BMW M3 Goes Electric?! The Corvette ZR1X! Why is Doug Disappointed?

Hello and welcome to this car pod. I'm Filippo. I'm Nick. Nick's here today

filling in for Kenan and we got a lot to talk about. Start with the news. Ah yes,

the big news story of the week. The new Corvette ZR1X. Did you read these

numbers, Nick? It gets to be such small numbers that it doesn't even make sense

anymore. The ZR1X, they've already established what it is that it's crazy

and it's insane. It's an even higher performance version of the regular ZR1.

However, today, this week, they announced 0 to 60 and quarter mile times on a prep

surface, which you can see here. 0 to 60 in 1.68 seconds. I know. It is on a

prep surface, but it's on pump gas. Pump gas! And a prep surface is like it's a

drag strip in Michigan. How prep, I mean maybe not in Michigan at this time of

year, but how prep could it, it's not like, obviously it helps the tires hook up

and all that stuff, but it's not like they took the car to the moon or some

other thing that is impossible to replicate. You could do this. You could

do this. So is this thing caged? Are they getting DQ'd and kicked out after one

pass? Quarter mile time, to answer your question, is it 8.675 at 160 miles an

hour. You wouldn't get kicked out, but what we do in the community is we do

that. After the eighth, we slam on the brakes right before the end and then we

run a 13. That's like how it's done. You're riding your draggy just to get

your time to the gate. Oh, holy... Exactly. Large bit in the Fast and the

Furious movies with a UO me a 10 second car. It turns out all you need is 208

grand and you can have one tomorrow. Well, you could have a plaid for 45 if you

want a 10 second car. This is an eight second. Right. Good point. You can beat it. This is an

eight second car. Yeah. It's wild. We're not that far off of Top Fuel Dragsters.

You ever see a Top Fuel Dragster? Yeah. Here's how it goes. Here's how it goes.

And then they rebuild the motor each pass. What the viewers don't know is that the

three of us went drag racing recently. Right. Our times were a little longer.

Yeah. Well, we did a... It was 16 miles. And they were still actually... I think it was

shorter. Yeah. You're right. I had a 1.78 response time.

You do wonder, okay, your problem with four GTs of like the dealer's not wanting to work on it.

Like, imagine your average Chevy dealer trying to fix a one second zero to 60 car with an

eight second quarter mile. It's a pump gas car. It's like it runs like a normal car.

I think it is just a Corvette. Isn't it just... I guess. It's just a Corvette. I love it.

And what it is also is it's just the twin turbo V8 from the regular ZR1. Plus,

it's got the hybrid from the E-Ray, right? Right. And then it's combined for 1250 horsepower.

It's not that out of the realm insane for a dealer's... This is a car that Corvette,

that's even the Chevrolet makes. Yeah. When Dodge came out with the Hellcat Demon, whatever,

which also had a sub 10 quarter mile time if memory serves. Yeah. That kind of made sense.

But this is like a competent car that isn't just going fast. Yeah. I just drove this regular ZR1.

I had it for a couple of days when I was in Detroit and by a couple of days, I mean less than 24

hours. It was great. You could drive it around. I drove it around Warren in October. It's cold.

There's geese everywhere. You can go around corners. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's... And you can go and pick

one of these up. Might you? No. I am... You're a Corvette. Weirdly into E-Rays. I think an E-Ray is

like a eventual buy. E-Rays are rare. I know, but they're a deal. They're deals. It's zero six

performance. With a hybrid. And I love hybrids. And it's four wheels drive. That's a good guess.

Yeah. Then I can't do burnouts. You don't need to do burnouts. You know what the E-Ray is? Yes.

Oh, wow. I have to say too, remember the SSC2 Etara that kind of had a big scandal about

claiming a top speed. That wasn't true. It's zero to 60 and what they could verify is slower.

It's quarter mile is slower. And that car, they pushed it to the brink of breaking to the point

part of the reason they couldn't validate their times is because it broke down before they could

do like the down and back. And looking it up, that car had 1750 horsepower on 85,

1350 on 91, which means it had more power than this. It's still zero to 60 was two and a half

seconds. So it was much slower. Now, who knows what this does on normal street, but my guess is two.

One point. Probably. And that, by the way, is faster than a Chiron, faster than a Ruelto.

I could probably keep Googling other supercars and faster than that too. The only thing it's

not faster than is the craziest of the electric stuff. However, if that's still pretty insane

when you think about it, because it's right there with the craziest of the electric stuff.

The Sapphire, which is Lucid's most powerful car is 1.89.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's probably what this will do on a regular road.

Pretty incredible. Going to be the all time greatest Corvette, truly.

Until the next one. Until the X-Acts.

Maybe, but like, you can't really get faster than this.

That's what we've been saying for, I mean, they gotta follow it up somehow.

I've always, I never, I never was saying that until about now. Like, I think zero to 60 cars

went in 10 years ago. We're doing like three and a half. That was fast. But you always knew there

was more. Right.

That could happen. And then the EVs came and it got there. And now this is here. But cars aren't

going to be doing zero to 60 in 0.7 seconds. It won't, it's just not going to be occurring.

I want to tell, like, make you all experience 1.67 seconds. That's what it is, right?

Yeah.

All right. You're going to be quiet for 1.67 seconds from.

Oh, wow. Filippo's doing a little, nothing like, nothing like two seconds of quiet.

Well, I could have been two beautiful seconds of quiet, but that, the time for you to say that,

the car would have been going 60 miles an hour.

And 8.8 seconds.

It would have been going 150.

160.

Crazy.

Yeah, it's quick, dude. People are going to crash these.

Yeah.

You know who's going to crash them? You know what I was just thinking of? College athletes

are going to crash.

Because they can be paid now.

They get paid.

Yeah.

You know what? I read a statistic because Belichick is coaching UNC.

70% of UNC's football team has gotten a moving violation since he started coaching.

Oh, turn that, you give people even younger than NFL stars money.

Wow.

They will spend it in response.

It's wild. It's absolutely wild.

Okay. Move on to our next story, which is that the Tokyo Auto Salon was BS.

We at the Cars and Bids podcast, what is this called?

We no longer support the Tokyo Auto Salon.

We don't believe in it.

We don't accept it.

We think it's a bunch of trivial non-news.

We're not going to even talk about it next year.

It's also poorly named.

There's not even a salon.

Okay. So last week, we reported that Toyota was going to debut a secret new mid-engine car.

And we respect that.

And he's in an MR2.

There had been rendering shown.

Everyone was excited.

The internet was a buzz.

It turned out to be a K car on chunky tires.

Yep.

That's BS, but even worse than that.

And Toyota's like thinks they pulled the wool over everybody's eyes.

No, you just disappointed us.

We hate you.

Move on to the next one.

The Subaru was like, we're going to do an STI.

You remember this new story?

We're going to do an STI.

Well, it turned out to be a cosmetic trim package on the WRX.

How much more power does it have?

Less.

It was, well, sorry.

That's the same horse power.

Less torque.

In true STI tradition, it's got less performance.

Yep.

And it's also called the STI Sport Sharp.

Isn't sport sharp?

Like the hashtag sharp.

Sport sharp is their sport mode.

That's what it is.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's the name of their sport mode.

It takes some things from what was the WRX TS spec B, which is Japan only.

So as Brembo breaks, adaptive suspension and ultra suede seats,

they added some red and called it an STI.

I mean, this is the biggest.

The Tokyo Auto Salon was a complete dud.

And if you're an organizer of the Tokyo Auto Salon and you're not,

we will never talk about your dud of a show ever again.

Did anything important get revealed there like a new overtrail LX?

No.

I will say it to the organizer of the auto salon.

I still wish I were there.

I mean, it would have been cool.

I want I want to go.

I don't wish I was there to see what the sport sharp.

Yeah.

I mean, you're not wrong.

The mid engine K vehicle.

Aren't you disappointed by this?

Oh, incredibly.

It was so sad.

It could have been something good.

That one was pretty easy to not screw up.

Like the STI formula has been around forever.

Subaru just refuses to I just I've been trying to make sense of it for a long time.

And I just think they don't want these people in their showrooms anymore.

I think they want to pivot to a different type of company,

which is reasonable, I guess.

But then why bother?

It kind of reminds me of like the AMG trim package.

Yes.

You know, like all you're really doing is watering down the brand.

Like it's just, I don't get it.

And by the way, if you're curious whether this will come to the US,

the answer is we don't care.

So true.

Next story.

We're not talking about the Tokyo Auto Salon any more ever again.

But we will talk about the FBI.

The FBI.

There have been a bunch of news stories about Cash Patel who heads up the FBI

choosing armored BMWs instead of the armored Suburbans.

Cash Patel.

They bought the FBI bought some undisclosed number.

Could be a really small number.

Could be a large number of armored X5s.

And honestly, I'm like supportive of this for a couple of reasons.

And this is not going to be a popular take, but for a couple of reasons.

Oh, well, we're going to get into politics right here.

No, no, no.

Let's do a couple things.

So why do you support it?

So these are about half the price of a GM defense suburban.

