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Sedans Are Back, Dodge Is Confused & Should Acura Just Die?

Sedans Are Back, Dodge Is Confused & Should Acura Just Die?

Auto Buyers Guide Podcast Jun 04, 2026 84 min
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About this episode

Sedans are making a comeback, and the Camry is a big reason why: “Camry went all hybrid” and “hybrid sales actually went up like 5%,” with real-world efficiency like “46 to 51 miles per gallon.” The hosts weigh sedan practicality against crossovers, noting “getting a child in and out of the Camry is more difficult than in the RAV4.” They then pivot to pricing and brand strategy—especially a fiery take that “kill off Acura” and a skeptical look at electric Dodge’s direction.

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V6

"You know, they're like, uh, Henny pennies were like, the sky is falling. They killed the V6. No one's going to want a Camry."

V6 is a type of gas engine with six cylinders. The hosts mention it because some people thought dropping a V6 would make the Camry less desirable.

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hybrid

"The sky is falling. Camry went all hybrid and hybrid sales actually went up like 5% in the first full year of production... overall sales, which are now all hybrid, right?"

A hybrid uses a gas engine and an electric motor together. It can save fuel because it uses electricity some of the time and can also recharge the battery when you slow down.

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miles per gallon

"right now, every time they go to the pump, they appreciate that... Cause you'll get 46 to 51 miles per gallon in your Camry."

Miles per gallon (MPG) tells you how efficiently a car uses gas. Higher MPG usually means you spend less on fuel for the same miles.

Car

Toyota RAV4

"currently still beating the RAV4 last year by 150,000 units. But RAV4 obviously will take the lead this year because it's all hybrid as well."

The Toyota RAV4 is a very popular SUV/crossover. In this discussion, they’re comparing how it works for families—like getting kids in and out—against the Camry.

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cargo area

"ponder me this, it's 3000 to $4,000 less than a RAV4 with slightly better performance, definitely better handling and more leg room, but a smaller cargo area."

The cargo area is the trunk/back space where you put stuff. They’re saying the Camry may have less room there than the RAV4.

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lift back

"Well, some of that's going to be how upright the RAV4 ends up being, right? And the fact that we don't have a lift back or a hatchback over in the, uh, Camry, which would be interesting, right?"

A liftback is like a hatch that opens upward at the back of the car. It usually makes loading groceries or kids’ stuff easier than a traditional trunk opening.

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hatchback

"And the fact that we don't have a lift back or a hatchback over in the, uh, Camry, which would be interesting, right?"

A hatchback has a rear door that lifts up, so you can load things more easily. The hosts are saying that a Camry with that kind of rear opening would be more convenient.

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crossover

"but it's, it's the rise of the crossover. I mean, literally and figuratively that's, that's what does it for folks."

A crossover is a car-SUV hybrid that’s usually easier to get into and out of. The hosts think this is a big reason people prefer the RAV4 over a sedan.

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child seat

"getting a child in and out of the Camry is more difficult than in the RAV4. But I can actually be more comfortable in the Camry because there's enough room that I can sit the way I want to sit without worrying about my child seat, uh, you know, my child seat, rather hitting the driver's seat and that being a concern as far as safety goes."

A child seat is the car seat used to keep kids safe. They’re talking about how the back-seat space and how close the seats are can make it harder to install and use correctly.

Car

Toyota Camry

"I tend to be a Camry over a RAV4. And, and I'll admit, you know, in the world of the beige..."

The Toyota Camry is a popular family sedan. Here, the host is saying it can cost less to own than an SUV like the RAV4 when you add up fuel and payments over several years.

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total fuel economy

"when I crunched the numbers, the cost difference total fuel economy plus car payment on a five year note, keeping the car for five years..."

This is about how much gas you’ll likely spend overall, not just one MPG rating. The host is saying you should add gas costs to your monthly payment to see the real cost of owning the car.

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five year note

"the cost difference total fuel economy plus car payment on a five year note, keeping the car for five years..."

A “five year note” means the car loan is paid back over five years. The host uses that loan length to compare the total monthly cost between two cars.

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monthly ownership cost

"but they go, how much does my monthly cost? They don't look at how much my monthly ownership cost"

“Monthly ownership cost” is the all-in cost of having a car each month, typically including the loan payment plus operating costs like fuel. The host argues shoppers often focus only on the monthly payment, not the full monthly cost of ownership over the time they plan to keep the vehicle.

Car

Toyota Crown Signia

"I just wish I kind of wish there was a Camry wagon, the Crown Signia wagon... How is it the Camry is that 28, 29,000 thing? And let's see what a Crown Signia is... It's 44. Yeah, I'd say mid 40s, for sure."

The Toyota Crown Signia is a Toyota model that’s meant to feel more wagon-like. The host says it costs a lot more than a Camry, so it may not be the best deal if you’re trying to keep monthly costs down.

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horsepower

"it doesn't have, I mean, what is different in it? 243 horsepower instead of 220, big deal, you know, not a huge difference."

Horsepower is a number that describes how much power the engine can make. The host is saying that a bump from 220 to 243 horsepower may not feel dramatically different in real life.

Car

Toyota Venza

"...tween Toyota and Lexus. And it's sort of like the Venza did, right? The Venza for years was the nicest, b..."

The Toyota Venza is a crossover SUV-style vehicle. The podcast says it used to be one of the nicer options in its lineup. It’s mentioned because some people choose it for a more comfortable feel.

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cubic feet

"This 37.6 inches in Camry looks like Crown Signis 38.9... And you go from 15 cubic feet up to 25 cubic feet."

“Cubic feet” is how car makers measure how much stuff a trunk or cargo area can hold. The host is comparing those numbers to show whether one car really has much more room than another.

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stacking your stuff

"when you look at the cubic feet of storage, you have to be willing to stack your stuff... it's some of it's a stability issue. Some of it's what if you break real heavy and you got stuff flying around."

This is about how you actually pack your trunk. Even if a car has a big cargo number on paper, you might not want to pile things on top of each other if they could shift around or be annoying to load.

Car

Toyota Crown

"do you go get a crown or an ES? And I think that actually is even harder to look at a crown and say that's the way to go... But I don't know if we need the crown here in the US, at least not right now."

The Toyota Crown is a more upscale Toyota sedan nameplate. In this discussion, they’re talking about whether Toyota should sell it in the US and how big it really is compared with other Toyota sedans.

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Lexus ES

"do you go get a crown or an ES? And I think that actually is even harder to look at a crown and say that's the way to go. Because I think the ES is a generally much more accepted, let's just say shape, right?"

The Lexus ES is a comfortable luxury sedan. In this segment, it’s being compared to the Toyota Crown to argue which one makes more sense for buyers in the US.

Car

Buick Century

".... Yeah, I also kind of wish they just brought the century here instead and given us a big sedan. But that's..."

