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Sam Murtaugh of Mecum Auctions

Sam Murtaugh of Mecum Auctions

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About this episode

Sam Murtaugh of Mecum Auctions traces how he got pulled into the classic-car world—helping prep cars for a Mecum auction in Kansas City—and how that work turned into a career. They unpack Mecum’s scale and mission, from family-owned roots to high-volume events and TV/digital growth. The conversation also digs into what’s driving prices: buyer sophistication, lineup curation, and shifting demand toward specific generations like Fox body Mustangs, plus how collectors move from quantity to quality.

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Concept

Indy racing

"He's also big into Indy racing, Indy cars. He's got a lot of old Miller race cars."

Indy racing is a type of major American open-wheel race. It’s a different style of racing than sports cars, and the cars are built for speed on tracks like ovals and road courses.

Term

open wheel

"Yeah, some open wheel stuff. Yeah, really cool."

Open-wheel cars are the kind where the wheels are exposed, not hidden under body panels. You’ll see this look in a lot of serious race cars.

Company

Mecum Auctions

"What is Mekam's mission statement? Or what is it you want to be in the world of one automotive events, number two, even more specifically, auctions? ... We're family owned and operated. Dana started this thing in 1988."

Mecum Auctions is a company that sells cars at big auction events. In this segment, they explain that their goal is to bring car buyers and sellers together, and that it’s run as a family business.

Car

Ford Mustang

"Yeah. Put more of those cars front and center and focus on the Irox and the Fox body mustangs to help develop that next audience and next market... You get one, you know, one good Fox body that brings crazy money because it was really low miles and really clean..."

“Fox body” is a nickname for a specific Mustang generation (late 1970s through early 1990s). The point here is that really clean, low-mile examples can sell for huge prices, which raises interest in the whole group.

Concept

auction market pricing influencing collector demand

"Well, I think that, you know, the, the prices start to dictate what that, what that becomes. You get one, you know, one good Fox body that brings crazy money..."

They’re saying auction prices don’t just reflect demand—they help create it. If one great example sells for a lot of money, other buyers start believing the whole category is worth more.

Concept

put lipstick on a pig

"to just put lipstick on a pig, roll it through an auction and like Sayonara, if that thing burns to the ground 30 minutes later, as long as it crosses the auction block, right?"

It means making a car look nicer on the outside without actually fixing the important problems underneath. If you know cars, you can usually tell it’s just a quick cosmetic cover-up.

Term

auction block

"as long as it crosses the auction block, right? You're seeing more and more guys that are sort of making a, what I would consider a career out of building"

The “auction block” is where the car is brought up to be bid on and sold. If it makes it to that stage, the seller has a chance to complete the deal.

Term

cool looking wheels

"where it's, you know, put some cool looking wheels on it, you know, save you to the suspension, maybe that, you know, they're clipping coils to make it look like they did."

This is about changing the wheels to make the car look better fast. Sometimes people do that instead of fixing the real mechanical stuff.

Term

clipping coils

"save you to the suspension, maybe that, you know, they're clipping coils to make it look like they did. And then to your point, and then, you know, it's like bad experience, right?"

It means cutting the metal springs to make the car sit lower. It can look good, but it’s a rough shortcut that can make the ride worse and cause extra wear.

Concept

car bug

"from a collector that's sort of continually evolving, we see a lot of guys that, [1779.3s] even the guy that I used to work for way back in the day, [1782.9s] they bite a bug, whether it not necessarily auction bug, but car bug, and then it's like, [1786.6s] I want that, this, I want that."

“Car bug” just means you get really into cars. The idea here is that people start buying a lot before they know exactly what they’re looking for.

Car

Chevrolet Chevelle

"And sometimes it's like, okay, maybe instead of [1806.1s] 20 Chevelles, maybe I just need three or four of the right ones."

“Chevelles” means Chevrolet Chevelle muscle cars. Collectors sometimes decide to sell off extra cars and keep only the best ones.

Car

Chevrolet Camaro

"But then right before that was the Cliff Ernst Yanco Camaro collection, you know, small group of Yancos, but really great cars that did crazy."

They’re talking about a group of Camaros from the Yanco collection. When Camaros are especially rare or in great shape, collectors will pay a lot—especially when multiple great cars are sold together.

