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CarCast+Edmunds - Rivian R2, Lexus RX Plug-in Hybrid, Lexus ES EV, BMW M3 EV concept and more.

CarCast+Edmunds - Rivian R2, Lexus RX Plug-in Hybrid, Lexus ES EV, BMW M3 EV concept and more.

CarCast Jun 15, 2026 56 min
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About this episode

Rivian R2 takes center stage as the hosts frame it as a smaller, more accessible EV than the R1S/R1T—priced around “60 grand” at launch, with first-drive notes from California. They dig into cost-cutting (air suspension and a center-console Bluetooth speaker) and efficiency trade-offs, from aerodynamics to range targets. The conversation widens to Lexus plug-in and EV plans, Hyundai Ioniq 9 tech, and BMW’s next M3 concept—plus Edmunds’ real-world vs EPA testing perspective and Tesla FSD behavior.

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Car

Rivian R1S

"Improvements over the larger SUV and truck, the R1S, the R1T. ... And then the R1S is very big. It's a three row and it's also very expensive, 70, 80 grand upwards."

The Rivian R1S is Rivian’s bigger electric SUV with three rows of seats. The host says it costs a lot more and is much larger than the R2, which is why the R2 is meant to appeal to more people.

Car

Rivian R1T

"Improvements over the larger SUV and truck, the R1S, the R1T. But you went down to the design studio..."

The Rivian R1T is Rivian’s electric pickup. The host brings it up to explain that the R2 is aimed at people who like Rivian but don’t want a truck or a very large vehicle.

Rivian R2
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Car

Rivian R2

"But let's talk a little bit about the R2. ... The R2, a lot more accessible. It's the same size as a Tesla Model Y to within a few inches."

The Rivian R2 is an electric SUV that’s meant to be easier to buy than Rivian’s bigger vehicles. The host says it’s about the same size as a Tesla Model Y and is aimed at people who want an EV but not a huge, pricey SUV.

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holds its value pretty well

"And actually in the EV world, it actually holds its value pretty well. So it's not even that there were cheap examples on the used market either."

“Holds its value” means the car doesn’t lose its resale price as quickly as others. The host is saying the R1S has been keeping its value well, so you don’t see many heavily discounted used ones.

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launch model

"The launch model is about 60 grand, but there will be cheaper versions coming."

A “launch model” is the first version of a new car that goes on sale. The host says the first R2 version starts around $60k, with cheaper versions coming later.

Car

4Runner Forerunner

"But if it's going to succeed, they're also looking at the kind of adventure vehicle stuff. So things like Toyota's forerunner goes into there..."

The host is comparing the R2’s target buyers to people who might shop a Toyota adventure SUV instead of an EV. It’s meant to show the R2 isn’t only competing with electric cars.

Car

Bmws X3

"So things like Toyota's forerunner goes into there, you know, even things like BMW's X3 from the luxury market."

The host brings up the BMW X3 as another type of SUV shoppers might choose instead of an EV. It’s used to show the R2 has to win over people who are considering luxury gas SUVs too.

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drive it for half an hour

"And we're waiting for the launch. But you know, do you fancy having a drive it for half an hour? I'd love to know what you think."

This is basically a short test drive—just enough time to get a first impression. It’s not a long-term ownership test, but it can still help you judge how the car feels.

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HUD

"where you can see the edges of the HUD. It's on kind of off-roadery type tires."

HUD means “heads-up display.” It shows important info on the windshield so you can keep your eyes on the road instead of looking down at the dashboard.

Car

Tesla Cybertruck

"It's not, it's not what Tesla did with the Cybertruck where you thought, well, if you just produced a mid-sized truck that kind of looked a bit like a Model Y to probably sell the bucket full. So, why did you go and do the Cybertruck?"

The Tesla Cybertruck is Tesla’s very unusual-looking electric truck. The host brings it up to compare marketing strategy: Tesla went for a dramatic, distinctive design, while Rivian is portrayed as taking a more gradual path with a smaller, cheaper model.

Car

Rivian R1

"Because the R1 has big range with big battery, but it's massively heavy. It's not very efficient. It doesn't charge"

The Rivian R1 is Rivian’s earlier, bigger electric vehicle. The host’s main takeaway is that it can go a long way because it has a big battery, but it’s also very heavy, which hurts efficiency and charging performance.

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overengineered

"Ford has spoken about this too, like on the Mach-E, going, we overengineered. We had too much wiring. We had too much of this, too much of that."

“Overengineered” means the car has more complicated stuff than it really needs. In the example the host gives, that extra complexity can add weight and make the car less efficient.

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software driven

"Like now it's all more software driven and everything talks to each other electronically."

