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A rotary RX-8 story kicks things off: after a low-compression rebuild, the car stumbles and seems to head into limp mode until the battery is disconnected. The hosts connect that kind of behavior to diagnostics, ECU programming, and why some Mazda dealers won’t touch older cars—pointing listeners to a Dallas rotary specialist. They also walk through remote troubleshooting with scanners and share practical guidance on ethanol fuels (E15/E20/E85), including why older cars may run poorly and what to do if the wrong fuel gets used.
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Mazda Rx8
"I've got a 2008 Mazda RX-8 rotary engine, Winkle thing and my boy and I, I think this has been kind of a labor of love... We tried rebuilding the motor, it had low compression... Then it starts stumbling on itself and almost like it wants to go into limp mode"
The 2008 Mazda RX-8 uses a rotary engine, which is different from the usual piston engines. Because of that design, problems after a rebuild—like losing power or going into a protective mode—can be tied to how the engine’s internal seals and compression are behaving.
The 2008 Mazda RX-8 is notable for its rotary engine (a Wankel design), which spins instead of using pistons. That rotary layout is sensitive to internal sealing and compression health, so symptoms like low compression and sudden limp behavior often point to sealing or rebuild-related issues.
rotary engine
"I've got a 2008 Mazda RX-8 rotary engine, Winkle thing and my boy and I... We tried rebuilding the motor, it had low compression... It's got good compression again. We started up, it runs for about 15 seconds perfectly. Then it starts stumbling"
A rotary engine is a type of engine that makes power with a spinning part instead of pistons. If the sealing inside the engine isn’t right, it can lose compression and run badly—sometimes triggering a safety/limp mode.
A rotary engine (Wankel design) uses a spinning rotor to create combustion and power, rather than pistons moving up and down. Because the rotor relies on tight sealing surfaces, issues like low compression after a rebuild can quickly lead to poor running, misfires, and protective driving behavior.
low compression
"We tried rebuilding the motor, it had low compression, had it down at the Mazda dealership... It's got good compression again. We started up, it runs for about 15 seconds perfectly. Then it starts stumbling"
Compression is the engine’s ability to squeeze and pressurize the working space so the fuel can burn properly. If compression is low, the engine may run rough, stumble, and feel like it’s losing power.
Low compression means the engine isn’t building the cylinder/combustion-chamber pressure it needs to burn fuel effectively. In a rotary engine, compression health is tightly linked to the rotor housing and sealing surfaces, so low compression often correlates with hard starting, stumbling, and loss of power.
side seals
"We got the sides resurfaced professionally, got two new housings for it, new rings, new seals, side seals, all that stuff. It's got good compression again."
Side seals are small sealing parts inside a rotary engine that help keep pressure where it needs to be. If they don’t seal well, the engine can lose compression and start running rough after a short time.
Side seals are rotary-engine sealing components that help control leakage between the rotor and housing areas. Because they directly affect how well the engine holds compression, worn or improperly sealing side seals can cause a rebuilt rotary to run briefly, then stumble or trigger fault behavior.
two new housings
"We got the sides resurfaced professionally, got two new housings for it, new rings, new seals, side seals, all that stuff. It's got good compression again."
In a rotary engine rebuild, the housings (the stationary parts the rotor works inside) must be in excellent condition because they form the sealing surfaces. Replacing housings suggests the rebuild addressed wear or damage that could otherwise prevent correct sealing and compression.
sides resurfaced
"We got the sides resurfaced professionally, got two new housings for it, new rings, new seals, side seals, all that stuff. It's got good compression again."
Resurfacing means shaving or machining a surface to make it smooth and correctly shaped again. For an engine rebuild, that can help the internal parts seal properly so the engine can build compression.
Resurfacing is machining a surface to restore the correct flatness/finish after wear or damage. On a rotary engine, the rotor housing and related sealing surfaces must be very precise, so resurfacing can be part of restoring compression and sealing performance after rebuild work.
new seals
"We got the sides resurfaced professionally, got two new housings for it, new rings, new seals, side seals, all that stuff. It's got good compression again."
Seals are the engine’s leak-prevention parts. If they’re worn or installed incorrectly, the engine can lose compression and run badly, so replacing them is a common rebuild step.
Seals are critical sealing surfaces that prevent combustion gases from leaking and help keep oil where it should be. For rotary engines, seal condition strongly affects compression and running quality, so fresh seals are a key part of a rebuild intended to fix low-compression problems.
new rings
"We got the sides resurfaced professionally, got two new housings for it, new rings, new seals, side seals, all that stuff. It's got good compression again."