The Buick Century is a car name from Buick’s past, known for being a larger sedan. The podcast mentions it because someone wishes a big sedan like that were available again. It’s brought up as part of a conversation about what types of cars are missing.

Car

Hyundai Sonata

"I think the hybrid movement makes sense for Camry. But Sonata's sales are up 40%... And generally speaking in the Hyundai Envelope, the hybrid sales are up 90% over last year."

The Hyundai Sonata is a popular midsize sedan. The hosts mention its sales are up, and they connect that to the growing interest in hybrid versions.

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Honda Accord

"Accord seems to be the one exception in 2025. I don't know how Accord's been selling this year though... Accord does show a strong upward trend as well"

The Honda Accord is a very common midsize sedan. The hosts say sedan sales are generally rising, but the Accord was the one they weren’t seeing rise the same way in 2025.

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May 2026 versus May 2025

"That was May to May. So May 2026 versus May 20, same time period last year, basically."

They’re comparing sales from May 2026 to sales from May 2025. That’s a “same month last year” comparison to see if things are really improving.

Car

Honda Civic

"On the downside, Civic sales are apparently down."

The Honda Civic is a very popular small car. The hosts are talking about whether sales of this model are going up or down, as a clue to how the sedan market is doing.

Car

Audi A8

"...cale, I want sort of the boxier look to more like Audi A8 almost. And it really felt like an upscale swing...."

The Audi A8 is a large luxury sedan, meaning it’s built to feel premium and comfortable. The podcast mentions it as a style reference for a more “boxy” look. It’s brought up because it represents a top-tier sedan design.

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fuel economy numbers

"But the fuel economy numbers really start to bite you once you get on the highway."

“Fuel economy numbers” are the efficiency ratings that tell you how far the car can go on a gallon (or equivalent). The host is saying those ratings matter most once you’re driving faster on the highway.

Car

Subaru Outback

"I would think that that would actually do well for a brand like Honda to have an Outback competitor"

The Subaru Outback is a practical car that’s like a wagon but with a higher ride height. The hosts are using it as the example of the kind of vehicle Honda might compete with.

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front wheel drive

"And you still had the same powertrains. So front wheel drive for a four cylinder and you had the V6 all wheel drive."

Front-wheel drive means the front wheels do the work of moving the car. It’s common on many family cars because it’s efficient and makes the car easier to package.

Car

Mazda five

"And one of the only things I could find that would fit six people was a Mazda five. And that is a mini mini van."

The Mazda5 is a small minivan made to carry people and stuff with easy access. Here, the host says it was one of the only rentals they could find that fit six people.

Car

Chrysler Pacifica

"And it was, and I don't remember the designation, right? But the R was like this, this sliding door van situation from Mercedes. They've done at the same time as Pacifica and a lot of rumors were like, they're the same thing..."

The Chrysler Pacifica is a popular family minivan. Here it’s mentioned because people were comparing it to a Mercedes minivan and talking about whether they were related.

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MPG

"because it's almost 60 miles per gallon, but going from the high 50s to 60 miles per gallon doesn't save you that much."

MPG means miles per gallon, or how many miles you can drive with one gallon of gas. The host uses MPG numbers to estimate how much money you’d save.

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funky gauge cluster

"I don't know if I'd stick with it because it does have the funky gauge cluster and you don't get that in the Camry, right?"

The gauge cluster is the dashboard screen/area that shows your speed and other info. The host says the Prius’s version looks unusual, while the Camry’s looks more normal.

Car

Toyota Prius

"I still fit there. I don't need much room above me. That's the key. But it's a good looking Prius. It is good looking. Is it better looking than the Camry, though, is the question?"

The Toyota Prius is a car that’s built mainly to save gas using a hybrid powertrain. Here, they’re basically saying it looks good, but it doesn’t drive as well as the Camry.

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suspension tune

"You could get a Camry SEX SE with the different tune of the suspension and the more aggressive tires."

A suspension tune is how the car’s ride and handling are set up—basically how firm or soft it feels and how it reacts when you turn or hit bumps. A different tune can make the car feel more stable and responsive.

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aggressive all-season tire

"It's not a summer tire, but it's a pretty aggressive all-season tire for a mainstream OEM tire, mind you, disclaimers."

This means the tire is made to grip the road more than a basic all-season tire, while still being okay for most weather. It helps the car feel more confident when turning, even though it’s not a dedicated summer tire.

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HEV

"the whatever EV designation, HEV, PHEV, BEV."

HEV means hybrid electric vehicle. It uses both a gas engine and an electric motor, and you usually don’t plug it in—the car charges the battery as you drive.

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BEV

"the whatever EV designation, HEV, PHEV, BEV."

BEV means battery electric vehicle. It runs on electricity stored in a battery, and you charge it from a plug (or charging station).

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fuel economy crunch

"And the last fuel economy crunch circa 2008-ish got him to start thinking, do I really need this truck?"

A “fuel economy crunch” is when gas gets expensive or people start feeling pressure to use less fuel. Here, it’s what makes the neighbor rethink whether he really needs a big truck.

Car

plug-in hybrid Ioniq

"So then he bought a plug-in hybrid Ioniq, interestingly enough. He had that for a really long time."

The Hyundai Ioniq plug-in hybrid can be charged like an electric car, and it also has a gas engine for longer trips. In the segment, it’s the next step after the Prius for saving fuel.

Car

Volkswagen Beetle

"She drives a Beetle convertible around everywhere else, which is very her."

A Volkswagen Beetle convertible is a Beetle with the roof down. In the story, it’s the “fun” car the wife drives when she’s not using the truck for camping.

Car

Chevrolet Sonic

"...ave that one at home, drive? I think it's a Chevy Sonic. And you can just, you can just take my truck. I ..."

The Chevrolet Sonic is a small, everyday car. The podcast mentions it as something someone has at home, likely for regular driving. It’s brought up because compact cars are often chosen for being practical and easy to use.

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consumption tax

"So it's actually moved away from a consumption tax in a way, which I think is probably personally the best way to do this thing. We should bet definitely as a state, as a federal government go, how much are we spending on roads?"

A consumption tax is a tax you pay based on how much you use something. In this case, it would mean paying road costs based on how much you drive or use fuel.

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EVs

"And that's where it does get tricky, because EVs being generally speaking, heavier than average, are going to wear the roads more than average. Ditto for the plug in hybrids, maybe for the hybrids, depending on the hybrid that we're talking about."

EVs are electric cars that run on batteries instead of gasoline. Because they can be heavier, they may wear out roads faster than some lighter cars.

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mileage

"Go ahead and check my mileage every year. I'll pay again, I'll pay my taxes. It's never a problem."

Here, mileage just means how much you drive. The speaker is talking about using driving distance to figure out what’s fair to pay for road use.

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studded tires

"But I want the penalties for everyone running studded tires, running them ever, and then also definitely past season. That's the hill I'll die on."

