Hocevar Rides the Dente To Victory, New NASCAR CEO, Texas Picks, and MORE!!!
About this episode
Carson Hocevar’s first Cup win at Talladega drives the conversation, especially his wild celebration and what it says about his personality and future. The hosts also dig into why the superspeedway race itself left them frustrated, arguing the current package makes Daytona and Talladega feel too strategy-driven and predictable. From there, they hit points implications, playoff seeding, TV coverage complaints, and a broader look at how first-time winners swept the weekend across NASCAR’s national series.
NASCAR Cup Series
"Gentlemen, it is time for us to ride the dente as we reflect on Carson Josebar's very first NASCAR Cup Series victory at Talladega Super Speedway."
NASCAR has different racing levels. The Cup Series is the top level, so a “Cup Series victory” means winning one of NASCAR’s biggest races.
The NASCAR Cup Series is NASCAR’s top-level stock-car racing series in the United States. When the hosts say “Cup Series victory,” they mean a win in the highest tier of NASCAR competition.
Talladega Super Speedway
"...Carson Josebar's very first NASCAR Cup Series victory at Talladega Super Speedway. Drinks on you, Danny, is that what I'm hearing?"
Talladega is a well-known NASCAR race track. It’s famous for fast, tightly grouped racing where cars often run together closely.
Talladega Super Speedway is a famous NASCAR track known for its high speeds and close racing. It’s especially associated with “pack racing,” where many cars run together and strategy and drafting matter a lot.
stage points
"[141.3s] Except Brad. [143.4s] He was still decent before. [146.0s] He did. He got a lot of stage points."
NASCAR races are split into sections called stages. Drivers can earn extra points during those sections, not just based on who crosses the finish line first.
Stage points are bonus points earned during NASCAR races at designated “stages” (segments) before the final finish. They matter because they can boost a driver’s points total even if the race result isn’t a win.
Palladega
"[146.0s] He did. He got a lot of stage points. [147.5s] He was good, but Palladega is going to Palladega. [150.6s] Ever now and then we got to remind the world"
They’re talking about Talladega, a NASCAR track where races can get wild and unpredictable. The joke is that Talladega always seems to produce chaos.
“Palladega” is a reference to Talladega Superspeedway, one of NASCAR’s most chaotic tracks where pack racing and big accidents are common. The line “Palladega is going to Palladega” is basically saying unpredictable racing is part of the venue’s character.
Wheel
"[150.6s] Ever now and then we got to remind the world [152.5s] that we still do know Wheel. [154.8s] Yeah."
This word is unclear in the transcript. It sounds like the hosts are referencing something they usually talk about related to NASCAR strategy or odds.
“Wheel” appears to be a mishearing or shorthand in the transcript, but in context it’s likely referring to a recurring NASCAR segment or concept the hosts use when talking about odds/points. Without clearer wording, it’s not safe to map it to a specific technical automotive term.
tank for Watkins Glen
"[159.3s] we'll see later on the show how points look, [161.0s] but I'm wondering, did it ruin your odds [163.2s] to tank for Watkins Glen and what you've been saying?"
“Tanking” here means not trying as hard to win right now. They’re talking about whether something that happened earlier made it harder to plan for the next race at Watkins Glen.
In NASCAR, “tanking” means intentionally running in a way that sacrifices position or results to improve future odds—often by aiming for a better starting position or playoff/points strategy. “Watkins Glen” refers to the Watkins Glen race weekend, so the phrase suggests they’re weighing whether a prior outcome hurt their plan for that next event.
Truck race
"[188.4s] I mean, you know, we are heading to Texas. [192.8s] Truck pick right there. [194.9s] Is he in the truck race? [196.7s] Yeah. [197.2s] Yeah. [197.5s] He's full time in 91."
A “Truck race” means the NASCAR Truck Series. Instead of the usual race cars, teams race pickup-truck-style stock cars, and they compete for their own season title.
“Truck race” refers to NASCAR’s Truck Series, a national touring series where teams race pickup trucks rather than full-size stock cars. It’s a separate championship with its own points and regular drivers.
SVG
"I am genuinely considering tanking this week for SVG at Watkins Glen. But we'll see."
SVG here is shorthand for a driver name. The host is talking about whether to bet/choose that driver for the Watkins Glen race.
SVG is a racing driver abbreviation used in NASCAR fantasy/coverage contexts. In this segment, it’s referenced as the person the host is considering “tanking” for at Watkins Glen.
Carl Edwards
"We're not going to say to become the Carl Edwards doing a backflip every time or Cobbless doing a bow."
Carl Edwards is a famous NASCAR driver. People remember him for big, showy celebrations after winning, like doing a backflip.
Carl Edwards is a well-known NASCAR driver famous for memorable, sometimes theatrical, victory celebrations. The host compares the winner’s celebration to Edwards’ backflip tradition.
Cobbless
"every time or Cobbless doing a bow. But for the very first one, man, that was special."
“Cobbless” sounds like a nickname for another driver. The host is saying they won’t all celebrate in the same dramatic way.
“Cobbless” appears to be a nickname/short name for another NASCAR figure associated with a bow-style celebration. The host is using it as a comparison for how celebrations usually look after wins.
start your engines
"[288.0s] I was like, if he did that, like that would be put on every [291.6s] compilation with Kevin James saying gentlemen, [294.1s] start your engines at the start of it with like pro America, [296.6s] rah, rah, that would be right there."
It’s a common race phrase that means the cars are about to get ready to go. The teams start up the engines so the race can begin.
