Seabright Motors, Abandoned Porsche, and F1 2026 - DWA! Podcast Ep. #923

Where am I? And where are you?

Can you imagine his head being inside his little head?

Egocidal vehiculum.

There's no doubt. Correts are fast.

What about the people that put their fingers over the license plate?

Keiichi Tuchiya.

Those cars have such a cute little face, you know?

It's like a little salamander or something, you know?

I'm riding dirty right now.

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Welcome to Driving Well Awesome.

My name is Warren.

And my name is Lane.

Bart, we're back once again.

It's a real stormy day here in Santa Cruz.

Art was just telling us that he's got a different flow.

Different flow, you know, we're flowing onshore this time.

And no muffler on.

Not really muffler-less.

But he does have a hoodie.

He put his little red hoodie.

He looks like Kyu, dude, your little red hoodie.

Dude, I feel so cozy though right now.

Like just, I mean, thanks for bringing my hoodie up.

I forgot that I had a hood on me and I know it's good, man.

You're looking great, feeling good.

We just got done with a weekend in person, in real life, IRL.

No, IRL, all three of us, huh?

That's pretty impressive, dude.

Very rare.

Also rare that the three of us would have lunch together

only the three of us.

This is true.

Usually either we'd be fractioned,

you know, we'd be in different groups.

Or people would join us, you know, that type of thing.

That we were dangerously close to being joined by other people,

but somehow we managed to.

I just chill on our own.

Dangerously close.

We were so scared to be joined.

The things that could have happened, right?

I know, exactly.

It was so scary, dude.

Oh man, yeah.

It was a good time.

Yeah, we had a little Seabright Motors.

I think it was a great time because Art was up, obviously,

from Santa Barbara and had the E30 K-Swap.

Got a lot of attention.

Hood up, dude.

He said he was going to leave at one point, hour and a half later.

Oh, I know.

Ended up leaving.

I said bye to him.

I'm like, I'm going to go get coffee.

I'll see you later.

I know you're leaving.

And then I got done with a long coffee session

and Art's still there with the hood up.

Dude, hood's up for Harambe.

I was, yeah, it was great because a lot of questions,

a lot of interest, no hate.

You know, there was some hardcore Beamer heads there,

but no one was upset about it.

I thought, you know.

That's good.

Imagine hating on that.

No one threw pain at you or something.

They're like, shame.

The Bavarian blue, like, you know, on me, instead of the blood,

especially with a car like that, that just has like a really,

you know, pretty old school straight.

So it's not like a crown jewel.

Like how could you take that, you know, Ferrari engine out and do this?

I mean, admittedly, I would do it to an E30 M3, which has an S14,

which obviously that would be a little more shameful.

But yeah, these engines are not coveted at at all.

And then E30 M3 engines, they are expensive.

So that's, yeah, they're ridiculous and impossible to find, like get parts for.

I mean, not fine, but it's just everything is a process, right?

And it takes time.

And when it comes, you know, when, when you need componentry,

it's, it's all going to have to be, you know, ordered and blah, blah, blah,

where I was using that as an example, like on the rally,

when, when the map sensor failed on me, I literally just went to the

O'Reilly's down the street and got a TSX type S map sensor that they had on the

shelf, you know, and yeah, and the good news also is that

a lot of the stuff also is used on, on like the Honda Element or a Honda

Accord, because the K series was, it wasn't always super high strong, right?

There was different versions of them, but when it comes to sensors and like,

you know, just like gaskets, things like that, those are all the same.

So the, this was such a mass produced motor and used in so many different

chassis that you're bound to find stuff pretty easily if you need it.

That's nice.

Yeah.

And that, that leads me to why I'm putting a Chevy 350 in my 9-11.

On bring a trailer, there's a 9-14 with an LS swap.

I don't, I don't even get it.

I, how they do it, because I was picturing that the firewall on the

trunk side was going to be compromised and they would just bleed into that

whole area, the whole back of the car, right?

Like you would need so much space and no, it fits in the old, in the old area.

Yeah.

They don't, yeah.

They never punch out the truck, right?

Yeah.

That's a good point, which I just don't even know how you would.

I mean, yeah, this is that small, huh?

Well, yeah, it is known to be very compact, right?

That's like a big part of it.

Dude, real quick, very relevant.

So I was up there, you know, and I was staying in San Mateo at my in-last

place and they have a condo.

So downstairs, the, the, the subterranean floor, if you will, um, has

an underground parking garage, right?

For all the, all the tenants and, um, there is a 996 C4S in white over

navy blue that has been there since they moved there three years ago.

And it has the thickest layer of dust, you know, um, it's got a vanity

plates on it, expired tags and, uh, all original car, like, you know, no

modifications and, um, I'm like dangerously close to putting a fucking

note on this thing.

You know, so it's a quera at four S C4S wide body, which I love white

over blue.

That's why it over blue, dude.

So sick.

Um, and, um, of course I had, you know, how to, how to pull the car fax on it.

So one owner car, uh, and I, um, I started going down the path.

I'm like, okay, what if like, I get this for a deal, right?

Because it's been sitting.

It's going to need a lot of stuff.

And I kind of like have that conversation with the owner.

Obviously at that point, I'm just starting to think, okay, all the rubber,

all the hoses, all the stuff.

And I mean, I don't care for the M 96 anyways.

So I went down that, that rabbit hole of like punching it out to a four

leader, which then, you know, you eliminate the cylinder wall problems,

right?

Because you re sleeve it.

And so like all of the stuff, right?

And I'm like thinking, I'm like trying to justify it in my head.

I'm like, dude, this is only 25 grand.

If I get the car for 25.

So now you have this like super rad package that's reliable,

that has way more power and it's a really cool color combo.

But yeah, the motor's only, you know, $40,000 and no,

also, so the thing is labor is one thing.

But like there are, there's several different companies out there who make

these now.

I know that Patrick remember years ago, try to do this and it kept blowing up on

him, but like, I guess there's a good, there's, um, I figured there's some

good ones now that there's like, I forget what the guys are called,

but like B line did that, like a very basic looking cab and they put one

of those engines in it.

Yeah.

It was very pricey.

Um, and then it did have carbon carbon brakes.

Some of those C four S's were like, no, it doesn't.

It's, it's got a, yeah, I had red calipers.

So no, I'm just steel, but I really like the look of those cars.

When I see them, I'm very, it's just something about the subtlety.

Yeah, they're, they're the best looking 996 for sure.

Yeah.

They're so rad.

And so the other thing is like, um, when I went down this rabbit hole,

I found one on BAT that they did a four liter in it and they did.

And part of the whole deal is that you go over a well drive conversion.

So now like you got like a, like a high performance, high revving, four

liter NA rear wheel drive conversion, wide body, which is like such a rad package.

Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's just as easy as eliminating

the front axles, like they don't even have to do anything.

It's so simple.

It's, I think Gyarados are the same.

Maybe, um, yeah, like as easy.

It's just like literally taking the shit off.

Right, right.

There's not like a crazy, uh, computer issue or, and you're not ruining

anything or really like destroying it or it's all reversible.

