Pancho Weaver on Nascar Chassis, Building a Trans AM Monster and a Career in Racing
About this episode
Pancho Weaver shares how a childhood around Southern California midget racing turned into a decades-long career building and racing Trans Am cars. He explains why his “generation three” Trans Am effort is different: all-round tube chassis built via CAD/CNC, a focus on torsional stiffness, improved mechanical grip, and a distinctive 180-degree header sound. Weaver also covers his NASCAR/DEI chassis and engine-program experience, race-weekend workflow, and the team’s use of Penske-era Dodge engines. The conversation expands into his wild 3-wheel “Dream Weaver” street/trike project and a Bonneville wheel-driven land-speed bid.
Pancho Weaver joins us to break down his incredible journey from off-road racing and working with legends in the industry to building one of the most unique Trans Am cars on track today. We dive into the engineering behind his iconic Challenger, his time working alongside Dale Earnhardt, and what it really takes to compete as a privateer in modern racing. Plus, we get into wild builds, future projects, and the mindset behind pushing innovation in motorsports.
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00:00 – Intro, Road America Discovery & Meeting Pancho
07:06 – The Challenger's Identity: Sound, Menard Yellow & Building a Statement
14:28 – Chassis Engineering, Mechanical Grip & Solving Steering Challenges 21:22 – Drivers, Coaching, Boris Said & Building a Development Program
28:14 – Early Career: Parnelli Jones, Off-Road Racing & Stadium Racing
35:36 – Leaving Off-Road, Physical Toll & Falling in Love with Trans Am
43:22 – Meeting Dale Earnhardt & The Start of a NASCAR Chassis Program 50:05 – String Alignment, Setup Accuracy & What Changed in NASCAR
57:11 – Engine Program, Dodge Powerplants & Making Reliable Power
01:04:30 – Running a Trans Am Program: Costs, Strategy & Privateer Reality 01:12:00 – Bonneville Land Speed Project, Dual Engines & 6XD Partnership 01:20:30 – Three-Wheeler Build, Wild Concepts & Creative Engineering 01:35:30 – Driving Experience, Favorite Tracks & What Makes These Cars Demanding
01:38:08 – Faith, Family, Career Perspective & Long-Term Outlook
6XD Gearbox
"This episode is brought to you by 6XD Gearbox. More on them later."
They’re the sponsor here, and the name suggests they make or support gearbox/transmission parts. It’s worth checking them out because sponsors like this usually have something performance-related to offer.
6XD Gearbox is mentioned as the episode sponsor, implying they’re involved in drivetrain/gearbox-related products or services. For listeners, it’s a cue to look up what they build—often these sponsors are tied to racing or performance transmission components.
Road America
"I was at Road America about a year, year and a half ago. And I was like, man, that is a crazy looking challenger over there."
Road America is a well-known road course in the U.S., and it’s used here as the setting for discovering Pancho Weaver. For listeners, it helps to know that this is the kind of venue where serious racing cars and fabrication work show up.
Parnelli Jones
"And my dad was an old midget racer from the 40s and 50s and 60s. And I just kind of grew up around it, you know, and he... Let's pause you for a second."
Parnelli Jones was a famous race driver. The host is using him as an example of the kind of big-name racing culture that was around Weaver’s family.
Parnelli Jones is referenced as part of the Southern California racing lineage that Pancho Weaver’s father grew up around. Mentioning Jones signals the era and caliber of motorsports influence—important context for understanding how deep the family’s racing roots go.
Dan Gurney
"And he was in the age group of like Parnelli Jones and Dan Gurney and, you know, Carol Shelby and some of those guys."
Dan Gurney is named alongside other legendary drivers, reinforcing that Weaver’s father was connected to top-tier racing figures. This helps listeners place the story in a historical motorsports network rather than a casual local scene.
Carol Shelby
"And he was in the age group of like Parnelli Jones and Dan Gurney and, you know, Carol Shelby and some of those guys."
Carol Shelby was a legendary figure in American racing and performance cars. Mentioning him suggests Weaver’s dad was connected to influential people who shaped how race cars are built.
Carol Shelby is referenced as part of the same Southern California racing circle. Shelby’s name carries weight because he’s strongly associated with performance engineering and racing success, which aligns with the episode’s theme of building and racing cars.
TransM class
"And, and I always kind of gravitated to TransM as a young kid, because it started in 1966... I love this class because it's, it innovates... you have to make certain safety standards and rules like the TransM class."
They’re referring to the Trans Am racing class. It’s a set of rules for what kinds of cars can race and what safety equipment they must have, but it still leaves room for teams to build and improve their cars.
The speaker is talking about the Trans Am (often shortened to “TransM”) racing class, which has its own rules and safety standards. In this context, the class is portrayed as a place where teams can innovate within the rulebook rather than being forced into a single, identical setup.
innovation is welcome in this class
"And I love this class because it's, it innovates, innovation is welcome in this class... When you say innovation is allowed and expected, what does that look like?"
They’re talking about whether racing rules allow teams to experiment. The point is: some series are very strict, but this one is described as more open to new ideas.
This is a discussion about how innovation is handled in the Trans Am class compared to other series. The hosts are essentially debating how strict the rulebook is and what kinds of changes teams are allowed to make.
safety standards and rules
"I love this class because it's, it innovates... I mean, you have to make certain safety standards and rules like the TransM class."
Even when racing allows creativity, there are rules meant to keep people safe. Those rules usually cover how the car is built and what safety gear it must have.
Racing “safety standards and rules” are the mandatory requirements that keep drivers and crews protected while still allowing competition. These typically cover things like car construction requirements, driver protection, and track-legal equipment.
cookie cutter kind of class
"Well, it's the only class other than off road that I know of that isn't a cookie cutter kind of class. It's, it lets your, it lets your dreams..."
They mean a racing series where everyone builds the same kind of car. Here, they’re saying Trans Am isn’t like that—it lets teams try different approaches.
