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All right, folks. On this episode, Zach and I review the Mercedes CLE 53 Cabriolet as well as

the Infinite Machine P1 Scooter. We talk about the most epic cars and coffee crash of all time,

and we have some fabulous questions from our patrons, including how to help some of our

patrons break up with their girlfriends because they don't like cars. On this episode of the Smoking

Tire, let's go. Good morning. I have a feeling this coffee cup has a little less coffee in it

than I thought it did when I walked in here, and yep, we're down at about an inch and a half,

inch and a half at the bottom. Oh, I meant only an inch and a half left. They're down, sorry,

from the top. No, no, no, no, no, from the bottom. This is, this Porsche coffee cup,

which I love, matches my car, is both bigger and smaller than, like, it's, I think it's like

16 or 18 ounces, probably. Oh, wait, it's 15 ounces. But because of the design of the sip hole,

coffee really comes out of it very slowly. Oh, and so that 15 ounces is made to last. Like a,

like a 911 with an extended tank, that for that, that, you know, that 24 gallon just sips along

600 miles. It's a direct injected mouthpiece. Incredibly, well, I would say it's an efficient

coffee delivery. I'd say it's an efficient coffee enjoyment system because it can draw out the amount

of time that I'm enjoying my coffee without increasing the amount of coffee. Right. Yeah.

Get more mileage. Except, I'll tell you what, here's a design flaw in Porsche's design. Look,

when I put the lid back on, okay, it's got a flip top lid works really good. I could, I could, like,

throw this on the floor right now, nothing would spill out of it. There's a really nice,

like rubber seal that goes into the sip hole and keeps it nice. But watch my face when I sip.

Notice the contact of the rubber stopper with the tip of the nose. Now, in this cup of coffee,

I will put the equivalent of like one and a half sugar packets in that coffee. Just enough

to make the coffee just sweet enough to cut the bitterness, but also just enough

that this leaves a sticky residue on my nose as if I was, as if I was dunking my face in a bowl

of chocolate. That's also a terrible design for women or anyone who wears makeup all the time.

Like they would just, it would slowly take it off and a little oval. So, but in this case,

it, it's really good for like, if you're like hamfisted and like, if you close this,

like this is, this is airtight or liquid tight. Right. So you could be pretty clumsy with it

in that regard, but yeah. And also, it's shaped a little weird because it's designed specifically

to fit in 992 cup holders. I don't like the shape weird. I think it's shaped like, is it the normal

width of a can? Like a 12 ounce can? It's shaped like a fountain soda cup. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's

narrower at the bottom and then flares a bit at the top. It's not like the original Yeti size.

Like the original Yeti straight will not fit in a 992 cup. Yeah, I know I have one. It doesn't fit

in any of my cup holder. It's very stupid. This is specifically for that except there isn't a really

good one of these. They need to make a 718 one of these that fits in the pop out cup holders.

This, I'm glad the seal is good because it fucking flops all over.

Was that because the base isn't held tightly enough or there's just too much weight?

The base, it's both because it has that expandable jup, jup, jup thing for different sizes. Like

if you're rocking like a paper Starbucks cup, the tension will like hold that. But this,

it's not, it's too heavy. Yeah. And it doesn't quite grip it enough. So it just, it wobbles and

then gets loose and loose and loose and loose and it like works its way loose. That makes

sense. Especially if it's full, it's heavier at the top than the bottom. Yeah, right. So yeah.

But I can't find a proper timing and the fact that it fits the color of my car makes me want to use

it with the car. It's like a thing. But I have yet to find a tumbler of some kind that fits perfectly

in the 718 cup holder without working itself loose. I wonder if there's a shorter tumbler.

There's like, I have like a little one that's like, maybe like four or six ounces that's like that.

But it's like, it's so small. Like I have this because I want to bring more coffee with me because

I want to bring a tiny little bit of coffee with me. Right. I don't know. But maybe someone

knows if someone out there and our audience, NASA is getting fired, like gutted. So these

engineers need something to do. Who is Aston? NASA. Oh, NASA. Yeah. Come on, NASA. Speaking of

space, there is a fucking pilot who crashed in the jungle in like South America somewhere

in a in a in a smallish private plane, full of Yale. Okay. Like that. It was like literally like

American corporate looking white dude, fucking small plane flight that the photo they showed

of this motherfucker was the most documentary ready photos of him in like a Hawaiian shirt,

white pants. And again, the whitest looking corporate guy ever with like three chicks in

bikinis, you know, in like a hotel room in Miami. It was like, all right. And this guy crashed

whole bunch of Yale on the plane. He died. And you know, the plane has like no transponder,

extra fuel tanks. I mean, the guys obviously moving units, not just once. And the treasure

that's in the forest. Yeah. And they show the bricks that they have. The bricks are all labeled

SpaceX. Really? Yeah. They're wrapped in like when I first scrolled in the photo, photo, I was like,

I didn't recognize that those were the bricks. I was like, Oh shit, this guy's also working for

SpaceX. And they found his like whatever, you know, and I was like, wait, that's the bricks.

I wonder why they wrapped it in that. Like, is that going to get you past anybody? Or is that

just like one can only conclude that Elon Musk is running a fucking operation? I mean, that

feels like a large leap. But maybe I mean, listen, it's smaller than the fucking leaps his ass is

taking over on Twitter every day. That's true. That is this is more direct evidence that SpaceX

is involved in a drug running operation than he is using for white genocide. That's very true.

Yeah. Yeah. Because those photos are from like Nigeria or something. Yeah, no, yeah,

there's like not real. Yeah. Real but not of the thing that you're talking about or of the time

period you're talking about. Correct. Yes. Both fake. But anyway, it's just all kind of mean.

Anyway, the new hot fucking shit from South America is that SpaceX. That's pure. Hey,

you fucking lift off and then you explode midair. Right. Fantastic. It's a heavy lift.

I thought that was pretty funny. The branding of narcotics is quite funny. We've talked about

this before, but like Tesla or Mitsubishi or Mercedes or whatever. It's just we went through

pill reports. That was a fun show actually. And I got a lot of fun emails. Apparently,

I think we did miss an obvious brand. I think maybe it was Ferrari or something. I remember

the Mitsubishi's and the Mercedes. I think we found the Mercedes had the most pill reports.

Yeah. But Ferrari, the logo is very intricate. So it's probably harder to press in. The SpaceX

X would go right in there, but it seemed like it led itself to the XC. Or any of his other X's.

Yeah. Pick it. Pick an X. Of which he has many. Yet it's 11 children. How many marriage?

I think it's 13. I think we know of whatever.

Oh, but speaking of speaking of those things are actually how about speaking of fucking

not that at all. The funniest thing that happened, I thought over the weekend

was the ultimate, the ultimate game over cars and coffee crash will probably never be topped.

The helicopter crashing into cars and coffee, that one ups all Mustangs. And it was. It was,

in fact, the Mustang of helicopters. It was. Alley was right. It was a Bell helicopter,

which is the Mustang of helicopters. It was not a Sikorsky or Airbus. It was a Bell,

which is the Mustang of helicopters. But at the most, the most OC car show possible,

which is cars. We should say that no one died. No, no. That's why you're making fun of me,

because no one died. If people died, we'd probably not. But but so this apparently there was a

mechanical on the helicopter. It caused it to go into a spin. Well, the tail rotor, if you people,

if you haven't heard, there was a crash in Huntington Beach this weekend. Helicopter,

it was in the process of taking off, I think, and landing landing. There was they were landing.

It was literally a cars and helicopters cars and coffee, and they were landing the helicopters.

And you can see in the video, the one shot from the beach, the tail rotor is just flings away.

And then, of course, the thing to start spinning. Yeah. So the story said that before that crash,

the guy was doing some like low flying maneuvers, which isn't necessarily dangerous or illegal

or anything. But it looked like he was kind of like, you know, hot dog in a little bit,

like as one might do, because there is an audience of people there. That's why there's like 20 fucking

videos of this. And then, yeah, and then appears to lose a tail rotor somehow and crashes. But

and that's it's funny because it's a cars and coffee and it's a crash. That's why it's funny.

