The Hamilton Collection vs Christian Von Koenigsegg, Genesis Shakes Things Up, Kia TelluRover

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Also hyper clean store.com Nick Nick never runs specials at hyper clean

But this is the biggest sale of the year the year for you guys, right? Yeah, absolutely

15% off and we can't be more excited man. It's a great time here. Yeah, it's so fun

Oh, also, this is just for me as you get together with friends and family encourage everybody on our behalf to buy a cooler older car

That's just what I want to say to you. I hear you and leave the politics at home

Yeah, please I think we've had enough of that a lot of people good

Everybody's unless unless there's that one person at the table that that they bring if you don't bring it up

That's cool, but if someone else brings it up to you you give it to him

And I know our audience whatever your stance is you get it to him

You just let it let him have it

But dude so I wanted to talk to you about because everyone's gonna be talking about it

We're actually gonna be cutting these clips up earlier than usual because I want them to be out there to get our perspective on it

But the Hamilton collection the Koenigsegg Christian von Koen ever since I was younger

And I found out who you know made the Koenigsegg and the guy's name

This was probably you know a decade plus ago when I found out his name was going back to the rich people with three names joke

That we had a couple episodes back Christian von Koenigsegg. I'm like, what a cool fucking name for a billionaire

Reminded you of RV

Yes, Rob Van Damke, David's one of the best so where do you want to launch off with this man?

I'm sure you got an interesting perspective having been in that world for so long

I will say this is very odd behavior

On both parts right on both parts. Yeah, I

First thing I thought I started getting texts

You know from people who can't afford those things and I got texts from a lot of people that have never

And that will never own those things that are friends of mine and shout out to all you guys listening

I was one of them by the way

I'll say this

Pretty clearly this is about as odd as it can get

Something doesn't feel smell

None of it feels right. Yeah, because let's start here

This happens a lot

Now a lot in the world of hypercars is relative, right? It's not millions of people having this type of experience

but

Ferrari

Lambo, I just told you of an elite Mercedes situation. I've told you, you know about private coach builders and

Anything in this kind of hand-built world, by the way, for those of you that are in the muscle cars these these these

What would you call the spoke rest rest oh my yeah, I mean

On a much smaller money level, there's all kinds of nonsense that goes on and all kinds of things that have to be rectified

I mean, you've even seen some of there's all kinds of big lawsuits that take place and all of this kind of stuff happens

sort of the unspoken rule of all of this is

You handle it in house, especially when you get to the level of a two million three million four million dollar car and

I

Will say for all of you that have maybe gone into a comment section and said, you know

Koenig Zignix needs to make this right and you know if I bought a car that's that

You just have no basis in how this stuff works a hand-built car name the car company

Always has problems now

Some have fewer problems than others

Some of them come with minor problems. Some of them come with major problems

That's been generations. So I want to start with

this is the

odd behavior on both parties but collection

Collections especially don't normally do this and for people that are like have been living under a rock for the last week

Because I know sometimes it's it's hard for people that have good hard-working jobs to keep up with what's going on on the internet

And the car rolled especially

We're talking about an expensive car like a Koenig Zeg

Maintenance we're talking about this few that went online went digital with stories and a whole graphic of

Christian von Koenig Zeg looking like Thanos. It was a really bizarre attack at a person in a company of that stature

Right, so that just wanted to paint that picture there

For people that might not have known and you know

Hamilton the collect the older older Koenig Zeg already in his possession getting a newer one a custom one

So I just wanted to set the scene in case people didn't know that

Yeah, and actually it seems to be centered around a second-hand purchase Koenig Zeg, right, right?

A second-hand hyper clean excuse me hyper car purchase. Hey, if you need some hyper clean for that Koenig Zeg

Let us know we'll send you some out. It is a very is a very real thing, right? Like it's it's

Sort of frowned upon, you know hyper car builders don't like

People buying second hand and then kind of blaming them for stuff that you know looks like maybe the maintenance wasn't done

And I know what I saw a lot of people saying which is you know a car with less than 10,000 miles shouldn't need all that

Hypercars or hypercars man. I'm not saying that some are absolutely better than others and when people say things like

Well, you know Bugatti guys

Bugatti compared to like completely hand-built is not that I know they're in the same segment

But there's Volkswagen parts. There's Mercedes like

You guys are comparing I know the same price level

But you're comparing apples to oranges because there are mass produced parts all over the bucat the Bugatti platform

Like you can use VW parts at certain to fix certain things in a Bugatti

You're not gonna do that with a Koenig Zeg so it's apples and oranges right off the bit right off the rip when you go

Well, you know Bugatti doesn't have these problems. You can write it for 40,000 miles. I hear you

You're just in the wrong lane here, but

Make no mistake a Bugatti a Ferrari a Lambo name the company that you think does hypercars the best and never has any issues

I can guarantee you they've had people because I've been involved with some of us say you sent me this car

I hate it. You need to facilitate me getting rid of this car

Happens

Way more often than people think, you know, I'd be curious. Let us know in the comments everybody

What are your thoughts on this is a question question of the day?

There's always a question of the day by the way on YouTube in the description in case you guys did know that I need more answers to

Those questions by the way because I go every week out of my way to think of the question of the day

You know even though we have tons of them on the show

I think last week we might have said like seven times to let us know in the comments, right?

Let us know in the comments. What are your thoughts on the entire hyper car?

Supercar not even in a collection just that that kind of industry in that world by itself

Like what are your thoughts on the supercar hypercar world because I think a lot of our audience

Loves you know to kind of talk about it from time to time admire that a car show

But our dudes and I should say our dudes Nicole and Bonnie

Which are the only two chicks that I can verify that constantly comment on our stuff

Are into like with the regular stuff that you know

You and I enjoy and always talk about and keep track of as well

But let us know in the comments what you think because you know when I see things like this going on and I see like

How to make your GT3 RS 30 seconds faster at the ring and stuff like it's kind of fun to read about and I wonder

How many other Millennials and elder Millennials are still really caring about some of these topics? Yeah, and

You're exactly right that we've stated on this show many times that that there is a big problem in

Taking these things that used to be special and now they're seen everywhere all the time

And it's really damaging the specialness of these vehicles

Right

So when we get back to talking about this situation, I want everybody to understand

I think I need to tell people logistically how this normally would be handled. Yes, that's a great segue

Yeah, why I think this is so strange. Yes, please and it was trying to explain it to me and I said save it for the show

So he owns

Two or three right? Is that the case? I forgive you to her. Okay?

To but he has one on the way or one and he has one on the way one and one on the way

But I'm gonna confirm as you're talking okay

So

Let's say you bought this car secondhand. You're having all kinds of issues with it

Kona zig is gonna have the point of view like you need to send this in it needs to be here for three or four months

And we need to go through the car that would be the first thing

Just so we're all clear that normally what happened of like hey, sorry about this

I know we have what they have 12 dealers

I think in the United States don't send it to a dealer send it to us give us three or four months

We're gonna sort the car out. We'll get it back to you doesn't seem like that happened. Right. So there's the first strange

Thing that I haven't seen really talked about

The second strange thing is if you had all these problems and you had a car on order and seemingly

You know that is not going well

although

CBK seems to be the guy that laid out the timeline and the timeline kind of favors

Konig's egg on that. I don't want to take a side

But seems like Konig's egg even if they miss a deadline guys hand-built cars miss deadlines all the time

Yeah, go to go to SEMA Ford misses deadlines. They don't even have drive shafts and the trucks in the boat

Why is Ford catching strays right now? I mean anybody Toyota. I mean it doesn't matter

Right, I mean so they had a year to get prepared two years to get prepared and they still don't really meet deadlines, right?

