Listeners are treated to a lively discussion about various car noises, repairs, and modifications. The hosts tackle listener questions, including concerns about a Tesla's self-drive update and a 2023 Mustang's cold air intake. They also delve into a 2009 Sonata's tire wear issues and the importance of proper alignment. The episode features insights on how to handle common automotive problems, emphasizing the significance of maintenance and the potential pitfalls of DIY repairs. With humor and expertise, the hosts provide valuable advice for car enthusiasts and everyday drivers alike.
"In your case, if you have a totally stock vehicle that's working, running fine and you have a desire to put a cold air intake on it, that modification alone does not require any special programming or anything like that."
A cold air intake is a part you can add to your car that lets it breathe in cooler air from outside, which can make the engine feel a bit faster and sometimes give a little extra power.
A cold air intake is a modification that replaces the factory air filter and ducting with a larger, often more efficient system to draw cooler, denser air into the engine. This can improve throttle response and provide a small power increase.
"And I said, well, okay, that makes sense. But I took it to another place and had it checked out and they said that the first dealership that put new brake pads on it."
Brake pads are the parts that help your car stop. They get worn out and need to be changed.
Brake pads are the friction material that presses against the rotor to slow or stop a vehicle. They wear down over time and need replacement.
"Because the front brake bias is when you step on your brakes, you're going to get more braking pressure on your front wheels."
When you press the brake pedal, the car’s brakes try to stop it. Front brake bias means that most of that stopping power is sent to the front wheels, which helps keep the car stable and stops it faster.
Front brake bias refers to the distribution of braking force between a vehicle’s front and rear wheels. Most cars are designed so that a larger portion of the braking effort is applied to the front wheels because they handle more weight during deceleration.
"But I got a 93 F-250-773-IDI. And over here in the great state of South Dakota is freezing."
A Ford F‑250 from 1993 is a big truck that people used for hauling and everyday driving. It’s still common on roads today.
The 1993 Ford F-250 is a full‑size pickup truck known for its durability and heavy‑duty capability. It was popular in the 1990s for both work and family use.
"And the thermostat got stuck. We're changing it out."
The thermostat is a small part that helps keep the engine from getting too hot or too cold. If it gets stuck, the engine can overheat.
The thermostat is a valve that regulates engine coolant flow to maintain optimal operating temperature. A stuck thermostat can cause overheating or poor fuel economy.
An O-ring is a round rubber piece that sits in a groove to stop liquid from leaking out. It’s like a tiny seal around the thermostat.
An O-ring is a circular rubber seal used to prevent leaks between two surfaces. In the context of a thermostat, it helps keep coolant from leaking around the valve.
"It's almost like a hydraulic lifter's leading off pressure."
Think of it as a tiny oil‑powered cushion that keeps the engine’s valves moving smoothly. If it starts to slip, you’ll hear a clacking sound.
A hydraulic lifter is a valve-gear component that uses engine oil pressure to keep the valve stem and camshaft lobe in contact, eliminating clearance "tick" when the engine is cold. When oil pressure drops or the lifter wears, it can "lead off" and produce a clacking noise.
"It does have the manifold leaks, but this will click exactly four times every time it started cold."
If the part that directs air or exhaust gases in your car has a hole, it can let gas escape. This makes the engine run poorly and can lower power.
A manifold leak occurs when the intake or exhaust manifold, which channels air or exhaust gases into the engine, develops a hole or crack allowing fluid to escape. This can cause loss of compression, rough idling, and reduced performance.
"That's not an exhaust leak. Different than the manifold leaks."
When the part that carries exhaust gases out of the engine has a hole, gas can escape. This makes your car louder and less efficient.
An exhaust leak is a hole or crack in the exhaust system that allows gases to escape before reaching the muffler. This can lead to increased noise, reduced fuel efficiency, and potential safety hazards.
Hot Shot Secret is a company that makes products you can add to your car’s engine oil or fuel to help fix certain noises or problems.
Hot Shot Secret is a brand that produces additives and treatments for internal combustion engines, often marketed to address ticking noises or improve performance.
"It's a lifter additive, a lifter fix for the tick."
A lifter additive is a special liquid you mix with your engine oil to help clean the parts that lift the valves, which can stop a ticking noise.
A lifter additive is a chemical added to engine oil that cleans and lubricates the valve train’s hydraulic lifters, often used to reduce ticking sounds caused by buildup.
"It's a lifter additive, a lifter fix for the tick."
A lifter fix is a product you add to your engine oil that helps stop the ticking noise from the parts that lift the valves.
A lifter fix refers to a treatment or additive designed specifically to address issues with hydraulic lifters, such as ticking noises caused by wear or contamination.
"Maybe your wheels leak air or maybe you want to upgrade from an old rusty steel wheel."
Wheels are the round parts that hold your tires and let your car roll. They can be made of steel, aluminum, or other materials.
Wheels are the circular components that rotate on a vehicle’s axles, supporting the tires and allowing the car to move. They come in various materials and sizes depending on the vehicle’s design and performance needs.
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car-part.com is a website where you can buy car parts, like engines or wheels, from many different sellers all over North America.
car-part.com is an online marketplace that aggregates automotive parts from thousands of suppliers across North America, allowing consumers to search for and purchase components for a wide range of vehicles.
"[1741.0s] They have a design limit.
[1743.0s] And whatever that may be,"
Design limit means the point where a car part, like an engine, is built to last. It’s the maximum it can handle before it might break or need repair.
A design limit refers to the maximum performance, durability, or stress that a vehicle component—such as an engine—is engineered to withstand before failure.
"[1819.0s] Shannon had all these wiper motors.
[1821.0s] Well, we've got a wiper motor."
The wiper motor is the small part that makes your car’s windshield wipers move. It turns electric power into the up‑and‑down motion you see when it rains.
A wiper motor is an electric component that drives the windshield wipers, converting electrical energy into mechanical motion to clear rain or debris from a vehicle’s windshield.
"until they can get it in and have a software recall done"
Sometimes cars have software glitches that can cause problems. A software recall means the manufacturer will update the car’s computer programs to fix those glitches, usually for free.