Yeah, it's not compromised either.

It doesn't feel like if you had a, like a nine, six, four or C four, for example,

like you just kind of leave it, right?

A nine, nine, three with all wheel drive, like nine, nine, six might be the same.

You just sort of roll with it.

I mean, I mean, it's just overkill.

Like I don't, especially here.

I mean, ironically, we're talking about the stormiest day of the year.

I know what I'm saying.

It's like, but yeah, it's like so well, like to work together and they portion

knows all wheel drive and I don't think they're, they're known for like push,

being pushed, you know, pushing or driving like an all wheel drive car really.

So yeah, it's almost imperceptible, right?

Until you get on it out of a corner or something.

But if you're able to take away weight and stuff like that's where it's at.

Yeah, because I don't think any of us are like, it's like, Hey, a more nimble

makes more for a more nimble car and we will drive like sounds pretty fun, right?

Yeah, it does.

I guess I just, I don't want to try it on like a rally and see if I had any

problems with it because I don't think you'd be disappointed with the all

wheel. Such a good package.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

But the key there being is the way I was justifying it is like, it's because

it's a C four S is like cool looking one.

Like if it was a standard, yeah, six, you can get those for super cheap.

And in theory, you can throw 25, 30 grand at one.

And even if you just go with the three eight and just replace all the internal

stuff that fails, you know, because you do head work, you do the IMS, of course.

And then you'd re sleeve it for the because, you know, it has that chunking

failure, the, what do you call it?

Boar scoring.

Yeah, I was going to say score boring or score.

But yeah, you have to be a fan of that.

And then at that point, you're absolutely like if I'm saying this ironically

with my E 30, because I've spent so much money on it, but I don't really care

about the, you know, the return on it.

But like in that case with a nine and six, you're absolutely not getting your

fifty thousand dollars back on your twenty thousand dollar nine and six.

Right.

So no, but you might get it back on a C four S.

If you pay a small enough amount, right?

Right.

Yeah, there's money to be you start doing the math.

It's like if you can get it for twenty twenty five and those normally go for

thirty five forty in stock, look decent shape and then you invest X amount, but

it's also just that package like having that white over yachting blue.

And then you're making a wide body GT three, essentially at that point.

And it's like a pretty sick thing that never existed.

So yeah, we have they do look so good with that rear bump.

Those slits, those slats in the rear bumper.

It's like it looks kind of like a roof or something.

It's totally good looking.

And I would I'm controversial here, but I wish it had the early headlights.

That's the only thing that I would.

Yeah.

If it could made a C four S early days.

Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm neutral.

I mean, I don't mind them, but I know that I don't know if it's controversial there.

I think that a lot of people do prefer them.

Yeah, but here I just texted you guys, but it's like it's so sad, like the the

you can tell on the bumper there and the second picture I sent, like you can see

someone rubbed up against it, like look how much dust is on it and the hood is

like I sure as you with your crotch or anything do seriously.

I was like, oh, I was like rubbing like twerking on it.

We got that error code, by the way, on the dude warriors, license plate frame

and a personalized plate.

You might be up against something here.

I don't know.

I mean, do they know what they have and oh yeah, look at that catch me.

I love that catch.

Yeah.

It's a baseball thing.

Maybe and then or I don't know.

I guess you can catch a basketball too since they have a warriors license plate

frame, but it does have like original PPF on it.

It's all yellow.

And I mean that I mean I would obviously hit up auto works detailing for that,

but I always get like the stories on him like doing those because he knows I

appreciate that when he gets like a suburban with original like PPF and

it's the entire fucking thing and it's like, dude, look at this.

This is like the I'm charging this guy like thousands of dollars because it's

like a fucking nice car though.

It's like it's so nice.

It's perfect like it.

Yeah, like the tail lights aren't, you know, sometimes they get crazed and stuff

especially out and stored in there too.

It's pretty well.

Yeah.

It's been sitting in this thing for years, right?

So it's underground and it's, you know, it's very cool down there temperature

wise when nothing's getting baked and it's not in the sun.

The headlights aren't yellowed like, which is crazy, right?

Cause all of these are yellowed.

Nice.

Speaking of auto works detailing shout out to Kevin who moved over to Hayward,

right?

Is that where the shop is?

Yep.

Give auto works a call if you need some, some love.

I think he's still doing some mobile stuff, but East Bay people and South Bay

and all that get holler at your boy auto works on Instagram.

I think it's probably the easiest way.

W.E.R.K.

That's right.

Give him a give him a shout.

I wish he was closer to me because I would, I would use them all the time.

I got to get up there and see their shop anyway.

Want to check it out.

Now he like shares a shop space with Joe de Batista, right?

Yeah, that's right.

South City, South City, Rod and custom.

Yep.

South City.

It's pretty cool.

Yeah.

Um, well, we got some questions here.

You want to dive in, jump in, or do you want to cover anything from the weekend?

You tell me.

Um, let's go girl.

Oh, did you guys watch?

Did you guys follow F1 at all?

Have you guys followed?

I, you know what?

I have very little, but I did watch a great, um, uh, informational video about the

new regs, the new regulations.

Did you guys see that video?

It's very well produced on Apple TV.

No, I watched several, but it's been months like a kind of along the way.

Maybe this is older, but, uh, it just explains it very detailed with like

great renderings of like how the cars have shrunk and moved and where, like how

the battery systems work and everything.

I mean, it's down to, you know, uh, real small details and very well.

Was it the F1 guy, the black dude with the fro knows off camera narration.

And it was just really, yeah, it was in the AI video.

You're supporting that shit and it could have been.

I mean, dude, if it was, it was very well done.

A lot of prompts involved, but, uh, yeah, it was, uh, it's good.

Anyways, it's on Apple TV.

If you guys, I don't know if you have to pay to watch it, but, um, it was very

well, I think the cars look, they look good.

Um, I don't like, there's a little, you know, like Max was complaining about

that they're like formula E cars now kind of like a basically.

And you have to do so much stuff, uh, which I don't think any, you could, like

with Max complaining, you're like, he's probably the most apt to drive that

thing. Well, cause he's a, he's like a computer, a gamer, right?

He's a sim racer, but, uh, yeah, it's like there's a little, they definitely

sound way better this year, which is rad that is and they're smaller.

I'm excited for the start of the race because they have this crazy launch

procedure. So like how they have to spool up the turbo and so they have to

sit there like revving for a, for a long time, figure out that, that like process.

And then they're still figuring it out, right? Yeah.

Because it's really inconsistent.

They're saying how some guys can actually get going a lot quicker and some are

slower. So that's problematic, you know, at the start, if you're not, if your

car's not ready to take off.

So they're thinking about revisiting the regs and actually adding more time to

the start so that they have more start, more time to actually like get their

cars going. What about, um, like when you leave the pits, is that the similar

process or is that totally different? It is, right?

