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New Nissan Xterra VS Scout Traveler VS Ford Bronco VS Jeep Wrangler! | Ep. 335

New Nissan Xterra VS Scout Traveler VS Ford Bronco VS Jeep Wrangler! | Ep. 335

TFL Car Chat Apr 27, 2026 63 min
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About this episode

Nissan’s confirmed return of the new Xterra sparks a deep dive into why the last one died—CAFE fuel-economy categories and an aging, inefficient platform—plus what Nissan must nail to make it competitive again (35-inch capability, body-on-frame authenticity, reliability, and a sub-$40k target). The guys then weigh the Hyundai Boulder concept, the delayed electric-first Scout Traveler, and rumors of a new GM Jimmy and next-gen Wrangler/Bronco. Expect lots of debate about timing, electrification, and whether concepts will survive production reality.

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Concept

lockers

"...I mean like lockers, plenty of ground clearance, rolling on 35 off-roaders. And so in this podcast, let's talk about them."

Lockers are traction helpers for off-roading. They make sure both wheels on an axle spin together, so if one wheel slips, the other can still keep moving the truck.

Term

35 off-roaders

"...lockers, plenty of ground clearance, rolling on 35 off-roaders. And so in this podcast, let's talk about them."

“35 off-roaders” refers to 35-inch off-road tires, a common size target for serious trail rigs. Larger tires can improve obstacle clearance and traction, but they also affect gearing, ride quality, and steering effort.

Term

ground clearance

"...like lockers, plenty of ground clearance, rolling on 35 off-roaders. And so in this podcast, let's talk about them."

Ground clearance is how high the truck sits off the ground. The higher it is, the less likely you are to hit the bottom on bumps and rocks.

Concept

10 year product cycles

"...I mean that vehicle is going to be 10 years old in 2028 and they have 10 year product cycles on Wrangler, 2008 to 2018 and then 2018 to 2028."

A product cycle is how long a car generation usually stays on the market before it gets replaced. They’re using Wrangler’s history to guess when the next one might show up.

Car

Boulder Hyundai Boulder

"... So that's four. And then I forgot the fifth one. Hyundai Boulder. Yeah, that's right. The new Hyundai Boulder. Th..."

The “Boulder” is a new vehicle name mentioned for Hyundai. The podcast talks about it as part of a group of cars being compared or counted. It’s included because it’s a new model that could matter to buyers.

Term

facelift

"Well, there's a facelift coming because the last news I read was they're not facelifting it... So they're just going to be a brand new one."

A facelift is when a car gets updated during its model run—usually styling changes and maybe some new features. The hosts are wondering if the Bronco will get that kind of update or a whole new generation.

Term

front end of the upcoming XTERRA

"...And this is the front end of the upcoming XTERRA. Now, if you're not watching this live, what we're looking at here is a bright yellow concept shot in the rain."

They’re focusing on the front of the next Xterra and describing the styling details. It’s a way to talk about how the new model might look before it’s officially revealed.

Term

front fascia

"...this was from Nissan... And this is the front end of the upcoming XTERRA... It's just the front fascia and you got this kind of line of lights..."

The front fascia is basically the car’s front “face”—the main styling pieces you see up close, like the grille and headlight area. The hosts are pointing out what the new Xterra’s front might look like.

Term

concept shot

"...what we're looking at here is a bright yellow concept shot in the rain. It's just the front fascia..."

A concept shot is a preview image that shows an idea of what a car could look like. It doesn’t always match the final production version exactly.

Car

Nissan Pathfinder

"...with the three marker lights. Very similar to, for example, the original Nissan Pathfinder..."

The Nissan Pathfinder is another Nissan SUV. The hosts mention it because the new Xterra’s front lighting and shape remind them of an older Pathfinder look.

Term

power dome

"...and then a very sculpted out hood with a bit of a power dome in the middle."

A power dome is a raised “bump” on the hood. It can look aggressive and sometimes helps with airflow or space under the hood.

Car

Toyota 4Runner

"They basically got out of the market, left the market to the Toyota 4Runner just when overlanding and offroading was becoming red hot."

The Toyota 4Runner is a rugged SUV that many people use for off-roading and long trips. The hosts say it became more popular when Nissan wasn’t selling the Xterra anymore.

Concept

overlanding

"...left the market to the Toyota 4Runner just when overlanding and offroading was becoming red hot."

Overlanding means taking long trips, often to remote places, and being prepared to drive off-road and handle basic needs without much help. The hosts say this lifestyle trend made off-road SUVs more popular.

Concept

CAFE rules

"his answer was because of the new legislation that basically de-teeths, de-fangs the new CAFE rules, which allows Nissan to start building body on frame trucks, off-roaders... Do you know why it died in the first place?... It is because of CAFE."

CAFE rules are government standards that push car companies to make their overall lineup get better gas mileage. If the rules change, it can make it easier (or harder) for companies to sell less-efficient trucks and SUVs.

Concept

body on frame

"...new legislation that basically de-teeths, de-fangs the new CAFE rules, which allows Nissan to start building body on frame trucks, off-roaders without having to have more leaves and more arias..."

Body-on-frame is a construction method where the vehicle’s body mounts to a separate ladder frame. It’s common on traditional off-roaders and trucks because it can handle rough use well, but it often comes with higher weight and lower fuel economy than unibody designs.

Car

Nissan Xterra

"...he gave me the lowdown as to why they killed the XTERRA... And what happened was... the CAFE numbers... de-incentivize the smaller vehicles... the problem with the XTERRA is it had a much shorter wheelbase..."

The Nissan Xterra is an off-road SUV that the podcast says got discontinued. The reason wasn’t just sales—it was also because fuel-economy rules made it hard for Nissan to keep it profitable.

Concept

CAFE category / bucket

"...the CAFE numbers... de-incentivize the smaller vehicles and those with shorter wheelbases. And the problem with the XTERRA is it had a much shorter wheelbase... Therefore, it fell in a different CAFE... category or bucket."

CAFE rules don’t treat every vehicle the same. Smaller or differently sized vehicles can fall into a category with tougher fuel-economy expectations, which can affect whether a model stays on sale.

Car

Toyota Prius

"...they didn't have, at the time, of course, like a Prius that could offset those numbers. Well, they, they didn't."

The Toyota Prius is a well-known fuel-sipper. The podcast brings it up to explain that some very efficient cars can help a company meet fuel-economy rules when other cars don’t.

Car

Nissan Leaf

"...they didn't have, at the time, of course, like a Prius that could offset those numbers. Well, they, they didn't. They had a leaf, which came out in 10, 11."

The Nissan Leaf is Nissan’s electric car. The podcast uses it as an example of how having very efficient vehicles can help a company meet fuel-economy rules when other models are less efficient.

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aftermarket

"...it was especially unfortunate because there was like an aftermarket that was starting to build around the XTERRA. Our local Nissan dealership here was big into that."

The aftermarket is the community of companies that make replacement parts and upgrades for a specific car. The hosts say people were starting to build support for the Xterra, so killing it hurt that momentum.

Car

Toyota FJ Cruiser

"Same era. We were there. I know we were there. Same era as the FJ Cruiser."