Car

Ferrari 250 GTO

"even if you take, you know, and obviously we had the 250 GTO sell for 30 and a half million dollars, which is good."

The Ferrari 250 GTO is a legendary old Ferrari race car. Because it’s extremely rare and has a strong racing history, collectors will pay enormous money for it.

Car

Shelby Cobra

"... Oh, hey, I've got this like 500 mile original AC Cobra that Kerry Carroll Shelby drove, or I've got this..."

The Shelby Cobra is a classic American-style roadster known for being very fast. It’s connected to Carroll Shelby and has a strong racing reputation. The podcast mentions a specific Cobra with an important history.

Car

Ac Cobra

"Oh, hey, I've got this like 500 mile original AC Cobra that Kerry Carroll Shelby drove,"

The AC Cobra is a classic, high-performance sports car from the 1960s. It’s famous for being fast and for the Shelby connection that made the Cobra even more iconic.

Car

Ford GT40

"that's like, Oh, hey, I've got this like 500 mile original AC Cobra that Kerry Carroll Shelby drove, or I've got this original GT 40 that's been hanging around in the garage and the wife said, I got to get rid of it. Those wild, wild cars. How are those coming to you? What's what are some"

The Ford GT40 is a sports car made by Ford that was designed for racing. It’s well known for its motorsport history. The podcast brings it up as a rare, important car to have in a collection.

Concept

survivor crazy museum pieces

"Yeah, these survivor crazy museum pieces. How did they come about?"

A “survivor” car is one that’s been kept in its original, untouched-ish condition for a long time. When they call it a “museum piece,” they mean it’s basically a rare collectible that people want to preserve.

Concept

self driving car with the remote controls

"And at that point I was learning about it, you know, the old, you know, self driving car with the remote controls and stuff, right?"

They’re talking about an old car that could move around on its own, but it was controlled with a remote. It’s the kind of tech that feels futuristic for its time, which is why it’s exciting to see.

Car

Chevrolet Bel Air

"it's popular now, but you know, original 57 Bel Airs were still on the, you know, increasing in value or 57 T birds, things like that, that era"

The Bel Air is a Chevrolet trim level. The 1957 Bel Air is especially famous, and original cars usually sell for more because they haven’t been heavily changed.

Car

Ford Thunderbird

"original 57 Bel Airs were still on the, you know, increasing in value or 57 T birds, things like that, that era"

The Ford Thunderbird is a classic Ford model line. The 1950s versions are especially collectible, and original-condition cars tend to be worth more.

Concept

factory custom options

"the uniqueness of it and the fact that you can't, I mean, the Ferrari was making custom stuff for him from the factory that no one else could get."

“Factory custom” means the car was built with special options requested from the manufacturer. Those cars can be worth more because the setup is official and uncommon.

Concept

original, unmodified, low-mileage examples

"it's hard to find original, unmodified ones that with low miles, I think those are fun ones to see"

Collectors usually prefer cars that are still close to how they left the factory (“original” and “unmodified”). Low mileage generally means less wear, so those cars tend to be more attractive—and often more expensive.

Concept

chassis sales spike

"We actually, interestingly enough, correct me if I'm wrong, but we saw a spike in chassis sales on those. Oh, 100%. Shortly thereafter."

A “chassis” is basically the main body frame of the car. If people suddenly start buying a lot of those frames, it usually means they’re planning to build or restore cars, which can push prices up fast.

Concept

buy a chassis

"It's like, well, and it's a car we do. You absolutely should buy a chassis. That's the best way to get there."

Instead of buying a fully finished car, some collectors buy the car’s frame first and then build it up. The idea is that this can be a more realistic way to get into a model that’s otherwise too expensive as a complete car.

Car

C4 ZR1

"C4 ZR1. And it never seemed to take off. That car just sits flat at like, you buy a really nice one"

“C4 ZR1” is a specific Corvette generation and performance trim. It’s the Corvette’s “top” version from that era, and people treat it like a special, more collectible car.

Car

Toyota Supra

"...ith all that crap. It's coming around, but like a Supra, it's same era, a little, a little earlier, I gue..."

The Toyota Supra is a sports car made by Toyota. It’s popular with car enthusiasts because it’s fast and has a strong reputation. The podcast mentions it as a reference for a certain generation of cars.