A “cookie cutter” class is one where cars are essentially identical or heavily standardized, limiting engineering creativity. The speaker contrasts that with Trans Am, which they say allows more variation so teams can pursue different ideas within the rules.
technology helps drive all that
"And, and technology helps drive all that because things change as, as brakes get better, engines get better, tire grip gets better, aerodynamics and whatnot."
They’re saying racing gets better as technology improves. Better brakes, engines, tires, and aerodynamics all help the car go faster and handle better.
The speaker attributes performance and competitiveness to technology improvements across multiple areas: brakes, engines, tire grip, and aerodynamics. This is a key idea in motorsport—incremental advances in each subsystem can compound into faster lap times and better control.
3 Three Wheeler
"... Let's start with this guy. I, first of all, this three wheeler. We need to talk about that at some point. Three..."
A three-wheeler is a vehicle that has three wheels instead of four. Because it has fewer wheels, it can handle and feel different than a normal car. The podcast is likely setting up a deeper explanation of how it works or why it’s notable.
A three-wheeler is a vehicle with two wheels in front or behind and one wheel on the opposite end, instead of the usual four. It’s often discussed because the driving feel and stability characteristics are different from a standard car, and it can be a unique niche vehicle. In the podcast, the host is flagging it as something worth talking about separately.
Road race, GT1 type class car
"I've currently built 50 Trans-Am cars, uh, road race, you know, GT1 type, that class car. Like the over your career? Yeah."
“GT1 type” is shorthand for a high-performance grand touring-style race category. In practice, it usually implies a focus on aerodynamic efficiency, cooling capacity, and chassis setup to handle sustained cornering speeds—more like endurance/GT racing than short sprint touring-car racing.
chassis program
"because I went to work for Dale Earnhardt and I started the chassis program and it just, it flourished into some other things. Well, that whole, that whole process ended in 2008 when the company more or less imploded"
A chassis program is the development effort focused on the race car’s structure and dynamics—things like frame design, suspension geometry, stiffness, and how the car transfers loads. In racing, the chassis is often the foundation that determines how well the engine and aero can actually perform on track.
generation three weaver
"this is the fourth car of this new design, which I call the generation three weaver. And I wanted to be in their face. I wanted to be in their face with performance."
“Generation three” indicates an iterative design evolution—major updates to the race car’s architecture and/or systems compared with earlier versions. Calling it a “Weaver” generation suggests the guest’s own development lineage and a structured approach to improving performance and integration over time.
cost about $100,000 less than the competitors
"I wanted to be in their face with performance. I wanted to be in their face to build a vehicle that cost about $100,000 less than the competitors. And I wanted to be in their face with the sound of the engine and the color of the car."
He’s talking about building a race car for less money than other teams. In racing, spending less can mean smarter design choices so you still get good performance.
This is a race-car value proposition: delivering similar or better performance while reducing build cost. In motorsports, cost targets can drive design choices—simplifying parts, changing fabrication methods, or focusing engineering effort where it gives the biggest lap-time return.
sound of the engine
"And I wanted to be in their face to build a vehicle that cost about $100,000 less than the competitors. And I wanted to be in their face with the sound of the engine and the color of the car. I mean, the whole thing was to be, to be noticed, right?"
He’s emphasizing that the car should sound impressive. In racing, exhaust and engine tuning can change the noise you hear.
“Sound of the engine” in a racing context often relates to exhaust design, intake/exhaust tuning, and how the engine’s character is perceived by fans and drivers. It can also be influenced by packaging choices and how the car is allowed to run within series rules.
180 degree header system
"[405.9s] it's a 180 degree header system. It's pretty difficult to build because of tight constraints and whatnot. But I'm glad I did it because it, once we heard it, it was just like, wow,"
A header is part of the exhaust that collects gases from the engine and routes them into the rest of the exhaust. A “180 degree” setup means the pipes are shaped to turn gases in a specific way, which can change both performance and the sound you hear.
An “180 degree header system” refers to the exhaust header piping layout that routes exhaust gases through a tight, specific bend geometry. In racing, header design strongly affects sound and scavenging, so changing the layout can make the car noticeably louder and more distinctive.
tight constraints (for building a race exhaust)
"[405.9s] it's a 180 degree header system. It's pretty difficult to build because of tight constraints and whatnot. But I'm glad I did it because it, once we heard it, it was just like, wow,"
Race parts aren’t just designed on paper—they have to physically fit in the car. “Tight constraints” means there’s very little room or flexibility, so building the part takes more work.
The speaker emphasizes that packaging and fabrication constraints make certain racing components—like a specialized header—hard to build. This highlights how race car development is often limited by space, mounting points, heat clearance, and rules, not just engineering theory.
paint scheme
"[433.8s] year five starting year six with this car and this paint scheme and this pro this team in this program. And, uh, so it's kind of becoming an iconic, uh, people relate to it now."
A paint scheme is the specific color layout and graphics pattern used on a race car. In motorsports, it’s part of branding and fan recognition, and it can become “iconic” when repeated across seasons.
Menard yellow
"[449.1s] was about to say, yeah. Uh, which by the way, though, you know, on the color scheme, like it's [452.4s] just bright in your face, like you said. Bright Menard yellow. And there's a story behind that, too."
Menard yellow is a bright yellow color tied to the Menards brand. Race teams often use sponsor colors so people can recognize them quickly.
“Menard yellow” is a color associated with the Menards brand and its racing presence. In motorsports, sponsor colors often become part of a team’s visual identity, helping fans instantly recognize the car.
STP
"[462.1s] kind of a red, uh, orange, you know, fluorescent red, orange STP stuff. And, uh, so he's down to paint shop buying materials to paint these cars..."
STP is a brand that has sponsored racing for a long time. When you see “STP” on a race car, it usually means that company was a sponsor.