The Toyota FJ Cruiser was a popular off-road SUV from the mid-2000s. They mention it to remind you what the off-road market looked like back then.

Concept

a frontier without a bed

"So I'm going to simplify this because I'm sure it's a lot more complicated than this, but in essence, an XTERRA is a frontier without a bed. Sure, but in the same way. Same powertrain, same suspension, you know, same chassis."

They’re basically saying the Xterra is like Nissan’s Frontier pickup, but turned into an SUV instead of a truck with a bed. The idea is that it keeps the rugged, off-road-friendly basics.

Concept

same powertrain, same suspension, you know, same chassis

"So I'm going to simplify this because I'm sure it's a lot more complicated than this, but in essence, an XTERRA is a frontier without a bed. Sure, but in the same way. Same powertrain, same suspension, you know, same chassis."

They’re saying the Xterra and the Frontier use very similar core mechanical parts. That can make the SUV feel and behave a lot like the pickup, especially for rough roads.

Car

Titan

"...instead of putting all that money into the Titan for them to also introduce a new XTERRA, which unfortunately they did not."

The Nissan Titan is Nissan’s larger pickup truck. They’re saying Nissan spent money on the Titan instead of making a new Xterra at the time.

Concept

trimming their worldwide product line by a lot

"...one of the things that they have said is that they are trimming their worldwide product line by a lot. So they're they're focusing on their core vehicles."

This is basically Nissan saying they’re going to sell fewer different models worldwide. The goal is to focus money and effort on the vehicles that matter most.

Concept

speeding up the amount of time it takes them to develop a vehicle by about 30%

"The other thing they're doing is they're speeding up the amount of time it takes them to develop a vehicle by about 30%. This is what they said. So instead of taking five years, it's going to take"

They’re saying Nissan wants to build new cars faster—about 30% quicker than before. That can help them react to what buyers want and get new models to market sooner.

Car

Jeep Wrangler

"People are kind of getting bored of Wranglers and forerunners and Broncos. And they'd be, you know, right at the sweet spot of when the market is looking for something fresh and interesting and different."

The Jeep Wrangler is a popular off-road SUV. In the conversation, it’s used as an example of a vehicle that many people already know well, so the hosts think buyers may want a new option.

Company

Mitsubishi

"It's actually going to be developed in partnership with Mitsubishi. So Mitsubishi has a small youth that they sell around the world, right? And that next generation of truck is going to be co-developed with Nissan."

Mitsubishi is another car company. In this discussion, they’re being talked about as a partner that helps Nissan build a new truck platform, which can affect timelines for other vehicles too.

Concept

product cycles for development have gotten longer

"Let's take like, let's go 30,000 feet in the air right now and look down at what's happening in the market in general. What's happening is because of COVID, because of chip shortages, because of tariffs, the product cycles for development have gotten longer, not shorter."

A “product cycle” is how long it takes a company to go from planning a new vehicle to actually selling it. The hosts say recent supply-chain problems and trade issues have stretched those timelines, so new cars arrive later than planned.

Concept

chip shortages

"What's happening is because of COVID, because of chip shortages, because of tariffs, the product cycles for development have gotten longer, not shorter."

Modern cars need computer chips to run many systems. If chip supplies are limited, carmakers can’t produce vehicles on schedule, so new models and updates get delayed.

Concept

tariffs

"What's happening is because of COVID, because of chip shortages, because of tariffs, the product cycles for development have gotten longer, not shorter."

Tariffs are extra taxes on imported products. If car parts cost more because of tariffs, it can slow down production and make new vehicles arrive later.

Concept

right offs

"And what we're seeing is manufacturers pulling back because they're taking these huge right offs. They're of course blaming electric cars, which is to me seems like an easy scapegoat, right?"

A “write-off” is when a company has to admit some planned spending or inventory isn’t going to pay off as expected. The hosts are saying these financial hits are part of why automakers are slowing down.

Term

packages and trim lines

"...they've got 12 different, like they're not models, they're there like packages and trim lines to breathe a little bit of excitement into the Wrangler lineup."

Packages and trim lines are ways automakers differentiate a vehicle without redesigning the whole platform. Packages bundle features (like off-road equipment or tech), while trim lines define equipment levels and sometimes different powertrain or interior options.

Concept

shared componentry

"...one of the reasons they're doing that is because they do a lot of shared componentry, which our manufacturers don't do."

Shared componentry is when different cars use the same parts. That can make it quicker and cheaper to build new models.

Car

Rivian R2

"...Rivian has done the same thing, right? Instead of doing the R three, right, the off-roader, they've come out with the R two."

Rivian’s R2 is an upcoming/introduced electric SUV that’s meant to be a more attainable option. The point being made is that building a new car—especially an off-road one—is really hard, even for fast-moving brands.

Concept

developing a new car

"...what we're discounting is how unbelievably difficult it is to develop a new car. You know, if you figure a car has well over a thousand parts in it, and those are a thousand parts that are manufactured across many different suppliers..."

Making a brand-new car is hard because it’s not just one thing—you need tons of parts to work together. And those parts come from many different companies, so everything has to be timed correctly.

Concept

platform sharing

"a lot of the vehicles in China are all kind of the same car underneath. Yeah. So that saves a lot of time, though dad."

Some car companies build several models on the same basic “skeleton.” That means they don’t have to design everything from scratch for every model, which can lower cost and speed up development.

Term

1.5 liter engine

"the stuff you don't see in a Chinese car is the same like all those Chinese cars that are hybrids, they all have the same 1.5 liter engine."

Engine size is measured in liters, and 1.5 liters is a fairly common size for everyday cars. If many cars use the same engine size, it can be easier and cheaper for the company to build and maintain them.

Term

Bosch

"they don't have to go to like Bosch and different suppliers and say, Hey, we need this part specifically for this car"

Bosch is a company that makes car parts for many different brands. The idea here is that some automakers can use common supplier parts instead of designing unique ones.

Concept

labor cost differences affecting car development

"cost of building a car is much cheaper in China, because of labor costs... it's impossible to hire America for under $20,000..."

Making a car costs money, and a big part of that is paying workers. If labor is cheaper in one country, it can make it easier for companies to build cars for less money there.

Concept

Euro NCAP and NHTSA crash test standards

"You know, their crash test standards were far less than what we experienced in Euro NCAP and NHTSA, right? So it was perhaps easier also to develop a new model."

These are crash-safety testing programs. They put cars through standardized crash tests and score how well they protect people, so automakers have to design and prove safety to meet those rules.

Concept

Chinese automaker cars not sold in the US (yet)

"So I just don't know if they're necessarily comparable because, and especially because those cars aren't sold in the US. Yeah, not yet."

When a vehicle isn’t sold in the US yet, it often means it hasn’t been certified to US regulations and safety standards. That can limit direct comparisons because the car may be a different spec or may not have gone through the same compliance process.

Topic

Detroit Auto Show

"So it will be 2012. We were at the Detroit Auto Show and there was a Chinese automaker at the Chinese Auto Show."

The Detroit Auto Show (historically a major US venue for automakers) is referenced here as the place where the hosts saw a Chinese automaker’s presence. It highlights how global brands try to build awareness in the US market.