Same. Yeah, because that's always a little bit tricky too. I mean, they make it

look so easy, but man, getting the power down and, and like a maneuvering out of

their pit box and like getting, dude, it's, it's definitely something they're

trying to figure out right now. Yeah. Um, but I also just, it seems like the

overarching theme though is like way less grip, right? So that means the cars are

going to move around a lot more and, um, you know, some, some have complained

about it, right? I think it was, um, I don't know. I think it was, uh, uh, shoot.

What am I missing? I was there right now, uh, uh, or Russ. No, world champion, Alonzo.

So Lando Lando Lando. So yeah, Lando was saying how like he, he thinks it's

like sketchy that all of these guys with no grip or flying around a lot of

place. Dude, I think it's awesome. That's rad. Yeah. Cause it's all mechanical,

right? It's not, it's not as much. I mean, you have arrow on the top, but you

don't have the, the, the, what's it called? The, I think that's a funny take.

Like it's, there's just no grip. It's so dangerous. And yeah, you're like, well,

go slower than that. Yeah. I know it's, yeah, you're going to have to relearn

how to drive. You have to have car control. Cool. There's two new teams. Yeah.

For sure. Did you guys, the Cadillac, the livery launches like kind of

disappointing like that, that Cadillac livery, it's like, oh, the new livery.

And it's like they're, you know, it's like, whatever it is just black and

white Michael base suing them. Oh yeah. Cause it was supposedly his concept.

And then they went with another director and they just used the concept he came

up with. Oh, that's a classic move. Yeah. So like he was in talks to do it.

He came to them with a whole like, hey, here's what I do, but I'm going to charge

this and I'm going to charge you. I said no thanks. We're going in a different

direction than they copied that exact idea for way less probably. Yeah, I would

like some no name director. Yeah, interesting. Yeah, it's pretty, pretty

wild. I'm I really, really like the Audi livery. I know it's super simple, but

I think it looks so yeah and I can't remember who it was, but someone on

Instagram ranked all the liveries and that one was last. I was like, what the

fuck? That's my favorite. The Audi also looks cool too. When is the first race?

It's less than a month away. It's next month, but oh, is it usually when we're at

Amelia art? Is that usually this? It's going to be in Australia, but I can't

remember the exact day. So that makes it where it's on a Saturday, right? That's

how it works out because it's like a Saturday night. I think Saturday evening.

That's kind of where we watched it at Radwood. Yeah, up at that house. Oh,

one thing I'm super stoked about is like it seems like I don't know about all the

car companies, but Ferrari and I think asked Martin they both went to gloss again.

Oh, I like that too. So I saw get that match it out of here. I know you can

do like classic liveries with that too. It looks so cool. Yes. Yeah, get the

match it out of here. That's a good theme. Looks so much better. It just looks

faster too. Doesn't it like? Yeah. Yeah, no red bull. Red bull went to gloss as

well. Okay. And the lights shine off at like a night races and stuff. It's

almost to be like negligible. Like, but yeah, like if you I always like I think

of like rubbing your hand on a glossy car, right? Like your hand sort of there's

friction versus like rubbing your hand across like a matte finish. It's like

really slippery, right? But I'm sure I don't know if the air air works different

than your hands are like your hands have like oil on them and you know, like

stuff like sweat and stuff. It's a mental thing. Yeah. I also remember. I also

remember that myth busters proved that a dimpled car is more aerodynamic than a

smooth one. So that's all. Yeah. The matte finish is textured. I don't know.

It's interesting. All right. We're getting into it here. Questions. Matt

chewers says, if there was an event on the Radwood scale for fifties and sixties

cars, he says a step up a step above the boomer car meets. We already have, of

course. What pop culture or movie costumes would you see people there?

RIP Robert Duvall. I think this is Goodwood, right? So

that's earlier. That's not 50s, 60s. Well, this isn't that good guys. I think I

think Goodwood's fifties and sixties. I mean, you're right. But everyone I see

dressed up as more in like forties and fifties sixties. Oh yeah, you're right.

Fifty sixties. Dude. It's like the pleated. You get away with anything from that

era. James Bond. James Bond. James Bond's a good one.

I'm trying to think of like costume. Oh, Willy Wonka, of course. Oh, Batman,

dude. The OG Batman. Super cheesy. Oh yeah. Nice. Dude, what about,

how about Clint Eastwood? Good, the bad and the ugly. Well, there you go cowboy thing.

It's like in Groundhog Day when he comes dressed up as like as Clint Eastwood. Do

you remember that? They go to the movies. He's like, oh yeah. And he just decides to

go full West lightning. I'm thinking of like that scene, right? Like that sort of

even though that movie was in the seventies or whatever, but it was based in the fifties,

right? So like you got, right, right. American graffiti. But again, that's a,

I think that's a seventies movie. But it's fifties, right? Based in the fifties. Yeah.

What are the theme kind of like costuming movie? I mean, I'm sure we're just not

thinking of it. Humphrey Bogart style. I don't know.

That's, I don't know. Yeah. What's like, what are some iconic like?

Yeah, it's hard. Oh, space like

20,000 leagues under the sea or whatever, like a space Odyssey or something like that. Is that

a thing? I don't know. Is that seventies? I don't even know. Yeah. It's not. This isn't a very fun

exercise. I feel like there, it was so much because the eighties has so much cooler eighties

and nineties. That's so much more. Well, there was like no sci-fi. There was no,

even like comedies weren't people dressed up in weird costumes. I don't know. This is a tough one.

Matt, maybe you have something in mind. Yeah. I mean, I'm thinking like James Dean stuff,

right? Like there's got to be some, that's like pretty obvious, but it's like just kind of rebel

without a cause, right? But like I wasn't very, yeah, I guess that's the doors costume me. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, that's your straight up typical fifties car show, right? Poodle skirts and

but yeah, I'm trying to think of anything else that was in the era, like sixties. I mean, there

might be some Euro stuff that we're not aware of. Like cause there was some really cool, like

like sixties Italian police films that had like cool car chase scenes and same with like,

like British, like mob stuff from that era. Yeah. Yeah. Is that a little bit of a Hawaiian

kind of stuff coming into the psyche? Yeah. What are you rolling in that? Is that a,

or how about sixties? Gosh, sixties stuff. Is that Star Trek? Oh, hippie. So what's like a hippie

movie that was back then? Cheech and Chong. Yeah. Cheech and that's eighties, but yeah. Seventies,

eighties. Man, I don't know. This is a trigger on call in. If you have an answer, definitely

James Bond would be the coolest, right? Like cause I mean, I'm thinking what octopussy was that?

Was that that's octopussy? I'm thinking octopussy. That's the first thing he goes to. That's the

first thing I go to because it's like no. Which was the one with the with the Toyota, the 2000 GT?

I don't know. That's not octopussy. Right? Dude, if you're asking me exactly, dude, how the hell

do we know? Are you kidding me, dude? I didn't even know there was like a fourth bond guy. Like

all right. Life is swell.co. Is there any way to get some 225s to fit under an E 30 without

rubbing? Hell yeah, dude. That's what I was running. My crisp handling were tons. There's

totally possible. I will say that my front tires rubbed for like 20 miles and then it shaved

off just enough on the inside that was rubbing against the strut housing. It didn't affect the

tires at all. You know, longevity or like safety wise and everything was good after that. So that

was on lowered suspension and stock like BBS basket weave style wheels. Yeah. Yeah. I had a 225

A05 twos on there RS threes. Yeah, you can do a bunch. It helps alignment helps a lot.