A software recall is a manufacturer‑issued update that fixes bugs or safety issues in the vehicle’s electronic control systems. It involves downloading new code to the car’s computers to correct problems that could affect performance or safety.
"and the separator in the battery. They call it something that they can sense by doing the electronic reading of the vehicle."
Inside a car battery, there's a tiny sheet that keeps the two sides from touching. If that sheet gets damaged, it can let electricity flow where it shouldn't and might cause a fire.
The separator is a thin, porous material inside a rechargeable battery that keeps the positive and negative electrodes apart while allowing ions to flow. A damaged separator can cause a short circuit, leading to overheating or fire.
"that have had problems with a liftgate module that shorts out and can start a fire."
The liftgate module is the tiny computer that tells your car’s rear door to open or close. If it malfunctions, it can spark and might start a fire.
The liftgate module is an electronic control unit that manages the opening and closing of a vehicle’s rear door (liftgate). A fault can cause it to short out, potentially creating a fire hazard.
"[2191.0s] isn't it a coma, the Tacoma truck? [2195.0s] It was made from 1990. [2201.0s] It looks like it was made until October 2019."
The Tacoma is a popular pickup truck from Toyota that has been made for many years. It’s good for both everyday driving and off‑road adventures.
The Toyota Tacoma is a midsize pickup truck that has been produced since 1990, with various updates and redesigns over the years. It is known for its off‑road capability and durability.
"[2366.0s] I have a 2009 Sonata.
[2368.0s] 260,000 miles."
The 2009 Sonata is a car made by Hyundai. It’s a family sedan that was sold in the U.S. from 2004 to 2010.
The 2009 Hyundai Sonata is a mid-size sedan known for its spacious interior and fuel-efficient engines. It was produced from 2004 to 2010, with the 2009 model featuring a 2.4L inline‑four engine and front‑wheel drive.
"He says the center of the tire went bald. The center of the tire is worse, yeah."
When the middle part of a tire’s tread becomes very smooth, it means that part has worn out more than the rest. This can make the car slippery and unsafe.
Tire tread that has worn down to the point of being smooth or ‘bald’ indicates excessive wear, which reduces traction and can lead to safety issues. Center tread wear often suggests alignment or suspension problems.
"So if you let ten pounds out of the right front tire, you align the vehicle, then you air that tire up. The car's not going to be lined up... I just put new tires on and got it aligned. When did you do the alignment?"
Alignment is when a mechanic checks and adjusts the angles of your car’s wheels so they point straight. It helps tires wear evenly, makes driving smoother, and saves fuel.
Vehicle alignment refers to the adjustment of a car’s suspension so that the wheels are set at the correct angles relative to each other and the road. Proper alignment ensures even tire wear, good handling, and efficient fuel use.
"Is this an all-wheel drive? Yeah, it's a Subaru or it's this or that."
AWD means the car can send power to both the front and rear wheels at the same time, which helps it grip better on wet or uneven roads.
All-wheel drive (AWD) is a drivetrain configuration that sends power to all four wheels simultaneously, improving traction and handling.
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Thank you very much for listening. This is Under the Hood. Welcome to the Under the Hood Show. We are glad to have you with us. Russ Evans is here to answer your automotive questions. Thanks for joining us under the hood. Shannon Nordstrom is here to do the same. Welcome hoodies. Thanks for tuning in so we can help you tune up. I'm Chris Carter here to answer your calls at 866-594-4150. I want to get right to the calls here. Is there anything quick that we need to get to before we start taking calls?
Are you going to complain about the chair again? No, I'm used to it. Look at me. I'm fine now. One more talk. We talked about the new was the fourth update for the Tesla self-drive mode with the Mad Max mode in it. We'll have to talk about that later for a chance. Yeah, Shannon thought his was aggressive when he put it in the high aggression mode to get where he was going. His car was like, hey calm down, buddy. No, I watched the video of that one. I was like, the Tesla. Drives like his wife.
The car is not in my control right now, but it has the new update in it and I would like to see they gave it free for the month of December. Oh, okay. Yeah, I mean, talk about a drug dealer here. Try this. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure because when you buy the car, I think it was $75 to get it to buy it on an annual just to buy it so you have it. Let me tell you. And then and then otherwise now they have it where you can get it for $99 a month. But they they just made it free for every
buddy. If you had the uploaded your software to the car software and then you downloaded it and you could have it for free for the month of December. But no, no, no, we're going to take it away. Great marketing. So I had 12 albums for a penny. You know, let's talk to Doug. You're on the end of the hood show. Doug, what can we do for you?
I was listening to your first hour and you talking to a gentleman with that 20 Mustangs who had a bunch of issues regarding modifications. Yes.
I just bought a 23 Mustang earlier this year and a California special. And I was thinking about putting a cold air intake on that. Now I'm hesitant to do that with considering that what that 20 Mustang that's going through. Well, I need to do some modifications to the intake or to the programming.
I'm very glad you called because that this is a good, I mean, this is a good way to explain why those situations are different. Possibly 100% possible. In his case, he, I think he had a Heinz 57 of parts that just weren't ever all planned out on how they were going to work or tune together. That's my hunch. And that's a hunch.
We don't know what the problem is. No, that's the so it could be it could be completely unrelated. But the more he talked and the more he said in that call, he didn't make any decisions towards that car. It came to him right in this state. So it just made me think that there was a combination of parts that were never planned out on how to put them together.
In your case, if you have a totally stock vehicle that's working, running fine and you have a desire to put a cold air intake on it, that modification alone does not require any special programming or anything like that.
The only thing that I would just cool, only thing I would just make you aware of is that there's a look cool factor. There is a service ability sometimes of the air cleaner for some people factor.
I don't know that that's something, but you do get a slightly less restricted air flow, which can help slightly with performance at higher PM only.
Yeah, don't expect this to be a major change in your vehicle. Be realistic about what your expectations are when you do no easier. Yeah, makes sound cool sounds more fun. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's that's perfect for us. But just be realistic what your expectations are. But no, you can do that cold air intake as long as it's a good name brand.