Concept

collectability standpoint

"I'm not sure what that, what our kind of last 15 years is going to do from a collectability standpoint, but at the same time, things like the Ferraris and that,"

“Collectability” means whether a car is likely to become more wanted (and often more valuable) to collectors later. It’s not only about performance—it’s about what makes it special over time.

Brand

Ferraris

"I'm not sure what that, what our kind of last 15 years is going to do from a collectability standpoint, but at the same time, things like the Ferraris and that, that were, you know, those tailor made Ferraris and things like that are, are, are already collectibles."

Ferrari is a famous Italian brand known for high-end supercars. The point here is that some Ferraris are already treated like collectibles when they come out, because they’re special and limited.

Car

Lamborghini Diablo

"Like the demon 170s have all settled down. Like all the, you know, the, the new stuff that was coming out, that was instant secondary market is that's tough. Now's your chance. You keep talking about the demon. Maybe a car. Yeah. Yeah. We always just miss on them. Like I've loved, like the Diablos were awesome."

The Lamborghini Diablo is a famous older Lamborghini supercar. The conversation is basically about how it went from “can’t afford it” to costing a lot more than people expected.

Concept

secondary market

"Like the demon 170s have all settled down. Like all the, you know, the, the new stuff that was coming out, that was instant secondary market is that's tough. Now's your chance."

The secondary market is the market for used cars—prices after the car is no longer brand new. They’re saying some cars get expensive fast, while others drop first and then rise again years later.

Car

911 930 Turbos

"I've loved, like the Diablos were awesome. I love the 930 turbos and all that stuff. And I'm like, man, we should snag."

The Porsche 930 Turbo is an older 911 Turbo model. It’s a famous, turbocharged Porsche, and the hosts are talking about how the price has skyrocketed compared to what people expected years ago.

Concept

market value appreciation over time

"It was right at the era. 60 grand. Yeah. Where the car was like 60 to 80 grand. You're like, I don't know, man, it's just like an old car. It's like, and then those things all just took off. The 930 turbo now is a $280,000 car. Right. The Diablos went through the route."

The hosts are describing how certain collectible cars can appreciate dramatically as they age, especially once supply tightens and demand stays strong. They cite the Porsche 930 Turbo and Lamborghini Diablo as examples of prices moving from “affordable” expectations to very high auction-level numbers.

Car

Ford Probe

"It's tough to speculate. You know, when do you think the Ford probe is going to start to take off in value?"

The Ford Probe is an older Ford sports car. The hosts are talking about when people might start paying more for it as a collectible.

Car

Aztek Pontiac Aztec

"... in value? Keep laughing. Probably as soon as the Pontiac Aztec does. You put those two in the same fighting word..."

The Pontiac Aztek is a crossover vehicle made by Pontiac. It’s known for having a very unusual design that many people either love or dislike. The podcast talks about it in terms of how its value might change as collectors become interested.

Car

Mazda Rx7S

"like, from that area, why, you know, Mazda RX-7s really haven't blown crazy. They've crept."

The Mazda RX-7 is a sports car with a special engine design. The host is saying it’s been gaining collector interest slowly rather than all at once.

Car

Mitsubishi 3000 GT

"if I'm talking probes, I mean, if we're getting into kind of that sized car, you know, we have seen, you know, Mitsubishi 3000 GTs and Dodge stealths."

The Mitsubishi 3000 GT is a sporty Mitsubishi from the late 80s/early 90s. They’re talking about how cars like this can become collectible if you find one that’s been kept in great shape.

Car

Dodge Stealth

"Mitsubishi 3000 GTs and Dodge stealths. Dodge stealth. You know, if you can find, you know, someone else that thought in that time period, they should put no miles on it and hold"

The Dodge Stealth is a sporty Dodge from around the same time as the 3000 GT. They’re saying low-mile, well-kept examples are the ones that tend to attract collectors.

Car

Mitsubishi Eclipse

"The next ones that are coming is the eclipses and talents. The Mitsubishi Eclipse and the Eagle Talons."

The Mitsubishi Eclipse is a well-known sports car from the 90s. They’re saying more of them are likely to show up for sale and could start attracting collector attention.

Car

Eagle Talon

"The Mitsubishi Eclipse and the Eagle Talons. They'll be coming up for sale. I don't know at what value. No,"

The Eagle Talon is a sporty 90s car. The hosts are saying it’s another model that could start showing up more in auctions and gaining collector interest.