“Software-driven” means the car uses software to control and coordinate lots of its systems. The host’s point is that newer cars are better at having different parts work together through electronics.

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efficiencies

"So, efficiencies in aerodynamics, efficiencies in build, efficiencies in adding lightness, as they say, gave us an overall better vehicle where it's more efficient."

Here “efficiencies” means ways the car uses energy more effectively. Less wasted energy can translate into better range and overall performance from the battery.

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lightness

"efficiencies in build, efficiencies in adding lightness, as they say, gave us an overall better vehicle"

“Lightness” just means making the car weigh less. A lighter car usually uses less energy, which helps an electric vehicle get better range.

Concept

steep learning curve

"I think this is always challenge with buying the first vehicle from any brand is that there's a steep learning curve. And even if you bring in people who've done this before in other places, Tesla, etc., you're still quite an immature company."

A “steep learning curve” means a new company has a lot to figure out quickly. In car terms, that includes making the cars well and supporting customers as sales grow.

Concept

make or break

"They're still hemorrhaging cash. They're still putting how you cut the accounting. They're still losing money overall. This R2 is very much a make or break car for them."

“Make or break” means this product could decide whether the company succeeds or fails. The hosts are saying Rivian R2 is crucial for Rivian to keep going.

Car

Model Y

"But they still don't think they're going to go from 10,000 vehicles or 20,000 vehicles to a million vehicles. No, that's not going after Model Y. They want like 150,000 vehicles, right?"

Tesla’s Model Y is one of the best-selling electric SUVs. The hosts mention it to show how hard it is for a newer company to sell at the same huge numbers.

Car

Toyota RAV4

"They don't want to admit that because in their mind, they need to seduced people out of a Toyota RAV4, out of a BMW X3."

The Toyota RAV4 is a very common, popular SUV. The hosts are saying Rivian needs to attract people who already like a mainstream gas SUV, which is a tough challenge.

Car

Tesla Model 3

"...udience from people who bought a first-generation Model 3 or a Model Y because they were tech forward and t..."

The Tesla Model 3 is an all-electric car that’s shaped like a sedan. It’s known for being a popular early EV choice. The podcast brings it up to describe the type of people who bought it when it first became available.

Brand

Lucid

"I like Rivian. I like the product. I think they've done a terrific job with the brand, much more so than Lucid."

Lucid is an electric car brand. In this segment, it’s brought up mainly as a comparison point for how clearly the brand’s identity comes across to buyers.

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all wheel drive

"This is more of the all-weather vehicle. It's all wheel drive. It's decent ground clearance. You can drive it presumably in the snow and the rain or whatever."

All-wheel drive means the car can send power to multiple wheels. That helps it grip better on wet or snowy roads, which is why the host calls it an all-weather vehicle.

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ground clearance

"It's all wheel drive. It's decent ground clearance. You can drive it presumably in the snow and the rain or whatever."

Ground clearance is how much space there is between the road and the bottom of the car. More clearance can help you avoid hitting bumps, curbs, or rough patches.

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air suspension

"The big thing here is they, for cost reasons, they took out the air suspension that you get on the R1S and the R1T. So that doesn't give you the flexibility to have the ride height variants that you can have if you've got air suspension."

Air suspension is a type of suspension that can change how high the vehicle sits. Raising it helps with rough roads or snow, and lowering it can make the ride feel more normal on regular streets.

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Bluetooth speaker

"So you don't get the cool Bluetooth speaker that you get in an R1S and R1T that comes out the center console."

A Bluetooth speaker is a wireless speaker that can play audio without cables. The host says some Rivian models have a removable one in the center console, but the R2 is expected to skip it to save cost.

Car

Ferrari Luce

"...gn perspective. We talked a lot about the Ferrari Luce and how that's a product designer trying to do a ..."

The Ferrari Luce is a car that the podcast talks about mainly from a design point of view. It’s being discussed to explain the ideas behind how it looks and what the designers were aiming for. The focus is on the design process rather than basic driving details.

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wireless phone charging

"So I love the fact, for example, that Rivian's one first, but the first, the R1S wireless phone charging was rubbish because it used to like, your phone would move around and sometimes it would charge, sometimes it wouldn't."

Wireless phone charging charges your phone without plugging in a cable. It works best when the phone sits in the right spot, which is why alignment matters here.

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MagnaSafe

"And in the R2, they've got Magna, what do you call it? MagnaSafe. MagSafe. MagSafe, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, positions the phone."

MagnaSafe is a wireless phone charger design that helps keep your phone lined up. Because the phone stays in the right position, it’s more likely to charge every time.