Can enter somebody. Yeah, then you've got that. It comes with everything and you get everything sealed up really good because you can't have any loose air. If it's got a math system or whatever might happen to me, make sure it's got provisions to put that back in there. So the factory stuff is intact. Most like said, a name brand one is they've engineered this stuff. They know what they know what they're going to do. You'll have zero problems and follow the rules about oil on those filters. The factory ones that one that comes with it will have the right amount of oil.
It's almost none. It's just enough to attract dirt. You don't hose it down from top to bottom until it drips off like I've seen people do. It's like air doesn't go through oil. You couldn't breathe through that. So why would it work on your engine. It's just a gauze filter. You just lightly put it on there so much as it's almost not there. It's just attracting a little more dust to the filter media. It has to have enough of it that doesn't have any oil on it to breathe.
If you put too much on there, it will cause problems with it running. Most of the problems with cold air and takes are caused by either people leaving parts loose and they don't seal up because they can't fit them on there because they're made in China. They're just not a little bit off. Yeah. And they just sucked dirt in the engine and can damage or kill an engine or run poorly. Or they put too much oil on them. It gets on the mass air flow sensor and then they run poorly.
There's so much for the call and one more thing on that on that car from last show where we talked about all of those things that were done to that car.
If it had been the person who made those decisions and had the shop or whatever doing those in the sequence that they did, they might all be fine.
We just that's not applicable to that call because this call was just the car came like this. We don't know any of the history of how the parts were put on in Doug's case.
If he did the exact same modifications step by step with someone else doing it a tuner shop might be perfectly fine.
So 100% just not not necessarily relevant, but good to be paying attention on that 866-594-4150.
Let's go to West Virginia and talk to Charlotte. You're on the end of the hood show Charlotte. What can we do for you?
I just wanted to ask you a couple questions about a used car I bought.
Let's go for it.
Okay, it's a 22-forward escape older and older woman. I didn't want to tie down to a car payment every month. I like this little car.
But I noticed it kept making sort of like I would call it a moaning noise whenever I would put it in reverse on an incline back out of my driveway.
And that went on for about a month or so I took it back to the dealer and they said, well, it was just because they put new brake pads on it.
And also they said that because there was a residue on the all my wheels all the way around especially the front one.
It was like a greedy dirty like residue on and they said that was where I was picking up dirt and oil from the road.
And I said, well, okay, that makes sense. But I took it to another place and had it checked out and they said that the first dealership that put new brake pads on it.
And that they could call some of that dirt and that you actually do pick up dirt and oil from the roadway.
And I said, well, I'm a seven years old, I've driven the car for years and I've never had my wheels do that before.
So I've made paid attention to other cars out now.
And I have seen some like that but not very many.
So I had new shocks put on the front, new brakes put on the front, had the wheels reversed from the front to the back.
And the moaning noise has quit.
So I don't know what do you all think about that? What could be cause of that?
I mean, it was just like a moan.
And it didn't do it.
Well, sometimes it would do it when I back up on the flat, but mostly it was on.
And you're not doing any high speed J turns film and videos.
And that stuff.
Hey, I'm in for it.
Do it.
I'm not even up yet.
Oh, I love it. I love it.
The.
Basically a mountain in the mountain.
The mountain statue.
How it is around here.
If you've been with G is up and down up and down up and down up and down.
My.
Beautiful.
My instincts are is that they were probably right on the brake noise that it was making.
That can sound very architectural and noise.
You know, when it lets loose and it kind of shakes the soul of the vehicle.
If it's just that slight shutter against the brake rotors and beans.
You're in the mountains.
I will tell you that.
Yes, you picked up off of the road, but you guarantee that they make products to clean brake dust off of wheels.
It's a it's a real thing.
And certain types of wheel patterns will attract more brake and brake dust is basically the best way to call it.
It's just residue that's coming off the brakes as you're using them.
And in the when it's hot, it kind of sticks to the to the wheels.
It has almost greasy.
Yes, it is.
It's almost like a great.
Yep.
No, it's brake dust is what it is.
You don't pick that much up off the road.
You can pick up some, but most of that is going to come off your tires and be on the base of your fender or the base of your rear quarter panels.
If it's on the wheels, even if you drive through a puddle, it typically doesn't end up completely on your wheels.
It splashes it somewhere else.
That stuff that's on the wheels is mainly coming from inside the wheels from the brakes.
And if you're in a lot of mountains and you ride the brake a little bit, that's where you're going to get that stuff.
And you said it great.
If you if you see that on another car, it might be just because of the shape of the wheels of the internal wheel.
Yeah, and some of you and some colors of wheels are more just you see it more on there.
And so they make some spray on there.
And if you get if you keep it clean, it'll mostly just wipe right off with the right cleaners.
And I just...
Well, of course, I have to take it right clear because I've tried a little bit of it.
And it was a well maintained car.
I had the Carfax report on it and whoever had it before took really good care on it.
But I just couldn't figure that out because like I said, I'm 87 years old and I've had I've driven a lot of cars.
I've never had a car that's done this before.
Nobody can give me an answer for it.
Mainly on the front wheels, right?
Charlotte?
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because the front brake bias is when you step on your brakes, you're going to get more braking pressure on your front wheels.
And some of those vehicles, you know, just until the last 10 years, they still had drum brakes on the rear.
But in this case, they're disc brakes on there.
But you're not...
You'll wear out two or three sets of front brake pads before you'll wear out a set of mirrors typically.
And so that's where that pressure is at. That's where you get that residue.
Thanks very much for the call. Good luck.
866-594-4150.
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Let's talk to Jerry. You're on the end of the hood show, Jerry.
What can we do for you?
Do you mean Darian?
Yes.
Darian. Go ahead.
It's a radio thing.
Yeah.
We'll work on that.
Go ahead.
That's totally different.
So I have kind of a dumb, rusty question.
But I got a 93 F-250-773-IDI.