So when you look at all of this, here's what would normally happen and by the way happens pretty regularly

As you'd go I have a car on order

I've paid deposits. I own this car that I paid X number of dollars for that. I've had nothing but trouble with I want to

Dump all my Konig's egg ownership

Okay, it's almost like a stock you'd call your broker

The broker here would be Konig's egg and you'd say I want to dump my Konig's egg

stock which would be these two cars

If they fight you you get attorney involved which by the way anybody buying this level of car has an attorney

Usually in their building on speed dial, whatever

Then Konig's egg would bring their attorney in and you'd have a mediation

And a mediation would basically be you're setting a time frame for Konig's egg

To find you a buyer would be somewhere around six months to a year

Because again, you got to give ample time for this stuff to happen and you'd say hey

I'm not gonna make a stink about this. I just need you guys to facilitate and get me in touch with buyers that want your car

You need to make sure they understand. I'm not trying to be low balled

You maybe even might put a little one page two page five page agreement together of the timeline of things

It wouldn't be some like

monstrosity of a legal document

And it would just basically be like mediation in a divorce

Right, you sit in a room in this case you'd sit on zoom or whatever and you would just hash it out and you would go

Okay, you got 365 days to dump these two cars to another Konig's egg potential buyer

I know I might take I'm willing to take a 10% haircut on each or

20% or whatever you come to

Or you're not willing to take any

Haircut and Konig's egg signs the agreement and you guys, you know dump the cars

That's what makes this strange because this happens all of the time

like it really does and

The fact that neither party is bringing that part up is really strange while they're arguing back and forth

In a very strange that it's even happening world

It's like if you just assume the attorneys would have called each other and said hey everybody be quiet

Let's make a deal. Let's get out of it. So that's where I say

Is this a content play? Yeah, is there is there the tin foil hat and me goes

Something doesn't add up here now. I'm not saying that it doesn't add up

I'm just saying this is so regular to have happened. I mean Stradman dumped his Konig's egg

I was gonna ask about not ask about that

I was actually gonna look it up at a head and because I know he was making a lot of content for a long time with that

I think which was also an aura gear

I believe which is the one that Hamilton had issues with it was secondhand and and it's just funny the way that

Konig's egg was walking around the Jesko that he has on order, right?

And it's just something about the way he said it to like the video was done in a way where it was

You know, it was eloquently put you know, he's walking around the car

He's kind of describing the timeline in a way that seemed much more

Not erratic I guess because that's how I that's how I kind of watched some of Hamilton stuff

And I was like this and then at the very end

I guess to kind of sum it up when he replies back and it's so funny

did we've seen people at the highest levels of power in this world go back and forth on social media and now we're talking about you know

These car collectors and manufacturers are just like what a what a wild world, but he said, you know, good

Good cars bad people or something to that effect about talking about Konig's egg like they build or it's good people bad cars

Something to that effect. Yeah something like that. Yeah, and you know, you've had other collections way in

Right on behalf of of Hamilton. I think triple F guys weighed in worst car we ever owned something like that. Okay

Look, I got people that would say that about certain other brands too. Yeah, you know, this is not abnormal

You know, I have a customer that has great experience with BMW has horrible experience with Mercedes

Right, I mean and they're buying the top level of every one of those cars and they don't like this brand

They like that brand. You're loud, right? I mean, it's just human and by the way, sometimes you get something

That is not the greatest experience

And so you go I can't believe people like this. Well

to cbk's point

you know

They got a lot of repeat buyers if everything was terrible in that building

This company would have sunk long ago

Right in reality because this this is a world. It's kind of unforgiving like if it just was so this problematic all the time

For every owner

That's a wrap. It'd be a wrap by now. Now. It doesn't mean they're perfect either

Right. I'm sure there's a lot of headache. I know there's a lot of headache. I shouldn't even say, you know, it's not even speculation

There's a lot of headache

but

When you are at that level purchasing those cars

You basically don't buy a lot of things that aren't at least some type of headache

Right. And you know what came to came to mind too. It occurred to me

Having been around shop owners of all sorts from tuners to all kinds of other things in the aftermarket world

When somebody gets disrespected

They nobody knows what exactly happened

But this then ignites this whole like vendetta against this shop or the shop owner or this tuner

So something told me and you and I hadn't even talked about this that something may have happened that we'll just

We're just we're just kind of having a story time here on the podcast that um, Hamilton

You know didn't like and that was like his kind of switch. We're like, okay, that's it

This company is getting it and when you have social media power, of course

You know, you and I talked about a situation here recently where

I had to say to somebody like you realize you're talking about a guy that has like 200 million

Followers across platforms if he explodes. Yeah

This is like problematic, right? And I want people to understand. I think everybody's allowed to do what they want

I mean, that's one thing Rob and I stand behind by what you want do what you want your life

This is odd behavior and and where this will get judged and I know that people don't really understand this world

And I I kind of get that

Is amongst the owners that can afford cars like that. This is like stuff you don't do

Yeah, the court of public opinion is unforgiving. Yeah, and you go well, that doesn't really matter

It may matter down the road

You may need to do business with one of those people and they go

Weren't you the guy?

Yeah, I mean it this sounds crazy

But this is why this kind of elevated crowd doesn't do things like this, right

There's a lot of interconnection to a lot of different places around the world

It could be manufacturing could be whatever where these tycoons watch how you act. That's why we we always

Are very surprised about crazy things on the internet because the stuff lives forever, right and

Really smart high-level people knew that before anybody

Like they they just accepted like hey, I'm not gonna do that on the internet

And so I want our crowd to to kind of number one give us their comments and opinions on what's happened

But I want it to be through the lens of

This is odd odd odd behavior

Yeah, my and there's something behind it. That's not being put out

100% I can stand behind that for sure in my clutch culture

10 full beanie always goes on when I see stuff like this and I go right to wrestling a lot of times because of the

Social world the entertainment factor that we live in I even told dick on the phone

I was like this is this screams like classic wwe

But after you watch more videos and even some reactions from other people in that world

You're kind of like okay, and that's what that's when I started thinking about the disrespect factor

I'd like something may have happened that they just didn't like and that was just the end of it

He almost kind of said like let's just burn like was it Goggins? Who's gonna carry the boats?

