What makes the Porsche 911 so cool? Betim, Vinny and Scotto debate why the 911 is so special. VV010
About this episode
A lively debate unfolds as Betim, Vinny, and Scotto explore the enduring appeal of the Porsche 911. With personal anecdotes and insights, they discuss whether Porsches are still considered cool and the significance behind their iconic status. Vinny shares a thrilling story about a high-speed spin in Project Evo, a modified 993, while the trio reflects on their own journeys with Porsches and the culture surrounding them. The conversation is both passionate and humorous, inviting listeners to consider their own views on the legendary 911.
It’s a pork Porsche-fest this week on VERY VEHICULAR! Scotto is joined by Betim Berisha (of BBi Autosport) and returning friend and regular: Vin Anatra, still licking the fresh wounds of having sold his GT3 RS. This episode had a clear objective, to answer the question: are Porsches still cool… and does it even matter? There’s plenty of wisdom and insight on hand for you to feast on this week, plus a generous dose of shit-talking to help you wash it all down. Will they manage to answer the question? Will they manage to stay on track, literally or figuratively? Will they manage a pod-lap-time under 2 hours? Stay tuned to find out. Enjoy!
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00:00 - Introduction and Today's Topic: Are Porsches Still Cool?
02:01 - Spinning Project Evo at 130+ mph
04:08 - Sponsors: Vyper Industrial, Heat Wave & Wera Tools
12:22 - The Evolution of Porsche and Driving Dynamics
24:35 - Peak Porsche Prices
41:39 - Vin’s First Time Taking a Porsche to the Track
42:21 - Enthusiasts vs. Drivers
43:25 - Buying a 911: A Personal Story
44:33 - Sponsor: FCP Euro
46:07 - The Perfect Storm of Porsche Popularity
46:56 - The Rise of Air-Cooled 911s
47:37 - Porsche's Cultural Shift
49:31 - The Impact of Aftermarket Enthusiasts
53:22 - Driving Experience vs. Modern Technology
01:10:56 - Check out the Patreon!
01:11:51 - The Future of Porsche Enthusiasm
01:18:24 - Awkward Convertibles: the Bad, the Worse, and the Downright Ugly
01:24:38 - The Timeless Appeal of the Nine 11
01:44:25 - Driving Experience. Why a 911 Drives Like Nothing Else
01:49:48 - A Design Icon
01:54:29 - The Eames Chair of Cars
Porsche 911
"...whether you love nine elevens, whether you hate nine elevens, whether you think the whole nine 11 thing is over, listen to the three of us wax poetic on why the cars mean something special to us..."
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that many people admire for its speed and style. It's been around for a long time and has many different versions, each one getting better over the years.
The Porsche 911 is a legendary sports car known for its distinctive design and rear-engine layout. It has been in production since the early 1960s and has gone through several generations, each improving on performance and technology.
paddle shifted
"...it's a paddle shifted, 3.8 liter air cooled engine. So Sequential gear box, still air cooled."
Paddle shifting is a way to change gears in a car using levers behind the steering wheel. It lets you control the car's speed more easily without having to use a clutch pedal.
Paddle shifting refers to a system in which drivers can manually change gears using paddles located behind the steering wheel, allowing for quicker gear changes without taking their hands off the wheel. This is common in performance cars and enhances driving engagement.
sequential gearbox
"...So Sequential gear box, still air cooled."
A sequential gearbox is a type of transmission that lets you change gears in a straight line, making it faster and easier to shift. It's often used in race cars to help them go faster.
A sequential gearbox allows for quicker gear changes by using a lever or paddles to shift through gears in a specific order, rather than the traditional H-pattern of a manual transmission. This is common in racing applications for improved performance.
air cooled engine
"...3.8 liter air cooled engine. So Sequential gear box, still air cooled."
An air-cooled engine is a type of engine that cools itself using air instead of water. This makes it lighter and easier to maintain, which is why some classic cars use this type.
An air-cooled engine uses air to dissipate heat rather than relying on a liquid cooling system. This design is lighter and simpler, which is why it was popular in older sports cars like the Porsche 911.