Studded tires have little metal spikes that help on ice. The downside is they can be harsher on roads, so the speaker wants rules to limit when people use them.

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level one or level two

"So anytime you publicly charge your EV level one or level two, there is a tax associated with that that mirrors roughly the gas tax on a gallon of gasoline or diesel, et cetera, based on whatever number."

Level 1 and Level 2 are categories of EV charging. Level 1 typically uses a standard household outlet, while Level 2 uses dedicated charging equipment with higher power, allowing faster charging.

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meter

"You could also come meet my EV charger at home. I have a meter, it gets read."

A meter is a device that tracks how much electricity you used. The speaker is saying it’s already possible to measure EV charging at home.

Car

Dodge Charger EV

"Speaking of bad, the price bump on the dodge charger here apparently this time last year was 59 995 for the charger EV adding the next port has somehow bumped the MSRP before destination to 72,495 for 2027."

This is the electric version of the Dodge Charger. The hosts are talking about how much more expensive it’s getting—basically, the sticker price is going up for the next model year.

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MSRP before destination

"…adding the next port has somehow bumped the MSRP before destination to 72,495 for 2027."

MSRP before destination is the car’s sticker price before the shipping/delivery fee is added. Your final price at the dealer will be higher once that delivery charge is included.

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cafe rules

"…Stalantis is doing the math due to the rollback of of cafe fines. Cafe rules still exist. The fine is just zero."

CAFE rules are U.S. requirements that car companies have to hit average fuel-economy targets across all the cars they sell. If they don’t, they can face penalties, and electric cars can help them earn credits.

Company

Stalantis

"I have a feeling it's simply that at the moment, at least, Stalantis is doing the math due to the rollback of of cafe fines."

This is the automaker behind brands like Dodge and Chrysler. The hosts are saying the company is adjusting pricing based on how government rules and EV credit incentives work.

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cafe fines

"…due to the rollback of of cafe fines. Cafe rules still exist. The fine is just zero."

CAFE fines are penalties car companies can owe if they don’t meet fuel-economy rules. The hosts are saying those penalties got reduced/removed, which changes how companies think about EV credits and pricing.

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credits generated by electric vehicles

"…since they don't need the effective credits generated by electric vehicles to offset fines elsewhere, they're going to go…"

The idea is that EVs can earn special compliance credits under government rules. Those credits can be used to make up for other cars that don’t meet targets, and changing the penalty system changes how valuable those credits are.

Car

Jeep Wagoneer

"... more easily tell you who would want, you know, a Wagoneer S. I could maybe want that one either. Well, you ..."

The Jeep Wagoneer is a large SUV made for families and people who want lots of space. The podcast mentions a Wagoneer S, which suggests there are different versions of the same SUV line. It’s brought up because people are deciding which version fits their needs.

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powertrains

"Well, you know, we're talking about the same powertrains, right? So yes, yes, yes."

Powertrains are the full set of components that generate and deliver motion—on an EV, that includes the electric motor(s), battery, and drivetrain hardware. The hosts say the Wagoneer S and other models are using the “same powertrains,” implying similar mechanical/electric architecture.

Car

Jeep Grand Cherokee

"...n paper. I know I know who would want an electric Grand Cherokee, which is what should have been called, but right..."

The Jeep Grand Cherokee is an SUV that’s made for normal driving but can also handle rougher roads. The podcast brings up the idea of an electric version, which changes what the car is like to own and drive. It’s mentioned because people debate what the name should mean when the power source changes.

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out the door

"MSRP versus actual price tag out the door because Wagoneer S as it actually transacts, I think is not mad."

“Out the door” (OTD) price is the total amount you pay to drive the car home, including taxes, registration, and dealer fees beyond the base sticker price. The hosts use it to argue that a vehicle’s MSRP may look unreasonable, but the final OTD deal could be more acceptable.

Brand

Porsche

"I do not to my core understand who wants an electric Dodge charger. I understand the Tycon because that customer makes more sense. You think of who's buying a Porsche..."

Porsche is used as a comparison point for buyer demographics and perceived customer sophistication. The hosts contrast Porsche buyers (described as more affluent and educated) with Dodge’s “every man” marketing positioning.

Brand

Lucid

"You look at something like a Lucid and that again, pure EV from the beginning and that [2362.8s] feels like a very high-end super tuned engineered experience."

Lucid is a company that makes electric cars. The host is saying Lucid’s cars were built as EVs from the start, so they feel more polished and intentional.

Car

Dodge Ram

"advanced tech and all their other models, right? But it just feels like a good fit. What is Dodges? Because their Dodge, Ram, Jeep, they've really emphasized just the absurd from time to time to be, right? I mean, they're known for the Hellcat. They're known for the Hemi. So how do"

The Dodge Ram is a pickup truck, which is a vehicle built for hauling and tough everyday tasks. The podcast mentions it along with other Dodge-related brands while talking about how they market their vehicles. It’s brought up because Ram is part of that broader lineup.

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Fratsonic exhaust

"So how do [2398.6s] you capture that? And the Fratsonic exhaust has not been the answer somehow. Just haven't stuck."

It sounds like they’re talking about a way to make the car “sound” more like a traditional Dodge. Instead of only relying on the exhaust pipe, the car can use sound engineering to create a more exciting noise.

Car

Challenger Hellcat

"... time to be, right? I mean, they're known for the Hellcat. They're known for the Hemi. So how do you captur..."

The Challenger is a sporty muscle car. The podcast says it’s especially known for its high-performance engine versions. It’s mentioned because people often choose it based on that performance reputation.

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all wheel drive

"Here's an all wheel drive one. And [2433.1s] then people's minds would have been blown anyway... And you can turn off the all wheel drive and you [2441.6s] can still do donuts"

All-wheel drive means the car can send power to more than just the two wheels on one axle. It helps the car grip the road better, especially in slippery conditions.

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donuts

"And you can turn off the all wheel drive and you [2441.6s] can still do donuts and you're thinking that thing."

Donuts are when a car spins in a circle with the tires sliding and making smoke. It’s used here to mean the car should still be fun and easy to drive aggressively.

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slant six

"They could have doubled down on the slant six, you know, name from, from back in the day with, [2450.2s] with Chrysler."

A “slant six” is a type of older straight-six engine from Chrysler. The cylinders are tilted (slanted), and it’s remembered as a classic, popular engine in some Dodge/Chrysler models.

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inline six

"inline six is a slant six BMW, especially has been an angle because they don't fit well under a hood"

“Inline six” means the engine has six cylinders lined up in a row. BMW sometimes tilts that engine to make it fit better under the hood. That packaging choice can affect the car’s design and space.