Hamilton was like we're just gonna burn them off. How about that? I'm not carrying anything. We're gonna burn everything

and by the way

You know

A powerful social media guy just loses, you know, like you said wants to burn the boats. That's what he's gonna do

Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean like

And and I understand that

Oh boy does he

Man, I'm not

I'm not one of these guys that doesn't understand like that. Hey, if that is what you've decided to do

It's your platform do it. I'm not and I want to make this clear. I'm not judging either party. No, no

I don't really know what's happened here. I know one thing

This was all solvable in a five minute mediation, which by the way happens with every brand on big special cars

I mean

from from from four gts that that you know

They made all these rules and people broke the rules and attorneys got involved. I mean

That's a ford. Yeah that that happened on so it happens in the conic zig world. It happens in the bugatti world

It happens in the ferrari lambo world. It happens and when you have big powerful

Brands attached to big powerful wealthy people

Usually a little five minute mediation gets the cars unloaded and it's all good to go

Usually, but you know what the world cannot escape dudes being bros and bros being dudes

All right, and that will sometimes burn it all to the ground

I saw a video and then we'll move on to the subject of uh football players

I forgot which classic, you know, I think it was defensive end or something talking about the story from 15 years ago

Okay, him and this other player get into a beef on the on the field at some super bowl many many years ago

And on the field the guy that got tackled said i'm gonna fuck you up next time

I see you no matter where we are right the other player is like all right bet

15 years later

He sees this guy on the sidewalk and he's telling his buddy like take my hat

Take my phone and because he thought on site no matter how long it's been. We're talking almost two decades later

Yes, just bros being dudes and dudes being dudes guys being dudes like it's

As entertaining as all this stuff is and I think that's the best part of it. Yeah, I just go

It could really boil down to as easy as what you said

Somebody said something cross and he goes you don't talk to me like that and I'll show you

And the next thing you know, he spun his phone around and went off what a world

And here's the thing I I actually sympathize with that because it's like

Every one of us has a point of no return. Yeah, and it could be a small thing. It can be a large thing

But this level of money

Doesn't usually equate to this behavior. Yes, and that's what makes this week kind of strange

Man, I can't wait to see this unfold

We're talking about it just like everybody else the week of and we'll have clips of it out

So please leave us a comment somewhere and give us your thoughts because maybe we left something out

Maybe you can craft up a better narrative or story than we did

But um, look nick has always talked about how much he loves range rovers. All right, he loves we've man

That's one I was actually one of the viral videos defender range rovers those those kind of clips

But you know, he also uses this phrase

Um, what's the phrase that nick likes to use something to the effect of like talk about an uninteresting platform

I think you've said that a couple of times, right? Yes. So I'm going to bring up what I think is

An uninteresting platform, but it has kind of made things interesting and it kind of also looks like a range rover

And that's the 2027 Kia telluride

Yep, I mean

That design language looks very familiar. That is so familiar

I mean close your squints a little bit. That is a range rover. Am I mistaken or the the front grille is is a little

Kia-esque. Yeah

We said this yeah that that is a

Back into this is like you guys just literally ripped off range. I wonder if they're getting letters

legal letters like hey boys

This is what does this not make it interesting though? I mean

It makes it interesting and I've heard a lot of people and I know that I've had a lot of people talk to me about it

Is like, you know, why don't you?

Respect what Kia and Hyundai have done. I do respect it. I do respect that they've stepped up their design language and

But I also ask where do they fit in

if if

Kia and Hyundai are going to go into this upper echelon of I'm not saying all the way to range rover, but they're going to step up into

Toyota land

You know Genesis stepping way beyond Toyota land up into, you know, elite status

pricing wise

Where does they really fit in because I'm not going to I'm not going to say to somebody buy a Kia

when they can buy

a better car

Front to back engine everything in a Toyota Highlander or you know, that's where I just don't understand all of this

which is

Kia and Hyundai to me

And I know all of you want to debate this you can go to those dealerships

And they got engine upon engine upon engine stacked up for engine replacement

That has been the name of their brand since they came out. It's still the name of the brand

so

I like the the fact that the design language is now something we can all respect because they needed to make that step

So you can say great job

But they still haven't gone to the elite level of

Dependability or performance, you know, you got to stand on something

When it comes to your engine platform and it seems these two brands to me want to stand on

Our stuff looks better. And you know what's unfortunate when I heard about when I heard about the rumors of it

I was like, oh, it sounds interesting. And then I saw that they killed the v6

So this bigger heavier larger SUV will now have their two and a half liter four cylinder

And of course you see the words before that turbo charge. Yep turbo charge

So here's a company hybrid that didn't really do engines well

When they were more traditional now, we're going to throw a few turbos in the mix

and

probably thinner oil and longer maintenance times and

Is this good for these brands who couldn't figure it out when things were seemingly easier to build

So 270 horsepower 311 pound-feet of torque 49 more than the v6

I like how that's always like a plus like hey, we got more power out of smaller engines like

Are people really do they like that? Is that really?

Oh, yeah, no, you go to you go and end the comment sections and they they'll say all the time

Hey, you bought your new your old Toyota, but mine is more powerful with a smaller engine

It's like I don't think that's the flex you think it is

We do get that a lot actually on the Toyota stuff. You're right. Yeah, I don't think it's the flex you think it is because

Again, you had to recall

550,000 of the smaller engines already

Dude, it's you know what I mean like and I'm not saying they aren't going to figure it out

But you guys are flexing on things. So so here would be I think the logical way to look at Hyundai and Kia

Technology of non turbocharged engines was pretty much a settled science on reliability

Especially in the last 15 20 years

They never got it figured out by the way. No

Okay, now we're going to go to smaller engines

More turbochargers and we're all just going to act like they're going to get it figured out

When by the way Toyota doesn't have it figured out

on their new platform

And this brings another thing to to mind too and I don't even have it on today's notes

But I just wanted to ask you in case you had heard about it

But like the percentage of cars now that are run by tech is astronomical, right?

Like I think if you just go back 10 let's go 15 years back

The ability to just plug in an obd2 and have your car kind of analyze and get to the you know

Source of the problem or whatever lickety-split now. I think it's somewhere upwards of like 55 65 percent

And by like 20 36 it's going to be over well over 80 percent of cars

We'll need like literally I think somebody in the comments was like I wish that I'd need an engineering degree to fix my car

You know, it's like man. It's so true

and now you add this to it

and

now

And I'm not saying this is for everybody, but

How many people out there can really really take apart a turbocharged engine?

Yeah

I'm not I'm not saying it's like the hardest thing in the world to do

But I mean you're getting you're getting a less mechanically inclined society. You're getting more and more stuff bolted on to an engine

What's everyone gonna do here? I mean like you said those turbos these days isn't possible. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I just don't

And for everybody that just goes well, I recommend that you know

I've recommended to a lot of people to go buy the new Hyundai or the new Kia

I get it man. If it's $20,000 less

For this nice telluride then it would be for you know, whatever Honda's building whatever

You know Toyota's building again get into BMW pricing and all you know, wherever all that falls Mercedes

I understand that

But it seems to me these brands are going we're no longer going to be the cheap brand

And they're going to charge those premium prices

Where does it fit in for all of you?