Term

hazed headlights

"You're talking about that hatchback, whatever that. The rounded one, the 90. Yeah. With the haze. The 798. They almost, that headlights hazed. Oh, instantly."

Hazed headlights are cloudy, yellow-looking headlight lenses caused by aging. It can make the lights dimmer, and it’s a common problem on older cars.

Car

Challenger Hellcat

"...ngs. It'll do that. But I do drive, I've got a 23 Hellcat that I drive in the summer. And then my daily dri..."

The Dodge Challenger is a muscle car, meaning it’s built for strong acceleration and performance. The podcast mentions a 2023 Hellcat version that the owner drives in the summer. It’s being used as an example of a practical performance car.

Car

Dodge Hellcat

"But I do drive, I've got a 23 Hellcat that I drive in the summer."

The Hellcat is a Dodge with a very powerful engine that’s famous for big acceleration. People like it because it feels strong even in normal driving, not just on paper.

Car

Ford F150

"And then my daily driver's an F-150 that I've kind of turned into a fake Raptor with some fenders and wheels and stuff like that."

The F-150 is Ford’s big popular pickup truck. People often modify it with parts to make it look like the more off-road-focused Raptor.

Concept

power boost hybrid that imitates a Raptor

"So it's actually a power boost hybrid that imitates a Raptor. It's kind of, I don't know, it's fun."

They’re describing a modified truck that’s been changed to feel more like an off-road Raptor. “Hybrid” here means it’s not just the original engine setup anymore—it’s been altered to add extra power or a second system.

Car

Cadillac Eldorado convertible

"I've had a couple Broncos. I've had a 76 El Dorado convertible that I loved floating around in."

The Cadillac Eldorado is a classic luxury car. The convertible version is especially popular because you can enjoy the open-air driving experience.

Car

Ford Bronco

"I've had a couple Broncos. I've had a 76 El Dorado convertible that I loved floating around in."

The Bronco is Ford’s off-road SUV that people love for its rugged, trail-ready vibe. It’s also a common choice for mods and restorations.

Company

Good Guys

"standard questions are going to be brought to you once again by good guys Rod and Custom. This episode, we are promoting specifically their 25, 26 grand prize giveaway..."

Good Guys is a car event organization. Here, they’re the group running the giveaway and setting the entry requirements.

Car

40 Ford Coupe

"This episode, we are promoting specifically their 25, 26 grand prize giveaway, that 40 Ford Coupe that Roseville Rod and Custom built. It's been road tested."

This is a 1940 Ford coupe, which is a classic car shape people love to customize. Builders often keep the look but upgrade the mechanical parts so it drives better.

Concept

auction event venues

"We've got some, we just evaluating a few new event venues, different cities. We just announced Nashville this year, we're going to be going down there in September."

A venue is just the place where the auction happens. For car auctions, the location can change how the cars are shown and what the event feels like for bidders and spectators.

Topic

Nashville event at a super speedway

"We just announced Nashville this year, we're going to be going down there in September. We're really excited about that. We're doing it super speedway. So we're going to try and build out more of a festival like atmosphere inside the speedway..."

They’re talking about a future event in Nashville. The idea is to make it feel more like a festival, not just a standard auction.

Topic

Cosimi auction in Florida

"We'll continue to build and evolve our Cosimi auction in Florida and trying to keep building on that. That thing is just continues to evolve and grow year after year."

They mention an auction in Florida that keeps growing over time. They’re saying they’ve run out of space to expand outward, so they need a different growth approach.

Concept

grow vertically

"We've run out of room to grow. So now it's, you know, we got to start growing vertically, as they say, as opposed to keep spreading out with the volume."

“Grow vertically” here means expanding capacity by building upward or adding layered infrastructure rather than spreading out horizontally. In an auction context, it implies using the existing site more efficiently when there’s no room to expand outward.

Concept

unlimited budget

"Okay. Unlimited budget. Unlimited budget. Can I have a couple different people build it?"

They’re talking about a make-believe situation where money isn’t a problem. That usually means the builder can do the most ambitious version of the project without cutting corners.

Car

Lincoln Continental Convertible

"Okay. Unlimited budget. Unlimited budget. Can I have a couple different people build it? Yes, we've had Dream Team before. Okay. I'd probably do the Lincoln Continental Convertible only because I've been thinking about it since I was 16."

