Exploring the nuances of automotive sales language, this episode dives into the pitfalls of common phrases like 'original paint' and 'fully documented.' Hosts Alex and Beck share personal anecdotes and frustrations about sellers' tendencies to exaggerate or misrepresent their vehicles. They emphasize the importance of transparency and honesty in car listings, advocating for a shift towards clear, factual descriptions. The conversation also touches on the evolving nature of car photography and the significance of context in selling cars effectively.
Alex and Beck spend some time catching up before moving on to a favorite subject at BaT: why we write the way we do. Topics range from the joys of using a vehicle for what it's for, the Sierra, the ski resort duopoly, transportation conundrums, Porsche shop updates, NSX pipe dreams, the true cost of the ultimate BaT photo gallery, and open bars at school auctions. Then, to the meat of the matter: fluffy marketing phrases we don't use at BaT, and why. They discuss the power of saying "I don't know," paint meter usage, the "squishy" terms of the car world, how the listing process works behind the scenes,  the ethics and the judgment that define BaT style, and why transparency from the start is always the best idea.
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"enjoyable to like actually then get to express it to daily drive a truck like that is just so de..."
The Chevrolet Express is a big van that can carry a lot of stuff or people, making it great for businesses or families who need extra space. It's built to be strong and can be used for many different purposes, which is why people like to talk about it. It's a practical choice if you need a vehicle that can handle heavy loads.
The Chevrolet Express is a full-size van that is often used for commercial purposes, such as transporting goods or people. Known for its spacious interior and robust build, it offers a variety of configurations to suit different needs, making it a popular choice for businesses and families alike. Discussions around the Express often focus on its practicality and reliability as a workhorse vehicle.
"...is your xter supercharged not supercharged uh it's the pro 4X do you miss that up..."
The Nissan Xterra Pro-4X is a tough SUV designed for off-road driving. It has special features that help it handle rough terrain better than regular SUVs.
The Nissan Xterra Pro-4X is an off-road-oriented variant of the Xterra SUV, known for its rugged design and capabilities. It features enhancements for off-road performance, making it popular among outdoor enthusiasts.
"...is your xter supercharged not supercharged uh it's the pro 4X..."
A supercharger is a part that helps an engine get more air, which helps it produce more power. It's like giving the engine a boost to make it stronger.
A supercharger is a device that forces more air into the engine's combustion chamber, allowing it to burn more fuel and produce more power. This is often used to enhance performance in vehicles.
"...but at the same time those things have great torque that 4 L V6..."
Torque is a way to measure how strong an engine is when it turns. It helps the car speed up and pull heavy things.
Torque is a measure of rotational force in an engine, indicating how much power is available to turn the wheels. It is crucial for acceleration and towing capabilities.
All-wheel drive means that the car can send power to all four wheels at the same time, which helps it stay stable and grip the road better in different weather conditions.
All-wheel drive (AWD) is a system that automatically distributes power to all four wheels of a vehicle, improving traction and stability in various driving conditions, such as rain or snow.
"...switch into four-wheel drive Center locking and rear locking no front locking high and low high and low great..."
Four-wheel drive means that power goes to all four wheels of the car, which helps it grip better on slippery or rough surfaces, like snow or dirt.
Four-wheel drive (4WD) is a drivetrain configuration that allows all four wheels of a vehicle to receive power from the engine simultaneously, enhancing traction on challenging surfaces like snow or off-road terrain.
"...and you're getting something done to the SC too 911 right yeah so I did a big engine build on it when I bought the car off my dad a long time ago now and"
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that has been around for many years. It's known for its unique shape and powerful performance.
The Porsche 911 is a high-performance sports car known for its distinctive design and rear-engine layout. It has been in production since 1964 and has undergone numerous updates and improvements over the years.
"...there's also issue right California it's a 78 car so 76 and newer needs to have Visual and a sniff test done on it..."
California has tough rules to keep the air clean, which means older cars have to pass special tests to make sure they aren't polluting too much. This can affect how you modify or repair them.
California has some of the strictest emissions regulations in the United States, requiring vehicles to meet specific standards for air quality. This includes visual inspections and emissions tests for older vehicles to ensure they comply with current environmental laws.
"...that's got a secondary air injection system which basically just..."
This system helps cars produce fewer harmful gases by adding air to the exhaust, which helps burn off leftover fuel. It's important for cars to pass emissions tests.
A secondary air injection system is designed to reduce emissions by injecting air into the exhaust stream, helping to burn off unburned fuel in the catalytic converter. This system is often used in vehicles to meet stricter emissions regulations.
"...but really what it does is just preheats the Cadillac converter faster so it's working better at temp..."
A catalytic converter is a part of the car's exhaust system that helps clean up the gases that come out of the engine, making them less harmful to the environment.
