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ZEV mandate could be chopped, Yeomans revenue up after Chinese brand expansion, and JLR targets cost-cutting – with Simon Shield, episode 263

ZEV mandate could be chopped, Yeomans revenue up after Chinese brand expansion, and JLR targets cost-cutting – with Simon Shield, episode 263

Car Dealer Podcast Jun 19, 2026 67 min
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Simon Shield of Simon Shield Cars joins Car Dealer Podcast to talk used-car dealership life: on-site MOT and repairs, sourcing changes since COVID, and why margins depend on avoiding auction “old junk.” The hosts then pivot to wider industry themes—Auto Trader’s AI buying signals and EV lead stats—before debating the UK ZEV mandate and whether it’s “falsely controlling the market.” Yeomans’ revenue jump is linked to Chinese brand expansion, while JLR targets a “1.7 billion pound cost cutting agenda.”

Technical Too Afraid to Ask
Car

Volkswagen Golf

"...ion. There's like this kind of arch of Volkswagen Golfs, wasn't there, like on the roof."

The Volkswagen Golf is a small car, usually a hatchback, made for everyday driving. It’s popular enough that you’ll often notice lots of them on the road. People may mention it by its look—like the roof shape—because it’s easy to recognize.

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electric car

"[1612.1s] Does that extend to electric cars? [1614.7s] Oh, no, there's another story."

An electric car is powered by a battery and an electric motor instead of gasoline. It usually means buyers need more help understanding charging and how far it can go.

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Concept

leads

"[1675.9s] One of the statistics that auto traders said to us yesterday that really sort of [1680.7s] pricked my ears up was the fact that 22% of all leads now that auto traders sends to dealers [1687.4s] go to electric cars."

In car sales, “leads” are people who show interest in buying a car. The dealer then tries to contact them and turn that interest into a sale.

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Concept

forecourt

"[1687.4s] go to electric cars. [1689.2s] So, so that's, if you haven't got any electric cars on your, on your forecourt, [1693.4s] you're effectively losing one fifth of the opportunity."

A forecourt is the car lot area outside a dealership where cars are parked for customers to see. If you don’t have EVs there, you may miss out on people who are looking for them.

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Car

e-Niro Eniro

"We do, we do sell a few electric cars. [1712.3s] I bought a Kia E-Niro yesterday, very good retail rating with, I've sadly sold my Tesla"

The Kia E-Niro is Kia’s electric version of the Niro. It’s a popular everyday EV, so dealers often stock it and talk about how quickly it sells.

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main dealer

"You know, are you going to take a chance and buy, you know, a Tesla [1755.9s] put in by a main dealer out of Mannheim auctions?"

A “main dealer” is an official, brand-approved dealership. The point here is that some dealers buy cars through official channels, but used EVs can still come with costly surprises.

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Place

Mannheim auctions

"are you going to take a chance and buy, you know, a Tesla [1760.9s] put in by a main dealer out of Mannheim auctions? [1764.5s] Well, are you going to take that chance?"

Mannheim auctions refers to car auctions connected with Mannheim in Germany. Dealers may buy cars there to get inventory, but the host is warning that those cars can still need costly work.

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£3,000 spending

"And they're in, they end up with a, which a car, which needs £3,000 spending on it. [1775.7s] Yeah, we know now."

They’re talking about how a car might need about £3,000 worth of work after it’s bought. That kind of surprise cost can wipe out the deal if you didn’t plan for it.

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Brand

Tesla dealer

"It's got to go specifically to a, you know, a Tesla dealer, [1792.4s] or it's got to go specifically to an electric car dealer,"

This is talking about Tesla’s own sales/service network. The point is that electric cars often need the right people and tools to fix them safely.

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ZEV mandate

"Some changes to this ZEV mandate. And if you talk to the unions, I mean, Union General, Unite General Secretary Sharon Graham said the mandate was already significantly contributing to the loss of automotive jobs in Britain."

A ZEV mandate is a government rule that pressures car companies to sell more electric (zero-emission) cars. The goal is to reduce pollution from cars over time.

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electric vehicle

"I think we should probably let the consumer decide whether they want to buy an electric vehicle. And up until now, forcing it down their necks hasn't worked."

An electric vehicle is a car that runs on electricity from a battery. It doesn’t have a gasoline tailpipe, so it’s cleaner where you drive.

