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Now here is the Under the Hood Show podcast. This is Under the Hood. Welcome to the Under the Hood

Show. We are glad to have you with us. Russ Evans is here to answer your automotive questions.

Thanks for joining us Under the Hood. Shannon Nordstrom is here to do the same.

Welcome hoodies. Thanks for tuning in so we can help you tune up. I'm Chris Carter here to answer

your calls at 866-594-4150. I've never seen you time anything as perfect as you just timed that

even though you've come in before at the last minute. This time you were here, you were ready,

but you did not. There's a part of me that thinks everything has to be done last minute

or you're wasting time. You were right there. I don't know. It's just so weird. It's a problem.

It's a problem. Hey Chris, I have to tell you something that I saw this morning and I have

a picture of it on my phone. Oh no. And it made me think of you. And it also made me realize

this is the two most or maybe three iconic, ironic placements of vehicles we've had in our

unloading area in a row together. Here's what they were. Okay. I saw the picture. An Aztec.

Okay. I didn't see that. Just ahead of the Aztec. The most innovative vehicle of all time. Just

what I thought it was. And just ahead of that is a 71 Ford F100. Oh wow.

Now how do you look at the picture and not see anything but that yellow car? Wow. I really

didn't see anything. Because I told, I asked you to look at the yellow car. No, I thought it said.

I said, what's the yellow car? So your brain was already broken. Oh wow. I didn't even see the

other ones. I have to look back at the picture and see if they were in though because I kind of

zoomed in. But no, they were everything in there. But no, that's so to have that in a row. Wow.

An Aztec, a TC by Maserati and an F100. And I know what I'm only going to do with one of them.

Is the TC, is that like the shadow? No, no, the TC by Maserati was a, I'll call it a joint venture,

but I actually opened the door this morning and looked at a little bit closer. There's actually

a Vintag on it from Maserati. Okay. And it's like a LeBaron GTS convertible. Okay. But it's,

but they made it that same chassis. It's got a three liter V6 Chrysler engine. It's got a

removable hard top with port windows, kind of like a Thunderbird. Okay. And a rich Crandian leather

of pillowed vinyl leather seats that on this one are very, very crusty. What year is it?

1990. I think they made them for three years, maybe? 89, 90, 91. We had a guy come into the

electronic stores back when that car was brand new and he says, I have a Maserati. And we're like,

no, you don't. Well, that's cool. And he brought it in. I went, you have a LeBaron. Okay, that's

what I was thinking of when you said that. I'm like, it's kind of like saying, I have a Cadillac.

No, you have a Cavalier. No, I have a Cadillac. That's a Simeron. That's a Cavalier. We haven't

said the word Simeron. It's been a while. Last time we said the word Simeron. I think probably

before Chris was on the show. What was funny was that's in the letters to the editor. A Simeron

is in the letters to the editor and car and driver, which I read this morning, I believe.

They called it the Cavalac. 866-594-4150. Let's take some calls. Let's start with Chris in

Minnesota. Chris, you're on the end of the hood show. What can we do for you?

My 2014 Dodge Caravan, I have a trouble called T-Zero 394,

Amshaft position sensor intermittent bank two. I replaced the sensor, cleared the code. I can

drive it for a couple of days and then the code comes back. I clear the code and then

after a little while the code comes back. I was wondering what you think the next step

should be for me to fix this? Run. You did react when he said it. I've seen this one before and

what it comes down to on these is either in no particular order a failed cam sensor.

A rodent of some kind has been chewing on the wire. Corrosion where the connector

plugs into the sensor or metal contamination in the oil from failing lifters and rocker arms,

which is really common, that gets on the sensor and on the tone ring and causes it to read incorrectly.

And then we've got another one here. We've got four. We could have...

You have more fingers, so I'm curious where you're going to go with this.

Loose timing chain or computer software update or computer itself failed.

Unfortunately, probably if you had to put any of those at the first of the line and then the

metal in there. I'd pull that sensor out and look at it very closely and look at the tone ring and

see if there's any filings on it. If there are and you wipe them off and put it back in and it runs

perfectly, it's metal in there. But if it's still quiet and it runs good, you may be able to fix it

by pulling the valve covers off, check all those rockers, look at the cams for wear,

replace the rockers. They're very readily available. And pause at the look at the cam for wear.

Because that's not unusual.

