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Arnold Clark profits hit £112.5m, 3p per mile EV tax confirmed, and Car Dealer Power results – with John Veichmanis, episode 267

Arnold Clark profits hit £112.5m, 3p per mile EV tax confirmed, and Car Dealer Power results – with John Veichmanis, episode 267

Car Dealer Podcast Jul 16, 2026 63 min
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About this episode

AutoTrader is spotlighted first, with hosts discussing how it connects retailers to consumer demand and adds “buying intent” insights to online inquiries. The conversation then shifts to Carwow’s auction mechanics with CEO John Vic Manis: removing reserve prices, anchoring bids to retail valuations, and using retail back pricing plus algorithms to shape both dealer and consumer expectations. The episode also covers UK EV mileage-based road tax plans (3p per mile) and dealer survey results, including Car Dealer Power “Cars of the Year” winners.

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Car

Hyundai i20

"We did negotiate a price, and I drove his lovely Hyundai i20 away."

The Hyundai i20 is a compact hatchback (a small car with a rear hatch). Here, it’s just the specific car they bought and drove away after negotiating the price.

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Auto trader

"all cars show a retail valuation via AutoTrader or Brago."

AutoTrader is a website where used cars are listed for sale. In this discussion, it’s used to provide a price estimate for auction listings.

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Brago

"all cars show a retail valuation via AutoTrader or Brago."

Brago is mentioned as a pricing/valuation source. The takeaway is that auctions show an estimated retail price to help dealers bid.

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margins

"Dealers are now left to bid with their own margins in mind, not knowing what the reserve price is."

Here, “margins” means the profit dealers want to make. Since they can’t see the reserve price, they have to decide their bid based on what profit they need.

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reserve price

"We made the change on Wednesday, so that was the first auction where we added the retail price and removed the reserve price."

A reserve price is the lowest price the seller will accept. If the bidding doesn’t hit that number, the seller can choose not to sell.

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retail price

"We made the change on Wednesday, so that was the first auction where we added the retail price and removed the reserve price."

Retail price is what a car is expected to sell for to a customer. Here, the auction uses that number to help dealers decide what to bid.

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location of their site

"if a dealer logs into their own auto trader account, they get a price related to the location of their site."

Car prices can change depending on where you are. Here, the speaker says Auto Trader can estimate a price based on the dealer’s location.

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nationwide price

"they get a price related to the location of their site. So, we can't provide that. So, we provide an effective nationwide price."

Nationwide price means one general estimate used everywhere, not tailored to a particular town or region. They can’t share the location-specific number, so they use a country-wide one.

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cap valuations

"I think there's a little bit of confusion, which was definitely in our part that we moved the cap valuations to the bottom of the auction listing."

“Cap valuations” are maximum value limits used to stop someone from bidding too high. It helps buyers keep their auction bids within a safe budget.

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retail valuation

"So, you can now see the retail valuation and cap in the pill at the top of the page close to where customers' dealers rather place the bid."

Retail valuation is an estimate of the car’s selling price in a dealer showroom. Dealers use it to figure out what they can afford to bid at auction.

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retail back pricing

"So I think the other thing that we've done, which is perhaps less obvious, is that we now have the retail back pricing in the auction, but we're also using it for valuations on the consumer side."

It’s a way to estimate what a car should sell for by using auction results. Instead of treating auction prices and retail prices as totally separate, they “convert” auction outcomes into a customer-facing value.

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algorithmic calculation

"So we basically have an algorithmic calculation that looks at the bids. So it's using the retail price and then the bids to calculate."

It means the valuation isn’t just a human guess—it’s computed by a set of rules using data. Here, they’re using auction bids and retail pricing to generate the estimate.

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bids

"So we basically have an algorithmic calculation that looks at the bids. So it's using the retail price and then the bids to calculate."

Bids are the offers made by buyers during an auction. The speaker is saying their valuation model uses the bids as a key input, alongside retail pricing, to estimate value.

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prep costs

"It isn't calculating margins, obviously, because there are prep costs as margin on top, but it's using the differential between the two"

Prep costs are what it takes to get a car ready to sell—like fixing small issues and doing reconditioning. The point here is that those extra costs affect the economics beyond just the auction and retail numbers.

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differential between the two

"It isn't calculating margins, obviously, because there are prep costs as margin on top, but it's using the differential between the two"

It means the difference between two prices. Here, they compare the customer-facing retail price with what the car is bidding for at auction, and use that gap to estimate value.