Topic

Chinese Auto Show

"We were at the Detroit Auto Show and there was a Chinese automaker at the Chinese Auto Show. And I remember in 2012, you told me, give it two years of these cars will be here."

This is a major auto event in China where car companies display their newest models. The hosts bring it up to set the timeline for how those cars later appeared in the US.

Brand

Chrysler

"At some point, the reality of the situation is that I think this administration would probably be happy if, let's say, Chrysler decided that they're only selling one car and they have a factory that's idle right now, just sell that to the Chinese or sell the brand to the Chinese..."

Chrysler is a US car company. The discussion uses it as an example of how a company might respond to pressure by selling fewer models or partnering with another market.

Brand

Lucid

"[1083.2s] afford, they're building the very expensive car that nobody can afford. Which makes sense. Be that [1087.7s] Tesla, be that Lucid, be that Rivian. It's easier to make money selling expensive cars."

Lucid is another electric-car company. In this conversation, it’s used as an example of a brand that makes pricier EVs rather than cheaper ones.

Brand

Tesla

"[1083.2s] afford, they're building the very expensive car that nobody can afford. Which makes sense. Be that [1087.7s] Tesla, be that Lucid, be that Rivian. It's easier to make money selling expensive cars."

Tesla is one of the best-known EV makers. The point here is that it’s often easier for a company to make money on pricier cars than on cheaper ones.

Concept

profit margins

"[1097.9s] No, I think people are especially now with the way the economy is going. I think there's a huge [1101.7s] opening there to actually start selling affordable cars. That's why right now used cars are having [1106.9s] a moment because people can't afford new cars. I'm not saying they wouldn't sell. I'm just saying [1110.2s] from a manufacturer standpoint, the profit margins on a million dollar car versus the profit margins [1115.1s] on a twenty thousand dollar car."

Profit margin is how much money a company keeps from each sale after costs. The point here is that a high-priced car can be easier to profit from, which is why some companies focus on expensive EVs.

Concept

assembly line

"[1121.2s] but you make a lot more money on the expense of those economics were the same in the 1910s when [1126.3s] Ford came out with the Model T was much cheaper to develop cars than no. No, I mean, it was the same [1131.3s] problem except that he came out with an innovative thing called the assembly line to make a cheaper [1136.3s] and the Chinese have come with an innovative thing basically part sharing."

An assembly line is a factory process where workers and machines build a car step-by-step in a set order. It helps companies build cars faster and cheaper, which is why it mattered for making the Model T affordable.

Concept

part sharing

"[1136.3s] and the Chinese have come with an innovative thing basically part sharing. So so I'm saying, [1141.4s] yeah, you could you could come up with excuses all day long while you can't do it. But at the [1145.0s] end of the day still leaves you in bankruptcy court."

Part sharing is when different car models use the same parts. That can lower costs because the company doesn’t have to design and build everything from scratch for every model.

Concept

cutting production time

"[1150.0s] you can't keep doing business the same way it was done five years ago. You got to start to [1155.1s] change the way that you're doing it. And what Nissan said was we're doing that. We're cutting [1158.6s] our production time. We're, you know, taking 30% out. We're concentrating on core models. I'm just"

Cutting production time means building cars faster in the factory. The goal is usually to reduce waste and cost so the company can sell cars more competitively.

Term

price point under $40,000

"...they also said that they want to target the price point under $40,000, which would be massively successful."

They’re talking about keeping the vehicle’s starting price below $40,000. That matters because many people have a hard budget limit, and crossing it can dramatically reduce sales.

Term

big tires

"...So 33s or 32s aren't going to cut it. You're going to you're going to agree that's kind of the new standard that 35 is a new 33. So you're going to have to have big tires."

Bigger tires help an off-road SUV get over rough ground and can provide better grip. They’re saying that buyers now expect larger tire sizes as part of the “real off-road” package.

Term

special shock absorber

"You're also going to have to have some kind of a special shock absorber, I think. So be it King, Fox, whatever, but it's got to be branded and it's got to be different."

Shocks help control how the wheels move when you hit bumps. For off-roading, you usually want shocks that are built and tuned for rough roads, not just for smooth pavement.

Company

Roush

"And they've kind of taken the step toward that already with their partnership with Roush with the new frontier. Sure. The problem with the Roush frontier is that there's no more horsepower."

Roush is a company that works on performance and special vehicle packages. They’re saying Nissan’s Roush-linked off-road version looks promising, but it may not add the power people want.

Term

naturally aspirated V6

"Now, what folks are saying is the new front, the new exterior is going to have two engines. It's going to have a naturally aspirated V6 and a hybrid V6."

A naturally aspirated V6 is an engine that makes power without a turbo. The idea is that it can be simpler and easier to live with, which some buyers prefer.

Term

hybrid V6

"...It's going to have a naturally aspirated V6 and a hybrid V6."

A hybrid V6 uses both a gas engine and an electric motor. The goal is usually better efficiency and smoother power, especially at low speeds.

Term

four wheel drive

"...it really needs to have to is that authentic authenticity as to what a four wheel drive is."

Four wheel drive means power can go to all four wheels, which helps on dirt, snow, or rough trails. They’re saying Nissan needs to make the truck feel genuinely capable, not just look the part.

Term

low range

"[1302.1s] threshold by saying its body on frame. So I think you need to have a low range. And then in terms [1307.1s] of design, I'm one of the greatest things that the old exterior brought to the table was that"

Low range is a gear mode that makes the vehicle move slower but with more pulling power. It helps when you’re going up steep hills, crawling over rocks, or driving on slippery ground. It’s the kind of feature off-roaders rely on for control.

Term

buttons and toggles

"[1312.7s] stadium seating. So I think they're going to have to have stadium seating. I think you need more [1316.9s] buttons and toggles and less screens. Yeah, I agree."

Buttons and toggles are the physical knobs and switches you can use without hunting through menus. Off-road, that matters because you might be wearing gloves or your hands are busy. Screens can be harder to use when you’re focused on driving.

Term

real door handles

"[1316.9s] buttons and toggles and less screens. Yeah, I agree. I also think you need real door handles. I [1323.3s] think you need vents that you can operate with your hands that with, you know, a swipe on the"

Real door handles means normal, physical handles you grab to open the door. Some newer cars use touch or electronic systems instead, which can feel less direct. The hosts prefer the traditional approach for reliability and ease of use.

Term

CVT

"[1336.7s] of Nissan. There are a couple of things that are Nissan DNA, right? First and foremost is reliability, [1342.3s] which they kind of lost when they introduced the CVT and they kept doubling down on it"

CVT is a type of automatic transmission that can smoothly change ratios instead of shifting gears like a traditional automatic. Some people like how it feels, but it can also be a concern if a brand’s CVTs have had reliability problems. The hosts are saying Nissan’s CVT reputation affected how trustworthy the brand felt.

Car

Toyota Crown

"...happened is that the Koreans have taken that that crown away from Nissan because Nissan was always a Jap..."

The Toyota Crown is a car name used by Toyota for more upscale models. The podcast mentions it while talking about which brands are leading in a certain category. It’s included because it represents that “top” position in the discussion.

Concept

King of the Hammers

"[1373.0s] cred. So they're going to have to somehow show whether it's doing a King of the Hammers version [1378.8s] or I was thinking about this, you know, how we just came back from the Easter Jeep Safari."