Everybody knows that you see a suburban 2500.

It is a federally owned vehicle.

Well, period.

And so that is maybe a little bit more

discreet and also it's half the price.

Well, yeah.

But does it offer the same level of capability?

Apparently of armory of capability is a good question.

As X5 is certainly smaller.

So you lose smaller.

It's different.

And also it's still built in the U.S.

They're built in Spartanburg, South Carolina.

Spartanburg, South Carolina by non-union labor.

So I got to assume that factored in.

So I can accept that there is value in having a mix of armored vehicles.

And I appreciate that they're nevertheless U.S. built.

Yeah, I agree with some of what you're saying.

I do not agree with that take.

I agree with some of what you're saying.

I will get GM authority.

I will say the one drawback is I'm curious whether it offers

the same level of protection.

Now, when you go to DC and you see the armored

suburban, there are different levels that clearly you can tell.

Like some of them have completely different wheels and tires,

which must be some sort of, you know, gun penetrated,

can still drive on.

And some are just on regular wheels and tires.

Some of them have a really thick armor in the rear windows

and everything.

Some of them are less so.

Yeah.

I don't know what level this is.

I will say find out.

The FBI also has a multimillion dollar multi-year deal

with GM defense.

So they're still going to be buying suburban from them.

And they also already had a deal with BMW to build armored

like diplomatic vehicles.

So I suspect they just like bought some additional ones

or mixed it up.

My presumption has been, even though it hasn't really been

reported how they're going to be used,

my presumption has been that these are going to be primarily

for like big wig FBI people did right around Langley.

Where's, is that where they are?

No, that's the CIA.

Well, we've got to figure out where the FBI, probably DC.

Should figure that out.

Regardless, get ready for some armored X5.

Let's hope when the armor, they do the big three

while they're in there.

Imagine it just breaks down.

Have you been in there?

The, the Vanos falls apart.

You're saying, but you hold that.

The, the, the, the factory.

I mean like, you can't, you can't kill an LS,

but a BMW motor.

I mean, you don't need to shoot at it.

Just make it go 2000 miles without a service.

It's the B58 man.

Sitting duck.

It's the B58 reliable.

Oh my God.

That's so true.

It's the B58.

It's a great engine.

I'm sure.

The big three, the big three being what?

Vanos, SMG.

Rod bearings.

I don't know.

I'm sure they knew the rod bearings on the new car.

It is.

Armoring adds like 2500 pounds.

And so you got to assume that's only going to make it worse.

Oh my God.

While they're in there.

It comes out of the factory.

They rebuilt it and sold our motor.

Rebuilt the motor.

Let's be real.

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All right, move on to our next news story.

Oh, speaking of BMW.

Yes, a concept being released and likely to happen in EVM3,

which already sounds sacrilegious enough.

They are going to draw some cues from Hyundai.

It's an electric M3.

When I was a child, there was a Chrome M3,

and it broke the internet, and now we have an EVM3.

All right, so on that, can I give you some actual information?

Quad motor, but they say rear-wheel drive,

so you're going to be able to dial it.

You can either dial it or disconnect the front motors.

It's also be able to drive.

What other information do you have?

We have simulated gear shifts.

Simulating gear shifts is a huge deal.

They did a bunch of deep dives.

BMW must have done a large release earlier this week,

but they apparently are creating a whole different battery chemical structure

to make it so that the motors are a little bit more responsive,

or the battery can deliver power a little bit more quickly,

and then recharge more quickly and do regenerative braking.

It's like an other BMW thing that's going to fail.

Cash Patel should be on one of these.

Yeah, it's going to be a little question.

You're missing the most important part,

which is even in camouflage, it looks better than the outgoing M3.

The current M3 looks great.

That's great. The grills are a normal size.

The current M3 is one of the great cars,

and if this becomes the only M3,

then everything I've ever said about the current M3 will come true,

which is that it was the last and best,

and that someday we will look back at those grills and love them.

There's a high performance control unit in the new class M3, apparently.

Can you guess what they call it?

The Emotion Love Center.

Oh, you're so close.

The Heart of Joy.

This is Germans.

They name stuff like that because they don't know emotion,

but they hear words and they...

I drive when everyone had iPod and little I, whatever.

Right, they hear these things and they think,

and this must be how Italians feel.

No, they have emotion.

They would name something the Heart of Joy, right?

And then they ask the one Italian.

Okay, that's all interesting.

It is cool. It will be cool.

It will be truly.

I'm excited for it.

I hope that they still have a gas engine one.

You do got to wonder the segment for sedan EVs, high-powered,

like ask Lucid how that's going.

Well, yeah, but the segment for M3s is hot.

But this is no longer an M3.

It's as much an M3 as the Mustang Mach-E is a Mustang.

No, no.

It's a little different from that.

How?

The Mustang Mach-E, well, the Mustang Mach-E is an SUV hatchback.

The M3, this M3 sedan, the current M3 is also a sedan.

The M3 is the size of my grandpa's seven series for one.

Sure.

It's no longer a sports car whatsoever.

I don't know.

It's going to look like the next generation M3, regardless.

It'll be priced like that and all that.

I just hope they still do a gas version as well.

And I have a suspicion that this isn't going to sell in great numbers.

You know, somebody wrote into us and they were mad about our EV sales take.

They were like, EVs were way up last year.

Why didn't you say that?

Because that's not the story.

That's not the story.

We know what happened first.

We're trying to change that one.

We're trying to control the narrative, folks.

No, the story is that the incentive goes away.

People aren't buying the cars.

Yes, overall sales were up.

Let's see what happens this year.

Also, global sales were up, period, which we talked about.

I do want to see, I'm very curious what happens with a next generation M3

if it's fully electric.

I do think that new class thing looks cool.

Which is what this is based off to.

Right, this is the new one.

It's interesting.

Right, so even manufacturers that are pulled back from EVs.

GM has done a huge write down.

Ford has done a huge write down of their EV programs.

They have all said, their leaders have said,

they think that the timeline is a little longer,

but they still really expect EVs to be the future of their brand.

Just instead of being in 2030, it'll be in some year later.

BMW kind of does need to continue to invest in this to be prepared for that.

Will it be selling huge numbers?

Maybe, maybe not, but they still need to have it at some point.

Audi did kill the RS6 e-tron.

You have to imagine the regular RS e-tron is not long for the world.

Like it's weird everyone else is retreating from the segment

and BMW's jumping two feet into the deep end.

They're retreating with some model.

The RS e-tron has, the e-tron GT or whatever it's called,

has been out for a while at this point.

It's a pretty big product.

Then they have pushed back release of other ones.

This car is not coming out this year.

Right, it's not coming out.

Better not.

So it's 27 and we still don't know how the market's going to be.

For all we know, this exact car is going to have a V8 also.

Also, I think, BMW also, as all the German brands do,

focus a lot on Europe as a core market.

And I think in Europe, the performance EVs are a real play.

I guess we'll find out.

I'm excited to see.

I am excited that some of these details are pretty impressive.

Quad motors is cool, shiftable stuff is cool,

and it's got a heart of joy.

Move on to the next story.

Got a heart of joy.

Also a heart of joy.

Ford has teased, by the time you all are watching this,

it will have come out because it's coming out tomorrow.

There's being revealed tomorrow.

But Ford has teased that the dark horse Mustang

will have a supercharger.

They haven't said it.

They've implied.

We've all been talking about how the GT350 went away

and the world is ending.

Well, now they're coming out with some powerful stuff.

Yep.

How do you feel about it?

Good.

I mean, the GTD is so cool.

That's the halo car.

Then you need to have the whole product line to support it.

This is that.

Well, this has 500 horsepower.

The regular dark horse has 500 horsepower already.

So you got to figure a blown one 6-ish something.

You see the commonality here?

The Americans are putting out the Corvette XXXXx

that goes zero to 60 in 1.6.

Supercharged Mustang is that 500 horsepower isn't enough.

Americans are embracing,

Americans are embracing.

We're doing power.

We're doing big engines.

The Japanese are doing dumb stuff nobody wants.

And the Germans have that electric thing.

So the world is really,

We thought globalization would bring us all together.

Instead, we're getting frayed.

You gotta do what you're good at.

You've got to do what you're good at.

There's no monoculture even in the automotive industry

globally, and on that subject, our next news story,

the death of the plug-in hybrid.

Stellantis has killed all of its plug-in hybrids.

Are you aware of this?

I knew they were on a stop sale.

I didn't know that they had just stopped selling.

They were on a stop sale because there were a lot of fires.

Yes.

And so maybe they couldn't fix those fires

and I would have just stopped selling.

No, no, we're not gonna say that.

Because it's not true in a sketch.

The four by E's are gone.

So with great fanfare, a couple of years ago,

Jeep came out with all these four by E's,

which we all called four XE until they told us we were wrong.

Did you?

Everyone did, including you.

No, four by E makes sense, doesn't that?

Yeah, no, but it will think four by four, four by E.

God.

What?

The point is, we're a journalist for every, no one knew.

No one knew.

We only saw it written.

The point is, now it's here and now it's gone.