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MPS survey

"And when we run an MPS survey, [1052.0s] so a customer satisfaction survey, [1054.0s] and most of the customers that were going through that process"

An MPS survey is a customer feedback survey. Here, it’s used to see whether customers were happy with the dealer’s process.

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buy-now section

"there are definitely some dealers that really put quite a few cars in the buy-now section. But again, I think they found it really quite frustrating"

A “buy-now” option lets someone purchase the car immediately for a fixed price. Instead of waiting for bids to finish, the deal can happen right away.

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traditional auction method

"Did you think of any other ways, JV, of doing this? [1117.6s] I mean, there's obviously like the traditional auction method, [1120.5s] like the kind of eBay style."

A traditional auction means people bid against each other over time. The car goes to the highest bidder when the auction ends.

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auction mechanics

"So we have tested, over the course of the last six months, we have tested lots of different auction mechanics."

“Auction mechanics” just means the rules of how the auction works. If the rules change, it can change how many people bid and whether the car actually sells.

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probability of cars being sold

"And the changes that we saw drove better outcomes for customers in terms of increased the probability of cars being sold."

They’re talking about how likely it is that cars will actually sell in the auction. It’s a way to judge whether the auction setup is working.

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CarWow

"I mean, the one thing we're seeing across Carwow as a whole is new car has been extremely, [1456.5s] extremely positive."

Carwow is a website/app involved in buying and selling cars. In this segment, they’re saying what’s happening on Carwow’s new-car side.

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configurations on the platform

"Our new car business is growing, the configurations on the platform are up 40% [1464.4s] year of year, just to put it into perspective."

“Configurations” means the different versions of a car you can choose—like trim level and options. If there are more configurations available, it can make it easier for buyers to find something that fits their budget.

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Mercedes A-Class

"customers that may be pre-pandemic would buy a brand new Mercedes-A class for £250, [1483.8s] post-pandemic that was £500."

The Mercedes A-Class is a smaller Mercedes model that’s often one of the more affordable ways to buy into the Mercedes brand. They’re using it to show how people’s buying choices changed with prices and budgets.

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economic uncertainty

"So I think that is, I think there's a little bit of economic uncertainty"

Economic uncertainty means people aren’t sure about money and the future. When that happens, they may delay buying a new car or switch to cheaper options like used cars.

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used car classified products

"Yeah, so the really the bigger area of opportunity for us, I think, particularly when we look at the sell my car businesses to try and connect that to our emerging used car classified products."

This means the website features where used cars are listed for sale. The point being made is that they want those listings to work together more smoothly with their other auction/selling tools.

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connected car ecosystem

"So we want to try and build a connected ecosystem so that if you're selling cars on our platform... So there's a big focus on how do we connect the products together more effectively because at the moment they live something from a technology perspective, they're on a completely different stack and that there is limited integration between them."

They’re talking about making different parts of the website work together. Instead of each feature being separate, they want your selling activity to influence what you see when you come back to buy.

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Kia Picantos

"So we want to try and build a connected ecosystem so that if you're selling cars on our platform, if you've sold two Kia Picantos and when you log back into the auction, well here are here are 20 more you could buy."

A Kia Picanto is a small, easy-to-drive car that many people buy and sell. Here it’s just an example of the kind of car a seller might list, and then the auction site could show you similar cars to buy next.

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technology stack

"because at the moment they live something from a technology perspective, they're on a completely different stack and that there is limited integration between them."

A technology stack is the behind-the-scenes set of software systems that make an app or website work. They’re saying their different car-selling tools are built on different systems, so they don’t connect as well as they could.

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Ford Puma

"...if you come to car wow and we've only got 50 Ford Pumas available, then we need more breadth of choice to..."

The Ford Puma is a small crossover, meaning it’s built to be easy to drive while still feeling a bit more rugged than a regular hatchback. Dealers may talk about it when they don’t have many available, because fewer cars means fewer customers can get the exact model they want. It’s often part of the “how many choices do we have” conversation.

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Car Gurus

"Last week on the podcast we had Sam Zales from CarGurus. That second position in the used car advertising platform is one that lots of people jostled for."

CarGurus is a car-shopping website that helps people find used cars and connects them with sellers. Here it’s mentioned as a competitor in the UK used-car advertising space.

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demand led

"I think what you're going to see at car wow is I talk about this in strategic terms in that car wow has ultimately always been demand led. We have huge amounts of demand given the investments we've made in content and performance marketing."