Because I'm not paying a premium for anything with Kia and Hyundai on the on the badge. That's not that's just not gonna happen

Yeah, those two that that sentence will never go together. They paid a premium for this Kia

Yeah, it's not it's it

And if you guys love yours and you're like I have one it's been great

I have 10 other people that go bought the new telluride massively underwater

Interiors falling apart. This is falling apart. I've been at the shop

Again, not that that doesn't happen with other brands. Okay, I understand that

But the whole idea was I was buying a Kia because I was getting a steep discount

That's largely gone

Why are you choosing them? Yeah, and I will say I love turbos. I've always looked back in the day in high school

My gamer tag was a built by boost. By the way, that's how much I love turbos

so just saying

That sound is just intoxicating. I don't I don't think you were

Hyped on Kia turbos. No, I think back then they were literally looked at if a leaf fell on it would blow up

So it's like a simpsons episode of the leaf fall didn't I'll never forget

I had a buddy who had a car dealership that didn't do so well and they bought a

A Hyundai at auction on the wet driving at home from the car max auction the back end auction

The thing just blew up on the freeway and it was like seven minutes drive time. There you go. Like

Guys, you just don't forget that stuff people

You know like you just don't forget that stuff

This is where I look at it and go if it is cheaper and significantly cheaper

That is when I go. This is worth the risk

Look, okay, so I'm gonna I was going to talk about genesis next man

But I have another story. I'm just going to jump to the to the front here the line

So leap motor a10 small ev crossover. It has become available in china

So this is a totally random, you know story that I heard but

Every once in a while hearing what's going on in china

Is just interesting because they make a lot of interesting evs and they have like like I don't know 50 companies

Half of them are going under literally in the next 12 months, but they're still doing their thing, right?

Yeah, they got 50 companies and one gets all the government basically

You got like three and then one there's like the number one

But the interesting part of this and I'll show it to you

Maybe you can tell me what you think it looks like because the price of it

Based off what you just said is what really piques my interest here before we get to the price

What does this look like to you?

Uh

Does that have like a Porsche feel oh, I didn't even think that yeah, I was thinking honda

Which is basically like the honda hrv that front end kind of has like that mcconn. Yes, you're right

cayenne type

I mean

We're just going to gloss over the fact that like some chinese brand tried to do this like climbing adventure

On the wall and then it like slid down. I don't know man. I think all of us have I guess not all of us

I just don't know what all of this is so it's really hard to comment except saying

I don't really believe anything that comes out of this

Okay, okay. What do you think this is going to run in us dollars?

17 oh wow, how good uh 14

1070 usd. Yeah, you'll you have people in the comments go. I mean, I don't care where it's billed. It's 14 grand

Yeah, dude. That's me right now

He said it's over right now for 14 grants brand new with all the amenities for the regulations

We'd have cheap cars everywhere

Yo, that video continues again guys. We've said it several times but some of these older Toyota

Reels just keep getting crazy the level the level of delusion is like my favorite thing just so everybody's aware of my

What what really makes me laugh is when I watch people go, you know, they sell a car overseas

I'm aware. We're aware. We're aware

I guess guess what they also know the rules to get into the u.s. Market

They don't want to meet the rules because you numbskulls are paying 65 grand for a Tacoma

So that's why they don't want to bring it here. Yeah, that is lost on everybody that comments that similar kind of phrase

Yeah, and they're all Toyota fans. It's like yeah guys as long as you keep over paying for these trucks

They're good that they're they're not gonna they're not gonna cook the the golden goose, dude

Like you guys want cheaper stuff stop buying the $65,000 Tacoma

Yeah, and instead buy gold because you're gonna wish you did later

Gold bug gold bug alert

And silver if you want, uh, but I just thought it was interesting, you know

14 grand you send this shit over right now like you'll sell yourself quite a few of them

Here's just some some bigger shots of it. I just thought it's just kind of interesting looking

Yeah, I guess the front end doesn't look as much. It kind of looks maybe mini Cooper jinks. No, no, uh, no HMO

Um, I kind of yeah that kind of like that to look green your favorite

Yeah, green looks nice. Yeah, it's not bad. That's not bad. Um, I'm in

I'm just like that. I'm in I'm in give me a $14,000 Chinese EV dude. What if slate comes out like guys?

We can give it to you for 15 grand

I I'm wondering where Slate's at and all of this. Yeah, what about the guy, uh

Excuse me

What about the guy

That took over the old factory

That that is building

You know trucks now

Or building vehicles now and he's he's been doing it for a couple years, but he hasn't built anything

He's like took this old factory over and he said he's gonna use all these

New technologies to revolutionize

And I don't know if it's in Detroit or something somebody sent me something so I apologize if I'm getting it wrong

No, no, no, it's interesting. It's not like I wasn't like a it's not an EV specific thing, right? It's just trucks in general

I forget what he's doing, but it's maybe it's like misfits or you know, something like that or

Gotta add to my uh, you know, monstrosity

Some kind of

I'll put it on my list and I gotta look that up because if

Imagine if it's like a nobody no name that just all of a sudden whips up some kind of cheap technology

No, he is he's just like a normal guy. Well, there you go. All right

We're definitely out the reference side on the next episode

But here's a really interesting one talk about interesting cars at least I thought but I'd love to see what nick thinks about

What good old genesis is doing in the world of

Supercar or I guess mid-engine halo cars is what they're calling it but genesis unveils the halo car named the magma gt concept

I mean that gives vibes of like grand charismo the last unlockable

I'm gonna ask everybody this question at what point does chevy and hunday

Oh, ferrari money for copying

The four five eight slash four eighty eight platforms

Like at what point do we

You know start paying some royalties here

It depends was ferrari killing it when uh, that nintendo game f zero was out because a lot of people still they took designs from that video game

Looks great

One of the things we all have said about hunday is boy, they're doing design correctly. Yeah, they've hired all the right people

To do design correctly. I believe they have some some people from the m program at bmw that might be working

With them as well. I don't want to say that for sure, but i'm almost certain i'm right about that

okay

I

Again if it's at a price point I can buy something that's more established in the market

How many of you are going to take a risk on a hunday product?

I I don't think that's going to be a large number. I'm prepared to be wrong, but this is where we get to this whole world of

It looks awesome

Like you know, they they did a wagon. They they did this, you know, all this kind of stuff. It is unveiling

Yeah, man, this thing looks awesome

Uh, you guys want to tell me you're the sports car listener out there is going to go buy this

Okay, I'll wait to see it. I don't think you will but we'll get into the secondary market by the way here

Here's the deal you guys didn't buy nsx

Well that car was that was pretty lackluster this if this has a a thousand horsepower or whatever the hell

I mean it'd be a little different

Yeah, I mean, so does elucid. Okay. I saw one on the road for the first time in a long time

Hey

Those things are fast. Yeah, they are I mean it flew by it literally it flew literally off the ground

I was a guy what he did and then I was like, oh look elucid. Look at you. Yeah

Everybody's got to know lucid dreams. Yeah, literally. Yeah. Well the way he was driving

He was going to be having a long-term dream pretty soon

Pretty wild these EV drivers are getting out of hand in austin. I'll tell you we had a 12 car pile up like in an intersection out here

This week 19 year old just acting a fool acting a fool by the way

I was highlighting here for nick it says that

The sports car could compete with everything from the c8 generation corvette to the ferrari 296 gtb slash gts

All right, looking forward to seeing it pretty cool. Be claims. Yeah, what's the price point? Did they give that?