“Start your engines” is a racing command used to signal that teams should prepare and the engines will be started for the race/heat. In NASCAR broadcasts, it’s often paired with hype and pre-race rituals for fans.
Atlanta
"I mean, he was second at Atlanta last year."
Atlanta is another NASCAR track where races happen. The host is pointing out the driver has been near the front there too.
“Atlanta” here refers to a NASCAR race at Atlanta Motor Speedway. The speaker is using it as an example of how close the driver has been to winning.
Daytona 500
"He was leading the last lap of the Daytona 500 this year."
The Daytona 500 is NASCAR’s biggest race of the year. If you’re leading near the end, it means you’re doing something really impressive.
The Daytona 500 is NASCAR’s most prestigious race, held at Daytona International Speedway. Because it’s a season highlight, leading late in the race is a major accomplishment.
car failures
"Like last year, there were some races in the middle of the summer. He could have won if not for some car failures and situational mishaps."
Car failures are when something on the race car breaks or doesn’t work right. In NASCAR, that can quickly ruin a driver’s chances.
“Car failures” means mechanical or systems problems that prevent a car from performing as intended. In NASCAR, even a small issue can cost laps, positions, or a chance to win.
super speedways
"The super speedways always seem to be the most likely place for his first win to happen. And now that it's here, it does certainly feel like, Hey, maybe the floodgates are open and he could get another one sooner rather than later."
Super speedways are the biggest, fastest NASCAR tracks. The idea here is that those tracks can make it easier for a driver to get their first win.
Super speedways are very large NASCAR tracks designed for high speeds, typically with wide racing surfaces and long straightaways. The hosts are pointing out that these tracks often create the right conditions for early wins to happen.
Dale junior
"He was at the 2014 Daytona 500. Dale junior in that race is like out the window and waving at the fans and stuff. And like his rationale that he was saying is that he, you know, he doesn't know like whether or not the fans could see that you see them."
“Dale junior” is Dale Earnhardt Jr., a famous NASCAR driver. They’re talking about what he did during the race and why it mattered to fans.
“Dale junior” refers to Dale Earnhardt Jr., a major NASCAR driver and fan favorite. In this segment, the hosts use his nickname to describe his in-race celebration and how he interacted with fans.
picker
"Not even counting the super speedways, but I mean, you look last year, he ran up there with Denny and Kyle Larson at Bristol before his picker took him out of it."
“Picker” is slang for the other car/driver that ruins your race. In this context, it means someone got him out of contention by causing a crash or bad situation.
“Picker” here is NASCAR slang for a driver or car that gets you in the wrong place at the wrong time—often by making contact or forcing a mistake—ending your run. It’s not a standard technical term, but it’s used to describe the person who “takes you out.”
Bristol
"last year, he ran up there with Denny and Kyle Larson at Bristol before his picker took him out of it."
Bristol is a NASCAR track famous for close, aggressive racing. The track is short, so drivers often have to fight for position and manage restarts carefully.
Bristol refers to Bristol Motor Speedway, a NASCAR track known for its short length and intense, physical racing. Because of the track’s characteristics, cautions, restarts, and car setup can heavily influence outcomes.
bleeding
"He blew an engine either bleeding or fighting for the lead of the Coke 600 last year."
“Bleeding” in racing talk usually means the car is losing performance due to a problem—most commonly a leak (like oil or fuel) or a system that’s not holding pressure. The phrase “bleeding or fighting for the lead” suggests the car had an issue that affected how long it could stay up front.
Coke 600
"He blew an engine either bleeding or fighting for the lead of the Coke 600 last year."
The Coke 600 is a major NASCAR race at Charlotte. It’s a long, high-stakes event where strategy and timing near the end matter a lot.
The “Coke 600” refers to the Coca-Cola 600, one of NASCAR’s marquee races held at Charlotte Motor Speedway. It’s known for its long distance and the way strategy and late-race execution can decide the winner.
Nashville
"He was second at Nashville racing Denny Hamlin and chasing chasing down Ryan Blaney."
Nashville is where NASCAR races on a specific track. Different tracks make cars behave differently, so results can depend on setup and driving style.
Nashville refers to the NASCAR event at Nashville’s circuit (often discussed as a newer/modern venue compared with older tracks). Track layout and surface characteristics can change how cars handle and how passing happens.
strategy
"And he, due to partially strategy, but also speed was running up front, leading at Michigan with 15 to go last year."
Strategy is the game plan during the race—when to pit and how to manage tires and fuel. The right calls can help a driver stay up front when it matters most.
In NASCAR, “strategy” covers decisions like when to pit, how to manage tires and fuel, and how to time track position. Even if a driver is fast, the right strategy can be what keeps them leading late in the race.
leading at Michigan with 15 to go
"And he, due to partially strategy, but also speed was running up front, leading at Michigan with 15 to go last year."
“15 to go” means the race is almost over—about 15 laps left. Being in the lead that late usually means the car is working well and the driver is managing tires and fuel to the finish.
“Leading with 15 to go” means the driver was in first place during the final 15 laps of the race. Late-race leadership is a key indicator because restarts, tire wear, and fuel/engine management often determine who can actually finish the job.
Spire
"It wasn't the greatest of time, which is kind of how I see Spire right now. We're seeing Carson kind of, you know, outperforming where we might see Spire at this point."
“Spire” is the name of a NASCAR racing team. The hosts are talking about how that team’s results are trending this season.
“Spire” refers to Spire Motorsports, a NASCAR team. In the episode, they’re comparing how well the team is performing right now versus earlier expectations.
Ray Eberhand
"I think Casey Kane helped elevate Ray Eberhand there for a little bit. The hope is they keep getting better because, I mean, he just signed a long-term extension right before the season started."