STP is a well-known automotive brand that has historically sponsored racing teams and cars. Sponsor decals like “STP” are part of classic race livery and can help identify the era and backing behind a car’s program.
test day (development and learning)
"[507.8s] he was the first driver to drive this car when it was new along with Boris said, we did a test day out in Virginia and the two of them, you know, thrashed this thing pretty, pretty roughly, uh, for the first day and we learned, we learned, you know, we developed it basically at that particular"
A test day is when a race team goes out to try the car and learn what works. They drive it hard to find problems and improve the car before real races.
A “test day” is a dedicated session where drivers and engineers evaluate a new or updated race car. The speaker describes how the first drivers thrashed the car and they used that feedback to develop the car’s setup and behavior.
Virginia test day
"[513.4s] out in Virginia and the two of them, you know, thrashed this thing pretty, pretty roughly, uh, for the first day and we learned, we learned, you know, we developed it basically at that particular"
They mention a test session in Virginia where the team worked on the car. It’s part of the story of how the car was developed.
The hosts discuss a specific test day location in Virginia, tied to early development of the Trans Am car. This is a structural detail about where the team did initial shakedown work.
all-round tube construction (round tube chassis)
"So nobody was building all round tube construction, which the whole chassis being round instead of square... With the round, you can actually... CNC bend the frame where there's multiple angle changes."
Instead of building the frame from square tubes, they used round tubes. Round tubes usually handle twisting forces better, which helps the car stay more stable under load.
The host is describing a chassis made from round tubes instead of the more common square/rectangular tubing. Round tubes can be bent and joined with fewer complex weld joints, and they tend to resist twisting (torsion) more effectively than square tube in similar packaging.
miter joint
"But every time you have an angle change, there's a miter joint and a weld, a butt weld basically."
A miter joint is a connection where two pieces are cut at angles (like a corner) so they meet at a specific angle before welding. In square-tube frames, frequent angle changes can require more miter joints, which can add weld complexity and potential weak points.
butt weld
"But every time you have an angle change, there's a miter joint and a weld, a butt weld basically."
A butt weld is when two metal pieces are joined directly end-to-end. More joints can mean more welding work and more places where strength depends on the weld quality.
A butt weld joins two pieces end-to-end, typically after cutting them to match the required shape. In chassis fabrication, the more joints you need, the more welding you have to do, which can affect consistency and strength.
CNC bend
"through CAD, you can CNC bend the frame where there's multiple angle changes... where that would normally be a cut, a miter, and a butt weld on a square tube."
CNC bending is a machine-controlled way to bend metal tubes very precisely. It lets you make the frame shape without as many cut-and-weld joints.
CNC bending uses computer-controlled machinery to bend tubes to exact angles and radii. This matters for round-tube chassis builds because it enables multiple angle changes without cutting and welding mitered sections.
torsional stiffness
"And it's a lot stronger torsionally because round is very resistant to torsion, where square is... And it was over double the torsional stiffness in a torsion test."
Torsional stiffness is how resistant a chassis is to twisting forces. Higher torsional stiffness generally improves handling consistency because suspension and alignment geometry stay more stable when the car loads up over bumps and during cornering.
sway bars
"So that's why sway bars are round. They're not square... it's just that torsionally, it's so much more sound."
A sway bar helps keep the car from leaning too much in corners. The host is saying round shapes help the bar resist twisting forces.
Sway bars (anti-roll bars) reduce body roll by transferring load between the left and right sides of the suspension. The host notes that sway bars are round, tying the shape choice to torsional behavior—round sections resist twisting more effectively than square.
coil over shocks
"So basically, these cars are sprung through shock, a coil over shocks. So all the load of the corner is going through those shock points, the upper shock points."
A coil-over is basically a spring and a shock absorber working together. The spring supports the car, and the shock controls how fast the car moves up and down so it stays planted in turns.
Coil-over shocks are suspension units that combine a coil spring and a shock absorber in one package. They let teams tune ride height and how quickly the suspension compresses and rebounds under load, which is crucial for cornering grip and stability.
sprung through shock
"So basically, these cars are sprung through shock, a coil over shocks. So all the load of the corner is going through those shock points, the upper shock points."
“Sprung” just means the car’s suspension is doing the work of supporting the car. Instead of the tires taking everything, the springs and shocks share the load, especially when you corner.
“Sprung” refers to how the car’s weight is supported by the suspension rather than directly by the tires. When the speaker says the cars are “sprung through shock,” they mean the suspension components (springs/shocks) carry the cornering loads and manage how the chassis moves.
recoil
"So the reduction of coil or wrap up has the reverse effect of that is to recoil. So like when you push a car down with the spring, it wants to shoot back up because of the spring."
Recoil is the car’s bounce-back after it squats or compresses in a turn. If it bounces back too slowly or too much, you have to wait before you can put power down confidently.
In this context, “recoil” is the chassis/suspension rebound after being compressed or loaded in a corner. The speaker links reducing chassis “wrap up” to reducing recoil timing, which affects how quickly the car can transition and apply throttle.
wrap up (chassis)
"But yet the chassis is wanting to coil and wrap up. Like anything coils and wraps up, right? So the reduction of coil or wrap up has the reverse effect of that is to recoil."
“Wrap up” is how much the frame flexes when you load it in a corner. If the chassis flexes less, the car usually feels more controlled and you can get on the gas sooner.
“Wrap up” describes how much the chassis deforms (twists/bends) under cornering forces. Less wrap up means the suspension doesn’t have to “fight” as much chassis movement, which can reduce rebound delay and improve how quickly the car settles for acceleration.
chassis twisting
"Well, on a chassis twisting, you don't have shocks to control the reaction of the twist. So less twist, less recoil."
When you turn hard, the car’s frame can twist like a wrench. If it twists too much, the wheels don’t stay in the best position, and the car feels less stable.
Chassis twisting is when the frame or body deforms in a twisting motion under cornering loads. In racing, reducing unwanted twist helps keep the suspension geometry consistent, which improves tire contact and predictability.
rolling up into the corner
"Okay. So when I, when these cars, when this car goes into a corner, it's rolling up into the corner, it's absorbing the inertia and the G load..."