Rings are parts inside the engine that help seal things up so compression stays where it belongs. New rings are often installed during a rebuild to help the engine run correctly again.
Engine rings are sealing components that help control compression and manage oil/fuel sealing in the combustion process. In a rotary rebuild, replacing rings is meant to restore proper sealing so the engine can produce stable compression and avoid misfire/stumble conditions.
limp mode
"Then it starts stumbling on itself and almost like it wants to go into limp mode and we can't even get it to drive... until you unhook the battery."
Limp mode is when the car intentionally reduces power to protect itself after it senses a problem. It can make the car run poorly or not move normally until the issue is cleared or the system resets.
Limp mode is a protective strategy where the car limits power and certain functions to prevent damage when it detects a serious fault. The RX-8’s behavior described here—stumbling, then refusing to drive until the battery is disconnected—fits how some electronic or sensor-related faults can trigger a temporary shutdown of normal operation.
check engine lights
"About 20 seconds, put it back on and it'll run just like that, start right up fine again and the check engine lights on all the time."
That light means the car’s computer noticed something wrong. Even if the car drives, the computer is still flagging a problem.
The check engine light is the dashboard warning that the car’s engine-management system has detected a fault. It’s typically triggered by stored diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) and can stay on even if the car still runs.
ECU
"We did get a new ECU for it, a new used one for us and I can't find anybody to do programming for it or to swap it over to get the key to match."
The ECU is the car’s computer that controls things like fuel and engine behavior. If you swap it, it may need to be set up so it works with the car and its key.
ECU stands for engine control unit, the car’s main computer for managing engine and emissions functions. When the ECU is replaced, it often needs to be programmed or matched to the car’s keys and sensors so the immobilizer and diagnostics work correctly.
Subaru WRX
"I think the kid was going like, we should get a WRX and Nathan was like, how about this RX-8?"
A WRX is a Subaru performance car that’s popular with car people. It’s often chosen as a project because there are lots of parts and tuning options.
The Subaru WRX is a turbocharged performance sedan/wagon known for rally-style all-wheel-drive traction and a strong enthusiast aftermarket. In a project-car conversation, it’s often mentioned as a common “starter” platform for upgrades and tuning.
live data
"You're going to have to get a scanner that can read data as well as codes on that engine."
Live data (real-time sensor readings) is information streamed from the car’s sensors to the diagnostic tool while the engine is running. It’s often used to confirm whether a suspected issue is actually happening right now.
trouble codes
"You're going to have to get a scanner that can read data as well as codes on that engine."
Trouble codes are error messages your car’s computer saves when something goes wrong. A mechanic uses them to narrow down the problem before doing repairs.
Trouble codes are standardized messages stored by a car’s engine computer when it detects a fault. They help identify which system is malfunctioning, though they often need interpretation alongside live data.
scanner
"You're going to have to get a scanner that can read data as well as codes on that engine."
A scanner is a diagnostic tool that plugs into the car and reads what the computer is reporting. It can show error codes and sometimes real-time sensor readings so you know what to fix.
In car diagnostics, a scanner is a tool that connects to the vehicle’s onboard computer to pull trouble codes and live sensor data. It’s how a shop can figure out what’s wrong without guessing based on symptoms alone.
custom tune
"they may just go in there and custom tune it [438.1s] and eliminate whatever's causing it [440.0s] to not continue to run."
A “custom tune” means changing the car’s computer settings. The goal is to make the engine run right and stop it from shutting down for the wrong reasons.
A “custom tune” is an aftermarket calibration change to a car’s engine control software. It can adjust fuel, ignition, and other parameters so the engine runs correctly and avoids triggering faults.
sensor
"It's more than likely seeing a sensor [444.4s] that has failed and it is [447.2s] saying, hey, shut down [448.4s] because something's not running right"
A sensor is a part that measures what’s happening in the engine. If it’s broken or lies to the computer, the car may shut off to prevent damage.
In modern cars, sensors measure things like engine temperature, airflow, throttle position, and oxygen content. If a sensor fails or sends incorrect data, the engine control unit can interpret it as a problem and shut the engine down to protect the engine.
Mazda rotary engine
"And then I put [481.8s] Mazda rotary engine [483.1s] expert near me."
Mazda’s rotary engine is different from most car engines. Instead of pistons going up and down, it uses a spinning rotor to make power. Because it’s unique, some shops specialize in working on them.