King of the Hammers is a famous off-road race in the desert that’s known for extreme rock crawling and high-speed desert sections. When the hosts reference it, they’re saying Nissan needs to prove serious off-road credibility, not just look the part. It’s a benchmark event for hardcore capability.

Topic

Easter Jeep Safari

"[1378.8s] or I was thinking about this, you know, how we just came back from the Easter Jeep Safari. [1384.5s] There's a lot of other things you can do outside of like one of the things that was always weird to me"

Easter Jeep Safari is a big off-road gathering in Moab, Utah, around Easter. Jeep uses it to show off special off-road vehicles and attract attention. The hosts are using it as an example of how one brand can dominate the spotlight in a specific place.

Term

Moab

"[1384.5s] There's a lot of other things you can do outside of like one of the things that was always weird to [1389.2s] me is that the Bronco kind of stepped on cheap's party because they were doing all this activation [1400.7s] someone else's party. There are a lot of off road events off roady trails that you could [1413.0s] hang the exterior around that isn't Jeep based."

Moab is a famous off-road area in Utah with lots of trails and desert terrain. Many off-road brands and events happen there, so it becomes a “center of gravity” for off-road credibility. The hosts are saying you don’t have to always chase Moab to have real adventures.

Car

Wrangler Rubicon

"... just get away from Moab. You know how Jeep has a Rubicon trail, pick a different trail, pick a different ..."

The Wrangler is the Jeep SUV that’s built for off-road trails. The podcast talks about picking different trails to drive on, which is part of how people use Wranglers. It’s mentioned because it’s strongly tied to that kind of driving.

Term

Rubicon trail

"[1413.0s] There are other places in the country that provide similar things. They do have a Nissan off road [1417.6s] event. Yeah, yeah. What's that? I don't know what's called, but it is in Moab. Yeah, but I'm just [1422.0s] saying just get away from Moab. You know how Jeep has a Rubicon trail, pick a different trail,"

The Rubicon Trail is a well-known off-road route in California associated with Jeep’s off-road reputation, especially the Wrangler Rubicon. When the hosts say “how Jeep has a Rubicon trail, pick a different trail,” they’re emphasizing that off-road credibility comes from specific, recognized routes—not just marketing. It’s a discussion of brand storytelling through trail choice.

Topic

Grenadier Gathering

"I mean, cruise Moab, you've got Easter Jeep Safari, you've got the Grenadier Gathering, you've got the solely whole society does their event in Moab."

The “Grenadier Gathering” is referenced as another Moab event, used here to show that multiple off-road communities converge on the same destination. It highlights the broader trend of brand/owner events driving engagement.

Term

Extero

"I think the color is good. I think if you look at the design, Extero has always had, especially with that stadium seating, has always had kind of a unique shape."

“Extero” sounds like it’s referring to the Nissan Xterra. They’re talking about how the Xterra looks and how it’s usually priced to be more affordable than some competitors.

Term

stadium seating

"I think if you look at the design, Extero has always had, especially with that stadium seating, has always had kind of a unique shape."

“Stadium seating” describes an upright seating position and higher hip point that gives drivers and passengers a commanding view over the road. On off-road SUVs, it’s often used to improve visibility and make the cabin feel more spacious.

Car

Nissan Frontier

"How about manual? Does it need a manual before we move on? No. Can you get a manual on the frontier? No."

The Nissan Frontier is Nissan’s midsize pickup, and the hosts specifically say you can’t get it with a manual transmission. That’s used to support the broader point that manuals are becoming rare in this segment.

Term

manual transmission

"How about manual? Does it need a manual before we move on? No... off-road manuals are just not as good as automatics."

A manual transmission means you shift gears yourself with a clutch pedal. The hosts are saying that while manuals are fun, they can be tiring or less ideal for off-roading compared with automatics.

Car

Toyota Tacoma

"I mean, like everyone loves the manual in the Tacoma, but I think I was reading that the sales numbers on them are just abysmally tiny."

The Toyota Tacoma is a popular midsize truck. They’re saying manuals are loved by some people, but the data suggests very few buyers actually choose them.

Car

Jeep Gladiator

"They are bringing it back, though, in the Gladiator. And you can get the Bronco in a manual."

The Jeep Gladiator is a Jeep pickup that offers a manual transmission option (as mentioned here), which the hosts call out as a notable exception. It’s used to illustrate that manuals still exist in the off-road world, but are limited to certain models.

Term

dual clutch gearbox

"the same thing about like a flappy paddle, dual clutch gearbox is better on track than it is on than it is as a manual because you have less to think about. But the fact is, on-road, a manual is more engaging."

A dual-clutch gearbox is an automatic that shifts gears very fast. It uses two clutches so it can be ready for the next gear ahead of time, which can feel great on a track but may not feel as “hands-on” as a manual.

Term

flappy paddle

"the same thing about like a flappy paddle, dual clutch gearbox is better on track than it is on"

Flappy paddles are the little shift buttons on the steering wheel. They let you tell the car when to change gears, even if the car is technically an automatic.

Car

Hyundai Boulder

"So I want to talk about the newest entrant here, which is very interesting indeed. That's the Hyundai Boulder. So this car was revealed as a concept in New York, but it is hinted that they are going to put this into production."

The Hyundai Boulder is a concept SUV Hyundai showed off, and it sounds like it could become a real vehicle. People are debating its looks because it resembles other rugged, boxy off-road SUVs.

Car

Land Rover Defender

"...ying it looks a little Bronco. It looks a little Defender. You know what it looks like. Cole, if you can Go..."

The Land Rover Defender is an SUV built to handle rough terrain. The podcast mentions it when talking about how some newer off-road SUVs look similar. It’s known for having a strong off-road look and purpose.

Car

Hyundai Santa Cruz

"So let's talk about this. So I hope they've learned the lesson. Hyundai has just announced that they're killing the Santa Cruz, which is their compact pickup truck."

The Hyundai Santa Cruz is a small pickup truck. The hosts say Hyundai is ending it, and they’re using that as an example of what Hyundai learned (or should learn) about making trucks.

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Ford Maverick

"Yeah, and I hope that they've learned the lesson in that lesson being that Ford built the compact pickup truck called the Maverick. And if you make a pickup truck, make a truckie, not"

The Ford Maverick is a compact pickup that Ford made and it’s being held up as the better example. The hosts are basically saying that if you make a pickup, it needs to be the kind of pickup people actually want.

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37s

"...I think these are 37s, minimum 35, if I remember right, solid or axle body on frame. So it's already the formula as well beyond what the Santa Cruz or any XRT model has ever been."

“37s” means very large off-road tires (about 37 inches tall). Bigger tires can help the truck clear obstacles, but they’re also heavier and can be harder/expensive to run.

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solid axle

"...I think these are 37s, minimum 35, if I remember right, solid or axle body on frame. So it's already the formula as well..."

Solid axle means the wheels are connected by a rigid bar, so one wheel can move while the other stays supported. That can help the vehicle keep traction on uneven rocks or ruts.

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approach angle

"You look at the design, it looks like they've thought about approach angle, they've thought about departure angle, right?"