And over here in the great state of South Dakota is freezing.
Well, I put some 50-50 in that apparently wasn't 50-50.
I had some ice filled up.
And the thermostat got stuck.
We're changing it out.
And we're putting in the...
A new thermostat and a new gasket in last night.
And to my belief, if a gasket...
If you're putting in a gasket, the thermostat does not eat an O-ring, correct?
Well, that depends on...
Now that one should have a gasket
and just a regular thermostat with no O-ring,
if I remember right for that year.
But there are thermostats they typically will use.
So you could have one with a gasket or one with just an O-ring.
Or you can have one with both.
So you've got one kind that the...
So the thermostat sits in a groove.
And then you put the paper gasket on and you put the top on it.
But some manufacturers over the years make the groove deeper
so that there's an O-ring around the thermostat
that is made to keep the water from flowing by the thermostat
and keep it tight in there.
But they also use a gasket, so they use both.
So if you put the thermostat in
and then you hold up the cover to it without the gasket on there,
if it doesn't hold the thermostat securely in there,
if it would flop around because there's space,
it needs a seal around the thermostat
and then it also needs the paper gasket to seal it.
But there are a lot of cars out there
that just use the rubber around the thermostat.
The part store should be able to tell you what your model takes.
It should say it's not like some of the ones in that year did.
Some 93s do, some 93s don't.
It's going to be one or the other.
But if I remember right, that one just uses a paper gasket.
If I'm thinking right.
When you set that thermostat in the groove,
it's almost going to be flush with the surface.
It's going to be in there pretty snug.
Isn't that how yours fits?
So when I pulled one out, it did not have an O-ring.
The new one I got did have an O-ring
and there is a groove in that engine bar.
So I just assumed that maybe the one I didn't have didn't have an O-ring.
I put the thermostat in, the gasket on top
and while tighten it down,
and you're cracking my thermostat house.
Then it's not supposed to have the O-ring.
Oh, that's a hard way to figure it out.
The good thing is, most of those thermostat housings,
I know Dorman products makes a ton of those.
So we'll call and ask for a Dorman housing on vehicles
when they break or if they're corroded.
It's pretty common.
I think they make this one for this vehicle too.
I haven't had to buy one a long time.
I don't like the Grand Prix's and vehicle sabers and all those kind of things.
Like Acadia, anything with a housing that somebody could possibly break.
They make them and they make them stronger than the original
because they're problematic.
I think you bend them before you're broken.
But on yours, I always want to set that housing on there
and make sure it sits completely flush
before I start tightening it down
because that's a real issue because they're cast
and they will snap.
Goes with any part you're putting on a car starter or anything.
You want to make sure it sits.
I just put it from pre-looking and there's not a lot of essentially research
out there regarding the access.
Again, trucks 30 years old and kind of a dying age of vehicles.
So I was confused on whether the oil ring was needed or not,
considering that I had two different kinds.
You made a comment at the beginning of the call about the 50-50 diesel.
Oh, cool.
Oh, cool.
I assume you were talking about winter blend on the fuel.
I apologize.
Yeah, our partner over a peak won't give you that product.
It'll be mixed right?
Yeah, I found that on a very, very cold day
when my truck was overheating
and I was doing the exact opposite trying to figure that out.
You know, it makes complete sense with the context of your call
when I think about it now.
I was the same.
At first, I thought he was talking about the diesel truck
and the indirect injected 93 power stroke.
You got to have the right.
So we had at least a half a dozen people.
We were in the mid-30s and 40s for a long time
and we had some of those days where we hit close to 70
that went on a very long time and everybody was thinking,
oh, is winter ever going to get here?
And then within five days, we were below zero.
And the high temps were like in the teens
and we had all these people, hey, my truck won't run.
It was like a diesel.
Yeah, how do you know?
Like, did you put...
Oh, I put the right fuel in it.
Tell me where you got it.
Well, I went to the gas station and they said it was for winter.
I said, well, one, a lot of them will have the labor out
and they're not actually winter fuel yet.
And two, are you putting an additive in every single tank
like we've recommended to you before?
Well, I didn't think I needed it.
Yeah, you do.
You need the right fuel and the right additive.
And if you don't know what you're buying out of the pump
if you have even a gas, definitely mix it the correct way
with the additive to make sure you have what you need.
Are you going to gel it up?
And you're going to be anywhere from its chugging
and running slow till it warms up to, I'm on the side of the road
to, I need an engine because I smoked an cylinder
because the thing ran down on, ran off your,
and they're like, oh, I didn't know I needed that.
Okay, these were regular customers we talked to many times
about this.
So it's crazy.
866-594-4150.
Let's talk to Elliott.
You're on the end of the hood show.
Elliott, what can we do for you?
Hi.
I have a 2019 Dodge 570.
It has kind of a funny noise when I started out.
What kind of noise?
It's a clacking.
A clacking.
It's almost like a hydraulic lifter's leading off pressure.
These were huge for exhaust manifold leaks, huge,
until it warms up.
That's one thing.
It does have the manifold leaks,
but this will click exactly four times every time
it started cold.
That's not an exhaust leak.
Different than the manifold leaks.
Well, it's a bummer that you know is that noise too?
I get a little nervous on these engines
because of some lifter issues we've had in the past with them.
I got a product we tried to do the day that worked amazingly well
from our partner over at Hot Shot Secret.
It's a lifter additive, a lifter fix for the tick.
You might try it and just see if it makes a change.
If it does, that's what's going on.
If you have a mechanical failure where it's actually mechanical wear,
metal missing, that's not going to fix it.
But if you've got gum and varnish build up in there,
that's what it's made for.
You can get rid of the tick, just on start that's there for just a second.
If it's a mechanical failure or a cam worn out,
lifter worn out, it's going to be continuous.
It's not going to stop.
It's good that you're at this point where you might be able to fix it,
get rid of this noise.
I have about just not going on 60,000 miles.
Is there a certain mileage where you see the cam and lifters?
Anywhere from 60 to 90 if they're going to fail,
it seems to be in that area that we see the most of them.