Concept

saving money on the most used tactile things

"we've sort of talked about this before, probably many times now, is when you're looking for ways to save money, we've seen so many car companies make a mistake on saving money on the most used tactile things."

The idea here is that if a company tries to save money, it shouldn’t do it on the parts you touch all the time. If it does, the car can feel lower quality even if everything else is okay.

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long range

"The standard version with the long range, this is rear wheel drive, long range, less overall power, about 50 grand early 2027."

“Long range” usually means the EV version is set up to go farther on a single charge. Here, they’re comparing the long-range model’s range to a shorter-range version.

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rear wheel drive

"The standard version with the long range, this is rear wheel drive, long range, less overall power, about 50 grand early 2027."

Rear wheel drive means the power goes to the back wheels only. It can be a bit more efficient, but it may not grip quite as well as an all-wheel-drive setup in bad weather.

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standard range

"And then the standard range one is obviously very interesting, right? Because it's, you know, where we are the price point rear wheel drive, a little bit smaller battery, by the way, still quick 0 to 65.9 seconds."

“Standard range” is the cheaper EV version that’s designed to go a shorter distance on a charge. They mention it uses a smaller battery compared with the long-range model.

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0 to 65.9 seconds

"The standard version with the long range... about 50 grand early 2027. ... still quick 0 to 65.9 seconds."

They’re quoting a time-based acceleration number to show how quickly the car gets up to speed. The transcript cuts off the exact speed target, but the idea is comparing different versions’ quickness.

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275

"But instead of around that 330 mile range, we're looking at 275. That seems to come"

The “275” number is the estimated distance this EV version can drive on a charge. It’s meant to help you compare range between the different trims.

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aerodynamics

"If you want to go that far, then really you're going to end up with something that's super aerodynamic looking. So it looks like an egg and nobody wants to buy those."

Aerodynamics is how the car’s shape affects how easily it moves through the air. If a car is more slippery through the air, it uses less energy and can drive farther on the same battery.

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battery

"Or you put in a much bigger battery, which is the GM root, but then the price and the weight go up and you don't make any money."

The battery is what stores the electricity for an EV. A bigger battery can usually go farther, but it can also make the car heavier and more expensive.

Company

GM

"Or you put in a much bigger battery, which is the GM root, but then the price and the weight go up and you don't make any money."

GM is a major automaker. In this discussion, the host is basically saying that some companies try to get more EV range by just putting in bigger batteries, which can make the car heavier and pricier.

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airflow

"So even little things like the shape of the alloy wheels is designed to improve the airflow... And that's all about airflow as well."

Airflow is just how air moves around the car. If the car’s shape makes the air flow more smoothly, it can use less energy and go farther on a charge.

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alloy wheels

"So even little things like the shape of the alloy wheels is designed to improve the airflow."

Alloy wheels are wheels made from a lightweight metal mix. The host is saying the wheel design can be shaped to help air flow better around the car, which can improve efficiency.

Concept

compromise

"So there's a lot of things going on in this vehicle, but ultimately, it is a compromise because they want big wheels."

A compromise means you can’t optimize everything at once. The host is saying the vehicle has to balance looks and big wheels with the need to be efficient so it can get more range.

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price point

"it's not at a price point that makes sense for a car... getting you at a price point where it's going to sell vehicles."

Price point just means the price level where enough people will actually buy the car. The host is saying the design has to be efficient enough to meet range goals without making the vehicle too expensive.

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autonomy

"There's a lot of talk about solid state and everything else, but nobody's quite sure where it's coming at scale. Same with autonomy. I mean, one of the things Rivian's also pushing was autonomy."

Autonomy means how much the car can drive by itself. The more autonomy a system has, the more it tries to handle things like speed and lane changes without you doing everything.

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solid state

"There's a lot of talk about solid state and everything else, but nobody's quite sure where it's coming at scale."

Solid-state is a type of battery design that could be safer and store more energy than today’s common batteries. The host is saying people talk about it, but it’s not clear yet when it will be widely available.

Car

Rivian

"Same with autonomy. I mean, one of the things Rivian's also pushing was autonomy. There's a lot of similarities, maybe not in politics and personality between Elon Musk and RJ Scaringer, who runs Rivian."

Rivian is an electric vehicle company. Here, they’re mentioned because they’re working on software that aims to make the car drive more on its own.

Person

RJ Scaringer

"There's a lot of similarities, maybe not in politics and personality between Elon Musk and RJ Scaringer, who runs Rivian. But they're both technologists and they both get excited about similar stuff."

RJ Scaringer is a key executive at Rivian, described here as running the company. The host uses him to connect Rivian’s leadership mindset to the company’s focus on autonomy and advanced technology.