A Mazda rotary engine uses a Wankel design, where a spinning rotor creates combustion instead of pistons moving up and down. That rotary layout is why Mazda rotaries have a distinctive sound and feel, and why “rotary specialists” exist to handle their specific maintenance and rebuild needs.
alcohol injection
"Say we took the alcohol injection off of this car and we're, we bypassed that. So they may oh, we may need to program that."
Alcohol injection is an extra system that adds alcohol to help the engine run more safely under certain conditions. If you remove it, the computer may still be set up to expect it, so the car can run wrong or shut down unless it’s updated.
Alcohol injection is a fuel/charge-supplement system that injects alcohol (often methanol or ethanol) into the intake or near the combustion process. It’s used to improve knock resistance and cooling, but removing or bypassing it can require recalibration so the engine management doesn’t expect that extra fueling/strategy.
program that
"So they may oh, we may need to program that. Does that help you out there, Nathan?"
“Program that” means updating the car’s computer settings. If the car used to have alcohol injection but it’s been removed, the computer needs new settings so it can run correctly.
“Program that” refers to updating the vehicle’s engine control software (ECU/engine management) so it matches the car’s current hardware setup. If alcohol injection was removed or bypassed, the calibration may need changes to fuel/air targets, sensor expectations, and control logic to prevent stalling or short-run behavior.
E15 gasoline
"Hi guys. Thanks for taking my call. You bet. I just want you guys to talk about the new E15 gasoline that's coming out and what are we going to do about putting gas in our older vehicles that don't like the ethanol"
E15 is a type of gas that has extra alcohol (ethanol) mixed in—about 15% of the fuel. Some older cars don’t handle that alcohol blend as well, so people worry about compatibility.
E15 gasoline is a fuel blend that contains 15% ethanol mixed with gasoline. The ethanol content can affect older vehicles because some engines, fuel systems, and fuel lines weren’t designed for higher ethanol percentages.
ethanol
"You bet. I just want you guys to talk about the new E15 gasoline that's coming out and what are we going to do about putting gas in our older vehicles that don't like the ethanol"
Ethanol is a kind of alcohol that gets mixed into some gasoline. In older cars, it can cause problems because the fuel system materials and engine settings may not be made for it.
Ethanol is an alcohol-based fuel additive used in gasoline blends to reduce emissions and improve octane. In older vehicles, ethanol can be an issue because it may be harder on certain rubber seals, fuel system components, and can change how the engine runs if it wasn’t calibrated for higher ethanol levels.
fuel blend compatibility limits in older cars
"…when you get older than that… the oldest one I've got in there is 2002… anything that's on our lot basically will work just fine on E15. You start getting more than that you can start having some weird things going on…"
The segment describes how older vehicles may have limits on which fuel blends they can handle. Even if the engine computer can compensate at first, beyond a certain ethanol content the car can’t maintain proper combustion, leading to drivability issues and a check engine light.
computers automatically adjust
"The computers automatically adjust and they'll adjust what they need to do is put more fuel in to get the same ratio out the tailpipe"
Cars have computers that constantly make small adjustments while driving. If the fuel is different, the computer tries to compensate so the engine still runs correctly.
Modern cars use engine control computers to adapt to changing conditions, including fuel composition. When the fuel burns differently (like higher alcohol content), the computer can change fueling strategy to try to maintain the target air-fuel mixture.
air-fuel ratio
"…put more fuel in to get the same ratio out the tailpipe because the alcohol content makes them run leaner."
The air-fuel ratio is how much air and fuel the engine mixes together. If the mix isn’t right, the engine may run rough and the car may warn you.
The air-fuel ratio is the balance between air and fuel entering the engine. If it’s off, combustion can become inefficient, which can cause rough running and trigger diagnostic warnings.
run leaner
"…because the alcohol content makes them run leaner. Once they get so far the check engine light comes on…"
Running lean means the engine is getting relatively less fuel than it needs compared to the air. That can make the engine run poorly and can eventually trigger warnings.
Running lean means the engine has relatively more air than fuel in the mixture. A leaner mixture can increase combustion stress and reduce performance, and the host links it to older cars struggling with higher-alcohol fuel blends.
octane
"they just put this label on them that most people have seen that says 88. And 88 is the magic code word for I contain 15% ethanol ... I've never used a drop of ethanol in my car all I use is that 88 octane"
Octane is basically a fuel quality rating related to how resistant the fuel is to knocking. A higher octane number can be good for certain engines, but it doesn’t necessarily mean the fuel has (or doesn’t have) ethanol.