“Demand led” means they focus on what shoppers are actively looking for. In this segment, it’s used to explain why Carwow believes it attracts more buyers than competitors.

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traffic basis

"So without being an egotistical ass, I think if you look on a demand basis, on a traffic basis, then we are the clear number two in the UK."

“Traffic basis” just means they’re comparing how many people visit each website. The speaker is using visitor numbers as a way to judge which used-car sites are most popular.

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pay-per-mile charges on EVs

"So this is going to work exactly as we, I'm going to say feared or anticipated, depending on your perspective. It's going to be 3pm on EVs and 1.5pm on plug-in hybrids."

It means the government wants to charge electric-car drivers based on how much they drive. So instead of paying through fuel costs, you pay through a mileage-based road tax.

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plug-in hybrid

"It's going to be 3pm on EVs and 1.5pm on plug-in hybrids."

A plug-in hybrid can drive using electricity, but it also has a regular engine. You can charge it like an EV, but it can also use gas when needed.

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road tax

"It's going to work in the way that you pay your road tax. So when you come to pay your car tax, you will say, I think I'm going to drive X number of miles this year."

Road tax is the government fee you pay to legally drive your car on public roads. In this plan, the mileage-based charge is meant to be calculated in a similar way to how road tax is worked out.

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MOT

"if you have a new enough car that doesn't need an MOT and therefore hasn't had its mileage recorded, you have to accurately say, I've actually done this many and pay the difference."

MOT is the UK safety check your car has to pass to stay legal on the road. The host says it also matters because it can record mileage, which then affects how the new mileage-based charge is calculated.

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trust pro rata system

"So it's this sort of strange trust pro rata system going on."

A “trust pro rata system” describes a mileage-charge approach where you declare expected/actual miles and pay proportionally over time, rather than being fully verified immediately. “Pro rata” means the charge is scaled based on the portion of the period or usage being covered.

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VED

"June with her Nissan Micra or whatever driving 3,000 miles a year is not going to pay as much in VED or EVED they're calling it as you, James, driving around in your Tesla."

VED is the UK road tax you pay to legally keep a car registered. It’s usually calculated using things like how the car is powered and how much it emits.

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Nissan Micra

"So I suppose the idea here is that June with her Nissan Micra or whatever driving 3,000 miles a year is not going to pay as much in VED or EVED they're calling it as you, James, driving around in your Tesla."

The Nissan Micra is a small everyday car. Here it’s mentioned as an example of someone driving relatively few miles, to show how a mileage-based tax could affect costs.

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DVLA

"They're going to have to put some sort of like I mean who the DVLA is handling all of this not HMRC necessarily. So if someone misrepresents their mileage and sells the car and then somebody else goes to tax it and finds that the mileage discrepancy is such that somebody owes some tax on it."

DVLA is the UK agency that keeps the official records for vehicle registration and licensing. The segment is saying they’d likely be the ones dealing with problems if someone reports the wrong mileage for tax.

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HMRC

"They're going to have to put some sort of like I mean who the DVLA is handling all of this not HMRC necessarily. So if someone misrepresents their mileage and sells the car and then somebody else goes to tax it and finds that the mileage discrepancy is such that somebody owes some tax on it."

HMRC is the UK tax authority. The hosts are basically saying that the vehicle-related paperwork and enforcement might be handled by DVLA instead of HMRC.

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mileage discrepancy

"So if someone misrepresents their mileage and sells the car and then somebody else goes to tax it and finds that the mileage discrepancy is such that somebody owes some tax on it."

A mileage discrepancy just means the car’s mileage figures don’t match—like if the odometer reading or records are different. In a mileage-based tax system, that could lead to extra tax being owed.

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penalties

"it does sort of work for fleets because fleets naturally or leases you know you know that you are going to do a maximum of 10,000 miles a year otherwise you're going to be paying penalties anyway on your lease or your whatever."

Here “penalties” means extra fees if you drive more than the mileage limit your lease or fleet contract allows. The idea is that fleets already plan around those limits.

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EV tax

"“...the government has haven't done a very good PR job because what they're saying is this this tax is effectively making it fairer to use the roads...”"

They’re talking about a tax or charge aimed at electric cars. Since EVs don’t buy petrol or diesel, the government wants a different way to collect money from EV drivers.