Car

Dodge Charger

"Remember, with that, because when I drove the charger,"

The Dodge Charger is a well-known American performance car. The host mentions driving it to compare the “feel” and audience expectations to what Dodge would need to deliver with an EV. It’s basically the reference point for what people expect from Dodge.

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EV

"If, if you're going to try and sell them an EV,"

EV means electric vehicle. Instead of using gasoline, it runs on electric motors powered by a battery. The host is saying the EV has to be exciting enough to match what people expect from a performance brand.

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Banshee drivetrain

"you could see the components that are there with this thing that like, oh, if this had the Banshee drivetrain and it charged even faster with that different battery,"

“Banshee drivetrain” refers to a specific EV powertrain concept associated with Dodge’s electrification plans. The host is arguing that using the Banshee setup (rather than what’s in the current EV) would make the car faster and better aligned with the performance expectations of Dodge buyers. In other words, the drivetrain choice is central to whether the EV “slots” into the muscle-car lineup.

Car

SRT Hellcat replacement

"And that could be the SRT Hellcat replacement. You know, if you had a thousand horsepower thing,"

The Hellcat is Dodge’s badge for very high-power performance cars. The host is saying Dodge might want an EV to replace that role—so it has to feel just as exciting and fast. They’re comparing what the EV would need to match the Hellcat reputation.

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drag strip

"As long as it could do the drag strip, you know, 10 or 12 times in a row without breaking anything,"

A drag strip is a race track made for quick straight-line acceleration. The host is saying the EV would need to be able to do repeated hard launches without problems. It’s basically about whether it can keep performing under repeated stress.

Car

Challenger

"The coupe could have been coupier. I think the coupe is fine the way that it is because Challenger sold because it was a big coupe. It was like, Hey, you want, you know, it outsold Mustang and Camaro fantastically for ages."

The Dodge Challenger is a popular American coupe (a two-door car) that’s been sold for many years. The host is saying it sold really well because it stayed true to that “big coupe” idea.

Car

Chrysler Imperial

"...en a Chrysler one that could have resurrected the Imperial name and had, you know, Mercedes S class Mybach l..."

The Chrysler Imperial is a luxury car name from Chrysler’s past. The podcast talks about the idea of bringing that name back. It’s mentioned because a revived luxury model would need to match expectations for comfort and quality.

Car

Jeep Recon

"And I also wonder something like the Jeep recon, which is built on the same general platform, you know, is that something that we're going to see a internal combustion come into at some point because, because the EV is not going to sell well, just based on its overall range"

Jeep Recon is a Jeep EV that the host is talking about. They’re wondering if Jeep might later offer a gas version if the electric version doesn’t sell well because of limited driving range.

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platform

"And I also wonder something like the Jeep recon, which is built on the same general platform, you know, is that something that we're going to see a internal combustion come into at some point"

A platform is the shared “base” that multiple cars are built on. If two cars share a platform, they can often share engineering and parts, which makes it easier to offer different powertrains.

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internal combustion

"is that something that we're going to see a internal combustion come into at some point because, because the EV is not going to sell well"

Internal combustion means a traditional gas or diesel engine. The host is saying they might add a gas version later if the electric version doesn’t sell.

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range

"because the EV is not going to sell well, just based on its overall range, like it's great for around town."

For an electric car, range is how many miles it can drive before the battery runs out. The host thinks that if the range isn’t great, fewer people will buy it.

Car

Cherokee

"Because the rumor mill is pointing to the Cherokee's hybrid system. Okay. Is it going to be a little bit heavy for that? We don't know because the Cherokee is also built on that same platform."

The Jeep Cherokee is another Jeep model the host brings up as a close relative. They’re talking about rumors that it could use a hybrid system, and whether that same idea could carry over to the Recon.

Company

Solantis

"But that's how it works under the Solantis envelope."

“Solantis” sounds like Stellantis, the big company that owns multiple car brands. The host is saying the shared platform strategy comes from that corporate structure.

Term

structural rigidity

"because if your structure isn't stiff enough to, let's put it this way, the door is not adding any structural rigidity because if it were, it would be squeaking."

Structural rigidity means how “stiff” the car body is when forces act on it. If the body flexes and the door is part of the structure, you can get squeaks as everything shifts.

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rear wheel drive

"front wheel drive, all wheel drive and rear wheel drive all are supported in this thing."

Rear-wheel drive means the back wheels provide the driving power. Some drivers like it because it can feel more balanced and “sporty.”

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short bed

"is there still enough function baked into it? And obviously I know we're getting a little tighter here. It's a sport truck. It's the muscle truck. It's not going to be for everyone, but is the short bed and the four doors still enough?"

A short bed means the truck’s cargo area is shorter. It usually makes the truck easier to drive and park, but you lose some space for hauling.

Car

Honda Prelude

"Standard cab. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like the Honda Prelude that I was driving not that long ago, [2924.9s] which I actually really loved by the way..."

The Honda Prelude is a Honda sports coupe that’s known for being fun to drive. Here, the host is talking about what tires it can use and comparing it to the Civic Type R.

Car

Civic Type R

"A fun fact, you can [2941.8s] apparently stick a Civic Type R tires on it because it has skinny tires, even though it has [2947.0s] the wide track type R."

The Civic Type R is Honda’s high-performance Civic. In this segment, the host is saying you can use Civic Type R tires on another Honda because the tire sizes can match up.

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wide track

"A fun fact, you can apparently stick a Civic Type R tires on it because it has skinny tires, even though it has [2947.0s] the wide track type R."

“Wide track” means the car sits with a wider stance—its wheels are farther apart than usual. That can affect how the car handles and what tire sizes you can run safely.

Concept

practicality

"I do think, though, that when we get into the subcompact and compact world, [3006.2s] I think we're missing some practicality there. I think things like the Honda fit..."

Here, “practicality” means how easy and useful the car is in real life. The host is talking about things like how the seats fold and how well the car fits your needs.

Car

Honda Fit

"... some practicality there. I think things like the Honda fit, where you really got the most out of the vehicle..."

The Honda Fit EV is an electric version of a small Honda Fit. The podcast mentions it as a practical car that makes good use of space. It’s relevant because electric cars can still be easy to live with in a compact size.

Car

Honda Element

"...c seats and that really practical cargo area, the element back then. But also just other innovations like t..."

The Honda Element is a compact SUV with a very practical interior. The podcast points out that it has a cargo area that’s easy to use. It’s mentioned because it was designed to be flexible for everyday needs.

Term

magic seats

"You know, fit with the magic seats and that really practical cargo area, the element back then. But also just other innovations like the CR-V with the old foldout table..."

“Magic seats” refers to how the Honda Fit’s rear seats fold and move in different ways. It helps you fit larger or oddly shaped items in the back.

Car

Honda Crv

"But also just other innovations like the CR-V with the old foldout table and things like that that they used to have and the really practical interior volumes."

The Honda CR-V is a popular small SUV. The host is pointing out that some earlier versions had a clever interior feature—like a fold-out table—that made everyday use easier.