Garrett
"Yeah, twin. Big old set of Garretts on it."
Garrett is a brand that makes turbochargers, which are parts that help car engines produce more power. Many performance cars use Garrett turbochargers to go faster.
Garrett is a well-known manufacturer of turbochargers, providing high-performance solutions for automotive applications. Their products are widely used in both street and racing cars to enhance engine performance.
twin turbo
"Yeah, twin. Big old set of Garretts on it."
Twin turbo means the car has two turbochargers that help the engine produce more power. This makes the car faster and improves its performance.
A twin turbo setup uses two turbochargers to increase engine power by forcing more air into the combustion chamber, resulting in higher performance. This is often found in high-performance vehicles to enhance acceleration and speed.
horsepower
"...it makes every bit of 840 horsepower."
Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. The higher the horsepower, the faster and stronger the car can be.
Horsepower is a unit of measurement for engine power. It indicates how much work an engine can perform over time, and is a key factor in determining a vehicle's performance and speed.
boost
"Boy skates are just doing everything they can to keep boost down."
Boost is extra air pressure that helps an engine run better and faster. It usually comes from a turbo or supercharger.
Boost refers to the increased air pressure in the engine's intake system, typically provided by a turbocharger or supercharger. Higher boost levels can lead to more power but can also increase the risk of engine knock if not managed properly.
traction control
"And TC is just, you could literally hear the traction control crying."
Traction control is a feature that helps a car keep its grip on the road when it's accelerating. It stops the wheels from spinning too much.
Traction control is a system in vehicles that helps prevent wheel spin during acceleration by adjusting engine power or applying brakes to individual wheels. It enhances stability and control, especially in slippery conditions.
Wera Tools
"...it's called the Zyklop, made by Wera Tools. If you haven't heard of them, they make premium tools that are highly over-engineered. Hardly surprising, they're German..."
Wera Tools is a company from Germany that makes very good hand tools, like wrenches and screwdrivers. They focus on making tools that are strong and easy to use.
Wera Tools is a German company known for producing high-quality hand tools, including ratchets and screwdrivers. Their tools are designed for durability and precision, often featuring innovative designs.
Vyper Industrial
"...Fortunately for me, I live in California. It hit AB the other day. Perfect timing to bust out my new Vyper Industrial fan. That's right. These guys make great stools, amazing creepers and fantastic tool cards..."
Vyper Industrial makes tools and equipment for garages and workshops, like fans and tool carts. They focus on creating high-quality products that are useful for working on cars.
Vyper Industrial is a company that manufactures various tools and equipment for automotive and industrial use, including fans, stools, and tool carts. They are known for their quality and functionality.
Apex
"...there's this big right hander complex, uh, that goes into, it's actually kind of cool. It tightens up at Apex and then it, and then it opens up into a break zone..."
The apex is the part of a turn where you want your car to be closest to the inside of the track. It's important for making sharp turns faster.
The apex is the point in a corner where the car is closest to the inside edge of the track. It is a critical point for optimizing speed and handling through a turn.
fifth gear
"...and then get back to throttle. Uh, ideally your fifth gear, you get a thing moved out down into fourth..."
Fifth gear is a higher gear in a car that helps it go faster while using less fuel. It's usually used when you're driving on highways.
Fifth gear is typically one of the higher gears in a car's transmission, used for cruising at higher speeds. It allows for better fuel efficiency and lower engine RPMs at high speeds.
going off track
"...Sanders's like, yeah, you went off track. A guy tried to. Uh, you know, you're kind of along for the ride there..."
Going off track means the car has left the road or racing surface, which can be dangerous and make it hard to control the car.
Going off track refers to a situation where a car leaves the designated racing surface, which can lead to loss of control or accidents. It is often a critical moment in motorsport.
Ford Mustang
"...eryone's background here. 'cause you started with Mustangs, right? Yeah, early on. Early on, uh, when I was ..."
The Ford Mustang is a popular sports car that has been around for a long time. It's known for being fast and stylish, and many people love it because it represents a fun and adventurous driving experience.