This is the car leaning as you start turning. The amount and speed of that lean changes how the tires grip and how the car feels when you turn in.
“Rolling up into the corner” describes the car’s body roll as it transitions from straight-line driving into cornering. How quickly and how much the car rolls affects weight transfer, tire loading, and ultimately traction and steering response.
G load
"it's rolling up into the corner, it's absorbing the inertia and the G load and the cars wanting to roll and it has resistance through that."
G load is just how hard the car is being pushed in a direction—like how strong the forces feel when you corner. More cornering G means the suspension and tires are working harder.
G load is a way to describe the acceleration forces acting on the car and driver, expressed in “g” (multiples of gravity). Higher cornering G load increases suspension and chassis stresses, affecting grip, tire load, and how the car transitions through a turn.
first set / second set (suspension settling)
"This car will take a set, a lot of cars take a first set and you have to wait for that first set to react to the recoil. And then the second set, you can really get with the throttle..."
The “first set” is the car’s initial bounce/settling when you load it in the turn. The “second set” is what happens after it finishes that movement—when the car is ready to hook up and accelerate.
The “first set” and “second set” refer to how the car settles after initial compression and rebound when entering a corner. If the chassis takes time to react to recoil, drivers may need to wait before applying full throttle; if it settles immediately, the car can accelerate earlier and more consistently.
round tube versus square tube
"It was really, it was a total science project. It was really, it's very basic though. I mean, you know, round tube versus square tube, that's, that's not that difficult to comprehend."
This is about the shape of the metal tubes in the car’s frame or cage. Different shapes can make the structure stiffer in different ways, which can help the car stay more stable in corners.
Round vs. square tubing refers to frame/roll-cage material geometry. Tube shape changes stiffness and how the structure resists bending and torsion, which can influence chassis “wrap up,” ride behavior, and handling consistency.
Chevrolet Corvette
"buying challenges anymore. They're just buying Corvettes and Camaros. So yeah, they just announced"
They’re talking about the Chevrolet Corvette. It’s a sports car that many people buy because it’s built for performance and there are lots of parts and upgrades available.
The hosts mention Chevrolet Corvettes as a mainstream purchase choice. In racing and enthusiast circles, the Corvette is known for being a performance-focused sports car with strong aftermarket support.
Chevrolet Camaro
"buying challenges anymore. They're just buying Corvettes and Camaros. So yeah, they just announced the Camaros coming back too."
They’re also talking about the Chevrolet Camaro. It’s a performance car with a big enthusiast following, so it’s common to hear it mentioned alongside other racing-oriented cars.
The transcript references Chevrolet Camaros as another popular sports-car purchase. The Camaro has a long performance and racing history, which is why it comes up in discussions about chassis and competition.
dodge challengers
"give a big shout out there for the dodge challengers, you guys, come on. Yeah, hopefully we see something in that department, but that's a whole, again,"
They’re mentioning the Dodge Challenger. It’s a muscle car people like for its power and style, and there are lots of upgrades available.
The hosts give a shout-out to Dodge Challenger buyers. The Challenger is a muscle-car platform, and its popularity is often tied to straight-line performance and strong aftermarket support.
mechanical grip
"The next was geometry. I wanted more mechanical grip through mechanics, through engineering. And my engineer said, you know, that'd be great."
Mechanical grip is how well the tires can “grab” the road because of the car’s suspension and how it loads the tires. It’s the kind of grip you feel when the car sticks through turns even without downforce.
Mechanical grip refers to traction generated by the tire’s contact with the road through suspension geometry and tire loading, not aerodynamic downforce. In chassis design, improving mechanical grip often means optimizing suspension geometry, compliance, and how weight transfers under cornering.
steering rack
"the suspension has to, it dictates where the steering rack is basically going to be living in elevation in the car. And the motor happens to be in the way, you know. Currently, in these earlier years, we had the steering rack underneath the front drives"
The steering rack is the mechanism that turns your steering wheel into the wheels turning left or right. Where it sits in the car matters because it can affect how the car behaves over bumps.
The steering rack is the component that converts the driver’s steering input into left/right wheel movement. Its position relative to the suspension travel affects handling—moving it can change how much bump steer the car develops.
uprights
"And then it would go to, you know, to the uprights and that kind of thing. So, and you don't want a lot,"
Uprights are parts near the wheel that help connect the suspension to the wheel. Their position affects how the wheel moves and how the steering feels.
In racing chassis layouts, uprights are the knuckles that connect the suspension components to the wheel hubs. Their location and relationship to the steering rack and suspension arms strongly influence steering behavior and bump steer.
bump steer
"So, and you don't want a lot, you don't want any bump steer, if any, you know, it's got to be minimal. So that's that chatter that you see in a driver's cockpit when you're, he's being filmed and you see that wheel just chattering"
Bump steer is when hitting bumps makes the steering wheel turn by itself. Good suspension design keeps that from happening so the car stays predictable.
Bump steer is when the suspension geometry causes the steering to change direction as the wheels move over bumps. It’s especially critical in racing because it can make the car feel twitchy and harder to control at the limit.
knife edge
"It's also, you know, saving the car, they're holding the car on a knife edge, you know, from losing the car off the racetrack to keeping it on the racetrack."
“Knife edge” is a driving/handling concept describing a car balanced right at the limit of grip. When a car is on the knife edge, small inputs or disturbances can cause it to lose the line, so the driver and chassis must manage stability precisely.
sequential transmissions
"When you get to a certain level in a build, whether it be drag racing or drifting, road course, or just the badass streetcar, you'll have to upgrade your transmission. And when we're talking sequential transmissions..."
A sequential transmission means you shift up or down in order, like a step-by-step gearbox. Race cars like it because it can make shifting quicker and more consistent when you’re driving hard.
