0.9 million viewers
"So yeah, 2.9 million on network TV doesn't look great. And like you said, third lowest in Fox's history, NASCAR history, but I think some of that is Kansas has just been."
They mention how many people watched on TV and say it wasn’t very impressive. TV ratings like this are often used to judge popularity.
The hosts reference a specific TV audience size (2.9 million) and interpret it as weak for network television. In sports media, these audience figures are commonly used to gauge mainstream appeal.
third lowest in Fox's history, NASCAR history
"And like you said, third lowest in Fox's history, NASCAR history, but I think some of that is Kansas has just been."
They’re saying the broadcast was one of the least-watched NASCAR races on Fox. It’s about how the TV show performed, not how the cars raced.
The hosts claim the race finished among the lowest-rated NASCAR events in Fox’s history and NASCAR’s broader TV history. This is a media-performance framing rather than a technical racing concept.
Richmond on big Fox got 3.3 million viewers
"Richmond was on a similar weekend in April. Uh, and it got on big Fox and it got 3.3 million viewers."
They’re comparing Kansas’s TV audience to Richmond’s. The point is that Richmond drew a lot more viewers on Fox.
The hosts compare Kansas’s ratings to Richmond’s, noting Richmond’s higher viewership on major Fox broadcasts. This kind of comparison is used to highlight how different tracks perform under similar TV conditions.
Dale Jr. farewell tour
"...the 2017 Dale Jr. That was his farewell tour."
The segment references Dale Earnhardt Jr.’s 2017 farewell tour and how it performed in viewership/polls. This is a notable NASCAR media moment because it shows how star power and career milestones can influence audience numbers.
Harvick
"Look at this. This is Harvick... Ninth out of 10 polled 2026 races..."
They bring up Harvick while discussing how a particular race did in polls. In NASCAR talk, drivers like him are often used as a shorthand for what kind of attention a race might get.
“Harvick” appears in the context of a specific race’s polling results, likely referring to Kevin Harvick’s event-related mention. In NASCAR, driver-centric storylines often get tied to race previews and audience engagement metrics.
mile and a half races
"Of mile and a half races, it's 45th out of 61 polled since 2019. So in general, people were not as happy with this race."
A “mile and a half” race means the track is about 1.5 miles long. That matters because the track layout and length affect how cars draft and pass each other, which can make the racing feel more or less exciting.
In NASCAR, a “mile and a half” refers to tracks that are 1.5 miles long. Track length affects average speeds, drafting, and how often cars can pass, which can change how fans perceive the racing quality.
550 races
"That's lower than I would have thought because there's a lot of 550 races in those, in that 61."
“550 races” means a race that’s roughly 550 miles long. Longer races usually require more careful planning for tires and fuel, so the strategy can be a big part of how the race plays out.
“550 races” is shorthand for NASCAR’s 550-mile race distance. Race distance influences fuel strategy, tire wear, and how teams plan for long-run pace versus short-run speed.
900 horsepower
"We need more power. 900 horsepower. That's a meme."
“900 horsepower” is basically how much engine power the car is supposed to make. More power can help cars go faster, but race results also depend on tires, setup, and how well the car can put that power down.
“900 horsepower” is a reference to the power output teams target in NASCAR discussions. In racing, more horsepower can improve acceleration and top-end speed, but it also interacts with aerodynamics and traction—so it doesn’t automatically guarantee better racing.
Tommy Baldwin
"SBG says, I do not ever want to hear Tommy Baldwin talk about drivers being hazards racing for nothing ever again."
Tommy Baldwin is a NASCAR figure tied to a team. This part is basically a disagreement about whether certain drivers are being unsafe or reckless during racing.
Tommy Baldwin is associated with NASCAR team ownership/operations (Tommy Baldwin Racing). The comment is criticizing how he talks about drivers being “hazards” while racing, which is about race etiquette and safety framing rather than a technical car detail.
lead lap finish
"Ross, Crash, Stain, Alex Bowman, lead lap finish. Hang the banner."