If it's worn really bad, a little wear, you're going to see some marks. But if you look at it

and say, wow, that baby's really worn, then you're going to put cams and lifters or rockers and

everything in there. And that's not uncommon. People do this all the time. The dealerships

are doing them every day and then change the oil a couple of times, get her good and clean.

And it should usually, it's fine. Once it starts rattling pretty good, or if you've got a lot of

metal in there, a lot of people choose to replace the engine with a certified used part because

it's easier than trying to clean it out. But I've had, you know, I've had people at home,

one of our employees had one of these vans or this engine in a vehicle. And they said, well,

let's put rockers in it. Rockers fixed it for a couple months. It still had some metal in it.

They changed the oil a few more times, wiped the sensor off and eventually it cleaned itself up

and it was fine. And they saved some money overall, but they still ended up with, you know,

1500 bucks in parts. And of course, all that time they spent and changed the oil.

But that's a lot cheaper than an engine, isn't it?

You know, a used engine, used engines are not what you think. It depends on where you're at.

Lately, the price of mechanical work, I believe, has been over inflated. We've stayed pretty level,

but the number of people that call me every day that are shocked when I give them a price that

has not been discounted, it's just what the market has always been. And they're telling me

it is like $4,000 more for the same used engine. And when I when I question and I start wondering,

there's a couple things that are happening here. You could think like maybe like your doctor,

dentist, whatever, oh, they're just over charging me mechanics overcharge. I don't think it's that as

much as so many shops don't want to do that repair. They don't want to put engines in. We

have a number of shops that send engines to us, they send their customer or us, we do the engine

or the transmission, that big heavy work, because we know how to do it. And we're happy to do it.

We love doing it. And we can do it affordably. They don't want to do it. Their personnel don't

really like it. They don't want to do it. They feel more comfortable blasting out the everyday

stuff and cars coming cars go out there. They're good that way. And we like that. We're glad that

we can do that. And then when we're done with it, we send the if it needs other stuff like brakes,

it's like, no, we don't do that, whether they were nice enough to send us the car, we did the engine,

you got to go back to them and talk to them about that. So a lot of shops will say it's going to

be more just to not do it. And if the customer says, well, okay, no matter what, they're like,

well, for that price, I'll do it. So it's gone up. But the price of price to be used engine,

you've got to look at it no matter what the price is, Chris, whether it's

$3,000 or $11,000. How much does that car cost? If you say, oh, my Honda's broke, right? Chris,

you got this new Honda's like, my Honda's broke. I'm just going to junk it. What are you going to

get out of it? It's a pretty new Honda. I might get 2000 bucks out of it. Okay, what would it cost

you to go buy that Honda on the lot? Oh, it costs 20. And it cost 11 to fix it. So you're going to

make $9,000 by you could fix it and sell it and make nine grand or you could just

junk it. What do you want to do? Oh, I've never thought about that. So there's more to it than

just saying I need an engine and having a shop say, oh, we'll just put it in. Hey, Chris, you're

still with us. Let's hope it's the rodent. What about the cam phasers? No, I've not had it.

I've not had it for us. I've never had a problem with that being the cause of your issue. It's

either been, you know, a wire issue with that computer metal in there from rockers. He's already

done a sensor and he said it came back pretty quick. You take the old one out. It's contaminated.

It's got some metal filing stuck to it. You put another one in, it's clean. It's good. And then

it comes back. So just taking out and simply wiping it off really good and putting it back in. If

that fixes it, it's metal. And sometimes it's so fine that it's just a coating that's glittery

that you can't really see chunks or anything on it. Chris did not go the way I had hoped for you

and good luck and thanks for calling. Sorry. It seems... All right. 866-594-4150. That's the

number to reach us here at the end of the hood show. Now we're going to Utah and talking to Dave.

Dave, you're on the end of the hood show. What can we do for you?

Well, I have a question about a new truck. Well, a newer than I have truck. But first I want to

say I was listening to the other week and that guy was trying to mow his lawn in the winter,

but he couldn't start his mower. So I was a small engine mechanic for a long time.

And what I always do for my gas can is empty. I put the fuel stabilizer in it and then go

fill up my gas can. So any gas in my gas cans, any gas in my equipment always has stabilizer in it.

