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The Classics And The Jokes, The House Cars, Abandoning Tech And Customers  | Episode 1,019

The Classics And The Jokes, The House Cars, Abandoning Tech And Customers | Episode 1,019

Everyday Driver Car Debate Nov 04, 2025 107 min
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About this episode

SEMA week excitement kicks off with discussions about upcoming reveals and the latest automotive trends. The hosts dive into the intriguing Longbow Roadster, a lightweight EV sports car with ambitious goals but no production setup yet. They also engage listeners with a fun thought exercise on '12 car garages,' leading to a lively debate on future classics and duds in the automotive world. Highlights include predictions on which cars will stand the test of time and which will become jokes, with a mix of humor and insight throughout the episode.

Technical Too Afraid to Ask
Car

Honda That Honda

"...cars are kind of becoming a thing, too. And I saw that Honda was releasing some motor oil, too, like a"
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Company

Longbow

"...this is fascinating from a startup called Longbow. Longbow in the UK, they have dropped the speed..."

Longbow is a new car company from the UK that makes interesting vehicles, including a model called the Roadster.

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Term

EV

"...with the juicy stats, a sub2,000 lb EV sports car with a 52 kW battery, which isn't the biggest battery ever, but it's a small car..."

An EV, or electric vehicle, runs on electricity instead of gas. This means it doesn't produce emissions like regular cars do, making it better for the environment.

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Term

kW

"...with a 52 kW battery, which isn't the biggest battery ever, but it's a small car..."

kW, or kilowatt, is a way to measure how much power something uses or produces. In electric cars, it helps describe how strong the battery or motor is.

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Term

range

"...200 mi range. I mean, they're claiming 275, but at least 200 what they're building..."

Range is how far a car can go on a full charge, especially important for electric cars. If a car has a 200-mile range, it means you can drive it for 200 miles before needing to recharge.

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Term

horsepower

"...at least 270 horsepower, which is the recipe because a small sports car like this, you're not commuting and doing long distances..."

Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. The higher the horsepower, the faster and more powerful the car can be.

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Lotus Elise
Thierry & Didier Descouens (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Lotus Elise

"...my favorite routes in my Elise on a perfect Sunday morning is about 110 miles. One of my perfect routes from my house..."

The Lotus Elise is a small, lightweight sports car that is fun to drive. It's designed to be very responsive and is often used for driving on winding roads.

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Lotus Exige
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Lotus Exige

"...the Exie, the big boy Exieges have got like 260. Okay, it's the same weight..."

The Lotus Exige is a sportier version of the Elise, with more power and better performance. It's built for speed and handling, making it great for racing or spirited driving.

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Term

MSRP

"...this is supposed to be a $100,000 car roughly. I mean like $85,000 for or pounds or whatever."

MSRP is the price that the car company suggests you should pay for a new car. It's like a starting point for how much a car should cost, but the actual price can be higher or lower depending on the dealership.

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Porsche Speedster
Lothar Spurzem (CC BY-SA 2.0 de)
Car

Porsche Speedster

"...at least they're doing it. And it it is pretty nice looking. The Speedster has no top at all. The Roadster is not a convertible. I just want to clarify."

The Porsche Speedster is a type of sports car that doesn't have a roof, making it great for driving in nice weather. It's designed to be lightweight and fast, focusing on the driving experience.

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Term

coupe

"...Okay. This is the coupe version, which I actually think looks great."

A coupe is a type of car that usually has two doors and a fixed roof. They are often sporty and stylish, designed for a more exciting driving experience.

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Lexus Lc500
Ethan Llamas (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Lexus Lc500

"it's already reaching this status and that is the Lexus LC500. >> It is a classic. It's going to be a"
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Jaguar Ftype
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Jaguar Ftype

"...good dynamics. I mean, I think I think it's interesting in that regard. The Jaguar F-Type. Oh,"

The Jaguar F-Type is a stylish sports car that offers strong performance and a beautiful design. It has engines that provide a lot of power without the use of turbochargers, which are becoming more common in newer cars.

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NSX
TTTNIS (CC0)
Car

NSX

"...but I think it's one of those cars kind of like the original NSX,..."

The Acura NSX is a sports car that was popular in the 1990s. It was known for being fast and having a unique design, making it a favorite among car enthusiasts.

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Jaguar E-Type
Vauxford (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Jaguar E-Type

"and going Jaguar used to make that which let's be honest we've done for the past 50 years with the E type. Save Ferris. Save the manuals. Save Jaguar. Save the anything type E type."

The Jaguar E-Type is a famous sports car made by Jaguar, known for its beautiful design and speed. It was produced a long time ago, from 1961 to 1975, and is still loved by car enthusiasts today.

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Acura Integra Type S
Private photographer's collection, anonymous (Public domain)
Car

Acura Integra Type S

"...moving on from that to my next classic. It is the Integra Type S. No kidding. I think when they stop selling this, no kidding,..."