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FSD

"I've been chugging around this week in Edmund's Tesla Model Y with FSD, the full self-driving technology, which I don't know if we're going to talk about this, but I'm going to share this at Langdow anyway."

FSD stands for Full Self-Driving. It’s Tesla’s software that tries to help the car drive more on its own, like handling traffic and lane changes, but you still have to stay alert and ready to take over.

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confidence point

"Now they seem to go to a confidence point where you can sort of look around a little bit more, not quite sit there and do your emails, but getting close."

A “confidence point” here refers to the system deciding it’s sufficiently sure about what it sees and predicts—so it allows more driver inattention or more automated behavior. As the software improves, the threshold for that confidence can change, which is why the speaker says it’s “less sensitive” now.

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full self driving

"And it also runs a statistic in the car. And obviously this is a car that's shared across the team. And since this latest update, it gives you a percentage of time that you've used full self driving."

“Full self driving” is an advanced driver-assist system that tries to do a lot of the driving for you. Even when it’s on, you still have to watch the road and be ready to take over.

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Tesla plug

"is that charging infrastructure that Tesla has done so well? Like now everybody's adding Tesla plug. Yeah. It's got a Tesla plug."

“Tesla plug” means the connector type Tesla uses for charging. The big deal is that other brands are starting to use the same connector so their cars can use Tesla’s chargers more easily.

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Nax North American Standard

"Like now everybody's adding Tesla plug. Yeah. It's got a Tesla plug. Everybody's gone Nax North American Standard, which is basically Tesla plug."

“Nax North American Standard” appears to be a mis-transcription of NACS (North American Charging Standard), the connector standard associated with Tesla’s charging ecosystem. The point is that automakers are aligning to a common standard to reduce friction for drivers and improve charger compatibility.

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burn rate

"I was speaking to somebody from Tesla and he was comparing Tesla's burn rate at a similar point in their existence to Rivian's and Rivian's is far, far higher..."

Burn rate means how quickly a company is running through its money. If it’s high, the company may need to sell cars successfully sooner or find more funding.

Car

Rivian R3

"But yeah, it's, yeah, R2's make or break for them. And then the R3 is that one that looks like a Mk1 Golf. That's coming down the line, but that's still a couple of years ago."

Rivian R3 is another future electric Rivian model. The host says it’s designed to look like a classic compact car (like a Mk1 Golf), which they think could help it attract more buyers.

Car

Lucid Gravity

"So I think it's got every chance. It's a desirable product and in a way that I think like the Lucid, like the Lucid Gravity is a decent car, but I don't think it has that kind of desirability. Also released too early."

Lucid Gravity is Lucid’s electric SUV. The host thinks it didn’t become as popular as it could have because it arrived before it was fully ready, so early reviews and owner experiences weren’t strong.

Car

Lucid Air

"Also released too early. They put it out there and it didn't work well. And, you know, between journalists and owners of the car, it didn't work well enough. That's the mistake that they made with the air as well."

Lucid Air is Lucid’s main electric sedan. The host is saying Lucid had problems with the Air too, and that early reviews from car writers and actual owners didn’t go well enough.

Car

Ford Gets

"...th Alan Clark, one of the big things he said was, Ford gets deriders being bureaucratic or old school and eve..."
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plug-in hybrid

"We're going to talk EV and plug in hybrid. Let's take a quick break first and then we'll be right back. [1822.8s] Okay, we're back. I'm going to kick this off first because I've been driving the Lexus RX... [1849.1s] and their F performance version of it. I drove the plug-in hybrid version of it..."

A plug-in hybrid is a car that uses both gas and electricity. You can charge it by plugging it in, and it can often drive a while on electric power before the gas engine takes over.

Car

Lexus RX 450H Plus

"Okay, we're back. I'm going to kick this off first because I've been driving the Lexus RX. [1829.3s] They're very popular SUV. The one I've driven is the RX 450H Plus or something. Now, this is a [1840.3s] two-row SUV. They have a gas engine version, an electric version, a plug-in hybrid version, [1849.1s] and their F performance version of it. I drove the plug-in hybrid version of it, [1857.2s] which Lexus claims gets about 38 miles on pure electric."

This is a Lexus RX that’s a plug-in hybrid, meaning it has both a gas engine and an electric system. You can charge it from a plug, and Lexus says it can drive about 38 miles on electricity before the gas engine helps again.

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pure electric

"I drove the plug-in hybrid version of it, [1857.2s] which Lexus claims gets about 38 miles on pure electric. No secret here. I'm not the customer [1867.5s] for a plug-in electric."

“Pure electric” means the car is running on electricity only, using the battery. In a plug-in hybrid, once the battery gets low, the gas engine usually helps or takes over.