Ray Eberhand is a person involved with the racing team. The speaker is saying Casey Kane helped the team improve and that included Eberhand.
Ray Eberhand is referenced as a key person associated with the team’s improvement. The host credits Casey Kane with helping elevate Eberhand’s role or performance.
Jeff Dickerson
"He gets along so well with Jeff Dickerson who largely runs the show over there. Yeah."
Jeff Dickerson is a key person in the team’s day-to-day operations. The host is saying Casey Kane works well with him.
Jeff Dickerson is mentioned as someone who largely “runs the show” for the team Casey Kane is associated with. In NASCAR, that kind of role typically means coordinating team operations and communications.
77
"Carson said that, like, most of the guys on that team, on that 77 were there three or four years ago when they were damn near last in points with Ty Dillon."
“77” is the race car number for that team’s entry. They’re saying the team has improved a lot since they used to struggle in the standings.
“77” refers to a NASCAR car number (the team’s entry). The host is saying most of the team members on that No. 77 were already there a few years ago when the team was near the bottom in points.
Ty Dillon
"Carson said that, like, most of the guys on that team, on that 77 were there three or four years ago when they were damn near last in points with Ty Dillon."
Ty Dillon is a NASCAR driver. The hosts are using his name to describe how the team performed a few years ago.
Ty Dillon is referenced as the driver associated with the team’s earlier struggles in the points standings. The context is historical comparison: the team was near last a few years ago with Dillon.
satellite teams
"They share data with those teams, but we are seeing the satellite teams sort of surge this year, 23-11 most notably with Tyler Reddick."
A satellite team is like a smaller NASCAR team that’s connected to a bigger team. They can get help—like information and setups—but they’re not always as well-funded as the top teams.
In NASCAR, a satellite team is a smaller team that’s closely affiliated with a bigger “main” team. They often share technical resources and data, but typically have fewer resources than the top organizations.
data sharing
"They share data with those teams, but we are seeing the satellite teams sort of surge this year, 23-11 most notably with Tyler Reddick."
Data sharing means teams trade performance information. That can help a smaller team make better decisions about how to set up the car and race it.
Data sharing refers to teams exchanging performance information such as car setup notes, telemetry, and strategy inputs. In modern NASCAR, this can help satellite teams improve faster by learning from the main teams’ development.
top fives
"I want them to get to the point where they're regularly battling for top fives with the top guys in the sport."
“Top fives” means you finish 5th or better. If a driver is regularly getting top-five finishes, it usually means the car and strategy are working well.
“Top fives” means finishing in the top five positions in a race. Consistently running top-five results is a key indicator of a team’s competitiveness in NASCAR.
win points
"And granted, the win points will add a little bit to that this week, but he's 67 points over Daniel Suarez currently"
Win points are the extra points you get for finishing first. In NASCAR, those points can move a driver up the standings pretty quickly.
“Win points” are the points a driver earns for winning a race under NASCAR’s points system. Those extra points can significantly affect the standings over a short stretch of races.
super speedway top five
"So even just a super speedway top five a pick me up. That's probably something the 48 team needs in general with it."
A super speedway is a huge NASCAR track where cars go really fast. Finishing in the top five means you placed among the best five cars, which is a big deal for a team trying to turn things around.
A “super speedway” is a very large NASCAR track where cars run high speeds and races often involve drafting. A “top five” means finishing in the first five positions, which is a strong result—especially for a team that’s struggling earlier in the season.
48 team
"That's probably something the 48 team needs in general with it. But now there was a rest of a race to talk about."
In NASCAR, teams are often identified by the car number they run. “The 48 team” just means the group that fields the car with number 48.
In NASCAR, “the 48 team” refers to the team associated with car number 48. The speaker is using it as shorthand for the driver/team they’re discussing, rather than a specific technical part of the car.
stages
"The stages were set up differently than the past few ... Ultimately it was the forwards who pitted once and saved the most fuel the whole time that made it to the end of the stage and won the stage."
In NASCAR, the race is divided into parts called stages. Drivers earn points at the end of each part, so teams often plan pit stops and driving intensity around those stage breaks.
NASCAR races are split into multiple segments called stages. Points are awarded based on finishing position at the end of each stage, which strongly influences strategy like when to pit and how hard to push.
pit stops
"They tried something different to force everyone to make two stops. ... Ultimately it was the forwards who pitted once and saved the most fuel the whole time that made it to the end of the stage and won the stage."
A pit stop is when the car pulls into the pits to get help, usually tires and sometimes fuel. Teams try to do it at the best time so they lose as little speed as possible.
A pit stop is when a car enters the pit lane to service—typically changing tires, adjusting the car, and sometimes refueling depending on the series rules. In stage racing, teams time pit stops to minimize time loss while meeting fuel and tire needs.
three wide
"It wasn't even three wide good eye candy like previous super speedways have been. It was two or three single car packs on separate ends of the racetrack. It was just, it wasn't fun."
“Three wide” means three cars are next to each other, all fighting for position. The host is saying the race didn’t have as much of that exciting, crowded racing as they expected.
“Three wide” describes three cars running side-by-side in the same corner or straight. It’s a common NASCAR excitement metric because it indicates drivers are pushing for position rather than getting stuck in single-file or small packs.
single car packs
"It was two or three single car packs on separate ends of the racetrack. It was just, it wasn't fun. And it was so long."
The host is describing the cars as breaking into small groups instead of staying together as one big pack. When that happens, it can be harder to pass and the race can feel less exciting.