The Acura Integra Type S is a sporty version of the Acura Integra, which is a compact car. It's designed for people who want a fun driving experience with a stylish look.

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Term

manual transmission

"Okay. Okay. I mean, manual transmission,..."

A manual transmission is a way to change gears in a car by using a stick and a pedal. It gives drivers more control over how the car drives, which some people really like.

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Honda Civic Type-R
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Honda Civic Type-R

"it is the the because we we know that the Civic Type R is going to hang on to value with people that wan..."
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Cadillac CT5
Elise240SX (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Cadillac CT5

"... S. So, that one's on there for sure. Uh Cadillac CT5 Blackwing."
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Cadillac Escalade
Baron Maddock (CC BY 4.0)
Car

Cadillac Escalade

"I was actually just passed with a purpose on the freeway by the Escalade IQ."

The Escalade IQ is an electric version of Cadillac's large SUV, the Escalade. It's part of Cadillac's move to offer more electric cars.

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Porsche Cayenne
Alexander-93 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche Cayenne

"...I was in my wife's Cayenne, which is no slouch, but I saw him coming was just like, "You know what, buddy? You just go...""

The Porsche Cayenne is a fancy SUV that drives really well, like a sports car. It's made by Porsche, a brand famous for fast cars.

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BMW M5
Vauxford (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW M5

"is going to be one of those cars like the the E39 M5 where in 20 years we're going, "Those were great...."
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BMW E39
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW E39

"is going to be one of those cars like the the E39 M5 where in 20 years we're going, "Those were gre..."
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Chevrolet C8
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA)
Car

Chevrolet C8

"... think is going to be a classic has got to be the C8 Z06 because I think this is going to get"
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Concept

collector's item

"...The ZR1 will be a collector's item no matter what. There'll be one wrapped in plastic at Barrett auctions in 20 years..."

A collector's item is something that people like to collect because it's special or rare. Cars that are unique or famous can become collector's items, and people often keep them for many years.

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Term

naturally aspirated

"...But the Z06, naturally aspirated, flat plane crank."

Naturally aspirated means the engine gets air from the atmosphere without any extra help from turbochargers or superchargers. This can make the engine feel different when you drive it.

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Term

flat plane crank

"...But the Z06, naturally aspirated, flat plane crank."

A flat plane crank is a special design for the engine's crankshaft that helps the engine run smoother and sound different. It's often found in high-performance cars.

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Lotus Amira
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Lotus Amira

"prettiest car in generations. It is the Amira. >> What I like is that I didn't bring this"
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Aston Martin Vantage
Mr.choppers (CC BY-SA 3.0)
Car

Aston Martin Vantage

"...the current Aston Martin 2025 Aston Vantage. I liked the Vantage when it came out. This this new style..."

The Aston Martin Vantage is a fancy sports car that looks great and goes fast. The 2025 version has some new features and a fresh design.

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Mazda Miata
Yaktatel (Public domain)
Car

Mazda Miata

"RF in particular, >> the MX5 Miata RF is an instant classic. >> Okay. All right. Tha..."
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Hyundai Genesis
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Hyundai Genesis

"styling and design, but I was captivated by the Genesis G90, the current large sedan. Not just proportion..."
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Genesis G90
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Genesis G90

"...g and design, but I was captivated by the Genesis G90, the current large sedan. Not just proportionally..."
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BMW 740iL
MB-one (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW 740iL

"...what we love about the late 90s, early 2000s BMW 740ils. Whoa. I think it's absolutely overlooked right now"

The BMW 740iL is a large, luxury car made by BMW. It was popular in the late 1990s and early 2000s for its stylish design and comfortable ride.

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Tesla Cybertruck
Alexander-93 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Tesla Cybertruck

"... much and that is the Cybert truck I have to talk Cybertruck >> up until the moment it came out there"
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GMC Hummer EV
UltraTech66 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

GMC Hummer EV

"... to back it off. It's too it's it's too easy. The Hummer EV. Now, this this also speaks to the other thing"
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Term

0 to 60 time

"...which weighs nearly 10,000 pounds down into the 3 second range 0 to 60 and it crab..."

0 to 60 time tells you how fast a car can go from a stop to 60 miles per hour. It's a way to see how quick a car is when you start driving it.

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Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross

"This is the Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross. You're trying not to laugh. Okay, now I will admit I also found a bad picture on purpose, but that was the whole exercise. Go find the worst picture of them."

The Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross is a small SUV that looks sporty and is designed for everyday use. It has a unique style and comes with modern technology to make driving easier.