Term

floor pans

"they're trying to reuse so many components from other vehicles together in these global platforms that I think it really precludes some of that creative out of the box thinking just due to the way the floor pans are stamped and things are shaped in there."

Floor pans are the metal panels that make up the bottom of the car’s cabin. If a company reuses the same floor design across many models, it can limit how they can redesign the interior space for each one.

Car

Honda Hrv

"The current HR-V is just not a very well-packaged vehicle, I think, compared to like a Honda fit. And I don't know if there's a fix for that."

The Honda HR-V is a small crossover. The host thinks it doesn’t use its space as well as the Honda Fit, partly because newer cars are built on shared platform designs that limit how much they can tailor the interior layout.

Car

Honda DelSol

"Yeah, I think it would have been a DelSol. Oh, I mean, to be a DelSol, you'd have to be able to take the roof off. They could have given it a innovative something top..."

The Honda DelSol is an older Honda model known for a convertible-like design. The host is using it as an example of how Honda could have made a small car feel more special or flexible.

Car

Acura Rsx

"Or at least a power rear window. Yes, I mean, or they could have gone Acura RSX because they didn't end up using that name anyway. Yeah. To be perfectly honest, the Prelude would have made"

The Acura RSX is an older Acura model that was aimed at drivers who wanted something sportier than a basic compact. Here, the host mentions it mainly as a name that could have been used for a small-car concept.

Car

Acura Prelude

"That's part of my, you know, I'm torn here because Prelude is a lot of ground of the Honda lineup right now. Kind of. It's a lot of fun to drive, but it also feels too civic inside. Yeah, it's a blast to drive. I mean, the suspension is fantastic."

The Acura Prelude is a sporty Honda-based coupe. Here, the discussion is about whether it feels special and fun to drive, or whether it mostly feels like a regular Civic inside.

Term

grip

"you're going to be lower on grip, but the ride is... Grip is easy to fix. Well, above your... Yeah, tires are the easy one, but the suspension is great."

Grip is how well the tires can hold the road. They’re saying if grip feels off, tires are the easiest thing to change, and the car still drives well.

Car

Honda Crz

"Yeah, that's one where I think it kind of ends up the way the CR-Z did, which was not quite sporty enough and not quite efficient enough. But I'll also admit, I still like the CR-Z, but again,"

The Honda CR-Z is a small sporty coupe that was also meant to be efficient. The hosts are saying the Prelude does a better job of being fun without giving up too much efficiency.

Car

Mazda MX-5 / Miata

"... it is faster than most people will be in an MX-5 Miata. If you have manual Miata next to you at the stop..."

The Mazda MX-5 Miata is a small two-seat roadster designed to be fun and easy to drive. People often think it’s the fastest car, but the podcast points out it can be slower than you might assume. It’s mentioned in the context of real-world stoplight comparisons.

Concept

cupified

"if they had cupified an Accord and taken the engine out of the TLX Type S"

“Cupified” means making a car more track-focused, like a race-prep version. The host is imagining a more hardcore Accord build, not just a normal street trim.

Car

TLX Type S

"if they had cupified an Accord and taken the engine out of the TLX Type S that is now dead"

The host is talking about the Acura TLX Type S, which is the more powerful, performance version of the TLX. They’re imagining taking its engine and putting it into another car, but they say that Type S is no longer around.

Term

torque vectoring

"jammed that under the hood, you know, over 300 horsepower with all-wheel drive and torque vectoring"

Torque vectoring is a way the car can “send power” to the wheels differently while turning. That can help the car turn in more smoothly and stay more stable on the road.

Term

electric powertrain

"You could boost performance by the electric powertrain."

The electric powertrain is the car’s electric system for moving it—mainly the battery and electric motor. The host is saying it can add extra push to improve performance.

Term

battery technology

"Honda just doesn't have the battery technology and expertise, I think, to make a high-performance plug-in"

Battery technology is basically how good the battery is—how much power it can store and how quickly it can deliver that power. The host is saying Honda doesn’t have the right battery know-how for a high-performance plug-in yet.

Car

Nissan Z

"Let's say your MX-5s, your 86s, and they're on their way out right by like a Supra, Z4, Nissan Z,"

The Nissan Z is a sports car line that’s been around for decades and is popular with car enthusiasts. In this segment, it’s used as another example of a “fun” car buyers might want.

Car

Toyota Supra

"Let's say your MX-5s, your 86s, and they're on their way out right by like a Supra, Z4, Nissan Z,"

The Toyota Supra is a performance sports car known for strong straight-line power and a reputation that spans multiple generations. In this segment, it’s used as a comparison point for other “fun” cars—questioning whether some are too practical or not fun enough to attract buyers.

Car

BMW Z4

"Let's say your MX-5s, your 86s, and they're on their way out right by like a Supra, Z4, Nissan Z,"

The BMW Z4 is a small two-seat sports car meant for enjoyable driving. The hosts mention it alongside other fun cars while talking about whether people are still buying this kind of car.

Term

turbocharged

"I don't quite understand why they could never have jammed the Subaru turbo engine under the hood, but they never have. Obviously, there are people out there that have done crazy things to their 86 BRZ."

A turbocharged engine uses a device that squeezes extra air into the engine. More air usually means more power, which is why people associate turbos with “more fun” performance.

Term

aftermarket

"If there's a world where Toyota doesn't bring us a turbocharged 86 BRZ later... then I would hope at least they would give us something that the aftermarket community could do something easily with."

Aftermarket means non-factory parts—like upgrades you buy from other companies. The hosts want the car to be designed so those upgrades are easier to do.

Concept

entry-level accessible fun car

"some way. That would be interesting to me. Yeah, and at that point, then it doesn't get more expensive because it was trying to be an entry-level accessible fun car."

This phrase means a car that’s not too expensive, but still feels fun to drive. The hosts are saying it’s getting harder to find cars that fit that “affordable fun” sweet spot.

Car

Honda Civic Si

"Yeah, and at that point, then it doesn't get more expensive because it was trying to be an entry-level accessible fun car. Even like a Civic Si, those are not cheap these days, and are they fun enough?"

The Honda Civic Si is a sportier version of the regular Civic. The point here is that it’s gotten more expensive, so the hosts wonder if it still feels like an affordable “fun car” option.

Car

Toyota MR2

"I worry that we're losing fun cars in mass, right? People just aren't buying them. There's the rumor of a Toyota MR2 coming back,"

The Toyota MR2 is a sports car that enthusiasts remember for being small and fun. The hosts are talking about a rumor that Toyota might bring it back, because they want more cars like that.

Term

T-tops

"and that would be... I think we need some more convertibles or T-tops in some capacity, open things up."

T-tops are a roof style where parts of the roof can be removed, so you get more open-air driving. The hosts are saying they want more cars with that kind of roof option.