A catalytic converter is an emissions control device that converts harmful gases from the engine into less harmful emissions before they exit the exhaust system. It plays a crucial role in reducing air pollution.
"...the car is now going to be registered in a zip code or actually an area code of California that won't need that anymore that's how I do the 912E same program however news there is a"
The Porsche 912E is a special version of the Porsche 912 that was made to comply with new environmental rules. It has a different engine that helps it use fuel more efficiently.
The Porsche 912E is a variant of the Porsche 912, produced in 1976. It was designed to meet stricter emissions regulations and featured a fuel-injected engine for better efficiency.
"...I really would like a 77 308 GTB as you know and like that those quad C that's never gonna pass..."
The Ferrari 308 GTB is a famous sports car made by Ferrari in the late 1970s. It's known for its sleek design and powerful engine, making it a sought-after collector's item.
The Ferrari 308 GTB is a classic sports car produced by Ferrari from 1975 to 1985. It features a mid-engine layout and is known for its distinctive styling and performance.
"...the car and say no correct they don't want to do it NSX same problem for even that new..."
The Acura NSX is a sports car that is famous for being fast and using advanced technology. It's designed to be very fun to drive.
The Acura NSX is a mid-engine sports car known for its performance and innovative technology, including its use of lightweight materials and hybrid variants in later generations.
"...it's I think it's is it OBD2 it's around 2000 you can just plug the car in..."
OBD2 is a system in cars that helps mechanics check how well the car is running and if it meets pollution standards. It makes it easier to find problems with the car.
OBD2 stands for On-Board Diagnostics II, a standardized system that allows vehicles to communicate their performance and emissions data to diagnostic tools. It was introduced in the mid-1990s and is used in most cars manufactured after 1996.
"2000 you can just plug the car in the GT3 which is an ' 05 is just a plug in so they don't ..."
The Porsche 911 GT3 is a super-fast sports car that many people love because it can be driven on regular roads but also performs really well on racetracks. It has a powerful engine and is designed to be lightweight, which helps it go really fast and handle well. People talk about it because it's one of the best cars for driving enthusiasts.
The Porsche 911 GT3 is a high-performance variant of the iconic 911 sports car, known for its track-focused design and exceptional driving dynamics. It features a naturally aspirated engine, lightweight construction, and advanced aerodynamics, making it a favorite among enthusiasts and racers alike. The GT3 represents the pinnacle of Porsche's engineering and is often discussed for its blend of everyday usability and extreme performance.
"...it's a Targa and it's the original roof and it's never been redone at least like the outer material has been redone but it's never been refitted..."
The Porsche Targa is a type of car that has a special roof design that can be removed. This makes it feel like a convertible but still keeps some of the structure of a regular car. The speaker mentions that the roof is original, which can be important for its condition.
The Porsche Targa is a model known for its distinctive removable roof panel and rear window, combining elements of both coupe and convertible designs. This particular Targa is mentioned as having its original roof and gaskets, which can affect its performance and integrity.
"...the gaskets are original and so got a little bit of leakage but like not a ton..."
Gaskets are like rubber seals that help keep things from leaking in a car. If they are old, like the ones mentioned here, they might not work as well and could cause leaks.
Gaskets are seals used to prevent leaks between two surfaces in a car, such as between the roof and the body of the car. Original gaskets can wear out over time, leading to potential leaks, as mentioned in this context.
"GT3 back so I can get more stuff done to it it's good you're not quite in this mode because you don't have the room..."
The Porsche GT3 is a special version of the Porsche 911 designed for racing and high performance. It has a powerful engine and is built to be very fast and agile on the track.
The Porsche GT3 is a high-performance variant of the Porsche 911, known for its track-focused design and powerful naturally aspirated engine. It features enhancements in aerodynamics, suspension, and weight reduction, making it a favorite among driving enthusiasts.
"911r one of our top sellers who's famous for their photography is selling the car"
The Porsche 911 R is a special version of the 911 sports car that is lighter and designed for a more engaging driving experience. It's very popular among car enthusiasts.
The Porsche 911 R is a limited-edition variant of the iconic 911 sports car, known for its lightweight construction and focus on driving purity. It features a naturally aspirated engine and is highly sought after by collectors.
"...you're not selling your buddies E30 anymore you're selling a client's you in park for these photos something happens..."
The BMW E30 is a popular version of the BMW 3 Series that was made in the 1980s and early 1990s. It's loved by many car fans for its style and driving experience.
The BMW E30 is a model of the 3 Series produced from 1982 to 1994, known for its classic design and performance. It has a strong following among car enthusiasts and is often sought after for restoration and modification.
"...we're afraid of a car's history that we don't know correct and so we put a value of..."