I did the way you said that did they give that huh showing off all his beauty. You got a price for it

I love this. We did an unveiling this looks like this is going to be expensive. Yeah, instead of buying a z06

You guys are going to buy this Hyundai concept. Come on. No, there's no price. There's no, of course, there's no price

And by I hope they build it right we want more sports cars built

I hope they build it. I'll be the first one to go my guess is this will be cancelled inside of a five-year period

Do you yeah, I was gonna say do you really hope they make it then if that's the case?

Yeah, because I mean I want people to prove me wrong you guys because this is what we'll get in the comments

Well, it's the new Hyundai. It's not the old hunt great, but you don't buy them

Like you're not going to buy this if it's 128 thousand dollars

Let's just furthermore get nick more wild up. Okay. I got to bring this up because I'm just gonna skip the line here

I got my own notes. I'm not even following because I'm being a rebel today

I'm just doing I want to be at a rebel today Porsche reveals the 2026 cayenne electric with

39 horsepower turbo model

Yeah

That's interesting and I love the people

Again, let's air quote journalists that got to see this and they're going. Oh, this is so what's exciting

Well, I mean, what's exciting it's another ev that has a thunder a thousand somewhere between 900 and 1200 horsepower

It does have thunder. It's a lot. I don't think it's lacking as thunder under the fucking hood of this thing

everything else

okay

like

It's another expensive ev the the market in my opinion has spoken on these

Am I wrong the automaker has been teasing a thousand horsepower and it was no joke, nick

But you can pull over a pad now, right? You don't have to plug it in

You can pull over like a pad and it'll charge so it's going to have the 800 volt arc architecture

Of net capacity the battery is integrated into the structure for less overall weight

I didn't see anything about a pad in this particular write up, but you may be right

I think it's I mean think about it like, uh, you know

Magsafe on the back of your phone like basically you can pull over and we've been hearing about that for a while too, right?

But it's been so slow and just never really been a thing. But yeah, so I don't know how that'll work

I mean, we got to see that play out, but it looks like they are going to try to integrate that here

Although let me go back to this real quick. You you even referenced the similarities in that china ev

This kind of looks like and now that you mentioned it

Rob, I don't just say things on the podcast blood. That's not true. You definitely say things

But sometimes, you know, a broken clock is right twice a day as I say

Hey, if I say enough stuff, Rob, I'm gonna be right at least once. Oh, yeah

Why do you think I say so much shit often? Is this like, okay, some of this stuff is gonna be accurate

This is gonna stick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. At least we hope if you say with enough charisma anything can stick

We've learned that from the internet. Yeah, I would be curious

I know a lot of Porsche buyers. I don't I'm not getting a lot of text of excitement out of this. I mean again

When we all get to the bottom of where we're at with expensive evs the market has spoken to Mercedes to Porsche

You know name name the company BMW sales aren't great for any of those companies. I mean the eqs platform has already been basically wiped away

Is Porsche gonna buck that trend because they have a more fanatic fan base. I don't really see that happening

No

Um, I mean you can pick up a Taycan cross Turismo for like 60 grand that used to cost 180

Is it really 60 grand? Yeah, like 61 anywhere between 60 and 75 thousand dollars

What a time. I mean, how about you pick one of those up for the channel?

It'll be your first tv

You know one of the funny thing I told everybody we had one of the first Taycans in the u.s

And it bricked itself out of light. Right. I've driven the Taycan a lot. Um, I think it's enjoyable

Is it special like I can't wait to get back in it. No seating positions weird for me

Uh, it's sat way too low for for being a four door. You couldn't get anybody in the back of that car

It was it's which is really strange for a four door sedan

I

I am very interested because these companies have invested so much

That they have to roll some of this stuff out

I wonder again, like we said, we would pay money to be in the boardroom

To for all the decision makers to go. Yeah, we got the new cayenne out

We're already planning that this is going to go horribly

So let's go ahead and figure out when we're going to take our quarterly losses so we can all

You know not screw with our bonuses too much

Like I just loved because you know those are maybe it's happening on the private jet the company jet

Someone somewhere everybody's going. How do we mitigate my bonus being screwed up?

That's literally what's going on

100% 100%

Um, I was talking to nick did it on the phone and I guys I really want a truck

I might even open this up to the audience

I convinced me of a truck to buy that's within reason because I just the use of it just comes up too often

And I kind of hate just not having one anymore

I had one couple back in the day a couple of them big small and I told nick

It was it got to the point where the bigger trucks are so expensive as we've talked about that

I might just get a ranger like because I loved my four liter ranger back in the day

And I went to go look at them on the low end. We're talking with like still 70 80 100 miles 20 thousand dollars

On the high end 30 thousand dollars with about 40 or 50 thousand miles

And I just thought I just can't that was more than the 2010 cost in 2010

If you buy that that would be electric for my jokes

So I mean for my comedic

Yeah, you know existence on the show

I kind of need you to overpay for a ranger so I can just be like wait a minute

You're talking back to me when you overpaid for a ranger, you know, I kind of just need that in the back

I never live it down 30 thousand dollars. By the way, should you? No

Unless every time that I'm driving it. I play that song. I'm no stranger

four fucking ranger

That's the only thing I'll play on the radio

So, I mean you kind of get into like old fords old Chevy's, you know, half tons

Right, I mean, it's where you're gonna have to live to find something that you would really enjoy

Or nick made a very good point of what he would buy. You remember we used to on the phone the other day

What what Cadillac you would buy the other day? Oh the old school escalate the old school escalate and the ext 100 percent

So basically an avalanche, right? Yes

Absolutely, I would absolutely buy that you would you would buy that in daily that as an actual like your car buddy

I'm dailying a 2003 lx. No question me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like let's not pretend

Don't dare me Rob

And it was in a rare color. It was like riptide blue riptide blue. I saw like one ever

First thing I said to you is I would totally buy this because it was like what 12 grand

Yeah, something pretty low maybe 15 on the high end. I think 140 thousand miles on it

Like yeah, I couldn't if I was in the market. I couldn't buy that stuff quick enough

I mean two-door Tahoe's if I could come across a good one

95 Bronco, you know, I mean there's just ones that I just go right price like come on

Yeah, I'm kind of living in that world man

Like I sent Nick a link to a guy in north, Texas that eventually I'm just kind of next year

I'm going to reach out to him before that because he's just an interesting dude

And maybe because we're going to start doing as I've mentioned

Extra episodes maybe I haven't mentioned that maybe I have where we're going to have some guests on the show

And he's just doing it right man

Like if you want a truck like what's the equivalent of your lx right now if you were to buy like a modern car

Would it just be another lexus Toyota of that size?