Octane is a measure of a fuel’s resistance to knocking (premature combustion) in an engine. Higher-octane fuels are often recommended for engines with higher compression or more aggressive ignition timing, but octane rating doesn’t automatically tell you the ethanol percentage.
running lean
"as I change from 0 to 10 to 15 it's running a little leaner and when I run 15 in it it won't idle well"
“Lean” means there isn’t enough fuel mixed with the air. When there’s too little fuel, the engine can run rough or idle badly.
“Running lean” means the air-fuel mixture has too much air compared to fuel. On a carbureted or poorly tuned engine, that can cause rough idle and hesitation because combustion isn’t getting enough fuel.
re-jet it
"well if I re-jet it it would run fine on E15 or E10"
Re-jetting is swapping carburetor parts so the engine gets the right amount of fuel. It’s how you tune a carb when the fuel mix changes.
Re-jetting means changing the carburetor jets to alter how much fuel is delivered. It’s a common fix when an engine runs lean or rich due to different fuel types or ethanol percentages.
E10
"well if I re-jet it it would run fine on E15 or E10"
E10 is gasoline with 10% ethanol added. That blend can change how the engine burns fuel, so a carb might need adjustment.
E10 is gasoline blended with 10% ethanol. Like E15, it can affect how a carbureted engine runs, often requiring jetting changes to avoid lean or rich operation.
too rich
"but on nothing it would be a little too rich and I'd be maybe smoking a little bit burning more fuel"
“Rich” means there’s too much fuel for the amount of air. That can make the engine smoke and burn extra fuel.
“Too rich” means the air-fuel mixture has too much fuel compared to air. That can lead to incomplete combustion, which may show up as smoking and higher fuel consumption.
carbureted vehicles can't adjust at all
"that's the thing carbureted vehicles can't adjust at all to that pretty much"
Carburetors don’t “self-correct” like modern fuel injection does. If the fuel changes (like ethanol content), the engine may need tuning to run right.
Carbureted engines typically rely on fixed jetting and manual choke settings, so they can’t automatically compensate for changes in fuel composition. That’s why ethanol blends can require re-jetting to restore the correct air-fuel ratio.
fuel pump
"because the manufacturers that build the fuel pumps ... but if you've got something old ... the fuel pump may go out"
The fuel pump is the part that sends gas from the tank to the engine. If it starts to fail—especially after many years—the engine may not get enough fuel.
A fuel pump moves fuel from the tank to the engine and maintains the pressure the fuel system needs. In older vehicles, pump wear and fuel chemistry (like higher alcohol content) can accelerate failure, which is why the speaker warns that an old pump may eventually go out.
carburetors
"that build the fuel pumps and the carburetors on the small engines"
A carburetor is an older-style device that mixes fuel and air for the engine. The point here is that different fuel-system designs have different durability and warranty concerns.
Carburetors mix air and fuel mechanically before it enters the engine. The speaker contrasts carburetors with fuel pumps on small engines, implying that manufacturers consider warranty risk and material resistance to fuel contamination or chemistry.
fuel injection
"1987 88, 89, 90 Chevy truck with fuel injection and you're running 15 in there"
Fuel injection is how the engine gets fuel—using valves/injectors controlled by the vehicle. If the fuel system can’t deliver fuel properly, the truck can run poorly or not start.
Fuel injection is a system that delivers fuel to the engine using electronically controlled injectors rather than a carburetor. Because it depends on steady fuel pressure and flow, problems like a failing fuel pump can directly affect starting, acceleration, and overall drivability.
alcohol content issue
"it may go out because of an alcohol content issue"
This is about fuel that contains more alcohol than usual. That alcohol can be harder on certain fuel-system parts, especially as they get older.
An alcohol content issue refers to how fuel with higher alcohol percentages (often ethanol blends) can affect fuel-system components. Some fuel pumps and seals can degrade faster depending on materials and age, leading to failures sooner than expected.
alcohol resistant
"and when you put the new one in it's going to be upgraded [963.6s] and be alcohol resistant [965.8s] but as far as like the injectors failing"
Some fuels contain alcohol (like ethanol). “Alcohol resistant” means the car’s fuel-system parts are made to handle that fuel without getting damaged.
“Alcohol resistant” refers to materials in the fuel system that can tolerate alcohol-blended fuels without degrading. In practice, it’s about preventing swelling, cracking, or hardening of rubber hoses, seals, and other components when fuel contains ethanol or similar alcohols.
injectors
"[965.8s] but as far as like the injectors failing [967.4s] and stuff like that I don't see that happening"
Fuel injectors are the parts that deliver fuel to the engine. If they don’t work right, the engine can run rough or not get the right amount of fuel.