I don't get a lot of them that come in until...
I talked to a local mechanic,
and he suggested that he put either a 040 or a 540 weight oil.
He said Dodge started having the lifter cam problems
when they switched to the 540,
which it calls for.
What's your opinion on that?
I wouldn't go change in that oil too much,
unless the factory has tested it,
and they recommend it,
and are not having a problem with it.
You could check to see if there's a bulletin about it,
right?
To see if you recommend it.
And look at the forums and see if anybody's been running it
for two or three years with no problems.
I get really nervous when somebody says,
try this because they're not going to say,
well, it didn't work.
Let me get you an engine.
No problem.
I'd rather try that additive with the correct viscosity of oil
than to try different oil.
Because if I was going to try something first.
It works 60,000 miles without it,
so why not?
It might clean it up.
It would be pretty cheap.
Elliot, thanks very much for the call.
I feel terrible that he said 60,000 miles,
and you said, yeah, that's about when you start seeing it.
I was hoping you were going to say,
oh, if you made it to 60,000, there's no way.
I don't typically see him before 60.
And if it doesn't fail by 90, we usually
don't see it till you're like at 180, 190,000 miles.
So my solution, I just have to drive it till it's past 90.
And then I'm safe again.
It doesn't work that way, Chris.
No.
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What has caught your attention in the automotive world?
I did find the story that I sent you guys
that a federal court has consolidated all of the lawsuits.
Oh, yeah.
We brought it up.
But we didn't talk much about it.
We just said, oh, boy.
You know, when I came out, I said, there's no way.
People are not going to roll over and say,
okay, I'll put different oil in my truck.
And I feel good about my $100,000 truck.
It's not going to be a problem.
Really?
One of the things I read and I didn't understand a word of it.
I know one thing's for sure.
People will make all the money or the lawyers.
One of the things they said was that it's possible that in their effort to fix it,
their effort, like, do this, do the different oil.
And by not letting the...
Or by fighting each lawsuit individually,
that backfire down them to make it one giant lawsuit.
Then by trying to fix the problem,
they might have given evidence to why this lawsuit should have been combined.
Does that make sense?
Yes.
A little bit.
Yeah.
Like they made change that if they hadn't, they could have denied it.
All of there were no problems.
Why would you change the oil?
Right.
Yeah.
Basically, yeah.
Why would you try to help people?
Oh, we'll prevent it.
Now, if they could have shown evidence and said,
no, we should have always put this in every single engine all the time.
And we're going to put it in other vehicles that aren't under the recall too.
Oh, wait a second.
You said they're the same design, right?
Well, they're the same design.
Why would you have a problem in this one?
But not in that one.
Oh.
It's tough.
Once that cat's out of the bag,
and they can only think so long on this,
because it was becoming a snowball very quickly.
And it still is.
We've had customers virus.
My truck just locked up in the middle of the road.
What do I do?
Call your dealer.
Get it off the road.
It's a tough little, tough little thing.
I got more people that have been interested lately in products
like the Justice Brothers Heavy Duty Vehicle and things,
anything with a metal conditioner in it,
to treat things than ever before.
And they're like, where can I use it other than just the engine?
Is there worried about?
It seems like a lot of the things that are happening lately are where issues,
oil system failures.
You know, we're talking about crankshafts and lifters.
How many times do we talk about lifters on this show in camps?
And every manufacturer, it doesn't matter who it is.
Forward with the thing we called a camphazers.
It wasn't a camphaser problem.
It was other problems that led to that as the symptom.
You know, we talk about GM.
We talk with their AFM.
We talk about RAM and dodging with their failure.
The ones we don't see cam and lifter issues with is Toyota.
Honda, we see it with some of those Odyssey engines, but Toyota.
Nope.
And they have to have, we understand there's a balance.
You can build an engine.
If the engineers look and see all the failures that have happened
over all the years with all the engines,
and they know the reasons why,
because they've had them long enough,
they can say, okay, let's build an engine that'll last
without all these failures.
As a car manufacturer and part of the world's economy,
do you really want an engine and a car to last forever?
They have a design limit.
And whatever that may be,
if you say seven years, ten years,
the average age of the car has gone up now.
Do I think almost 14 years?
We'll just call it a 14-year car.
If every car on the road now lasts 20 years,
the global economy would take a giant hit,
which would roll over to food prices, everything.
You've got to have an end of life to vehicles for the normal person.
Now, should a person be able to do special things,
use additives, take care of it,
and have a car go 30 years?
Sure, if you want to do that,
but on average, things are made to be bought sold
and other people are out there going,
no, we want them to last longer.
Think right now, how long has every car you've owned?
How long have you kept it?
Oh, I guess I bought it two or three years old,
and I only kept it five years, and then I sold it.
So it doesn't matter to you if the car lasts 10 or 15 years.
It's going to break earlier.
Now, we don't want them breaking prematurely.
We should not have a $100,000 GM truck failing at 10,000 miles.
That is wrong.
And that needs to be addressed.
But like you're saying, Chris,
we see these recalls all the time,
and they're a joke when you used to have these,
Shannon had all these wiper motors.
Well, we've got a wiper motor.
We know it fits 40 different applications,
but they're only recalling it in one vehicle.
Same part number, but we only recall it if it's in this car.
But they're all failing, so people are having to buy them
for other vehicles.
Buy it for a Chevy truck when you didn't have to buy it for a suburban
or a van.
It was just crazy.
So I can't imagine the depth of the conversations
behind the closed doors between...
So you've got the engineers.
You've got the people with the money that are running the company.
And then you've got the lawyers.
And I'm sure there's been a lot of them.
Don't say that with us in the room.
This is going to cost you so much money.
We don't want a plausible deniability.
We don't want to hear this.
It's like Fred, did you design this?
No.
Well, you're taking the fall today.
Yeah, for sure.
You're going to be fired.
We're going to move you over to hub cap design
and we'll blame it on you, so we don't have to look at it.
One of the discussions I saw about this,
they were talking about how there's really no tangible way
to put a value on it, but the hit that manufacturers
or anyone takes when there's something like this happens.