Car

Mustang

"No, but we have Mustang that is arguably more affordable than it has been in a long time. Mustang is kind of the only one hanging on there, right?"

The Ford Mustang is a classic American performance car. The host is saying it’s one of the few remaining cheaper options compared to the past.

Car

Dodge Neon

"I definitely think we're missing a domestic option, right? Because there is no Dodge Neon."

The Dodge Neon was a small, budget-friendly Dodge car. The host is saying you can’t really buy a cheap Dodge like that anymore.

Car

Camaro

"Camaro is gone. There's no Fiesta ST, no Focus ST."

The Chevrolet Camaro is a popular American performance car. The host is saying it’s gone, so there aren’t as many domestic choices anymore.

Car

Focus ST

"There's no Fiesta ST, no Focus ST. Those things,"

The Focus ST is a sporty version of the Ford Focus. The host is listing it as another affordable performance car that’s no longer available.

Car

Ford Fiesta

"Camaro is gone. There's no Fiesta ST, no Focus ST."

The Fiesta ST is a sporty, small Ford hatchback. The host is saying you can’t buy that kind of affordable performance car anymore.

Car

Pontiac G8

"There's not Pontiac G8. Those are some of these performance type cars that came from those domestic brands that those are all completely gone."

The Pontiac G8 was a sporty Pontiac sedan. The host is saying you can’t buy cars like that anymore.

Place

San Jose

"..., especially to the South Bay Area, where in San Jose, we have the highest collection of ultra high net worth individuals in the United States,"

San Jose is a big city in the Bay Area of California. The host is using it to explain why you see lots of very expensive cars there.

Concept

ultra high net worth individuals

"And then the side piece to that is, you then come to the Bay Area, especially to the South Bay Area, where in San Jose, we have the highest collection of ultra high net worth individuals in the United States, depending which report you're looking at,"

“Ultra high net worth” means people who are extremely wealthy. The host is saying there are so many of them in San Jose that expensive cars show up everywhere.

Car

Porsche 911

"So those people are the ones running out like, oh, I'll buy a Taycan, 911, oh GT3 RS, yeah, I'll have one of those, and I'll have a Corvette, and I'll have it, whatever."

The 911 GT3 RS is a very hardcore, track-oriented Porsche. The host is saying rich people buy cars like this without worrying about the cost.

Car

Porsche Taycan

"So those people are the ones running out like, oh, I'll buy a Taycan, 911, oh GT3 RS, yeah, I'll have one of those, and I'll have a Corvette, and I'll have it, whatever."

The Porsche Taycan is Porsche’s electric car. The host is saying rich people in the Bay Area buy cars like this without it being a big deal.

Car

Chevrolet Corvette

"...RS, yeah, I'll have one of those, and I'll have a Corvette, and I'll have it, whatever. That's why I don't w..."

The Chevrolet Corvette is a performance sports car built to go fast and handle well. The podcast mentions it as something someone would want to own. It’s brought up because it’s a top-tier choice for people who want a serious sports car.

Car

Scion Frs

"...hey're like, but they're like, I wouldn't want an FRS or a BRZ. I don't know who buys those, right? Bec..."

The Scion FR-S is a small sports car designed to be fun to drive. The podcast suggests it might not be for everyone and asks who would choose it. It’s mentioned because it’s a niche option compared with more practical cars.

Car

BRZ

"But they're like, but they're like, I wouldn't want an FRS or a BRZ. I don't know who buys those, right?"

The BRZ is a small Subaru sports car that’s meant to be fun to drive. The hosts are saying they’re not sure who buys cars like this compared with more expensive options.

Car

Toyota GR Corolla

"...my gosh, that's such a cool, interesting thing, a GR Corolla. And it's like, yeah, you got to be able to affor..."

The Toyota GR Corolla is a sporty version of a compact hatchback. It’s made for people who want a more exciting drive than a normal daily car. The podcast mentions it as something interesting that you can potentially afford.

Term

vehicle sizes

"asking us about the measurements on the vehicles commenting about what we were suggesting previously, that we're trying to figure out how we describe vehicle sizes and turning radiuses and all that."

Vehicle size means the car’s physical dimensions. The hosts are talking about how those measurements help you understand what’s easier to live with day to day.

Term

turning radiuses

"we're trying to figure out how we describe vehicle sizes and turning radiuses and all that."

Turning radius is how tight the car can turn. A smaller number usually means it’s easier to make sharp turns and park.

Term

turning circle

"really appreciates the 30 and a half foot turning circle. So a website I haven't used, he says you go to carsize.com to get relative comparisons for car sizes."

Turning circle is how wide a car’s turn needs to be. A smaller turning circle usually makes parking and tight turns easier.

Concept

Honda and Nissan merger

"But he had a further question about Honda and Nissan. And we did touch on this... we talked about this one that was, it was fresh news about what happens with Honda and Nissan merger and how that fell apart."

A merger is when two companies try to join together. They’re talking about whether Honda and Nissan still might do that after earlier reports said it didn’t happen.

Car

Acura RDX

"We've got, you know, a year off for, actually more than a year off for the RDX. When it comes back, I'm not sure why it's coming back."

The Acura RDX is Acura’s compact luxury crossover, and the host mentions it as being about a year out from a refresh. The point is used to argue Acura’s lineup momentum is weak and the timing/need for the model’s return is questionable.

Car

Acura MDX

"It's exactly MDX sales are down. A large portion of their volume was the, the General Motors made ZDX."

The Acura MDX is Acura’s bigger luxury SUV. The host says its sales have been dropping, which they use as evidence that Acura’s lineup is struggling.

Car

Acura Integra

"has been before with the Integra and the ADX in the lineup being very, very civicky, right?"

The Acura Integra is a smaller Acura model. The host says it feels too similar to regular Honda cars, which is part of why they think Acura should be folded into Honda.

Brand

Cadillac

"They're like, it's not a Cadillac. It's not trying to compete with Lexus or anything."

Cadillac is GM’s main luxury brand. The host says Buick isn’t trying to act like Cadillac, so it’s aiming at a different kind of luxury buyer.

Car

Honda Passport

"...ay, gets absorbed in, and then you have more of a passport support. But Honda's not trying to be accurate in..."

The Honda Passport is a midsize SUV meant for everyday use. It’s designed to be practical, with features that help for regular driving and occasional tougher conditions. The podcast mentions it while talking about how the model fits into Honda’s lineup.

Term

part sharing

"It would just cost a lot less. And then of course, there would have to be a lot of part sharing with Nissan. And that's the thing that would take a long time."

Part sharing means using the same parts across different cars to save money. It can take time to coordinate because the companies have to agree on designs and production plans.

Concept

corporate mergers

"And that's the thing that would take a long time. And probably the reason that some of these corporate mergers don't work out well, long term, is that if the two car companies are in troubled times, then how do you stay with it long enough to get out of the troubled times?"