In NASCAR, cars can end up “a lap down” if they fall behind. A “lead lap finish” means they finished on the same lap as the leader, which usually means they ran well and didn’t get stuck in trouble.
A “lead lap finish” means the car finished on the same lap as the race leader, rather than being a lap down. In NASCAR, being on the lead lap is a strong indicator you avoided major trouble and kept pace through the race.
O'Reilly race
"So there was the O'Reilly race as well. And just as soon as we get into talking about it, Carson Quap will flipped."
NASCAR races are often named after sponsors. “O’Reilly race” just means the NASCAR event that weekend was sponsored by O’Reilly Auto Parts.
The “O’Reilly race” refers to a NASCAR event sponsored by O’Reilly Auto Parts. In NASCAR coverage, the sponsor name is often used instead of the track/date name, so it helps to recognize it as a specific race weekend.
flipped
"And just as soon as we get into talking about it, Carson Quap will flipped. Yeah, I was, I don't remember what I was doing Saturday, but I, you know, watched the Arco race and then I went and did something, I guess."
“Flipped” means the race car rolled over during the crash. It’s scary to watch, but NASCAR cars are built with safety features to protect the driver.
In NASCAR, “flipped” means the car rotated onto its roof or otherwise inverted after contact or loss of control. These incidents are especially dramatic on TV because viewers can see the car’s underside and the driver’s safety systems working.
lap three
"And I'm like, I look at the corner. I'm like, I did, I meant it's lap three. And I'm like, I that's what, how?"
“Lap three” means it happened very early in the race. In the first few laps, cars are bunched up, so small mistakes can lead to big crashes.
“Lap three” indicates the timing of the incident early in the race. Early-lap crashes can happen due to tight pack racing, restarts, or drivers still sorting out grip and line choices.
NASCAR equivalent
"That was a, and that was the NASCAR equivalent. The worst part, and it kind of made it very clear that, you know, the production crew, the commentary crew is not at the racetrack."
They’re basically saying the crash felt like the opening scene of a scary movie—right away you see something intense. It’s a way of describing how shocking the moment looked on TV.
The host compares the crash moment to a “cold open in a horror movie,” calling it the “NASCAR equivalent.” This highlights how NASCAR broadcasts often lead with the most visually intense incident to grab attention and set the tone for the rest of the coverage.
flips
"So you name it, like there's going to be huge hits, flips, guys riding the wall, like the ride in the dentae."
A flip means the car turns over during a crash. It often happens when the car gets hit in a way that lifts it or forces it to rotate.
A flip in NASCAR usually happens when a car gets launched by contact, rides up on another car, or hits the wall at an angle. NASCAR cars are built to protect the driver, but flips are still a major indicator of how violent the incident was.
riding the wall
"So you name it, like there's going to be huge hits, flips, guys riding the wall, like the ride in the dentae."
“Riding the wall” means a car is scraping or sliding along the outside barrier. It usually happens when the car loses traction and gets pushed up high.
“Riding the wall” refers to a car getting high on the banking and sliding along the outside barrier. It’s often a sign of loss of grip or a car being pushed by another vehicle, and it can precede a bigger crash or flip.
went into the fence
"I know there was a big ass crash or somebody like damn near went into the fence on the back stretch."
In NASCAR, the track has walls/fences around it. If a car “goes into the fence,” it usually means it lost control at speed and crashed hard, which can end the run or cause a lot of cleanup.
Hitting the outside wall or fence is a common severe outcome in oval racing when a car loses grip or gets struck. It often indicates a loss of control at speed and can lead to major damage, debris, and red-flag or caution periods.
back stretch
"I know there was a big ass crash or somebody like damn near went into the fence on the back stretch."
A NASCAR track has straight sections and turns. The “back stretch” is one of the long straightaways, where cars are going fast and things can get dangerous quickly if someone loses control.
In NASCAR, the “back stretch” is the long straightaway on the far side of the oval track. It’s a key passing and high-speed zone, so crashes there can be especially violent and hard to recover from.
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