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Mini Countryman
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Mini Countryman

"going to be a joke over time. the updated Mini Countryman. >> Oh, yeah."
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Nissan Z
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Nissan Z

"drives. >> And topping my list is the new Nissan Z. >> I get you're going to get letters."
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Toyota Supra
Dietmar Rabich (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Toyota Supra

"... to the I guess the end of the life of the the GR Supra. >> Discounts."
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Nissan 370Z
IFCAR (Public domain)
Car

Nissan 370Z

"...some of the old stuff, a lot of it's based on the 370Z, >> let's cobble together and get a new"
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Maserati MC20
Jengtingchen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Maserati MC20

"Maserati, >> I don't think the MC20 is going to age very well."
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Audi A8
Vauxford (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Audi A8

"...at you brought up. You had to walk by the current Audi A8, which by the way isn't the best looking"
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Mercedes-Benz Sclass
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Mercedes-Benz Sclass

">> The beauty queen next to this. You walked by the new current S-Class. >> Yeah."
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Volkswagen Bus
sv1ambo (CC BY 2.0)
Car

Volkswagen Bus

"...'t think it brings back everybody. Oh, I love the Volkswagen bus. The bus is so cool. The old bus. and it remains"
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Volkswagen Id Buzz
Alexander-93 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Volkswagen Id Buzz

"... engine in the back, and it eventually became the ID Buzz. Let's imagine it's got a gas engine,"
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Ford Focus RS
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Ford Focus RS

"...n a shoot. It was the if memory serves it was the Focus RS and Civic Type R prior Civic Type R. There were a..."
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Porsche Boxster
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche Boxster

"he didn't love the color. >> The first Porsche Boxster S. He bought it thinking it was an upgrade"
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BMW Z3M
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW Z3M

"He bought it thinking it was an upgrade to the Z3M. He still believes it is. Then he went to a Porsc..."
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Porsche 911
David Villarreal Fernández (CC BY-SA 2.0)
Car

Porsche 911

"...e still believes it is. Then he went to a Porsche 911 997 generation. He had wanted one for a long"
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BMW 330
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW 330

"Okay. >> BMW 330 ZHP automatic which normally right there it's lik..."
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Porsche Macan
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche Macan

".... I know exactly what you mean when you say it. A Macan S and a Wrangler 4xe. The Macan is kind of"
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Jeep Wrangler
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Jeep Wrangler

"you mean when you say it. A Macan S and a Wrangler 4xe. The Macan is kind of feels as easy to drive ..."
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Saab 900
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Saab 900

">> Mhm. >> He lists a Saab 900 SPG, the Special Performance Group Saab 900. My"
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Audi Tt
Sarah Larson from Ann Arbor, MI, USA (CC BY 2.0)
Car

Audi Tt

">> anyway, >> first gen Audi TT is next on the list. That 3.2 VR6 engine. So, Jos..."
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Cadillac STS
HJUdall (CC0)
Car

Cadillac STS

"haven't tried that and you know Fiesta STS and just rock it through stuff but then where doe..."
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Ford Fiesta ST
Vauxford (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Ford Fiesta ST

"experienced yet. Yeah, go get yourself a $9,000 Fiesta ST and you'll cackle for well until boredom hits."
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Honda S2000
Handelsgeselschaft (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Honda S2000

"... that may never come again, and that is the Honda S2000. >> Oh, that's really good."
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Mazda Rx8
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Mazda Rx8

"something quirky? What about an RX8? >> You want somewhere to put your money?""
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Mazda Rx7
TTTNIS (CC0)
Car

Mazda Rx7

"going to bring it home properly. >> Could an RX7 uh FD RX7 fit here, too? Because I I like those R..."
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Ford Mustang
Hans-Jürgen Neubert (CC BY 4.0)
Car

Ford Mustang

"previous cars include 60s Volvos, 70s Mustang 2 Cobra. Oo, you had one of those."
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Shelby Cobra
Spurzem - Lothar Spurzem (CC BY-SA 2.0 de)
Car

Shelby Cobra

"previous cars include 60s Volvos, 70s Mustang 2 Cobra. Oo, you had one of those."
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Nissan 300 ZX
Niels de Wit from Lunteren, The Netherlands (CC BY 2.0)
Car

Nissan 300 ZX

"...ar. No nav screen, no digital anything. '90s car. 300 ZX from from Nissan. Early 2000s BMW with NAV."
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Chevrolet Blazers
ArildV (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Chevrolet Blazers

"an old Suburban from 19 Just kidding. >> Blazers for everyone. K series Blazers for everyone. Grea..."
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Porsche 911 Turbo S
David Villarreal Fernández (CC BY-SA 2.0)
Car

Porsche 911 Turbo S

"cut the back end out. Stuff of Porsche V the Turbo S engine back there. >> Can we put in the flat toas..."
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Lucid Gravity
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA)
Car

Lucid Gravity

"specifically wheel sizes. Saw the Lucid Gravity has 23in wheels on the rear. >> For a luxury SUV,..."
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BMW M3
MB-one (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW M3

"chain tensioner. An E46 M3 with the original rod bearings."
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