It's sad.

I'm legitimately sad about this.

Wasn't there a time when this was the most popular plug-in?

All of last year, remember I said to you before that,

a lot of that was fleet sales.

If you go to your local enterprise or similar,

you'll see a lot of Wrangler four by E's.

They were selling.

Are you got union contracts, fleet sales are gold,

or at least silver.

One time I had to go pick up a subcompact

and they're like, hey, do you want a four by E?

It's like, no.

I don't actually.

The Wrangler is gone, the Grand Cherokee four by E

is gone, the Pacifico plug-in hybrid.

The Pacifico plug-in hybrid is gone.

It's gone.

Which is the only plug-in hybrid minivan.

That was your favorite.

That was my dream.

Well, the general reason,

it was the only plug-in hybrid minivan.

However, when I talked to,

I have known an enormous number of fairly young parents

who are all interested potentially in minivans.

And the primary thought about the Pacifico plug-in hybrid

was on paper, it looks the best.

However, they're afraid it will not work.

And I always had to explain to them,

you're right, it will not work.

Correct.

Sad, but true.

It will not ever run.

Jeep was the most, everybody understands broadly

in the industry that hybrids and plug-in hybrids

are the way to electrification.

Well, maybe not Philanthus.

Maybe they don't agree.

Although I will say, Tim...

Caniscus.

Caniscus has said that plug-in hybrids will be back.

It makes sense that they will.

Oh my goodness.

Okay, we gotta move on to our,

is that our last news turn?

No, we have one more.

Okay, we gotta move on to our next news story,

which is manual transmissions.

This is seven speed.

You know what that car that's in?

Porsche.

Yeah.

All right.

Porsche guy, Porsche podcast.

Porsche podcast.

Number one Porsche podcast in the world.

Yeah, you know, I'm kind of proud of that.

Cause Spike was over here saying he was number one

and look at us.

We all three of us have Porsches, including you.

All Nick does is complain about how he doesn't want

to talk about Porsches.

Me too, by the way.

And he's over here, who was driven a Porsche the most?

I know, that's what hit me is that I'm putting 12,000 miles

a year on a Porsche.

So I, I'm King Porsche guy in this group.

Nick's got a $9,000 used Cayenne.

Congratulations.

I love it.

Especially now that I no longer have a bent wheel on it,

it drives so much better.

Okay, what's our manual transmission story?

I apologize, I got stuck on a rug.

All right.

Our friends at motor one asked every manufacturer

what the manual take rate was for each model in the line.

Yep.

Do you want to guess a few?

Okay, give me a car and I guess.

I would say give me a car.

It's like 4%.

All right.

So BMW M2.

M2?

Yep.

15%.

30.

40% of M2 sold last year were made.

Wow, that's a huge number.

M3s, we'll keep going.

15%.

35.

All right.

So M3, the base M3 is available with the manual.

50% of M3s that were available with the manual,

had a manual.

M3, once you add an M3 comps, M3 extras, whatever,

between six and 10%.

Huh.

That's actually not so bad considering that

they really want you to get in the auto

because the auto has the more power.

Yep.

How bad?

Yeah.

CT5B black one?

60.

15.

48%.

The CT4 view is 61.

Wow.

Yep.

It shows you that there's a very small sliver of people

who even want those cars.

And that small sliver.

Wants a manual.

Similarly, the mirror was 88% manual.

Wow.

The what car?

The Lotus and mirror.

Wow.

88% makes sense.

That makes sense.

If you're skipping a lot of traditional manufacturers,

you want a non-traditional experience.

Let me ask you three more.

Okay.

9-Elevens.

All trim levels.

Not including GT3s or other, they're separated out.

3%.

Five?

All right.

So if you include all 9-Eleven, like non-GT3 trims, 15%.

I don't find that.

If you look just at the trims that were available

with the manual, which I don't remember for 25,

some of them, 83%.

Well, I think that's,

isn't that only the Crerati?

I think that the time,

the base one may have been available with the manual too,

but yeah.

Isn't it 992.2, and it's anyway, okay, fine.

I think it switched powers here.

87% of Crerati.

Basically 83% of Crerati is had a manual.

That's no surprise.

That car is one of the great manual cars.

Similarly, 83% of GT3 Tourings last year.

Yeah, of course, of course.

And I'll give you one more, the Subaru BRZ.

You know, 60% manual.

Probably higher, 65.

What is it?

I feel like Subaru would screw this up.

30%?

My goodness.

Subaru BRZ was 90% manual.

Now the GR86, which is identical,

only 52% manual.

Yeah, it's lower.

One of them is way lower.

You know, I will say though, when they come up for sale,

I get what you said,

but when I've watched them come up for sale,

they're always manual.

Very rare to see an auto.

Tacoma is 1%.

Yeah, but that's still probably

a pretty big number of cars.

Yeah.

Because BRZs,

because GR86 is half of 7,000 sales for manuals,

1% of Tacomas, they sell 2,000 Tacomas a year.

What is interesting is Volkswagen,

only the GLI in 2025 with the Ville de Saint.

Really?

Because the GTI and Golf R are automatic only.

I looked, in 2024,

GTIs and Golf R's were both around 50% manual.

Wow, and they got rid of the manual.

How insane, this company is so lost.

It's so insane.

They cannot find their own way there.

Such a disaster.

You have 50% of people choosing it for a manual,

and yet they are not buying it.

So what was GLI?

45%.

So clearly people still want it.

They're gonna cancel that one too,

and they're gonna give us,

you know what they're gonna do?

After taking a year off with the 80 Buz,

they're gonna come back with a more expensive,

longer version.

Okay.

Of that list he has, if you just average all of them,

it's 53%.

So if you offer a manual more than half the time

people take, did he just say that?

That isn't a reasonable take,

but it's not how I would do that now.

That's not how it works.

It is.

I'm gonna be honest.

Korea and Tokyo are very close together,

but we digress.

On this list is the Pagani Utopia.

We're apparently 75% of that manual.

So we average it.

Me, me, me, four.

Three out of the four.

These averaging all of them together.

It's math, all right.

It's math.

You got it.

All right, we gotta move on to the talk cars segment.

Talk cars segment is sponsored by Nick as a Porsche guy.

Wow.

Nick, a Porsche guy.

And I wanna start the talk cars segment

with some horrible news.

Last week I announced, or two weeks ago,

I don't remember when we did this podcast last.

Feels like an attorney.

I announced, you've got the car mom.

Okay, I announced that I was interested in a Lexus LX.

And a couple of days later, Kelly, the car mom,

who I think is the greatest automotive influencer.

And I mean that sincerely.

She made a video talking about how terrible

the Lexus LX is for families.

It doesn't have child tethers in the third row.

It's too tight.

This little bar blocks car seats.

It sounds like it's a nightmare, honestly.

And Kelly, all she does is take car seats

in and out of cars and film them.

She's like, it's like an incredible gig.

Like she's really good at this.

So she says it's bad, it's bad.

So I showed this reel to my wife.

Cause we've been talking about how I want an over-trail.

I want an over-trail, I want an over-trail.

She showed this reel to my wife.

She said, we are not under any circumstances

getting this car.

So I think we're 50-50.

Yeah, that's not right.

By the way, everything she pointed out were questions

I asked you about your purchase.

What do you mean?

I asked.

Do you think you can actually fit three people across

in the second row?

You could fit three across in the second row.

No question.

With two car seats.

It is harder if car seats are not...

I asked if you had space in the trunk.

Of course I did.

I asked if you had space in the trunk.

You also said you could put...

There is a ton of space in the trunk.

Regardless.

She and I are on the same page.

Look, I think the over-trail,

you gotta understand something.

And Kelly, I emailed Kelly in a panic after this.

And she got back to me, it was very nice.

We had a little exchange in which she told me

I should get a defender.

She said that that's the best.

If you want an adventure car that's kid-capable,

the defender's the one.

And I was like, nah, I had one, I'm good.

And she called me a unicorn.

Yeah?

In the sense that what I'm looking for...

So many senses.

It doesn't really exist.

So many senses.

Thank you so much.

And so I don't know what to do.

Keep the sequoia.

No, I don't want to keep the sequoia.

Well, here's what I want.

QX80.

I want a car that is off...

No, that doesn't have the off-road equipment

I'm looking for.

Absolute.

Armada Pro 4X.

I want a car, I want to be able to have three across

in the back, ideally with car seats,

off-road capability, it's great self-driving.

And I want it to not look like the sequoia.

Like when I'm driving it around,

I don't want people to think

that guy was there on January 6th.

You know what I'm saying?

I don't mind it to look...

And I've said that I'm on the record saying

I don't mind it to look a little Republican.

That's like totally fine with me.

We have an E-Class wagon, which in my opinion

is the most subtle Republican car.

I just don't want it to look like I am literally

carrying around a trove of firearms in the trunk.

Do you know what I'm saying?

Right.

We can't do a Tahoe.

Tahoe, I think, is less...

What is so out there?

But I also want it to last for a long time.

And so we can't do a Tahoe.

Dude, I have a neighbor who bought a Tahoe diesel.