That's a big one. You know, because it especially when you're trying to avoid getting on the lip

or the outer, I think on the inner is like Warren's talking about that really is offset dependent. So

alignment offset have a lot to do with this. So the other thing too is that like Warren was running

a really narrow tire, but I'm sorry, narrow wheel and obviously the wider the wheel, the more

the sidewall will get pushed out and like that could be a factor and more a factor in the rear

on the later cars. So 1988 through 92, if you will, they have a lower rear arch. So if you look at

the back rear arch, it comes down way lower than the early cars and so that's more prone to rubbing

and that's where you see a lot more rubbing on on the later cars versus the earlier cars.

So that's one thing to consider. But yeah, it's very, very much a thing, very doable. Yep,

very doable. I haven't, I don't know. Yeah, it all depends on what wheels you're running. Right.

Bobby Reed with the cars says my 60th birthday is in August. Bobby, you don't look a day over

59. I'll say that with confidence. I agree. My wife announced that we are renting houses on an

island on the Puget Sound and inviting all of our car friends for a two-day rally on the Olympic

Peninsula. We have a route and we'll pre-run it when the roads open. What advice do you have for

pre-running a rally? You know, I thought this was going to end with an invite. I'll be honest. I

know where is our say? Where's our invite dude? Tell me how to do this, but you guys are not welcome

with the fucking awesome shit we're doing. I thought we were the homies. Can you run it for us or

what? Okay. What advice do you have for pre-running a rally? Okay. First of all, how much driving

do you really want to do? Everyone can get ambitious with these fucking 300 mile days

in old cars, but when it really comes down to it, is it about the hang or is it about the drive?

Do you guys agree with this? Yes. Oh dude, I'm so with you on this. That's first thing.

And then the other thing is you probably want to drive a little more before lunch than you do

after. After lunch, you're a little sleepy. It's been a long day. Everyone just wants to get you

got up early, right? So think of a loop in the morning that's a couple hours, maybe three tops,

and then you do that being said, there is outliers, the people that will want to drive more or whatever,

but you know, for the most part, you could do optional long route if you want, or like the

more direct route back to the house. That's one thing. And then you almost want to reverse

engineer these around lunch, destination spots, regroups, et cetera,

because those are like very finite. And if you have this long ass route

into the middle of nowhere and there's nowhere to get food or gas or anything,

then that doesn't really help you. So you kind of want to like find your cool spot to have

lunch or your cool regroup or cool, whatever town. It sounds like he's got his stuff planned.

He just wants advice on pre running. Oh, okay. Well, I mean, he doesn't know the route yet,

though he could go there and be like, Oh, this route actually doesn't make sense.

Well, we have a route and we'll pre run. I mean, pre running. Okay, pre running is checking.

You really want to, you know, just checking the conditions of the roads.

There's, I think another thing is like checking that like these roads aren't,

you know, there's not driveways everywhere, like stuff like that. Be considerate about,

like be careful, like depending on how many people you have to, it's like,

if you're driving, if every road is like just house after house after house,

probably not a good road to go, you know, go on. Yep. If there's alternatives for a road,

that's where we're on remote. Yeah. I think for pre run, one thing that's really key is try to find

an average car to do it in that you think in terms of average, meaning ride height,

like all of those things, just like that you think your group will be driving because if you

have a car that's like super low and that doesn't represent the entire group or, or whatever,

or even the opposite, right? If you're in an SUV, you don't really get a sense of like,

you know, if there are surface issues or, you know, ingress, egress to driveways or wherever

you're going for these lunch spots. Like those things are, you want to, you want to have a car

that is low enough, but has, you know, that also you're comfortable in to drive around and in the

pre run and you don't necessarily need to be totally roughing it like in a, the most extreme car,

but like we used to pre run and lanes, GTI, which was perfect because it was, it was relatively

low, but you, but it was comfortable. We had AC and we could like, you know, take notes and be

chilling in there when it was quiet, but also like just enough to like as a good like baseline for

all of the cars that would be participating. Yeah. Anything and a car like that. It's like a very

capable safe car and we, we had times where like, oh, this would probably like if this car is

struggling, then like these cars with the race tires are not going to do well. Like Warren,

I did a one road and it was snowing on us and I was like, oh, this would not work. We kept

picturing Marty and Sue and their Cobra. It was like, we can't send them down this road.

I was going to say that we, in the early days, we were way more detailed with like notes on the

roads and it was too much information. It was like, watch out for this cattle. Great. And then

there's a bump over here and there's a bird shit over there and a fucking stick on the ground. Like

you want to be pretty broad with your like notes and I don't know how many people are going with

you, but that's one thing. And then yeah, rather than that, you just say on this road has some

potholes, watch out for potholes or something like at the mile marker. Exactly. Like dude,

we were getting so in the weeds. That was like Brian's thing too. Like he kind of like

pretending it was like a real rally. Like every turn was like, you know, seven left into four

right. It's like correct. Exactly. Watch out for the mailbox. But you end up as a driver,

especially if you don't have a co-driver, you can't follow the notes like that well. So you want

like a general statement about the road that's coming up that says, Hey, like this is really

serious. You know, don't push too hard or like watch out for gravel, you know, halfway down

or something like that. Yeah. I think that that's a key, right? If you're pointing out everything,

then nothing's important. But if you're pointing out the really important things,

then that's, you know, you're going to make note of that. Yep. Yep.

Um, all right. Michelin PS five star restaurant, whatever that is. Uh, he says,

do you think performance SUV or crossovers, for example, the kind McCann GTS X three MX

five M or GMC Typhoon, et cetera, have a place on road rallies or not,

which I think he's, he's referencing like rallies like ours. Uh, yes, they've appeared on our rallies.

Um, are they our favorite cars and want a bunch of them? No, but will we deny somebody who really

wants to come? And that's what they have like an X five M, which is exactly what's appeared on our

rallies. Yeah. Or X three M X three M. Yeah. So we will allow it on definitely not a classic,

but if a typhoon wanted to come on the classic hell, yeah, hell yeah. But that's a different

story. Have fun on that. I don't know. That's like the best car for a rally though. But yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But, um, it would look amazing out there. Um, yeah, it'd be great.