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12-volt outlet

"The plug-in hybrid, it doesn't really work for me. Living in an apartment, [1874.9s] if I was just going to plug this thing into a 12-volt outlet, a 120-volt outlet every night, [1880.9s] let it charge for 12 hours..."

A 12-volt outlet is the small power socket you might use for accessories in a car. It’s generally not meant for charging a plug-in hybrid the way you’d use a normal home outlet.

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120-volt outlet

"Living in an apartment, [1874.9s] if I was just going to plug this thing into a 12-volt outlet, a 120-volt outlet every night, [1880.9s] let it charge for 12 hours, get up in the morning, have my 38 miles of range..."

A 120-volt outlet is a normal household plug. Charging on it is often slower than faster charging setups, so you may need to leave the car plugged in longer to get enough range.

Car

Lexus ES

"I was driving the new ES, which is the brand new sedan, which actually costs pretty much the same money... With the ES, they've said, right, we're going to have full electric or hybrid..."

The Lexus ES is a luxury sedan from Lexus. In this episode, they’re talking about a new version that can be electric or hybrid, and it’s priced close to the Lexus RX SUV.

Car

Lexus RX

"RX has obviously been around about three years now. You're right. It's not class-leading, but there's a lot of things that just Lexus do well, and the quality always feels good."

The Lexus RX is a luxury SUV. It’s popular because it’s comfortable and easy to live with, and Lexus offers different versions with different types of electric help.

Car

Mercedes-Benz GLE

"...n SUV, and it's a kind of competitiveness and the GLE. It's that sort of size, but then the ES is now t..."

The Mercedes-Benz GLE is a luxury SUV. It’s designed to be comfortable and upscale while still being practical for everyday use. The podcast mentions it to compare the size category of the car being discussed.

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underpinnings

"Is it kind of like tarted up Camry? Well, it's a bit more than that because this is a sort of new underpinnings."

Underpinnings are the car’s main “foundation,” like how the body and chassis are built. When a car gets new underpinnings, it usually means it’s a bigger redesign than just cosmetic changes.

Car

Toyota Camry

"...It's easy as always. Is it kind of like tarted up Camry? Well, it's a bit more than that because this is ..."

The Toyota Camry is a midsize sedan meant for everyday driving. People choose it because it’s comfortable and straightforward to own. The podcast mentions it as a comparison point for a more upgraded version of that kind of car.

Car

Mercedes E-Class

"It's bigger than before because it's designed to kind of bridge a gap between the old ES and things like the LS. It's kind of a bit bigger. It's sort of more like a Mercedes E-Class rival..."

The Mercedes E-Class is a well-known luxury sedan. They’re using it as a comparison point for how big and positioned the new Lexus ES is.

Car

BMW 5-Series

"It's sort of more like a Mercedes E-Class rival, but a little bit cheaper, BMW 5-Series or i5, that kind of car."

The BMW 5-Series is a popular luxury sedan line. They’re saying the new Lexus ES is aiming at the same general category of car.

Concept

renaissance of the sedan

"thought. The sedan is having a bit of a renaissance. Why is the RX still previous generation Lexus? The ES is next generation, so you've got different design language, particularly inside... We might be about to see the rebirth of the sedan as being, ...everybody's gone SUV crazy..."

They’re talking about sedans possibly becoming popular again. The reason they give is that SUVs have been dominating, but efficient hybrid or EV options could make sedans more appealing.

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front-wheel drive

"They do two EVs, one of which is front-wheel drive, the one I had, and they do an all-wheel drive one."

Front-wheel drive (FWD) means the engine’s power is sent to the front wheels, which handle both steering and traction. The hosts mention an ES EV setup that’s FWD, contrasting it with an all-wheel drive version.

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Mark Levinson Hi-Fi

"Plenty fast enough. Great Mark Lemonson Hi-Fi. I thought people would be interesting because people are going to go, no, I buy the SUV, but I think it's like the thinking person's choice."

Mark Levinson Hi-Fi is a high-end sound system in some luxury cars. They’re saying the ES they drove had really good audio.

Car

Hyundai Ioniq

"...out the Lexus plug-in hybrid for the all-electric Hyundai Ioniq 9 and they said the nice version, they said a nic..."

The Hyundai Ioniq 5 is an all-electric SUV. It’s meant to be a practical EV you can use day to day. The podcast mentions it while comparing different electric options and what people might want from them.