Dude's getting 800 miles on a tank of gas.

800 miles on a tank of gas.

This car won't last.

That's my problem with Land Rover.

I want to buy this car and I never want to talk

about buying a daily driver again as long as I live, ever.

That's going to be tough.

Also, their configurator doesn't look...

That says everything you need to know.

Anyway, the car mom has talked me out of Alexis LX.

I am screwed now.

Does that mean...

And I hate to ask a question and prolong more discussion

over this car I could care less about.

But does that mean Philippa's attempts to low ball

the selling dealer did not come out?

Can I tell you what happened?

Okay, so I mentioned this is a great story.

There's a great ending to this.

I mentioned last week on the pod

that I was particularly interested in this one LX

over trail at a dealer in Chicago.

It was CPO.

And I only want a CPO car.

They're like 15 grand off the warranties longer.

I only want a CP.

I don't care about the mileage.

So, Filippo's reaches out like 20 times.

I don't know.

Give me a deal.

The dealer's like, we won't go.

We won't deal.

This is our price.

Okay, a few days later, they email Filippo

and they're like, we're going to come down on price $500.

And then, Filippo's like, okay,

I want to deal on that number.

And they're like, nope, we're firm now at this number.

They said by email to me that they were firm

at their asking, which was 111 something.

Two days later, I get an automated email saying,

the price on the car you reached out about went down $500.

So I emailed them.

They didn't email me proactively.

I was like, do you have a little bit

of extra flexibility now?

No, we're firm.

By the way, the car's brother a lot since October.

I'm not particularly interested in this car anymore

because I don't want to deal with all this.

And then didn't Sean,

the producer Sean SEAN at carsandbids.com

did email them also and Sean claimed he got it down

like 20 grand and then they went quiet.

I told them I would hit it at 102

because they want 112.

He said he got him to 102, but then for some reason

I never call ever saw sales contract.

Got him to 102.

Anyway, I'm not sure if I should even do this anymore.

I reached out to the president people, which I never do.

And I said, can I get a press car this

to figure out if it's going to work with my family?

And they said they don't have one anymore.

So we're screwed, dude.

You're not getting an Alex of a hundred.

Why not?

My sports cars have you finish it for me.

No.

My sports cars have three pedals

and my SUVs have three lockers.

Am I right?

I don't think I have those.

You have neither.

Three lockers, you do not.

Or pedals.

Or yeah, you do not have three pedals.

So it's unclear what will work in the Land Rover

at any given time.

But if I had three lockers,

they would not have, I'd have one and a half.

We just don't.

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We got to talk also about the Coinbase NSX.

So, look at this.

This is one of the craziest things

that we've ever done on cars and bits.

We've got this deal with Coinbase.

Can you introduce the promotion and talk about the car?

All right, so we are working with Coinbase,

which is like the largest American cryptocurrency exchange

for Bitcoin and all other cryptos

to auction this NSX off for USDC,

which is a stable coin pegged to the US dollar.

So, we find this NSX.

This car has 320,000 miles.

We plucked it out of the Midwest.

It's a one owner car.

And we're now auctioning it on the site.

Remains a one owner car because we didn't title it.

And so you can get,

you can be the second owner of this 320,000 mile 95 NSXT.

I drove this car around.

We're doing some real work to the car

to make sure that it's like really prepped

and ready for sale.

I mean, it's gonna be like really, really ready to go.

However, I drove the car pre-engine work

and it drove amazingly.

And we've all been talking in the office

about how there's no way any Ferrari

would have made it to 320,000 miles,

let alone drive as well.

You couldn't tell.

This car had nowhere.

Everything was perfect.

The only thing when we got it

and the only item in the entire interior that was worn

was the cruise control button,

which I think gives you an idea

of how the previous owner was using it.

So it's a lot of engine time at low,

at idle speeds on freeways.

But it was incredible to drive this car.

No other exotic car I can think of

could do this kind of miles and stay in this kind of shape.

Proving the testament

to what everybody's always said about the NSX.

It was like a Ferrari, but a reliable one.

And this car is that.

It's truly, we have service records going back a long way.

But it's not like this required, like,

monthly maintenance to get to that point.

No, it just didn't.

It was a Honda.

The dude did 320,000 miles in a Honda,

like you might do in an Odyssey,

taking your kids to hockey games.

Right.

But it was an NSX.

He was an engineer or something of that sort in Indiana

and just clearly drove it on the highway console.

To be fair, he had it for 30 years.

And I did 300,000 miles, 10,000 miles a year-ish.

That's a normal youth for your daily driver.

It's impressive, though, for that car.

He told us, go back to the,

he told us that he initially bought an automatic.

Was this the story?

And he realized it wasn't for him.

He replaced it with a manual.

And he had the automatic for like six months.

Placed it with a manual and it for 30 years.

Had a sense.

And 320,000 miles.

The condition is wild.

Have you driven this car?

No.

It's really nice.

Have you driven it?

No.

Somehow I have.

So, so, so nice.

Look at that.

82.

Yep.

That's a lot of money back in 95.

Yeah, it is.

And then he added a CD changer.

CD changer.

How much do you think that is?

About 900 bucks at that day.

Current CD.

Probably 160, 170.

175,000, yeah.

How much was the CD charger in today's money?

Well, 1,800 bucks.

It's about double.

Yeah, yeah, double.

1,800.

1,800 bucks for a CD changer.

But think about how many hours he was listening to CD.

Yeah, that's true.

This dude knew what he needed.

Good R-Laga.

Crazy.

I'm excited about the auction.

This car is just wild.

There are no comps about it.

Yeah, there can't be.

No comps.

We have no idea what to sell for.

We have no idea what to tell you to pay for it.

No NSX has ever come up with miles like this.

The ones that have high miles tend to have been

passed around to 14 people and they're lowered,

which is fine.

The community deserves cheaper ones too.

But this car isn't that.

Like OE wheels, this is a clean, clean, clean, clean.

With a lot in maintenance.

We're getting a bunch of work done at the shop

in Southern California for these cars.

Also, and I apologize if you already said this

and I tuned out, but there's no accidents.

Like statistically driving 300,000 miles,

someone's going to rear end you,

you're going to scrape a door like Hoovey did

with this Galway.

Half of all accidents happen in intersections

and I honestly bet 300,000 to 1,000 miles.

Is this guy working like a hotshot rig?

Like that's crazy.

It was just over 30 years.

Yeah, I know.

No accidents, no rust.

The body looks great.

The car was clean despite being an idiot.

Is this your goal for the Fiat 500?

Another 25 years, 10,000 miles a year.

Well, for the Fiat 500 is to either drop it off a cliff

or sell it.

Yeah, that's what people have been saying,

but it's still around.

I door-dinged it earlier, getting into that Lexus.

I told Ken and asked whether he could do a video cleaning it.

And I said, I don't care.

And I also said that I am ambivalent

between him doing a video cleaning it

and him doing a video showing you how to key a car.

And I care the same amount of whichever I want.

Sean is telling me that the NSX was driven every year

to the guy's summer house in Florida.

Wow.

Probably he means winter house in Florida, I would assume.

Yeah, you know.

But that explains also why there's no rust,

because presumably it wasn't in Indiana during that time.

Yep.

What a special car.

Super excited to see what it sells for.

Obviously happy to do the partnership with Coinbase,

who's been a wonderful partner in this

and very supportive of us finding this really special car

and doing this promotion.

I just think it's really cool.

But I'm especially excited to see

where the market values this car.

I know.

I'll tell you this, from a drivability perspective,

from a usability perspective,

it feels like a car with 30,000 miles.

The market will not value it at that number.

But then you gotta wonder, where is it?

I don't know.

Don't have any idea.

Before I bought my 911,

we've obviously had this car around for a little bit

as we were filming all the content.

We knew it was gonna come up for sale.

I've considered buying it.

I don't think that it's that different in price.

Yeah.

But it could be worth it.

Yeah.

It's an amazing car.

It's also a lot of fun to drive.

That car is so well balanced

and the shifter and clutch are so slick.

It is just such a nice car.

I'm worried it'll be a real pricey car.

Not worried.

I mean, like, great.

I don't think so.

I think the market is gonna hit it for the miles.

But someone who buys it, who wants a driver,

is gonna get really, really, really a great car.

It could be the second owner of a 1995 NSXG.

I wanna talk about Mickey's Hot Dogs in Lisa.

Yeah.

Gladly.

I'm gonna be at an event that we're throwing

alongside of Vans, which is like a car community,

during Arizona car week or Arizona auction week,

whatever they're calling it down there

to try to make it a thing.

On Friday the 23rd.

I will be there.

Nick, I believe, will be there.

But Nick has not made any hot dog offers.

Only I have.

Is this event, it's not actually at Mickey's,

it's near Mickey's.

It's near Mickey's.

It is at a place called The Warehouse.

Is this event open to the public?

Or do you have to be at?

You have to be at a Vans member

or we have a sub number of reserved entries

if you enter from our community post

that is part of the public car.

Okay, so we link the community post.

If you go on to the events part of Cars and Bids,

you'll see this there.