A corporate merger is when two companies join together. In car terms, it can be hard to combine everything—like designs and production—especially if one company is struggling financially.

Term

Prince engine

"So resources and and R&D costs saved because they were able to take the Prince engine, refresh it a little bit, jam it in North American factory."

“Prince engine” is a name for a specific set of gasoline engines used across several brands. The idea here is that the company can update that engine and build it in North America instead of designing a whole new one.

Term

body on frame

"The things they could do right away would be Honda could work on an actual body on frame truck, for instance, because Nissan does have truck platforms that sell well globally."

“Body on frame” means the car has a separate heavy metal skeleton (the frame) and the body bolts to it. Trucks often use this because it can handle work and rough roads well.

Concept

brand retail space

"I think that's the bigger help globally would be some of that brand retail space being able to be shared. In North America, they're more of a direct competitor."

“Brand retail space” is basically where a car brand sells cars—dealership buildings and lots. If brands share that space, they can sell in more places without building everything from scratch.

Brand

Datsun

"How long do you think before we see some manufacturers truly drop off? Someone sent me a day of a Datsun, and I said, you're lucky I even know what that is, because I am not in an age where those existed, especially new cars, they were all Nissan's at that point."

Datsun was an older name Nissan used for cars. Over time, the company moved to using the Nissan name everywhere.

Brand

Saab

"I said, I know most of them, but look at things like Saab, Saturn, Scion, Pontiac, a lot in the US. These brands that used to make cars that you'd find on the road, they're gone."

Saab was a car brand that used to be sold in many places, but it eventually went away. The host is using it as an example of brands that don’t exist anymore.

Brand

Saturn

"I said, I know most of them, but look at things like Saab, Saturn, Scion, Pontiac, a lot in the US. These brands that used to make cars that you'd find on the road, they're gone."

Saturn was a car brand that GM ran for a while in the U.S. The host is listing it as an example of a brand that disappeared.

Brand

Tesla

"But what we have seen is we've seen Tesla, Rivian, Lucid, Polestar. We've seen, we've got Scout, maybe, Slate, maybe, these things that are adding to, but when are we going to hit too many because there's always got to be a reshuffling."

Tesla is a company that makes electric cars. The host is mentioning it along with other EV brands to talk about how new brands keep coming and old ones fade.

Brand

Polestar

"But what we have seen is we've seen Tesla, Rivian, Lucid, Polestar. We've seen, we've got Scout, maybe, Slate, maybe, these things that are adding to, but when are we going to hit too many because there's always got to be a reshuffling."

Polestar makes electric cars, often with a premium feel. The host is grouping it with other EV brands to talk about how many automakers are competing.

Brand

Scout

"We've seen, we've got Scout, maybe, Slate, maybe, these things that are adding to, but when are we going to hit too many because there's always got to be a reshuffling."

Scout is mentioned as another newer car brand that could be coming into the market. The point here is that there are lots of new brands trying to grow.

Brand

Slate

"We've seen, we've got Scout, maybe, Slate, maybe, these things that are adding to, but when are we going to hit too many because there's always got to be a reshuffling."

Slate is mentioned as another potential new car brand. The host doesn’t give details here, so it’s mostly part of the “too many brands” discussion.

Brand

General Motors

"Now, General Motors has done a good job of pulling a lot of those things closer and not being as large. Ford's sitting there with Ford and Lincoln, but what's Lincoln doing these days?"

General Motors is a big car company. The host is saying GM has simplified its brand lineup more than some others.

Brand

Lincoln

"Ford's sitting there with Ford and Lincoln, but what's Lincoln doing these days? I'm just wondering, are we ready to lose somebody?"

Lincoln is Ford’s luxury car brand. The host is wondering what Lincoln is doing and whether the company could lose a brand.

Brand

Mitsubishi

"small? Does somebody pick up Mitsubishi for some reason or are we looking at in 10, 15, [4414.0s] 20 years losing a couple more nameplates?"

Mitsubishi is a car company from Japan. The discussion here is about whether smaller automakers like Mitsubishi might get absorbed, reduced, or reorganized as the US market changes.

Car

Ford Escape

"...te's got the best possibility of really achieving escape velocity. Let's put that way. It would not surpri..."

The Ford Escape is a compact SUV, meaning it’s a smaller family-friendly vehicle with higher seating than a sedan. The podcast mentions it while talking about SUVs and how they fit buyers’ needs. It’s relevant because many people choose compact SUVs for everyday versatility.

Car

Fisker Ocean

"I'm going to go for [4435.8s] the turn into a Fisker Ocean at some point. Let's put it that way."

The Fisker Ocean is an electric SUV. The host is using it as a benchmark for pricing—basically saying the price they’re guessing won’t be as low as $25,000.

Brand

Infinity

"I would say Infinity is not [4441.5s] long for the world. That would be my personal guess that they'd probably be the first one to get [4446.6s] whacked in any future Nissan problems."

This sounds like they meant Infiniti, which is Nissan’s luxury brand. They’re speculating that Infiniti might be shut down or phased out before other brands.

Concept

dealer contraction

"Mitsubishi does not have the most stellar product lineup in the US, so we have seen some dealer contraction as I recall there."

Dealer contraction means fewer car dealerships are staying open. If a brand isn’t selling as many cars, it may close some locations to cut costs.

Brand

Fiat

"Do we need Fiat in the US? [4481.1s] Because you've got the other Stellantis things."

Fiat is an Italian car brand. The host is saying Fiat doesn’t really fit in the US market anymore, and that the company should focus on other brands instead.

Brand

Stellantis

"Because you've got the other Stellantis things. I think that was a matter of pride for the FCA [4485.1s] conglomerate, which is now Stellantis even bigger arms outstretched."

Stellantis is a big group that owns several car brands. The host is saying that since Stellantis already has other brands, Fiat may not be necessary in the US.

Brand

FCA

"I think that was a matter of pride for the FCA [4485.1s] conglomerate, which is now Stellantis even bigger arms outstretched."

FCA was the company name for Fiat Chrysler Automobiles before it became Stellantis. It’s mentioned here to explain how the brand lineup got reorganized.

Car

Fiat 500

"...nse in the US. I would argue it was actually Fiat 500. Right. I would argue that the alpha brand doesn'..."

The Fiat 500 is a very small car designed for city driving. The podcast mentions it when talking about which small cars people want and what might make sense to bring to the US. It’s relevant because small cars are usually chosen for easy parking and maneuvering.

Brand

alpha

"I would argue it was actually Fiat 500. Right. I would argue that the alpha [4514.6s] brand doesn't make sense either. That alpha should be just discontinued."

They’re talking about Alfa Romeo (the Italian brand). The host’s idea is that it might not be worth keeping Alfa Romeo as its own brand in the US if it can be handled under another luxury brand instead.