This is a classic Lincoln luxury car, and the “Convertible” part means it has a removable or retracting roof. People like it because it looks and feels very “old-school American luxury,” and convertibles are usually harder to find.

Concept

customize the crap out of the body

"Obviously, with an unlimited budget to be the badass one of the planet, I wouldn't want to customize the crap out of the body. However, I'm a big fan of what Rick Dorr does."

They mean making big changes to the car’s outside styling. That’s the part you can see immediately, but it can also make the car harder to return to original later.

Brand

Rick Dorr

"However, I'm a big fan of what Rick Dorr does. And I think I'd like to have his DNA on it without going over the top Rick Dorr, if that makes sense."

Rick Dorr is the person whose style they really like. They want the build to feel like it came from his design “fingerprint,” but not go overboard.

Term

LS

"[4591.0s] What would you do for a drivetrain? [4593.4s] I'd put a fucking LS in it. [4595.6s] LS just looks disappeared. [4596.8s] It looks lost in that car."

“LS” is shorthand for a popular GM V8 engine family. People like it for swaps because it fits well and there are lots of parts and guides to make it work.

Term

drivetrain

"[4589.1s] I don't like the way you're looking at me like that. [4591.0s] What would you do for a drivetrain? [4593.4s] I'd put a fucking LS in it."

A drivetrain is everything that takes engine power and sends it to the wheels. When people talk about changing the drivetrain, they usually mean swapping the engine and the parts connected to it.

Term

accessory drive

"[4614.4s] that stuff, you throw an LS in there. [4616.1s] There's not any room left to right and there's barely enough room in the front. [4619.5s] When you're doing an accessory drive and an intake, I mean, in a fan."

An accessory drive is the belt-driven system that powers components like the alternator, power steering pump, and sometimes the A/C compressor. When fitting an LS swap, packaging the accessory drive is often a major fitment constraint in tight engine bays.

Term

intake

"[4616.1s] There's not any room left to right and there's barely enough room in the front. [4619.5s] When you're doing an accessory drive and an intake, I mean, in a fan."

An intake is how the engine gets air. In a swap, the intake has to fit around everything else, so clearance can become a problem.

Term

fan

"[4619.5s] When you're doing an accessory drive and an intake, I mean, in a fan. [4624.1s] Were you working with Maury Faff on the one that you worked on?"

The fan helps keep the engine from overheating by pulling air through the radiator area. When you swap engines, the fan and cooling setup may need to be repositioned to fit.

Term

550 horsepower

"Make, it can still make, you know, 550 horsepower and be really smooth and sound really good."

Horsepower is a measure of how much power the engine can make. “550 horsepower” is just a big power target they’re discussing for a build.

Term

twin-turbo

"I mean, looking when we packaged like twin-turbo coyote stuff or whatever, and there's just no room for any of it, front or back."

“Twin-turbo” means there are two turbochargers on the engine. They help the engine make more power, but they take up more space and require more parts to fit correctly.

Term

firewall

"Link, uh, firewall to a radiator. A radiator has to sit back so far because of that hood."

The firewall is the barrier between the engine area and the inside of the car. It affects how much space there is for parts like the radiator and how everything has to be mounted.

Term

radiator

"A radiator has to sit back so far because of that hood. They could change that, change the hood line, make the hood open traditional."

A radiator helps cool the engine by moving heat out of the coolant. If the hood and engine bay are shaped a certain way, the radiator may have to be positioned farther back to fit.

Term

hood line

"They could change that, change the hood line, make the hood open traditional."

“Hood line” is basically the hood’s shape—how high it sits and how it slopes. If you change it, you can sometimes fit bigger parts under the hood.

Car

Buick Grand National

"...ht down the street from here. That's his, and his grand national next to it. Yeah, that GTO is sick."

The Buick Grand National is a performance version of a Buick. It’s known for being quick and for having a dedicated fan base. The podcast brings it up because it’s a notable car to own.

Term

vinyl top

"And I think we might have, maybe we might have pushed him [4738.0s] on the vinyl top. [4739.3s] Yeah."

A vinyl top is a plastic/vinyl cover on the roof of a car. It’s often used to change the look—like adding a different color or a classic style.

Concept

road rage

"It's been striving road rage. Like, what is that? Oh yeah, we built that car."