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EV

"trying to buy a petrol car are being told, no, you cannot have a petrol car, but you can have an EV instead."

EV stands for electric vehicle. It’s a car or van that runs on electricity from a battery, instead of petrol.

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ZV mandate

"Most people aren't aware of the ZV mandate outside of our little world, I think, because it's such a complicated bit of staggered targets and legislation..."

A ZEV mandate is a rule from the government that pushes car companies to sell more electric (zero-emission) vehicles over time. Because the targets come in steps, companies have to plan ahead so they can build and sell enough EVs.

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retooling their factory for electric

"But everyone is retooling their factory for electric. Nissan is retooling their factory for electric. They all think electricity and EVs is what's here to stay."

Retooling a factory means updating the factory so it can build a different product. Here, it means preparing the plant to make electric vehicles instead of petrol ones.

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Company

Nissan

"But everyone is retooling their factory for electric. Nissan is retooling their factory for electric. They all think electricity and EVs is what's here to stay."

Nissan is a car brand/company. In this discussion, it’s mentioned as one of the companies preparing to build electric vehicles, so sudden policy changes could disrupt those plans.

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EV future

"…manufacturers who've said that they're going to not do an all EV future already… [2429.0s] You've got other of the big brands that have decided that actually they're going to row back on some of their electric planners too."

“EV future” just means a plan where most cars become electric. In this segment, they’re talking about companies that are changing how quickly they want to make that shift.

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Brand

Rolls-Royce

"…manufacturers who've said that they're going to not do an all EV future already, you know, likes a Bentley, Rolls-Royce."

Rolls-Royce is a luxury car brand. Here it’s mentioned as an example of a company that’s not rushing into an all-electric-only future.

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Brand

Bentley

"…manufacturers who've said that they're going to not do an all EV future already, you know, likes a Bentley, Rolls-Royce."

Bentley is a luxury car maker. In this segment, it’s used as an example of a company that isn’t committing to switching everything to electric right away.

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Concept

carrot and stick analogy

"…some people are saying it's a slightly moot point at this stage anyway, because, you know, we've been doing the carrot and stick analogy, this is the stick, isn't it, the Zeb mandate?"

“Carrot and stick” is a way to describe rules that use rewards and threats. In this discussion, they’re saying the government is using the “stick” (a mandate) instead of letting people choose.

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charging stations

"There'll be commercial aspects to charging stations and chargers on houses and all that sort of thing, but it will happen. But it doesn't need forcing by politicians."

Charging stations are public or semi-public locations where EVs can be plugged in to recharge their batteries. The segment argues that charging availability—especially at homes—needs to keep up with EV adoption so drivers don’t feel “stuck” without convenient charging. That’s why the host says the transition should happen together rather than being driven by policy alone.

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Car

Tesla

"Like I said earlier in this podcast, I've really enjoyed running a Tesla. I've really enjoyed that. Actually, it's sort of turned my head a little bit to the possibilities."

Tesla is a company that makes electric cars. The host is saying they tried one and actually liked it, even though they used to be skeptical about EVs.

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EV skeptic

"And I have been, and listeners of this podcast will well know, I have been an EV skeptic. And that's because a lot of the electric cars I've driven up to that point"

An EV skeptic is someone who isn’t convinced electric cars are a good idea. Here, the host says they had bad experiences with other EVs, but a Tesla changed their mind.

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AI chatbot

"But I don't think anyone's really ready to switch over to an AI chatbot to do every inquiry at this point."

An AI chatbot is a computer program that can talk to people like a chat message. Dealerships use it to answer common questions or collect info before a real person takes over.

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Chat GPT

"Only if the customer has inquired via using chat GPT or AI in the first place."

ChatGPT is an AI tool that can chat and write responses. The point being made is that if a customer starts using AI first, the dealership may also use AI to handle the conversation.

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tire

"Like, you know, can you tell me whether the tire has ever been anywhere near a puddle?"

A tire is the rubber part that touches the road. The host is saying the AI is asking weird, unrealistic questions about things like puddles and tire exposure.

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brand loyalty

"And I just sort of wanted to wrap that up with some of the stats that we were told by AutoTrader yesterday about brand loyalty when it comes to these Chinese cars. Because what we've absolutely seen is that customers are very happy to ditch their Volkswagen's and Audi's and Ford's and Nissan's to go to these Chinese brands"

Brand loyalty means sticking with the same car brand you’ve trusted before. The host says fewer people care about a brand’s long history than they used to.