LM002. Yes. Get out there. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's a, a lot of it is, is going back to that

sense of occasion and experience, right? And it's like, we want you to have the best experience,

but like if you're in a car that's super modern, that is extremely capable and you know, quite

frankly detached, it's not the same experience as like, it's not as involving, right? And so

like it's a different thing. Um, and you know, but yeah, and quite frankly, I'm pretty sure that

both of the X five M's and maybe an X three M that have been on were because their other car broke

and or was not available or something, right? So it was a replacement and it wasn't their first

choice, but you know, they still had a good time. It's just, you know, you ultimately bite, you

become like a de facto support vehicle because you're unlikely to break down. You have a lot of

space to carry shit if need be and you can do all that sort of stuff, right? So, um, it's just

one thing to consider. But you know what's funny that, that this came up is I just saw a super

clean, um, first, so the first generation facelifted Kyan's, you know, like I really don't like the

first ones. I think they're hideous, but the facelifted ones are pretty nice. Like they actually

have the GTS is have a cool body kit. The headlights are more kind of modernized and there

was one in like, um, I've never seen this color. It was like an olive metallic. It was like a pale

green metallic. Yeah. There's a, there's one at B line. It's a six cylinder manual.

Very cool. Yeah. In that color. That's cool. Yeah. And that's, you know, I mean,

still very modern, but the manual you add that, you know, you're adding a little bit more, but

absolutely. Or like if it had some safari-esque treatment to it, you know, that that's cool.

Yeah. Very cool. But I still would like strongly encourage them because most of these people have

a 9-11 and they're like, well, it's, uh, it's going to be rainy or like the 9-11 doesn't have

air conditioning. You're like, come on. What's your guys, what's the least engaging car you

guys have driven on a rally? Well, I drove that the M five competition, but it was bad ass. I mean,

you know, I mean, it was super fun. It was easy on the like normal roads. It was easy, right?

You're one hand driving, not thinking much about it, but it had the same power at sea level as it

did at 8,000 feet because of the turbos and it just ripped on those long sweeping roads that we had

like over the Sierra and back. Yeah. So that made it really cool. Um, downside is that it's not my

car. And so I felt like constantly protective of it. Like I don't, I'm not going to push it too

hard, right? So that kind of hurts your like rally experience a little bit. Yeah. And I'm

guessing for you, for you land, it's probably the GTI borrowed. Oh, it's definitely a GTI. And

that, you know, that gets back to like, that's also a pretty entertaining little hatch compared

to an SUV. Right. And, uh, I was pretty, like pretty bored. I would say a lot of the time. Yeah.

Where on, on roads where I would, I know it'd be so fun in my 944, my 9-11, like, um, comfortable,

was just kind of a little bit like too comfortable, too quiet, too easy to like, to like, uh, and

just, you know, front wheel drive is so confidence inspiring and just kind of like not twitchy and

you know, just kind of does its thing. Yeah. Yeah. I could definitely see that. How about you, Art?

Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking, um, I think the, the Corvette was the most modern thing I drove that,

that ground sport, but it was a manual rear wheel drive, like high horsepower V8. It was

pretty fun. Yeah. And those are kind of hairy too. So yeah, it was a blast. I actually had a really

a good time in it, but, um, yeah, that would, but even then that wasn't like the most detached,

right? Cause it was still a pretty engaging car. It was a manual too, right? Was that? Yeah. It was

a manual. Yeah. Manual. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's a little different than an X, X3M or very

different. Yeah. And it was also convertible. So like that's also, you got some sense of occasion

there, right? Top-down motoring is always fun. Yeah. That's, that's a real sports car. Like the,

the M five is capable, but it's an automatic and super plush. So big, big. So you lose like all

of that, like a lot of the tactileness. It's, it's definitely a hammer. I'm kind of going through

the list of all of my cars that I've driven. I mean, and they were all pretty, pretty fun. I mean,

you know, it's kind of funny. We just talked about this recently, but it might have been the NSX.

I mean, my NSX, I think that would have been the most comfortable, like most, like less

least drama, right? Like, like pretty relatively easy. And with that gearing, it's just not very

like manic or, you know, it's not like, yeah, has long legs. Yeah. It definitely on some of the

wide open sections. It can be really fun, right? Because it's like very capable in that sense,

but like the tight twisty stuff is like, yeah, it's, it's tricky. You like the steering in the

NSX. I hate the steering. Oh, really? I loved it. I thought it was like dead kind of feeling.

I didn't drive it a lot, but the times I did, it was, yeah, no, I didn't. Yeah, the steering was

fine, except that it, because the first cars were unassisted. So like when you're like just

initially getting going, it was very heavy, but once you get moving, it's fine. And just that,

that driving position and where the wheels are, the front wheels are in relation to the view

outs. It's just killer. Yeah. There's definitely a lot going for it from a driving experience,

but it's, I'd say like compared to everything else, right? Because everything else would have

been more exciting, right? Like, yeah, compared to that. Ben Roget says, what's the farthest you

drive for killer tacos? It's all relative, dude. I'm trying to say, would I drive to Watsonville

just for lunch? Damn, that's not how far at all. That's what I'm saying. I mean, that's also,

you're also hitting like, you're hitting 20 taco shops on the way there. Like what if you live

somewhere where there's like nothing, right? Then how far would you drive? Right? It's a destination,

right? By the way, a new taco shop in Capitola Lane. You got to try. What is it? It's by Gales.

It's called like San Marcos or something. It's so good, dude. That's way too far worn.

Adam, dude. Ten minutes from his handmade corn tortillas. I had them, dude. They're good.

That's awesome. Yeah. Heidi brought them home a couple weeks ago. Oh, to go tacos.

That's a dicey. That's dicey. I'm glad they were good though. That's good. It was good,

dude. That's really good. Yeah. Okay. So you live in a food desert and you want to get good

tacos. The food desert is called Lodi and how far would you drive? I've heard Lodi has good

taco truck actually. I bet there's good tacos in the valley. Other sources than Ben, like from

you got to like, you got to really try all of them. You can't just, you know, going up.

I've done this, but I'm going to insert like this is the same. It's same for same, but I've

literally gone to LA for ramen because there's no good ramen in Santa Barbara and that into that

ramen spot is an hour and a half. And again, that's the nation, right? You know that Saturday,

it's going to be a ramen day. But did you also go to, you know,

Hmart and you also went to Pottery Barn and Bed Bath and Beyond made it beyond is no longer. I'm

sorry. This is a long time ago though. Yeah. If you're just hitting up lunch, just going to tacos,

how far? I don't know. I could see doing an hour each way. Well, it depends too. What if it is a

rad drive? What is the killer drive? That's my Ohai Friday thing where I go for, I go to that one

little cafe, you know, early in the morning and it's, it's technically 45 minutes for my house,

you know, so yeah, I mean, I go to, I drive to Alice's for lunch. Alice's isn't anything

of right home. That's the drive, the drive is part of the experience. That's what I'm saying.

I guess I do like that taco shop in Pescadero and you know, I don't, I would go there just for that,

like to make a run of it, but I have, but that's a beautiful drive off the coast and I have equal

spots here. So I don't know. I'm, tacos are tough. That's a tough one, but I like art. You're

saying ramen, like we have no good ramen and Santa Cruz. I could definitely see driving an hour each

way. Right. So I think you got to have to have that. Yeah. Cause it's hard for us to see through

like we have, we all have really good, really good tacos within minutes, right? So, but yeah,

think of that one thing that isn't around like Santa Barbara, not great for fire either. There's

only one spot that's okay. Had some yesterday. So good. All right. Last question. Pedal,

pedal, pedal says, what's an underappreciated modern car that will be appreciated in 20 to

30 years? He says, I'll go first Ford flex. Damn is Zuzu axiom. Oh nice. Those are really funky.