But it's funnier. The car show anyway, and they just left the crashed helicopter there

and had a car show right around it. Well, how do you extract a helicopter? This was a

for people listening, if you haven't seen it, this is a big helicopter, six, eight seats.

It is large. It wedged itself between a building and palm trees. Yeah. Probably 20 feet off the

ground. Like it's, I think, I think part of the helicopter is on the ground. And then the other

part of it's like sticking up in the air. Yeah, like 45 degree angle. Yeah. Yeah. You're not calling

triple A. You're not getting the whole thing out of there. They also didn't cancel the event.

They did not cancel the event. Right. And like, apparently it was huge.

The event? Isn't it the cars and copters event? It's humongous. It's huge. Yeah,

the overhead shots from drones is well attended. It would like, imagine.

So many Montana plates at that event, I bet. Oh my God. Helicopters too. It's the funniest thing

because it's like, it's this, it's this, this event where there is simultaneously like so much

white collar crime involved in that area. And also the event is like hugely sucking up to the cops.

It's like, it's like a, we love the police fucking blowjob rally. Well, it's a 1099 rally. Yeah.

And it's 11. Yeah. 1099 is a tax contract. But and it's also like the only place I've seen,

I watched a white cop ask the only like young black kid at this entire show to pop his hood.

And like, it was kind of, it was pretty fucked up. Like it happened right in front of me.

And I was like, oh, we are definitely in Huntington Beach right now.

And it was because the kid had like a fucking big turbo E30 or a 2J swapped E30 or something.

I'm pretty sure I told the story on the podcast a few years ago and it happened, but

yeah. So anyway, that's like, that's what you have there. But the fact that there's just

a crashed helicopter like in the corner of it, among all this other things, pretty fucking funny to

me. Wow. It was a very scary video. This thing has a big helicopter. Yeah. It was a huge like

executive level. It's like one of those like a jet copter, you know, it's like a fast one that

you would take from like New York City to the Hamptons or something. Oh, okay.

I'm not familiar with jet copters. Well, no, there's like, there's like little copters. Yeah.

The little fucking bubble around. And then there's the ones like Micah has, which are like a news

helicopter. Yeah. The ones that you see flying around to do traffic reports and shit. Oh, right.

Yes. And then the this is luxury transport. It's the limousine of helicopters. Yeah. Yeah. These

are like executive ball or shit up there. Well, there goes the tail rotor does fly off,

but it does start spinning before it go back. It starts spinning before the tail rotor flies off.

Like that would be the tail rotor is present there. It's there, but it stopped. So if you,

I don't know, it's hard to see from that angle, but you wonder if he clipped the tree with the tail

rotor coming in. Like, does that like it's out of frame there? It looks like he wouldn't tell

that looks like forced perspective. But yeah, I mean, there is, there is definitely something

very bad and starts to spin. There goes the tail rotor. It's been so quickly. Yeah. I mean,

this thing spins five times four times before it hits the ground. And it's not that's probably 100

feet off the ground when it starts going wrong. Maybe 120. It's just above palm tree height.

That would be so terrifying. All of a sudden you're like, why are we, why are we spinning? And you

have long enough to process that something very, very bad is about to happen. Yeah. But like,

it's kind of funny that it was in a cars and coffee, I have to say. I'm sorry. I can't,

I can't exit that part of my brain. Well, it's, I think, I think I hear what you're saying where,

you know, cars show is the worst place to have a car accident because you're there to show your

car and show everyone how cool you and your car are. Right. And then you do the most embarrassing

thing in front of the biggest audience. Right. Exactly. And so this is, this is, we're all here

to show off our helicopters and our Koenigseggs and someone crashes. I mean, this appears to maybe

not be because the person was showing off. I don't want to like throw that kind of, it's not,

it's not like the guy like trying to do a fucking bank turn and hit a car. But even if you drive

at two miles an hour into a car show in park, like you are still showing your vehicle. It's a car

show and you are showing it off. And they are still showing off the helicopter. You can go look

at it. It's going to be a monument. It's quite a sight now. Yeah. It's big, man. Yeah. So scary.

See, this is the argument against, I've been in helicopters twice, they're amazing and scary.

And we talked about this before. We're like, if something goes wrong, you auto rotate. And yes,

that's true if one thing goes wrong. But if this thing goes wrong, you rotate.

You also automatically rotate, but it's the more conventional use of the term and not

a helicopter. The tail rotor is preventing the helicopter from doing that all the time.

Yeah. Yeah, that's mad. They fucking, yeah, they are cool. Man, do they scare me?

Yeah, because of, you know, and then maybe it's like the EV car fire thing where there's not

that many accidents, but they get a lot of attention, especially with social media.

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tire50off and now back to the show. Plains like we know like there's so many planes flying all

the time right the number of planes we see and interact with is and the number of the amount

of times that they are flying globally is so much higher than helicopters right and and it seems like

the and also like if you have a failure in an aircraft it seems like there's more redundancy

and like worst case you know you can you glide like to somewhere right still scary but you know

the the but the that fear the falling out of the sky the just falling out of the sky

which doesn't happen in aircraft even if you lose all your engines you can glide in planes you know

you might crash but like you're gliding there you're not fucking falling out of the sky right right

you have a you got a shot at it yeah helicopter it's got to feel like you know if you're flying in

your wings suddenly fell off yeah so I looked up in recent years the number of helicopter crashes

has averaged in the US has averaged around 80 to 120 per year only 11 fatal of those in 2024

majority survivable worldwide there are thousands of fatalities annually exact

global figures may vary now I have to look up private plane crashes per year so it's probably

it's it's probably more plane crashes because there are a lot more planes yeah you need the

percentage yeah there's definitely a thousand accidents uh annually on average that's more

yeah yeah there's more yeah but I bet you that's it's more but it's it's I bet it's proportional

to the number of aircraft flying someone let us know in the comments because

I'm sure someone out there's a pilot and they know yeah an aviation statistician that could be

do you uh do you want to talk about that scooter let's talk about the scooter all right

scooter life let's get into scooter life scooter life dude I've been riding my scooter too I'm

excited let's stand up one I need to try this thing yeah yeah it's fucking nuts I have a helmet

I keep here now and I'm gonna fucking wear it yeah you should 50 miles an hour on a stand-up scooter

um all right this is a different scooter this is a different scooter so this was loaned to me for a

week a few weeks ago this is called the infinite machine p1 and yes it looks a lot like the

Cybertruck or inspired by because the one of the people who designed this scooter

worked on the Cybertruck team now they brought us a prototype a year ago it had some issues

they took it back but now I got to ride the early production version so they are for sale

and they are delivery starting in California soon they're already some out on the east coast

all right so what is this thing it's got a six kilowatt motor range is 60 miles top speed is

65 miles per hour which is pretty fast did you experience either of those things either 65 miles

an hour or 60 miles of range no I did not ride it that much due to it's called a registration

situation um so I did not test the range and I also did not top it out I think I went 40 something

miles per hour on it and that was fine okay so I can't you're right I can't attest that it can

achieve either of these things so that is a good point um the pros of this I will say that it rode

very well the suspension setup was good the damping is good it had a refined ride um I it had it has

carplay that worked excellent you can use your phone as a key that worked very well totally seamless

and I actually actually the key fell out of my pocket at one point and so they had to add my phone

as a key and it worked you approach it you can unlock it you can turn it on all that stuff um

it's got a little storage under the seat which locks and you can unlock with the button um

you can take the battery out so they're pitching that as if you live in New York where I guess

scooter theft is common you can at least take the battery out and it's people are less inclined to

steal it it also locks itself so it won't just roll in neutral do you then charge the battery

on a dock in your apartment well that's the other thing if you live in New York people like they're

not going to run a cable out to it so they can bring the yeah good point you can bring the battery

inside charge it inside okay so there's kind of I guess two reasons to do that um battery is heavy

of course because it's a fucking battery but it comes out pretty easily is it like like a car battery

no no I mean it's a lithium ion no I know I can't think about a weight picture the size and weight

of this battery like a thick vhs tape or for anyone who's listening who's not as old as we are um

like a really big book but it probably weighs okay well that's not that probably like 20 pounds

all right all right that's actually smaller than I was thinking yeah it just it's under the

it's in the floor like right where your feet land um so that's where that sits uh it's got reverse

which is cool it's a little button you press and it like it does you know you just tap it and it just

nudges you backwards and at first I thought oh that's silly shouldn't you just twist the handle or