That's why I want to say about that. But I want to get a newer truck. I like the body style

of the 2015 to 2018 Chevy. And I've heard you guys talk about the transmission having the

thermostat problem. But I need a three-quarter ton to pull my trailer, but I don't want a

diesel. I want a gas. And I don't know if a three-quarter ton gas is going to have the same

kind of problems as a half ton. In my opinion for you, Dave, and thanks for calling in and

offering your insight from our previous call because that was a fun call. We really like

that the weather was that nice. It looks like we're going to get some of that back. And that is

putting it in. You don't have to wait until you're going to store anything to put stabilizer in,

right? Yeah. Well, our bulk tank that we have out here, our company that brings our bulk,

they add stabilizer and treatments to it. And then we also have other stuff we put in there. And

that was always the best method is you put it in at the bottom and fill it up and let it all get

splashed around and mixed around. And so that's a good way to do that. And as long as you know

you're going to use it up over some time, that works out well. That works out well. But if you

don't, you've stabilized it. But I'm talking about the additive. But if I were you, my own opinion,

just because of the, I think it's a much better engine, I would try to save my budget until you

could get to at least a 2021, was it? Or 22 when they started putting the LAT in there, the 6.6

gas, that motor and that transmission combination that they put up yet, they've proven to be very

strong. And people want them for the aftermarket because they're putting superchargers on them

because they're a solid cast iron block. I just think not that the other ones bad, you know,

the previous generation with the six liter was a, that transmission was not as prone to failure

as the half tons that we're talking about, by any means, with the gas motor, three quarter tons.

But if you really wanted to save and get some budget dollars put aside, I would, I would

jump up to that next generation with the 6.6 LAT gas in it, if you could.

But that's $20,000. If you look around, there's starting to be some high mileage ones out there

that are less, less money. Okay. And a higher mileage, one of those is probably better than a

little lower mileage, one of those. It's just a superior, we had those six liters with the,

you know, basically the four L80, but it's the, not that anymore, but it's the electronically

shifted transmission in our delivery trucks in Azuzu MPRs. And they work fine. But boy,

when we got the different generation with the 6.6 in it and the next transmission that's made it to

it, it's just such a, it's just such a better vehicle. It's the way it drives the power that

it has. Last trips to the shop. Yeah. It just, I don't know. That's just that. I jumped on that.

I don't know why because it's my own experience, I guess, but I'm going to jump in and say that

seems like terrible advice for a radio show. And I'll tell you why, because I just looked up 2016,

2500. Yep. A bunch of them showed up 25 grand. Yep. I looked up 22, a bunch of them show up

49, 51, 45. Those are probably diesels at that price. But they're all, but I'm just,

but they're the same search 2015 versus 2022. Okay. So I'm going to go back then and I'm going

to do the Chris Carter answering of this call without what I've interjected. All right. I'm fine

with your answer. Hey, Chris, thanks for calling in and give us the tip about the, put the additive

in your gas can first. We like that Dave Dave Dave Dave. Did I? Oh yeah. Okay Dave. Chris is a

Dave. Good tip about that. No, but you go ahead and, and don't be as worried about that three

quarter ton transmission behind the gas motor as you, as we have had in experiences with the half

tons. That's when we talk about the, the bypass field, the 10 speeds. Yeah. There's two problems

with those we can discuss later, but that's not in that truck. I will say your advice is noted

and Dave, let me ask you this on that note. Does that, does his advice help you or is that just

not in the cards right now? Well, for one thing, it's not in the cards right now. And I think

all the trucks passed the 2018 bar style ugly. So, well, hey, you know what, there's, there's that.

So, well, let me give them this Dave, if you're looking for a 15 to 18, you go pick the three

quarter ton you like preferably with the six speed tranny in it, not an eight, but get the six.

And then as soon as you buy it and you're happy that it's, that it's a good running truck,

go buy, go to Amazon and pick up the thermal bypass kit for the transmission. It bypasses

that thermostat that sticks and burns them up. You can do it at home. It's going to cost you

less than a hundred bucks for everything bolted on, then you don't have to worry about that

sticking and you'll probably have a good truck 90%, maybe 95 or 90, maybe even more percent of the

transmissions we repair to put another one in on those model, the 15 to 18s are because that

thermostat stuck and smoked the transmission and it could have been avoided. And when people say,

well, you can't take the thermostat out and you have that external cooler because then the radiator

will never warm up the fluid and it'll take so long to warm up the fluid. Think about this,

until your thermostat opens on your engine, that radiator never warms up. And if you're driving

in a day that's 10 degrees out anyways, it may never open up. And so you're driving with that

open loop anyway. There's no difference. So I think you'd be fine if you got the budget for

15 to 18, find the one you like, six speed auto. And is that thermostat issue one where if it

hasn't happened yet, it put it in. I mean, it's an instant problem. When it breaks, it breaks.