A sequential transmission lets you shift in order (up/down) without the “H-pattern” of a traditional manual. In racing, it’s valued for faster, more consistent shifts and better drivability under load, especially with clutchless or quick-shift setups.
FD field
"And the proof is in the pudding here, folks, half the FD field is rocking a 6XD and even 3000 horsepower vipers..."
“FD” is Formula Drift, a major drifting competition. Saying the “FD field” uses a certain gearbox is basically saying it’s common among drivers who really beat on their cars.
“FD” refers to Formula Drift, a professional drifting series known for sustained high-angle slides and heavy drivetrain loads. Mentioning the “FD field” is a way to claim the gearbox is battle-tested in that specific environment.
CAD
"But through CAD, we could see where those closenesses were and we could project it, we could cycle it and we could make sure that it wasn't hitting..."
CAD is a computer program for designing parts. Instead of guessing, you can test fitment virtually to make sure things clear and don’t hit when the car moves.
CAD (Computer-Aided Design) is software used to model parts in 3D before anything is built. Here it’s used to check tight clearances, simulate suspension/part movement (“cycle it”), and ensure components won’t contact each other.
center of gravity
"Then overall, we just work really hard on trying to keep the center of gravity down low. Every part and piece you make, you're thinking about weight to try to keep your overall weight down."
Your car’s center of gravity is basically where the weight “balances.” If you lower it, the car tends to feel more stable and less likely to tip around in corners.
Center of gravity (CoG) is the point where the car’s weight effectively balances. Lowering the CoG improves handling because it reduces body roll and makes the car more stable during cornering, braking, and acceleration.
ballast
"Every part and piece you make, you're thinking about weight to try to keep your overall weight down. Then you can add weight, you know, with, you know, ballast and you can put it where you want it."
Ballast is extra weight you add on purpose. Racers use it to meet rules or to help the car handle better by putting the weight in the right spot.
Ballast is added weight placed intentionally to hit a target weight or to tune balance and handling. In racing, where rules may require a minimum weight, ballast placement (not just total weight) can be used to adjust how the car behaves.
14 inches of rear rubber
"Yeah, with more motor, more aero, more rubber, we've got 14 inches of rear rubber, 13 inches of front rubber, we're two inches off the ground..."
They’re talking about how wide the tires are. Wider tires usually grip the road better, but the car still has to be set up correctly so it doesn’t spin or slide.
This is a tire-width specification for the rear axle, used to increase the size of the contact patch. Wider tires can provide more grip, but they also require careful setup and driving to manage traction and wear.
aero
"Yeah, with more motor, more aero, more rubber, we've got 14 inches of rear rubber, 13 inches of front rubber, we're two inches off the ground, roughly 900 horsepower, 600 foot pounds of torque..."
Aero is how the car’s shape interacts with the air. The right aero setup can push the car down onto the tires for better grip and faster cornering.
“Aero” refers to aerodynamic effects—how the car’s shape and wings create downforce and reduce drag. In oval/road-course racing, aero strongly influences tire grip, stability, and ultimately lap times.
two inches off the ground
"...we've got 14 inches of rear rubber, 13 inches of front rubber, we're two inches off the ground, roughly 900 horsepower, 600 foot pounds of torque..."
That’s how low the race car sits to the track. Sitting lower can help the car stick better, but if it’s too low it can hit the ground.
“Two inches off the ground” describes ride height, which affects aerodynamic downforce and tire clearance. Lower ride height can increase aero efficiency and stability, but it also increases the risk of scraping or bottoming out.
900 horsepower
"...two inches off the ground, roughly 900 horsepower, 600 foot pounds of torque, a little bit over 600 foot pounds. It's just, it's like a monster."
Horsepower is how strong the engine is. More horsepower can help you go faster, but you still need enough tire grip to use it effectively.
Horsepower is a measure of engine power output, which affects acceleration and top speed potential. In racing, it’s only part of the story—how that power is delivered to the tires (and how much grip you have) determines lap time.
600 foot pounds of torque
"...roughly 900 horsepower, 600 foot pounds of torque, a little bit over 600 foot pounds. It's just, it's like a monster. So the trick is to tame the monster..."
Torque is the engine’s pulling strength. It helps the car accelerate, but if it’s too much for the tires, the car can lose grip.
Torque is the twisting force the engine produces, especially important for acceleration out of corners. High torque can improve driveability, but it also makes traction management critical to avoid wheelspin and instability.
tame the monster
"So that's what it's all about. And we've been working trying to get some of these younger drivers to come up to the ranks that want to go to NASCAR. And so this is a good test bed... the trick is to tame the monster, you know, keep the monster on the track, keep your lap times down, keep it clean."
A race car can have so much power and grip that it feels hard to control. The goal is to drive smoothly so the tires keep traction and the car doesn’t get loose or slow you down.
The speaker is describing how high-power, high-grip race cars feel overwhelming until the driver manages them smoothly. In practice, “taming” means controlling traction and stability so the car stays planted and consistent lap after lap.
driver coaching area and a car coaching area
"And we've been working trying to get some of these younger drivers to come up to the ranks that want to go to NASCAR. And so this is a good test bed. This is a proven grounds. This is a driver coaching area and a car coaching area where you can feel that power."
They’re saying this series is like a training ground. Drivers learn how to handle the car better, and teams learn how to set the car up so it performs more consistently.
They’re framing the series/class as a development platform where both driver technique and car setup are refined. The idea is that consistent feedback from testing and coaching helps teams improve performance and prepare drivers for higher-level NASCAR competition.
proven grounds
"And so this is a good test bed. This is a proven grounds. This is a driver coaching area and a car coaching area where you can feel that power."
They mean this is a proving/testing place. You learn and improve in real race-like conditions before stepping up to bigger competition.
“Proven grounds” here means a place where cars and drivers are tested under real racing conditions to validate performance and readiness. It’s essentially a development pipeline before moving up to higher NASCAR levels.