How it's almost a generational thing.
When you go back and look at things like the Fords,
there are people who won't buy a Ford
because of a problem that they heard about
that never affected their vehicle.
And that it takes some time and some money
to get out from under anything
when it becomes public.
And no matter what the outcome of the lawsuit is,
they might let's pretend that nothing happens.
One thing will.
And they find that there was no culpability.
It's still, they have to try and get that news out.
The way it got out about the first part.
The Audi 5000 unintended acceleration.
Just put a stain on that brand
for a long time, the Toyota unintended acceleration claims.
All those things just put, they put worry in the marketplace.
And I think the news cycles have gotten so frequent
on vehicle recalls that it almost dumbs it down.
It's like if you put out a tornado warning every summer day,
cloud in the sky, eventually people wouldn't pay any attention.
And now they're putting out serious information
that people are just not taking seriously.
Jeep just recently put out a, basically,
if you have a plug-in EV Wrangler or a Grand Cherokee,
do not park it near a structure, park it outside,
do not charge it in EV mode.
They want you to run it not in EV mode.
They're sending out a $100 gift card for the inconvenience
of not being able to use your EV fuel savings
until they can get it in and have a software recall done
that will identify whether your battery has the problem
and the separator in the battery.
They call it something that they can sense
by doing the electronic reading of the vehicle.
And at that point, they'll replace your battery
if yours has that problem.
And there's other vehicles in the fleet
that have had problems with a liftgate module that shorts out
and can start a fire.
There's just different crazy things that are serious
and if you're not paying attention,
you could have a problem that you need to,
you could have avoided.
And if they try to contact you and you have acknowledged it
and don't do it, then they're like, hey, we tried.
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Got this question off chat.
I have a mid-engine 1996 Toyota Privia
with a blown head gasket.
I forgot about a Privia van.
Engine won't run.
Now should I fix it or replace the engine?
96 blown head gasket mid-engine.
Look that one up so I can remember what it looks like.
Yeah, that's not one you think of every day.
Hot dog looking thing.
Yeah, but slanted nose looked a little ahead of its time.
It'd be hard for me to recommend to someone
to replace an engine in one of those
unless that vehicle had a collection value,
a sentimental value.
I'm sure it's a, I gotta think about what motor they put in there.
We had a number of those back in the day.
If I owned one, I would put a Volkswagen badge on the front
and thought I was driving out.
Are you looking at it on your screen right now?
I would dress it up.
I'd make it an imposter.
I think if we did a survey,
there would be a good chunk of our listening audience
would not have even known that a Toyota Privia was produced.
I think that's probably.
There were true.
There were hundreds of thousands of Chris
look up production numbers on that van.
I bet they'll blow you away.
I bet they made total of all the years over a million
if you go like the span that they made them.
Sure.
Let me see.
I think was it 96 to 01 or something like that?
Yeah, they would have been right in our era of 93.
93.
It's the first one I see.
It's the first one I see.
Yeah, because they were pretty popular,
although I thought they were not pretty.
They just, they just had a weird look.
I think it's have to grow on you.
If it's a common, if I remember right and it's a
common Toyota engine and you could get parts for it,
I would be half tempted to see
did I get a bunch of antifreeze into the oil?
Yes or no?
What was the degree of temperature that it took on?
Did it overheat?
I'd have to take some of those factors into consideration.
If you can do, if you can do a head gasket yourself,
if you're the kind of person that's around the floor,
they're not too bad to work on in there.
It was hard to find an engine though.
I bet now it'd be, I think you'd have a hard time finding one.
I'm just trying to remember what that application was
in that motor because we had a bunch of them back in the day.
I think that is the same engine that was in the truck.
It's small.
The four cylinder.
I think that's the same one that was in the tiny,
isn't it a coma, the Tacoma truck?
Could have been.
It was made from 1990.
1990.
Until it became different models.
It looks like it was made until October 2019.
But the first thing I read said,
it sold like 57,000 the first year
and then fell off sharply.
Oh, fell off.
But it became, yeah, it looks like it became a different model
because they kept making it until 2019.
Yeah.
The Toyota fans were different.
That's the Sienna.
The Sienna was after that.
Yeah, but this preview was, this is the Tirogo.
The Tirogo was the 90's.
This is a mid-engine thing that was just a preview van.
96, it stayed, but it became the Tirogo.
Which probably wasn't sold in the United States.
Yeah.
It was probably sold in the United States.
Exactly.
I would have to believe.
Yeah.
Are they still sell some weird, you know, different names
and things that...
If that engine was not completely immersed
in the oil soaked with antifreeze for a long time,
ran through the engine, I would try to flush it.
And I would check the flatness of the cylinder block
and the cylinder head.
And I would consider putting a head gasket in it
if that was something you wanted to keep running.
There was an old Toyota van running around
or here the other day, one of the pre-previya,
like 86, I think it was.
The one with the four.
They called it just a Toyota van.
Yeah, with the four square head lights.
That was a good looking van.
They called it a Toyota van, if I remember right?
I would say four.
They're in Toyota in our Hollander system.
Compared to a, like a 87 Astro and the 87 Toyota van
or the Ford Aero Star, I think that Toyota had a...
That van's front-end look.
And that's the look of their trucks at the time.
Yeah, and it had a squared-off, more modern look
at the time than other vehicles of that age.
Yeah, I'm looking at the Toyota van.
There were different models, you wanna know what they were?
Yeah.
The Toyota passenger van.
The Toyota van.
The Toyota cargo van.
That's some...
I mean, that's...
That's the one.
That's naming the style.
That is.
I like that.
Yeah, what are we gonna call the van?
Van.
Van.
It's like, hey, dog.
Right, right.
What's your cat's name?
Cat.
It's like...
My great uncle had a dog named your dog.
He had three of them over the time and every time one day
he got a new one and he'd call it your dog.
It's like, go get your dog.
My dog.
I don't have a dog.
No, your dog.
Eight, six, six, five, nine, four.
People like to have fun.