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fuel duty

"“...petrol and diesel drivers every time they fill up are paying this tax already... electric car drivers have basically been avoiding it...”"

Fuel duty is the tax the UK collects on petrol and diesel at the pump. The speaker argues that petrol/diesel drivers already pay this through fuel purchases, while EV drivers avoid it because they don’t use those fuels.

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trust system

"“...this scheme though is absolutely ridiculous I mean why on earth would you come up with this this kind of trust system where you have to guess how many miles you're going to do...”"

They’re describing a setup where drivers effectively have to report or estimate how much they’ll drive. The concern is that some people will lie or guess low to pay less.

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3p per mile

"“...we did a calculation didn't we the three pence per marv you do 10000 miles at 300 quid I mean...”"

It’s a rule that charges EV drivers based on how many miles they drive. So instead of paying fuel taxes at the pump, you pay a small amount per mile.

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EV Grant

"we take the the government EV grant phenomenal in terms of helping drive the adoption of EVs but again it's still really complicated"

An EV grant is a government discount to help you buy an electric car. It lowers the upfront price, but you still have to think about what it costs to charge it and how much you’ll drive.

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EV schemes

"compared to the we have um on carware Germany where the German government have implemented an EV scheme it price comes off the RRP it's quite straightforward to work out"

An EV scheme is a government program that makes electric cars cheaper or easier to use. Different countries do it differently—sometimes it’s a straight discount, other times it’s based on how much you drive.

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RRP

"where the German government have implemented an EV scheme it price comes off the RRP it's quite straightforward to work out"

RRP is the car’s official list price. If an EV discount comes off the RRP, it’s taken straight out of that listed price, so it’s simpler to calculate what you’ll pay.

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Nissan Leaf

"explain this to somebody's buying a three and a half thousand pound Nissan Leaf you know you've got to explain to them that all of a sudden they're going to have to go and estimate their annual mileage"

The Nissan Leaf is a popular electric car. The host is using it as an example to show that if the government charges or rules depend on how many miles you drive, it can be confusing for everyday buyers.

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PHEVs

"very quickly is PHEVs as well so the PHEV argument I really struggle with because he you know I understand they've had to put"

PHEVs are plug-in hybrid cars. They can drive on electricity like an EV, but they also have a gasoline engine, so the costs and rules can be more complicated than with a fully electric car.

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BYD

"representing BYD a motor JQGWM unfortunately um Cherry Geely and Leap Motor um they saw their new [2694.1s] car sales last year rise by 11 percent"

BYD is a big Chinese car company that makes lots of electric cars. Here, the hosts are pointing out that BYD is selling more cars and has strong money in the bank.

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Cherry Geely

"representing BYD a motor JQGWM unfortunately um Cherry Geely and Leap Motor um they saw their new [2694.1s] car sales last year rise by 11 percent"

This is a mention of Chinese car brands. The point being made is that their sales went up compared to the previous year.

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cash sat in its bank account

"there's a very very big number that's interesting 450 million pounds [2715.8s] nearly half a billion of cash sat in its bank account waiting to be deployed for for new opportunities"

They’re talking about how much money a company has saved in the bank. Having cash like this can help a car business grow or buy other businesses when chances come up.

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CEO

"or eddie hawthorne stopped stepped down last year didn't he this is [2796.1s] the first uh full year of russell bray uh his uh year year is um ceo first annual report"

CEO means the top boss of a company. It’s the person in charge of making the big decisions, and the hosts are noting how the new CEO’s first year went.

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Corvette

"which has been crucial to their success which was corvette oh of course yes i forgot yeah [2813.9s] big big big part of their numbers bumped up the uh the numbers"

The Corvette is a well-known sports car model. The hosts are saying it helped boost the numbers they were discussing.

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Chevrolet Corvette

"...which has been crucial to their success which was corvette oh of course yes i forgot yeah big big big part o..."

The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car made for fast driving and sporty handling. It’s a well-known model, so people often look for it when they want a performance car. That’s why it can be important in sales discussions.

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Volkswagen Id3

"...e binning off old names in favor of new ones like id3 or whatever and it's interesting that actually cu..."

The Volkswagen ID.3 is an electric car in a hatchback body style. The “ID” name is part of Volkswagen’s newer way of labeling its electric models. It’s mentioned because the brand is using these new names instead of older ones.