Approach angle is how well the front of the vehicle can “get up to” a hill or obstacle without scraping. Bigger approach angle usually means fewer front-end hits off-road.

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departure angle

"...they've thought about approach angle, they've thought about departure angle, right?"

Departure angle is how well the back of the vehicle can come down off a bump or ledge without scraping. Better departure angle means fewer rear-end hits off-road.

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recovery hooks

"...my, uh, my criticism of this design 37, yeah, is that I see a lot of like concept the vehicle... but never get, never get implemented when actually like, look at those recovery hooks, right?"

Recovery hooks are strong tie-down points on the vehicle for pulling it out when you get stuck. If they’re included from the factory, it usually means the vehicle is meant for serious off-roading.

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concept car

"So this feels to me like a concept that is just that a concept. Well, it's going to get severely toned down when it goes into production."

A concept car is a “preview” vehicle that automakers show to hint at what they might build next. The final production version can look similar, but it usually changes to meet rules and cost targets.

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Kia EV9

"... some of the key concepts. And if you look at the EV9 concept and the EV9 production car, basically id..."

The Kia EV9 is an electric SUV with three rows of seats. The podcast says the production version is very similar to the concept car that was shown earlier. It’s brought up because it’s designed to be practical for real family use.

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EV9 concept

"And if you look at the EV9 concept and the EV9 production car, basically identical."

The Hyundai EV9 is Hyundai’s electric family SUV. In this discussion, the “EV9 concept” is the earlier preview version, and the host is saying Hyundai often makes the real car look very similar.

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MPG

"...that'd be a nine MPG off-roader and that's not going to fly from either, you know, a corporate leadership role."

MPG means how many miles you can drive on one gallon of gas. Lower MPG usually means you’ll spend more money to drive the same distance.

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392

"...Jeep tried to go and build a Wrangler that was $120,000 when the 392 first came out with the AEV version."

“392” here is shorthand for a bigger, more powerful V8 engine option. Bigger engines usually cost more and can use more fuel.

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GMC Hummer EV

"I think Hummer tried it with the EV. It also didn't fly right. Right now the Hummer EVs are sitting on lots."

The Hummer EV is the electric version of the Hummer, built to be a big off-road truck. The point here is that it’s expensive, and that price can make it harder to sell.

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G-Class G Wagons

"...they can't keep luxury off-roader. They can't keep G wagons on the lot. But that's the G wagon is its own thing."

“G wagon” is what people call the Mercedes-Benz G-Class. It’s a luxury off-road SUV, and the host is saying it’s one of the few that still sells well because it has a loyal audience.

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Land Range Rovers

"And Range Rovers are selling really well too. Full-size Range Rovers, but they are off-roaders"

Range Rover is Land Rover’s luxury SUV. The host is saying that, unlike some other expensive off-roaders, Range Rovers are still selling well.

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UV

"Tad says, every manufacturer needs to develop a body on frame with UV. Well, it takes a huge amount of effort to develop a car."

“UV” here doesn’t sound like a normal car part or feature. The point the speaker is making is that regulations and rules can make it much harder and more expensive to design and build a vehicle.

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European standards / regulatory issues

"Market trend for those vehicles was self-evident over a decade ago. Well, first of all, that's not true because they're building cars in Europe and the Europeans are very strict when it comes to labor laws and regulatory issues."

They’re talking about rules that carmakers have to follow in Europe. Even if a car is built in another country, if it’s sold in Europe it still has to meet European requirements.

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range extender

"I love the fact that it's a range extender because they're having a moment right now. But yet the fundamental I think mistake that they made was they wanted to keep the frunk..."

A range extender is an auxiliary power source (often a small engine or generator) used to recharge the battery and extend driving range in an electric vehicle. It can be packaged in different locations, and where it sits affects weight distribution and available space for towing hardware and payload.

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frunk

"...the fundamental I think mistake that they made was they wanted to keep the frunk and in doing so... they stuck it under the bed..."

A frunk is a trunk in the front of the car. Here, they’re saying the designers wanted that front storage, so they placed the range-extender somewhere that makes towing harder.

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towing capacity

"...specifically having a vehicle that can tow because what ends up happening is when you put... that under the bed, you severely limit how much the vehicle can tow..."

Towing capacity is the maximum weight a vehicle can tow safely, determined by factors like payload limits, hitch/tongue weight limits, cooling, and suspension capability. In this segment, the hosts argue that relocating the range extender under the bed constrains payload/tongue weight, which directly reduces towing capacity.

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tongue weight

"...you severely limit how much the vehicle can tow because you limit payload and you limit tongue weight."

Tongue weight is the weight that presses down on the hitch from the trailer. If tongue weight is too high, the vehicle can feel unstable and may exceed its safe towing limits.

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payload

"...you severely limit how much the vehicle can tow because you limit payload and you limit tongue weight."

Payload is the maximum weight a vehicle can carry, including passengers, cargo, and often the tongue weight from a trailer. The hosts connect packaging and weight limits to towing performance: if payload is reduced, the vehicle can’t tow as much safely.

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rear axle

"no, it's in the back. It can't put it behind the rear axle... It limits tongue weight."

The rear axle is the part that connects the rear wheels and helps carry the vehicle’s weight. If something has to be placed in a way that can’t go behind it, it can limit how much you can tow.

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Scout Traveler

"And what you end up doing then is you end up severely limiting the amount of towing. And the problem is that the scout is a big vehicle. You saw it... I think they announced towing at 5000..."

The Scout Traveler is a new electric SUV they’re talking about. They’re debating how much it can tow, and how the “range extender” system (a small gas generator) changes the vehicle’s design so it can still do long trips.

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F 150

"This thing's like F 150 size... a vehicle that's the same size... as an F 150 can't tow 5000 pounds compared to an F 150 that tows at least 10,000."

The Ford F-150 is a common full-size truck people use as a reference point for towing. They’re comparing the electric SUV’s towing limits to what an F-150 can usually do.

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two years delayed

"they've now pretty much confirmed that it's going to be at first it was one year and now they're saying two years delayed."

When a car gets delayed by years, it usually means the company needs more time to fix problems or prepare production. Sometimes it’s because the engineering isn’t done yet, and sometimes it’s because they’re putting money into other projects first.

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Scott Kehoe

"And then basically Scott Kehoe who's the CEO who came from Audi kind of hedged and hard when there was a press day."

Scott Kehoe is referenced as the CEO who previously came from Audi, and he’s described as hedging during a press day. Leadership messaging often reflects uncertainty around technical readiness, timelines, and engineering difficulty.

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engineering that engine

"And now 2029 because they're having a really hard time engineering that engine. At least that's speculation."

If the engine development is taking longer, the whole car can’t be finished on time. The company has to test and refine the engine so it works reliably and meets regulations.

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build out of factory in one of the Carolinas

"And they've got they're hiring people. They're building out of factory in one of the Carolinas. I don't know if it's north or south Carolina, but they're really struggling with getting this thing to market."

Where the car is built matters because the factory has to be ready—workers, parts, and production lines all have to be in place. Delays can happen if the factory ramp-up takes longer than planned.

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mid rear engine cars

"Interesting. I mean, look, mid rear engine cars are not hard to do. We've done them for the past hundred years, but it's a truck, right?"