Brand

Maserati

"And the alpha things that are [4521.0s] there that are interesting, you either stick on the Maserati side, which has a better brand name [4525.9s] apparently in the US, according to most polls, you jam the ones that make sense over there on [4529.9s] Maserati"

Maserati is a luxury car brand from Italy. The host is suggesting that if Alfa Romeo doesn’t make sense as a separate brand, those cars could be sold under Maserati instead.

Company

Silantis

"Yeah, I do think it is probably Silantis that's closest to consolidating, [4565.9s] right? It's the, like I said, the big GM consolidation."

“Silantis” sounds like they mean Stellantis, a big car company that owns multiple brands. The hosts are talking about how big automakers group brands together and simplify their lineups.

Brand

Rivian

"Rivian said we can do that, but differently. And obviously they're EV manufacturers."

Rivian makes electric vehicles. The hosts are saying it’s trying to take advantage of the same market shift, but with a different strategy.

Term

luxury segment

"Tesla in the luxury segment, not the mainstream segment, which always it makes me funny that there are people that will argue that left, right and center, you know, you're looking at a hundred thousand dollar model S and they're like, it's not a luxury car, it's a mainstream car."

“Luxury segment” is a market category based on pricing, brand positioning, and typical buyer expectations—not just whether a car has leather or fancy features. The hosts debate whether Tesla should be treated as luxury based on how it’s priced and who it attracts, even if some people still label it “mainstream.”

Car

Tesla Model S

"you know, you're looking at a hundred thousand dollar model S and they're like, it's not a luxury car, it's a mainstream car."

The Tesla Model S is an electric luxury car. The hosts are debating whether it should be considered “luxury” like the big traditional brands, partly because of how much it costs and who buys it.

Car

BMW 5 Series

"And I'm like, that's not a dodge. That's definitely trying to be a five series, something, you know."

The BMW 5 Series is a well-known German luxury sedan. The hosts are using it as a reference for what kind of car Tesla is trying to compete with.

Car

Tesla Model 3

"Tesla Tesla's Model 3 is competing very directly with three series and C class, etc. It's not a Camry sized thing."

The Tesla Model 3 is an electric sedan. The discussion is about where it fits—whether it’s really a mainstream car like a Toyota Camry, or more like a luxury European-style car based on size, price, and who buys it.

Car

BMW 3 Series

"Model 3 is competing very directly with three series and C class, etc."

The BMW 3 Series is a popular German sedan that many people consider a “near-luxury” car. The hosts are saying the Tesla Model 3 is aiming at the same kind of customer.

Car

Mercedes-Benz C-Class

"Model 3 is competing very directly with three series and C class, etc."

The Mercedes-Benz C-Class is a smaller Mercedes luxury sedan. The hosts are saying the Tesla Model 3 is competing with cars like this, not with typical mainstream sedans.

Car

Toyota Corolla

"And it's priced more like the European luxury segment than a Corolla, because it's,"

The Toyota Corolla is a very common mainstream compact car. The hosts are saying the Tesla Model 3 costs more and targets a different buyer than a Corolla would.

Car

Tesla Model Y

"They're like, well, you know, the, the Model 3 or the Model Y lacks these things. And we think our customers want these things and whatever,"

The Tesla Model Y is an electric crossover. They’re talking about how it stacks up against luxury-brand offerings and whether Tesla should be treated as a true luxury competitor.

Car

Mercedes-Benz E-Class

"when model, when Tesla started selling Model S's and those Model S's started eating into and taking customers away from E class and five series,"

The Mercedes-Benz E-Class is a traditional luxury sedan. The point here is that Tesla’s Model S was strong enough to pull some buyers away from Mercedes’ E-Class customers.

Car

S class

"tried to make it an S class. Model S has never been S class or seven series. It's not big enough."

“S-Class” is Mercedes-Benz’s top luxury sedan. The host is using it as a yardstick for the biggest, most premium category, and saying the Model S isn’t really that size/class.

Car

seven series

"Model S has never been S class or seven series. It's not big enough."

“7 Series” is BMW’s top luxury sedan. The host is saying the Model S isn’t really in the same top, full-size category as BMW’s flagship.

Brand

Kia

"Hyundai and Kia are just awful little cars and they're not worth any time. And we shouldn't, we should never be even comparing them against Toyotas and Hondas."

The host is saying Kia is competing for the same kind of buyers as Toyota and Honda. In other words, Kia isn’t just being compared to the cheapest options—people are actually considering it when they shop mainstream new cars.

Concept

Venn diagram

"But they're saying that in that circle, that in this Venn diagram of people that are shopping Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, that is not quite the same Venn circle that's over here buying Ford Jeep, Chevy, et cetera."

The host uses a “Venn diagram” metaphor to describe how different brands overlap in the real-world set of shoppers who consider them. The point is that Toyota/Honda buyers cross-shop Hyundai/Kia in a different way than Ford/Jeep/Chevy shoppers do.

Term

MSRPs

"as Hyundai and Kias fortunes have risen, so to have their MSRPs."

MSRP is the price listed on the car’s window sticker by the manufacturer. The hosts are saying those sticker prices have gone up for Hyundai and Kia.

Car

Hyundai Palisade

"the Telluride and the Palisade are not suburban and expeditions, right?"

The Hyundai Palisade is a family SUV with three rows. The hosts are using it as an example of Hyundai doing well in big SUV categories.

Car

Kia Telluride

"when you're looking for a very large SUV, you're still looking at the domestic brands... the Telluride and the Palisade are not suburban and expeditions, right?"

The Kia Telluride is a midsize family SUV with three rows of seats. The hosts mention it to show Kia already competes strongly in big, popular SUV categories.

Car

Chevrolet Suburban

"... you know, the Telluride and the Palisade are not suburban and expeditions, right? No. But where there's sti..."

The Chevrolet Suburban is a very large SUV made to carry lots of people and gear. The podcast brings it up while comparing it to other big SUVs. It’s usually chosen by families or anyone who needs extra space.

Car

Ford Expedition

"the Telluride and the Palisade are not suburban and expeditions, right?"

The Ford Expedition is a big full-size SUV. The hosts are comparing it to Hyundai/Kia’s midsize SUVs to show there’s still a gap in the largest categories.

Concept

mid-sized truck

"Hyundai is knocking on the door is that mid-sized truck, a full-sized truck, that would be really interesting to see."

A mid-sized truck is a pickup that’s not as big as the biggest full-size trucks, but bigger than the smallest ones. The hosts are saying Hyundai might be trying to compete in that truck size class next.

Concept

full-sized truck

"Hyundai is knocking on the door is that mid-sized truck, a full-sized truck, that would be really interesting to see."

A full-sized truck is the biggest mainstream pickup size. The hosts are saying Hyundai could eventually go after this larger truck market too.

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