If it hasn't broken. Yes, you could take off this morning, it's fine. This afternoon you take off,

you burn it up. So it's not like a cumulative problem where he takes it out and then it breaks.

Okay. We have two transmission rebuilders we use that we bought purchase from that we're

national distributors form. And those transmissions always come with a bypass valve

for the transmission. Every one of them. They feel confident giving you a three year 100,000

mile warranty with no thermostat in there versus some people that say, well, you can't take the

thermostat out. It would be too cold on the cold. No, it's not. That's what they want. And it works

perfectly. Does that help you out there, Dave?

Helps out a lot. Thanks. Thanks very much. Now, Dave, thanks for the call. In the opposite

direction, I think your answer was a good answer. Don't justify my stupidity and craziness. I'm not

at all. I think it was a fine switch. It just wasn't if you can afford it that new truck. I would

feel so much more comfortable with that engine combination. You know what I did though? I discounted

his first comment and it was the most important thing. I don't like it. Yeah, I like the looks of

the 15 to 18s. I heard him say it and I blew right past it, but that was a very important detail to

him and I would I blew right past it. So shame on me. The end of the hood show podcast is brought

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on the end of the hood show. What can we do for you? Yeah, first of all, it's amazing you guys.

You really answer your phones. You call us back. I'm truly amazed. I'm a senior and all my days

very seldom do anybody ever call you back. I've got to be honest with you and I appreciate that.

Thank you. We appreciate you. Well, thank you too. I have a problem with

my Honda when I park my driveways on a slight incline and when I put it in reverse I get a clunk

like a jump like the car literally jumps. If I go down let it go down a hill by itself then

it's level. I don't get that clunk. Sometimes I'll get a little bit but very little but

the incline it sounds like something's falling out you know. That's scary. What kind of Honda

you got Frank? 2004 Honda Odyssey. I got to straighten something out here because I heard

two things. If he stopped on a hill on an incline he puts it in reverse it goes bang

but if you let it roll down and then put it in reverse and it doesn't so what you're saying

are you telling me that if you put it in reverse it bangs if you're on that hill on your driveway

but if you bypass reverse you just go from park to neutral and let it roll all the way down

the hill and then put it in reverse it's quiet is that right? Well pretty quiet I would say

hardly no if anything just a tiny bit of very little not almost not noticeable it's just a

little jump like. So it is not the pulling it out of park that makes the bang it's getting it

into the reverse gear when it engages reverses when you get the bang. Right. All right you could

it could be as simple as an engine mount or a transmission mount it's just getting loose

and causing that so you pull it out of park the park paw releases a lot of times they would

they would hang up on a hill they would drag if you're parked on an incline all the time

what they want you to do is pull up with your foot on the brake and still in gear put the

parking brake on and then put it into park so the parking brake holds the vehicle not the

transmission because that transmission if you're on a steep enough hill it will not hold it and on

any hill it's not great right that could be that could be basically you're saying when I'm when I'm

up there play it say put the emergency brake on have you used the parking brake before

very seldom okay because I'm I'd be a look so I would say the next time you have your

vehicle into a shop so if this was in my shop and you said can you check my parking brake because

I haven't turned it on I have the ability to release it I know how to get back there and

what to pry on to release it so if I turn it on for you to test it and I say oh it works great

you're fine great if it sticks though I know where to pry to release it and tell you don't use it I

don't want you to try and your drive with the first time and have it not work Honda's very seldom

this is where they usually work yeah it's probably gonna work you'll probably be just fine but after

they check that for you like during the next oil change or whatever then try it just pull up with

your foot on the brake put the parking brake on before you put that shifter into park and if that

works that's your situation you'll be fixed if not you might have a loose engine mount and the next

time you're into the shop to get the oil change and stuff say could you just rock it and see what

you think because all they it's no big deal to check it they don't have to say we're going to

charge you an hour minimum I've seen that before all they do is open the hood with it in park and

they rock it forward and backwards until it stops and they can see how far the engine rocks if it