“Single car packs” here refers to small groups of cars running together rather than one large, continuous pack. In NASCAR, pack size and how cars group up can strongly affect passing opportunities and overall race excitement.
pit timing
"That was almost two thirds of the race were sort of just strategy, I guess. It was bad. It was really, really bad."
Pit timing means when a team decides to come in for service during the race. Choosing the right moment can help you keep better position and have better grip when racing resumes.
Pit timing is when teams choose to stop for service relative to the race’s stage breaks and caution periods. It’s a key part of NASCAR strategy because it can determine track position and how fresh the tires are when the race restarts.
arrow deficiencies
"I'm glad they were able to run hard the final two stages for the most part, but then just the arrow deficiencies of this car rear their ugly head. And I didn't really enjoy that either."
This sounds like the car wasn’t handling as well as it should, likely because of how the air is flowing over it. When that happens, the car can feel worse as the race goes on, especially when drivers want to push.
“Arrow deficiencies” appears to be a mishearing/transcription of an aerodynamic-related issue (likely about aero balance or downforce). In NASCAR, aero performance determines how well the car turns and stays stable at speed, so deficiencies can make the car feel worse late in the run.
Talladega race
"It looked like every other Talladega race for the last five years..."
Talladega is a famous NASCAR track where cars run very fast and often stay close together. The hosts are saying this race felt similar to other Talladega races.
Talladega refers to Talladega Superspeedway, a NASCAR track known for high speeds and close racing. The hosts are comparing this race’s feel to other Talladega races, where drafting and pack behavior often dominate.
stage finished
"I would admit I saw the, I saw at least the vision in the way that the stage finished that NASCAR might have had like, hey, maybe if we have a longer run and they take different strategies will spread them out."
In NASCAR, the race is broken into sections called stages. When a stage ends, teams often change their plan for the rest of the race, like when to pit and how hard to push.
NASCAR races are split into stages, which are segments of the race where drivers can earn points. When the hosts say the “stage finished,” they’re referring to the end of one of those segments and how strategy often changes right after.
longer run
"...the vision in the way that the stage finished that NASCAR might have had like, hey, maybe if we have a longer run and they take different strategies will spread them out."
A “longer run” means the cars stay out for more laps before they pit. That can change how the tires feel and how fast the cars can go as the laps add up.
A “longer run” in NASCAR typically means staying out on track for more laps between pit stops. That affects tire wear, fuel usage, and how the car’s speed changes over time, which can influence whether the field spreads out or stays bunched.
different strategies
"...maybe if we have a longer run and they take different strategies will spread them out."
NASCAR teams don’t just drive—they plan. “Strategy” here means things like when to pit and how hard to run, which can affect how the race plays out later on.
In NASCAR, “strategy” usually means decisions about pit timing, tire/fuel management, and how aggressively to run during different parts of the race. Different strategies can change how tightly the field stays together and who has the best chance late in the race.
track position
"final 40 laps to hold on to that front row and keep that track position."
Track position just means where your car is relative to other cars on the track. Being ahead usually makes it easier to control the race and avoid getting trapped behind slower cars.
Track position is where a car sits on the circuit relative to others at any given time. In NASCAR, better track position often means you’re less likely to get stuck in traffic and can time pit stops and restarts more effectively.
side draft
"Like there was moments where Eric Jones got next to him and it was like, oh, but he's able to side draft, get to us and still make some moves."
Side draft is when one car stays next to another to “push” it forward using airflow. It helps them go faster together, which matters a lot in NASCAR races with lots of cars close together.
In NASCAR drafting, “side draft” is when a car runs alongside another to reduce aerodynamic drag and help both cars carry speed. It’s especially effective in pack racing because the cars can exchange momentum while staying close.
stage two
"He got that track position by lagging back in stage two and spending less time on pit road before stage three."
NASCAR splits the race into parts called stages. “Stage two” is the middle section, and drivers earn points and make strategy decisions based on how they do there.
NASCAR races are divided into stages, and “stage two” is the second segment of the event. Points are awarded based on finishing positions within each stage, which influences pit strategy and how aggressively drivers race before the stage ends.
pit road
"...spending less time on pit road before stage three."
Pit road is the lane where teams pull in to change tires, make adjustments, and refuel if needed. How long you stay there can make you gain or lose positions.
Pit road is the controlled area where teams service the car during scheduled stops. Time spent on pit road (and how quickly the car can be serviced) directly affects track position, especially around stage breaks and restarts.
restart
"Comes out second or third on the restart or for the restart."
A restart is when the race starts again after a yellow flag. The way cars line up and accelerate can decide who gets the best position right away.
A restart is when the race resumes after a caution period, with cars lined up and accelerating back to racing speed. Restarts are high-leverage moments because drafting and lane choice can quickly determine who gets track position.
pit box
"Like the pass for the win was spending three seconds in his pit box at the start of stage three."
A pit box is the team’s designated parking spot in the pit lane. “Three seconds in the pit box” means the team got in, did the work, and got back out very quickly.
A pit box is the specific numbered spot on pit road assigned to a team. When the speaker says the car spent “three seconds in his pit box,” they’re describing how quickly the team completed the stop and rejoined the race.
drafting
"So I just, I want to be able to celebrate these races and celebrate the winners as like true heroes. And it's hard for me to do that when I know that, you know, you could put just about any NASCAR driver out front with traction at Daytona or Talladega..."
Drafting is when one car “rides in the air” behind another car to waste less energy. It helps the trailing car keep speed and makes it easier to stay up front on big tracks.