Putting the engine closer to the middle of the car can help the car feel more balanced when you drive. But it can be harder to design and build, especially if you’re trying to do it in a truck shape.

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Chevrolet Corvair

"Well, I mean, I mean, I the only one I could think of is the, uh, uh, what's the GM, uh, they did a little truck Corvair Corvair. That's the only one that I can think of where they stuck the engine in the back and that was anything but successful."

The Chevrolet Corvair is an older car that had its engine in the back. The point here is that putting an engine in the back is possible, but it doesn’t guarantee the car will work out well.

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engineering something, uh, when you're not actually selling anything

"it allows you to do issues. ... It's also the expense of it. You're also spending a lot of time engineering something, uh, when you're not actually selling anything."

Car companies have to spend money to design and test a new vehicle before it can be sold. If they’re not selling anything yet, that spending can hurt the budget, so delays happen when money or priorities shift.

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Volkswagen auto group

"From what I've heard, the reason it's, it's more delayed is, is, it allows you to do issues. The Volkswagen auto group is, is not doing as well as it has in the past."

Volkswagen’s company group owns multiple car brands. If the group’s money situation gets tighter, new projects—like the one they’re discussing—can get delayed because they have to focus on other, faster-selling cars first.

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Lucid Air

"...ve the ground again, let's go 30,000 feet in the air. First, Tesla came out, uh, and promised a lot an..."

The Lucid Air is an electric car in the luxury sedan category. The podcast brings it up when talking about big claims for EV performance and range. It’s part of the broader discussion about how EVs are measured and marketed.

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Volkswagen ID buzz

"And I'll give you an example of that. And the Volkswagen group is the one that really put their foot in their mouth on this one, the ID buzz, right? They rolled that thing out like six years ago."

They’re using the Volkswagen ID Buzz as a cautionary tale. The idea is that if a car is teased too early and takes too long to actually arrive, people lose interest and sales momentum can suffer.

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hype cycle / moment passed

"There was so much excitement. And by the time the vehicle actually came to market, there was no more buzz around the buzz, right? The moment had passed."

They’re describing what happens when a company builds excitement, but the car takes too long to show up. By the time it’s finally available, the public’s interest has moved on.

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Cyber's truck

"Cyber's truck was supposed to come out at what 39,000 came out at 120,000 for the Cyber beast."

They’re talking about Tesla’s Cybertruck. It was announced early, but the real release and pricing changed, and that can make people lose confidence and interest.

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Ford F-150 Lightning

"The F-150 Lightning was supposed to come out at 29 or 39. That held for like two and a half weeks. And then it went to 80,000."

This is Ford’s all-electric F-150 pickup, called the F-150 Lightning. They’re saying the price people expected didn’t match what it ended up costing, and that can make buyers skeptical.

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fully loaded

"It doesn't matter the reason. The timing is gone, and the excitement is gone. And by the time the thing comes out, and it's going to come out as always more expensive... It went from like, yes, but that's because we got a fully loaded Lariat."

“Fully loaded” means the car has a lot of options and upgrades. When people compare prices, it matters a lot whether they’re talking about the base model or a fully optioned one.

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delayed cars

"I agree with you that there is a danger that you especially when you reveal a car too early. But there's also precedent to say that delayed cars can be the most successful cars in the world."

They’re talking about what happens when a company delays a car launch. Sometimes it makes people lose interest, but other times the wait builds excitement and the car still sells well.

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Model three

"But there's also precedent to say that delayed cars can be the most successful cars in the world. Model three. Model three, if you recall, was delayed and it was delayed and it was delayed and it was delayed."

They mean the Tesla Model 3. It was delayed, but it still became a huge hit, so the point is that delays don’t automatically mean the car will fail.

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Tesla Model Y

"And then it was a massive hit, regardless. Same thing with the Model Y. Massive hit, right? Model Y now the best selling car, isn't it globally?"

They’re talking about the Tesla Model Y, an electric SUV/crossover. The hosts say it became extremely popular, which they use to argue that timing delays don’t always hurt sales.

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crowded market

"And that's a whole different ball game than if you have a crowded market where you have players like the Chinese coming in and already building these cars that already exist."

A “crowded market” means lots of similar cars are competing for the same buyers. In that situation, it’s harder for one new model to stand out, especially if launch timing and pricing get messy.

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ID four

"Model Y still had a competitive market. What was what was compete with the Model Y? ID four was out."

They mean the Volkswagen ID.4, an electric SUV. They’re saying that by the time Tesla’s rivals arrived, there were more choices for buyers, which makes it harder to dominate the market.

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Ford Mustang

"ID four was out. Mustang Marquis was out. Right. These were cars that were all on them."

They’re listing other cars that compete with the Tesla Model Y, but the name “Mustang Marquis” doesn’t clearly match a specific model as spoken here. It sounds like they were trying to reference a Ford competitor.

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ID buzz route

"it feels like it's going down the ID buzz route. So I wish them well. I love the thing. I want to buy one."

They’re comparing Scout’s situation to the Volkswagen ID. Buzz. The idea is that if a cool new vehicle takes too long to arrive, people lose interest and the hype doesn’t last.

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Mitsubishi Montero

"So the next the last two vehicles we really need to discuss honorable mention, by the way, to the Mitsubishi Montero, which was caught testing a while back."

They mention the Mitsubishi Montero because it was spotted testing. The Montero name is known for being a serious off-road SUV, so a new one could be exciting for people who like going off the pavement.

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ZR2 Canyon

"You know, they have got the ZR2 Canyon in Colorado, which are some of the best factory four wheel drive trucks in the world..."

“ZR2 Canyon” refers to the GMC Canyon ZR2, a factory off-road truck package known for strong trail capability. The hosts use it to argue GM already has the off-road know-how, even if it doesn’t have a Wrangler/Bronco-sized competitor.

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convertible

"Does it need to be a convertible? No, no. Forerunner is not a convertible,"

The hosts briefly discuss whether the rumored Jimmy would need to be a convertible, then reject that idea. For off-road SUVs, convertibles are uncommon because structural rigidity and weather sealing become harder to engineer.

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Toyota Land Cruiser

"Okay. I mean, Toyota has proven with now the hugely successful Land Cruiser and current Gen Fourerunner."

The Toyota Land Cruiser is a tough SUV that’s famous for lasting a long time and handling rough roads. Here, they’re saying Toyota has already proven people will buy a serious off-road SUV.

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OEM

"I had a really fascinating conversation with an engineer once. Mike Garth tells me, Tommy, that these companies are just building stuff that people don't want... I had a really interesting conversation I had with a very senior engineer at a major OEM."

OEM just means the main car company that builds the vehicle in the first place. They’re saying an engineer from one of those companies explained what parts are hardest to design.

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Chevrolet Blazer

"Yes, but I'm trying to make the blazer an off-roader and they turn it into this like mommy mobile."

The Chevrolet Blazer is an SUV people usually buy for normal daily driving. Here, they’re talking about whether turning it into a more rugged, open-top style would make it more appealing.

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Door opening mechanism hinges

"he used to develop... the actual door mechanism hinges and openings to modern SUVs. And he asked me, he said, what do you think is hard to develop a new engine or a door opening?"