The Ford Mustang is an iconic American muscle car that has been in production since 1964. Known for its powerful performance and distinctive design, the Mustang represents the spirit of freedom and rebellion in American automotive culture, making it a frequent topic of discussion among car enthusiasts.
Porsche 930 Turbo
"I got to drive a nine 30 turbo once and I was just blown that was, that was game over."
The Porsche 930 Turbo is a special version of the 911 that has a turbocharger, making it faster and more powerful. It has a unique look with a big rear spoiler.
The Porsche 930 Turbo is the turbocharged variant of the 911, produced from 1975 to 1989. It is known for its powerful performance and distinctive 'whale tail' rear spoiler.
Porsche Boxster
"And then I got to drive a boxer, like a 9, 8, 6 boxer base model."
The Porsche Boxster is a small sports car with a convertible top, meaning you can drive it with the roof down. It's designed to be fun to drive and is often praised for its handling.
The Porsche Boxster is a mid-engine roadster that was first introduced in 1996. It is known for its sporty handling and open-top driving experience, making it a popular choice among enthusiasts.
Volkswagen GTI
"So like the progression you guys are talking about. I had a mark 3G TI with a VR six in it."
The Volkswagen GTI is a sporty version of the regular Golf car. The Mk3 is one of the older versions from the 1990s that many people enjoyed for its fun driving experience.
The Volkswagen GTI is a high-performance version of the Volkswagen Golf, known for its sporty characteristics and fun driving experience. The Mk3 generation was produced from 1992 to 1999 and featured a more refined design and improved performance.
VR6 engine
"I had a mark 3G TI with a VR six in it."
The VR6 engine is a special kind of engine made by Volkswagen that has a unique shape. It helps the car be powerful while taking up less space under the hood.
The VR6 engine is a type of internal combustion engine developed by Volkswagen. It features a narrow-angle V configuration, allowing it to be more compact while still providing strong performance.
Porsche 944
"...I had a 9 44, bought a 9 44 for 800 bucks when I was like 18, 19. So I can go SEC air acing with it. And I love the 9 44. That's a slept on car except the engines break."
The Porsche 944 is a sporty car made by Porsche that was popular in the 1980s and early 1990s. It's known for being fun to drive, but some of them have problems with their engines.
The Porsche 944 is a sports car produced by Porsche from 1982 to 1991. It is known for its balanced handling and front-engine layout, making it a popular choice among enthusiasts. However, some models have been noted for engine reliability issues.
Aston Martin Vantage V8
"I drove an Aston Martin Vantage V8 to go test drive in Old RS America."
The Aston Martin Vantage V8 is a fancy sports car that has a strong engine and looks really nice. It's designed for people who want a mix of speed and luxury.
The Aston Martin Vantage V8 is a luxury sports car known for its powerful V8 engine and elegant design. It combines performance with high-end features, making it a desirable choice for enthusiasts.
supercharger kit
"And by the way, the car was $20,000, 2009. Ouch. $20,000 Rs America. And it had a supercharger kit on it."
A supercharger kit is a device added to a car's engine to make it go faster by pushing more air into it. This helps the engine produce more power.
A supercharger kit is an aftermarket modification that forces more air into the engine, allowing it to produce more power. This can significantly enhance the performance of a vehicle.
lap time
"...I don't give a shit about my lap time. I, unless you're competing, I care about the driving experience."
Lap time is how long it takes a car to go around a racetrack once. It's used to see how fast a car can go and how good the driver is.
Lap time refers to the amount of time it takes for a car to complete one lap of a racetrack. It is a key measure of a car's performance and the driver's skill.
analog experience
"I think speed and, you know, horsepower and stuff eventually will plateau maybe. I don't know. But it's crazy that like the Evo project is what you want to do to get back at that."
An analog experience in cars means feeling more connected to the vehicle and the road, similar to how older cars felt. It's about having a driving experience that isn't overly influenced by technology.
An analog experience in cars refers to a driving feel that is more connected and less reliant on technology, often associated with older vehicles that provide direct feedback to the driver. This contrasts with modern cars that use advanced technology to enhance performance and comfort, sometimes at the expense of driver engagement.