Fuel injectors are the components that spray fuel into the engine in precise amounts and timing. When injectors fail or clog, you can get drivability issues like rough running, misfires, or poor fuel economy.
E20
"but you'll see pumps with E20 [1011.8s] will that work?"
E20 is regular gasoline mixed with about 20% alcohol (ethanol). Some cars can handle that mix because their computer can adjust how much fuel they inject.
E20 means gasoline blended with 20% ethanol. Ethanol changes fuel properties, so the engine’s fuel system and engine control computer may need to adjust fueling to keep combustion stable.
BMW E30
"and I've been running E30 [1023.1s] in it for over 10 years [1025.0s] and I've had zero issues"
E30 is a BMW 3 Series from the older generation era. Here it’s mentioned because the host says it can run ethanol-blended fuel like E20 without issues.
BMW E30 refers to the 3 Series generation from the 1980s to early 1990s. In this segment, the host uses an E30 as an example of running E20 (ethanol-blended fuel) for years without problems, emphasizing the car’s engine computer adjusting fueling.
engine control computer
"the computer is capable of adjusting [1029.8s] just fine [1031.9s] and a lot of other cars are too"
The engine computer is the car’s “brain” for the engine. It watches sensors and changes things like fuel delivery so the engine runs smoothly with different fuels.
The engine control computer (often called the ECU) monitors engine sensors and adjusts parameters like fuel delivery to match operating conditions. The host claims it can adjust properly for E20 even if the vehicle isn’t a flex-fuel car.
Ford Flex
"Shannon bought the brand new truck that was not flex fuel and he's been running is that 4 years old no..."
The Ford Flex is a large family vehicle with three rows of seats, made to carry people and cargo. It’s built more like a wagon/crossover than a traditional sedan, so it focuses on space. It may come up in a discussion about what kind of fuel or engine setup it has and how that changes ownership.
The Ford Flex is a full-size, three-row crossover wagon built by Ford, known for its boxy shape and roomy interior. It’s often discussed because it offered practical family space in a distinctive design, and it can come up in conversations about ownership and fuel/engine options. In a podcast context, it may be mentioned when comparing how different fuel setups or configurations affect day-to-day use.
flex fuel vehicle
"to use in a non flex fuel vehicle [1056.4s] it's not certified for it, that's why it's not legal"
A flex-fuel vehicle is built to handle different fuel mixtures, like regular gas and a high-ethanol blend (E85). If a car isn’t set up for it, using that fuel can cause problems.
A flex-fuel vehicle is designed to run on more than one fuel blend, most commonly gasoline and ethanol blends like E85. It has the sensors and engine calibration needed to handle different ethanol content safely and legally.
E85
"the lowest price at the pump [1099.7s] is E85 [1100.4s] do not put E85 in your car"
E85 is a fuel mixture with a lot of ethanol (about 85%). It’s not meant for every car—only cars made to handle it should use it.
E85 is a fuel blend made of about 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline. Because it contains much more ethanol than regular gasoline, only vehicles specifically designed and certified for it (flex-fuel) should use it.
flex fuel car
"if it's not a flex fuel car, don't do it [1105.0s] but they're doing it, I've had a few people come in"
A flex-fuel car can use different fuel types, especially E85, which has a lot more ethanol than regular gas. The car is set up to adjust so it doesn’t run rough when you switch fuels.
A flex-fuel car is designed to run on more than one fuel blend, most commonly gasoline and E85 (gasoline with a high ethanol content). The car’s fuel system and engine calibration are built to handle the different fuel chemistry and energy content without running poorly.
fuel blend mismatch causing poor drivability
"their cars ran horribly [1109.6s] and they're like, what do I do [1110.8s] and they had about a half tank of gas [1112.3s] and I said, let's go across the street [1113.7s] let's fill it up with non ethanol to the top [1116.9s] start it up, it'll probably clear right up [1118.6s] and all of them have, right away"
If you put the wrong type of fuel in the wrong car, the engine can start running rough. Switching back to the correct fuel blend can make the car feel normal again quickly.
The segment describes a common issue: when a vehicle that isn’t calibrated for a high-ethanol fuel (like E85) is filled with it, the engine can run horribly due to incorrect fuel/air and combustion behavior. The quick “fill up with non ethanol and it clears right up” approach works because the engine returns to a fuel blend it can properly burn.
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