Door opening mechanisms and hinges are complex structural and safety components that must align precisely, support loads, and operate reliably across temperature and wear conditions. The engineer’s point is that developing these “body” systems can be as challenging as developing an engine, because they’re tightly integrated with the vehicle’s structure.

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door seals

"there. He said door openings, any moving panel that you need to be able to seal and seal for the life of the vehicle is incredibly complicated. The way that you're actually able to integrate the hinge into the vehicle..."

Door seals are the rubber or molded parts around a door that help keep the car sealed from rain and wind. They have to stay tight even after years of opening and closing.

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rollover and safety structure

"The way that you're actually able to integrate the hinge into the vehicle, the structure around the door opening for rollover and safety, and then the actual seals themselves..."

The area around the door opening isn’t just for the door—it also helps protect you in crashes. The car’s body has to be strong enough to handle impacts and rollovers while still letting the door work normally.

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Nissan ProPilot

"but I was just in Japan driving around the middle of Tokyo with Nissan's new ProPilot, which is, they're saying this AI driven automated system that incorporates everything that Tesla does, plus it has LiDAR plus it has radar."

Nissan ProPilot is Nissan’s driver-assist technology that helps the car handle parts of driving. The hosts are saying it uses extra sensors to better understand the road, especially at complicated intersections.

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radar

"they're saying this AI driven automated system that incorporates everything that Tesla does, plus it has LiDAR plus it has radar. So they're doing redundancies that you like."

Radar is a sensor that uses radio waves to detect objects around the car. It helps the system judge how far away things are and whether they’re moving toward or away from you.

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AI driven automated system

"but I was just in Japan driving around the middle of Tokyo with Nissan's new ProPilot, which is, they're saying this AI driven automated system that incorporates everything that Tesla does, plus it has LiDAR plus it has radar."

This means the car uses AI to help it understand what’s happening around it and make driving-related decisions. The discussion is basically saying that software/AI is hard, but so are the physical engineering problems too.

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LiDAR

"they're saying this AI driven automated system that incorporates everything that Tesla does, plus it has LiDAR plus it has radar. So they're doing redundancies that you like."

LiDAR is a sensing technology that uses lasers to measure how far away things are. It helps the car “see” the world around it in more detail, which is useful in tricky driving situations.

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redundancies

"they're saying this AI driven automated system that incorporates everything that Tesla does, plus it has LiDAR plus it has radar. So they're doing redundancies that you like. To me, especially in these like six way intersections..."

Redundancies mean the car uses more than one way to “confirm” what it’s seeing. That way, if one sensor has trouble, the others can help keep the system working correctly.

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six way intersections

"To me, especially in these like six way intersections with scooters and pedestrians and motorcycles and trucks and cars and construction, that to me is a much more difficult nut to crack than how you open and close a door..."

A six-way intersection is a busy crossing with traffic coming from many directions. It’s hard for driver-assist systems because there are lots of people and vehicles moving around at once.

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12 of 12

"So we can talk about what Wrangler is doing now, which is their 12 of 12. Every month they're coming out with a new trim"

“12 of 12” sounds like a plan to do something new every month for a full year. Here, it’s referring to Wrangler adding a new trim each month.

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plug-in hybrid

"So is the new one going to be a hybrid? I guess something else. Yes, almost certainly. Okay, so it's going to be electrified. Probably not a plug-in hybrid, but I would be very surprised if it wasn't a normal hybrid like the Cherokee."

A plug-in hybrid is a hybrid car with a battery you can charge like a regular electric car. They’re saying the new one probably won’t be the type you plug in, meaning it may not have the same electric-only charging capability.

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Jeep Cherokee

"Probably not a plug-in hybrid, but I would be very surprised if it wasn't a normal hybrid like the Cherokee."

The Jeep Cherokee is a Jeep SUV model. In this segment, they’re using it as an example of a “normal” hybrid setup, to compare against the more electrified options they’re discussing.

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internal combustion engine

"There's going to be some kind of internal combustion engine in the thing. So is it going to be so one of the things I got to do?"

An internal combustion engine is the normal gas engine most people think of in cars. In this discussion, they’re debating whether the new vehicle will still have a gas engine involved in some way.

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2027 Rogue hybrid

"One of the things I got to do and the technology is moving so fast on this in Japan is I got to drive the new Rogue, the 2027 Rogue hybrid."

The Nissan Rogue is a popular family crossover. This episode talks about a future 2027 hybrid version, and the big idea is that the gas engine mainly helps generate electricity instead of directly driving the wheels.

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serial hybrid

"And unlike any other hybrid, it's like the best way I could describe it is it's like an Amtrak. It's a serial hybrid. Yeah, series. Sorry. Yeah, hybrid. In other words, there's no connection from the internal combustion engine to the wheels."

In a serial hybrid, the gas engine isn’t connected to the wheels. It mainly acts like a generator to make electricity, and an electric motor uses that power to move the car.

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electric motor

"So the only thing the internal combustion engine does is it charges the battery, which then powers an electric motor, which then spins the wheel."

An electric motor is the part that turns electricity into movement. In this serial-hybrid setup, the battery powers the motor to drive the wheels.

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city efficiency vs inefficiency

"Because series hybrids are really efficient in the city. JM. And very inefficient in the"

They’re saying this hybrid design works especially well for stop-and-go city driving. The idea is that the gas engine can run more efficiently while the electric motor handles the driving.

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Chevrolet Volt

"way the GM got around that in the Volt was actually put a drive shaft from the engine to the wheels so that when it was on the highway, it could power its direct drive. Yeah, direct drive."

The Chevrolet Volt is a plug-in hybrid. It can run on electricity, and when needed the gas engine can help by generating power instead of directly driving the wheels.

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direct drive

"to the wheels so that when it was on the highway, it could power its direct drive. Yeah, direct drive. And then, of course, if you look at like the new Honda..."

In hybrids, “direct drive” means the power can go straight to the wheels instead of going through a bunch of extra gear changes. That can help it feel smoother and be more efficient.

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Honda CR-V Trail Sport

"if you look at like the new Honda that actually just drove the new Honda CR, CRV trail sport, and the Civic does this as well. And they've got this really direct drive system..."

The Honda CR-V Trail Sport is a Honda SUV trim being used as an example of newer hybrid tech. The point is that it uses electric motors in a way that can change how power flows to the wheels.

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Honda Civic

"the new Honda CR, CRV trail sport, and the Civic does this as well. And they've got this really direct drive system where they've got two electric motors."

The Honda Civic is being used as another example of Honda’s newer hybrid setup. The takeaway is that the car can use electric motors in multiple ways depending on driving conditions.

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series hybrid vs parallel hybrid

"they've got this really direct drive system where they've got two electric motors. And sometimes it works like a series hybrid. And sometimes it works like a parallel hybrid..."

Think of hybrid modes like two different ways to move the car. In one mode, the gas engine mostly makes electricity and the motors move the wheels; in the other, the gas engine and electric motor can both help drive the wheels together.

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Prius-like hybrid

"Because the 4xE was a traditional, like almost like a Prius-like hybrid, if I recall."