Yeah, I mean you'd be still in the lx platform. Maybe I mean my gx is probably

Yeah, so but yeah, I mean you're right. You'd be

You know Tahoe

You know

You maybe could talk yourself into like the sequoia platform

That's one you don't see enough of I love me a sequoia. Well, I mean they're 90 grand

Everything's 90 grand these days though. But are you gonna pay 90 grand for a sequoia? Hell no

But by the way they have camouflage fender flares

Actually, those look cool. You don't like those. Yeah. Yeah, come on. Come on. You don't like those

Why why would I like them because they look cool? You're like this. I don't want you to see my fender flares

I want to blend them in you know, so ironically

You see nobody sees me. No, no, no, ironically you do see him because it like kind of sheen's and glares

Like oh, is that carbon? Is that just by the rain just by the ranger so I could have any of those jokes

God been fiber they look like

Camo

I do

Hey, if you've never owned one if you need a little truck go find yourself a good ranger with the four liter not the three liter

Preferably an older four liter as well. Those are really good. Half a million miles. No issues

The only thing that that happened was a catalytic converter got clogged up

Was just throwing smoke and I was like, oh my god the truck's on fire. I look under there. I was like, no

It's just needs to be replaced dirty

So you just went down to downtown houston said somebody steal this

Um, yeah, all you got to do is just park it. Hopefully they don't take the whole truck

But you know, yeah, yeah, just take the convert just put a sign on the side. Yeah, exactly

Oh, good times. Um, do you want to know what the suv of the year is according to motortrend?

Do you want to take a guess take a good guess?

Motortrend suv of the year got to be something electric for 2026

I'm not giving you hints man. Just you know, you know, you know, don't you don't just you don't just say things

Well

Electric cayenne. No

I'm gonna just go ahead and pull it up. You're not gonna get it

The Cadillac escalate iq

Oh, I should have said that that's a big miss by me. I know you spent some time with this thing

Yeah, yep, but but at least I knew motortrend's

mo was we're gonna make sure you

Love evs even though we know you don't buy them the disappointment in that we have we have a couple in my neighborhood

I think they kind of look

A little too tall in person. They do look okay

I know people are like, oh, it's one of the best designed suvs. Those people need to have their head examined, but

it's

It's a big vehicle

That the spacing doesn't feel right. I haven't I don't think I've been it. Have I been in the 26 or was it the 25?

I love the ipad pro that flips up here at the bottom

Nothing nothing says inventive like putting an ipad pro just in the middle of the console

That's part of it if you could take it out that'd be the best

Yeah, you can take it to work and draw on it and then put it back in your car

Yeah, for your design firm, you're gonna design on the way home put it in autopilot and then just keep drawing on your ipad

You're gonna work on fiverr and then get back in your escalate iq

Not even doing your own work anymore. I'd be interested to get in the back again

Because it's it was pretty bad. I don't know if they fixed any of that for any of you that have been in the 26. Let me know

Okay, it's it's a it's an suv escalate is always popular

I should have guessed this so let's let's take let's take an L for neck

That was I thought because it was the second year of it. Maybe I would

you know

Not happening they would go to another one who ever paid the biggest amount allegedly

Oh, man, that is just too funny. Uh, but hey, if you do enjoy it and you like it

I hope you enjoy it for more than yeah, no, I got I got a couple people in my neighborhood. They

Like them, you know, I mean

It weighs a lot and it's

Very limited on space for how big it is. So that's that's a strange reason to buy a three row

Good times good times. Okay. Would you like to for the last 50 minutes of the show or so go through the 2025 la auto show

best best of

I thought we were gonna go through your boys

Uh about the chevy yy gm has gone to

Collect everyone's data. I thought that was this week

I know it should have been this week guys

But between the hamilton and just black friday stuff we're doing I did not do it justice with but I will say

I'm we're still gonna do it. It's very clear to me. I said two things literally a year ago

One everything would be tokenized

Everything in cars subscription services, right? We're seeing more of that come together

And then when jeep started pulling up ads in your center console that would just randomly pop up for like coca-cola or whatever the hell

We talked about advertisements in your in your console, but remember it's all for safety rob all for safety when you get this big loud

Advertisement in your center console. It's just for safety. You know, that's that's that's all we do

We do all this text about safety. You don't get it 100% right

We were all dying left and right in the other 2000s with cars that didn't have this which by the way

I look at every time like a dodge stuff, man. I'm like god this interior was so bad back in the 2000s

But I can't like some of these cars, but that's for another story

And so now thirdly to wrap it up

We had the commercials and stuff on your on your dashes and shit and then all this other nonsense

But now it's fully come around that data is is the goal for all these companies. They're not making enough on the cars

Services going all to this electric, you know nonsense that people aren't buying

Um, they just want your info neck. They want to know where you go where you stop

Did you stop at the 7-11? Did you poop at the 7-11?

Did you buy a snack at the 7-11?

And they want to consume all that data through the cameras through the microphones through the screens in your car

Everyone across the board not just gm, but this gm. Applegate thing really did kind of set that ball in motion

So that's where that's where I gotta if you have anything to add to that

But that's where a lot of these stories and write-ups that our our listener had said. Yeah, I mean, I think this is what's interesting to talk about is

This to me the one thing always left out is

What does this play into the insurance of your car?

You know when your car is spying on you essentially

I mean, there's no other word to really use and it's doing it 24 7 and it knows how you use the brakes and I mean

The only logical thing here is the car companies selling this massive amount of data to state farm and all state

And you get into an accident. They're going to be able to subpoena the records or whatever comes of this

It doesn't feel like this is about safety

Not at all

Right and

That is the drum

These animals have been hitting

forever

meaning

The quote-unquote journalists

The quote-unquote executives the tech and the safety and tech and the safety

Cool

Why is this happening now if it was all about the safety?

Because it wasn't it wasn't really about just safety. It was doing things for the sake of doing things, which I think was the first thing

I think that was the first thing of all of this

They did it because they thought they could stack stack tech on tech on tech and sell the new buyer

The unseasoned buyer that tech was somehow going to make your life better

Tech stacking

It doesn't matter if it's your phone your computer

Or your car it has a limit

Yeah, so they've by far exceeded that limit many of you complain about the tech

I know just in my gx the binging and the dinging and all of the tech it's it's way overkill

So now they can't keep tech stacking and sell you

so they start selling this

cars safety and safety features and safety and safety

And now all of a sudden we're going to get rid of apple because we we're telling you it's about user interface

And everybody in the tech world is going

That's not true

This is what you're going to do with the data because this is what google does with the data and this is what apple does with the data

And this is what oracle does with the data

You guys aren't playing a different game. So now think of all the people who've carried the water for car companies

Saying tech was about safety. Tech was about making your life better. Tech this tech that

you've now

Been told the real story that tech is about spying on the people

Driving the car and again. I'm not saying all of that is from some big conspiracy

It's to sell you more products. It's to sell you another subscription. It's to know your habits

It's to sell those habits to this company and that company you brought up 7 11

Hey rob goes to 7 11 every morning before he goes to the job site

All of a sudden in your email box is all these 7 11 offers

All of the ads on your facebook is hey, come get a new monster energy drink at 7 11

Right like this is the game

And if it was all about safety

How did this even come up in the boardroom?

Do you remember the story of what I think it was uh, we'll call it the japan china what they did with burger king and traffic

No, so using geolocation. They encouraged buyers. There were some big billboards around this little hub of area

We'll call it maybe the strip by your shop where you just traffic always stacked up forever

Right, it literally you'd be in traffic sometimes for over an hour just in this one section got billboards

Encourage people to download the app because you'd get a really good deal on your first order

And then when they knew you would be stuck in that app

They would send out deals where they had a fleet of bicycle and scooter drivers. They would send you a whopper do it

And tuc tucs driving around exactly exactly and then they would give it was like a

We'll just call like a dollar 99 whopper meal whopper fries drink. There was no other choices

It was just that so using again back to the data the technology of where you are your location, right?