I can't modulate this but actually it's all you need it's just like tap tap it rolls you backwards

yeah you'd only ever use it if you had to park it like kind of on a little down if for some reason

you had to back it up like up a hill the only reason you would use that and that's like yeah

that's like the only annoying thing about scooters sometimes yeah it so I didn't and at the time I

think I was riding my back was extra messed up so I didn't really want to shove something backwards

and all that um let's see so two negatives start with the the lighter one first the glove box which

resides just under the handlebars is terrible and just flops open wouldn't close the little click

thing doesn't it has like two tabs on the each side and then the lock thing in the middle and

after two days like it would just flex open also someone could break into it with like a toothpick

it's very flimsy um and the other negative is the price because it's ten thousand dollars

and the reason this is important and we've talked about this a lot with electric stuff so I looked

up the competition a vespa electrica or electrica is eight grand and costs variable top speed 45

miles per hour yeah that problem with the vet the vespa is there's they're really slow it's the

equivalent of the 50 cc where this is the equivalent of the vespa 150 cc so not exactly the same but

cheaper but I think my point is that no my point was that EV scooters of all kinds are expensive

you know I mean the vest was cheaper it's not as good or as powerful but you know that's eight

thousand dollars and you get 60 miles of range and you can go 65 miles per hour whereas your

vespa what was your vespa new if you bought it new so the problem is the vespa the vespa like

is so good that it eliminates any other competition in fucking two seconds because like these like

these like EV luxury like scooter things are cool they're stylish they're interesting and yes

like they are nice to ride for the most part but motorcycles are so fucking fuel efficient

and they're so practical and the vespa in particular is so good at its job with a cargo

box behind and the cargo box below especially mine now mine was like 8900 new but it's a 300 and

goes 80 miles an hour and you can ride on the highway it has all different shit I bought it used

for 5200 five years ago and I just looked a couple weeks ago of curiosity I could sell it at a profit

wow like ease like on day one I could put that fucking thing on facebook marketplace everything

expensive it's gone in day one at a profit and I could have 5000 miles for free it's gotten me

60 miles a gallon the whole the whole time and it and it's caught it's like it's cost nothing

it's not there's no headaches about it I've said it over and over it's the best consumer product

I've ever bought yeah I think these things it's what you said it's a luxury product and this

I really enjoyed riding on electric power it's the same thing as a car it's very relaxing you

just kind of hear the tires you're just a little more connected to the environment I mean motorcycles

do that too but you remove the sound especially if the motorcycle I'm riding doesn't have a cool

sound then it's like I don't really care oh yeah I don't give a shit about the sound of

if vespa made an electric equivalent of what I had I have I'd probably get it just because I enjoy

the electric I can afford it I charge at home like whatever but the reason I asked about the range

I'm sure that with the right conditions this thing will do 60 miles an hour

in every electric two-wheeled vehicle I've ever ridden my real world range has been about half

of what the manufacturer claims oh and if you and if you're going 60 miles per hour you're not

and they they said this you're definitely not getting 60 miles of range like you have to be going

slow slow urban like when I rode that um that can am pulse which is an electric motorcycle but

really was like a scooter plus it at when I rode it to Malibu and back for breakfast

I got 44 miles of riding and I had 20 left but I was essentially holding 30 to 35 miles an hour

the whole way because it was very restrictive up pch and all that and I then I tried to ride it like

on the freeway and after 10 miles I'd gone through like 30 miles of range I was like oh god

so like the the faster at highway speeds these EV scooters are terrible really terrible yeah

but in the city they're great but in the city the gas ones are easy too it's like it's a hard sell

this is definitely for someone who has a good chunk of money it's for a very specific user in my

opinion like I don't know how broad they need the market appeal to be and this is true of you know

of infamachine and also vespa I mean any of these things it's it feels like a luxury thing that

someone just goes oh this is fun and I have any v at home so I can charge it next to it

and that's just a cool thing to bop around on and to give them credit like the tech the tech bro

perspective which is based in in truth scooters and motorcycles which have essentially no emissions

controls are disproportionately dirty they may be fuel efficient but their emissions are disproportionately

bad so like my vespa probably produces the same emissions as like a 9-11 you know because it doesn't

have a cat or anything like that and so if you're a tech person you go well let's let's work on the

dirtiest stuff first let's get rid of lawn mowers and leaf blowers and scooters and motorcycles

because because they're disproportionately dirty and I've heard that thinking a few times

I just don't think consumers are willing to pay the kind of markup that they demand

along with put up with the level of inconvenience that they require at this point I think they'd

be better off fucking catalyzing motorcycles like how easy would it be to just fucking invent

emissions controls for motorcycles compared to making everybody do this shit I think it's the

question of no one's making anybody do our electric scooters more popular in either different

regions of the US or Europe or something like obviously there's far more scooters per capita

in Europe in different countries small cities every et cetera things streets are narrow do people

like them there you can just bring the battery in and it keeps the sound down which is kind of cool

instead of in to your point you know if you're in Italy like you smell two strokes and dirty

four-stroke engine exhaust all over the place so this could be cool for that getting rid of two

strokes would probably be I mean those are like yeah I mean yeah two strokes are nasty I forget

which magazine it was but like a two-stroke leaf blower is worse you know for an hour is worse

like a raptor yeah or a day or something like that it was pretty wild yeah no lawn equipment is

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code tire and now back to the show but i want i'd love to see um and it may be hard to to to come

up with a financial model to make something this makes sense we'll have to ask ali about it about

imagine he had his his his range trailer not the big semi one but the one he built to tow his BMW

that could run lawn equipment fucking all day long sure you know if you just if you had you

know swappable batteries or whatever and you know you could charge the lawn mowers while going but

driving between you know place to place like i wonder what the economics are of selling an

electrified gardening setup if you sold the trailer with like four mowers and a bunch of

leaf blowers and a bunch of fucking weed whackers all of which could be just charged off the trailer

yeah it's a good question i don't know if we if we someone has a landscaping company out there like

seriously in the comments are you seeing are you are you able to just buy a leaf blower with three

extra battery packs and that costs x would be better to charge them between you know jobs

which would cost why i mean that would be very interesting yeah my guess is

landscapers don't make a lot of money and so they're just going for whatever the cheapest

thing is i think i think people that own the landscaping business you do quite well if you

have a bunch of teams out there all making money at once yeah but um i wonder how many battery packs

like if you have those electric blowers like how many of those batteries do you go through in a day

for five houses yeah you're good to know we use we use the electric like the heavy duty

ryobies to dry cars yep and i mean not the same as the house but one battery is pretty much all day

yeah they use those in my apartment to blow leaves and stuff yeah um and i have you know i have one

at home too it's like for home shoes they're from awesome although my mind has a weird we've had my

my little leaf blower for like i don't know a while and i think it needs to be replaced now

because uh it it it won't it can't turn off if you put the battery in the battery pack

it goes hmm it maintains a slow idle but that's still blowing and then it it you know it works

fine but to to to make it like stop blowing all air you have to take the battery out has it always

been that way or no it's started doing that like six months ago it's becoming aware sentient it's like

it's just got like a mellow idle i think i imagine like something in the trigger isn't

like fully releasing or whatever and we've tried to like take it apart but like dude this thing is

like 80 bucks we've had it for a long long time it's probably just dying but for now i'm okay

just taking the battery out you know who loves those inventions is f1 teams because like when the

cars pull in or they're on the on the grid or whatever they just they have all these purpose