They're cool. Hyundai Santa Cruz. I could see that for sure dude. In 30 years,

they'd only sold them for like three years. They didn't sell very many of them.

They're very funky, weird car that should not have existed. Yeah. And I think they're,

they are kind of cool. I think they're cool. Yeah. Ford flex is a pretty good one dude. I like that.

I like Ford flexes. I've driven them there. They actually drive. I drive with you. You,

I got car. It's the one of the only cars I've ever been. Yeah. Well, it's way the fuck back

there. Yeah. Art had to, you know, he was probably shaving off a few minutes because

we were late dude. Yeah. So you were there. It was when we got at the airport dude. I

forget where we were Detroit Austin Austin. Okay. Yeah. That was the bed bug fiasco, which will

I have pictures of that still memoirs. I'm trying to think here and this is this is in

the last few years. I imagine since you guys are underappreciated to that's a key, right?

Yeah. Underappreciated modern car. How about the Toyota IQ? Whoa.

It just one of these cars that yeah, a smart car thing. I think that would be a crazy car to see

for 30 years. How about like the Fiat Miata? The Fiatta

and those are lame. I mean, but they're a turbo four cylinder convertible like sports car. Yeah,

I don't know. They're barely sold any. They're going to be super rare. That'll be one of those

like Mercury Capri convertible things that oh right the XR something. Oh yeah. Yeah.

Pop up from time to time.

Cars like the new the current Toyota crown are so weird and they didn't they don't sell. I never

see another. I never see the wagons. Yeah. Oh yeah. No, no, no, not the signia, but the regular,

the sedans to all the sedans weird. Yeah. I don't know why the weird car make any sense. That could

be a thing. It's just like whoa. What was going on there? Yeah. I mean there's also like

because like you have like the, the N line, right? Of like the little Hyundai N lines,

both the sedan and the hatchback and they're not under appreciated though. Yeah. They're

appreciated by like enthusiasts and journalists, but like I never see them and I think they didn't

sell very well because it was them. Like it was like their first attempt to get out there as a

performance brand, right? And like it's, you know, the early adopt adoption isn't very high

because of the brand cashier lack of, but yeah, I feel like those, I mean, they're objectively

good cars, but they just don't have as much of a following as I would have guessed that might be one.

Trying to think like any of the Genesis stuff too. Oh yeah. Genesis are so good. I know. And

they're just very rare and kind of who knows if that brand will exist. I don't know. That could

be one like the, that Genesis sedan that had the good motor and I forget what it was called,

which in the 70. Yeah. The G 70. How about a Cybertruck? Is that going to be like the coolest

thing over in 20 years? Oh yeah. No one. It's so underrated. No one. No, but I mean they kind of

are no one really like most people don't like them. I think it'll always go down as this like

stupid car, which I think at some point it'll be even more of a novelty like in 20 years or

now when it's like, yeah, you're like, oh my God, look at this thing. Dude, did that thing

Cybertruck Cybertruck. Yeah, I think it'll have to be like converted to some, you know, diesel

engine. Yeah, just like remove the body and keep all the like the mechanic dude. I think that

there's also an opportunity here for, I don't know if you guys agree with this, but like

have the Focus RS like line and like Fiesta STs, have they, or whatever the fuck they are,

have they like kind of vanished into oblivion now? Like they're, they do have a small following,

but like they don't seem to be like, is it just because they're rare? They're gone.

I think they were driven hard and put away wet and they all are old now and people,

I don't know. I don't know where they are. I used to see them all every day

and now I can't remember the last one we saw like a meat or anything. It's just like, right?

I want to say they have to have some like reliability issues or something because like

you're right. They're just, they just don't, they aren't anywhere. They vanished, right? And I feel

like, but if you find one, let's say 30 years everywhere, we like, you know, yeah, like I imagine

like 30 years from now that you find one and you upgrade whatever is like shitty on it. Like,

I think it's a pretty rad package, right? Like I'm for both of them for the, whether it be an

STRS or just the, or the fiesta. I have a controversial take. You ready?

Cue up the siren or whatever we have for these types of things. The basically like all of these

horrible buck tooth BMWs and not the M three, because those are always going to be sort of

coveted by some weirdos, but these other like the seven series that came out like five years ago

is so ugly. It's like beyond. You can't even like figure it out and those are the kind of cars

where in 30 years you're like, oh my God, I remember that because eventually they'll go away

from this. I think it'll go like so far the other way where it's like very organic, sleek, not this

like chiseled exteriors. That's my, my 30 year prediction. Huh? Well, I'm thinking, I mean,

would you say the same for a bangle, but seven series right now? Like is that that? Like I don't

really see that if I see one. If I saw a really clean bangle, but you're you're disturbed. I

wouldn't want it, but I would go holy crap. How's that thing survived? Like what a weird car? I can't

believe they made that sought after though. No, maybe I don't know. I don't know. It'll also

be such a hard thing to keep running like the bangle, but right now, you know, like those

bangle seven series are right now where they're just new electric ones will be impossible. You're

right. And all the, all the materials, like when you look at those cars, like the new five series,

I don't really have a problem with some of the design language, but the materials they use,

all this like really cheap piano black plastic and it all like looks so flimsy and cheap up close.

Do you see five series around the new ones? There's like three of them in the neighborhood and

and two of them have do school pickup. So I see it on a regular basis. So I just don't see them

and I think they're very gross. They're gross, but not as gross as the like the three and all

the electric seven is the seven's hideous. It's really bad. It's like all squared off and just

no style and the headlights are gone. Like they've like the whole face of the car is super whack.

Yeah. It's all tiny, weird. Yeah. It's a really strange car and I know I never see those either.

I mean, like previous gens, I feel like you'd see seven series all over the place. I know.

I know that's, that's kind of it where it's like, this will be one of those cars that

in 30, 20, 30 years, you'd be like, Whoa, I never saw those at the time and here's one. Like

it's kind of wild, but yeah, we did get a bonus question here from John Rye.

If you suddenly became extraordinarily wealthy, would you keep your current car and buy more cars

to go along with it or start from scratch with all new stuff? All right, you'd probably keep yours.

And why not? The warehouse has a little spot for the E30. Oh yeah. No, I would, I would want to

restore it cosmetically at that point. Like I would want to go do full glass out, like, you know,

respray on it and make it perfect. But yeah, and then just keep it like, you know, fine tuning

ITBs, different transmission, probably with different custom gear set.

Do you think you would probably replace the motor with something even more wild?

Well, I think you just iterate on this. I think there's a lot more potential on this still,

like you can go more aggressive still with it. One thing that I feel like I would want to do that

is easy, but like again, just going kind of that singer treatment is I would want to go leather,

wrap dash leather, like leather door panels that match my interior. That's not that far, you know,

that and really just don't do the dash dude. It's going to pull. It's only it's going to

look like well only. Well, I'll have you do it. So you do it right and then we'll do that

no matter what it. Yeah, it's only air conditioned. That's why I sold my Boxster dude.