Car

Hyundai Ioniq 9

"I swapped out the Lexus plug-in hybrid for the all-electric Hyundai Ioniq 9... This is the full EV version... I still have it now and I've been driving it and I really like it... we're still in this 300 mile, 310, 315 mile range of EVs"

The Hyundai Ioniq 9 is a fully electric family SUV with three rows. The host likes it for long-distance driving because it can go roughly 300 miles on a charge and has a roomy, comfortable interior.

Car

Hyundai Palisade Calligraphy

"I was already so impressed with the Hyundai Palisade calligraphy... The Palisade is sharp looking... especially in its price point."

The Hyundai Palisade is a big family SUV with three rows. “Calligraphy” is the nicer, more premium version, and the host thinks some buyers prefer it over the electric Ioniq 9 because it can be easier to live with financially.

Car

Kia EV9

"I think it's just whether you like the look of the Hyundai and the interior of the Hyundai versus the Kia... It's a nice thing, isn't it?... It's the Kia EV9 in a different dress, basically."

The Kia EV9 is an all-electric, three-row SUV. The host is saying the Ioniq 9 feels like a similar vehicle concept—just with different styling and interior choices.

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lease

"there are some mega deals on Ioniq 9s at the moment, particularly if you want a lease one."

A lease is like renting a car for a few years with monthly payments, and you usually have rules like mileage limits. The host is saying leasing can make the Ioniq 9 more appealing right now.

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depreciation

"I'm going to keep it a little bit longer and I feel a little bit better about the depreciation compared to the EVs"

Depreciation is how much the car’s value goes down as time passes. The host is saying people may worry less about losing money with the Palisade than with an EV.

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captain's chairs

"the one that I've been driving, this calligraphy edition, the interior is fantastic. It's got captain's chairs for the second row."

Captain’s chairs are separate seats in the middle row instead of one long bench. They usually feel more comfortable and can make it easier for people to get in and out of the back row.

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infotainment

"One of the things that you pick up on with the Hyundai C, Ioniq 5, even the Tucson and this and the Palisade is the infotainment, the gauges in front of you, the big screen and it goes to the infotainment."

Infotainment is the car’s main screen system for things like navigation and media. It’s what you use for maps, music, and many car settings.

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wing mirrors

"They have cameras for the rear view mirrors, for the wing mirrors. Oh, they do. Yeah. That's the screen for the camera."

Wing mirrors are the side mirrors on the doors. The host is saying some cars use cameras instead of traditional mirrors, but the US doesn’t allow it.

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rear view mirrors

"Because it's on the Korean spec cars and I think maybe the European ones as well. They have cameras for the rear view mirrors, for the wing mirrors. Oh, they do. Yeah. That's the screen for the camera."

The host is talking about mirror cameras—cameras that replace or supplement the mirrors. Instead of looking at the mirror directly, you see the camera image on a screen.

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US legislation

"Oh, they do. Yeah. That's the screen for the camera. But in the US, legislation doesn't allow it. It's not legal. So they have to put that like bit of foam that looks like Agri looks like a speaker, but actually isn't."

The host is saying US rules don’t allow certain camera-mirror setups that other countries can have. So the car has to be modified for the US.

Car

BMW M3

"The BMW M3, which Le Mans is taking place this weekend, which I've been to many, many times. [2546.4s] Do you have any other opportunities? It's a fantastic event. I have not. It's definitely on [2550.2s] my bucket list. It's crazy. I used to, when I lived in Europe, used to go nearly every year. [2555.4s] It's, it's amazing, amazing times there. But BMW took the opportunity to show a concept version [2561.6s] of the M3."

The BMW M3 is BMW’s high-performance model that’s built to drive really well, not just look sporty. Here they’re talking about a new BMW M3 concept and how BMW plans to offer both electric and gas versions next.

Place

Le Mans

"The BMW M3, which Le Mans is taking place this weekend, which I've been to many, many times. [2546.4s] Do you have any other opportunities? It's a fantastic event. I have not. It's definitely on"

Le Mans is one of the most famous car races in the world, known for long endurance racing. Car companies often use it as a big moment to show off new performance cars and tech.

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electric version

"But BMW took the opportunity to show a concept version [2561.6s] of the M3. So with the next generation car, they're going to do both. And similar to what [2567.3s] Lexus is doing with the ES, they're going to offer an electric version and a gas version."

An electric version is a car that uses electric motors for power instead of a gas engine. Here they’re saying the electric BMW M3 would use multiple motors and smart control to manage the car’s behavior.

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four electric motors

"The electric version sounds like it's going to have four electric motors and some very fancy [2575.7s] software that basically controls each wheel, which should, it should be really interesting"

Four electric motors usually means the car can control power to each wheel separately. That can help the car accelerate harder and stay more stable when the road grip changes.