Daytona
"This car makes more power, more grip than any NASCAR program right now. It's faster than a cup car. It's faster than an Xfinity, faster than a truck. I mean, you're three categories there. This car at Daytona does 206 at the start and finish line..."
They’re talking about Daytona as the track where they measured how fast the car is. Different tracks change how the car’s power and grip show up.
Daytona is being used as the reference track for speed and performance comparisons. Track layout and surface characteristics strongly affect how power, aero, and tires translate into lap time.
NASCAR engine
"Oh, no, I mean, lap time. Oh, lap time. Yeah, sorry. Oh, gosh. That's a long track... And then you said this is a NASCAR engine then? Yeah, this class lets you use previous NASCAR engines..."
They’re talking about the engine rules for NASCAR. This class allows older NASCAR-style engines, which affects how the car makes power and how teams tune it.
The speaker is discussing an engine rule set tied to NASCAR, specifically what engines are allowed in this class. Using prior NASCAR engines changes performance characteristics and development focus compared with the newest NASCAR powerplant.
NASCAR Cup cars
"So these engines are from Penske when they ran the Dodge program in their cup cars with Rusty and Jeremy Mayfield."
In NASCAR, the “Cup” level is the top, most competitive series. The speaker is saying the engine tech they’re using traces back to that top-level Dodge racing program.
“Cup cars” refers to the top-tier NASCAR national series cars (historically the NASCAR Cup Series). The speaker is using that context to explain where the engines came from—Penske’s Dodge program in the Cup era.
Penske
"So there was a room full of these engines that we've been buying over the years, and they have R5, and then we were allowed to use the R6... So these engines are from Penske when they ran the Dodge program in their cup cars..."
Penske is a well-known NASCAR team. They also help with race-engine programs, so the engines mentioned here are tied to their Dodge racing history.
Penske is a major NASCAR racing team and engine program partner. In this segment, the host is saying the race engines used in their program came from Penske’s Dodge cup-car era.
R6 Dodge design
"...they have R5, and then we were allowed to use the R6, so now we're into the R6 Dodge design. And that was, I believe that that's the last Dodge NASCAR engines that were built at the time..."
R6 is a newer allowed version of the race engine. When rules let you use a newer version, it can change how the car performs and how teams set up the rest of the program.
“R6” is the next engine design revision the team was allowed to use, and the speaker ties it specifically to the Dodge NASCAR engine direction. This matters because engine rules and allowed updates can affect performance, reliability, and how teams plan development.
R5
"So there was a room full of these engines that we've been buying over the years, and they have R5, and then we were allowed to use the R6, so now we're into the R6 Dodge design."
“R5” refers to a specific iteration of a NASCAR engine design used under the rules at the time. The speaker contrasts it with “R6,” implying a newer/allowed configuration within their Dodge NASCAR program.
Sebring
"...and now we've got Kaley Bryson, who's just a young lady, 25 years old, and she's just done an awesome job at Sebring. We did a test. We did actually the race after that..."
Sebring refers to the Sebring International Raceway in Florida, a famous endurance/road-racing venue. The speaker uses it as a reference point for a driver’s performance, indicating the driver has succeeded in high-profile road-course competition.
points
"...Atlanta race, and she's done quite well. I think she's third in points right now. Oh, wow, okay."
“Points” are the season-long scoring totals that determine standings in NASCAR. The speaker is using the driver’s points position (third or possibly fourth) to gauge how competitive the program is.
Atlanta race
"...We did actually the race after that, a few weeks after that. And then we did Atlanta race, and she's done quite well. I think she's third in points right now."
“Atlanta race” refers to a NASCAR event at Atlanta Motor Speedway, used here as a benchmark for the driver’s points position. Points standings after specific races are a common way teams measure progress.
driver development program
"So this is, we're trying to maybe work towards a driver development program. Boris is an awesome coach, and has coached most all the NASCAR guys on road course..."
A driver development program is like a training pipeline for racing talent. Instead of just putting someone in a car, you coach them and give them chances to improve step by step.
A driver development program is a structured effort to train and advance less-experienced drivers through coaching, testing, and race opportunities. The speaker frames it as a way to bring newcomers along, leveraging coaching and existing team resources.
road course
"...Boris is an awesome coach, and has coached most all the NASCAR guys on road course, the road course talent. And so he's behind... trying to help the newcomers come along..."
A road course is a type of race track with lots of corners, not just left turns on an oval. It usually demands different driving skills, so coaches focus on that style.
“Road course” racing uses tracks with turns of varying radius, unlike oval-only racing. The speaker mentions Boris coaching NASCAR road-course talent, and ties it to how newcomers are being developed.
saves his tires
"...he's really easy on equipment. And he's, he's very methodical about how he runs his race. He saves his tires, he has something for the end. And that's how we've done really well..."
“Saving tires” means managing tire wear so the car remains fast later in the race. The speaker credits Boris’s methodical approach—preserving tire grip early to have performance at the end—leading to frequent podiums.
Trans-Am
"that are looking to come from Emsa GT type racing, come into Trans-Am, try to make their home with Trans-Am, try to build that class again and get up to the 35 car field count, you know, entries."
Trans-Am is a road-racing series where cars compete under a specific rule set and class structure. The speaker discusses rebuilding the class and growing participation toward a target “car field” size, highlighting how entry counts affect the health of the series.
Emsa GT type racing
"that are looking to come from Emsa GT type racing, come into Trans-Am, try to make their home with Trans-Am, try to build that class again"
This is about a different kind of racing where “GT” cars compete. The speaker is saying some drivers are coming from that background into Trans-Am.
“Emsa GT type racing” refers to GT racing in the style associated with IMSA/EMSA-era GT categories. The speaker is describing newcomers transitioning from that kind of GT racing into Trans-Am, which implies differences in car rules, competition style, and development priorities.
car field count
"try to build that class again and get up to the 35 car field count, you know, entries. What is that now? We struggled to get 12."