You can enter and you can get in

or you can join the Vans,

which is a really cool like car social organization.

And again, the best car there,

Filippo is gonna take you out afterwards

to Mickey's Hot Dogs.

Folks, I don't know if you've been to Mickey's

but it's over on Broadway and McDonald there in Mesa.

And it's great stuff.

They got relished there.

Nick, you ever been to Mickey's?

No.

I've been to the Wiener Circle in Chicago.

You ever spent time in Mesa, Nick?

Oh yeah, of course.

I mean, I lived in Tempe.

This was like backyard.

Tempe Mesa is like, there's very blurry distinction.

Nick, you didn't go?

You never went over to Mickey's at that time?

Been a vegetarian for 20 years.

You know, do you think Mickey's

doesn't have a vegetarian menu?

They might.

I'll go.

The caveat here with this contest is

I'm either bringing the Multipla or the SLR.

Either way, I have a good out of winning

Filippo's favorite car.

I just clicked on the menu for Mickey's.

Oh my goodness.

Here are the options.

Tacos, tortas, burritos, tostadas, drinks.

That's it.

No hot dog.

Filippo will not be buying you a hot dog at Mickey's,

but he might buy you a tostada.

Mickey's had to change, when Phoenix changed,

Mickey's changed right along with it.

Edward Dapp.

Do we think that everybody watching

is incredibly surprised that Nick,

with everything they know about Nick, is a vegetarian?

I can't believe he only just revealed it.

Folks, Nick is a vegetarian.

There was a time he was a vegan,

but I pride him back into reality with pizza.

I also eat fish, and if I know the person

that's killed the animal,

like the last I had, I think it was elk, maybe,

but up at your father's.

Yeah, in Wyoming, yeah.

Nick goes up to Wyoming every so often in Texas,

and he says, I could move here.

Yeah, I'd said the same thing with Arizona last week.

And then he's, yeah.

You know, Arizona has like no laws.

You can just do whatever you want.

We went to a pool and kids are just like belly flopping off

of structures.

They don't want belly flopping in California.

It's not actually Imperial County, you can still belly off.

But here in San Diego County, and in Orange County,

you're not even allowed to get in there.

It is tied to whether they have emissions restrictions

or not.

There was like no lifeguards, nothing.

I get back, I can't even get a grocery bag.

They don't have lifeguards.

You're supportive.

It's crazy.

We've got to move on.

All right, move on to Arizona's amazing.

We want to move on to Nick talking about

his next project card.

Nick, go ahead.

Well, there's a lot to unpack here.

There sure is.

The multipla, I'm done with.

I've given it to Filippo.

I'm not done with it.

Yeah, no, Filippo's got it.

And he's like, Nick, do you know it's leaking fluid

everywhere?

I'm like, yes.

I knew that.

I was supposed to disclose that to you.

Sorry.

I don't know.

When I got in the car, there was some light on the dash

that I didn't recognize.

So I checked that the glow plugs.

There's a glow plug and then there's an injector light.

When you first turn it on, a light comes on the glow plug.

No, no, no.

There was one that sustained.

That was an injector light.

We're working on it.

I want to be clear, though.

This car has not been given given to Filippo.

It's not like your car now.

We're going to sell this car on Cardi B.

If you're waiting for a bad multipla.

No, it's the best multipla, which is still a bad multipla.

So you remember when Nick sold his bad color Mercy Alago?

He's now going to sell his good color, but bad multipla.

Well, one of these days, he's going to just have a good car.

God, Filippo, work hard for coffee this weekend.

And Perry's asking Nick, were you around for this?

My friend, Perry, came from Atlanta.

He came down here.

Hi, Perry.

And we were asking, Perry was like, Nick,

is this, that's a large, pretty nice, nice car.

What's the problem?

How many miles?

And Nick said, oh, 5,000 miles.

Perry said, I can't believe you only paid whatever.

Nick said, yeah, it was a really good deal.

I don't know.

And I'm sitting there listening to this and I go, Nick.

There was a fire.

It was on fire.

And Nick's like, oh, you know, yeah, there was a fire.

I get it.

He was going to just try to move it.

He's like mentally trying not to get it.

He was just insane.

Fire was a long time ago, buddy.

Can I say two things about the multiple?

Because I drove a bunch of it, which was the light.

Let's hear it.

First of all, we, when I lived in Italy,

my family had two fiat.

We had three or two of that key.

And it just felt so, like, correct.

We brought Filippo back to using that key.

To his childhood when he would go to the town square

and play soccer until dinner time,

until it got dark with the little kids.

The town square next to the church.

We actually had like a little long driveway

next to a church, as it were.

We'd play in that long driveway

or in the church parking lot.

But.

Steadily, man.

We're really a connection.

There's always a church.

They're all the same.

But it was so good in that way.

Also, I decided that it's the least antagonistic car.

Like, you can't look angry at somebody

because it's all windows.

Like, you're in a 9-11.

You're a 9-11.

Or even like the GTI.

Like, there's some tint.

It's low.

You don't have that much visibility.

You kind of like, it's like an angry semen car.

You can't, you have to be nice to your neighbors

in multiple, because they can see everything.

Yeah.

It's like a very friendly car.

So, and they're looking.

There's a lot of sociology about,

a lot of people are looking.

There's a lot of sociology about how people,

when they're in their cars,

disconnect a little bit and feel a sense of protection

and be exposed rudely as a result of that space.

In multiple, not true.

So, you're driving it,

but you're gonna stop driving it,

because the last guy who drove it around a little bit,

it broke down and it spent like two weeks in a shop.

Yeah, it's good.

Yeah, for now.

Yeah, I am 100% gonna stop driving.

When you buy this car, it's worth,

it's the only multiple here,

and it's so delightful as a result.

I love it.

It's got a little leak, but,

so that's selling soon,

when we do our amazing adventure series.

That's gonna be coming live to the channels,

which means I've already,

want to spend the money I haven't collected yet on.

Which by the way, four grand.

That curves with four grand.

No, no, it'll do well.

I meant at like 15, so I really hope you're wrong.

That car, are you gonna do anything

to try to make the paint or interior look nicer?

I thought about it at 15 when it's in that shape.

Well, I spent like 13 getting it here,

then like one or two can, Ms. Laney.

You'll get the money back, we'll do it.

Oh, there is, I'll bet you $1,000 right now,

that thing doesn't even get close to 15.

Well, I'm just gonna assume it brings 15 to 20.

Okay, all right.

And I'll tack that on some of the Arnaj funds.

And so, you lost 10 grand.

I've gotta consider it some of money here

to spend on the next project.

Okay, all right, so,

so I love the map.

You're at like negative 20.

To you, you're up like 30, all right.

It's just cash, right?

We're doing cash basis here.

It doesn't matter, the past is the past,

much like the fire in the SLR,

it happened a long time ago and it doesn't matter.

I love your point being that you got paid for the Arnaj.

Even though you lost a lot of money,

you still got $17,000.

Money and a low interest savings account

that needs to be invested more wisely.

Nick's P&L is just the profit part.

There's no expenditures, it's just accountable.

That's exactly what it is.

The actual spend to purchase the car

doesn't make it onto the statement.

Only what he gets back.

Which is great accounting.

And by the way, I think even if you figured that,

he's still lost on the Arnaj.

What are you considering?

Pardon me, so the SRT 10 RAM

is still very high on the list.

Hard to find one that's meeting my specific needs,

but there is one in Phoenix that I wanna check out

when we're back for car week.

You want quad cab, right?

I do want quad cab, which is a bummer for the trans

because you get an auto, but...

You could probably swap in.

Or you would probably swap in.

How small the rear doors are.

Well, what's the rear look like?

I got small kids.

They don't need to be big doors.

What's the rear look like?

Can we give this to the car?

It's pretty tight, Kelly?

Yeah, just got four kids, dude.

Dude, look, the three of them right there, it's wide.

What about the other ones?

There are some in the bed.

She's like a car seat technician.

She's like never gonna put her kids in the bed.

You on the other hand...

Meanwhile, the multiply, the seatbelts don't even lock.

Like they're just loosely...

Multipla is dangerous for adults and kids alike.

As a kid.

That was a safe car.

Yeah.

That was a family vehicle.

There's an R63 that just went live

on Facebook Marketplace,

previously sold on cars and vids.

That I'm 80% sure is a scam, but might be real.

Okay, why are you announcing this?

Yeah, people think you have two days to buy this car.

It's a free market.

Yeah, and I really...

If you're on Facebook Marketplace in Valley Stream, New York,

which is just north of the city,

you're now competition for Nick on this R63.

Go for it, people.

If they beat me to the punch, they're welcome to have it.

The guy asked to face him right now to show it to me.

Do that, you didn't do that?

I can call him right now if you want an error,

but I figured we'll wait.

Right after.

Okay, then I really want an E55 wagon to manual swap.

A 2-11.

But that one's the hardest to find of all of them.

I think that was a 2-11, right?

That car is not...

Didn't you ever see the ad with the monster?

No, I'm sorry, what?

You...