Are you likely to buy this?

What are you likely to buy when are you likely to be in traffic and want to eat?

You know you're hungry or whatever and dude their their revenue skyrocketed forever

It works

I mean

consumerism is the most universal thing globally. Yeah

and

I just don't think this is what a car company should be doing now. I understand revenue and I understand shareholders and I understand the world changes

What I don't ever

really

Get down with is when you tell me why you're doing something

And within a very short period of time it becomes clear that that wasn't really the goal at all

I'm not saying you're not trying to make cars more safe. Sure

Okay

That seems to be the afterthought though that just seems to be the byproduct of gathering this data because

all of the sudden if you were

Mary Barra at GM

and

Getting rid of apple was a safety thing for your user interface. You would have said that a thousand times in a 10 minute interview

That didn't really happen. It's true

Why because five years ago, that's what would have happened

She'd have been like you got to realize we're going to do these safety features and this is safer and that's safer

and this is safer and the crumple zone safer and these sensors help people and

kind of gone

overnight and her little

interviews about this

It's now well, you know, it's kind of clunky

What do you guys care about clunky? Your engines are blowing up

I

You're not you're not the foremost expert of non clunky stuff, you know, like doesn't make sense

There's more people that don't know about the intricacies of like the car world than those that do so

We'll say our audience, you know as big as it is is and is growing

It's still is nowhere near the amount of people that just don't know a lot about how cars have been put together

That all these conversations we're having about data and technology and safety

So when people say like these people aren't doing their jobs, we'll just use any big, you know, big wig at a company

They're actually doing exactly what their job is which is making their shareholders as much money as possible

Because there's way more people who are going to be gullible enough to just bite on the newest shinyest kind of thing

Which is great. I love consumerism. Love capitalism, but we can't fool ourselves

There's just there's never going to be enough people that know or understand how it works to want to kind of rail against it

honestly

Yeah, and and they're doing like you said

I mean if if your top shareholder says

You need to start doing this and you want to keep your job and not be booted from ceo, you're going to do it. Yeah

I mean, it's hard to find another 25 million dollar job paying that

I mean, you know with the prestige globally of being the head of a car company

There's a few things that when you're the executive of these types of kind

It's like being the executive of an oil company that's global being an executive of banks

Being an executive of investment firms being an executive of car companies. There's only so many of those jobs

Yeah, you know, it's sort of like getting into the mba or the nfl or major league baseball

There's a limited number of spots

So once you reach that height like jim farley, he's not going to be like, hey

I'm just going to go over to this upstart car company that has four dollars in the bank

Right like that's not what he's going to do. You know, he's a quote-unquote car guy

that's not going to happen and

What move could he make?

After he leaves for that would be a step up for him. It's a pretty small number

So shareholder comes up and goes

You need to start selling data. We own shares and these other companies

I've already talked to their boards and their executives. They could use it. We could sell it for this much money

Which by the way, if you think jim farley's putting those deals together

It's the shareholder big dogs that own shares and 50 different companies and go

We've already laid out who you guys are going to talk to so put this in the car and i'm not saying it's this brass or

You know this, you know right in your face, but make no mistake. That's the manipulation going on here is these shareholders that own

Part of state farm and they own part of all state and they own this and they own that and they own

The parent company to 7-eleven and you know, whatever the case may be

And they go these people would really like that data. Can you make that happen?

Absolutely say less and and and so you you bring up a good point

We all make jokes about mary borough or jim, you know farley or whoever

But they are playing to the crowd

That they have to play to to keep their job and that is the shareholder

And make no mistake mlb

I got to say this because you brought it up going into the lockout

We're going to see some of the craziest moves from players to teams

So if you like baseball follow me we'll talk baseball on the in the dms

It doesn't always have to be cars, you know, it can be but it didn't have to be

I do have to bring this up because we talked about genesis already

And we didn't I didn't bring up a picture of it

And I just wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't bring up the potential wing back

Right that this g90 g wagon or rather this g90, uh wagon. What are your thoughts on this one thoughts on looks good, right?

Looks good, but if I read it right

They didn't allude to the fact that this was

Like a production idea. Well, yeah, let's see. Yeah, jenesis might actually put the g90 wing back into production is what car and driver wrote

Yeah, I kind of I kind of read some other stuff from the unveiling that there was

Language at the unveiling that made people believe this was like a pure concept. I hope it's not

As a wagon fan looks great looks incredible

Genesis and I have to say this so people don't get mixed up. They do an awesome job on design

They have been for many many years now. It's not new

This is another one looks really good

I hope it makes it to production so we can see all the people that tell me they would buy one buy one

This is all about pricing. Yeah, this is this is a this is a six-figure wagon

We've stated before

You can't tell me people don't want wagons when all you build is a hundred and forty thousand dollar wagons

That's that's not I don't think we can make an assumption that nobody wants wagons

I think a very small percentage of people want 125 to 150 thousand dollar wagon

And this looks like that's what it's going to be 125 plus thousand dollars

I don't think it'll do well, but it looks great. It does look great

But as I'm reading here twin turbo charge v6 only making 300 75 horsepower. Hey, let's uh take it easy there

Bump it up some uh electric. Yeah, I mean what do you get an amg wagon? You're at what 500? Yeah easy

409 with an electric supercharger. All right, we need to rethink that everybody. Uh looks cool though. It looks fantastic

Um, I will say the the front of these genesis has always looked to me like they're going to be outdated in 12 months

They do have like a smite. You remember the old velocity channel. Yes. Oh, yeah that v

That's what the front looks like. Oh good one. Hey bravo. That was one. I didn't cut deep cut. Did not see that one bravo, sir

Yeah, all right. Yeah, you're right though. I don't know how that'll age. Yeah, it's not good unfortunately

Um, I'm gonna bring up one more thing just for funsies. Uh, we'll get into maybe some LA auto

We're not gonna bring up the fact that we're gonna get a new jeep every month. We're not bringing that up today

Well, I was gonna bleed with that on the LA auto show, but you know, I people would love to know here

Let me just show you actually real quick. We had time because it's friday everybody's everybody's relaxing everybody's chilling

Check this one out real quick. This is some of the greatest hits according to car car usa news

This is the jeep uh recon

Okay, all right

No, not a fan. I mean, it's I mean, it's something I mean how many more renegade how many how many more four door jeep products

Do I need?

Do you have I don't know all of them how much space you got like you're not gonna buy a two door

Yeah, I mean I had two door jeeps, but I mean I never owned a four door jeep in my life

I was a real jeep guy. Oh, he was a oh, okay. Sorry. I was a real truck guy. It's why I bought a 4.0 ranger

Let's keep that in mind. Okay a real truck guy

Um, this is what the renegade should have been um back in the day. By the way

Great color combo. Are you being serious because I do like this. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's a great color combo

Green green with any type of tan is an all-time gentleman spec

I will always take black over tan if I if I had the choice, but I do like the way this tan looks

Yeah, against that green looks great. Yeah, kind of baby diarrhea green, but it still looks really cool. Yes, it does

We already talking about trying to bash it, dude

Just subtly giving you jabs for your taste. We already talked about the tail you ride

I'm just gonna run through these the Hyundai the the crater. They got they got the kc bars like it's walker texas ranger over there

Now we're now we're talking about a real truck guy

When when walker texas ranger slid into a scene with that in that truck that dodge or that shed?