Yeah, it's only in the sun, like once a once a month and otherwise it's in this

just didn't condition it man. You need to put a yeah you wipe it all down every day.

I would keep the van again for sure, but the M3 I'd probably yeah, I'd start over with that one

and and add a bunch of stuff, but the van I would do the same thing with the yard. I would go full,

you know, restoration and make it killer. Yeah, I think I'd keep the 911. I've probably just

keep it as my rally car. I think it's a pretty good like all rounder for rally car and then

just add to the collection. Keep it black. Sure. Dang, why not dude says why not you're

right. You're right. Photographs are yeah. I'll keep it though. I was put in the corner or

something. Yeah, I just let it wrap it. It'll be it'll be that C for us. Why would I sell it at

that point? I know I know if you have my warehouse is huge dude. My my garage on like my subterranean

garage under my house is giant. Yeah, that's the way I see it right because ultimately like

when you sell a car, it's like you're either completely 100 percent over it, which is fine

can happen or like you need the space and or the money and like in these in this instance,

like, you know, if these we all like these cars, we have room and we don't need the money. So

yeah, might as well just keep it around and keep iterating and fine tuning it. Yeah. Oh,

I talked to you guys at a CBR motors about it, but I did. I have project car updates dude.

Oh, yeah, let's I replaced a little. Oh, yeah, project car update. I've repenced a mere switch

knob. It's $12 I think and that was very satisfying because the old one was falling off

and then I replaced the little light cover for the e-brake and the breakware pad wear sensors

because that was correct. Like half of it only half of it was there. So you had like the

you know, you could see the light behind it and everything. It was like, so I replaced that

dude. It was a it was a altogether. I'd say a 30 second job, but so satisfying. Like how about

time versus satisfaction, the most satisfying job in the world. If you look at it that way,

yeah, it was awesome and now it's like and I think like my mindset is like every time you

get in the car, I look down that that piece is missing. Like I don't know when it happened. It

just like fell off one day and I don't even know where the piece is, but you see that and then

you go to adjust the mirror and the thing falls off in your hand and you're like,

like it's like if I just keep, if you let that stuff perpetuate it, like then you have like 30

things wrong with the car and you're kind of, you know, it's like it's nice to stay up on that.

Especially when it's available for, you know, $12 or whatever it is. Like those are nice.

That's a good thing about Porsche, right? Like it was tough for the mighty, mighty max, you know,

that just didn't really exist for the mighty max. So that's why ultimately I sold it. Well,

gave it away basically. So it's out there somewhere. Actually, I take that back on the leather dash.

What if I went Alcantara Lane? Oh yeah, that probably better and that's better. It doesn't

stretch. It's not natural. It's not going to like right. It's a synthetic material. Also,

it's great for, because I have an Alcantara dash mat right now or Pat or whatever. And it's great

because it's not, you know, no glare with that. You got to go mouse fur. We all know this. You

don't go out until you go mouse. Yeah. Mouse fur is rad, dude. Have a spray. Flocked. Flock it,

dude. Flocked, bro. You can flock it yourself. I can't watch videos, dude. Go fuck yourself,

bro. Flock that shit, dude. It's super cheap at the Sebrite hang. There was a very unusual car.

It was a Maserati 430. Oh yeah. It's essentially like a five series competitor. I guess it would

have been. It's a four door, huh? Four door sedan with like very little Maserati to it. It's high

upright sedan. This is the nicest one in the world. And I was a J-land. But it kind of looked like a

it's a bi turbo with four doors, right? Like a bi turbo. Yeah, exactly. But it doesn't have like

any real flair to it other than like the grill is Maserati. And if you like cover the grill,

you would, it would be hard to tell what kind of car it's like a bird tone. It probably is

buried Tony design too, but it's like a bird Tony Volvo, like the Volvo 780. It's more Volvo.

Exactly. It's got a really squared off trunk. No flair to it. No fender flares. No, like

anyways, that thing, it was probably the nicest one in the world. We talked to, I was with J-lam

and we talked to the guy for a while and the story was funny. Like he bought it knowing nothing.

He's an Alfa or Mayo guy, but he ended up loving this car and found it on bring a trailer.

It like had bounced back on bring a trailer. Like someone bought it and then listed it again.

I think it was $12,000 for the nicest one in the world. And this thing was flawless.

Cool car, but it did. It had a blue suede dash,

like stitched alternating color. Like it was like a tan very gray and then a blue dash on the main

part, which was flawless. Perfect. Damn, but I would check this thing out. It was cool. It was

a weird ass car, like really strange, but he was stoked and did not. He seemed more of like a

surfer kind of like whatever guy to the point where you kind of remind me of our buddy beamer

lover and we just like, yeah, I'm like, I got a Milano and a GTV six, but this thing popped up

and I was like, yeah, I guess I'll get it. And then he's like, yeah, he's like, you know what

I'm like, he's like Pete that Pete Davidson character. He's like, that's cool. Yeah. That's

cool. Right. I like it. Sounds good. Yeah. I love that one. He was trying to explain like the car

is good. It drives great, but like I just really had trouble passing smog. Jay and I were like,

you don't say imagine that. Oh dude. I got my car smog last week. That's right. I saw the pic

easy dude. How much did you have to bribe him? Nothing dude. Hundred bucks. It's all good. Sweet.

That's a good feeling. Yeah. Did you have any trepidation as you dropped it off? I mean,

I think you always do, right? Well, I always do now. She's and of course I made the appointment

to start raining and I was like, like it's not going to pass in the rain, but no, my car was clean.

So I was like, I got a good drive, but and I took it for a drive just to get hot. You know,

I didn't want to like, I wanted to get it hot and stuff, but then they have to test it hot.

Like that's the one thing you get a hot and then they just say, oh, we'll get to it in half an hour.

And they put it on quick. Good. Or it seemed like, I mean, because I got the car back,

they called me within 30 minutes. So of me dropping it off. Nice. Pick it up. Yeah. But I

just, I drove it up Branson 40 and did that whole thing. Again, past super easy. It was great.

And the, you know, the numbers look good. Dude, that's a, that's great. And are you running

like a, just a stock cat? Stock cat. Yeah. Sweet. It's all stock. Yeah. That's great. That's great.

I mean, that's been my experience with the van again. It's just, yeah, old car, but still,

still all good. Yeah. The Maserati and then that Shirakos super rat. Dude, I didn't get a good

look at that thing. That's amazing. I left right before, I think right as I was pulling in.

There was a good hang. What do you think about this lane? If we do this again,

putting the band over in the Seabright social parking lot to draw, I know

that could be the call, dude, because I know I like where you have line of sight down the

driver to the back there. No, I like it. I've been trying to figure out a way to like draw

people over there because I do the cool thing is that it is cool to use the days parking lot

because it's so exposed to like the neighborhood. I love that. But I think using both and like

utilizing more of the Seabright social parking lot because it is big and it has tons of spots in

the back and right now Seabright social is closed. So you have it to yourself and it's like way like

more of a chill hang and the Java junction owners like super into it too. So he was at the show

and he came up to me and was like, oh, it's so awesome. So stoked on it. He actually has a Rolls

Royce Corniche, I think down at his Palm Springs house, he said, which he's been had forever.