built things that shove into the intakes and it keeps flowing air and into the brakes and stuff

yeah yeah so the brakes don't catch on fire when they come to stop what did they do before just fans

just like yeah or i mean uh yes i and maybe the engines didn't require the same type of

cooling or maybe they they just accepted the loss of efficiency of a heat soaked car for a lap or

something yeah maybe the tech maybe the air blowing tech allowed them to change the brakes or

engine design because they went oh we can cool this yeah pretty cool yeah yeah like if you if you

can do do a little extra juice during a pit stop maybe you can make it one percent lighter or something

you know uh before we okay so so that's that it's it's i think it looks weird but it's it's you the

review of this is the same as the review of every fucking electric scooter they're just too expensive

for what you're getting yeah um and i don't even know like there's got to be a very small number

of people that are looking to make a fashion statement with something like that too like

it's not that fashionable it well i i agree with you but i think look at the number of people that

thought that think the cybertruck looks good and you know for everyone who likes a vespa

there's probably someone who thinks the vespa is to whatever and they go oh this i got lots of

thumbs up it got lots of stare exactly you know you're in feminine whatever very manly man can't

believe that someone like me would ride a vespa the manly man would know yeah i mean that's there's

scooter design motorcycle design it you know it comes in all colors and in forms so i can see

an italian man in a scarf is banging their wife on their fucking girl's trip so

he rolled up on a vest and he rolled up on a vespa and he fucking rolled out so

his confidence is more important yeah yeah no listen it's the the green vespa it's exactly

like the pink Porsche if you're gonna fucking get a fun thing get get the one that girls like

that's just that's just a pro tip from someone who's been there and bought a lot of shit trust me

no i think women like your portion more than like the black Mustang bro where yeah i literally had

a supermodel what you in the pink that's you i need to know about that that's that's you don't

need more data than that that's the that's enough thank you very much i'm retiring

i met uh i met a guy who had some really cool pink cars um he was showing me at uh at willow

the other day um that was a really fun event i really enjoyed all talking to all the people that

we were there uh can i review the Mercedes c le 53 convertible real quick there's uh photos of it

on uh on the gram right there i got oh you drove it too you drove it because we used it for uh for

a thing for that yep day i have to say it's not that i like this isn't my type of car

uh it's a an AMG 53 so it's not the biggest engine it's like the middle one um although

for the time being it is the biggest one you can get in this car by displacement until the new v8

finally comes out but the inline six um with a mild hybrid and turbos and it's all wheel drive it's

a two plus two cabriolet and normally this would not be my type of car i fucking loved this car

i thought this car was so good at so many things it was like eights across the board um

it's it's uh the engine in line six uh with a 48 volt mild hybrid incredibly smooth

and with that mild hybrid system i didn't even bother turning off the start stop just left it on

was fine uh the seats are the same as the AMG GTs very adjustable um you know good lumbar and

and nice shape but not too too sporty uh top goes up and down and it's not the fastest it's maybe

like 14 seconds but you can do it at up to 30 miles an hour um the uh the dashboard the interior

that's all like the same as mercedes it's the it's the same as that cell same as the rest of it but

i did like the tuck this one had the tuxedo wood wood pinstriping you know that wood it's that's

lovely yeah looks nice uh i like the wheels it's got pss five tires um i happen to think it's a

very good looking car i got so many compliments so many compliments driving this around i could not

believe how many people notice this car especially because it was gray it's not like a a pop color

it's a good looking car uh but man did did my neighbors and everybody wherever i went with

this car people really liked it um but the most impressive thing to me about this by a lot is the

shock tuning um it's really nice to drive on the street handles the 405 really well the everyday

comfort setting is not too wallowy and sloppy but up in the canyons i took a me and ali ran over

payuma which is bumpy right now and with the shocks in sport and everything else in sport plus

the body control was amazing and ali was a racing engineer like he's built shocks he

rebuilds the shocks in his own car he was like dude what who tuned this like it was so good

it had such a nice balance of and and i don't know about on track but like on a regular windy

somewhat bumpy canyon road this thing was sticky pointy plenty of grip didn't beat you up like

for a regular person this is a great sports coupe like if you're used to gt3's it's not like crazy

or anything but like very very very well rounded um i'd rather drive this than an m3 uh it was

definitely more comfortable i'd rather i'd rather actually have this as my car than an m3 or m4 for

sure yeah those are really stiff i think i think when you get into really sporty driving those will

uh beat this thing you know both on track or something but around town i this thing drove

really really nice size or having a nice go up the mountain like it's dude it's 449 horsepower i

think uh 443 horsepower um and 413 torque but it does have a a torque over boost function so you

can get an extra 30 for short bursts but also the big thing is that as we've talked about

the little forebanger that they put in some of their cars like the amg cars is so buzzy so loud

feels does not feel luxurious does not feel expensive it feels like your kid stole your engine

and replaced it with the engine from his turbo like swapped you know civic yeah it's like an evo

motor it's an evo motor and it's yeah this in line six super smooth of course and this just suits

the car and the mission of the car and the mission of a lot of the brand's models i think way way

better yeah i mean amg is about really good powerful luxurious engines and this actually

does it does get there like it's not the fastest thing i've ever driven but that's a great engine

great powertrain um and and i and i was really really impressed uh with how much i liked driving

it in the corners driving in the highway uh it's nice with the top down although if it's cold out

and you try to drive with the top down even with the air scarf

where my between my left hand and my left knee is a they get sucked a pocket of a low

low pressure air it's a low pressure zone yeah um but very few gripes with this car i don't

you know i still don't love the touchscreen the big touchscreen but it's the same as all

Mercedes now i can't like this car it's not any better or worse than the other ones when it comes

the touchscreen people asked if the top down if that made the screen less readable there's a thing

to tilt the angle of it a few degrees either way if it's problematic i didn't find that to be a problem

i don't love that system but um everything else about this car i really did like the top buttons

are real buttons to operate the top they don't have the touchscreen like the sl they got rid of

thank god yeah but uh and the trunk is it's not that it's small it's that it's kind of weird

shaped very uh because of where the top has to go so you have a sort of full height portion at the

back but then a half height portion that goes forward from there so i don't know you'd have to

it's a mouth with teeth yeah that's what it is and it's open but you got to like you know

you gotta slide the medicine in there like you know yeah i didn't i didn't try to get suitcases in

there um and but the camera case did fit in there um so i mean it looks like it'll probably hold two

carry-ons yeah or you know something like that yeah uh but in general this was a hundred grand um but

i and which is oh it's not nothing it's a lot of money but i have to say i think it i think the

quality of the car justifies the price i really do this one's loaded with options you could get

something very similar with without two-tone interior and color match top you could you could

uncheck some aesthetic boxes on this and probably save 10 grand um but i really do think it justifies

the price it's it's in my opinion nicer to drive than the s l which costs a lot more um and it's

a couple people who saw it and i said yeah it's a hundred it was a hundred and one thousand dollars

out the door and they thought that was low they said oh i thought you were gonna say 150

so it also makes more power so i just looked up um bmw's competitor competitor m440 i convertible

comes with 386 horsepower starts at 74 grand if you add much options you'll probably hit 100

we should we could get one of those to compare it well this makes a lot more power than that

yeah no it does seven but 60 more horsepower yeah a lot more yeah this is a really really nice car

do not sleep on the 53s uh they're they're nice but this this c le 53 it replaces the c class

convertible and the e-class convertible it's now like one which is probably for the best um but damn

i'm gonna i i it went back yesterday and uh if not for the rain this week i'd say i would really

miss it because it was fucking nice nice surprise yeah really nice surprise really nice surprise from

there uh from that should we go to the people yeah we got uh some patreons who have some things to

say the uh patreon is open at patreon.com slash the smoking tire podcast written out

you can get more show you can get early show you can get uh shows without ads you can get

access to special uh merch collabs for instance the black mother of pearl notice did not make it

out of the patreon in fact i don't think the i don't think the mint one did either the first