Field count is just how many cars actually show up to race. More cars usually means more competition and a better event overall.
“Car field count” refers to how many cars are entered for a race. In series like Trans-Am, field size impacts competitiveness, scheduling, and whether the event feels worthwhile for teams and fans.
race smart
"We try to approach it a different way because we don't have the finances that those big teams have. So we, we try to race smart. We try to, we build our stuff. We don't buy it."
Race smart means you don’t just spend money—you make good decisions. With less budget, you focus on the choices that give the biggest payoff.
“Race smart” here means managing limited resources by focusing on efficient development and strategy rather than copying what the biggest teams can afford. The speaker contrasts their approach with teams that have larger budgets and full-time operations.
build our stuff. We don't buy it.
"So we, we try to race smart. We try to, we build our stuff. We don't buy it. We sell it to other teams as well."
They’re saying they make their own racing parts instead of buying ready-made ones. That can save money and also let them tailor the car to how they race.
This describes an in-house build strategy: developing and fabricating their own race components rather than purchasing turnkey solutions. In motorsports, that can reduce costs, improve control over setup, and create parts that can be sold to other teams.
Baja 1000
"I started in off-road. Stadium racing and off-road was my big deal. The Baja 1000, the Baja 500, the Mint 400, all the, all the big, big races out in the desert, Southern California was the perfect place for that."
The Baja 1000 is one of the most famous off-road desert races in North America, known for long-distance endurance and rough terrain. Mentioning it (along with other Baja events) frames the speaker’s background as endurance-focused off-road racing rather than circuit-only competition.
Baja 500
"The Baja 1000, the Baja 500, the Mint 400, all the, all the big, big races out in the desert, Southern California was the perfect place for that."
The Baja 500 is another big off-road desert race. Like the Baja 1000, it’s about endurance and handling rough terrain.
The Baja 500 is another major desert off-road race, typically shorter than the Baja 1000 but still endurance-heavy and demanding on vehicles and drivers. It reinforces the speaker’s desert-racing pedigree and the kinds of durability challenges they’re used to.
Lake Norman
"We live here on, on a huge lake. It's gotten about 500 coast miles, Lake Norman. It's just above Charlotte, about 30, not quite 30 minutes maybe."
Lake Norman is a big lake near Charlotte, North Carolina. The guest is describing how living there makes it easy to go boating and enjoy the outdoors.
Lake Norman is a large man-made lake in North Carolina, just north of Charlotte. In the episode, it’s used to explain the hosts’ lifestyle—living near the water with easy access to boating.
shop (attached garage/workshop)
"This is about a two acre lot and, and we've got boat, you know, the boats in the backyard and it's, it's a three story house. So [1606.9s] the first story is shop. Yeah. You know, I should have probably built two stories of shop and one story house..."
They’re talking about a workshop space on the property. For car people, a shop is where you can work on vehicles, store tools, and do projects.
The guest describes a “shop” as a dedicated workshop space attached to the house. In automotive and racing circles, this kind of space is often where people store tools, work on cars, and handle maintenance or fabrication.
Barnum Minions
"Barnum, Barnum Minions are very popular. Oh yeah. Yeah. Very popular. So you started off and off-road then."
It sounds like a local group or shop nickname. The point is that in racing communities, there are often dedicated crews that help people build and maintain cars.
“Barnum Minions” sounds like a local shop/scene nickname for a group of car enthusiasts or mechanics. In a racing ecosystem, these kinds of crews and shops are where people learn fabrication, tuning, and race-prep skills.
TIG welder
"And he, they needed a welder and I happened to be a really good heliard, TIG welder at the time."
A TIG welder is a tool for welding metal very precisely. It’s popular in racing because it makes strong, clean welds for custom parts.
TIG welding (Tungsten Inert Gas) is a precise welding process that uses a tungsten electrode and inert gas to protect the weld. It’s common in motorsports fabrication because it produces clean, strong welds for roll cages, chassis components, and custom metalwork.
Formula 1, Formula 5,000, Indy car, midgets, dirt champ cars, drag racing, funny car, and top fuel
"And at that time, Parnelli was, had probably a hundred employees. They were Formula 1, Formula 5,000, Indy car, midgets, dirt champ cars, drag racing, funny car, and top fuel."
The guest lists a wide range of racing categories (open-wheel, dirt, and drag) to illustrate how broad the Parnelli operation was. For listeners, it highlights how skills and engineering approaches can transfer across very different types of racing.
trophy trucks
"And so they had a class in a trophy trucks. Walker Evans was a driver for Parnelli and the trophy truck, and they needed a co-pilot."
Trophy trucks are race trucks built for desert off-road events. They’re made to survive big bumps and jumps while staying fast.
Trophy trucks are purpose-built off-road race trucks designed for high-speed desert racing. They typically use long-travel suspension, strong tube-frame chassis, and large tires to handle jumps, washboard roads, and rough terrain.
co-pilot
"Walker Evans was a driver for Parnelli and the trophy truck, and they needed a co-pilot. So I'm way absolutely just about nothing. And they put me in there."
In off-road desert racing, a co-pilot (or navigator) helps manage pace, route information, and strategy—especially in events where navigation and timing matter as much as driving skill. The role can be critical for avoiding wrong turns and maintaining consistent performance over long distances.
single-seater
"And I was getting involved in off-road at the time with my own single-seater that I built."
A single-seater is a race car made for just one driver. Building one yourself is a common way racers learn how cars are built and how to make them work.
A single-seater is a race car designed for one driver, usually with a purpose-built chassis and safety structure. In grassroots-to-pro racing paths, building your own single-seater is often a way to learn fabrication, setup, and racecraft quickly.
Mickey Thompson Stadium series
"And then with the experience with Parnelli. And then moving on to with the Mickey Thompson Stadium series, he was doing like the Angel Stadium, Jack Murphy Stadium,"
The Mickey Thompson Stadium series refers to off-road racing events held in stadium-style venues, bringing desert-style vehicles to a more spectator-friendly format. These series helped popularize off-road racing by making it easier to watch and follow.