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Brand

AutoTrader

"And I just sort of wanted to wrap that up with some of the stats that we were told by AutoTrader yesterday about brand loyalty when it comes to these Chinese cars."

AutoTrader is a UK website/app where people buy and sell cars. In this segment, they’re the source of the survey-style stats about how brand loyalty is changing.

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Brand

Volkswagen's

"Because what we've absolutely seen is that customers are very happy to ditch their Volkswagen's and Audi's and Ford's and Nissan's to go to these Chinese brands with badges they've never heard of"

Volkswagen is a big car company from Germany. Here, it’s mentioned as a “usual” brand some people are replacing with newer Chinese brands.

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Brand

Audi's

"Because what we've absolutely seen is that customers are very happy to ditch their Volkswagen's and Audi's and Ford's and Nissan's to go to these Chinese brands with badges they've never heard of"

Audi is a well-known car brand from Germany, and it’s often considered more “premium” than basic models. In this discussion, it’s one of the brands people are switching away from.

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Brand

Ford's

"Because what we've absolutely seen is that customers are very happy to ditch their Volkswagen's and Audi's and Ford's and Nissan's to go to these Chinese brands with badges they've never heard of"

Ford is a big car company from the United States. The point in this segment is that some buyers are leaving brands like Ford for newer Chinese options.

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Brand

Skoda

"I think you could say Skoda, for example, is not a cheap, really cheap brand anymore. It's cheaper than Audi and cheaper than VW, but I wouldn't really say a Skoda is a budget car anymore."

Škoda is a car brand from the Volkswagen Group. The host is saying it used to feel cheaper, but it’s moved upmarket enough that some people may no longer see it as a bargain.

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Brand

Dacia

"And they all go to Dacia or when all the Omodas and I don't know, Cherries or whatever get a bit posher and get a bit higher in price."

Dacia makes relatively affordable cars. The host is using it as an example of where price-sensitive buyers might go if other brands stop feeling “cheap.”

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Brand

Cherry

"What franchise would you open tomorrow in Gosport for a Chinese brand? Probably a Chinese brand anyway. And you reckon, you quite fancy Cherry, don't you? [3299.4s] I did say Cherry."

Chery is a car brand from China. The hosts are talking about which Chinese brand might be a good dealership to open in the UK.

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Brand

GV

"I would go with GV, I think. Would you? Yeah, because I just think they're a little bit further down. They're a bit newer, aren't they? And they've got an enormous infrastructure in the UK already with factories here and there to make lotuses and taxis and so on and Volvo."

The speaker is talking about a Chinese car brand they think would be a good dealership franchise. The transcript only says “GV,” so the exact brand name isn’t fully clear here.

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Brand

Volvo

"And they've got an enormous infrastructure in the UK already with factories here and there to make lotuses and taxis and so on and Volvo. [3320.6s] They've got Volvo and Lope, whoever else, hundreds of brands, Polestar."

Volvo is a well-known car brand from Sweden. In this discussion, it’s used as an example of an established company with UK operations.

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Brand

Polestar

"They've got Volvo and Lope, whoever else, hundreds of brands, Polestar. [3326.2s] I'd be tempted to go for them."

Polestar is an electric car brand. The hosts mention it as one of the many brands that already have a presence in the UK.

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Brand

BMW

"So I think the most important part of that is this brand loyalty thing, because that's what's kept the likes of BMW and Audi and Volkswagen as kind of premium brands. [3350.8s] We all know that the Chinese product is extremely good now."

BMW is a well-known premium car brand from Germany. In this segment it’s used to explain how brand loyalty and recognizable styling help keep customers choosing a marque.

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Brand

Ferrari

"It's the likes of Porsche and Bentley and Rolls Royce and Ferrari. And I think what used to happen further down the price range is just not happening anymore."

Ferrari is an Italian supercar brand. In this segment it’s used to represent brands that still have a strong reputation and recognizable identity.

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Brand

Porsche

"If you look at the brands which actually still maintain a kudos for being a quality brand, they're all right at the top end of the spectrum now. It's the likes of Porsche and Bentley and Rolls Royce and Ferrari."