one only went to patrons i think um and i am uh we're officially working on the new watch

we have we have two we have two ideas i've been talking to west at notice we have two ideas one

is the all new watch which i have delivered my requirements for the first draft and we'll see

what the first ones look like and then we'll tweak and tweak and then we'll have a we'll

have an all new watch which is going to be really fun something i'm really excited about doing and

i pulled out one of the prototype canyons to show to ali one of the colors we didn't make

and he was like you're not going to make this and he was like offended that i wasn't going to make it

and he was like i personally know like three or four people that would buy them that would buy

this right now if wow and so i was like i went back to west and i was like ah maybe we revisit

maybe we do a one one more color um so we're kids we're we're noodling it and we'll see if if we

if we can maybe get it done but but either way patrons always get first crack at at my watch designs

so uh let's go to them i still can't i got to find out zack what the right pair of glasses is

for reading the monitor well this is pretty far away it's pretty far so your readers can you make

it bigger can you make this 125 percent and maybe yeah all right 125 no glasses yeah is the science

on that runo nag naga naga not gonna be a patron here anymore is it uh sorry runo

nagamra nagamra uh oh just wanted to say hi new patron shout oh there's a question here we go

okay when i was 16 and thought my 91 accord five speed was a badass tuner car it was it was and

still is i spent a lot of time perusing the goods they saw a sucker and almost convinced me to spend

100 bucks as a earned as a subway sandwich artist shout out to him on a gretti exhaust sticker to

plaster across my hood because it was cool even though i had nothing gretti on the car uh do you

all remember a time way back when before you knew any better that you were uh were or narrowly avoided

being scammed in the context of cars so okay here's the thing i don't know that i was ever scammed

but i definitely spent money on things that were going on my car that the person selling them to me

probably rolled their eyes and went okay kid whatever and it was garbage and like

they didn't say hey like you're gonna look like a loser if you you scammed yourself that's what you

did yeah i didn't like need someone to scam me you know i were like hey matt let's put a tea handle

in the Subaru and your other matt was like that's a good idea totally yeah and i literally bought

my exhaust for that Subaru at like auto zone and it was not an exhaust for a Subaru it was like a

generic muffler with tips yeah like yeah like i was dumb enough to do that to myself but also

that does work you know if it looks right i mean it's you know it didn't like not work

actually i mean it like it fit and it you know and it did sound like all right it wasn't like

horrible but i but it was definitely like i don't know like a magna flow you know muffler that was

just generic yeah i didn't did you ever get scammed i don't think i ever got scammed into

anything i bought dice from my car because i had a 65 Pontiac and i thought i was 85 years old

right i think that's the that's the closest i came yeah uh good question though welcome to the

welcome to the program here mr nailhead says oh a name idea for a new youtube channel uh

stp plus a smoking tire porches i mean i feel clunky hey huh i think it feels clunky it does

feel a little clunky i like where your head is at i mean there's probably an argument

that we could just do all porches on one channel and everything else on another channel

there's probably a math argument i think it would be if anything would be tstp plus yeah

which is also clunky but you know we have we've had so much wait no how about tstp ts

oh i see it's a palindrome dude paint example tstp ts see when you want to fucking name something

you come to farah well this is uh the spaghetti throwing at the wall thing he he he he posted

the idea true he loved he loved yeah thank you for the alley you mr nailhead good looking out

am 87 i'm in what the where where is that i don't know where that is oh oh wait is that

mexico city see you dot mexico oh maybe i'm in cdmx right now i think that's see you dot mexico

i think right okay okay cool sorry i didn't i now i can call it that cool okay and as hip

and wealthy as parts of the city are it is absolutely terrible for sports car driving no

shit dude mexico sucks for sports cars that's why they run baha there not lemaw their potholes

are rivaled only by our own dude i love mexico but it's fucked up to drive down there i had a

rental car i left the airport and i was like why are there so many holes in the tarmac yeah uh is

part of the reason for the super suv uh from the performance marks to introduce their brands to

these markets where the driving environment is less than stellar i mean like it's not even that it's

fucking in in places that aren't mexico our infrastructure is crumbling and people

i want to drive a lamborghini but not drive a lamborghini you know what i'm saying like

i want to drive a lamborghini but i don't want to drive some low loud scraping thing i just

wanted to like you know be a lamborghini but also be like a regular ass car yeah like that's how

people think but i think this is definitely a bonus selling point if you're in an area like we went to

panama yeah a lot of tarmac a lot of roads around were just dirt and they went to houses and stuff

so you can then drive your lamborghini anywhere in the country or area you reside but also if

you're older getting into a sports car kind of sucks like there's so many benefits we'll say

and so many reasons that it was easy to sell high performance crossovers to you know slightly aging

market yeah i mean once once portia opened the door to a very fast suv nb mw and mercedes

a little bit behind the amg uh the the mercedes may have been the ml 55 may have been slightly

earlier than the cayenne turbo but the cayenne turbo had like a hundred more horsepower and went

way faster once they realized that you could do an suv that was stupidly fast and deep in the six

figures all of those brands especially the volkswagen ag brands were like wait a minute

we could platform this bitch up to a bentley and then bmw was like wait a minute we could go up to

a roll you know like dude once that the floodgates were open on that shit because now it's like

now it's not the weekend car anymore now i could sell these people their regular car for 400 grand

and it's really a fucking q8 under there you know as nice as the iris drives like let's

fucking call a spade a spade uh baymobile my grandfather had a dream of owning a 911

my father got to full got the chance to fulfill his promise after he passed

now if you really i fulfilled his promise by committing a fraud by registering the car in

my dead father's name no um i never mind i know i know yeah i'm not gonna not gonna he got that

dream after he died from somebody else somebody else has his dream really can i just say for the

record if i die with unfulfilled dreams don't fulfill them fulfill your own dreams instead

you know what i mean oh it's like bragging you know you're i won't know i'm gone i'm gone if you

do know because of afterlife whatever you're going well i want to do that yeah i'm fucking going

yeah i'll be gone uh my hope is to achieve the same goal of getting a manual transmission

naturally aspirated flat six masterpiece brand new from portia how wide is my window on this

goal or can i rest easy knowing i'll always have this an option you're asking how long will they

be selling naturally aspirated manual transmission flat sixes the the future question

and this is a very specific future question extremely specific by the way grandfather had

a dream of owning a Porsche 911 but in order for you to fulfill this dream it must be a brand new

naturally aspirated manual transmission car you're not making it easier on yourself buddy right

there are plenty of them for sale right now yeah you could yeah okay so i mean the story be damned

here Porsche is making at least through the next it's gotta be 10 years manual transmission

gt-3s and probably probably some kind of Cayman variant probably you know uh because they'd be

stupid not to because they're you know they're they're ditching the they say they're ditching

the regular 718 gas powertrains but the gt cars are going to be gas that's what they're saying so

like your options are really going to be like two cars gt-3 gt-4 like those are that's it so

but like come on does it have to be new there's so much fun to be had with a used one i know some

of the cars in some ways are better than the new ones they're smaller they're easy you know lighter

there's a lot of fun to be had yeah at many many price points yeah no but your your your

window is not infinite but if you have enough money to go for a gt-3 you got probably 10 years at least

but also you could attain your dream sooner if you buy a used one yes you could also just do this

i don't i don't know how much money you have but like you could also just do this now well brand

new gt-3 is two to three hundred grand right and a used one of some age is like 150 maybe maybe less

if you get a high mileage one like you can take yeah but depending how much money this person has

like you could take years off of your dream well they don't have doesn't have to be a gt-3 there's

there's a million naturally aspirated Carrero variants that are lovely like i just uh

i think they should broaden their horizon yeah i don't i don't think you should put that restriction

on yourself i mean it's your dream have it but like come on you know like i the

perfection is the enemy of good right that's what that's that's what it that's what it is

life's too fucking short to deal to to have that being said so much david in chat said

this is perfect bro is peeking through only two bars of a bird cage right now

oh that's so funny right spot on don't do drugs m113 case as uh despite the growing trend court