moves just a tiny little bit you're good if it lifts way up and goes thump thump back and forth

they got a broken mount they use fluid filled hydraulic mounts on these to cushion and it was

common for them to leak with some age and get some slack in them and and make some noise and Frank if

the worst case scenario was that there's something wrong with a planetary or something in the

differential on the transmission or internal you're probably not going to want to spend the money to

fix it anyway you'd probably wait until it's way worse and then replace the transmission so getting

that parking brake working so you can take some of that stress off it and hope when you're holding

the hill would be a good a good help for you are you so buried in snow that you can't roll down a

hill right now or how is everything where you're at no I got my driveways clean you know like

driveways clean did you get the big amounts of snow or were you a little further inland oh no yeah

we got we got almost two feet two feet yeah yeah I know we saw that we've been watching on the news

of course when you get a big event like that uh you guys are uh you've been doing a lot of digging

this year you got all the snow we didn't mm-hmm yeah oh yeah it was a rough one you know and

thank god I got good neighbors right they helped me out you know what we say thank you to your

neighbors too because you sound like a good guy so Frank thanks very much for the call good luck

and that is with with the car if we have any if we're within what five years you should use

the parking brake before you put it in park pull up to your spot hit the brake stop turn on the

parking brake and then turn then put it in park there's a strategy built into a lot of the newer

GM vehicles at least when you hit the park the park button you hear the I think your truck probably

does it you hear the parking brake engage and then it clicks into park it's it's almost simultaneous

but it's it's doing that to help and a lot of vehicles because of the electronics on the braking

system now they have automated hill holder function so that when it gets on a hill that the brake

will hold it instead of putting all the trip pressure on the transmission and and keeps it from

rolling back I mean a lot of good technology out there with those things mine has all the hybrid

bells and whistles but it's not a hybrid so they're not relevant but it has brake hold hill hold

but I don't have a it it's not a hybrid so it's not really but it's nice to have those things

sometimes yeah because it does it does do the on off which I'm not as sweet on in the non-hybrid

because it starts every time and I know now what people like in the Prius never had an issue never

thought it was a big deal and now it feels like a big deal because it feels like the car is starting

because it is you know it does rattle to life kind of or or roar to life it's a little bit

weird eight six six five nine four four one five oh let's go to Nebraska and talk to Luke

you're on the end of the hood show Luke what can we do for you thank you guys great show thank you

yeah yeah I have a 2011 equinox with that 2.4 it's got about 104,000 on it and it likes to eat oil

yeah you don't like that have a meat and oil but the the encouraging thing is there's a chance

that it might be not so bad there's a chance there's a chance and there's another chance

that it could be bad and so you've got a four cylinder right yeah yeah oh you're gonna say it

seems to be yeah it seems to be like when you you know get on it mash the foot pedal it eats a

lot of oil that way well hopefully it's because the positive crank case vent system the pcv system

that's integrated into the valve cover is uh is gummed up and it's pulling that oil right into

your intake and burning it versus problems with the piston rings and pushing it by them

you know and burning it but if you if you caught it how many miles are on this equinox you said 104

yeah how long has it been how long has it been burning the oil

uh it's been getting worse for the last two years yes I appreciate this call because that's

about I would that would be my I'd go about two years I think well if you let it go too long you'll

damage the engine but it could be that it's it's oil you're you're getting too much blow by if you

pull the cap off the oil while it's sitting there idling if it's got a ton of air blowing out

shouldn't be blowing out that much that pressure is what would force it into there eventually

it'll blow out the front and rear main seal and then you'll have a very expensive problem but

the the first fix for that you you got two things you can do some people try to drill a hole in a

certain spot on the intake to clean out the port but that only gets the one port it doesn't get all

four and then they'll put a screw in it to cover it up and you'll see some youtube videos on that

and great if you want to do that but the right way is to unbolt that intake manifold and do one

of two things you can either purchase an upgraded dormant intake manifold from our partner dormant

that is all upgraded pcv good to go or you can take yours off and you can use a tiny little drill

bit in the pick and clean out the four ports one in each runner of the intake and then the fifth one

which is the main one and then spray cleaner down through the hole in there and make sure it washes

in that hole and out the other four once it's all clean and you can put it back together some of them

putting a whole intake on it some people don't feel comfortable trying to clean the old one out

so that's that's what you can do to clean that out if it's got that much blow by and then if that

is if that's was plugged and you put it back on you should instantly see a change in the amount

of air that's coming out of that cap this is the same issue we have with the chevrolet trucks with the