Drafting is when a car follows closely behind another to reduce aerodynamic drag, letting it maintain speed more efficiently. On NASCAR’s biggest superspeedways, drafting strongly influences who can lead and how long they can hold position.
traction
"you could put just about any NASCAR driver out front with traction at Daytona or Talladega and they'd hold it, you know..."
Traction is how much grip the tires have on the track. More traction means the car can stay planted and move faster without slipping.
Traction is the grip between the tires and the track surface that determines how effectively a car can accelerate, brake, and hold a line through turns. In NASCAR, traction is especially important for staying stable and fast when cars are fighting for position.
flaps
"There's been if changes outside of flaps to the A-posts, minimal changes for the most part to the super speedway cars."
“Flaps” here are small aerodynamic pieces on the car that help control how air flows around it. Changing them can change how planted the car feels at speed.
In NASCAR aerodynamics, “flaps” usually refers to adjustable aerodynamic surfaces used to manage airflow and downforce. Changes to these parts can affect stability and handling, especially at high-speed tracks.
A-posts
"There's been if changes outside of flaps to the A-posts, minimal changes for the most part to the super speedway cars."
The A-posts are the upright supports near the front of the roofline. NASCAR teams can change parts around that area to help the car handle better at speed.
“A-posts” are structural body pillars near the front of the cabin (the supports at the front corners of the roof). In NASCAR, modifications to A-post area components can be part of aerodynamic packages that influence airflow and stability.
super speedway cars
"We've seen this. There's been if changes outside of flaps to the A-posts, minimal changes for the most part to the super speedway cars."
NASCAR has different car setups depending on the track. “Super speedway cars” means the special configuration used for the biggest, fastest tracks where the cars run at very high speeds.
“Super speedway cars” refers to the NASCAR race setup used at very high-speed tracks (super speedways). These cars are typically configured with aerodynamic and mechanical changes to help stability and reduce drag at extreme speeds.
short tracks
"I get the short tracks were much more pressing issue, but still like these are the biggest races..."
Short tracks are smaller NASCAR tracks than the big high-speed ones. The host is saying NASCAR may have focused on short tracks first, and is only now turning more attention to the biggest races.
“Short tracks” are smaller NASCAR circuits that often create different racing dynamics than super speedways. The speaker notes they were seen as a more urgent issue earlier, implying rule or setup changes were prioritized there first.
stage three
"He didn't want to get into the details, but, but no, I don't want to see the stage three at Talladega repeat itself. That's not what I want to see."
NASCAR races are split into sections called stages. “Stage three” is the last section, and drivers often change strategy because points and race flow matter most near the end.
“Stage three” refers to the final segment of a NASCAR race under the sport’s stage format. NASCAR breaks races into multiple stages, and the way points and strategy are handled in each stage can strongly affect how drivers race late in the event.
lead changes every lap
"We don't want to see races decided on pit road 40. What are we talking about? We got lead changes every lap all the way to the finish."
They’re saying the lead switches from car to car almost constantly. That usually means the race is very close and exciting, not predictable.
“Lead changes every lap” describes extremely frequent changes in who is running first. In NASCAR, that’s a sign of tight competition and close racing, which the host uses to argue that the sport’s product is already exciting without relying on late-stage chaos.
Internet
"That's why I'm aggressive right now is I want to push back against that in case that's the why NASCAR is trying to go with Internet. We're smarter. Everyone watching is smarter than that."
They’re talking about how people watch and discuss races online. The point is that NASCAR shouldn’t make decisions just to fit what’s trending on the Internet.
Here, “Internet” is used as shorthand for how fans consume NASCAR content and react in real time. The speaker is pushing back on the idea that NASCAR should cater to online narratives rather than the actual racing product.
wicker bill
"The last super speedway of the year at Talladega, they put on the wicker bill. They had all these different arrow changes and the race ended up being a banger and everyone remembers it."
A “wicker bill” is a little spoiler-like piece NASCAR adds to the car. It changes the airflow over the hood to help the car behave better at very high speeds.
In NASCAR, a “wicker bill” is a small aerodynamic add-on mounted to the front of the car’s hood. It helps manage airflow and can influence handling and stability at high speeds, especially on superspeedways like Talladega.
arrow changes
"They had all these different arrow changes and the race ended up being a banger and everyone remembers it. Both as an awesome race that did go green for a long time."
“Arrow changes” sounds like they’re talking about changes to the car’s aerodynamic setup. NASCAR teams adjust aero pieces to help the car stick to the track and stay stable at high speed.
“Arrow changes” appears to refer to aerodynamic adjustment changes—likely changes to the car’s aero package (front splitter/airflow devices) used to alter downforce and stability. In NASCAR, these kinds of tweaks are often made to control speed and reduce unwanted handling characteristics.
go green
"Both as an awesome race that did go green for a long time. So it wasn't just wreck filled."
“Go green” means the race is back to normal racing speed after a caution. If it stays green for a long time, it usually means there weren’t many wrecks or debris cautions.
“Go green” means the race restarts under green-flag conditions, i.e., normal racing speed without a caution period. When a race “goes green for a long time,” it usually means fewer interruptions from crashes or debris, allowing sustained side-by-side racing.
super speedway racing
"It's quintessential NASCAR is super speedway racing. As many times as we can say, oh, I don't know if I want to keep doing this when a big wreck happens, you see other things like, yeah, this is it."
This is NASCAR racing on the biggest, fastest oval tracks. Because the track is so wide and fast, cars often run close together, which can lead to big packs and dramatic moments.