toward crossovers the bmw m3 continues to be very popular is huh nothing yes it does oh yeah

is there a market for smaller a smaller Porsche sedan to compete with the m3 i don't think Porsche

is moving down they've talked to them when is there going to be a Porsche hatchback when is

there going to be a bit Porsche is not going down market they don't have to i think the most profitable

car company on earth right now yeah for a long time the base mcconn is the down market like

panameras aren't doing very well like they're not selling a ton of panameras um i don't know

how the sales are of tycon compared to mcconn electric now my bet would be they're selling

more mccons than they are tycons um but like i just and going back to the platforms thing i think

could be hard they'd probably have to use the mccon yeah they would but squish it drop it somehow

and then you'd have a lowered mccon but it would look i think more awkward than an m3 yeah it's

meant to be a crossover not a car yeah so i think you'd run into a bunch of issues and for the

record i'd much rather daily drive a nice mccon than an m3 sure but if i if i want what a mccon

or sorry what an m3 is and then you just lower a mccon i'm still gonna want the m3 right

lowered mccons look pretty good i wouldn't want to drive one like that but they do look cool

thunder kogan falcon bird registered trademark i don't know what that is but it's awesome

thinking about trying to get into a right hand drive car but i also want something weird not

just a typical jdm skyline or something were there any right hand drive european cars that

could be fun i mean yeah tons of them like england that's a that's a real thing get a tv r

sure that's weird yeah apps tv r is a great one uh or you know a right hand drive lotus

or get the good lotus carlton yes you know or escort cosworth cosworth you know uh that is the

skyline of europe in a way yeah there's a bunch of right hand drive um e30 tourings out there

they're a lot cheaper than the left hand drive ones yeah i think vin bought one in europe like three

grand yeah pretty cheap if you should then ship it over yeah there's a but i mean there's also weird

there's also a bunch of non typical japanese cars get a nissan pulsar gt ir or yes toyota starlet

i just saw hannah was like baby this suzuki cappuccino on facebook marketplace i want to buy it

and i was like nah and and she was like nah i i was like you don't even want to drive fucking

stick like you can't have you can't have a stick car if you're not going to drive it like you can

buy any car you want as long as you actually want to drive it and you're not going to drive that and

i don't fit in it so what are we doing here and then she showed me a picture of it this is the nicest

modded suzuki cappuccino i've ever seen it looked like a mini z8 alpina with like alpina style it was

fucking sick i was like for like 13 grand i was almost like i'm in but i can't fit in them fucking

things well maybe she learned to drive stick but like that i like it huh she would learn to drive

stick come to like it she has she has dreams look she just got rich she can fucking buy she doesn't

need to ask me she could buy this figure by anything she wants she can fucking go buy a house if she

wants now i don't it doesn't makes no difference but like i mean it does make a difference but like

if she wants a fucking car she does not need my permission to get anything but i've i i've regularly

remind her of having cars that you don't plan to use all the time like that's that's there that's a

fucking curse to just amass cars you're not driving so i was like you fucking buy whatever you want but

you have to use it and i'm not convinced that you are are ready for a stick shift car

she's like not demonstrated that she actually wants to drive stick anywhere you know it's a

you know it would be a legit good car to practice on is the nsx that is the easiest car to drive

it would yeah they're they're super easy yeah she it's she just like doesn't like it yeah like she

can do it but the cappuccino is cool looking she's driven she's driven multiple stick cars with me in

the car and like a little jerky but fine but to get out of that it's like force yourself to do it

for a week to get to the next phase and she won't do it without me in the car so like you know you

got to practice practice practice moose test wagon 87 oh sorry wait we already talked about the next

call it's going to be more watches bad gardener says uh what car you've driven this year did you

actually hit the highest speed in

uh i mean on a racetrack of course that's what we're talking about

uh that's an interesting question hit 104 in the ranch here but it sounded like 300

notes uh you know i haven't i haven't had all that much room to really really really go well okay

mclaren 750 s coda hit the brakes at 175 on the back straight that's very fast that's fast yeah

yeah yeah and that's uh roughly within a mile an hour or two of what jack from savage geese was

posting about zr1 at the same track and he's a good driver yeah yeah he's fast so and that's a

straightaway coming out of a hairpin so even incremental differences in driver are not going

to make a huge difference it's not like it's not like you know fucking balls to the wall over blind

crest fourth gear like who's going to exit that faster it's like a you know that's a 20 mile an hour

hairpin onto an enormous straightaway that's cars and horsepower i think they're about the same

but we didn't have enough room with zr1 i don't think i went 175 i think it must have been the

fastest that's very fast right yeah i mean previously on racetracks like you went 180 i think at uh

cal speed well i did 184 right but that was a huge like nas car so yeah a lot of room

probably 150 in the gtd at chuck walla or i don't know what the fuck number i saw in the gt3

maybe that was faster but probably maybe probably not less power uh and i had the

no that was the same mclaren i didn't have another mclaren when when pick when calculating how fast

you you've gone this year you usually start with mclaren and work your way down

they're very very very fast but like the zinger and the zr1 are both insanely fast but we didn't

we drove i drove did not have room right to go that fast either on the road or on um yeah uh

domesticated jaguar xgs will you have ammo's new spit wax spit spray wax in stock at w ccs yes larry

is like so excited spit is probably his most important product it's basically spray wax aka

quick detailer but it's his all his formulations are proprietary but like he's so excited about his

new spit so yes we're gonna have new spit we don't have it yet um but we will have it at w ccs i for

those who don't know w ccs my shops here in la both of them are the only two places in america

where you can physically buy ammo products in a store other than that you have to get them from

larry's website so if you're in la and you like ammo products you can just walk into either of our

stores uh during business hours and just fucking buy it we have every product they make except for

like the compressors like uh but you don't have any we will have new spit as soon as he sends it

probably weeks you know but i'm excited regular spit is the best i fucking love it

6.4 liter hemeroids like that one that's very good uh what would happen if stilantis a nissan reno

or v ag fully imploded would uh some of the smaller brands in these larger groups thrive alone or

would they be too integrated to survive v ag would be very problematic i think that's that's a too big

to fail and the government owns a portion of that company anyway yeah stilantis could actually fail

and i think well they've already kind of separated like jeep ram jeep and ram like i think they would

continue could could survive christler would die i think that i think the the minivan would go would

probably become a ram probably you know or or whatever um but like yeah nissan reno i don't

think would fail i think if nissan failed reno would probably carry on although i don't really

know much about the business the business of reno because we don't i don't either i think it

depends on how much manufacturing is done under one roof for each brand like like if you have a

factory a is humongous and it makes reno and nissan also nissan's gone can you continue

to operate that factory without the revenue of selling those extra cars so i don't know yeah i

mean they they may have to sell the factories and you know drastically reduce their operations or

build car there wasn't there a joint venture where nissan was going to build cars for honda or

something like that yeah that was briefly talked about but yeah that that could be a thing where

reno goes hey we're going to start building cars for ford over here whoever yeah uh bush did 997

what are your favorite steering wheels good question i have many the the singer turbo that's

a good one is the best steering wheel i've ever used i think momo prototipo is that's yeah of

course that's the like that's the momo prototipo is the like you could have this look you know it's

like a lot of people could buy a prototipo sure and you can put one in a variety of cars yeah and

achieve the correct vibe yeah that's true you could put it in a 308 you could put a 911 you could

put it in an alfa romeo you could put it in almost any european sports car you could put a prototipo

and it will aesthetically make sense and it'll feel right the spiker is one of my favorite to

look at your original spiker the original spiker even though it's like it's not dished which is

weird it's just flat and it looks like it'll kill you because there's a spike in the middle of it

but as a as something that was put out in the 2000s just what a thing yeah that's a that's a

fucking steamship tiller that exactly um the all the all the gt wheels are great because they're

the only knob on them is like this controls the driving mode yeah or gt3rs has like all the

suspension but it's there's no buttons you can bump with your fingers there's no volume you