LS series engines where they would burn a lot of oil and it was a pcv related issue which turned

out to be a valve cover you just replace the valve cover on the driver's side and boom your oil

burn is done you fixed it those are the easy fixes if it's bigger than that usually they burn more

oil than that and a lot faster they'll go from everything working fine to within a day or two

you got broken piston rings stuck rings they're just putting so much oil and you can't run the

engine anymore so i'm optimistic that yours might just be this pcv issue and you you say that it

shouldn't blow out that much it blows out is there a way to test that or will he know typically it

should blow it would should have a little suction to it okay and you can take the cap off and if

you set a piece of paper on top of it it would stick to it but not suck it in and it wouldn't

blow it off if you can't lay a piece of paper on top of it without it blowing away then it's got

too much pressure and then once he cleans it it'll sit on there and hopefully it will if

there's no wear in the rings it may be to the point that it's worn enough that you're still

going to have some blow by but not so maybe you could reduce the oil consumption by half

or three quarters that would be great yeah how much oil is it using

it about

court probably in two weeks well if you could knock that down to a half a court of

month that would be great luke thanks very much for the call good luck and eventually he'll damage

his catalytic converter running that much oil through it it's it's getting warm and it burns

it out of there but eventually sometimes it just doesn't do the job eight six six five nine four

four one five hope that's the number to reach us here at the end of the hood show let's go back

to frank frank where you did you have another question about your odyssey yeah i got a little

confused there but let me just say you told me uh drive to the top of my driveway and then don't

put it in park use the emergency with my foot right the foot emergency yes but before you do that at

home do it at a shop right since you haven't used it as much as you could it might break

the first time we're just concerned that you'd push that emergency break in and then all

sudden this the cables get stuck or something because it hasn't been used for a while and

then you got another problem that you don't need that's that's what we're trying to avoid okay so

have that checked first but then the other thing you said they have my engine mount checked yep

have them put it in park at a shop when you're getting your oil changed if that's what you do and

haven't lift the hood and and rock it back and forth and and see if you got any like russ said

if it if you see that engine moving back and forth a couple inches and it's going kunk kunk kunk

every time they move it back and forth there's your problem you got a motor mount that's broken

and what is the next problem it could be well you start getting into some other things it could

be inside of the transmission after they've checked all the external things they're going to want to

check the cv joints to make sure that there's not a bushing out or you know something like that could

make it clunk like that also on the changes of pressure on that drivetrain it's the same thing

on an axle shaft there's pressure one way pressure the other way if all of a sudden one of them has

got a excessive wear they can make a clunk you know that sort of thing you could have a break

that's making a clunk but based on what you how you explain that to us that's the first thing we

would look into but if those problems find out all everything else looks good and there's something

that's making the noise inside the transmission like a i don't think it could be in the differential

of the transmission it could be a planetary of the transmission at that point you might just learn

to live with it because the the expense of replacing the transmission or trying to fix the

transmission would far outweigh the value of that of that o4 i think it was odyssey so in frank's case

those two things are procedures that he can do to check that aren't going to cost a lot of money

and if it's not that you just drive it till it stops work then you learn to manage the problem

using that park assist brake and just taking some of the pressure off of it when you're doing

those those uh hills and maneuvers and we should mention too does that make sense frank

yeah it makes sense i i get through to saying i just uh it's excellent car and you know the

pond is excellent and you know i had it 20 years and it's uh been good to me and it's really uh a

very good car so i'm just saying if if it is a tranny is it worth replacing a tranny and just

keep using it or not what do you think on that average well you'd like the car how many miles

you got on that vehicle frank i think it is about 75 thousand oh that's really low miles

really low miles i and is the body clean not rusty is showing through or anything like that

no rush just a few things and dangs and you know what i mean where the bumpers were bangs and

a little taping it a hole here and there well there's a hole you're looking at a vehicle that's

got um you know to replace it with a newer van you're going to spend a lot of money because

those newer vans get to be 20 30 thousand dollars 15 18 thousand for a high mileage used one at

farce got a timing belt yeah it's it i just i don't know if it's not if somebody looks at it

and says oh that's not so bad you might just keep going it's going to probably do that for a long

time you definitely want to look into a timing belt though because of that 22 years old if that's