Super speedway racing refers to NASCAR events run on very large, high-speed oval tracks (typically 2+ miles). The cars are set up and raced in a way that emphasizes drafting and pack racing, which can make the racing feel both fast and chaotic.
lap 116
"It leads into moments like what happened on lap 116. Well, then that's that the package is exactly why we've seen this pretty damn often."
A lap number is just how far into the race they are. Lap 116 is a specific moment, and in NASCAR those moments can be important because strategy and track position start to really matter.
“Lap 116” is a specific point in the race where events can be analyzed in context—who was in the pack, what the track position was, and how strategy played out. In NASCAR, mid-to-late laps often matter because fuel, tire wear, and caution timing can shift the race.
the package
"Well, then that's that the package is exactly why we've seen this pretty damn often. It's like they can't get away from each other."
In NASCAR, “the package” is the set of rules and car settings NASCAR uses for a particular track. It changes how the cars drive and how fast they go, so it can make similar kinds of racing happen again and again.
In NASCAR, “the package” usually means the track-specific rules and car setup configuration—things like aerodynamics, engine/airflow restrictions, and other configuration choices that affect speed and handling. These packages are designed to control how cars behave, which is why the same package can lead to similar racing patterns.
big wreck
"In the case of this one, we had guys involved in the, in this year's big one that were there contending for the win at the end of this race because it was just that many cars that it couldn't eliminate them all, but they were still there."
A “big wreck” means a serious crash involving multiple cars. Because there are so many cars close together, it can happen fast and affect a lot of drivers at once.
In NASCAR, a “big wreck” is a major multi-car crash that can quickly remove several cars from contention. It often happens in dense traffic where drivers have less room to avoid contact.
bumper to bumper
"Well, the important thing is if you're going to get contact in that big wreck, you want it to be like, you know, first you want to be minimal contact and then you want it to be bumper to bumper."
“Bumper to bumper” means cars are packed very tightly together. When cars are that close, even small mistakes can lead to contact.
“Bumper to bumper” describes cars running extremely close together, which increases the chance of contact during a crash or sudden slowdown. In NASCAR, that closeness can make wrecks more chaotic but also explains why drivers may still be able to continue after minor impacts.
toe links
"If you get in the door, start breaking toe links, breaking, you know, that becomes the issue."
Toe links are parts in the suspension that help keep the wheels pointed the right way. If they get broken in a crash, the car can steer weirdly or become difficult to control.
Toe links are suspension components that help control wheel alignment—specifically the “toe” angle (whether the tires point slightly inward or outward). In a crash, damage to toe links can affect steering and tire wear, making the car harder to drive.
blow a tire
"He still finished 14th. He blew a tire again. He had two racks at the end of this race."
“Blow a tire” means the tire suddenly fails. That can make the car wobble or lose control, and the driver may have to slow down or pit.
“Blow a tire” means a tire fails suddenly, usually from impact damage, overheating, or debris. In NASCAR, a tire failure can destabilize the car immediately and often forces the driver to slow or pit.
big one
"Carson Hosevar was in the middle of the big one and somehow didn't hit anything. I went back when I was preparing for film room this week."
In NASCAR, a “big one” means a big wreck involving several cars. It usually causes a caution period so cars can slow down and get through the incident safely.
“Big one” is NASCAR slang for a large multi-car crash. It’s typically the kind of incident that brings out caution and can involve many cars at once.
film room
"I went back when I was preparing for film room this week. I'm like, you know, where was Hosevar in that big wreck?"
“Film room” is when the team watches video to figure out what went right or wrong. Drivers use it to learn from previous laps and improve for the next race.
“Film room” is the team’s review process where drivers and crew analyze race footage to understand what happened—lines, braking points, and incidents. It’s a key part of NASCAR preparation and strategy.
in car
"I'm watching his in car. And I'm like, I'm like, no way he didn't hit anything. So then I looked, I like went to like some of the guys behind like Bowman was right behind him."
“In car” means the camera view from inside the race car. It helps you see where the driver is looking and how close they get to other cars during a crash.
“In car” refers to onboard camera footage from inside the race car. It lets viewers see exactly what the driver sees—lines, spacing, and whether they make contact during a wreck.
banking
"Hey, stay high. They're more likely to wash down the banking as things change. You know, but it was like, I can't believe he wasn't dinged in that"
“Banking” is how a race track turn is angled. The higher outside helps cars go faster through the corner, but if things change, cars can slide differently.
“Banking” is the track’s curved surface that’s tilted upward toward the outside of the turn. The banking helps cars maintain speed through corners, but it can also affect how cars slide or “wash down” as conditions change.
wash down
"Hey, stay high. They're more likely to wash down the banking as things change. You know, but it was like, I can't believe he wasn't dinged in that"
“Wash down” means the car loses grip and drifts toward the bottom of the turn. It’s usually caused by changing traction as the race goes on.
“Wash down” describes a car sliding from the higher line toward the lower part of the track. In NASCAR, this often happens as tires wear, grip changes, or drivers get less traction than expected.
throw a block
"Did bubble Wallace throw a block? What do you guys think?"
“Throw a block” means trying to stop another car from passing by moving in front of it. If there’s not enough space, it can lead to contact and penalties.
“Throw a block” is NASCAR slang for making a defensive move intended to prevent a pass, usually by cutting across lanes or forcing the opponent to check up. Whether it’s legal depends on where the cars are relative to each other and how much room the blocking driver leaves.
late block
"Would you define that move as a late block? It was a bunch of momentum and he got hit."
A “late block” means one driver blocks another really late—so the other driver doesn’t have much time to avoid contact. People argue about whether it’s fair racing or just too risky.