Oh, he was a riot.
Oh, that's awesome.
I do not remember you telling me that.
We're over on Lindsey Lane.
I drove through those.
I know I just don't remember it.
I don't absorb everything like a tape recorder like you.
There's another question from the chat.
Question starts out with...
Question.
I have a 2009 Sonata.
260,000 miles.
And the tires replaced a year ago and the front left tire
is bald, worse in the middle.
Tires are not overinflated.
I do hear squeaking when breaking and turning right.
Sounds like suspension.
No suspension worker alignment has ever been done on the car.
I've owned it since 2010.
I've put 30,000 miles on it.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I've owned it since 2010 with 30,000 miles.
So they've put 230,000 miles on it.
Should I rebuild the front suspension bushing?
Center.
He says the center of the tire went bald.
The center of the tire is worse, yeah.
The front left tire.
If the center tread on a tire is ever worn by itself,
not from the center all the way to one side or the other.
But if it's just the center, let's say the center two inches of the tire,
100% the only way you could ever do that
is if it was ever overinflated at some point.
There is no way, because it's flat, completely flat.
So if you take, you know, I'm holding the pen up here, it's flat.
It's rubbed on the table.
You're not going to wear off just the center.
It has to have more air in it to, you know, to do this at some point.
Now maybe it had air overinflated for a week
and this thing is so far out of a line.
It just peeled it off because now you're rubbing just on an inch or two,
not on the whole thing.
It'll wear three times as fast if you're on a third than all of it, right?
I think it's out of the line.
If it's doing what he's saying, the car is out of line,
it probably needs suspension parts.
Get those fixed first, but before you align it, get the tires on it.
Because if you align a car with tires that are worn out uneven,
even with the wrong air pressure, we always air them up before we align them.
The alignment won't be right.
So if you let ten pounds out of the right front tire,
you align the vehicle, then you air that tire up.
The car's not going to be lined up.
Got one tire that's worn down to two thirty seconds.
The other one's got eight.
You're like, I'll get new tires after I get the alignment.
I'm going to do that next week.
Nope, it's out of alignment when you put the new tires on.
I just put new tires on and got it aligned.
When did you do the alignment?
A couple of weeks before I put the tires on,
they told me I needed some.
They probably shouldn't have done your alignment with the bad tires on it.
No, that sounds like...
I don't like that because I feel like I'm doing something by getting the alignment.
So what I'm taking from it is just don't get the alignment.
We have people that...
Ever.
There are some people that are trying to save,
and especially around the Christmas season,
they really want to save,
but they've been calling me in the last couple of weeks saying,
I just want to put one tire on my vehicle.
And my first question is,
they're calling me for one tire.
Where have you been before?
Is this an all-wheel drive?
Yeah, it's a Subaru or it's this or that.
We can't do one tire.
Well, that's where everybody else told me.
So you're going down the line seeing if somebody's going to do it?
Is that just that someone didn't explain to him why?
Or did they not hear it?
No, they didn't want to hear it.
They didn't explain a good job to him.
Yeah, they just said,
nope, we don't do it and they hang up on him.
But I had somebody call me on something we yesterday.
They called me on something that we don't do
because they wanted to bring their own parts.
And I knew I could tell by their tone and their conversation
that they could have been greatly helped out
if I could have given them a little advice.
Even if they wanted to use their own parts
and found a shop to do it,
I need to do know about their car
and a little bit about what the problem was a little more
because of what they let on to say,
you should check this and this.
I'm going to give them free advice.
You're getting free advice from a mechanic
and not just on the radio.
This is on the phone in a shop that gets paid to do their job.
And they said,
I said, well, tell me more about your car.
Well, if you don't do it,
I don't need to tell you what kind of car I had.
I said, well, I think I can help save you a little bit.
But no, I don't want to know.
I'm not going to tell you what kind of car I have
because you don't fix it anyway.
So then they hung up and I went,
all right, good luck with that.
I heard that I can't remember where I heard it one day.
And then about two weeks later,
I think I heard you confirm it for me in a different way
that if you call somewhere and say you want this part
and they don't just say, yes, we'll give you that part.
They say, okay, what?
Here's, I can do that.
What are you trying to do that you should then?
That's a positive.
That's not them being right.
They're not trying to put you off.
They're trying to save your car and save you money.
I did have the out of all those calls though.
I did have somebody that said I have a problem with my transfer case
is doing weird things.
What do you think is wrong with it?
And I said, oh, it's definitely toast.
And they brought it into me.
They thought it was a differential that we had replaced
a couple years ago.
And I said, no, your transfer case is garbage
because your tires are mismatched.
And I said, oh, yeah, I had a blowout last year
and it was after you did the front differential.
And they just put on two new tires.
I said, I see that.
You've got brand new tires on the front and your back ones
are almost worn out.
I said, that's ruining your transfer case.
Oh, well, I had it done at this place,
a national chain thing.
And I said, they should buy you a transfer case.
I said, first, I said, did you carry the two tires in?
I said, I don't understand what you're saying.
I said, did you take them off?
Bring them in and say just put two new tires on these
and put them on.
I said, that's your problem, your fault.
I said, did you drive it?
Yeah, I drove in and they said, I had a blown tire.
So I needed to.
I said, did they suggest four because it could damage your four-wheel drive
which is an auto-four-wheel drive?
No, they just said, okay, we'll sell you.
We're just going to, we should sell you two.
Like, they just destroyed your car.
I mean, that's why most shops will say, no,
we will either do none or we'll do four.
We're not trying to just get extra money by doing all four.
We just won't do it at all.
We won't take any of your money.
And when we make the half 50% because we could damage your car.
And a lot of them, yes, have been held viable for that.
Because they don't educate.
How's the customer supposed to know unless you tell them?
And then explain to them why it happened.
I'd like to think that whoever that was just didn't realize
it was an all-wheel drive or something.
Because it is highly unusual for people not to get told that.
Especially for this place that has a big policy against
we won't do that and it got through.
But I thought this isn't right.
Somebody probably didn't run the van and see it was an all-wheel drive.