never been done yeah and we should say too when uh the the term parking brake and emergency brake

same brake just different terminology over the years this i mean we we're talking about the

parking brake and we didn't always call it the parking brake well because it's only for parking

if you activate a parking brake you will destroy it if the vehicle is moving yeah it's meant to be

hold when you're stopped um not for jay turns no it's um not anymore right right right right

it's the difference between so if if you put your if you put your bare hands on a on a on a pipe

like pretend you're on in x games right these games right you're holding the pole and you and

you stand there you're holding it as tight as you can without gloves your your hands are fine

there you're trying to struggle with a grip but you know your hands are fine now what happens if

you just grab a fire pole and you slide down uh 100 feet with your bare hands you're gonna burn

your hands that's what's happening with those brakes parking brake you're stopped it holds

doesn't generate any heat if you turn it on going on the road it's paper thin and it will

destroy that lining it'll be gone whereas when they used to call them a emergency brake

that brake was there in case your hydraulics failed when you did not have a proportioning

valve to if your rear hydraulics went you still had front your front went you still had rear

that was your service brake would work so that was that's when it became a parking brake

before that it was yeah an emergency brake you needed something to stop the train

866-594-4150 frank thanks very much for the call good luck 866 i already said that

594-4150 let's go to oklahoma and talk to rowdy you're on the end of the hood show rowdy what can

we do for you i got a 25 christner voyager and the clock in here advances six hours every night

you can you can reset it and i do i reset it every day and then when i go home and park in

the evening the clock will advance six hours and no one seems to know how to fix that still under

warranty or no oh no have you ever tried sitting in it and seeing if it actually goes forward in time

because maybe maybe something's going on in there maybe it's a portal it's getting older every day

it's like it's jumping into another time zone is your so that's exactly how many miles i'm thinking

i know kind of what's going on i mean i know what it what it is doing is the computer is

resetting it as the home time zone that is what it's doing my car when i get in my car every morning

it immediately turns on and shows me eastern time zone and then it re it switches back an hour after

a few seconds so i do i think his car every time he starts it is going to a european time zone or

whatever it would be um six hours still lanterns yeah it's picking up a satellite from like europe

or something or africa or whatever as originally made that radio was not made in the united states

but here's the i've seen a lot of these do this and there's there's one of two fixes for it either

have the radio reflashed by the dealer to upgrade the software or they have to replace it that's

that's the only two fixes for that a lot of them were replaced i've had a lot of customers that

had this problem they said yeah they tried to program it and it didn't work next day it did it

so they put a radio in it does your map on the vehicle work just fine everything yeah everything

works just fine just other than the the time change you know and it's and it's nothing i mean

i can i can switch it back every morning but i tell you what it does do also when you're trying

to hit your remote start it's it's real tough to use your remote start because it's like it's

not doing you know it won't do it the first time and you have to you know click it a couple more

times or something but you're too far away it's in europe that car is six hours away it only runs

for 10 minutes okay yeah maybe that's what it is but all right so it's just a it's a whole

new fix and maybe software program or or replace the radio but the our customers replace the

radio they're all under warranties are like no cost i there's something else i'm getting out of

this call as i sit here and listen to this and i bet you can't guess what it is chris or russ

i was there's nothing to do with the time was it the first part of the call the very first part

uses it for uber and amazon no or that it exists yeah i didn't know they made a 25 christler

voyager agree i thought the same thing i thought they're all pacificus uh huh i yeah i thought they

didn't they jump a year or jump three or four how long they still been making a voyager this

like my mind was just broke i'll stop for a few years actually the when i went this was what i was

looking for i had a pacific and i was trading in and i was just said well i don't need the pacific

it was you know the trim packages all in they said get a voyager and i did go to a couple

lots and they're like oh no they quit making that they quit making it i'm like well i'm looking at one

you know at another dealer and it says voyager on it and so uh that's you know and now the the other

they had one for a long time called i forget what it was called but they don't make it anymore

the uh i forget the well they always had you always had the caravan the town and country

and then they went to the pacifica the pacifica has all but vanished from the planet have you

noticed that the last few years the one that had all the problems they're just gone yeah they have

big rental fleets of those i immediately when he said it i googled it yeah because i didn't

and it sure enough 2025 crazy voyager the older pacific is the ones that had all the problems

yeah the o five six the suv version before it was the new ones are great oh love it that's

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