V12 engine
"it's got a V 12 and it's hybrid isn't running like low nines outta the box"
A V12 engine has twelve cylinders and is known for being very powerful and smooth. It's often used in high-end sports cars.
A V12 engine is a twelve-cylinder internal combustion engine arranged in a V configuration. This type of engine is known for its smooth power delivery and high performance, often found in luxury and high-performance sports cars.
hybrid car
"it's got a V 12 and it's hybrid isn't running like low nines outta the box"
A hybrid car uses both a regular engine and an electric motor. This helps the car use less fuel and be better for the environment.
A hybrid car combines a traditional internal combustion engine with an electric motor to improve fuel efficiency and reduce emissions. This technology allows for better performance and can provide a more environmentally friendly driving option.
street legal
"...I want a race car. But I want it to be street legal and kind of comfortable. Like everyone wants the same shit."
Street legal means the car is allowed to be driven on regular roads. It has to follow certain rules to be safe and not pollute too much.
A street legal car is one that meets the legal requirements to be driven on public roads. This includes compliance with safety and emissions regulations set by local governments.
race car
"...I want a race car. But I want it to be street legal and kind of comfortable. Like everyone wants the same shit."
A race car is built to go really fast and win races. It's not usually comfortable for everyday driving like regular cars.
A race car is a vehicle specifically designed for competitive racing, focusing on speed, handling, and performance rather than comfort or practicality.
Lotus Amira
"yeah, the Amira, was it Amira?"
The Lotus Emira is a new sports car that is designed to be lightweight and fast. It's made for people who love driving and want a car that feels exciting on the road.
The Lotus Emira is a sports car introduced in 2021, representing a new era for the brand with a focus on modern design and performance. It combines lightweight construction with powerful engines, making it a topic of interest for enthusiasts looking for a pure driving experience.
NVH
"they deleted all the NVH out of it otherwise."
NVH means how much noise and vibration you feel in a car. Lower NVH usually means a quieter and smoother ride.
NVH stands for Noise, Vibration, and Harshness. It's a measure of how much noise and vibration a vehicle produces, affecting the overall comfort and driving experience.
chassis
"...the chassis was way too smooth. Mm-hmm. So you almost felt like you had these two like inputs that were like. Analog and then the rest was like silk..."
The chassis is the main structure of a car that holds everything together, like the body and the wheels. A good chassis helps the car handle better on the road.
The chassis is the base frame of a vehicle that supports the body and components, including the suspension and drivetrain. A well-designed chassis contributes to the vehicle's handling and ride quality.
Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
"I've driven countless cars on track. I've driven race cars, I've driven production cars. The ZR1 made me wanna throw up while driving."
The Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 is a super-fast sports car that has a lot of power. It's built for racing and can go really fast, which can be overwhelming for some drivers.
The Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 is a high-performance variant of the Corvette sports car, known for its powerful engine and advanced technology. It is designed for both street and track performance, making it one of the most capable Corvettes ever produced.
BMW M5
"I drove the new M5 in whatever, 2008, 2009 at Road America. Like flat out, flat out like no helmet..."
The BMW M5 is a fast and powerful car that's designed for performance. The 2008-2009 version is known for having a really strong engine and sporty features.
The BMW M5 is a high-performance version of the BMW 5 Series, known for its powerful engine, sporty handling, and luxury features. The 2008-2009 model is part of the E60 generation, which is notable for its V10 engine and advanced technology.
BMW E28
"they're fashion el it's a fashion element and you enjoy other pieces of it, of course. But if you like, if you just like a car to be an accessory. Yeah. Nine elevens are sort of played. 'cause it's like for this, for 80,000 bucks to buy a G body to, you know, to look cool. You could buy a E 28 5 series, you could buy a one 90 E, you could buy a 500 e, you can buy countless other really cool vintage cars to look interesting. Right. But once you get into the driving dynamics saying it's not cool, it's blasphemy. Yeah, it's, that's insane. It's"
The BMW 5 Series is a larger luxury car that is comfortable and stylish. It's a good choice for people who want a nice car for both work and leisure, offering a smooth ride and plenty of features.