And he drives when he's down there, like repainted and stuff like whatever. And then he drives that

R 129 or is it R 129 cab? You know the R 129 that's always the gold one. So yeah. And then,

but I don't know the support of that whole neighborhood. Like they're all super into it.

It's rad. I know even like the days market guy, which doesn't come off as a car guy at all. He

was like very much taking pictures and then someone parked and he's like, oh, don't don't park here

for a long time. Okay. Like yeah, he was telling us he saw kick anyone out the parks here. We're

like, okay, we want to like give you business. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like, it's fine.

But I did ask him, I asked the other, the dude that works there when I went back, you know,

at the end of the day, I went in there and I asked the guy that works there and I'm like,

how is it? Did it like, you know, you guys have a lot of business. He's like, oh yeah,

tons of business. Oh, good. So and then I noticed like Betty burger out of line out the door.

The deli was super popular. Yeah. I know it's good. Well, that was Tramonte people were doing

like the Tramonte, like hang out on the patio, grab a beer kind of thing.

Nice. Yeah. Cool. Well, that was fun. We have like yeah ways to tweak it. That's good. You guys

ready for trivia? Let's go always. Before we get to trivia, Radwood.com for Amelia and North

Carolina. Come on out. Actually real quick because it's relevant. I just got a slack message

right now. I'm really sorry for those that we're looking forward to checking out the Stutz Black

Hawk Stutz Stutz Stutz that was going to be at the marketplace booth on our field. The owner

had an issue and he's asking if he can bring his mercury Durango instead. What is that? That's the

it's like a Fairmont El Camino. Remember? Yeah, God. Yeah. Those are rad. We had one at NorCal

the blue one. Yeah, and that Durango. They're kind of cool, dude. They're like a smaller

ranchero or something. I guess yeah. Yeah. I guess it's like a Fox body underneath, but it's a

it's a little truck, you know, a little pickup. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh goodness. Yeah, there's a

I'm looking at one right now. It's a 79 with graphics. It actually kind of looks like a brat.

The graphics do. I mean, that's funny. Okay. Well, yeah, anyone who was really anticipating

that Stutz dude. I'm sorry. So sorry, but super rad, mercury Durango now. Yeah, I can't tell you

the time I saw one last. I mean, I know it was Radwood for yeah 2019 maybe or 2018, 17 might have

been second or third job. All right. This is a little old news, but you know, I don't know if

you guys know this Honda announced that they're now taking back one of their Hondas to retrofit

and upgrade. It's like options and the line. So if you had like a base model, they will now take

a model back and then retrofit it and upgrade it. What model is it? This is so un Honda to me. This

is like something like Porsche would do for for hurry would do, right? I mean, or like some really

shitty company that like yeah. Well, we just saw this with Bugatti, right? They're doing it with

the Veyron. So they that's right. Updating Veyrons. Is it that idea like up? Like is it externally

too or just componentry both? Oh, so this is like a paid thing. It's not a take a full. Yeah,

yeah. You can send it back to Honda and they will upgrade it NSX new NSX. Is that a good guess?

But no, or good guess. We're going Honda Honda. That's a good guess, but no, not an NSX

hearts thinking. He's perplexed. He's wondering. He's thinking. I want to say like a Honda element

for some reason. Whoa, like, like, you know, you can do some kind of. Yeah, yeah,

like they're doing that thing. They're doing that camper now that like a trailer camper that

they showed at CES or something. That would be an interesting move, but no,

it's so easy to read. I mean, I feel like from a, because it's like kind of timeless, right?

Like I can imagine like updating the front end, like modern headlights, right? And they've got

a cult following. So you could see like a restoration slash like modernization of it.

No, this is the Honda jet. Oh, okay. What the heck? All right. That makes sense, dude.

Gotcha. Honda jet is now being offered with an S package retrofit for its early production

Honda jets. It offers better handling, crosswind stability and 300 pounds more takeoff weight.

Uh, no prices were listed, but new Honda jet elite S or S twos

start at about $5 million used models can be found from a 2.5 to 3.5 if you have to ask. So

so it looks like the late nineties was the first of them. So that's what we're talking about.

Yeah. So they just made a lot of these jets too. You can get like stole packages and

upgraded jets and, you know, certain de-icing equipment and stuff retrofitted, of course,

but this is from Honda, which is still weird. Honda makes a jet. That is weird. We see them

at motor looks because it's the same guy that comes from Honda and displays this Honda jet.

So they're still trying to sell, they still sell them. And it says that they've only made

or like delivered 259 by the end of 2024, 259 Honda jets total. Where, where do they make them?

It says in Greensboro. Oh, okay. North or South Carolina or something. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

how many citations are they selling? Because that's the direct competitor, right?

Right. The smaller citation. Yeah. But yeah, I think I don't know. I mean, they also make

formula one engines. I mean, they do kind of like some weird stuff, right? By the way,

I searched how many citations were sold in Google. I did not put a year and the Chevrolet

citation sold X amount of units in the first year. That's a beauty. It's one of the worst

cars ever made, right? It's up there. Yeah. Like Cadillac, Simran, right? What you got first

year Chevrolet citation. I'm guessing that was probably like in the early eighties, right? Yeah.

Probably more than you'd think. Probably 200, 150,000. Whoa. I'll say 85,000.

Dang. You guys don't, don't believe in the Chevrolet citation, 811,540 and in one year,

one year, first year, 1980 had to be like, I bet 90% were rental cars. There's just no way

1980. No, dude. It was all them Detroit Midwest folks, man. They wanted that good fuel economy

X go and give it to you. All right. That's that's it for trivia. That's all I got.

Well, it's a pod. Thanks for listening. I want to hunt a jet. Do you? They're pretty sweet. Yeah,

they're really small and they can like very like, that's the cool thing about them too is like,

you can land them like anywhere, quote unquote, right? Like short, like you don't need a big

runway and they're pretty efficient. They're fast enough. My only question is, is there a bathroom?

Because these poopy zone, because it has to be right. Some of these small like

cirrus and stuff. No, no poop. I love, I like me a king air too. And I think those have a small

bathroom. Yeah, you need, you need something to like just in case because that's their whole

thing is you can go these long distances, but if you don't have a poop room, yeah, you need a

bathroom. They have to have a bathroom. They have to have a little bathroom. Yeah, a little boom,

boom room. Yeah, boom, boom room. They do. I see it right now. I'm looking at it. It's funny at

motor likes. I never go into the planes because usually there's a line and I also feel like it's

sort of like I'm working. So I'm not gonna be like, let me check this thing out real quick.

All right, this podcast. Thank you guys. We'll see you next time. All right, later. Okay, bye-bye.

Seabright Motors, Abandoned Porsche, and F1 2026 - DWA! Podcast Ep. #923

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