Look, that guy that put him in a volks,

like that good mess with these cars, they're not...

Your intro, yeah, but it's not about

keeping the car original.

I just don't think that the character of the car

lends itself, it's a big, like fast straight line situation.

My car's got one or two diff lockers and my...

You know, SUVs have a manual, I don't know.

Third row is when...

My wagons.

Third row was there, it was available for you as a line.

Yeah, that's so true.

It's okay.

My cars have three rows, but even then, it wouldn't have been...

E63's are down.

E63's are pretty cheap, but he wants the blown V8,

which I agree with.

I actually owned this body E63, and I prefer the E55.

If I do a 63, I want the R.

If I do a 55, I want the wagon.

Yeah, I think that makes sense.

Well, I'm excited for you.

I hope this goes in certain directions,

and I hope it doesn't go in other directions.

So we'll see.

You want a RAM?

Here's my order of preference, R63,

although I think you'll get tired of it

even quicker than the Multipla.

E55, why I get it nice and truly hope you don't manual swap it.

And then lowest on the list is the RAM,

only because it's a tip.

The stick ones were cool as hell.

There's also a Maybach 57 I've been sending to the group.

They've dropped the price.

It's got 136,000 miles, but at some price,

you got to say yes, right?

And I don't know what that price is, but it starts with a two.

Yeah.

We haven't sold one in a 57 in forever.

Yeah, and non-S, but it's fine.

They're pretty cool.

So you're going to become a Mercedes-Benz, man.

Just for now.

You're going to fall in love.

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Okay, click type in Quatro Porte.

Ooh.

Nick, I know we don't like these Quatro Portes,

but are you one?

This is a 12 car.

You know what?

I saw one on the road the other day

and I swear to God, I thought,

that looks pretty cool.

Can you let us see the model?

They're long and menacing and not yet 12.

They're long and menacing.

Like the Ghibli's kind of sucked,

but like click on, click on.

It kind of looks like a gangster car, you know?

Yeah, that, it kind of looks like a gangster car.

I was like, I would not disrespect that guy's wife, you know?

But if it was a Ghibli, you would.

You would disrespect his wife, his children, his whole family.

I agree.

I'd be like, they probably had it coming.

They probably had it coming.

But this car, you see him and you're like,

I don't know.

Yeah, like that guy knows some dangerous people.

He knows some people, or he is one of those people.

Go to the interior, does it look nice inside?

But then he chose the Oregon vineyard place.

The wine country, yeah.

Well, it's unreadable.

Let me tell you something.

If you live in a city, if you're ever wondering

why someone has chosen a specific place in some states,

it's unreadable.

That's why.

We don't actually want to save the manatee in Florida.

We don't care.

We're different to the manatee.

But the license plate is unreadable.

A lot of what?

Also, I'd forgot that Ignition was on the left.

I didn't know that I ever knew that.

You reviewed one of these cars.

I don't think I did ever review a Quattroporte

of this Intrasse.

I think I read it.

After the Ghibli, you were like, no.

I went for 12.

You reviewed it.

What point they did a V8?

So I agree with you that the true Italian Quattroporte,

the one you had, is like the real one.

But at 12, and it kind of looks cool.

It kind of looks like people aren't

disrespecting your family.

I mean, your point on the Levante was also true, right?

Like they're laughably glad it retailed new,

but at some point you're like,

oh, this is kind of a logical thing to do.

And I always felt the Levante drove pretty well.

I never thought really the Ghibli drove that well,

but this car, I bet, is okay, especially at 12.

What does a backseat look like?

You know, pretty nice.

Oh my God.

I started to watch your Ghibli review.

Oh, wow, those pillows.

Do you think the car mom would be supportive of this?

From now on, I'm only gonna buy cars

if I run by the car mom first.

I think you need a collab here.

I went on her pod once.

I love, I'm telling you,

she's the greatest automotive influencer.

Yeah.

And then her and Harry.

Harry's garage, same vibe.

Yeah, you could put some couple of cars here.

You'd hurt the leather.

Yeah, I don't think this,

I think this is like Chrysler stuff.

The cars hurt, you know?

And so anyway, they did a V8.

Can you pull up Quattroporte?

Is 12 an outlier or that's what they go for?

No, it's got 85,000, 88,000 miles.

But can you pull up Quattroporte?

Sort by like newest or highest price or something.

Like I wanna know what the V8s went for.

This one, GTS.

Yeah, that's a V8.

That's a V8, but that was in 21.

That, look at that.

I can't imagine it's more now.

Nick, 31.

This car actually looks pretty cool.

And it's got a big old V8.

What was the horsepower rating?

525 horsepower.

You know, you got mad at me when I got rid of my P38

and replace it with another P38.

That's better.

Don't you think replacing my Quattroporte

for another Quattroporte is like that?

You'd rather have a Rapide.

But Rapides are big money.

They're like double this.

They're like 35.

Are they?

They're not 60, they're like 60.

The facelift ones are, but the pre-facelift,

you can find them under 40.

Too lowest price.

Stradman bought his for like 37 from a dealer.

Well, yeah.

Wow.

I think an outlier.

This one had about 200,000 miles on 25,

which is 200,000 in the smart world.

That's the NSX, the 100 NSX.

The opposite of the NSX.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, look at that liar there.

But yeah, they're in the 40s.

Man, V12, I forgot these had a V12.

Look at that.

You're thinking about one of these,

is this on your list or not?

Oh, for sure.

And Madagascar?

They terrify me.

And that's coming from someone who owned an Arnaz.

It terrifies me.

I would much rather have this in Arnaz

in terms of ownability.

I think this is a way more honorable car.

It can't be much worse.

Well, for one thing, it's considerably newer.

Plus again, if you're buying at 30 some, you know,

how much can you get killed?

The answer is about 25,000.

Even though he bought his Arnaz for 19,

he still managed to lose over 20.

Okay, the other market part I wanna talk about

is the R8, then we gotta move on to questions.

Yeah, pull it up.

You see this?

What a sale.

Nick, you see this?

Nick has an R8 and Nick owned an R8, a stick V8.

I can't use computers.

Oh, no.

Yes.

Well, you guys had like the best R8 of the Gen 1s

or Gen 1.5, I guess.

There have been others that have sold in the last nine months

on other platforms.

And there was one that should have been nicer,

half the miles, that sold for 215.

I was like, bring the trailer.

He doesn't wanna say bring the trailer,

but I'll say bring the trailer.

Bring the trailer had one with 6,000 miles,

that sold for 215.

So Arnaz was sitting at 220 over the weekend.

The premium plus gated.

It was a gated plus.

I don't know about premium.

Premium plus is a trim level and outlay.

Yeah, you're right.

Plus, whatever.

You've been an Audi guy.

V10, premium plus.

If only we'd had a V10 prestige.

But so they had one and it only sold for 215.

That was only in March.

So it was less than a year ago.

And so I assumed this would be around there.

Now we did, this is a special color,

but it's this Panther black, which to me,

I will say it's pretty cool in the sun,

but it's subtle.

But it's very subtle.

It's not like Samoa.

The one I bring a trailer with a different one on one block.

Oh, really?

It was also a one on one block.

Regardless, this one brings 261.

And I think that this illustrates a couple of things.

First off, bring the trailer.

But secondly,

it's so good if we, and I mentioned this in that weekly

report, I email, I send out every week.

If you think the R8 is going up in value,

this car leads the chart.

Like this is the King R8.

I think it's the, you said it's the best gen one.

I think it's the best R8 ultimately,

because you get the V10, you get the plus

and you have a gated the second gens

weren't offered with a stick, right?

Right, yep.

To me, like there is probably no better R8 in the world.

There might be some really cool colors

or some even lower miles.

Like there might be one or two better cars.

Like this is it.

Go find one.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, they come up every two.

They made eight manual plus.

Is that right?

Some low number.

The other interesting thing about R8 owners

is they grow to love the car and become obsessed.

And then they eventually say,

I wish I had a nicer one, right?

Like they don't, they become R8 loyalists.

And they think like, this is my favorite one.

I just wish it had a V10.

Two of my three owner friends ended up

getting a better R8.

Not you though.

Not you.

You can sell R.

You got a Mercy.

That's an even better R8.

Yep.

But and at that price point,

you could find an E-gear and have a little swap budget,

but it would never be nice.

I am curious who buys this at 260.

It's a lot of money for an R8.

Although if it's gonna happen, this is the one.

It was the car.

But I'm curious like,

does that person already have 10 other exotics in it?

Or is he deciding?

Cause at 260, I probably prefer your stick swap Mercy

to this car.

They're very different though.

This is way more usable.

Yeah.

But I'm not looking for usable.

But that's what I'm talking about.

If you've already scratched that edge in years.

Who is the person who's trying to find a usable,

but very special?

Cause you can't really use this, right?

There's, you gotta keep this pretty preserved.

It's a very valuable car.

If you wanted to use one,

you could find a lot of other R8s.

I'm willing to bet the person I'd own an R8 before.

Oh yeah.

Like that's the demo.

I don't think you'd understand

what makes this car so special unless you had.

Yeah.