The BMW 5 Series is a mid-size luxury sedan that has been a benchmark in its class since 1972. Known for its blend of performance, comfort, and advanced technology, it often represents the ideal balance for both business and personal use.
Ferrari 360
"...on one of, uh, Vinny's episodes to talk about the Ferrari 360 and I said the difference between the two is that..."
The Ferrari 360 is a beautiful sports car that is very fast and exciting to drive. It's popular among car lovers because of its stylish look and the thrill it offers behind the wheel.
The Ferrari 360 is a mid-engine sports car produced from 1999 to 2005, known for its stunning design and exhilarating performance. It is often discussed for its role in making Ferrari more accessible to a broader audience while maintaining the brand's racing heritage.
BMW E30
"but still, fundamentally at 9, 6 4 to me is still. A 25, 30,000 car. Totally. Like when, you know what I mean? No. Well, I mean, Vinny had this great line about E 30 sixes and he said an E 36 is like a $6,000 experience. Mm-hmm. That was Matt Fara, but I supported a hundred percent."
The BMW 3 Series is a small luxury car that many people enjoy for its smooth ride and stylish look. It's known for being fun to drive and has a reputation for being a good choice if you want a mix of comfort and performance.
The BMW 3 Series is a compact executive car that has been a staple of the BMW lineup since 1975. Renowned for its balance of performance, luxury, and technology, it often serves as a benchmark for other cars in its class.
Audi 200
"...e were interested. The car in question is my 1991 Audi 200 Avant 20 Valve turbo. The problem is it just does..."
The Audi 200 is a luxury car that was made in the 1980s and 1990s. It's known for being well-built and comfortable, and some people still appreciate it for its classic design.
The Audi 200 is a mid-size luxury car produced from the 1980s to the early 1990s, known for its advanced engineering and performance. It is often discussed among enthusiasts for its unique blend of luxury and technology during its era.
Porsche Cayenne
"...his era where it's like they cared more about the Cayenne and the Panama than they did about their sports c..."
The Porsche Cayenne is a fancy SUV that offers both space for passengers and a sporty driving experience. It's popular among those who want a luxury vehicle that can handle different types of roads while still being fun to drive.
The Porsche Cayenne is a luxury SUV that combines Porsche's performance heritage with the practicality of an SUV. Launched in 2002, it has played a significant role in expanding Porsche's market and profitability, often sparking discussions about the brand's evolution.
Porsche Career Gt
"Of course. I mean, sorry, the career gt the gt. Right. Like all of these things, like all..."
The Porsche Carrera GT is a super-fast sports car that is very rare and special. It's known for its incredible speed and performance, making it a dream car for many car lovers.
The Porsche Carrera GT is a high-performance supercar produced from 2004 to 2007, known for its exceptional engineering and driving dynamics. With a limited production run and a powerful V10 engine, it is often discussed as one of Porsche's most iconic models.
Porsche Cayman
"... said, oh, you can drive a boxer, you can drive a Cayman, you know, and I said, no, no, no. We wanna drive..."
The Porsche Cayman is a sporty car that is designed to be fun to drive. It has a sleek look and is known for being very responsive on the road, making it a great choice for people who love driving.
The Porsche Cayman is a mid-engine sports coupe that offers a balance of performance and everyday usability. Introduced in 2006, it is often praised for its handling and driving dynamics, making it a favorite among driving enthusiasts.
BMW M2
"Well, like even in Evo, Evo makes 800 horsepower when we got it yanked up, maybe seven 40 when I was driving it. That is so, so, so much car. But here's the thing, it's not really the fastest car out there. No. It's, it's very, very engaging. It's very like, and that's what I'm after I'm after, I'm after that feeling that this car requires your attention and it requires your respect. And it doesn't matter. It could be a G Body at 150 horsepower and a Canyon road. Yeah. Or it could be 800 horsepower paddle shifted Evo. But I want that feeling that I get when I downhill ski or mountain bike or shift a cart. You know where other people, yoga, meditation, they get that same singularly focused. Yeah. Met, you know, you get out, you're just like, oh, I needed, that's why the, the, the, the focus required to drive cars is probably why a lot of these kids are just like driving their cars off Angeles Crest. 'cause like you get G 87 M two and you're like, I don't need to do shit. And then you're just doing a hundred on a decreasing radius corner and you're like, and you just pilot. Yeah, exactly. So like the level of respect that you have to have for a vehicle that. Can bite you."