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infotainment system

"things like i don't love the infotainment system i don't know why it's got a campfire on the screen rather than a map but apart from that um and a couple of little usability things i just i was"

The infotainment system is the car’s main screen and controls for things like music and navigation. The host didn’t like how it looked/behaved in this case.

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usability things

"rather than a map but apart from that um and a couple of little usability things i just i was really impressed with them yeah i was"

They’re talking about how easy the car’s features are to use. In this case, they felt a couple of things weren’t very convenient or intuitive.

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BMW

"so that's sort of part one this is a bit of a long story sorry but i'll just touch on the manufacturers as well so bmw number one again this year i don't actually have the figures in front of me but number two was omoda slash jku"

BMW is mentioned as the top brand in the survey the host is talking about. They bring it up to compare BMW’s position with newer Chinese brands.

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omoda / jku

"but number two was omoda slash jku because they're sort of the same franchise and i thought that was incredible as well because they've come they weren't in the survey last year"

Omoda and JKU are mentioned as the runner-up in the survey results. The host says they’re grouped together as one franchise for this ranking.

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MG

"these are this is like the honeymoon period isn't it for a lot of these chinese brands mg interestingly traditionally don't do too fantastically in this survey which i think is quite interesting and one of the criticisms we tend to get about mg"

MG is mentioned as a brand that usually doesn’t score as well in this kind of dealer survey. The host says they often hear criticism about MG’s results.

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Toyota

"it'll be interesting to [3280.6s] see whether they maintain that position if you compare them to someone like toyota you know [3287.0s] incredible company really and incredibly well set up in the uk and very very focused on customer"

The host brings up Toyota as an example of a company that’s set up well for customer service and support. They’re comparing that to worries that some newer brands may struggle with service and parts later on.

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Stillantis

"you've [3304.0s] got perso citron and voxel in last place respectively i mean they are all stillantis brands all [3311.9s] ones that have been incredibly under pressure by those chinese brands"

The host is talking about Stellantis (the big group behind several car brands). They’re saying those brands are feeling pressure from Chinese brands, and some dealers are switching away from them.

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VW's

"i've been in some vw [3363.3s] groups stuff this week that i've just wanted to drive through a wall and you know it's we're not in [3369.1s] a great position i don't think with european car makers"

The host mentions VW as an example of a European brand where the technology can be frustrating. Their point is that both European and Chinese brands can have issues, just in different ways.

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driver power

"we also run driver power so we've been asking consumers what they think about the cars that they're actually driving and live with every day"

“Driver Power” is basically a survey where people rate the cars they’re driving every day. The goal is to learn what owners really think, not what the ads say.

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rental fives

"you know i think the rental fives are a great example of that yeah it's a phenomenal car but there is a lot of heritage behind it"

This sounds like a misheard car model name. The point is that some cars have a reputation and history that people really connect with.

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lisa brankin

"wanted to talk about lisa brankin who is the managing director of ford uh in the uk who's [3540.1s] called for an urgent review of the zv mandate"

Lisa Brankin is the top Ford executive in the UK. Here, she’s saying the government’s rules pushing zero-emission vehicles need to be reviewed because many buyers still aren’t ready to switch.

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ZV mandate

"called for an urgent review of the zv mandate um in a post on linkedin she said that the gap [3547.0s] between the eco targets and the reality of the new car market is getting wider"

A “ZEV mandate” is a government rule that pushes car companies to sell more zero-emission cars. The speaker is saying the targets may be too aggressive compared with what drivers are willing to buy right now.

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eco targets

"she said that the gap [3547.0s] between the eco targets and the reality of the new car market is getting wider"

“Eco targets” are government goals for cutting pollution and emissions. The point being made is that the goals for cleaner cars aren’t lining up with what people are buying today.

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fully electric vehicles

"the [3553.2s] switch to fully electric vehicles still doesn't make sense for a lot of customers"

Fully electric vehicles are cars that don’t use petrol or diesel— they run on a battery and electricity. The speaker is arguing that for some buyers, the switch still isn’t practical or appealing.

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EV discounting

"suggested [3557.7s] that their current level of EV discounting is not sustainable"

“EV discounting” is when electric cars are being sold with discounts or incentives to make them cheaper. The speaker’s point is that relying on discounts may not be a long-term solution.

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EV

"suggested [3557.7s] that their current level of EV discounting is not sustainable so i just thought was [3563.7s] interested in that"

“EV” means electric vehicle. It’s a car that runs on electricity from a battery, and the discussion here is about how EVs are being pushed and priced.

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