Yep.

Very cool.

I was super happy to host this car.

It was really, the seller did a great job presenting it.

It was just a really, really special car.

The owner is our friend, Sam, in the future.

He's gone from a boxer spider.

And then he starts upping.

I don't think Sam's getting sick.

Front Sam's not selling too soon.

He might, he might.

This one for the right price.

Okay. I gotta move on to questions.

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Oh yeah.

Nick's YouTube channel,

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Folks, Nick put up a post this week

about two weeks ago about how he spent the winter,

the Christmas holiday in Arizona, low balling people.

I'm still low balling people.

Yeah. I'm deep into a rabbit hole now of used tires.

Oh my God.

You are a, I'm over budget on the P38.

I did a lift kit.

No question about it.

And the lift kit on stock wheels looks terrible.

It does.

I saw the picture.

I don't want like a new set of tires.

This is like another couple of grand and it's like.

You're digging this whole yourself.

I told you when it started.

I'm calling about La Lantas.

That's a tire plan.

That's Spanish for tires.

No, Spanish word.

That pronunciation,

I'm going to get you a hard buy.

I know. I'm not getting very far.

What are you trying to get?

If you are Louise and you're listening to this,

please respond to your DMs on Facebook.

I will take them for your asking price.

Nick, you have a real career.

You put your family in these cars.

One of them is an SLR.

Also it's Louise, not Louise.

Can you just buy, not use tire out of it?

The P38 project is about embracing.

What tire are you trying to find?

I don't think.

Either Falcon Wild Peak or KO2, KO3.

There are used Falcon Wild Peaks out there

that people are selling that fit.

They're a little rare in 16s,

but we're hunting them down.

How much is a new set?

Expensive.

$1,300.

What if you get cheaper newer tires?

I don't want like a off brand.

I will find, they come up with great for 15,000 miles.

They got to plug in them and the sidewalls ripped though.

You also, you go to these used tire places,

they quote installed prices.

They don't do any of this like gimmicks with recycling.

And you just, they knock it out real quick.

Like it's not like a normal tire place

where you got to deal with all this stuff.

I do like that about used tire places.

They're usually quite quick and efficient.

So you're going to do this?

There's a lot of them are like in Chula and stuff.

So I was hoping to do it right before or after the pod,

but didn't work out.

Hey, how much are you into your free P38, Mr. Free Free?

10, 394.

10, 394, pre-tires.

Pre-tires, yeah, that's why I'm trying to keep tires

like 300 bucks.

I still don't want to have a glove box.

I have a glove box, it's just not a tap.

Is the stereo installed?

How many, no, how many warm lights?

The stereo is installed, there's a buzzing noise.

Okay, so I removed this speaker that's buzzing

and it moved to another speaker,

but I couldn't tell, I removed the tweeter

and then I found out afterwards

it was actually the lower speaker.

So I'm down three speakers now and it's still buzzing.

It's a disaster.

I think I'm going to go for AirPods after all of that.

Include that in the budget then.

That's $299 cars.

I didn't put the door card back on

because I ordered new speakers

and so I've got no door card, no glove box.

You drove it here?

Buzzing speakers, yes.

Because I got to go pick up my kids after this.

This is so, you got an SLR, dude.

He's the only person that owns an SLR

that's also shopping for used tires for free P38

that doesn't have anchors and door panels.

You don't go broke making a profit, all right?

You're not gonna make a profit.

You never made a profit on any of these cars.

You can't pull me any cash, but on me,

he sold his mega church for like two X.

You selling any mega churches?

Maybe.

One of these is your car.

Which one?

They're unrealized losses, it's way back.

Okay, it looked different.

The car, it was seven grand.

It looked different, it looked better.

The car that you were given for free,

somebody has scribed $7,200 in value too.

You think it's now worth over 10?

What profit are you getting?

Wait till you see it with the new tires.

I saw the lift, actually.

The worst part is, I took out the old navigation and radio

and for YouTube, I filmed myself running over it.

But the carplay connected and turned off the video

as I was doing it, so I lost the footage

that I was so proud of.

I don't even know if this is a pro.

Oh my God.

So you're in it for 10, 394, but unsaid there is,

you need tires, you need some sort

of infotainment solution, and you're down

at several speakers.

And it still has a check engine life.

And it still has an active, yeah.

You cleared it, but it's kind of bad.

I replaced ignition coils, that was not the culprit.

You're just replacing stuff.

You think about throwing a code reader in there

and seeing what it is.

Misfire, that could be anything.

Could be anything.

P38, put a new motor in it, honestly,

you'd probably end up in better shape.

We're off the rails here, we're finding a new project car.

Boy, that's all we were saying.

You're getting rid of this P38?

No.

Jesus.

I missed that the most when I was in Arizona.

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First question from Telemeister62.

This is a great question.

Why is a 100 series Land Cruiser a five figure car,

deep five figures?

Well, first gen Sequoia is with the same drivetrain

or a tenth of the cost.

The first gen Sequoia is so unrated.

Pull up a first gen Sequoia, you were wearing this?

The original Sequoia had the same powertrain,

and honestly the Tundra too.

I did not realize that.

The original Sequoia had the same powertrain.

Go to lowest price, because I'm sure they're all,

yeah, this one.

I'll give you the lowest price.

The first gen Sequoia had the same powertrain as,

now, it's not as capable as the 100 series.

It's longer, it doesn't-

It looks better though.

I think the first gen Sequoia looks so good.

It certainly looks fine.

They run forever, unlike Serious.

They run forever, because the 47

is the greatest engine Toyota ever gave us.

Ever.

1UZ.

The 1UZ, the greatest engine Toyota ever gave us.

Why are these so much cheaper?

I mean, there's always a tax on Toyota Land Cruiser.

Even the LXs are cheaper than Land Cruisers

from this generation.

Which is surprising.

Well, some of them had this hydraulic suspension thing.

But then, Sequoia, now, the Sequoia isn't as capable.

It's longer, like I suspect the off-road,

as a result, you got a break over angle thing.

Generally, bad off-road stuff is not as strong.

It's probably not built quite as well.

The Land Cruiser famously is a 25 year car.

All the components tend to last longer

than a Sequoia component.

But I would argue, though, especially if you buy

from the Southwest, where it's not rusting

and you get the 47, that's a 25 year car.

Honestly, you should buy a Sequoia.

Just everybody.

These first-gen Sequoias are just,

they can run and run and run and run.

To be fair, this one has 209,000 miles

and sold for 9 grand.

That's not far off of 100 Serious.

Yeah.

With that miles.

Yeah, an old 500 Serious itself for a lot.

Ooh, somebody super charges one.

Yeah, two already, baby.

Put a blower on her.

Cool.

Blower and 129.

That one looks nice.

Why don't you get one of these?

Really step up.

I guess it's a thought.

It's not like a terribly interesting car.

Anything would be a step up.

Oh yeah, your P38.

I drive the other thing.

Oh, this is so much fun.

You see a P38, you're taking a picture

and you're saying that guy knows something about life.

You see a Sequoia, you think it's a used car.

When I see a P38, I take a picture of that.

I can't believe this guy's still on the road.

Yeah.

And I sent it to him.

You sent one earlier.

Yeah, I sent one earlier.

But you had a school's car parked out.

You didn't send it to the group?

I did, I sent it to the group.

There was someone with a-

There was a white one on-

A white 4.0.

Missed it.

Okay, next question from Wabaki Evo.

Hey Doug, why haven't you reviewed a Golf 32

or any other VR6-powered Volkswagen?

Excuse me.

Pull up the Eurovan.

You can pull it up on the site.

Your point is made.

I reviewed a Eurovan.

I can't believe the disrespect that this question has.

It was that one.

I reviewed, this is a VR6 Volkswagen, people.

Nick, I think as a VR6 enthusiast,

you'd be thrilled to see me reviewing a VR6.

Is it a VR6?

Yeah.

Wasn't the Cayenne also a VR6 early on?

Well, okay.

I'm gonna tell a story to Volkswagen people

that's gonna really get them all scared.

VR6 is a marketing term, okay?

It's just a V6.

That's all it is.

They told you it was a VR6.

Oh, it's a narrow angle.

Nobody cares what the angle of the engine is.

It's a V6, okay?

They told you it was a VR6,

and there's been all these people

who are like enthusiasts of the VR6.

It's them marketing it, trying to prove

that it's something cooler that they developed.

It isn't.

It's just a V6.

Nevermind, we'll V6.

I'm not wrong about this.

Next question.

Why haven't you done an R32 though?

I want a blue stock, hard to find.

I want a blue, I marked four.

I want a blue stocky.

I marked five.

I want a blue stocky.

I marked six.

Stock has got to be the hard part of that,

I would imagine.

They were just so moddable.

They were so moddable.

There's a lot of cool cars you haven't reviewed,

including the B7 RS4.

Because I'm waiting for stockies on a lot of them,

and they're hard to find.

For instance, I'd love to find a blue stock Evo 6.

I would love, but I can't seem to find one.

They're just not around.

Okay, next question.

Not one with 30,000 kilometers behind.