The BMW M2 is a sporty version of a smaller BMW car that is built for speed and fun driving. It's popular among car enthusiasts because it offers a thrilling experience on the road.
The BMW M2 is a high-performance variant of the 2 Series, launched in 2016, known for its agile handling and powerful engine. It has quickly gained a reputation as a driver's car, often discussed for its balance of everyday usability and track-ready performance.
Volkswagen Beetle
"...ible. Nine 11 is just a weird shape to me. So are beetles by the way. You know what's also a really bad con..."
The Volkswagen Beetle is a small, round car that many people recognize for its cute design. It's been around for a long time and is loved for its quirky style and fun driving experience.
The Volkswagen Beetle is a classic car that has become a cultural icon since its introduction in the 1930s. Known for its unique shape and friendly design, it has a rich history and is often discussed for its impact on automotive culture.
Audi TTS
"...that make any convertibles? TT doesn't count. The tts a convertible. They do make it, yeah. It's like a..."
The Audi TTS is a sportier version of a small Audi car that is fun to drive. It's stylish and has a powerful engine, making it a great option for people who want a mix of luxury and performance.
The Audi TTS is a sporty version of the Audi TT, known for its performance-oriented features and distinctive design. It offers a blend of luxury and sportiness, making it a popular choice among those looking for a compact yet powerful coupe.
Mercedes-Benz SL
"like a SOB nine three. Yeah. Yeah. Or a Mercedes sl. The one good use for cabs is to give them to TJ ..."
The Mercedes-Benz SL is a fancy convertible car that looks great and drives smoothly. It's known for being a high-end vehicle that combines luxury with sporty performance.
The Mercedes-Benz SL is a luxury roadster that has been a symbol of elegance and performance since its introduction in the 1950s. Known for its retractable hardtop and powerful engines, it often represents the pinnacle of luxury sports cars.
Ferrari F40
"But you just sold yours. Yeah. Yeah. But for a, for a business reason and I think like, you know, we had talked about, uh, my dealership and how to do it with content. I think like the red thread for like long-term viewership is my fucking goal is to get an F 40. Like I've had it in my bio forever that it's paperclip to F 40 and the goal of the dealership. What is an F 40 cost today?"
The Ferrari F40 is a famous sports car that is known for being very fast and powerful. It's a collector's item because of its unique design and the fact that it was made by one of the most famous car brands in the world.
The Ferrari F40 is a legendary supercar that was produced from 1987 to 1992, celebrated for its raw performance and minimalist design. As one of the last models personally approved by Enzo Ferrari, it holds a significant place in automotive history.
Volkswagen Golf
"80. In 80. Your Volkswagen Golf, which is a VR six is faster than the sc. Yeah."
The Volkswagen Golf is a small car that is easy to drive and has a lot of space inside. It's popular because it's reliable and works well for everyday use, whether you're commuting or running errands.
The Volkswagen Golf is a compact hatchback that has been a best-seller since its launch in 1974. Known for its practicality, efficiency, and engaging driving experience, it is often highlighted as a versatile choice for various drivers.
Scion Frs
"...nstream. It's not like saying, you know, the, the Scion FRS is now cool. It's like, well that's only based on..."
The Scion FR-S is a small sports car that is fun to drive and easy to handle. It's made for people who enjoy a sporty experience on the road without needing a lot of extra features.
The Scion FR-S, now known as the Toyota 86, is a compact sports car that was introduced in 2012, designed for driving enthusiasts. It is celebrated for its lightweight design and rear-wheel-drive layout, making it a popular choice among those seeking an engaging driving experience.
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