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turbocharged six cylinder engine

"And then there will be a gas version, which we believe will [2585.8s] have a turbocharged six cylinder engine. And they'll probably end up costing similar money."

A turbocharged six-cylinder engine is a gas engine with six cylinders that uses a turbo to make more power. The turbo helps it feel stronger without needing a bigger engine.

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BMW i3

"...ey've got the AX3 here. They're going to have the I3, they've got the I5. I'd be amazed if they don't...."

The BMW i3 is a small electric car. It was one of BMW’s earlier EVs and is known for having a unique design. The podcast mentions it while talking about BMW’s electric lineup and what models are expected.

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Ix3S

"... perspective, I think, you know, BMW is all in on IX3s and everything else. I think I'd be astonished if..."

The BMW iX3 is an electric SUV. It’s meant to be a practical size for everyday driving, but powered by electricity. The podcast mentions it to talk about BMW’s plans for electric SUVs.

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Bmw M1

"But do you like it? Do you like the [2636.0s] look of it? I kind of do. I mean, I'm definitely picking up, you know, some DNA of BMW M1 and [2643.0s] M1 Pro car and a little bit of, you know, eight series, you know, old, you know, 850. I'm getting"

The BMW M1 is an older, very special BMW supercar that’s known for its distinctive look and racing history. The host is saying the new BMW M3 design reminds them of that classic BMW vibe.

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BMW 8 series

"I'm definitely picking up, you know, some DNA of BMW M1 and [2643.0s] M1 Pro car and a little bit of, you know, eight series, you know, old, you know, 850. I'm getting"

The BMW 8 Series is a more upscale, long-distance BMW model line. The host is saying the new BMW M3 concept looks like it borrows some styling cues from that older 8 Series era.

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ducktail spoiler

"It's got this kind of very sort of aggressive ducktail spoiler at the rear on the boot lid or sorry, trunk lid, which looks, which I think that looks looks quite cool."

A ducktail spoiler is a rear wing shape that sticks up a bit at the back. It helps the car feel more planted at higher speeds by using airflow to push the tires down.

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heat extractor

"You've got a big intake on top of the hood. Yeah, more of a heat extractor, but on an EV, I don't know."

A heat extractor is a vent that helps get hot air out of the car. Even electric cars need cooling for the battery and electronics, so vents can help keep temperatures under control.

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downforce

"That could just be part of adding some downforce to the front end, have it go through the bottom of the grille and then through and out through that, that heat extractor on the hood wouldn't be heat necessarily, but pushing that front end down."

Downforce is the “pressing down” effect from the car’s shape and airflow. It helps the tires grip the road better, especially when you’re going fast or cornering.

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BMW M2

"...eresting. So it's, it looks a little bit like the M2, but feels at least on the pictures, looks seems ..."

The BMW M2 is a small, sporty performance car. It’s designed to feel fun and quick to drive, with a more compact shape than bigger performance BMWs. The podcast brings it up because the car being discussed seems to share some of that look, even if it feels different.

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race harnesses

"But again, you've got, I mean, the concept cars got bucket seats with race harnesses. But if you ditch the race harnesses, you pretty much got the interior..."

Race harnesses are stronger, multi-point seat belts used in track cars. They keep the driver held in place better during hard turns and braking.

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bucket seats

"But if you ditch the race harnesses, you pretty much got the interior and, you know, lots of M car cues and the colouring and everything else. But again, you've got, I mean, the concept cars got bucket seats with race harnesses."

Bucket seats are shaped to “hug” you more than regular seats. They help keep you in place during aggressive driving, and they’re common in race-inspired cars.

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trapezoidal screen

"But again, you've got that kind of weird trapezoidal screen that every X3 and three series will have dials along the top."

A trapezoidal screen is just a dashboard display that has an angled, non-rectangular shape. It’s a design choice that changes how the cockpit looks and where the information sits.

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rev counter

"You know, you're not going to have a big rev count. And I mean, it's a bit of a shame you have the rev counter in the same way on the, on the gas car."

A rev counter tells you how fast the engine is spinning, usually shown as RPM. EVs don’t work the same way as gas engines, so having a rev-style gauge can feel a bit out of place.

Car

Neuer Class

"...o say that of all the, you know, I quite like the Neuer class design stuff. And I looked at this and thought, y..."

Neue Klasse is BMW’s new approach for future cars, including how they’re designed. The podcast mentions it because the speaker thinks the new design direction looks good. It’s more about the platform and styling direction than one specific vehicle you can buy today.