They just knew that they needed to match a pair of tires.
That's a Chevy pickup.
Yeah, that's sad.
I would think you would notice that.
But if you have tires that are just slightly off,
the weak part will burn it up.
All right, there's really no after show today.
We got stuff to do and we don't really, we plan to leave
because it's Christmas.
You typically dictate whether or not there's going
to be an after show or not based on your own.
No, that's not true at all.
I still make Oklahoma City that is not true at all.
Oh yeah, you're leaving.
It's him. It's his fault.
It's even.
But I'm going to get to Oklahoma City by minute.
I'm going to be doing.
I got my laptop hooked up now correctly.
So I'm going to be doing tickets and calling people
and they're going to be calling me.
And I'm trying to keep them burning the day.
Look out if you're on.
I'm going.
29.
What do you take to get down there?
35.
I've once you get out.
No, I'm going to take 29 to 81.
Take 81 South.
Okay.
Is that the.
You're going to do the same.
You grow when you get closer?
No, it's just faster.
Okay.
It's the fastest way is to go down to get on yanked.
It go down close to yanked and vermillion and hit 81
and go south all the way.
That can't be faster.
It is faster.
No way.
Yeah.
It's a little slower on some places.
But it's been.
They.
They took out all the towns and went through around.
Yeah.
So most of them.
There's a couple you go through.
Like.
Well, the next I think.
But as you go down, yeah, it's.
It's shorter.
And then you hit the Indian nation's turn pike.
I'm not going to Dallas.
I'm going along with you.
So you're.
Yeah, that's what you're driving right to East Texas.
Yeah, I'm going to hit.
I'm going to hit the Indian nation's turn pike
down at Oklahoma City at Hugo, Oklahoma.
And take that down to.
Texarkana.
McAllister and all those towns.
We sound like the biggest yokles on podcasting.
You there's no.
We our YouTube show right now just got as inside and specific.
Are we on here?
We're on.
We're yeah, we're still going down to Texarkana.
Yeah, I guess.
I thought I thought you cut off the after show.
No, I didn't get to it yet.
What's a what song?
Texarkana.
There's one that really just is tickling me.
Rosanna down in Texarkana.
That's not what it need to push her broom.
You know, that's something.
Uh-huh.
I don't think that's it though.
Because I don't know.
I wouldn't know that.
No, what's this?
It's a.
Yeah.
Well, help me.
Yeah.
There's going to pick up some cool beer in Texarkana in
Hollywood.
There you go.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
Smokey in the bandit.
Smokey in the bandit.
That's what it is.
That's embarrassing.
Oh, she knows that a hauled Cours beer east of Texarkana is.
Yeah.
That's embarrassing.
I might mind is a broken apparently.
All right.
There you go.
We're a much warmer than that.
That's where I'll ditch because we're in trouble now.
We're bootlegging.
It is so cold.
Thanks everybody.
Oh, the wind.
They had this morning in Wyoming just over the border from us.
144 mile an hour.
Wind gusts with no thunderstorms.
That's what we had in that straight, that nasty storm with the storm years ago.
No, no thunderstorms.
Yeah.
This is just a wind.
The vortex of the pressures of the world coming together to dump wind across.
We were pushing 70 mile an hour.
Gus and they came in.
I was sitting on the couch this morning and all of a sudden I hear nothing to.
Well, is there a blast?
I can hear the wind here.
They had 100 mile an hour gust in Rapid City, South Dakota.
Do you have?
And it's fallen to five degrees or whatever.
You should get yourself a wind gauge and anometer.
I have one.
Do you?
And you put it out in your wind tunnel here because where you set up the new building,
which is now like the wind tunnel.
I wonder what the wind is in the wind tunnel.
Get one out there because it was roaring when I hit it this morning.
Am I here?
Not out of place.
Mine's still on my head.
I saw a comment on the chat about your new haircut.
Did it look really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, because all of you.
But like right now.
Oh, it's what?
Complain.
I've got my wife.
I should have listened to my wife.
She's the only one I should listen to.
But when you when we get like it in our in the country here,
we get a 30 mile an hour wind.
And it's coming the right direction.
You have a spot between two buildings where the it picks up and it is the vortex.
Yeah, it is.
It goes to 120 right there.
I would like to get.
I'm going to maybe I'll get you a wind or a weather station.
Can I give you some advice Chris?
Yeah.
Go through the front door.
Yeah, no kidding.
Although now it'll blow me into my car quicker.
Go through the front door.
Yeah.
I didn't I didn't even think about it.
And it was even and it's cold too.
It's coming down so the wind show is quite a bit.
Yeah, we have to we went from 47 degrees to 70 mile.
Well, we're not 70 here.
I don't want to exaggerate.
We've had cues on the weather this morning.
Yeah, but it's a pretty steady 50.
Yes, that's exactly a steady 50.
A steady 50 mile an hour wind.
And it's coming out of the northwest.
So that where's that come from?
Canada.
So we dropped the temperature in a hurry.
But tomorrow already we're back into the 30s next week for Christmas into the 40s.
Yeah, and they've got a good steady straight wind coming up from the south at five to ten.
Yeah, so it's going to be in the high seven.
It's a crazy weather roller coaster we live in here.
What I would like to see your fuel purchases when we get like a week long stretch of wind.
What the difference is for your company and those trucks trucks.
I was very nervous about them going out this morning.
Oh, I told them that they determined on their own if they get out there and they're getting bucked around too much come back.
Even if you're parked 140 miles an hour will turn you over.
Oh, I know that from a fact if you have 65 mile an hour winds it'll turn over a trailer and you're pulling.
Yeah, I was just going to say.
I was going to say if you get real bad out there bring it back and Shannon will put it in his trailer.
But I think that if I would have had it okay we don't want to get into that.
A little weight in the trailer would have helped.
Sure.
Yeah, right.
I told them all they should put a galaureate of cores in the back of the way eight two thousand pounds.
They hold it on the road.
All right, there we go.
Merry Christmas everybody.
Merry Christmas.
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