Car history is the background of a car, like who owned it before, if it was in any accidents, or if it had repairs. Knowing this helps people decide how much the car is worth.
Car history refers to the record of a vehicle's past, including ownership, accidents, repairs, and maintenance. Understanding a car's history is crucial for assessing its value and condition.
"...if it's considered original paint that means there's less likelihood of stories associated to the car whether it's had damage or whatever..."
Original paint is the paint that was put on the car when it was first made. If a car still has its original paint, it usually means it hasn't been repaired or repainted, which can make it more valuable.
Original paint refers to the factory paint applied to a car when it was manufactured. Cars with original paint are often valued higher because they are perceived to have less risk of hidden damage or repairs that could affect their history and value.
"paint meters is what came up was one thing that we include in our White Glove photo shoots whenever we can phographer is equipped and if it matters for the car right it doesn't matter for all cars but this was a late model sports car..."
A paint meter checks how thick the paint is on a car. This is useful to see if the car has been repainted or repaired, which can affect its value.
A paint meter is a tool used to measure the thickness of paint on a vehicle's surface. This measurement can help assess whether the car has been repainted or if there are any hidden repairs, which is important for evaluating the vehicle's condition.
"bring a trailer is the most public place to list your car that record is going to be out there so even if your reserve protects you if you're trying to sell the car elsewhere..."
Bring a Trailer is a website where people can sell and buy cars, especially classic and unique ones. It's known for being a trustworthy place to find cars because it keeps records of all listings.
Bring a Trailer is an online auction platform where users can buy and sell classic and enthusiast cars. It has gained popularity for its transparency and community-driven approach to car sales.
"...moving into the restoration world I mean the word Restoration in general is a whole another podcast we tend to use refurbishment or refresh which like you"
Restoration is when you fix up an old car to make it look and work like it did when it was new. It can involve a lot of work, like repairing parts and painting the car.
Restoration refers to the process of returning a vehicle to its original condition, often involving extensive repairs and refurbishments. This can include everything from mechanical work to cosmetic updates, ensuring the car looks and functions as it did when it was first built.
"...my least favorite phrase is probably nut and bolt restored it do I know I'm diving right into the deep end with that..."
Nut and bolt restoration means taking a car apart completely and fixing everything to make it look and work like new. It's a very detailed way to restore a car.
Nut and bolt restoration refers to a thorough process where every component of a vehicle is disassembled, inspected, and restored to like-new condition. This often includes replacing or refurbishing all parts, ensuring that the car is in top shape mechanically and aesthetically.
"cuz I don't know what it means like people say it for cars that are unibody which is like my favorite where it's like there is no frame to take off"
Unibody means that the car's body and frame are all one piece. This makes the car lighter and stronger, but it means you can't easily take the body off like you can with older cars that have separate frames.
Unibody construction is a method where the body and frame of a vehicle are integrated into a single structure. This design is common in modern cars, providing strength and reducing weight, but it limits the ability to perform frame-off restorations.
"...the nuts and bolts off the suspension got them replated in the East thing you can do them back on..."
The suspension is what helps the car's wheels move up and down smoothly over bumps and keeps the car stable while driving.
Suspension refers to the system of springs, shock absorbers, and linkages that connects a vehicle to its wheels. It plays a crucial role in vehicle handling, ride comfort, and stability.
"...even these cars that are now you know $50 million plus they're intended to be race cars or to be used and they were built in little shop where..."
The Ferrari 250 GTO is a famous race car from the 1960s that is very rare and expensive. It's known for its performance and history in racing, making it a collector's dream.
The Ferrari 250 GTO is a highly sought-after classic sports car known for its racing pedigree and limited production. It is often regarded as one of the most valuable cars in the world, with prices exceeding $50 million at auctions.
"...he knows what the VIN means in terms of the year..."
A VIN is like a car's fingerprint. It's a special number that helps you know exactly what kind of car it is and when it was made.
VIN stands for Vehicle Identification Number, a unique code used to identify individual motor vehicles. It provides information about the car's make, model, year, and place of manufacture.
"the odometer doesn't matter as much as the condition of the car because there's"
An odometer is a tool in cars that counts how far the car has driven. It helps people know how much the car has been used.
An odometer is a device in a vehicle that measures the distance traveled. It's often used to determine the car's usage and can affect its resale value.
"...or they're not going to be driven right like what we had the GNX is back at I wrote the 88 mile GNX listing..."
The Buick GNX is a special version of a Buick car made in the late 1980s. It was designed to be very fast and is now considered rare and valuable.
The Buick GNX is a high-performance version of the Buick Regal, produced in 1987. It is known for its turbocharged V6 engine and limited production, making it a sought-after collector's item.
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