Peterson JA22.

I drove that car yesterday, that blue stock Evo 6.

One of the greatest experiences of my life.

Tell Rami, I want one of those.

I'm still having a look for a B5 RS4 for me.

He's looking for a B55 for me.

And you know, I was at Cars and Coffee,

and I was talking to somebody,

and they were like,

yeah, I got a guy looking on Europe for a car.

I'm like, ooh, he's like Rami.

I'm like, oh my God, Rami's looking for all these cars.

And by motorsports.

Next question from Peterson JA22.

Filippo, congrats on the Porsche.

When are you going to join the crew

and start a YouTube channel?

It's a great question.

What do you mean?

Ken did it, he did it?

If I were to start a YouTube channel,

solely the auto industry news

that you deem too boring for this podcast.

And I'm going to be honest,

that's probably not a recipe for success.

What would you just sit like here at the set in front

and like, that's all you do?

Yep.

Spin up podcast.

There's a lot of news that we can't get to.

And I love the car.

I love cars, but really I love the car industry.

He likes the industry.

He's an industry man.

We didn't cover the story about the guy

at the Ford plant that flipped off the president.

Yeah, we decided to avoid

to just focus on that on Cash Patel and that's it.

Can you imagine if we covered that story?

Kind of just did.

So you're not doing a pot for sure.

Even though this is your chance to like start

your content career.

I think people might not realize this,

but like my actual job at cars and bids

sometimes has content, but I do.

Oh, you think you're better than us?

No, no, no, better, better.

He does big brain stuff.

He is not the word.

You went over your car play,

but then you went over your stereo,

but then it connects to car play.

Which is so hilarious.

How did the car play?

You don't have power.

Because the car connected to the one in the car.

It connected to the one in the car.

He was running over the old one.

Oh, got it, got it, got it.

Probably was buzzing too.

Like that all the time.

No, no, I more mean my time is not as focused.

I don't have an interest in becoming a content celebrity.

But you still have the footage.

You just don't have the sound.

No, it like stops filming.

Because the phone would have switched to the,

it like turned off.

Well, Filippo, I for one would love to see

a YouTube channel that you do.

Would you like it to be all cardistry news?

Yeah, that's where I would get my cardistry news.

Instead of having to go on these websites,

it's like hodgepodge of websites

where you always find cardistry news.

I want to get my one stop shop Filippo.

Every Monday morning, I want you to tell me

what's going to happen in the industry that week.

I'll do daily TikTok shows.

I'm trying to convince him,

since we're both going to Arizona car week next week,

to road trip with me in the multiply,

and we'll film it from his house

all the way to Mitchell's Hot Dogs in Mesa.

And it's Mickey's.

Mickey's, whatever.

And they don't do hot dogs, dudes.

Mitchell's tacos and hot dogs and more.

Toast tacos.

Let's do it.

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Let's stop by a La Lantaria.

All right, I'm going to do two more.

I'm going to do two more.

Give me.

Number one, from Tom Ross 24.

Volvo XC90 has been looking the same for 10 years.

Think it's a great way to look rich for cheap.

Early ones this generation are in the teens to buy.

What do you guys think?

I agree.

They are also surprisingly reliable.

I assumed they wouldn't be, but they are.

They're getting tons of miles.

They come up with miles.

They do not seem that worn.

They do look rich for cheap.

That's the kind of car, no matter who you were,

you could be driving it in Nick's neighborhood

and people wouldn't go talk on Next Door.

They're so many of them.

There are certain people, you go into Nick's neighborhood,

no matter certain type of person.

I'm not going to say who, but in Nick's neighborhood,

they go on Next Door.

I saw one of the used today,

but if you had an XC90, they'd be like, nope, all good.

Every large Volvo from any era

still looks like you fit in an original hood.

Yeah, that's right.

An old XC70 still fit in.

The first gen XC90 still fit in.

Period.

As long as it's in decent shape.

Yeah.

Some Volvos get ratty.

It's funny because this, you still look reasonable.

Yeah, it does.

It's funny because Volvo had this rep in like the 80s

of these like brick cars that could run forever.

And then they got complicated,

but actually they still are relatively reliable.

And this new body XC90 is a shockingly reliable.

14 grand.

Wow.

14,000 United States.

With only 9,000 miles.

91,000 miles, but do you see what happened there?

Click on that.

The dude went back at some point and got nine F plates

to make it look like a brand new car.

And you can't tell the difference.

I doubt that's his strategy.

But it would work.

It would work for you.

For you, yes.

You know.

Click on lowest price.

I'm trying to tuck my wife into one of these.

I think they're, I wouldn't get a new one.

Last gen's for 6,200.

17 for that one.

Yeah, the 15 range.

I mean, do you want to look?

I could buy one of these for less than I lost on the R notch.

That's a great point.

And you know what?

I think for your math, that means you get it.

It's a free car.

That means you get it.

I will know.

You already own a car in this class that you own.

Yeah, the Cayenne.

Yeah.

It's gotta be eight too.

Okay.

We can do one more or two more if we go quick.

From Steve Struss.

This is for you, Filippo.

What's the deal with the updated logo?

Just to refresh as a brand or graphic designer,

I'd love to know.

So if you go on Cars and Bids, our font has changed.

What happened?

Yeah, we wanted to, it had been five years.

Five years.

Since we launched Cars and Bids.

Five and a half.

We wanted to update things a little bit

and we felt like that better reflected our brand.

And there's a bunch of other small changes you may have noticed.

Nick, I want to get an understanding of that.

That version of Seraph really vibes with Filippo.

It better reflected our brand.

The previous font was a,

it didn't represent the values that we hold dear.

It's like when a new generation of car comes out,

you can suddenly say whatever you wanted

about the last gen.

The old font, no long, we didn't feel like the old font.

How do I put this?

It wasn't that we hated it.

It's just that it wasn't a reflection of our brand.

And so we have severed all ties with that font.

And if that font is still representing on LinkedIn

that it works for us,

we will make, we will send a strongly worded letter

to make sure that that is not the case.

The Better Corporate Framing, that we loved it.

And it was the right logo and font for us at the time.

We have matured as a brand.

And therefore the logo needs a lot of maturity around here.

We wanted to make a few small updates that we felt.

The logo, the car itself,

I've heard people allege that it was modeled

off of a specific vehicle.

Is that true or false?

No.

You're talking about the one on the bottom of our mics.

Both not true.

Show me.

Well, that's the old one, right?

Or is there a new one?

Is that the one?

There is a slightly new, there's a newer version.

It's a little different.

No, what we were looking specifically,

we wanted a generic car that couldn't be,

there was some inspiration from Doug's Defender at the time

and inspiration is the keyword, right?

Like it looks like a boxy, simple mix of a vehicle.

It looks like a multiple.

It doesn't look like a multiple.

Yeah.

I think the closest thing to me,

I've always felt the Honda E was like the closest

thing.

Okay, last question is going to have to do this one

very quickly.

Okay.

And we can very, very, very quickly,

which is good because it's a very, very quickly, quickly.

Oh wait, what happened to it?

Oh God.

Do you see Honda had a new logo debut too?

Yeah.

That did not make the cut for stories.

It would have been on your,

they've been doing it already.

All right, very, very quickly from Callum BMW NZ.

I'm going to answer this in one word

and Filippo is going to agree with me.

Can a dear Porsche pod, oh, hey, maybe this is for Spike.

Can EVs ever become true enthusiast classics

like iconic ice cars?

Or does the lack of mechanical engagement

prevent that from happening?

No, EVs can never become enthusiast classics.

Thank you so much, folks.

I don't agree.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

I appreciate it.

Nick, any parting thoughts?

Keep going.

I can't think of an exception to that.

No, you're correct.

At this, EV1 is kind of cool.

As you look back on a certain era,

wouldn't you say that something like a Gallardo

is an enthusiast classic?

That's not an EV.

But it, but my, my,

V10.

But that was, there was a change in that era

from manual cars and automatic.

And at the time you would have said no automatic.

I would not have said that.

So no automatic could be that.

I think a time changes things.

No, I think there's a big difference

between automatic and EV.

And I think, so far no EV to me has emerged as a car

that I think there have been no good sports.

The only chain, the only possible one that could be

is the original Tesla Roadster.

But I think that's only due to its like seminal position

as in the car industry.

And for what Tesla became,

rather than like the driving experience

or the specialness or the enjoyment of that car.

We've got a big 10.

Wait, no, I like EVs a ton.

I just, the question is,

will they become enthusiast, true enthusiast classics?

Got a big 10.

Okay, you think the Mach-E-Doo is gonna be comfortable.

What is that called?

Honestly, rally is what it's actually called.

I know where I saw one of those.

Cause Sam sent a picture,

he saw one for the first time.

I also saw one for the first time this weekend.

You know where I saw it?

Monster Jam.

Goodbye, everybody.

That's what happens in Monster Jam in San Diego.

You get this sort of hit, they're liberals,

but they're also off-roading.

Yup, goodbye, y'all.

Absolute pleasure.

Thank you, Nick, for joining us today.

Anytime.

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