A “late block” in NASCAR is when a driver moves to obstruct another car very late in the corner/entry or during a lane change, leaving the trailing driver little time to react. It’s often debated because it can be seen as either smart positioning or unsafe driving depending on timing and space.
Bubba Wallace
"Bubba period. It's enough of them where I feel the need to speak out definitively and say that is not a late block. Bubble Wallace did nothing there too."
Bubba Wallace is a NASCAR driver. Here, the hosts are arguing about whether his driving move was intentional blocking or just a risky lane choice.
Bubba Wallace is a NASCAR driver whose on-track decisions often become a big talking point in race discussions. In this segment, the hosts debate whether his move was a “late block” versus normal racing positioning.
picked a lane
"All the other lines had a run. He picked a lane."
“Picked a lane” just means the driver chose which lane to drive in. That choice can make it easier—or harder—for other cars to pass.
“Picked a lane” refers to choosing a specific racing line/lane to run in traffic, especially when multiple lanes are available. In NASCAR, lane choice affects momentum, passing opportunities, and whether you get caught in someone else’s blocking.
turn three
"[1498.9s] And then just, you know, turn three, we see it at Daytona. [1501.5s] We see it at Talladega. [1502.3s] That's a light part on the track."
“Turn three” is just the name of a particular corner on the track. Pointing to it helps explain where the problem started and what the cars were doing there.
“Turn three” is a specific corner reference used to pinpoint where on-track incidents occur. On oval tracks like Daytona and Talladega, identifying the corner helps explain the likely cause—such as entry speed, banking, and how cars line up through the turn.
light part on the track
"[1501.5s] We see it at Talladega. [1502.3s] That's a light part on the track. [1504.2s] Easy to turn someone, get them squarely and Bubba was already loose."
They’re describing a part of the track where the car doesn’t feel as “planted.” That can mean the tires don’t grip as well there or the car feels lighter and easier to upset.
“Light part on the track” likely refers to a section of the racing surface where the car feels less loaded—often meaning less grip or less aerodynamic/weight support at that moment. Drivers and analysts use this kind of language to describe how the car’s balance changes across different track zones.
Bubba was already loose
"[1502.3s] That's a light part on the track. [1504.2s] Easy to turn someone, get them squarely and Bubba was already loose. [1506.9s] So it's just, it's just happened."
“Loose” means the car is sliding around more than it should, especially in the rear. If it’s already loose, it’s easier for someone else to make it spin or lose control.
“Loose” describes a handling condition where the car’s rear end is less stable and tends to slide outward in the turn. If a car is already loose, it’s easier for another car to upset it further—leading to spins or contact.
turn someone
"[1502.3s] That's a light part on the track. [1504.2s] Easy to turn someone, get them squarely and Bubba was already loose. [1506.9s] So it's just, it's just happened."
“Turn someone” means making another car spin or rotate so it can’t keep going straight through the corner. It usually happens when the car gets pushed or loses grip.
“Turn someone” means forcing another car to rotate—usually by affecting its traction and balance—so it points away from its intended direction. In NASCAR, this often happens through contact, drafting pressure, or entering a corner with the other car already unstable.
goes backwards
"[1513.1s] If you watch the replay too, though, when he goes backwards, that car wants to go [1518.4s] up like the back wheels did get off the ground a bit and then went right back [1521.9s] down."
“Goes backwards” means the car spins around during the crash and ends up facing or moving the other way. It usually happens when the tires lose grip and the car rotates.
“Goes backwards” describes a car rotating into a reverse direction during a crash—often meaning the car spins and ends up traveling the opposite way. This kind of rotation can be driven by traction loss and the way the car’s momentum and contact forces act at impact.
replay
"[1513.1s] If you watch the replay too, though, when he goes backwards, that car wants to go [1518.4s] up like the back wheels did get off the ground a bit and then went right back [1521.9s] down."
They’re talking about reviewing the video replay of the crash. That lets them see exactly what the car was doing—like whether it got sideways or bounced after hitting something.
They’re referring to watching the on-screen replay to analyze what the car did during the crash. In NASCAR coverage, replays help identify vehicle behavior like loss of traction, rotation, and how the car settles after impacts.
Fox
"[1527.7s] this topic a little bit. [1530.9s] Fox didn't talk really anything analytical at all. [1533.9s] Like the entire day was basically Mike joy, making some kind of gap on somebody's [1538.3s] name or some kind of fact."
Fox is the TV network that broadcasts NASCAR. They’re saying Fox didn’t explain the racing as analytically as they wanted.
Fox refers to Fox Sports’ NASCAR broadcast coverage. The hosts are critiquing how the network presented analysis versus commentary, which affects how viewers understand what’s happening on track.
green flag racing
"[1594.6s] I guess we got to go to commercial now. [1596.8s] Let's have it full screen over green flag racing. [1599.2s] But you know what they want to see side by side?"
Green flag racing is when the race is “on” and cars can drive fast and compete normally. During caution, they slow down and don’t race as hard.
“Green flag racing” means the race is under normal racing conditions, with the green flag indicating the track is clear enough for cars to race at full speed. It’s the opposite of caution periods, when drivers slow down and follow the pace car.
side by side
"[1599.2s] But you know what they want to see side by side? [1601.3s] Them riding around for five laps under caution at Talladega. [1604.5s] That's what they want to see."
“Side by side” is a TV camera layout that shows two views at once. It’s used to help you compare what two cars are doing at the same time.
“Side by side” describes a broadcast layout that shows two cars (or two on-track battles) simultaneously. In NASCAR coverage, it’s often used to highlight head-to-head comparisons during key moments like cautions or restarts.
caution
"[1599.2s] But you know what they want to see side by side? [1601.3s] Them riding around for five laps under caution at Talladega. [1604.5s] That's what they want to see."