Porsche is a famous sports-car brand. The hosts are saying some brands still have a strong reputation for quality and recognizable identity.

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Brand

Mini

"Some of that may be down to the huge quantity of product that they actually build. I think one of them that does maintain identity is Mini. I think Mini's identity remains,"

Mini is a small car brand with a very recognizable look. The host is saying Mini still feels like itself, unlike some other brands that have started to look too similar.

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Brand

J-Cous

"But I think the overall picture is that the Chinese [3459.8s] the Chinese brand most of, well, I'm not over familiar. I see a lot of J-Cous around here. [3466.9s] And they, I may not like the look of them, but the quality is incredible for the money."

“J-Cous” sounds like a Chinese car brand name. The speaker is talking about how people are excited about these cars right now, but what happens later—especially when reselling—might be less favorable.

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Concept

honeymoon period

"We're in a honeymoon period, definitely with the Chinese at the moment. Yes, the brand, [3508.0s] the cars are fantastic. We're in a honeymoon period. And I think there's a lot more to come from this [3513.3s] in sort of three years time when they're coming back on the market again."

A “honeymoon period” means the early stage where people are really excited about something. The speaker thinks the excitement around these Chinese brands won’t last forever, especially once more cars are resold.

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market again

"And I think there's a lot more to come from this [3513.3s] in sort of three years time when they're coming back on the market again. But at the moment, [3517.9s] the manufacturers are all jumping in and they're all doing well out of it"

“Coming back on the market again” means these cars will eventually be resold. The speaker is suggesting that when lots of them show up used, prices could be lower.

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Brand

JLR

"Right, John, you've probably [3531.6s] got time of wedge one, small one in. Okay, we're very small one in which is JLR and how they have [3539.5s] talked about their future growth plans."

JLR is short for Jaguar Land Rover, a car company. They’re talking about JLR’s plans to grow and also cut costs.

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cost cutting agenda

"But they're also targeting this is my headline for it a 1.7 [3545.8s] billion pound cost cutting agenda, which to me is slightly doesn't quite go against the expansion [3554.7s] plans."

A “cost cutting agenda” means a company is trying to spend less money to improve results. The host says JLR is aiming for big cost reductions while still trying to grow.

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tariffs

"that at the moment with potential tariffs. And like, is that tariffs still a thing, James?"

Tariffs are taxes a government charges on imported goods. In car manufacturing, tariffs can make it more expensive to ship vehicles or parts across borders, which is why companies may build factories locally to “get around it.”

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warranty claims

"Warranty, the concerning one. [3626.7s] Yeah, exactly. Well, like, do they mean, they mean warranty costs and everything's suddenly going to get much more reliable and there won't be any warranty claims, or they're just going to deny every warranty claim that comes to them."

A warranty claim is when you ask the company to pay for repairs because the car is covered by its warranty. The host is wondering if cost cuts will mean fewer repairs get paid for.

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fixed costs

"And fixed costs. So good luck to them. [3642.1s] Good luck to them."

Fixed costs are bills a business has to pay regardless of how many cars it sells. The host is basically saying cost-cutting won’t magically remove those expenses.

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Car

Range Rover

"But of course, they are also going to less electrify, if I can put it in a very clunky way, brands like Range Rover Defender and, sorry, not brands, sub brands, they're sub"

Range Rover is a luxury SUV brand. They’re talking about which versions may be electrified sooner or later.

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Car

Defender

"But of course, they are also going to less electrify, if I can put it in a very clunky way, brands like Range Rover Defender and, sorry, not brands, sub brands, they're sub"

Defender is Land Rover’s tough, off-road SUV. The discussion is about how quickly different Land Rover lines are moving toward electric versions.

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Car

Discovery

"brands like Range Rover Defender and, sorry, not brands, sub brands, they're sub brands like Range Rover Defender and Discovery."

Discovery is a Land Rover SUV that’s aimed more at families. They’re saying some of these models may not go electric as quickly as planned.

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Zed mandate

"Well, I think I think because of the the size of the story to call in the phrase, it's got to be the Zed mandate. It's got to be because that's that's so crucial to the future, you know, the future of the motor trade in general."

“Zed mandate” is a government push to make car sales move toward zero-emission vehicles, like electric cars. It matters to dealerships because it changes what cars they’re expected to sell and have available.

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