1977 Off-Road World Championship Grand Prix
"So go to 1977 Off-Road World Championship Grand Prix and on YouTube and you'll learn all about that error."
This is a specific off-road race from 1977. The host is basically saying you can look up the footage to see what racing was like back then.
The 1977 Off-Road World Championship Grand Prix is referenced as a specific historical off-road event. Episodes like this often point listeners to footage to understand the vehicles, track conditions, and racing culture of that era.
fabrication process
"Yeah. And getting a little more tricky with that and the outcome. A lot of people can, you give 10 different guys the same job to do and you're going to come up with probably seven different ways that it's being made."
They’re talking about fabrication—how parts get built and put together. The key idea is there isn’t only one “right” way, as long as it works well and looks decent.
The speaker discusses fabrication as a process where multiple skilled people can produce different solutions for the same job. They emphasize the tradeoff between making something functional and making it aesthetically pleasing, especially in performance builds.
no lift shift
"Yeah, with no lift shift, you hold your foot down full throttle and just pull a stick. No clutch, nothing. Just grab it and go."
No lift shift means you don’t back off the gas when you shift. The car keeps making power through the gear change, so it accelerates harder.
No lift shift is a racing technique where the driver does not reduce throttle when upshifting. That keeps engine torque applied during the shift, improving acceleration and reducing the “gap” in power.
Enthmodo
"Oh yeah. And because Enthmodo does those and they run the 6XDs. And it was just, it's such a crazy, crazy experience in those with no lift shift and everything."
Enthmodo is mentioned as the group that does the transmission work behind the “6XD” experience. They’re basically associated with the racing tech that lets you shift without lifting off the gas.
Enthmodo is referenced as a company that builds/works with the 6XD-style setups used in racing transmissions. In this segment, they’re credited with doing the kind of clutchless, no-lift-shift behavior being discussed.
reverse lockout
"But they came to see me about a reverse lockout. And I was doing an electronic reverse lockout at the time for a different transmission."
A reverse lockout is a safety/control feature that stops you from accidentally putting the car into reverse. It helps protect the transmission from being shifted into the wrong gear at the wrong time.
A reverse lockout is a transmission control feature that prevents unintended selection of reverse (often to avoid damaging the gearbox). The speaker says they were working on an electronic reverse lockout for a different transmission when the racing transmission people came to talk.
four-speed NASCAR transmission
"...I moved into the four-speed NASCAR transmission because of its lack of huge expense. It's a dog ring transmission. It's what NASCAR used before they went to this new Gen 7."
This is a racing-style 4-speed transmission NASCAR used for a while. It’s chosen because it’s cheaper and fits the race car’s layout, not because it’s meant for everyday driving.
He’s describing a NASCAR-era four-speed gearbox used in racing before the newer Gen 7 rules. In this context, it’s a purpose-built transmission chosen for cost and packaging rather than comfort or refinement.
dog ring transmission
"...It's a dog ring transmission. It's what NASCAR used before they went to this new Gen 7."
A dog-ring transmission is a race gearbox that shifts gears with metal “clutches” that lock into place quickly. It doesn’t use the smooth synchronizers you’d find in most street cars.
A dog-ring transmission uses sliding “dog” engagement sleeves instead of synchronizers. That allows faster, more direct gear changes under heavy load, which is why it’s common in racing applications.
Gen 7
"...It's what NASCAR used before they went to this new Gen 7. And it's just a dog ring four-speed."
“Gen 7” refers to NASCAR’s next-generation vehicle/competition rules package that changed how cars are built and what components are used. When he says the dog-ring four-speed was used before Gen 7, he’s pointing to a rules-driven shift in transmission technology.
turn it on its side, rotate it 90 degrees
"...the light went on and said, God said, turn it on its side, dummy. I said, what? It's turn it on its side, rotate it 90 degrees... if I redo the oiling system and the shifter."
Instead of mounting the transmission the usual way, he rotated it so it fits better in the car. That can help with space and handling, but you have to redesign the oiling and shifting so it still works reliably.
He describes re-packaging the transmission by rotating it 90 degrees and changing the oiling system and shifter. This kind of layout change can improve clearance and lower the center of gravity, but it requires careful engineering so lubrication still works.
oil system
"...I guess I could do that if I redo the oiling system and the shifter. And so that's what I did."
If you rotate a transmission, the oil doesn’t naturally sit where it used to. The oil system has to be redesigned so the gears and bearings still get enough lubrication.
When a transmission is rotated, the lubrication/oil pickup and flow paths change. He notes he had to redo the oiling system so the gearbox would stay properly lubricated in the new orientation.
crank centerline
"...we've reduced the weight center of gravity. We've got clearance for the bottom of the car because we're five inches of clearance between the crank centerline and the bottom of the car."
This is a measurement reference point on the engine. He’s using it to explain how close the bottom of the car is to the ground so the car can be low without scraping.
The crank centerline is the reference height of the engine’s crankshaft. He uses it to describe how much ground clearance the car has, which matters for avoiding contact with the track while keeping the car low for aerodynamics and stability.
fifth gear
"...but it was four gears. And I was getting beat. Boris and I, and a couple of others, Menard, we were getting beat without having that fifth gear."
With only four gears, the engine may not stay in the best RPM range as often. Adding a fifth gear can help the car accelerate and maintain speed more effectively.
He’s explaining a performance limitation: with only four gears, the car can’t keep the engine in its optimal power band as effectively as competitors. That’s why he and others were “getting beat” until they added more gearing.
sequentials
"...we had several different sequentials to choose from. And from different price ranges and different weights..."
Sequential transmissions let the driver shift through gears in order (typically one gear at a time) rather than using an H-pattern. In racing, sequentials are valued for fast, consistent shifts under load.
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