Got them lights on the top. Hell yeah, brother

Um this rogue plug-in hybrid. I mean rogue is gonna rogue

Yeah, looks good. Yeah, I mean for what it is

Lucid speaking of their their gravity touring here basically a Kia carnival with a

a lot of power

What a reference. I mean, it's what it is. It's a Kia car. I saw one in a parking garage at uh when I went to sema

Yeah, what'd you think? Kia carnival, right? Yeah, it's it's a it's a van

I'm gonna end with a van video. By the way, just keep that in mind. Keep that in the back of your head

Um, here's another little little blue Volkswagen bus that could man. That looks so good. I do like these

We've talked about these months and months ago. Um, they're so good get a dual motor one

If we could get it for like 40 grand, that's a hell of a car to have I gotta post a picture

I got a like a a green on white old school

Uh vw that we we take care of I gotta post that sometime. I gotta look to our pictures put it on the stories

Mustang maki california special it's so fun. I'm glad they did this because why not if you do california specials for the Mustang

You might as well do it for the Mustang EV

Yeah, I guess I mean just an appearance. I'm really kind of wondering

Uh, how maki and they sell a fair amount of them. Obviously they outsell the regular Mustang

Kind of curious what they're gonna do with this platform. Aren't you? Yeah, it feels like it's time to start

I don't want to say a full redesign, but I think they need to start

Thinking about what the next iteration of this is well lawsuits have already began with ford

Since they're scrapping the lightning and some a lot of their EV products

So they've got vendors already taken forward into the courtrooms for a contraction

I'm gonna be able to basically commit to I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest

Do you think ford gives a rip about a lawsuit? Oh, no

Jen is gonna be signing, you know papers

Are with jim far with a jim fallon rather. Hey, how about your boy?

With Toyota they're they're investing big in the us. Hey, I was gonna you know what that's too big of a story to give

Right now. I was gonna bring it up. But yeah, he was all he was uh, he was all trumped out at the at a NASCAR event

People were not happy with him in the comments

I'll tell you that speaking of another guy that doesn't give a rip what you think dude

I like america. All right, cool. We like you too. Thank you America

America allows me to sell

$78,000 tundra's I can I love this place. Toyota love america

100% you would too if you owned Toyota hundred percent. I don't know what this is. Is this uh, a filo one

A feel like I'm I feel like I'm most is like answering the phone. I'm looking for a feeling

They got the usc

Fight on on the front. So it's got the usc look to it. Mm-hmm

A filo. Yeah, I'm looking for a filo a filo one

Yeah, this is the sony and honda thing. Oh, that's right. I just saw that here sony honda

That was that was short lived for a little bit, but I guess it's back

Yeah, always been priced improperly always been priced. What do you expect from sony and honda?

Yeah, well, you go try to buy sony anything. You're like, you do realize like there's a lot of options now

It's very funny. All right. Um, we're gonna land the plan with this video that unfortunately if you're watching on youtube

I can't play the audio so you're gonna miss this. Uh, but if you're listening on the podcast version of it

You can you can be able to hear this check this out, nick

Uh, let me just lower the volume here. Hopefully

Welcome to the Chevy Astro interior

Had this up way quicker. What?

You heard me. I didn't share it. My bad. My fault. My bad g

Boom, there we go. Welcome to the Chevy Astro interior

Nothing ever got to me

No matter how comfortable it looks it never forgets that it's a Chevy truck

Astro from Chevrolet

Dude and the caption is imagine a bigger moment than this for a dad in 1998

Hey, that like a rock just still hits. Why don't they just bring it back?

I'm saying we need to be bringing a lot of stuff back and with clutch culture and in our audience

We hope to do that in the next in the new year. They got to bring it back. It just works

Oh, it's so good. I laughed so hard when somebody sent me this video

I was like, I can imagine you like if you had a family you were 1998

You're like, what do we what do we bind as our next family vehicle?

Have you seen those new vans by a general motive? Have you seen the suburban's? Yeah, have you seen the

Honestly, any of them we've talked about it before. Have you ever have you changed your mind safari astro?

You know all of the different vans from the time

No, no, no, I'm

I would love we we tried to promote one of our first videos. Remember that low mileage astro

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Low miles. I mean you and I were like

Who's not buying this which it seems like they are people are buying them because they kind of rotate a lot of those vehicles

That we talked about early on in the show and people that seem to be scooping. Yeah, and it

Remember the context of it is everybody was talking about how expensive everything is and we saw like a 30,000 mile

Astro van and it was like 10 grand. Yeah, it's like, I don't know man. Just get that

Like it's still cool. Yeah, like I don't care if you don't think it's cool. I think it's cool

Geez that got really aggressive

Okay on that note on that note, do not forget it is black friday coming up cyber monday 15 off hyper clean store.com

We uh, we'll leave we'll leave you with this. Maybe we can talk about it by this time next week or at least in early december

We've got a really cool partner on board. All right. We're finishing the year very strong

We had a great call. We basically did a podcast before the podcast today. So my juices are high

I'm glad i'm hope nick nicks juices are just as high because we're accomplishing what we set out to accomplish

It's been a surely but surely

Slowly but surely steady kind of uh

Operation so do you want to add to that because I know we're both making moves in those directions

But it's taking longer than I think we both thought it would

Yeah, we have a lot of respect of who we want to do business with but you know

A lot of content creators have really burned some brands like when you hear stories and you're on these phone calls you realize

A lot of the things you guys have seen in the automotive world

Especially content creation is people didn't deliver on a lot of promises

Maybe even fleece some of these brands in some ways that were you know

We're very very very very below board

Um, so we're having to kind of clean up on aisle five so to speak

You know all of this kind of thing, but we have a partner on the lx that video is getting edited

unbelievable

Couldn't have been easier to work with you guys will probably be here in an interview

Obviously, I'll be seeing the video. We got a call we did today with something that's shop related

We are trying our best

To bring things we believe in to you guys so you guys can see them and also see them from a lens of

Hey, man, we like this stuff

You know, it's not just about getting stuff

It's like do I like this because if I didn't like it we just tell you we don't like it

Like we don't make the promises that everybody thinks it's hey, we think you have good stuff

If it arrives and it's not good stuff, then we're gonna say that we we're not gonna put

You know our reputation on the line, but i'm really excited about all the cool stuff we have in the works

But it is taking longer. I mean, I thought this would be a much easier thing

Especially with the amount of views we get and the way we kind of are and our professionalism and business

But I understand man brands have been burned. Yeah, it's been interesting time this year and in the economy and going into next year

So hyperconsort.com again go get you some of the best car care in the united states made in the united states

And we'll see everybody next week after Thanksgiving. See you guys

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