couldn't accidentally control like the my least favorite wheel is the mercedes wheels which is

every square with haptic and stuff it's terrible no i think like the the Porsche wheel the mclaren

wheels are really good one those both those wheels are they're very similar they're essentially

perfectly round no flat bottoms circles with nothing on them really really good contours not

not too thick not too thin well the mclaren contour actually you bring it has that perfect

like it's got like a ridge in it where you can press on the inside with your thumbs it's not

circular around the wheel either it's almost like uh like an oval kind of like half a watermelon

one size flat one size round the Nissan skylines the r32 original r32 three spoke wheel is superb

yeah there's yeah oh yeah that's just i mean that's just fucking textbook isn't it yep um

yeah no no notes there that's that's as good as a steering wheel gets um good question

segway gt3 dui edition just built my dream garage including a lift yeah and i'm looking to round out

my garage with an older third car to work on and play with all over the place right now including

the mr2 turbo 996 Subaru gc8 e30 portion 914 datson 240z auto zam az1 i currently have a lucid

air and an nd3 miata on good suspension what would be the most fun and provide a new experience for

under 30k wow you are all fucking over the place i would not recommend a mid-engine car or a car

where the powertrain's like hidden to be your tuner car and play with car i would really recommend

not doesn't have to be necessarily front engine but like fucking a 996 is a bitch to modify and

service like you have to take the engine out for a bunch of shit oh right good point you know what

i mean like the like an e30 is kind of like a miata not super easy to work on i think the auto

zam well that's that'd be hard to work on probably dude i think if you did an rsti

that would be a two door super 2.5 that'll be the easiest thing to work on with an sti powertrain

swap like you could work on it it'll feel different from your other two cars yeah 30k goes like a

pretty long way in getting a decent one um parts availability you know you're using a lot of factory

parts for those kind of cars you can swap a bunch of shit over which makes it easier yeah yeah i would

do that that's a good idea yeah if you want something to learn to work on yeah that's the

way to go i don't i wouldn't want something where i had to be sorry my hands were wet where i had to

like with a mid-engine car you gotta like find shit all in there it's hard to get to 996 that's

underneath and that stuff's really tough to get to i would yeah yeah 240z might require more

custom work i don't know i'm not as familiar with that aftermarket but but like you said the the

super loser legos yeah so you can you can literally bolt in you know high performance turbo

charged engines that will just fit there so the jdm engines there's like three different

gearboxes you can get there's all kinds of fun stuff you can do with and if you're spending 30

you can spend way less and get one that's already probably pretty far along yeah and then just tinker

yeah steve mcqueen latifa that's great that is absolutely superb contraction famous roads which

disappeared when you finally disappointed oh disappointed sorry when you finally had a chance

to drive them i was on the million dollar highway in colorado and was underwhelmed pretty and curvy

but too much traffic and didn't feel as special as i was led to believe uh we then came back through

telluride and that was an awesome drive yes the roads the road out of telluride is the j i think

it also depends on what you're looking for because a good friend of mine just drove million dollar

dollar highway and she could not stop talking about it really yeah because she just wanted a

sightseeing she's driving a forester so but if you're looking to you know cook and drive quick

and if there's a lot of traffic sure sure i think a lot of america's best roads are considered that

way from the perspective of the sightseer and not necessarily the canyon carver um but there's

also like time of day like if you want to hit that tourist road in a sports car like you're

getting up at five like fucking be out there like i've i've run tail the dragon a dozen times

and if you go at fucking noon sure disappointing if you go at six a.m you get a clean run that road

fucking kicks ass you know i've driven a couple times and i just find it to be a bit repetitive

on like the second gear like and then tight turn tight turn tight turn tight turn it's not my favorite

road in the area i'm a skyway man myself charo charo hall of skyway i's in my opinion the best road

in the country and it's the it's right there so just go you can go do that too but the dragon at

six a.m when the fog is lifting you know is pretty pretty epic yeah it's like tree skiing it's yeah

powder you know just tighten back and forth it's a workout you know you got to be in the right car

but like but i also think that you got to do it do the road at the right time when we went to um

glacier national park what's the there's a there's a famous road in glacier national park it's like

the climb to the clouds or something something like that um and it was slow you know there was

other people on it uh whatever going to the sun road that's it the going to the sun road

a dude i mean it was staggeringly beautiful and you know part of me i was driving an urus

part of me was like oh man this would be nice if i could fly and Hannah was like look at

there's a waterfall going over the road like it was it was the most beautiful road yeah a

most beautiful road imaginable yeah don't rush this wow this is the kind of road where you want to

bring a 1925 fucking loco mobile and just chug up that bitch like our friend john bothwell did yeah

so like that would be disappointing from a dynamics perspective but it was so beautiful i didn't

who cares yeah it's all about what you're after people i mean if you a lot of people you know

driving pch through big sir yeah you go 10 am and you're stuck behind three rvs that sucks but you

go fucking you wake up early and you rip that thing at sunrise that's the jam and i also when we

drove down uh in monorail car week i forgot a little bit of how nice it looks how stunning it is

because we're going slow i could look at the thing because if you're hauling ass you're not

really going to be able to take in the uh sites uh fwd nsx says as a young person with limited

budgets what are some good ways to get track time i'm 30 minutes from sonoma raceway but only

ever done wednesday night drags become an instructor i mean that the easiest way to get cheap or free

track time is to become an instructor that's like because that's how they pay him a lot like

instructors will be like ah you know you get a hundred dollars a day and you get you know two

sessions but you got to instruct on the other sessions like that's how people do it now how

does someone become an instructor well you have to then either go to a school and you know work

your way up like you don't necessarily need to be a credentialed instructor you just have to get to

a level of competence within a track day company like there isn't a way to start from zero and

end up somewhere but there are more cost effective ways to get track time that will ultimately be

cheaper than just buying it like so you you have to have the the the skill level to be an instructor

which doesn't necessarily mean that you need to be the best driver in the world but you have to be

above average communicative and most importantly fucking willing to ride right seat with people

yeah that and you're 25 so you'll be brave enough 25 so you'll probably be okay you could also you

could get a lot of experience uh and understanding vehicles dynamics and driving doing autocross i

know it's not as exciting but you will learn a lot of things that will help you talk to instructors

and then when you talk to them about how to become an instructor if you say i've got this many months

or years of autocross under my belt at this place you know every month they will see that you're

putting in the effort to get somewhere and they'll probably help you yeah there isn't a good way to

do it for for for cheap the track racing is unfortunately expensive um uh yeah it's it's

sim racing is the cheapest way to do it yeah but i mean maybe you could be a corner worker

also being a corner worker may help you get track time i mean i might maybe yeah i'm not i know i know

that corner workers often have track rat cars so i see them out on track sometimes so uh carter

bliss says how do i convince my girlfriend that small sports cars are not girly or unmanly we just

talked about this your girlfriend sucks carter uh i mean i don't know man i don't know i think i think

that's uh a car doesn't make you girly or unmanly i have a pink fucking boxer i you know i don't

think but i think convincing someone of that is hard because that means you know they were socialized

taught around people that said that about miata's or whatever and that's just like part of their

brain so i think convincing them can she let's see if you have miata can she drive it is she

allowed to could she just stick if you if you show her the fun of it i think that's the best way to

correct someone on that yeah why don't you rent one on turro you know and have a little week go

away for a night or a weekend you know a little romantic road trip weekend in one and maybe they'll

find it's fun well there's also like she thinks two cars is a waste of money he's got a forerunner

and a jcw mini and he can't afford both of them well that's a different discussion no no he said i

used to drive a a jcw mini and now i have a forerunner oh he wants a fun but i want a second car

and uh this she this has his other significant other things two cars is a waste of money for one

person well this person doesn't like cars like you know what i mean like i'm sorry but like

if you can only have one car it has to be manly like that's not someone who likes cars right

that's like it just isn't so you have to convince her to like cars well or i think demonstrate to

her or have a conversation that cars are really important to you and you like you know my wife

is not that into cars she's a little into them but she sees that i enjoy my car even with all