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sleepers

"Is this going to be the design language for the three series and four series? Or is this meant to really look different so you don't confuse, you know, a three series with an M3? No, I've already seen that the three series is going to, this is the three series with, it's got, it's, it's had its testosterone or it's been on the, it's been juiced, as they say. [2788.5s] Is this going to be the design language for the three series and four series? Or is this [2794.8s] meant to really look different so you don't confuse, you know, a three series with an M3? No, I've already seen that the three series is going to, this is the three series with,"

A “sleeper” is a car that doesn’t look like a super-fast performance car, but it actually is. The speaker is saying the M3s they’re talking about weren’t really that kind of disguise—they were more understated than flashy.

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BMW E30

"...subtle. I think there's a little bit, even of the E30, which was the famous late 80s, which had the fle..."

The BMW 3 Series is a compact luxury car. It’s often talked about because it’s meant to drive in a sporty way while still being practical. The podcast brings up an older 3 Series to reference the kind of look or vibe people remember.

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BMW M5

"...pe it's not too complicated. Like you look at the M5, too much going on. Yeah. I think there's a time ..."

The BMW M5 is a powerful, performance-focused luxury sedan. It’s meant to be fast and exciting to drive, not just comfortable. The podcast mentions it to describe how its performance can feel manageable rather than overly complicated.

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goat modes

"Right. Yeah. It's interesting because even on, I don't know, some of like Ford's off-road vehicles with their goat modes and it has like trail and sand and rock and, and, and even then too many people were asking like, what mode do I put it in when I'm on this? So they simplified that whole"

“Goat modes” is a slang way of referring to selectable drive modes on off-road vehicles (like sand/rock/trail). The speaker’s point is that too many mode choices can confuse drivers—especially when they just want the car to handle the situation without thinking.

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Ford Bronco

"...re trying to get new people into something like a Bronco and go, hey, you should start going off-road. You..."

The Ford Bronco is an SUV built for off-road driving. It’s designed to handle rough roads and trails better than many regular SUVs. The podcast mentions it because it’s being used to bring new people into off-roading.

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M1

"and that there's an M1, there's an M2 and what does it mean? And you got a program stuff and you can set like, it was interesting because"

On some BMW M cars, M1 and M2 are buttons that save your favorite driving settings. Pressing them lets you switch setups quickly.

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Toyota Prius

"we've owned a whole bunch of hybrids over a 20 year period starting with the original Prius"

The Toyota Prius is a hybrid car that became famous for saving gas. The host is using it as the first example in a long-term test of whether hybrids actually meet the official mileage numbers.

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EPA

"Not one of them has hit its EPA, average fuel consumption, and most of them have been a long way off"

EPA is the U.S. agency that sets the official fuel-economy test results you see on labels. The hosts are saying their real-world driving often gets worse mileage than the EPA estimate.

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Honda Civic

"So even if you look at the 25 Civic hybrid, which, you know, was a Edmunds top radar, best, the best, the best winner, great car. You know, that's done 41 miles to gallon up"

The Honda Civic Hybrid is a Civic that uses a hybrid system to help save gas. The host is saying even with a popular hybrid like this, real mileage may not match the official EPA number.

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Ford Maverick

"and this is like running it for 20,000 miles and living with it day to day. Ford Maverick 33 against 37."

The Ford Maverick is a small pickup truck. The host mentions it because even in a hybrid setup, the real gas mileage may not line up with the EPA estimate.

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Grand Highlander

"same Grand Highlander Hyundai Santa Fe hybrid. I'm not a fan of the EPA stuff generally"

The Toyota Grand Highlander is a bigger family SUV. The host brings it up to say that real-world gas mileage for hybrids may not match the EPA numbers you’d expect.

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Hyundai Santa Fe hybrid

"same Grand Highlander Hyundai Santa Fe hybrid. I'm not a fan of the EPA stuff generally"

The Hyundai Santa Fe Hybrid is a family SUV that uses a hybrid system to save gas. The host is using it as another example where real mileage can be worse than the EPA estimate.

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fuel consumption

"But I tend to find a lot of the fuel consumption or the hybrid seats, it's, you know, you're really struggling to ever match what it's claiming."

Fuel consumption is basically how much gas the car uses. The hosts are saying the car may use more fuel in real life than the official test suggests.

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real world range test

"What's the difference between, let's say, the Edmunds real world range test versus the EPAs? What the EPA does? ... These figures that we're talking about here are actually more about, we've owned it for a year, and this is where it's landed."

A real-world range test tries to measure how far the car goes in everyday driving, not just in a lab. The idea is to see what you’d likely experience day to day.

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60% town, 40% highway

"We actually do a specific route, 60% town, 40% highway, and that's really simulating worldwide driving."

That phrase is a way of describing a driving route mix: more city driving than highway. Since city driving uses energy differently (more stops), the split helps the test match how people actually drive.

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