A caution is when something happened on the track, so everyone slows down. Cars usually follow a pace car until it’s safe to race again.
A “caution” is when NASCAR slows the field because of an incident on track (like debris or a crash). Drivers typically bunch up and follow the pace car until the track is cleared and racing resumes.
full screen breaks
"[1604.5s] That's what they want to see. [1606.6s] I don't know what in their contract it, if it's a contractual thing that [1609.9s] determines when those full screen breaks have to be, but they certainly [1612.8s] chose poorly on this one."
A “full screen break” is when the broadcast stops showing the live race and switches to something else, like commercials. When it happens matters because it can cut away from the most exciting moments.
“Full screen breaks” refers to broadcast cut-ins where the TV feed switches to a full-screen interruption (often commercials or studio content) rather than showing live track action. In racing broadcasts, these timing choices can affect what viewers see—like whether they miss a restart or a crash.
26 cars wreck
"But I think the biggest offense arguably was the big one happens. 26 cars wreck. They show one replay."
A “wreck” is a crash. When it involves a lot of cars, it can happen fast because the cars are close together, and it’s often hard to tell exactly what started it.
A “wreck” involving many cars is a multi-car crash, which in NASCAR can quickly spread because cars are running close together and braking/steering inputs are synchronized. When the broadcast shows only limited replay, it can be hard to determine who caused the initial contact and who suffered the worst damage.
red flag
"Like I'd wait and like the restart was finally happening. It was after the red flag."
A “red flag” means the race is stopped completely. Officials pause everything to make the track safe and then decide when it can restart.
A “red flag” is a full stop of the race due to a serious on-track situation, such as a major wreck or unsafe conditions. NASCAR pauses the event so officials can clear the track and assess damage before allowing a restart.
stage one
"I mean, the part that honestly pissed me off the most was at the end of stage one, the top eight cross the line. And I'm trying to take notes of like who's finishing where in the stage..."
NASCAR races are divided into sections called stages. At the end of each stage, drivers earn points based on their position, which affects the overall race standings.
In NASCAR, a race is split into stages (Stage 1, Stage 2, etc.). Drivers earn points based on where they finish within each stage, so “end of stage one” is a key moment for strategy and standings.
battle for ninth
"...they show the battle for ninth or ninth and 10th in there. Yeah. They cut away to show a car..."
When they say “battle for ninth,” they mean drivers are racing hard to finish around 9th place. That position can still affect points and the rest of the race.
“Battle for ninth” refers to the on-track fight for a specific finishing position—in this case, positions around 9th place. In NASCAR, those spots can matter because they influence stage points and how drivers line up for the next segment.
DD12
"That was the point that I muted the broadcast on my TV and I booted up DD12 because I'm like, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done."
“DD12” sounds like an app or streaming option the host uses to watch the race differently. They switched because the TV broadcast kept cutting away for commercials.
“DD12” appears to be a streaming/app or viewing option the speaker uses instead of the broadcast. In NASCAR coverage, fans often switch to alternate feeds to avoid commercials or get more direct race viewing.
rapid fire post-race interviews
"I do like the rapid fire post-race interviews where they interview like four or five drivers back to back to back to back."
They like when the broadcast interviews multiple drivers right after the race, one after another, quickly.
“Rapid fire post-race interviews” describes a broadcast style where several drivers are interviewed back-to-back in quick succession. It’s a production choice that can change how much context viewers get from each driver’s answers.
pit reporters
"That's a good point. I like their pit reporters."
Pit reporters are people at the track who give updates from the pit area while the race is going on.
“Pit reporters” are journalists stationed in the pit area who provide live updates during a race—such as strategy changes, pit stop timing, and driver/team reactions. Their reporting can strongly affect how viewers understand what’s happening on track.
chase
"Denny Hamlin. Second. And everyone else is, uh, well, well, they might have more of a chance to reset in the chase."
The Chase is NASCAR’s playoff system. Drivers who qualify get a chance to fight for the championship in the final part of the season.
The “Chase” refers to NASCAR’s playoff-style championship format, where the top drivers advance into a final stretch to compete for the title. Points and eligibility reset/adjust as the season moves into the Chase.
Kansas
"Well, he finished like seventh or eighth at Kansas, I think, or yeah, Kansas a couple of weeks ago, but that was because they put tires on at the end and drove from like 17th to whatever it was in the final few laps."
They’re talking about a NASCAR race at Kansas Speedway. Different tracks make cars behave differently, especially with tire grip and how fast you can gain positions.
Kansas refers to the NASCAR race at Kansas Speedway. Track layout and surface can strongly affect tire wear and how quickly a car can move through the field.
put tires on
"Kansas a couple of weeks ago, but that was because they put tires on at the end and drove from like 17th to whatever it was in the final few laps."
That means the team stopped to change the tires. Fresh tires can give the car better traction, which helps the driver catch up late in the race.
“Put tires on” is shorthand for a pit stop where the team changes tires. In NASCAR, late-race tire changes can dramatically improve grip and help a driver surge forward in the final laps.
Hendrick
"So yeah, I mean, they've fallen outside the top 10. Hendrick only has two cars in the top 10 and points right now."
They mean Hendrick Motorsports, a major NASCAR racing team. They’re saying how many of their cars are doing well right now.
“Hendrick” refers to Hendrick Motorsports, one of NASCAR’s most prominent teams. The comment about how many cars are in the top 10 is about team performance across its multiple entries.
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