the problems it has and she's like that's your thing and i support the shit out of that that's

what that that should be the discussion what does she have two of that she doesn't really need two

of you can't use shoes though because it's like they're not shoes but like does she have 12 hand

bags i mean i'm not and i don't have a problem with that at all but like i for someone saying

she's a very logical person and thinks two cars is a waste of money there is absolutely something

this woman does that you would consider to be a waste of money sure that you do not have a problem

right because she gets joy from it yeah she have two boyfriends and you're like that's fine

way mo hand jobs from women i hardly know is there any reasonable scenario for building a h

pd e slash canyon car out of a late fourth gen trans am i mean yes yeah yes there is those cars are

chairman chassis perspective like and a powertrain perspective like very competent yep they're just

rattled it's an f body car and they we've driven some that handled great yeah um they can be made

into pretty potent racing machines you do not have to do much where i support the suspension

brakes get a ws six yeah the big nostrils yeah it doesn't they're just rattly but just like take

the interior out and throw it away you know and put in real seats because the seats are terrible

and accept that it's going to be a rattly shit box um but they like they actually drive a lot

better than they look and they can be set up nicely whipped cream save lives uh i just saw

larry chen posted a video about an electric a e 86 with a manual transmission and off the shelf

parts from toyota or lexus functional manual gearbox and motor programming similar to the

original ice engine uh do you think this might be a potential future for an enthusiast vehicle

i don't want that like that's that doesn't like i'm i'm happy that someone built something cool

but like i don't see a lot of people driving and posting about this lately yeah i don't want this

i mean here you have a car with one of the finest gas powertrains ever it was incredibly light

it was also incredibly fuel efficient and it was very fizzy a fizzy engaging a powertrain

and those are not the kind of cars that i want to ev swap i think we should keep those cars

because they're so engaging and dynamic and ev swaps cars that uh where the powertrain is a

is a point against not a point four like fucking wagon ears and whatever now

i don't mind someone doing this like once but i also don't i don't need to drive stick in an ev

either i don't need to fake that i want to drive real stick and if we're going to fake it i'm okay

with with paddles i don't i don't need to a fake clutch pedal i think this is a cool proof of concept

but unless we are all forced to drive evs entirely i agree with you that like this doesn't really

appeal to me or have a market i think it's cool and it's rather someone built it out of like

you know found parts and and brain power yeah um it's just kind of like a why yeah but just for

science they did it for fun cool yeah yeah to me it's a solution to the wrong problem um

but you know fun for science school yeah but someone messaged me this this morning and said

this is exactly the thing you said you'd want i was like no no no you are enormously misunderstanding

what i've said i want i what i've said is that you can make a fun and dynamic ev sports car

and the way i think you could do it is by using whimsy to mimic gas cars of of the past well that

kind of does that if you get the right sound in there but i think there's no there's no reason

to push for this at the moment other than that it's an experiment and it shows that the technology

could exist one day yeah okay cool but i wanted i might i might want that in a new car i do not

want to be ev swapping great classic sports cars particularly not ones with awesome engines that

are also very fuel efficient i bet you that car is more fuel efficient than fucking most of like

gm's entire fleet right now if you exclude evs quadrufully o-face best bond car i mean i'm very

partial to the vanquish obviously yeah i like the dbs a lot um you know what was the db5 with

the ejector seat i mean how do you beat that it's a db4 db5 uh db5 oh yeah i mean how do you

beat that thing had machine guns smoke and an ejector seat i mean as a kid you're not gonna

beat that yeah uh this has to be trolley this can't be a real question right there's nobody who

actually listens to the show would write this like this right i think it's a real question

okay i'm var the var he has he has questions a lot okay just the last sentence is is i i'm not

reading that because it's not it's so untrue that i'm not reading uh var the var says i know you

don't like fsd but have you tried the most recent iteration if so what do you think about it my friend

has a model three and we've done around 20 trips and it's been perfect from my driveway to parking

spot with no intervention so that is not anywhere near enough data to judge a system neither is one

trip taking a ride in something isn't data um millions of miles of testing is data and if you

saw uh recently the story came out uh wemo versus tesla's uh data which is hilarious wemo's had like

three accidents in like these millions and millions and millions of miles of testing

and if you look at what those three accidents are all of them were either something else crashing

into the wemo or uh someone opening the door of a wemo and then on the on the the traffic side of

it uh and then uh and the car hitting that door so it's like there have like there have been

functionally no wemo accidents like that have been caused by wemo's like functionally um the

deployment of the fsd quote robotaxi in texas uh has had multiple accidents already uh and we all

know how many accidents and deaths have been connected to fsd right so they disconnect fsd

right before impact which is very correct um tesla is still using camera only which uh

dude we should take a wemo today in the rain yeah we should see how we should see if it uh i've never

tried one in the rain um but uh look i i i'm glad you've had a good experience in this car i am

but like your experience isn't data it just isn't the the data that is collected over millions of

miles of driving um is data and and in your last sentence you refer to that tesla model three as

an autonomous driving system it is not that is absolutely not an autonomous driving system

wemo is a mostly level it's an all level four autonomous driving system there are no people

in the car there are human backup drivers in a data center somewhere so if the car has a

fuck up and i press the help button or they detect a fuck up a human can remotely drive that car

to safety if need be i have no evidence that that's ever happened while i was in a car but but like

there's no one in the fucking car like there's you if you if a human still has to be there that

is not an autonomous car it's just not if that tesla model three gets into a crash while you're

using fsd you bet your fucking ass elon must gain paying for it very true you know it would be such

a bummer and this is just more of a joke that like in five years we find out that all the

wemo cars were just being driven driven remotely by people with afghanistan well because those

delivery robots that are just like the size of a cooler that deliver food that's what they are

they've got a camera and like rc yeah and it's just it's a remote control but people for a little

while thought that they were autonomous around town it would be crazy to find out that google has a

fucking building in like pakistan with 50 000 people in it that are just remotely driving

wemos that would be insane it would be disappointing especially with all the so this is oh here's a

here's an article from a month ago tesla is attempting to conceal the details of three separate

accidents involving its robo taxi service in austin despite having only two months of service

in the fleet yep also tesla uh recently said that it's gonna pivot from its uh helper robot

come wait a minute plan and the guy that was the head of their robotics left to go work at meta

and he took a pay cut to do it no but you're gonna know because that can't be because they were the

leader in humanoid robots i know stock went up and they said it would be 80 percent of their

revenue at some point but the stock went up zak when the stock goes up it means they're right

about everything don't you know how america works we are we are the stupidest fucking country i can't

believe how dumb we are it's every day is a new level of fucking stupid anyway um so anyway yeah

teslas aren't autonomous and your rides aren't data so please don't die and if you do i told you so

um that's our show folks oh do you have it do you have a story well i heard of i heard it on

profg podcast i'm trying to find their source link okay right now okay anyway all right sorry

we'll abort that part of the story um unproven unproven allegations right but we do know i mean

listen we do know we have we have we're on a real good information a real good lead i saw it on the

internet tesla is bringing in kilos of coat no space x space x is bringing kilos of cocaine

they're using private planes to do it one crashed in the jungle i saw it on twitter so it's definitely

true right definitely true well this is elon a month ago uh teslas it's optimus humanoid robot

executive before right before you know i said that optimus would be 80 percent of the of their

revenue or two weeks after two weeks after why can't two weeks after elon must claim the product

and how uh in how many times in those two weeks do you think that guy said

i can't fucking take this shit anymore right and then he's like he said he said what he said

that much he went on to imagine the pressure he said it's ready and they're just feeding him

bales of cocaine though you'll figure it out you'll figure it out if you do if you never sleep

and you get incredibly confident yeah you have to get hardcore just say you already know how to

do it and don't sleep and do a little ketamine once in a while yikes a lot of ketamine uh thanks

everybody love you patrons you're the best keep kicking ass uh your usernames are getting fucking

much your usernames are getting sentient unlike elon musk robots we'll see you later goodbye

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