“Road rage” means getting angry while driving and acting aggressively toward other people. It’s the kind of behavior that can turn a normal drive into a dangerous situation.

Car

1987 or 1988 Honda Accord 2-door with flip-up headlights

"Oh, I'm going flip-up headlight accord. So this would have been 87 or 88 Honda Accord 2-door with the flip-up headlights."

This is a late-80s Honda Accord, and the big thing is the flip-up headlights. Instead of headlights staying fixed, they pop up, which makes the car look more unique.

Car

Dodge Dakota

"I see Dodge Dakota again. You had a good one."

The Dodge Dakota is a Dodge pickup truck. People mention it because there were multiple versions over the years, and it can be easy to confuse with other similar trucks from the same era.

Car

Pontiac Bonneville

"Pontiac Bonneville or Chevy Celebrity or or Buick Le Sabre is where I was. I was in the same though."

The Pontiac Bonneville is a large sedan. In the late 1980s, cars like this were part of a family of similar GM sedans, so people often compare them because they look and feel alike.

Car

Chevy Celebrity

"Pontiac Bonneville or Chevy Celebrity or or Buick Le Sabre is where I was. I was in the same though."

The Chevrolet Celebrity is a GM sedan from the 1980s era. People mention it with other sedans because some versions were very similar—often just different branding.

Car

Buick Le Sabre

"Pontiac Bonneville or Chevy Celebrity or or Buick Le Sabre is where I was. I was in the same though."

The Buick LeSabre is a big Buick sedan. People bring it up with other GM cars because around that time, different brands could be very similar underneath, with mostly styling and badge differences.

Concept

rebadged

"They were just rebadged. Same car. Yeah."

“Rebadged” means the same basic car gets sold under different brand names. The differences are often mostly the badges and styling, not the whole car.

Car

Cadillac Catera

"Finally afford my Catera. [4981.1s] Nope. [4981.4s] Never owned a Catera."

The Cadillac Catera is a Cadillac luxury car from the late 1990s/early 2000s. In this story, it’s the specific car the speaker was trying to afford before they ended up buying something else.

Car

Oldsmobile Cutlass

"It was an 85 old will be a cutlass. [4990.2s] Yeah, in the in the wheelhouse. [4991.9s] Really close. [4992.9s] I was going to throw it as a cutlass. [4994.6s] I honest to God was really what it's the same car."

Oldsmobile Cutlass is a classic American car name that’s been used for many years. Here, the speaker is talking about the specific car they ended up getting and how close it was to another car they had in mind.

Concept

used-car deal

"I got to buy it for 500 bucks, which I mean really time. [5013.3s] I didn't realize how much of a deal he gave me. [5016.1s] But yeah, you know, seven year old car for 500 bucks is a pretty good deal."

They’re talking about getting a good price on a used car. The point is that the car was worth more than what they paid because it was in great condition.

Concept

G body

"But by goal, I was I was using 88 was still a G body style. I was using 85. Right."

“G body” is a nickname for a group of GM cars from the late 1970s/early 1980s that share the same basic design. People use it to talk about how these cars are built and what parts tend to fit together.

Car

Ferrari MC12

"You know, F40, F50 Ferrari, MC12 that's in there, 250 short wheelbase California spider that's in there. That's going to, there's some really high end stuff."

The Ferrari MC12 is a very rare Ferrari supercar. It was made to feel like a race car you can drive on the street.

Car

Ferrari F40

"We've got a main attraction collection. It's a collection called the M Group Collection. That's like 41 cars. You know, F40, F50 Ferrari, MC12 that's in there,"

The Ferrari F40 is a legendary supercar from the 1980s. It’s known for a powerful twin-turbo engine and a very raw, driver-focused feel.

Car

Ferrari F50

"That's like 41 cars. You know, F40, F50 Ferrari, MC12 that's in there, 250 short wheelbase California spider that's in there."

The Ferrari F50 is a famous Ferrari supercar from the 1990s. It’s known for a naturally aspirated V12 engine that revs very high.

Car

Maserati MC12

"That's like 41 cars. You know, F40, F50 Ferrari, MC12 that's in there, 250 short wheelbase California s..."

The Maserati MC12 is a very rare, high-performance supercar. It was made in small numbers and is known for being an exotic, expensive collector car. The podcast mentions it as part of a list of top-tier supercars.

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