“Prius-like” is a casual way to describe a hybrid that’s focused on efficiency and uses the electric motor a lot. In this conversation, it’s used to set expectations for how Jeep’s hybrid system might work.

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Jeep 4xe

"Because the 4xE was a traditional, like almost like a Prius-like hybrid, if I recall."

Jeep 4xe is Jeep’s hybrid/off-road electrified system. The idea is to add electric power to help the vehicle move better—especially at low speeds—while still using a gas engine.

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solid front axle

"I will be very surprised if it retains solid front axle. I don't think it will. So I think that likely we're"

A solid front axle is a rugged setup where both front wheels are connected by one strong axle. It can help the tires stay on the ground when the road gets rough, so changing it would affect off-road feel.

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independent front suspension

"going to see independent front suspension, which is going to make everybody really mad. But I think for their new road-going targets, likely it will be independent front suspension."

It’s a suspension design where the left and right front wheels don’t have to move together. That usually makes the ride smoother and helps the truck steer better on rough roads.

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windshield will not fold down

"Likely the windshield will not fold down because nobody does that. But likely the doors and the roof wheels still come off."

Some off-road vehicles let you fold the windshield down for open-air driving. The hosts are saying this one probably won’t, because it’s difficult to make it safe and sealed.

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doors and roof come off

"Likely the doors and the roof wheels still come off. JM. I hope you're right... With the doors and the roof on versus doors."

Some off-road Jeeps let you remove the doors and take off the roof. They’re also talking about how that setup can change fuel economy compared with having everything on.

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Jeep Recon

"... not take advantage of it? JM. Because that's the recon. The recon is... JM. The recon is pure electric...."

The Jeep Recon is a Jeep that’s planned to be electric. The podcast says it’s “pure electric,” meaning it uses electricity instead of a gas engine. It’s brought up because it’s aimed at off-road driving in an electric format.

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Chevrolet Corvette

"How about something clever like the Corvette ZR1 where you power the... JM. No, they're not going to do that."

The Corvette ZR1 is a top, performance-focused version of the Corvette. They mention it as a hypothetical example of how a hybrid system could split power between front and rear wheels.

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evolution vs revolution (Wrangler not revolutionizing)

"People who buy Wranglers, I think a lot of the hardcore community doesn't want that much change. Right? So I think it's going to be a more deliberate kind of focus on evolution. Wrangler has never revolutionized anything."

They’re saying the Wrangler tends to change slowly instead of completely reinventing itself. That’s often because the people who buy them want the familiar feel.

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independent suspension

"I think that they will go independent suspension because Ford has proven with the Bronco you can be 97% as capable for most people and still be able to accomplish the off-road targets and on-road targets."

Independent suspension means the wheels can move more independently over bumps. That usually helps the tires stay on the ground better, both on rough trails and on regular roads.

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Ford Bronco

"All right, so let's talk about the Bronco. Well, Jason Lee asked an interesting question on Patreon. Do you think the new Wrangler Jam will still have a manual transmission?"

The Ford Bronco is Ford’s off-road SUV. The hosts are talking about how Ford might improve it with better suspension and hybrid/electric power while keeping it good for trails.

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Challenger Hellcats

"They're like the people who buy Mopar Hellcats and, you know, Hemi's. These are the last people who are going to be on the electrification train."

Hellcat is a high-performance Dodge brand name. The hosts use it as an example of drivers who tend to be traditional and might still want manual transmissions.

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split hybrid setup

"...also a split hybrid setup where the front axle is driven by an electric motor. We don't know anything about what's going on."

A split hybrid setup is a hybrid system where the gas engine and electric motor don’t just work together the same way all the time. In this idea, the electric motor would help drive the front wheels.

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EcoBoost

"So I think Ford could certainly EcoBoost a Bronco. What they have. No, I mean like hybridized EcoBoost."

EcoBoost is Ford’s name for turbocharged engines. The idea here is that Ford could add a hybrid system to a turbo engine to get better efficiency and still keep power.

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electrification

"Yeah. Basically the CEO went on a podcast and said that the entire lineup will be electrified. Electrified. That means Broncos."

Electrification is the broad move toward hybrid and/or fully electric powertrains, often to reduce emissions and improve efficiency. The hosts reference a CEO statement that the lineup will be electrified, and they connect that to what it could mean for Broncos and other off-road models.

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Toyota Previa

"Filling up and I noticed that this like ratty Toyota Previa. Remember those things?... Comes pulling up behind me where the engine was. That's also was hard to do. Mid-engine."

The Toyota Previa is a minivan, but it’s known for having its engine placed more in the middle than most minivans. That’s why they mention it as a “mid-engine” vehicle.

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mid-engine

"Comes pulling up behind me where the engine was. That's also was hard to do. Mid-engine. Yeah. Mid-engine. Yeah. It was really ratty, but it's a Previa."

“Mid-engine” means the engine is located closer to the middle of the car instead of all the way in front. That can help the car feel more balanced when driving.

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gas station ignition risk from fuel vapors

"I'm like, is anybody else seeing this?... this is freaking dangerous because as you know, what combusts is not the gas itself. It's the fumes. It's the vapors... enjoying a cigarette."

Fuel doesn’t need to be liquid to be dangerous—gasoline vapors are highly flammable and can ignite from sparks or hot surfaces. That’s why smoking near a fueling pump is treated as a serious safety hazard, even if the cigarette isn’t directly touching the fuel.

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range extended hybrid

"I don't know, dad. I just think that range extended hybrid. It's just not going to happen by 2028."

A range-extended hybrid is like an electric vehicle that can also use a small engine to “recharge itself” on the go. That helps you drive farther without needing to plug in every time.

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Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon

"The G-Wagon is working on that. I'm about to blow your mind. They already have. Not this Bronco Sport... It's got to be body on frame. The G-Wagon's not going to be like that."

The Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon is a luxury off-road SUV. The hosts mention it because it’s built like a traditional off-roader, and they think any “smaller” version should follow that same approach.

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Ford Bronco Sport

"Not this Bronco Sport. That's exactly what a smaller Bronco is. No, it's not. It's not."

The Bronco Sport is Ford’s smaller Bronco. The hosts are saying it’s not what hardcore off-road buyers mean when they ask for a “smaller Bronco,” because it’s not built the same way.

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Honda Crv

"...n't buying Bronco Sports. They're not buying the CRV. It's already small. The two door Broncos already..."

The Honda CR-V is a compact SUV that’s meant for everyday driving. The podcast says people are buying it instead of some other small SUVs. It’s popular because it’s already a proven, practical option.

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Suzuki Jimny

"...ready tiny. The Trail Sport. They want a serious Jimny like. This is a huge hole in the marketplace. Fo..."

The Suzuki Jimny is a small SUV made for off-road driving. The podcast talks about different versions and wants a more capable “serious” Jimny. It’s mentioned because people like it for its size and trail ability.

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market hole in the marketplace

"The Trail Sport. They want a serious Jimny like. This is a huge hole in the marketplace."

The hosts are describing an unmet demand segment—buyers who want a smaller, serious off-road vehicle that isn’t currently offered in the way they want. In this context, they argue the market is missing a “compact” body-on-frame competitor to full-size Broncos/Wranglers.

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